601c47 No.823029
Why don’t KJV-only Fundementalist Baptists read the 7 Inter-Testament (Tobit, Judith, etc) books or the Esther/Daniel additions? They were included in the original King James and Martin Luther bible.
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9cb0d3 No.823030
Baptists and all protestants do not post here. They were all driven out.
Every poster identifying himself as a protestant is false-flagging.
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df75fd No.823031
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ed527b No.823057
>>823029
I'm a Protestant and I think you're right OP, they should be included in the Bible. I find the Book of Wisdom to be just as beautifully written as the Book of Proverbs, for example.
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601c47 No.823110
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601c47 No.823111
>>823057
Agree - I found Ben Sira especially profitable, 2 Maccabees most interesting
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bb7398 No.823956
>>823029
i just read Tobit last Sabbath. Dude, what a great book! So entertaining and insightful. Definitely is biblical canon, it correlates with other parts of Bible.
It has prophecies about Christ, that's why Masoretic Text kikes didn't include it in their satanic perverse kike bible, which heretic Luther later copied.
Septuagint is the CHAD Old Testament Bible: https://youtu.be/wczieIcwRys
"The Book of Tobit is a love story. A father sends his only son into the
world so that he may find a bride, save her, and bring her back rejoicing to his parents.
The same story is told by the Lord in John 3:16.
From the beginning, God has been working in history to bring man out of the darkness of
sin and death and into the glorious light of Christ. This is the story of salvation, and the Book
of Tobit is an icon of that story. Within Tobit's narrative lies a shadowy outline of God
working in history from the beginning to the end of the age, as He makes preparation for the
uniting of man and all creation to God in Christ."
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212af1 No.824012
The "extra" books all have theological implications that they detest.
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9cc191 No.824055
>>823956
Luther actually had all of those books in his bible, just in a different order. Idk who was the one who actually took them out, it was in the early KJV
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674d22 No.824056
>>824012
Like what? For clarity, I was raised Church of God, and none of my churches ever seemed to be the watered-down strawman I see on here a lot; but, I ignored much of the education of the bible itself, so I cannot validate it so readily.
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bb7398 No.824097
>>823956
>>824055
I meant that Luther trusted anti-christ Masoretic Text over Septuigent (which includes the "apocrypha"), which is what Apostles and Jesus quoted from.
>"Luther included the deuterocanonical books in his translation of the German Bible, but he did relocate them to after the Old Testament, calling them "Apocrypha, that are books which are not considered equal to the Holy Scriptures, but are useful and good to read." He also considered the relocation of the Book of Esther from the canon to the Apocrypha, because without the deuterocanonical additions to the Book of Esther, the text of Esther never mentions God."
>"Luther made an attempt to remove the books of Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelation from the canon (notably, he perceived them to go against certain Protestant doctrines such as sola gratia and sola fide) but his followers did not generally accept Luther's personal judgment in this matter. However, these books are ordered last in the German-language Luther Bible to this day."
Wow, imagine being such a heretic as to want to remove James and Revelation.
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f3c01c No.824102
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>823029
This is what KJV-only lunatics believe.
Skip to 2:04.
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bb7398 No.824108
>>824102
James HuWhite looks so different with hair
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9e7d49 No.824124
>>824108
to be fair you can tell it's already on the way out
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9c31e5 No.824135
>>823030
I'm pr*testant, but I wouldn't be here if I wasn't interested in catholicism and orthodoxy.
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2161a9 No.824289
>>823057
Slippery slope there - I started reading those & now I'm a Catholic.
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8aff35 No.824960
>>824102
Sam Gipp is a known heretic
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0af4d1 No.829124
Can someone please explain why the book of esther is in the Bible? I am genuinely curious.
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1fc367 No.829132
>>829124
1. Because Esther is the besther.
2. Because winnie the pooh Haman.
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1c61c0 No.829136
Tobit has witchcraft, others have questionable history that we know is not true. They weren't supported by early church fathers https://carm.org/early-church-fathers-apocrypha
But also, if you read them, they simply don't mesh with the rest.
Oh also, Jesus said from the blood of Abel to the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah, in Luke 11:51, denoting the original composition of the old testament. So, any argument saying these should be added are arguing against Jesus himself. I know that's a common position of the catholic church, but I don't think that's a good basis for religion if your objective is to receive salvation from the Lord of the universe.
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99d26f No.829137
>>829124
Because it was inspired by God
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1c61c0 No.829179
>>829124
God is not mentioned in it really yet he's in it entirely. His invisible hand is clearly visible.
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36939d No.829187
>>829136
>Witchcraft
- You could argue the same thing about most of Leviticus, or “go wash your clothes in the river 3 times,” or many other things
>Sketchy historocity
- You could argue this about Esther which has a litany of historical and cultural errors
>Abel to Zechariah
- He’s referrring to the prophets. The apocrypha books didn’t have prophets. They’re all “writings” (as in, the last section of the Tanakh) style and in the writings genres. The Old Testament narrative started before Abel, right?
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1c61c0 No.829193
>>829187
1. The difference is is that Leviticus talks a lot about trusting God and proceeding in faith, but also a lot is now common knowledge stuff we understand to be true for sanitary purposes.
2. Esther may have issues, but none of it changes the heart of the story. For the others it does.
3. Abel wasn't a prophet and the denotation was also that the Jews had the correct structure of the old testament. They rejected the apocrypha.
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e0a75b No.829231
>>823057
>>823057
Solomon wasn't under the right mind.
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