f6fb98 No.804399[Last 50 Posts]
Hi brothers. I want your take on this podcast by Matthew Raphael Johnson. As a catholic, I listened for some time even though I considered the approach to be a bit larpy at some times.
Last few weeks I could not have wrapped my mind around him saying Notre Dame cathedral is just "middle class bourgeois attraction" and likened it to "cremation of the corpse" because nobody "knows the symbolism" etc.
Like..does the guy not realize that the building itself has a great value in its beauty and it can be a nucleus of resurrection of French people? The last thing I would expect from the guy is to liken it to "cremation of a corpse".
Truly disgusting. I no longer listen regularly but I was a bit shocked by such an introduction. He said he would expand upon it on "daily nationalist" but I do not think he ever did and I no longer listen to that anyway.
If you want to listen for yourself here
https://archive.radioaryan.com/TON/TON%20041719.mp3
It is on the beginning of the episode, the very first few minutes.
What is your take on this guy?
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26a1bd No.804407
>>804399
>Dr. Matthew Raphael Johnson is an American-born author, commentator and priest with the Old Calendarist Greek Orthodox Autonomous Orthodox Metropolia
Old Calendarist and a self proclaimed priest, move on people
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b49633 No.804408
>>804399
>Podcast host is a LARPodox
>Is perfectly fine with the destruction of one of God's houses
Considering the host's home nation isn't France I am not the least bit shocked by his abhorrent behavior. The problem I see with alot of "nationalist" types is their inability to emphasize with other people of other nations. It's a lack of charity that made me realize that those types do Christianity all wrong. yes, literally not all nationalists are like this People like him and Florian Geyer are fun to listen to at first, but after a while show thier true colors.
Pray for them.
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2f0210 No.804409
I don't know what "Orthodox Nationalist" is but it sounds just like the kind of retarded LARPy shit people love around here.
>>804407
>he's a schismatic
Nothing to see here. Most modern-day schismatics are autistically angry about everything that's not their little sect.
This being said, here is the actualy official response of Orthodox bishops in France:
http://www.aeof.fr/articol_51820/aeof---communique-incendie-notre-dame-de-paris-16-avril-2019.html
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26a1bd No.804410
I now clicked on the link, you literally can't make this shit up
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98e7c6 No.804414
>>804410
That is what I fear… for Christian newcomers to get attracted to the new right wing which emerged in the 1930s and which caused tradition and family to be turned by the Jewish higher ups into taboos.
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14af0c No.804437
This thread is a perfect example of what I've been thinking for a long time. The term orthoLARPer is just an empty buzzword used by prots and catholics to denounce orthodoxy. Everyone who's orthodox is automatically a LARP, in your eyes. I'm certain that Matthew Raphael Johnson has a way better understanding of christianity than most anons on this board.
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a83569 No.804442
>>804437
this x 1000
>>804399
I've actually been to Notre Dame and can confirm. It's just a big tourist attraction; I barely saw anyone going there to pray.
inb4 normiedox claim "Orthodoxy is against nationalism"
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38a89d No.804455
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. The guy has some interesting stuff to be honest. Like this video. I also enjoyed his essay: https://theorthodoxnationalist.files.wordpress.com/2018/06/psych_underground.pdf
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26a1bd No.804462
>>804414
That's not even 1930 right, it's the modern chaotic right psyops of the internet. The question is who are those centers who try to infiltrate Orthodoxy and what do the want to accoplish. Because the Old Calendarists, even though their schismatics and not in the Orthodox Church, have a strong network in majority Orthodox countris and are not to be taken lightly.
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a83569 No.804473
>>804462
I've got some news for you. The people "infiltrating Orthodoxy" aren't Old Callendarists, it's modernists normies who want to change Orthodoxy and erase the ethnic component.
I know you want to get bent out of shape over a calendar but we have bigger fish to fry.
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18e458 No.804475
>>804473
Both are worthless and will weaken orthodoxy.
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a83569 No.804481
>>804462
>>804475
Dr. Johnson is not an Old Callendarist, he just has sympathies with the way they were treated.
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4d6d16 No.804503
>>804409
>but it sounds just like the kind of retarded LARPy shit people love around here.
This.
/christian/ has a problem in the past few years of shilling literal who theologians, but that are "based", because they insult <insert group here>:
-Anderson is awesome, because he hates gays, is anti-zionist, calls people retarded, and screams a lot;
-E. Michael Jones for being anti-semitic and hating thots;
-Matthew Raphael Johnson for being an orthodox neo-nazi radio host;
-Brother Nathaniel, in the past, for being a jew hating jew;
-that guy that likes the Dimond Brothers for "caling out" whatever;
-the most common patristic quotes invoked here(besides the ones thrown around in catorthodox debates) being /pol/ infographics of Church Fathers calling jews whatever;
-that faggot shilling Christian Identity;
etc.
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a83569 No.804506
>>804503
>MRJ is a neo Nazi because he talks about ethnicity
>EMJ is anti-Semitic because he talks about jews
RIP this board.
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7f4bed No.804507
>>804503
>EMJ anti-semetic thot hater
>brother nathaniel ALSO """anti-semetic"""
>slandering other posters
>Also, church fathers were ALSO anti-semetic
wew lad
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4d6d16 No.804510
>>804507
>>804506
Oh, please, what other marvelous insights into theology are these e-theologians known for, on this board?
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26a1bd No.804511
>>804473
Old Calendarists aren't even part of the church to begin with. But i shouldn't use the word infiltrate, because you can't infiltrate something you're not even part of, but rather influence or confuse the minds of people who've take an interesting in Orthodoxy. And i see a coalition of schismatic groups and literal white nationalists here. This can't be accidental.
>>804481
His metapedia article says that he is actually a priest in an OC church.
https://en.metapedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Raphael_Johnson
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7f4bed No.804512
>>804510
Well personally EMJ made me definetevely reject contraception, gay marriage,etc. And helped me to open my eyes to various things. And a lot of people are waking up because of his influence ( E.g Roosh V). So he is doing a lot of good to help counter-culture and alarming christians to know who our temporal enemies and how we can fight them. Also i'm pretty sure i never heard any of these people call themselves theologians.
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e68d24 No.804513
>>804503
>noooo don't criticize muh chosen people, they're good boys and also you're a LARPer
>the Church Fathers were e-theologians
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4d6d16 No.804514
>>804512
>Also i'm pretty sure i never heard any of these people call themselves theologians.
No, just monks, pastors, and doctors(what institutions gave EMJ a doctorate, anyhow?) that just so happened to film themselves all the time to get an audience.
>>804513
Answer my question.
And yes, when the only thing you know from hundreds of tomes of patristics is a couple of negative quotes about jews, that you found on /pol/, you haven't read the Church Fathers.
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c1b204 No.804516
>>804481
I don't actually have many issues with Old Calendarists necessarily. Many just don't like ecumenism, but are still Orthodox in every way. They don't add any strange ideas - they just negate themselves from world orthodoxy. This is why many still love Holy Transfiguration's prayer book or the Orthodox New Testament from Holy Apostles Convent. These are still very Orthodox books.
I meant the identitarians and modernists are equally worthless. Jesus Christ is not the driver of their worldviews. They're obsessed with race or modernism instead. Those are their gods.
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26a1bd No.804519
>>804516
Yeah, they're 100% Orthodox except from the tiny bit and absolutely irrelevant part that they're not in the Orthodox church lmao. Just be protestant already.
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c1b204 No.804521
>>804519
They would say the others are not in the Orthodox church instead. Sometimes it's almost convincing, when I look at the state of world orthodoxy.
Lets take the most famous world orthodox figure at the moment: Bishop Timothy (Kallistos) Ware. He's advocating for stances on queers to be softened, and that if they "love" each other, that's it's somehow good (as opposed to gays who sleep around.. completely ignoring the fact that being gay in itself is a sin).
https://www.orthodoxytoday.org/blog/2018/06/kallistos-ware-comes-out-for-homosexual-marriage/
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e68d24 No.804524
>>804514
>answer my question
Why do you think I listen to MRJ for theological insight? Most of his podcast episodes are about history or current events.
>And yes, when the only thing you know from hundreds of tomes of patristics is a couple of negative quotes about jews, that you found on /pol/, you haven't read the Church Fathers.
I'm not the /pol/ack you think I am. I don't even browse /pol/. But clearly, the Church Fathers did not share not hard on for jews, even if they wrote about other things too.
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26a1bd No.804526
>>804521
It's not up for a debate, the Orthodox church is the same that was 2000 years ago. I can't take a group of my friend and leave and take the church with me. The same article of Ware that is being spammed around for some years now isn't representative of the state of Orthodoxy today.
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4d6d16 No.804527
>>804524
>did not share not hard on for jews
What?
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f6fb98 No.804529
>>804442
It is still house of God. Glowing over it being burned down is disgusting.
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e68d24 No.804530
>>804527
You seem to take offence at criticism of the chosen ones.
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c1b204 No.804531
>>804526
I didn't say to leave. I'm just saying that those monks and nuns who simply withdraw (rather than actively promote heresy.. but simply withdraw) have a point. They'd rather just practice their faith rather than be around these things. I'm not going to judge them. I'd rather say that the people advocating queer marriage are more destructive.
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5ee9d1 No.804532
>>804510
EMJ makes his living as an author and researcher. Making YouTube videos on the side or podcasts on a politically incorrect site doesn’t suddenly make someone discredited. These normiedox will never actually give us specifics of how someone is unorthodox, only fallacious arguments.
It doesn’t matter though as all these “thot hating” “anti Semitic” (insert virtue signal newspeak term) ideas are contained in the writings of the Saints and Church fathers as a previous anon mentioned.
>>804526
Ware is a normiedox lukewarm layman spouting his own opinions; indeed not representative of the Church.
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f6fb98 No.804533
>>804514
> that you found on /pol/, you haven't read the Church Fathers.
First, /pol/ is not the only website to read negative things about the jews, second how do you know he did not read them?
Please enlighten us with your clairvoyant superpowers.
You are clearly that retard that claimed I never read st. John Chrysostom
>inb4 MUH POOOOOOOOL
You seem to like chosenites a lot and accuse anyone disliking them of being /pol/
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2f0210 No.804534
>>804529
>Papist building
>A house of God
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f6fb98 No.804535
>>804534
>schismatic screeching
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c1b204 No.804536
>>804532
>Ware is a normiedox lukewarm layman spouting his own opinions; indeed not representative of the Church.
Unfortunately, he's not a layman. He's a bishop. I wouldn't care otherwise.
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26a1bd No.804539
>>804531
You're making them sound like they're some great ascetics while OC are mostly known for protesting with "God hates fags" signs and harrassing other Orthodox people. Please, i know Old Calendarists, they're like a protestant cult but with beards.
>>804532
Idk he's an old Angical convert cut him some slack
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2f0210 No.804540
Catholics have no business calling anyone a schismatic.
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2f0210 No.804541
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4d6d16 No.804542
>>804530
>>804532
When that's the vast majority of the stuff that's distributed here, while, at the beggining, we were having threads discussing Augustine's "City of God" chapter by chapter, bible studying on Twitch, creating torrents and books that were supposed to be good guides for christians(divided by denom, even), and actually making worthwhile stuff, yes, i take offence.
Yes, we can do better than this bullshit.
>>804533
>second how do you know he did not read them?
Just as i'd know someone didn't read the books of Adam Smith, if the only thing he can say is that quote about enlightened self-interest, and nothing else.
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5ee9d1 No.804543
>>804536
I stand corrected. Still doesn’t matter, as we just ignore his heresy.
But also fyi MRJ is not an Old Callendarist if it was you on about that. He’s addressed this issue before.
When it comes to a callendar issue vs a judaiser issue I’m going to say the judaiser issue is more urgent and malicious.
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c1b204 No.804546
>>804539
>You're making them sound like they're some great ascetics while OC are mostly known for protesting with "God hates fags" signs and harrassing other Orthodox people. Please, i know Old Calendarists, they're like a protestant cult but with beards.
I did? I didn't say anything about ascetism. No more than usual ascetism for any monk or nun. I just said they wanted to be away from this larger movement.
I've never talked to any personally except an old nun - so obviously the beard doesn't apply. She was just a sweet old woman, but with very traditional views.
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f6fb98 No.804547
>>804541
>screeching continues
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f6fb98 No.804548
>>804542
You were wrong because I did read the book. What about that retard?
I got like 10 pages of quotes written down from it.
But please continue shilling everyong is buying yourshit don't worry
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4d6d16 No.804550
>>804548
>I got like 10 pages of quotes written down from it.
Ok, what did you like most about it?
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5ee9d1 No.804551
>>804542
The Orthodox Christian position on the Jews hasn’t changed, period. If there’s /pol/ users who want to come on here and learn about Christianity and our position, that’s exactly what the Church fathers tell us to do, to spread the good news and convert the nations. This isn’t some high school clique where you get excommunicated for talking to and hosting podcasts on “neo nazi” sites.
Those thread ideas sound great, why haven’t you made them?
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26a1bd No.804552
>>804546
Maybe there're more down to earth there idk. In my country they've strong cliques and can become pretty dangerous i assure you. I also can't get past that they were harassing and slander St Porphyrious and St Paisios in Mt Athos.
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c1b204 No.804553
>>804552
Ah, I can understand where you're coming from then.
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4d6d16 No.804554
>>804551
>If there’s /pol/ users who want to come on here and learn about Christianity and our position, that’s exactly what the Church fathers tell us to do, to spread the good news and convert the nations.
Yeah, somehow they overwelmingly never learn anything besides a half dozen non-PC quotes.
How weird.
It's like we don't actually get to the Good News or anything unique to Christianity while trying to placate them.
>Those thread ideas sound great, why haven’t you made them?
Some have tried recently.
Shockingly, nowadays, there's not much interest.
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e68d24 No.804557
>>804542
All boards and chans "were good" at one point, Anon.
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52560b No.804566
>>804557
What art thou talking about?
/b/ was never good.
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5ee9d1 No.804567
>>804554
Sounds like a strawman.
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f6fb98 No.804591
>>804550
The part where Chrysostom urges those who are aware of Judaizing disease spreading across his church to act…to keep their brothers in Christ safe from falling into heresy/insulting Christ by attending jewish feasts/going to synagogues.
He writes that sick need healing. If one knows how to help, he should do it.
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f6fb98 No.804593
>>804550
Look man I will be honest. You shill for jews regularly and obviously you do not want people to read it/other things by church fathers so you insult those who did while claiming they have no idea what they're talking about.
Then anyone disagreeing with you must be /pol/ etc. It is just pathetic at best.
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ac98a7 No.804614
>>804503
dude you're an idiot
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4d6d16 No.804709
>>804593
>You shill for jews regularly
>Then anyone disagreeing with you must be /pol/
Yes, i'm sure people that lose their shit when i suggest we focus on the 99% of internet and theology outside /pol/'s obsession with jews, for a change, and say i'm JIDF/communist/whatever belong to /co/
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f6fb98 No.804714
>>804709
Nobody focuses 99% /christian/ on jews. You're strawmanning again
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9d272f No.804906
>>804503
It just dawned on me that I've never used the term "go back to reddit", but man am I tempted to now.
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51fbce No.804926
>>804503
I think it's unfair to say EMJ is Anti Semetic friend :(
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a4d611 No.804976
>>804503
>>804510
It's an anti semitic, anti feminist religion and if you don't like that you should go back to the synagogue.
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f6fb98 No.804994
>>804510
>>804503
>Church Fathers calling jews whatever;
Hey man calm down your anti semetism a bit. I am starting to have worries.
Imagine what would your reddit friends say if you talked like this among them.
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2d3751 No.805003
>>804503
Why would you have a problem with any of this? Anti- zionism/feminism/multiculturalism/race-mixing/semitism is deeply ingrained into Christianity. It's just fact.
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d68046 No.805005
>>805003
Is /pol/ actually this retarded? Don't you guys read even a tiny bit of the scriptures? What's wrong with you? Some of the saints of the New Testament were mixed race (Timothy, for example). Jesus himself has ancestors of both Gentile and Jewish mix (Tamar, Ruth, etc).
Christianity doesn't care anything about anyone's culture except God's. "My kingdom is not of this world".
It is anti-feminist in the modern sense, but women have never been treated better or shined more brightly than in the church. At least until Protestantism, when they crapped on all notion of sainthood. But they're not Christians.
EMJ is not antisemetic btw. Just because he wants Jews to become Christian doesn't mean he hates them. And he'd be the first to say some of the greatest saints were Jews (Mary and all of the Apostles for one.. and Catholics like St. Teresa of Avila for another).
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2d3751 No.805006
>>805005
>>805005
>Is /pol/ actually this retarded? Don't you guys read even a tiny bit of the scriptures?
Deuteronomy 7:3 You shall not intermarry with them, giving your daughters to their sons or taking their daughters for your sons,
Leviticus 19:19 You shall keep my statutes. You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind. You shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed, nor shall you wear a garment of cloth made of two kinds of material.
Numbers 25:6-8 And behold, one of the people of Israel came and brought a Midianite woman to his family, in the sight of Moses and in the sight of the whole congregation of the people of Israel, while they were weeping in the entrance of the tent of meeting. When Phinehas the son of Eleazar, son of Aaron the priest, saw it, he rose and left the congregation and took a spear in his hand and went after the man of Israel into the chamber and pierced both of them, the man of Israel and the woman through her belly. Thus the plague on the people of Israel was stopped.
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Acts 17:26 And he made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined allotted periods and the boundaries of their dwelling place
Do not mix together what God created to be separate.
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2d3751 No.805008
>>805005
Also antisemitism is really just anti-judaism/calling out the jews for being the synagogue of satan when they do scummy shit.
Has little to do with racism.
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e0a62c No.805009
>>805006
>Do not mix together what God created to be separate.
How in God's name does this work for your OT example?
The israelites were a combined group of levantine natives(who trace their ancestry to a sumerian shepard) and the "mixed multitude" of freed slaves that joined them out of Egypt, that weren't genetically dissimilar from the canaanites, just culturally.
And Deuteronomy 21:10-25:14 allowed them to get foreign brides.
The prohibitions of jews interacting with canaanites have always been interpreted as marking them as monotheists, and because they went full retard polytheists the second they did that, not because of your racial politics.
God didn't care Moses married a midianite and a cushite woman(in fact, he sent leprosy of his siblings for discriminating the latter), or that Solomon banged half the Middle East(but he did care about him being convinced by his wives into worshipping idols)
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e0a62c No.805010
>>805003
>Why would you have a problem with any of this?
If that's the only thing you reduce Christianity to, it becomes redundant.
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4701e8 No.805020
>>805009
On top of all of this literally God tells Jeremiah to tell Israel that they should not only Prosper under the new captors (Babylon) but they should also marry off their children to them and have many children.
Race has never been an issue in the early church, it only became an issue when Protestants made it an issue.
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8eb2fa No.805100
>>805009
No one is claiming your race will save you. That’s a blatant strawman.
It’s also a strawman that most of this board talks about this issue most of the time. That’s not the case.
If someone wants to seek a wife or husband of his/her own race, they can. It just makes more sense. Humans are tribal but this is how God made us. Not as some kind of monoracial Babel.
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5eb507 No.805102
>>805100
I would understand it better if you told me that someone wants a wife from his own country/ethnicity, but his own race? Like if it's any different if i marry a German or Swede than an Asian or Black lmao.
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9fef75 No.805105
>>805100
>If someone wants to seek a wife or husband of his/her own race, they can. It just makes more sense. Humans are tribal but this is how God made us. Not as some kind of monoracial Babel.
And what this have to do with you trying, and failling, to twist OT verses into raising genetic endogamy to religious dogma?
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bea955 No.805162
>>804399
What do you want, Orthodox people to cry after a Catholic cathedral? I wouldn't agree with the statement "cremation of a corpse", but burning it was clearly the work and will of God himself.
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f6fb98 No.805171
>>805005
>Don't you guys read even a tiny bit of the scriptures?
Here we have the muh pol retard again.
God created various peoples. Race mixing creates nothing but quarrels, rootless individuals, destroys the diversity created by God.
I won't even take the bait this time. I have debated you several times on this board and not even once you debated in good faith, you always put yourself on the pedestal as someone who knows "more" for sure.
Meanwhile you are an incarnation of reddit. lol.
Do not forget to cry harder about pol. It is beginning to be entertaining, No matter what anyone says if he does not share your jew loving/race mixing shilling he must be pol.
Ok
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f6fb98 No.805175
>>805162
>What do you want, Orthodox people to cry after a Catholic cathedral
Nope. But if Orthodox churches were burning I would not be glowing over it as the podcast related.
I got a theory though. He is american that converted from catholicism to orthodoxy while going full muh Ukraine mode. So probably that explains a lot about the guy.
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bea955 No.805178
>>805005
>Some of the saints of the New Testament were mixed race (Timothy, for example).
How are Greeks and Jews of a different race? Pic related is what the ancient Israelites used to look like, before the Khazar mixing.
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09c772 No.805183
>>805162
>God wills evil in this world
You LARPers get more and more disgusting everyday. Makes me ashamed of being a cradle Orthodox.
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bea955 No.805184
>>805175
>But if Orthodox churches were burning I would not be glowing over it as the podcast related.
Yes you would lmao. That's exactly what the Vatican did when the Bolsheviks were burning churches in Russia - celebrating and proclaiming how Orthodoxy is the wrong faith, despite it being the work of evil Jews and not of God. Now God (natural accident) has burned Notre Dame.
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bea955 No.805185
>>805183
>Makes me ashamed of being a cradle Orthodox.
Nah, you're just stupid. I'm cradledox too.
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2f0210 No.805191
>>805183
Nothing evil about a satanic building being destroyed, anon.
The relics and statues of the saints are safe, there is nothing to mourn then.
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09c772 No.805195
>>805185
Doubt
We should be seeking unity in christiandom not celebrating when someone burns down a house of God. If someone burned down St. Basil's I would want my brothers in the west to mourn with me. Lack of empathy is no way to get people to evangelize into our faith. It just makes us look cruel.
>>805191
>House of God
>evil
You LARPers make me sick
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4d6d16 No.805203
>>805171
Not him, but…
If you had just mentioned strictly secular motives for strict endogamy, that would have been fine.
But repeatedly, you have tried to do a retarded exegesis of random Old Testament verses, despite being told again and again(including in this thread >>805009 >>805020) that those verses have jack shit to do with your racial autism(or even with basic biology, given how you have kept trying to spin Deuteronomy 22:10, which involves castrated mammals of different SUBFAMILIES, into something about race-mixing).
And when you are called out for it, you either stay silent, or grumble some vague shit and slink into the darkness.
So no, people don't call you a retard because they "promote race-mixing" or whatever other stormfaggot delusions you have, but because you are a cowardly, heretical imbecile.
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bea955 No.805204
>>805195
>want my brothers in the west
Our "brothers" in the West couldn't give a winnie the pooh about us, especially a cradledox should know this. Where was the West when the Jewish Bolsheviks were rampaging across Russia? They were financing the Bolsheviks, lol. Where was the West when the Turks invaded Asia Minor? They sacked Constantinople in 1204 and then warred with Byzantium for the next 100 years. The sooner the West goes to hell the better.
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2f0210 No.805205
>>805195
I'm fine with most Eastern Catholics I know ("most" being the keyword here - I only really know Melkites, and some of them still do believe in the Roman Catholic dogmas about the filioque, sadly), but Roman Catholics who are obedient to their church do not worship God, and their "masses" are offered to nothingness at best and to the Satan at worst.
Their Jesus is not our Jesus and is not the Christian Jesus. I do not say this boastfully - I say this with tears, both because they are perishing and because they are seen as the representatives of Christianity throughout the world.
I wouldn't call the destruction of a satanic worship temple "evil", but I wouldn't call it particularly "good" either. The devil doesn't need buildings to enter the heart of people. The so-called cathedral's partial destruction is not something to mourn or to celebrate. It's simply none of our business. But let us mourn for those who are mourning for it, at least.
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93aedd No.805210
>>805178
I suppose I could agree on mere appearance, but it apparently was worth pointing out in the scriptures. Not only with Timothy's parents, but before that, with the Maccabean conflicts. It was also remarkable enough when Greeks showed up at Jerusalem to speak to Jesus.
"Now there were certain Greeks among those who came up to worship at the feast. Then they came to Philip, who was from Bethsaida of Galilee, and asked him, saying, “Sir, we wish to see Jesus.” Philip came and told Andrew, and in turn Andrew and Philip told Jesus.
But Jesus answered them, saying, “The hour has come that the Son of Man should be glorified. Amen, amen, I say to you, unless a grain of wheat falls into the ground and dies, it remains alone; but if it dies, it produces much grain." -John 12:20-24
They were clearly different, and it set enough of a dramatic landmark in Jesus' ministry that he knew it was finally time to die.. and that his message would eventually spread the earth.
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4d6d16 No.805212
>>805178
>before the Khazar mixing.
I'm still waiting on how mixing with asians is supposed to make someone more curly haired and nose-y, instead of less.
Ashkenazim def don't look like hapas.
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7f4bed No.805231
>>805204
but the pope excommunicated the crusaders who attacked constantinople and there were righteous men who abandoned the crusade as soon as it went the wrong way. One could imagine though, how things would turn out if they didn't chimp out. I mean they defeated CONSTANTINOPLE one of most strongly fortified cities in the world at the time
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fbbad5 No.805238
>>805212
There are more peoples in Asia than just Mongols. The Khazars were considered a Turkic people.
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e021b8 No.805252
>>804399
>cremation of the corpse
This is actually very accurate. The cathedral is a corpse to France's current population. Means nothing to them except a spectacle made by their ancestors. They'd never be able to build something as beautiful because they lack the foundation that led to its creation: adherence to Christ. While, sure, the Cathedral should be rebuilt because it's a significant national monument, the thing that should be rebuilt the most should be France's faith in truth that begets such wondrous monuments as well as a moral peoples.
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4d6d16 No.805364
>>805238
Turkics are asian and look asian, though(with varrying amounts of euro admixture).
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f6fb98 No.805386
>>805203
>But repeatedly, you have tried to do a retarded exegesis of random Old Testament verses, despite being told again and again
That was not me dipshit. But nice try. All I do is say why race mixing is bad for your people and I also think you destroy what God has created. I have never used one verse to "prove race mixing is strictly forbidden".
So keep your autism at bay with calling me a heretic.
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f6fb98 No.805388
>>805191
>t. The eternal american larpthodox
You are truly disgusting.
>>805184
>Yes you would lmao
You seem to project your hatred onto others anon.
Catholics died fighting the communism in Russia en masse.
>Where was the West when the Jewish Bolsheviks were rampaging across Russia?
pic related.
You guys either cry about Jews creating funding communism, which is true, or you blame "the west". You have to pick one because the catholic Europe took a hard stance against communism and unlike you guys…they actually fought off the revolutions in their countries.
So pick one narrative and stick to it. Do not switch according to what suits you, that's a very jewish argumenting style.
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731bae No.805394
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2f0210 No.805397
>>805388
I'm not an American… America is Babylon, I do not want any association with that terrible country.
If you're going to bring nationality into the mix… I'm French. What relevance does it have, however? Me being American or French or Brazilian or Lebanese or Congolese will not turn Catholicism into a Christian religion, and will not turn its idolatrous sacifices into something holy. "Who can bring a clean thing out of an unclean? No one!" (Job 14:4)
Nonetheless, the relics of the saints and their representations on statues and artwork are holy, and I am glad that they were evacuated safely.
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a83569 No.805399
>>805388
>pic related
That's just a picture of some guy loading a rifle, doesn't actually tell us anything.
Notre Dame wasn't being used as a cathedral should have been. Frankly it was being used as a tourist attraction; people were not going there to pray for the most part.
Okay, it's a beautiful medieval building. Okay, it's full of nice art. But that always should be secondary to it's function as a house of God.
I went there and all I saw were tourists.
Perhaps this is a judgement from God. I don't know. But RCs should not be so triggered by this. It's a valid criticism.
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0b1120 No.805401
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>805399
You're one little anecdotal story doesn't replace what happens at Notre Dame every day. If it really was just a tourist trap there wouldn't have been so many faithful Christians out there praying when it was burning down.
So, frankly, you can take your "valid criticism" aka your opinion and shove it, LARPodox.
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2f0210 No.805403
>>805401
The salt in your tears is almost as salty as the salt in the crackers you use for the Eucharist. Please stop.
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f6fb98 No.805404
>>805397
oh it's protestant. Ok my bad.
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f6fb98 No.805406
>>805399
>That's just a picture of some guy loading a rifle, doesn't actually tell us anything.
Look at the uniform idiot
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f6fb98 No.805408
>Okay, it's a beautiful medieval building. Okay, it's full of nice art. But that always should be secondary to it's function as a house of God.
It isn't secondary. The house of God should be beautiful. You talk as if French were dead already and the building was useless. It is a valuable building for French people to rally around and perhaps find their faith again.
Saying "now people do not pray there" as a reason it is ok it burned down is sick. French were brave and faithful to God. post wwii they lost their way as did the rest of western europe but it can be reversed. The issue with you reddit orthodox is that anything western is bad according to you, so it does not matter if it burns down.
Interestingly enough we westerners do not have this attitude. Really makes me think.
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2f0210 No.805411
>>805404
You have no interest in discussion, you only want to insult.
You should judge yourself before God judges you. You do not act in a spirit of charity.
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f6fb98 No.805412
>>805401
Keep in mind you argue with literal reddit ortholarper that did not get why I posted pic related.
>>805184
For weak minded:
When bolsheviks were burning down russia Europeans were dealing with Bolsheviks in their countries, not letting them into power, and later fighting bolshevism in wwii.
Charlemagne division literally held the line in Berlin on1st of may for 24h themselves.
Now you go cry about how europeans are to be blamed for jewish communism in russia, glowing over notre dame being burned down because "people no longer pray there now post wwii hehe"
Ok. I take your point. Just decide who to blame for communism do not play the eternal victim over everything.
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f6fb98 No.805413
>>805411
>literally calls your church a house of satan
>Why you not charitable anon????
>I dindu nuffin
The lack of self reflection is striking
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2f0210 No.805414
>>805413
Hm? There is nothing uncharitable about warning apostates of their apostasy and the demise they're putting themselves into. It is my proper judgment of the situation, even if you disagree completely with it.
You, however, know very well that I am Orthodox and not Protestant. You call me a Protestant solely out of spite and annoyance. This is not your proper judgment, this is just an insult.
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f6fb98 No.805415
>>805414
>It's not an insult to call house of God a house of satan.
>You calling me protestant is a horrible insult.
>oy vey
ok.
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2f0210 No.805417
>>805415
Do you sincerely believe I am lying about being Orthodox? Or do you sincerely believe that Orthodox and Protestants are the same?
If not, this is not your real judgment, but an insult made out of spite.
If it is the case, then let me respond: no, I am not lying about being Orthodox.
As for me, I sincerely believe that Catholics are non-Christians and headed toward eternal torment if they do not convert to Christianity.
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f6fb98 No.805418
>>805183
>>805195
Good to see at least someone sensible being orthodox here.
God bless you anon.
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f6fb98 No.805420
>>805417
I am not claiming you are the same. For a moment I thought I was dealing with a prot because of all the vile hatred towards Church. Ok my bad…a schismatic that has similar hatred towards one true church.
>As for me, I sincerely believe that Catholics are non-Christians
just because you believe it that does not make it true.
Stop playing a victim already. You threw insults first and then you whine. Stop being such a faggot it is not impressive.
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f6fb98 No.805422
>>805417
>>805420
>inb4 I did not insult anyone because I said what i think
>others saying what they think about my opinions is an insult
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2f0210 No.805424
>>805420
>I am not claiming you are the same. For a moment I thought I was dealing with a prot because of all the vile hatred towards Church. Ok my bad…a schismatic that has similar hatred towards one true church.
Most Protestants reject the second council of Nicea. I wouldn't have said the relics and images of the saints are holy if I were a Protestant, you know.
>just because you believe it that does not make it true.
Not an argument.
>Stop playing a victim already. You threw insults first and then you whine. Stop being such a faggot it is not impressive.
I insulted literally nobody in this thread… Are you an American? I notice Americans take everything that ressembles warning or criticism as an insult.
>>others saying what they think about my opinions is an insult
Accusing me of belonging to a group I consider to be non-Christian is an insult. You disagreeing with what I said and calling it retarded isn't an insult.
It is as if I said not that Catholics are outside the bossom of Christianity, but that Catholics are Mohammedians. You wouldn't take that as an insult? I didn't say Catholics weren't Catholics, or that you weren't a Catholic.
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f6fb98 No.805427
>>805424
The things you said classify by YOUR standards as insults. I did not complain about insults first recall that.
>Accusing me of belonging to a group I consider to be non-Christian is an insult
I do not care what you think tbh. I just said what I thought at the time of reading your post. Prostestants have a wide range of beliefs you know.
>. You wouldn't take that as an insult?
I have grown immune to getting sad about "muh insults" the only one crying about it was you. Calling me american for that is laughable.
One last question: If I went around stating Orthodox churches are house of satan(which I have no intention in doing since i do not believe it to be true) would you not take it as an insult yourself?
You literally whine about being lumped with protestants, then call a house of God house of satan.
>but because my opinion counts this is not an insult
As I have said stop being a faggot.
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f6fb98 No.805428
>>805424
>Are you an American? I notice Americans take everything that ressembles warning or criticism as an insult.
Yes…everything would fit on me being american. Even the posting time.
Do you even geography?
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2f0210 No.805430
>>805427
>The things you said classify by YOUR standards as insults. I did not complain about insults first recall that.
No, they do not.
>I do not care what you think tbh. I just said what I thought at the time of reading your post. Prostestants have a wide range of beliefs you know.
Then pay attention to the threads you post in.
>One last question: If I went around stating Orthodox churches are house of satan(which I have no intention in doing since i do not believe it to be true) would you not take it as an insult yourself?
No… Especially since that's already what a lot of Catholics do here, so even if I found that shocking or insulting I would have gotten used to it by now.
You can say that we don't worship Christ, or that we are polytheists, if you want, if that's your genuine judgment. But don't go calling someone a Protestant after properly calling them Orthodox because you dislike what they say.
But it seems that I misunderstood your intentions and you did not originally realize that I was actually Orthodox. I am sorry.
>As I have said stop being a faggot.
You're lucky your so-called eucharist is not the Body and Blood of Christ, or else you would be putting chains of condemnation on yourself like this.
>>805428
I'm talking with somebody who's in Houston right now, you know.
I get it, you're not an American.
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f6fb98 No.805433
>>805430
>You're lucky your so-called eucharist is not the Body and Blood of Christ, or else you would be putting chains of condemnation on yourself like this.
>you would be putting chains of condemnation on yourself like this.
>calls house of God house of satan
ok dude.
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e8c044 No.805534
>>805406
And this is proof of…?
The whites were always low on ammo and Kolchak claimed the West wouldn’t sell them guns.
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d284ee No.805540
>>805401
>millions upon millions of unborn killed
Let’s cry over some destroyed Renaissance art and a cathedral no one prays in.
You need to grow a thicker skin son.
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0f475b No.814865
>>805534
>And this is proof of…?
Europeans were fighting communism dipshit
>The whites were always low on ammo and Kolchak claimed the West wouldn’t sell them guns.
Faggot. This picture has nothing to do with whites and you know it pretty well stop pretending to be retarded. It is just insulting.
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0f475b No.814866
This thread is a living proof of how cancerous larpers on this board are.
Glad to be going here less and less. You do not get to know much about faith this way.
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665cc8 No.814998
>>804529
It hasnt been a house of God since the jacobin revolution, it is property of the state that the Roman Church has the right to use for religious ceremonies.
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665cc8 No.814999
>>805401
they weep for brick and mortar, but who weeps for the pied noirs, who weeps for the minarets, who weeps for the Palm Sunday martyrs?
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72550b No.815035
>>814866
Seriously this, damn LARPerdox makes me feel ashamed to be a cradle orthodox.
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98e7c6 No.815040
>>815035
I’m Catholic and I feel sorry for all the LARPers, no matter the denomination; how they often put blood and ideological points above God and the faith He gave to us: they are like LARPagans, claiming Christianity to be a “cucked/brown/desert” religion…
Not that I’m any better, just glad God spared me from this challenge to my faith.
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0f475b No.815044
>>815040
This. Thousand times.
>>815035
Good to see there are still some sensible people left here.
Kind regards brother
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ad1b14 No.815045
Relevant to this tread.
God bless, anons.
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e14dd0 No.815048
>>804399
>likened it to "cremation of the corpse"
Absolutely based
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629103 No.815074
>>815045
>me good
>you bad
The protestant is holding a flag with an emblem of the SBC which rejects homosexuality and female clergy, by the way. It is the most anti-homo group on the pic
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86d845 No.815081
>>815040
>>815035
Blessed Orthodox saints have said much worse things about Rome.
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86d845 No.815083
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9230d1 No.815208
>radioaryan
>sven lonngshanks
>alt-right and deep-right
no, sorry. absolutely not.
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2bac3e No.815216
>>815083
That verse can apply to all denoms
>Notre Dame burned down? Matthew 7:16
>Communism rose and grew in Orthodox countries? Matthew 7:16
>Liberal degeneracy hailing back to the times of Noah in Freemasonic countries? Matthew 7:16
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9d272f No.816090
>>804408
What's wrong with Geyer? Funny enough his show is what turned my attention to Christ.
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d7a78e No.816585
An actual Orthodox perspective
>When, as it was reported, the disaster, “broken the heart of France” and spontaneously the people chanted Ave Maria and the bells of all the churches and even those of the Abbey of Westemstern were tolling as if it were a funeral. This event has a deeper meaning.
>Teacher Maro Prevelaki, a special scientist of the Sorbonne University, said, “Notre-Dame Cathedral highlighted a strong religious sentiment suppressed by the laïcité and bringing other needs and other values to the foreground.”
>And Evangelos Andrianos, honorary Areopagite, wrote, “The presence of the people who prays, chants, cries in front of his wounded Notre-Dame proves how much the “intellectuals” disregarded the people’s needs and reality by deleting from the European Constitution Christianity as a factor and pillar of European culture.”
Metropolitan Chrysostomos III of Mani
https://www.romfea.news/europe-must-find-its-forgotten-christian-identity-if-europe-wants-to-survive/
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7a390e No.816790
>>816090
Florian and his group are pretty much the only people on the alt-right who takes a stand for Christianity and against abominations like sodomy. I don't agree with him on everything, but he deserves some respect for this. The anons on this bord are just mad because he's orthodox and apparently a "LARPer".
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b717eb No.825143
Nobody knows the symbolism… i cri evrytiem
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3dfe68 No.825150
>>804503
You're not going to last long here lmao
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c54503 No.828024
>>804399
> him saying Notre Dame cathedral is just "middle class bourgeois attraction"
I don't like Matthew Johnson but he's right. It is essentially a tourist attraction and many fear that it will be rebuilt to be even more explicitly a tourist attraction (tourist shops etc).
I've listened to a few of his podcasts and it's usually dishonest takes on why thinker X actually proves Orthodoxy to be right, and then he'll throw in some conspiracy theory that Orthos care about.
I actually like the Orthodox, but they have a terrible internet community and I don't think they produce smart theologians. Jay Dyer is another example of a midwit pseud.
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4d4dd2 No.828044
>>825150
I've been here since the board got founded.
We had bible readings, chapter by chapter analysis of St. Augustine's "Confessions", and making indographics and torrents with recommended reading lists of christian books, subdivided by branch of Christendom.
Now we've been reduced to faggots shilling nobodies with podcasts who's only quality is being edgy, and therefor "based".
Don't make me laugh, all of those i listed above are a joke.
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65ffe8 No.828049
>>828044
Amen. I wouldn't say it's completely reduced, but we're in some strange place where discussion of internet memes somehow holds weight and are treated as serious contributions to Church life.
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04eadc No.828050
>>828024
MRJ isn't Orthodox. He's an Old Calendarist schismatic. No relation to the Church. It's like citing the Dimond Brothers to make a point against the Roman Catholic church - you're talking about an entirely separate group of people.
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77013c No.828626
>>816790
If that's the case, good. I've been a longtime supporter of Vox Day because he's one of the few on the Right that recognizes the importance of Christianity.
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5505e1 No.828645
>>828044
>We had bible readings, chapter by chapter analysis of St. Augustine's "Confessions", and making indographics and torrents with recommended reading lists of christian books, subdivided by branch of Christendom.
Bruh, is there a way we can get those back again? I wasn't here at the beginning but that sounds amazing.
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4d4dd2 No.828651
>>828645
Unlikely.
We had standards back then.
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