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a02b18  No.811586

Has anyone else had this idea? A company town is a town that has all its buildings and land controlled by a company. The residents of the town then operate their own businesses as subsidiaries of the company. The company can "tax" the subsidiaries by drawing off a portion of their profits. This enables a community to be created with complete control over who can live there and what kind of businesses can be run.

In short you could create a Christian company whose charter states that the company will create and maintain a community with the aim of maintaining traditional Christian values. Members of the community who are trusted and respected are given shares in the company and the board of directors is elected from among them to act as the towns council.

Is this feasible? It would allow Christians to create communities that are completely free from government influence since the land and property is privately owned there is no obligation to allow non-Christians or people who live immoral lifestyles into the community. In all other ways it can function as a traditional Christian village, with the long term goal of siphoning off as much money and wealth from the host nation as possible to maintain a high quality of life for the inhabitants.

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c975af  No.811598

Idk where you live but in America this would be illegal. It's all beautiful and idyllic until a jew or muslim or negro wants to move in and you legally have to allow them because you can't discriminate based on religion or race. In the 60s somehow we got freedom mixed up with anti-discrimination.

But why does it have to be a company town? Just so there is an income that doesn't rely on outside companies?

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93f660  No.811600

>>811586

>>811598

Take your meds

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2f50ea  No.811601

>>811598

>It's all beautiful and idyllic until a jew or muslim or negro wants to move in and you legally have to allow them because you can't discriminate based on religion or race.

I don't know if this is true or not. Don't you have freedom of association? The Knights of Columbus are an organization that only accepts practicing Catholics. Religious organizations in the US certainly are allowed to discriminate, there are some churches that even refuse to perform mixed marriages and it's perfectly legal.

Discrimination laws only apply to entities that operate open to the public. If you want to create a club that only accepts members based on certain criteria that's legal because it's not a public entity, it's private, hence why the land and village needs to be owned by a corporation, it's private property. The owner of the property is allowed to use whatever criteria they want in deciding which people to allow on their premises.

>At the heart of the debate is a system of anti-discrimination laws enacted by federal, state and local governments. The entire United States is covered by the Federal Civil Rights Act of 1964, which prohibits discrimination by privately owned places of public accommodation on the basis of race, color, religion or national origin. Places of “public accommodation” include hotels, restaurants, theaters, banks, health clubs and stores. Nonprofit organizations such as churches are generally exempt from the law.

I think the key issue would be that the company is not open to the public, it's private. There's no issue with discriminating against people who want to enter into your house because your house is not a place of public accommodation. The land and buildings of the village would be the same, except owned by the company whose interests are private, not public.

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2f50ea  No.811605

>>811600

>Pretending that Christian communes are a new novel thing

https://www.bruderhof.com/en

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128d00  No.812225

>>811600

>>811601

>Don't you have freedom of association?

No that has been effectively destroyed. Religious groups for now retain some level of being able to exclude others, but im sure there is a lawsuit somewhere trying to remove that.

>I think the key issue would be that the company is not open to the public, it's private.

You dont have the ability to choose who you want to hire in your own company once you pass a threshold in the US. I believe its still at 50 employees, but once you pass that you are forced from the federal level to fill certain quotas. This is even before you get into the requirements forced on you if you want to do business with any level of government.

>>811586

While its possible in theory to have a religious focused industrial isolationist society, in practice it would be almost impossible. Its basically the amish, but with a factory. The amish are only allowed because they have a large community and support network that allows them to form new communities. Starting from scratch would need a lot of seed money and people in command positions who have conviction to be able to keep out and kick out any who would poison the community. There is an entire grievance industry whose whole purpose is to weasel themselves into places to extort money and fracture communities.

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506e0d  No.812233

>>812225

Its not so much that freedom of association is a bad thing, its just freemasons think that because we have the freedom to associate means we don't have the freedom to disassociate as well.

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7c9f9e  No.812242

Sounds like a nice concept, but even if you managed to weasel around every one of the United States' anti-discrimination laws, (((journalists))) would inevitably report on it day and night, and people would harass your company town non-stop until it gets shut down, just like every Christian store that doesn't allow themselves to be bullied into submission by homosexuals. You'd be better off moving to Poland or some other small Christian country that hasn't been (((culturally enriched))).

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ed8d69  No.812336

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>>811586

Whilst I don't expect such a thing to happen these days, the concept has ocurred approximately in the past, at least here in England.

For instance, I'm studying at B'ham right now, and ~2 miles away is Bournville, where the old Cadbury's factory exists.

Years ago, they operated on a system remarkably similar to what you've suggested OP, although I believe the gave up ownership of much of the land at some point in the last century.

Also, I'm fairly certain they were quakers.

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970c5c  No.812365

>>812242

Towns and cities under Christendom owned by lords operated under the same principle however?

The Muslims also already have their own today and its called Dubai.

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970c5c  No.812366

>>812242

Like in the olden days there could be guards on-site to enforce order and prevent this harassment from happening or minimize it?

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970c5c  No.812368

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>>811586

The Headquarters of where the Landlord could reside once it has enough funds could perhaps also model itself off Fort Knox which is essentially acts as a 'modern day Castle' design or close?

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970c5c  No.812369

Register a private police or security guard organization also dedicated to maintaining order of the company town/city's land and its laws/terms and conditions, then you are all set to go.

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b8018b  No.812385

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So it's basically just a complicated form of libertarianism, but one that doesn't work because of anti-discrimination laws in the US? For any democratic system, republic, or similar system ruled "by the people" it is required that the people vote for their own freedom or seize it from the tyrants in other means (could be nonviolent, such as refusing to pay taxes and undercutting the fed). In a monarchy, dictatorship, or other authoritarian state the one in charge must make the decree (which is unlikely). In short, read Hoppe.

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c4a1f9  No.812410

>>812385

>So it's basically just a complicated form of libertarianism

No. Do you just see "company" and immediately think libertarianism. The company is simply an entity that can hold all the property and assets of the community and enables a structure that can act as a pseudo-government by collecting a portion of profits as tax (then using them to help build more community infrastructure) and establishing a charter that details the aims of the organization and how it should be run.

The economic system in the community would likely be something close to distributism whereby the company gives individuals the materials they need to provide a service of value to the community.

>but one that doesn't work because of anti-discrimination laws in the US?

Anti-discrimination laws don't apply. An atheist can't force their way into an Amish community because if they're not allowed in it's "discrimination". Religious organizations are exempt from discrimination laws.

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544d98  No.812411

>>812385

Lmao as I read OP's post I couldn't help but think of Hoppe.

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b8018b  No.812420

>>812410

A business isn't a religious organization though, so if the company is holding all the land they can't discriminate against gays or whatever other group wants to live there without facing a lawsuit. You'd have to form a community based solely on religion, and have the land owned by individual members who all agree to not sell their land to undesirables.

>>812411

Because it's literally a covenant community, but with a business owning the land instead of a landlord.

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c4a1f9  No.812429

>>812420

>A business isn't a religious organization though

Some are. Businesses that explicitly identify as primarily religious in nature are exempt from discrimination laws that apply to businesses that serve the general public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_corporation

The nature of the business changes whether it can discriminate or not. A business that openly caters to people of a specific demographic isn't being discriminatory, however the business must explicitly identify as a religious organization.

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b8018b  No.812434

>>812429

Neat, I did not know that. Thanks for teaching me something new!

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7df9ac  No.812481

>>812420

I think it could be done in Australia if they manage to pass the religious freedom bill in regards to businesses and religions.

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7df9ac  No.812482

We have to try and push for a religious freedom bill in the U.S too in regards to this.

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46ed32  No.812620

I hope stuff like this can happen; I’d probably move there when I get on my own feet. It seems like a good idea, although we probably can’t give everyone to live exactly the way we want them to

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71abeb  No.812625

This is literally how most of Europe formed, people built cities around Cistercian monestaries and then the Cistercians moved farther out into nowhere

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713748  No.812632

>>811586

Sounds great until you realize that the town would be under the control of your local bishop, who has like a 50-50 chance of being a homosexual pedophile or someone who has no problem with homosexual pedophilia and will allow homosexual pedophiles to work for him.

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0ab74a  No.812633

>>812632

Could be resolved by establishing another Inquisition with authority to collect evidence, even through means they don't know if necessary.

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0ab74a  No.812634

>>812632

Have the inquisition use social engineering to lure out the homosexual pedophiles or a way to be contacted anonymously, so those falling victim can contact them in secret in which they could then take down the evidence quickly before acting.

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e0f05f  No.812982

Well dammit I wish I could live in one, it would be more than effective for escaping the temptations of this society. Some of which I'm addicted to and have problems quitting. In a Catholic Company Town it would be much easier to get away from some of those habits.

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2324fb  No.813413

>company

>Christian

Choose one, OP

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2111f9  No.817709

>>813413

Rip the Trappists, then.

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537214  No.826840

>>813413

Corporations are basically the instruments of God's will on Earth if used correctly.

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f08fa4  No.826841

>>812632

>implying you don't already live in a country that protects pedophile rings at the highest level

But it's the bishops who are the bad ones, don't forget goyim!

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537214  No.826842

>>812632

>50-50

Pedo bishops are basically only ones in places like Chicago and Boston. Every now and then they try pigeonholing one elsewhere, but the world is largely

>>812482

We already can but there's a Supreme Court ruling that the government can't enforce any law that provides for restrictions on constitutional rights within its territory. So it's very hard to actually ban abortion, adultery, etc. as well as to stop JWs, Democrats, etc. from doing anti-Cathodox rants on the streets and so on.

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c71aaa  No.826916

>>811586

You'd get absolutely rekt by the kike-run industry, nobody would buy your stuff or sell to you. There's no running away from this Satanic world order, either it falls or we do.

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639391  No.826927

Well, I think Ava Maria, Florida is for Catholics.

There's Saint Marys (sic) Kansas as well, for SSPX Catholics.

I'd move if I could. I'd take a big hit financially in legally divorcing my "not wife" (I'm in the odd position of being legally married and not married in the eyes of the church) and may not be able to afford it once she cleans me out. of course, she'll have nothing to do with a Catholic Community. Sometimes I think if I threw Holy Water on her she'd smoke and burn.

The Idea is Sound

The idea is sound, it can and has been done before. Basically, you make it so folks who sin don't want to be there. The Amish do this by living the simple life, and only associating with their own.

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516dee  No.826941

>>826927

How is she not really your wife? Did you declare yourselves husband and wife before God and consummate?

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b30e26  No.828673

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>>811586

I really like the idea of a Christian Town. Sadly, this cannot be done in contemporary America. Just look at all the court cases that struck down attempts by towns to keep pornography out of their town.

We need to organize ourselves better. I would urge you to look into the ADF (the Alliance Defending Freedom) and would ask that you consider helping them or similar organizations.

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f6d26c  No.828686

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>>811586

There's already a better version of this and it's just plain ol' complete Christian demographic takeover. Finance and maybe have some of your family or even you join your local Traditional church and make it a priority of these three things: Having large Christian families, promote members to be apart of every business in that area (ie promoting in the community how we need our own doctors and lawmakers so that members will eventually take up these roles in society and be an example to non-Christians to look to and hopefully convert), and finally raising funds to build more well built traditional church that put emphasis of having large well protected families/close knit community in mind.

That's how Christian towns and eventually Christian nations are made in the first place. Having large families and a community that reflects this and just trying to get jobs in the area isn't illegal. We've forgotten how to do this, but it's not impossible and We live in an incredible time where some are already trying to make this a reality.

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061e45  No.828694

>>811586

so basically capitalist feudalism?

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