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a89763  No.810014

Pope compares abortion to 'hiring hitman'…

Pope Francis made the claims at a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference

http://archive.today/2019.05.26-002543/https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7069883/Pope-compares-abortion-hiring-hitman.html

Pope Francis has compared abortion to 'hiring a hitman' during a Vatican-sponsored anti-abortion conference. Abortion can never be condoned, even when the fetus is gravely sick or malformed, Pope Francis said during a pro-life conference held in the Vatican this morning. He urged doctors and priests to support families to carry all pregnancies to term - even where death is the result. The Pope claimed his opposition to abortion was not for religious issues, but for human ones. He said: 'Is it licit to throw away a life to resolve a problem? 'Is it licit to hire a hitman to resolve a problem?' Francis disagreed with abortions done on grounds of prenatal testing which reveals problems with the fetus. He said a human being is 'never incompatible with life'.

Even if a baby is so unwell it will die in the womb or shortly after birth Francis says they should be looked after for as long as possible. 'Taking care of these children helps parents to grieve and not only think of it as a loss, but as a step on a path taken together,' Francis said. The conference was organised by the Dicastery for Laity, Family and Life, and the 'Heart in a Drop' Foundation, which works to welcome 'children born in conditions of extreme fragility'. He told the crowd every child is 'a gift that changes the history of a family…and this child needs to be welcomed, loved and cared for'. He said often the 'mere suspicion of disease can change the experience of pregnancy,' and even risk 'throwing women and couples' into a 'deep despair'. But 'the evolution of every disease is always subjective and often not even doctors know how it will manifest itself in the individual', according to the Pope. Francis has spoken out strongly against abortion, although he has also expressed sympathy for women who have had them and made it easier for them to be forgiven.

In 2015 he wrote a letter to the Vatican saying priests could use their discretion to formally forgive women who had an abortion and wanted absolution. At the time Joe O'Brien, writing for Catholics for Choice, said: 'The very narrowness of Francis' idea of a particular "year of mercy" suggests that he still has a blind spot when it comes to women and what they need or want. 'In all the talk about abortion and women, Francis also fails to mention men—a sin of omission I have no doubt—considering that men are just as involved in the baby-making process, as well as often part of family planning decisions.' But in June 2018 the Pope likened abortion to Nazi eugenics - saying parents should accept the children God gives them. At a meeting of an Italian family association he told those gathered that as a child he was horrified to hear stories from his teacher about children 'thrown from the mountain' if they were born with malformations. 'Today we do the same thing,' he said. 'Last century, the whole world was scandalised by what the Nazis did to purify the race. Today, we do the same thing but with white gloves.'

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eda940  No.810032

>>810014

REEEEE PAPISTS GET OUT! MY BODY MY CHOICE!

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c70ec4  No.810037

And yet he still refuses to condemn or excommunicate pro-abortion "catholic" politicians.

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185e7d  No.810038

>>810037

They excommunicate themselves if they read a catechism they would know this.

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a543f2  No.810040

>>810038

So why doesn't the pope kick them out again?

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17e1b9  No.810044

>>810014

he already said that a few months ago

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c70ec4  No.810064

>>810038

>>810040

The point of public excommunication is to get the person to realise their immortal soul is in peril, get them to publicly renounce their heretical view that got them excommunicated, and to come back into communion. The more prominent the person, the more it should serve as example to others. Millions of souls are at risk for the sake of public relations with atheist media.

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9ecedb  No.810065

great statement.

Now do a similar statement concerning sodomites my dear pope.

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49fedd  No.810163

>>810064

that would cause a schism, do you really think that they would stay within the church if they were excommunicated?

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c70ec4  No.810179

>>810163

They're not really in it anyway. They deny their sins are sins and they aren't seeking forgiveness since they don't consider it sin. Their salvation is on the line and ignoring the problem won't solve it.

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87614e  No.810180

>>810037

It's not his place to do so. I am not saying he doesn't have universal jurisdiction, I am saying that he is a global leader and it is unfitting for him to address politicians of any respective country. That is for the bishops to address, who ought not be excused for their worldliness and cowardice.

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49fedd  No.810197

>>810179

how do you solve the problem without them and the clergy that support them going full MAD and taking part of the church with them?

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0f41ad  No.810198

>>810014

Is Pope Francis what they call a Living Saint?

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41e7f4  No.810199

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>>810065

He did, multiple times. Of course, in addition to talking about the evil of sin, he also talks about dealing with this evil of sin and people struggling with sin in various, often not optimal, situations, and these are the quotes that everyone obsesses about - but, contrary to the public perception, he is not silent about the evil of sin.

>[Marriage equality] is not a political struggle; it is the destructive attempt toward God’s plan.

>[The push for marriage equality is] the envy of the Devil, by which sin entered the world, which cunningly seeks to destroy the image of God.

>[On gay adoption] What is at stake here is the identity and survival of the family: father, mother, and children. At stake are the lives of so many children who will be discriminated against in advance, depriving them of the human maturation that God wanted to be given with a father and a mother.

>I cannot hide my concern for the family, which is threatened, perhaps as never before, from within and without. Fundamental relationships are being called into question, as is the very basis of marriage and the family. I can only reiterate the importance and, above all, the richness and the beauty of family life.

>In the Curia there are holy people. But there is also a stream of corruption. The ‘gay lobby’ is mentioned, and it is true, it is there. We need to see what we can do.

>[From the same interview in which he said his famous "Who am I to judge?"] The problem is lobbying by this orientation, or lobbies of greedy people, political lobbies, Masonic lobbies, so many lobbies. This is the worse problem.

>[There was soon to be a referendum in Slovakia on marriage equality and adoption rights by same-gender couples.] I greet the pilgrims from Slovakia and, through them, I wish to express my appreciation to the entire Slovak church, encouraging everyone to continue their efforts in defense of the family, the vital cell of society.

>Let’s think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings. . .Let’s think also of genetic manipulation, of the manipulation of life, or of the gender theory, that does not recognize the order of creation.

>The acceptance of our bodies as God’s gift is vital for welcoming and accepting the entire world as a gift from the Father and our common home, whereas thinking that we enjoy absolute power over our own bodies turns, often subtly, into thinking that we enjoy absolute power over creation. Learning to accept our body, to care for it and to respect its fullest meaning, is an essential element of any genuine human ecology. Also, valuing one’s own body in its femininity or masculinity is necessary if I am going to be able to recognize myself in an encounter with someone who is different.

>[at a general audience the week before a referendum to decide the fate of a pro-marriage equality law] I wish to encourage all Slovenians, especially those in public capacity, to preserve the family as the basic unit of society.

>In consecrated and priestly life, there’s no room for that kind of affection. Therefore, the church recommends that people with that kind of ingrained tendency should not be accepted into the ministry or consecrated life.

>A great enemy of marriage today is the theory of gender

>The dad remembered that in the schoolbooks they taught gender theory. And this is against natural things

There is more, but I think you get the point.

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03493f  No.810201

>>810198

>Pope Francis will be canonized within our lifetimes

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8fbc36  No.810202

Funny how all the supposedly Francis-loving liberals go silent over all his condemnations of abortion.

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532f05  No.810204

Are the Masons still a thing? At least around here the only people I see with Mason plates are old black guys, guessing it's the VFW for retired middle managers. Catholics sperg out about them all the time but I don't even think I know any masons, and I've worked in finance my whole career. Aren't they meant to be infiltrating us or something?

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8fbc36  No.810210

>>810204

You live in Germany? Here in Brazil, Freemasonry is still very active and heavily infiltrated in politics. Lots of masons in positions of power, including our current Vice-President, our last President, lots of judges and Congressmen.

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03493f  No.810211

>>810204

I'm certainly not well read on the subject, but they masquerade as simply a social club–they're deists who are also pantheists, they believe that the Supreme Being manifests as nature, and all religions are (flawed) ways of "worshiping" this being, who is unknowable (so, like what the Gnostics thought about the Deity above the Demiurge). They also greatly admire Lucifer as the "liberator" of man… Because they have these pluralistic beliefs, they want to subvert institutions which assert that their God is distinct and the only way to salvation. (The largest being, the Catholic Church.) You will here some say that their greatest "triumph" was the Novus Ordo and Vatican II. I'll leave that up to you to decide.

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ee8c8b  No.810223

meanwhile he protects and excuses pedo priests

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abef20  No.810264

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>>810014

>This week

>Pope Francis compares abortion to 'hiring hitman'

>Next week

>Pope Francis says women should have the right to choose!

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535199  No.810289

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>>810264

>Pope Francis says women should have the right to choose!

People always say that he is ambiguous about things like abortion, but is he really? Can you give me any quote in which he supports or permits abortion?

>I wish to restate as firmly as I can that abortion is a grave sin, since it puts an end to an innocent life.

>The murder of children. To have an easy life, they get rid of an innocent.

>There is a need to discern ‘the new things’: Is this new thing from the Lord, does it come from the Holy Spirit, is it rooted in God? Or does this newness come from a perverse root? But before, [for example] yes, it was a sin to kill children; but today it is not a problem, it is a perverse novelty.

>Every child who, rather than being born, is condemned unjustly to being aborted, bears the face of Jesus Christ, bears the face of the Lord, who even before he was born, and then just after birth, experienced the world’s rejection.

>Among the vulnerable for whom the church wishes to care with particular love and concern are unborn children, the most defenseless and innocent among us. Nowadays efforts are made to deny them their human dignity and to do with them whatever one pleases, taking their lives and passing laws preventing anyone from standing in the way of this.

And so on.

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92e3b3  No.810304

>>810264

>>Pope Francis says women should have the right to choose!

Fake news.

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bb18d9  No.810499

>>810304

Leave it to a prot to spread fakenews just like they spread a fakegospel.

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da2502  No.810648

Not wrong

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a278a5  No.810950

>He said: 'Is it licit to hire a hitman to resolve a problem?'

Aww man. I had all these fantasies about a "Dark Pope" who secretly had his own private team of assassination specialists that answered only to him and he puts hits out on all the "problematic" clergyman propagating the usage of usury. This is done in order to clean up the Church before it fractures.

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15bf65  No.810954

>>810950

Make that into a fictional novel and I might actually read that.

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ffc33c  No.811020

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>>810950

Sorry m8. "Hated Pope" is perhaps a more appropriate name for Pope Francis, as no matter what he says or does, someone gets triggered.

>>810499

Kek.

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8f0e95  No.813637

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>>810950

Well the Vatican is silencing this fella, so not far from the truth…

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92593c  No.813675

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

he's not wrong

watch this video then tell me he's wrong

PRO TIP YOU CAN NOT

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1eec07  No.825185

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>>810014

Surprised he actually stands for life, not abortion. This pope is a political prostitute planning to help with destroying the west.

How ever I agree with him. He should't be too easy on abortion having sluts though.

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1eec07  No.825186

>>811020

I agree totally with all these "bigoted" statements. The only one I have a problem with is the opposition to condoms, sexED and hitting on kids.

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