f5149c No.809743
>Due to my recent turn to faith, my sense of morality is becoming based on the Bible. I've stopped a lot of behaviors that I've used to do and am in the process of making other changes. I've also realized that the majority of my published materials and online platforms lead men into sin or enable them to partake in sin. I no longer want this to occur, so I am implementing two new rules on the forum that are effective on June 1, 2019.
1 .You can no longer discuss fornication or pre-marital sexual activity
Things you can discuss:
-Meeting women with the intention of entering a relationship with them
-Attracting women
-Going on dates
-How to enter relationships
-Using technology to meet women
-How to maintain relationships
-Sexual activity while married
Things you can no longer discuss:
-Meeting women with the intention of fornicating with them
-How to bang
-Physical intimacy with women you're not married to beyond the act of kissing
-Maintaining relationships with multiple women (i.e. spinning plates)
-Cheating on significant others (adultery)
-Using technology to fornicate
-Discussion of travel destinations which are best for fornication
-Stories of sexual activity while not married
-Promoting masturbation, oral sex, anal sex, etc.
2. You can no longer use pornographic or vulgar language
-Refrain from using terms like "I winnie the poohed her" or "I want to winnie the pooh her." Do not describe sexual encounters or situations that are beyond the act of kissing unless you are married.
-Refrain from using profanity if a cleaner word would suffice.
These rules will cause great change to the forum
The above two rules will mostly apply to the Game and Travel subforums. I know that I may lose some of you because of these rules, but I can no longer help men lead a life of sin, because doing so is weighing on my conscious.
I created this forum in 2008 to help men fornicate, so I don't know if it's possible to "retrofit" it for another purpose, but it's worth a try. In the meanwhile, I will gradually lock threads that break these new rules if they become active. The fully updated rules that new members see is stickied in the Everything Else forum. It can be viewed here.
https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73256.html
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15dade No.809744
That's obviously great for him, but does he still sells and make money from his various PUA books ?
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f5149c No.809749
>>809744
Yes. I think he will stop doing that in the future. I suspect he needs to find a new source of income first. His latest book was called lady and it was about how a woman should behave to find a good husband.
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4c09b8 No.809751
>>809744
>>809749
Check out his book shop link. A humongous chunk of his pro-fornication books are now listed as no longer available for sale. There's still a few rotten apples in the barrel… but this is still a freakishly huge step.
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b7be76 No.809760
>>809743
wow i didn't know how big this guy was
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f4bff1 No.809778
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6b3ded No.809780
>click thread
>Half of the posts are people complaining about "censorship" and "free speach"
Liberalism was a mistake. This roosh guy has earned my respect nonetheless. Hope he manages to free himself fro degeneracy for good.
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a2bd42 No.809795
>>809780
They're not wrong though. He wants to repent for his sins, great, but that is absolutely the worst possible way to evangelize the message he's trying to spread. All this is going to do is reinforce the secular notion that Christians are authoritarian nut jobs and keep people away from the gospel. If he wanted to distance himself from his past, he should've either shut the whole forum down completely, or handed off to some other heathen to manage. It's not his role to play God for unwilling non-believers. This is little more than him loudly boasting about his righteousness. He still has a lot to learn.
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f14837 No.809796
>>809795
In heaven there is a King, in hell all are equal.
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07dd75 No.809799
>>809743
I can already see the mass exodus of his current denizens due to Roosh finding some morals. The remaining users might find God and or tolerate the new rules. I am somewhat curious as to what the forum will turn into now that "sinposting" is verboten.
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286ee4 No.809800
>>809743
I'm impressed he's taking it seriously. I remember even years ago when I was a bluepilled normie finding his content distasteful. Best of wishes to Roosh, he's in a position to save souls and truly make the world a better place.
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ac7a2a No.809819
>>809743
Based and breadpilled
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778faf No.809832
>>809799
they should take the final redpill or rather blackpill for PUArtists and join lookism.net then they might realize the vanity of the world or die coping.
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ba58a9 No.809860
>>809751
>Things you can no longer discuss:
>Physical intimacy with women you're not married to beyond the act of kissing
BASED AND BREADPILLED
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5b83ad No.809865
>>809795
>moderating an online forum is playing God
Are you the /christianity/ spammer by any chance?
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c69ea8 No.809867
>>809780
<Free speech is an inherently Christian value because it was written into the U.S. Constitution, which was directly inspired by God.
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3a383d No.810262
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cbd766 No.810266
I'm proud of this guy. I wish him the best.
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88cb1f No.810271
>>809743
This very seriously made me contemplate the nature of sin guys.
If this guy didn't go through all the sins and fornications that he did, would he have ever arrived at this point?
My personal experience (as I used to be a mass fornicator, which I reduced to a more "healthy" level, but still struggle with fully overcoming) is that if I didn't push myself to the very limits of moral transgression I could would have never understood my own wickedness. Everyone warned me where it will lead, and only when I have become damaged and hurt by sin did I realize the truth of those warnings.
Why am I like this? Why do I have to have firsthand experience before I can take something seriously?
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88cb1f No.810272
>>809795
>Christians are authoritarian
We are.
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826b8a No.810276
>>809795
MODERNISTS GET OUT
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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826b8a No.810277
>>810271
Read Romans anon, it answers all these questions
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5409ea No.810278
>>809795
Imagine not being an authoritarian and instead caving to the whims of sinners. Like Ahab caving to the whims of Jezebel. Democracy is cancer. Roosh's forum is not a democracy. He is the king of his domain. Don't like it? Go somewhere else.
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1cf9ad No.810298
>>810272
>>810278
Authoritarianism is incompatible with agency (free will). Free will which is said to be a strict requirement to being a good/godly person. If you can't make your choices, you can't choose to be good any more than you can choose to be evil.
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46f7fd No.810302
>>810298
>implying that personal freedom must be dialed up to 11 in order for good people to exist
>implying that authority must be bad because freedom is good
>implying that freedom of the source of all that is good
Found the freedom idolater.
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792cce No.810318
>>809795
It's his forum, he owns it. And it's not like he has a monopoly like Twitter or Youtube, there are lots of places people can go to talk about seduction online. So even if you're a free speech absolutist, he did nothing wrong. If he passed the forum on to a non-Christian to maintain in the same way it was before, he would be actively encouraging sin.
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493ea9 No.810319
>>809795
That would be true if he was running 8chan or Facebook. Roosh's forums are Roosh's forums.
Leaving aside that Facebook is Zuckerberg's forums now.
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493ea9 No.810320
>>810271
Our culture told us to fornicate and I did okay for myself except that I should have married this one girl 10 years ago but our culture had been altered by fornication and contraception so that I can only get married now that I have a "good job".
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f83905 No.810336
>>810302
>liberty idolater
We already have a term for those. We call them (((Freemasons))). thank you, prots. Very cool
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bc8b66 No.810337
>It was a legitimate conversion and not a joke
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f5149c No.810763
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f5149c No.810765
>>810763
Bang
Bang Poland
Bang Ukraine
Bang Iceland
Don’t Bang Denmark
Bang Lithuania
Bang Estonia
Don’t Bang Latvia
Roosh’s Argentina Compendium
Roosh’s Brazil Compendium
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4bf26f No.810779
>>810271
This is just how we all are in general. We think we know better than people who mean us good or don't see the wisdom in their words because we don't have the same experience as them. Sometimes you just have to let someone put their hand on the stove and figure out that it's hot for themselves.
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aa3807 No.810782
>>810271
Jesus' disciples went through the same thing. We have to fall in order to learn how to get back up.
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3a383d No.810858
>>810271
I'ved always hated fornication ever since I was about 15 years old. Have never done it and I never will.
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9f72e9 No.817706
>>810271
>If this guy didn't go through all the sins and fornications that he did, would he have ever arrived at this point?
I think the death of his sister broke him. On her deathbed she probably asked "Would you want another man to treat me the way you treat other women?"
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20cf64 No.823554
>>810271
I consider this to be a form of the "Felix Culpa" concept. The Happy Fall, theorized by medieval theologians suggests that the fall of mankind was ultimately positive because it paved the way for our redemption through Jesus Christ.
It is a concept I have been pondering for some time and this was the conclusion I have come to (may God help me if it is incorrect):
1. God would have only set out to create the best world, as He is perfect.
2. God would have foreseen that the world He created and the men He created in that world would reject Him.
3. In creating this world, God knew it was the best world, even though mankind rejected Him.
From this I have come to believe that sin and redemptive suffering are a part of the creation process of mankind. That is not to say that they are good things (and just by composing this message I am forced to think deeper about these things), but rather through our self inflicted departure from God we appreciate Him greater upon our return. As to whether a world where this is not the case would be greater, I have not experienced such a world and never will. But through the 3 points above, I do not believe it would be better, nor would it glorify God as much.
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4c1946 No.823559
>>809743
this caused him to lose a lot of fans and turned a turmoil in his forums. but I REALLY respect him for this hard 180 degree decision on forums rules and to follow and love GOD with all his heart, soul, body, mind.
I've been having my own conflict with lust, and Roosh's decision to turn away from sexual immorality really solidified my resolve to quit all fapping and porn.
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c3691d No.823561
>>810302
>implying that authority must be bad because freedom is good
Authority is good, if used wisely.
But any worthwhile society must have clear limits to that authority, and provide both a way of expressing criticism and feedback for the decisions of the authority, and a clear and bloodless transition of power, once that authority loses it's validity, either by reaching the end of it's agreed upon term, or by forfeiting it's legitimacy by sliding into totalitarian insanity.
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79f7a0 No.823574
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>>809743
So Roosh and EMJ collabed not too long ago.
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88bc28 No.823612
He's abandoned fornication but he's still full of hate and lies in his heart
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ddf864 No.823693
>>823612
>he's still full of hate and lies in his heart
elaborate
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c59c97 No.823701
>>823574
>Pearl Harbor was a false flag
WHAT
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cbc7cc No.823703
>>823701
They atom-bombed the two most Catholic cities in Japan.
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ea68e2 No.823711
>>823703
That is long debunked fake news.
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79f7a0 No.823732
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831096 No.823733
>>823701
Have you never heard of this before? It's quite a long standing 'conspiracy'. Not exactly a false flag, but that the US had foreknowledge of Pearl Harbor. Wikipedia apparently calls it a "fringe theory" now (I don't remember reading that years ago), but you can read the information for yourself (not sure Wiki is the best source but…) and decide for yourself.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_Harbor_advance-knowledge_conspiracy_theory
It's possible that 9/11 was a similar situation (rather than the crazy conspiracies like it was a hologram, energy weapon, controlled explosion etc). There are loads of terror plots foiled all the time, they could have known about that one and let it happen. But who knows. I don't think we will ever definitely know, so there isn't really much point.
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