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63af60  No.803959

"Witnesses say that when the prince arrived in Athos days after the death of Princess Diana almost seven years ago, it was Ephraim who induced him to join the faith. Closeted in a chamber alone with the abbot, Charles is believed to have made a "spiritual commitment" to Christian Orthodoxy"

>Prince Charles, the heir to the British throne and future head of the Anglican Church, is Ortho

I… what…?

uh, thoughts?

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e9404e  No.803960

Good on him. Anglicans and Orthos were close to patching things up before:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglican_and_Eastern_Churches_Association

maybe Anglicans will have some hope of getting less pozzed now.

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681855  No.803961

Let us pray that England may begome.

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2050ec  No.803966

File: 2e5c34ddc3db002⋯.jpg (49.76 KB, 474x685, 474:685, 62a3e9dfc90fb85a11c9f8933b….jpg)

It'd be great if he renewed the Church of England under Orthodoxy. I could only hope. His family has ties to it though. His father (Prince Phillip) was also baptized in the Orthodox church due to living in Macedonia/Greece, and Phillip's mother Princess Alice became a nun (and helped start an order) when she was widowed.

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6059e1  No.803973

People have said similar things based on his connection to Islam and eastern religions. You wont find anything from him beyond the usual ecumenical nonsense

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d11f7c  No.803974

>>803973

No

Orthodoxy and Anglicanism have a history and before 70s there was a chance to establish eucharistic union. In addition, Charles is head of organizations of "friends of mount Athos" or something like that.

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6059e1  No.803984

>>803974

> In addition, Charles is head of organizations of "friends of mount Athos" or something like that.

He is a patron which essentially amounts to giving it publicity.His is also the patron of the Jewish Museum and World Jewish Relief organisations. Likewise if you look through his list of patronages he has a whole slew of them for preservation of historical christian buildings and sites.

>there was a chance to establish eucharistic union

Not to say that is not true but Im highly skeptical of that claim given the liberalising the Anglicans were going through around that time period and that they didnt even have consensus regarding the real presence.

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66d2df  No.803990

Prince Charles is an islamizer. He made an institute for islamic studies among other things.

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66d2df  No.803991

Anyone interested in the information above should read the book by Mark Sedgewick.

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56ba91  No.804065

>>803987

They're also involved with freemasonry.

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63af60  No.804072

>>803973

Yeah but this time he apparently literally converted, has houses full of icons, frequents Mt. Athos, meets with Patriarchs…

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63af60  No.804073

>>803987

Generally, but the Royal Family aren't really elites since the 50s. They meet whoever they're told to if told to, due to the Queen forcing them due to muh constitutionalism, and so forth.

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0d34cb  No.804074

>>804006

>everyone I don't like is pedophile

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afe1ba  No.804095

I don't have enough solid evidence that "elites are pedophiles" except the circles they sometimes ran in. They should be wiser on who they're friends with, but associations don't make one guilty. One can go crazy thinking that elites are pedos just because of that. I'm definitely open minded to any evidence, but I don't want to be like David Icke or some Qanon people who make huge leaps about anyone and everyone famous, without any evidence.

Same goes with Freemason stuff. I've been hearing that from Catholics for a long time in order to smear the King James bible. When you can use a Strong's numbering system and compare KJV's renderings for yourself if it actually constitutes anything nefarious. It's just a translation!!! Ugh. And a good one at that.

As for Charles, he actually has a history in his family with Orthodoxy. As I pointed out earlier, his dad was baptized Orthodox and part of the Greek royal family. His grandmother also part of the Greek royal family, and then became a nun in widowhood.

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cb8c79  No.804103

I saw his helicopter when i was in Athos. He's friends with the abbot of Vatopedi monastery.

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e9404e  No.804113

>>804095

>I'm definitely open minded to any evidence, but I don't want to be like David Icke or some Qanon people who make huge leaps about anyone and everyone famous, without any evidence.

look into the Jimmy Savile case and the Franklin cover-up story.

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c20c40  No.804137

>>804113

I know about that, but there's no evidence of Charles himself doing what Savile did. Besides, he doesn't look like the brightest bulb on the planet, and maybe was just duped like many in the UK about Savile's harmlessness.

It's one thing to say he was friends with a scumbag and should be questioned about it… But another to think there's an elite vampiric pedo cabal (that also eats the pineal glands of frightened children and lives off of adrenochrome). If that's all true, people need to build a more airtight case and not just fuel themselves off of suspicions.

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cb8c79  No.804375

File: 664f91a7e4d5b8d⋯.jpg (32.89 KB, 400x533, 400:533, 59334942_10216245552349785….jpg)

For you OP

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9aafbb  No.804380

Prince Charles has Perennialist sympathies so he is more or less benevolent to every traditional religion.

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fc784a  No.804397

>>804380

Mmmh…Guenon 2: Royal Anglo Bogaloo

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b98b1b  No.804404

File: f1674301981ec72⋯.jpg (57.19 KB, 503x550, 503:550, 1556985464707.jpg)

>Trusting current English elite

Be my guest then.

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60fd66  No.804477

>>804198

I don't need 100% proof. Just a better case than this. I don't even think he has accusers (does he?). Even "he said, she said" cases are on shaky ground, but this doesn't even reach that paltry level.

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60fd66  No.804479

>>804477

Oh, for the record, I'm not trying to be a hardass skeptic about this. I'm someone who thinks there's something to the pedogate stuff, for example. There's obviously some strange code in Pedosta's emails. And his associations (like James Alefantis) also have photographs of some disturbing things. There's something strange with Washington elites. If there's some equivalent evidence on Charles, I'd be willing to look at it. I just haven't seen anything.

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241115  No.804770

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>>804479

The only thing Prince Charles is guilty of is being a goober and a lukewarm in the religion his family is owner of.

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3c1563  No.816446

He is also, IIRC a traditionalist in the vein of Guenon, having started a traditionalist community and being the patron of a traditionalist journal.

I honestly cannot wait for Charles to become the British monarch.

He will hopefully return Anglicanism to Orthodoxy, and Britain to something of it's former self.

ALL HAIL BRITTANIA

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f426e2  No.816452

File: 81e5da822d24c50⋯.jpg (65.13 KB, 820x550, 82:55, Julie_Burchill.jpg)

>>816446

A-anon, I…

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1a6519  No.816462

>>816446

>He is also, IIRC a traditionalist in the vein of Guenon

So he's going to convert to Islam lel.

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aab8e6  No.816545

>>816446

>Rene Guenon

>Occult-Gnostic French Freemason who smoked Opium to meditate and studied Hinduism and converted to Islam because it was more compatible to Western Society than Hinduism

No wonder NRX and Trads are retarded.

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ab4256  No.816627

File: 4cbbc9c8d809de7⋯.jpg (19.8 KB, 346x350, 173:175, Rene-guenon-1925.jpg)

>>816545

He wasn't a Gnostic, rather he repudiated them. It's true he had ties to Freemasonry early in life but later wrote a book against them. His conversion to Sufism is my only contention with the man, regardless he was extremely learned in world religions.

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c20bcf  No.816646

File: a362e84cf23c42f⋯.jpg (18.24 KB, 300x476, 75:119, 9782723301466-fr-300.jpg)

>>816627

> His conversion to Sufism is my only contention with the man

kek

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fc784a  No.816731

>>816646

What are the thesis and consideration/conclusions on it in the book? Or are you judging it by its title alone?

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c20bcf  No.816751

>>816731

Basically shows the ties that Guénon had with Catholics that first were interested in his critique of theosophy, but also that they strongly rejected his metaphysics and even himself became a bit of a persona non grata due to his antirational orientalism.

Also shows his ties with esoteric sects, which are far from being anecdotical but rather intrinsically tied with his philosophical views (Maritain said in 1921, when he was still quite orthodox and not hostile to him, that "Guénon's metaphysics are radically inconciliable with the Catholic Faith".).

If you are interested in world religions and Primordial Revelation from an orthodox Catholic point of view, I'd like to suggest you Wilhelm Schmidt SVD.

If you read French or German, there also is Paul Schebesta SVD (Le sens religieux des primitifs / Ursprung der Religion).

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b819f6  No.816754

>>803959

Isn't this the guy who said he should have the title 'defender of the faiths' plural, because 'defender of the faith' was offensive?

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789576  No.816756

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af2ef5  No.816982

Who cares? The royal family matters so little in the grand scheme of things now that they’re basically LARPing as more important versions of themselves (although I might have a bias being an American)

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91dbea  No.819647

>>803974

I keep holding onto a somewhat foolish hope we'll live to see traditionalist Anglicans become the "British Orthodox" instead, and let the pozzed faction just go merrily to hell without them.

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b2c23c  No.819758

He wants to change Defender of the Faith to Defender of the Faiths. Like all religions in including Islam.

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b44796  No.828036

>>816646

>>816751

Jean Borella has written a very good critique of Guenon from an orthodox Catholic perspective.

Guenon should be considered for his critique of modernity but his perennialism has a bunch of holes in it even though it's easy to be seduced by his authoritative tone and comfy esoteric prose.

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718a4a  No.828065

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>>828036

Seraphim Rose

>It so happens that Rene Guenon was the chief influence in the formation of my own intellectual outlook (quite apart from the question of Orthodox Christianity). I read and studied with eagerness all his books that I could get a hold of; through his influence I studied ·the ancient Chinese language and resolved to do for the Chinese tradition what he had done for the Hindu; I was even able to meet and study with a genuine representative of the Chinese tradition and understood full well what he means by the difference between such authentic teachers and the mere “professors” who teach in the universities.

>It was Rene Guenon who taught me to seek and love the Truth above all else, and to be unsatisfied with anything else; this is what finally brought me to the Orthodox Church. Perhaps a word of my experience will be of help for you to know.

>For years in my studies I was satisfied with being “above all traditions” but somehow faithful to them; I only went deeper into the Chinese tradition because no one had presented it in the West from a fully traditional point of view.When I visited an Orthodox Church, it was only in order to view another “tradition”-knowing that Guenon (and one of his disciples) had described Orthodoxy as the most authentic of the Christian traditions.

>However, when I entered an Orthodox Church for the first time (a Russian Church in San Francisco), something happened to me that I had not experienced in any Buddhist or other Eastern temple; something in my heart said that this is “home,” that all my search was over. I didn’t really know what.. this meant, because the service was quite strange to me, and in a foreign language. I began to attend Orthodox services more frequently, gradually learning its language and customs, but still keeping all my basic Guenonion ideas about all the authentic spiritual traditions.”

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0d6718  No.828348

>>828065

Source please ! Do he says something else ?

>>803959

Some monks that witnessed it in Vatopedi told me he cried after meeting Joseph of Vatopedi with a paper full of questions.

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