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d442ea  No.823739

I've been looking for a non-denominational, or basically any, Christian Church in my city. There's absolutely none, it's dominated by either Catholics, Mormons, or Adventists.

All the Christian Churches I've looked for have horrible music and rock bands instead of hymns, and are a mix of evangelical/pentecostal singing and praise. It's absolutely terrible to the point that I'd rather be a Catholic despite of believing exclusively in the Bible.

I have no idea what to do and I'm completely empty spiritually.

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5209c6  No.823740

start your own congregation

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fc4cbc  No.823742

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>>823739

Begome Catholic

Non-denom churches are unbiblical and makes no sense historically.

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333848  No.823743

Begome Traditional Anglican (ACNA)

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a97246  No.823750

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>>823739

You could always join the one true church that was founded by Jesus himself on Saint Peter and not a on a book with God on it's throne rather than a pope.

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fa4506  No.823754

>>823739

The solas are entirely unjustifiable in light of Church history and tradition. That said I forget what it's like being a normie Catholic without a TLM to go to, making the distinction between the churches blurred.

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64f7a6  No.823756

If you are strictly biblical, you wouldnt be strictly biblical, as the bible not only doesnt support sola scriptura, but instead explicitly supports tradition

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333848  No.823760

>>823754

sola gratia is good

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2bb581  No.823761

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>>823739

Have you looked into arguments against believing in the Bible exclusively? Or at least consider the consequences of Sola Scriptura with any one having the ability to reinterpret a verse a different way 100s of years down the line and start a new denom? Also, even scripture verses that support tradition and oral tradition passed down by the Apostles and their disciples?

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10ce56  No.823782

>>823756

Can I get some verses that suggest this?

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2bb581  No.823787

>>823782

1 Cor.11:1-2

Be ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ. Now I praise you, brethren, that ye remember me in all things, and keep the ordinances, as I delivered them to you.

1 Thess. 2:13

For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.

2Thess.2:15

Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

2Tim.2:2

And the things that thou hast heard of me among many witnesses, the same commit thou to faithful men, who shall be able to teach others also.

2 Thess. 3:14

“If any one refuses to obey what we say in this letter, note that man, and have nothing to do with him, that he may be ashamed”

Rom. 16:17

“Take note of those who create dissensions and difficulties, in opposition to the doctrine which you have been taught; avoid them”

The Bible says in 2 Tim. 3:17 that the man of God is "perfect, furnished to every good work." As we noted above, this verse means only that the man of God is fully supplied with Scripture; it is not a guarantee that he automatically knows how to interpret it properly. This verse at most argues only for the material sufficiency of Scripture, a position which is held by some Catholic thinkers today.

"Material sufficiency" would mean that the Bible in some way contains all the truths that are necessary for the believer to know; in other words, the "materials" would thus be all present or at least implied. "Formal sufficiency," on the other hand, would mean that the Bible would not only contain all the truths that are necessary, but that it would also present those truths in a perfectly clear and complete and readily understandable fashion. In other words, these truths would be in a useable form," and consequently there would be no need for Sacred Tradition to clarify and complete them or for an infallible teaching authority to interpret them correctly or "rightly divide" God’s word.

(sources)

https://www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/oral-tradition-in-the-new-testament

http://catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/protestantism/sola.htm

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fc5076  No.823788

>believing exclusively in the Bible

Maybe you should try to be like the first christians instead of folowing the sola scriptura nonsense.

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747520  No.823831

Hi OP, Prot here. Let’s look at your options, which seem to be either:

(Non denom)

- Extremely worldly Christianity

- A 5-15 minute reading and sermon on why you should give money to the church, every week

- music with theologically flawed doctorine, may or may not have produced saints

- doctrrine based on whatever the pastor “feels” about a verse

- No pope, but extremely worldly pastor and Mia Fields being held up as the same royal esteem as the pope

(Catholic)

- traditional Christianity

- music with acurate doctrine, hyms that have produced thousand of saints

- a 5-15 minute reading from one of the gospel books, every week

- a sermon done ovee the oversight of Bishops/ a large body, which may indicate some biblicly inaccurate teachings (mariology/intercession) that you already know to a oid

- a pope that most of your church doesn’t like or listen to

(Mornon)

- Christ denying heresy

It looks like Carholicism is your best bet. Don’t worry about the rediculous cannons that were imposed - most Catholics don’t even follow then

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cae121  No.823857

>>823788 (checked)

This

The Bible didn't even exist back when the Apostles were preaching the Gospel. OP, do you really think God wouldn't want His people to be unified under one banner led by one man on earth? You have to remember that Christianity is just an extension of Old Testament Israel. Israel needed Moses and his successors just like how we need St. Peter and his successors today.

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d2aca4  No.823867

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>>823739

If you are a protestant who wants decent liturgy, look into anglicanism or lutheranism.

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78eb86  No.824013

>Christ Himself appears at these modernist rock n roll masses for the sake of His Church and His Flock

>ops too good for this

sheesh!

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6da548  No.824018

>>823739

>No Christian Churches

>Only Catholic

We really do live in a society.

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64f7a6  No.824020

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>>824018

This. I honestly cant believe how brainwashed these protestants are that they see pentecostals as somehow more worthy of being called christian than one of the 2 churches who has a legitimate claim to being founded by Iesus himself

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d927b4  No.824031

>>823739

Non-denom churches are all evangelical/pentecostal, dude. Unless you have a different understanding of non-denominational.

If you want protestantism with tradition, you can go to a lutheran, anglican, methodist church. If you want traditional without a liturgy then probably reformed/presbyterian churches. But all of these essentially carry a denominational bias with them. The loosest is probably Anglican. Anglican beliefs are hard to really pin down. They can go from low church reformed to the point of appearing more traditional than most Catholic churches these days.

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15e1d2  No.824459

>>823743

Can women become priest? Birth control a sin?

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945686  No.824588

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What is a "non denom"-church? It sounds like some kind of turbo-protestant "build-your-own-church" heresy. Is it?

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5b6899  No.824604

>>824588

That's exactly what it is. They're just baptists who dont believe in having church structure

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1e2b8f  No.824975

Convert to Catholicism op

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9047ee  No.824994

>>823742

>Non denom churches are unbiblical

>Literally follows a religion is mostly man made

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352b0c  No.825003

>>824994

>t. Follows a church that was made from the traditions of the fornicator, Luther, and not the apostles.

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2b0851  No.825020

>>823739

>Protestant

>Posts on /catholic/asking about advice on church choosing

>Gets pro-Catholic answers

Unless you're doing some sort of crypto troll/bait, what were you honestly expecting?

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