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72cb91  No.802654

Can I just go be a monk for like a year without having to lie and say I'm discerning? I just wanna take a break from the world

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33c5f3  No.802657

It's called a spiritual retreat. You live with the monks for a time but aren't taking any vows. I don't know if they will let you stay for a whole year, but I don't speak on behalf of any. Just look up the local monestary and ask them yourself.

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72cb91  No.802659

>>802657

Aren't those usually done by groups of normies though? I don't want normies bringing me down

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33c5f3  No.802667

>>802659

Did you just call monks "normies"? Seriously? You do need a break from the world. God help you

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2fa29c  No.802671

>>802667

I think he was referring to the people that go on those retreats, lol. But either way OP, until you're an actual monk, you'll still be a 'normie' yourself, so I wouldn't be casting stones. Everyone has to follow the same monastic practices and schedules during those anyway (as far as I know), so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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72cb91  No.802672

>>802667

>reading comprehension

No, people who go on retreats are the normies. (I assume) I just want to do it alone with the monks, not in some tourist group.

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0e9c18  No.802673

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>>802654

You can actually do that if your heart is in the right place and if you know how to act right. Make contact with the local community and discuss it. Good luck negotiating the room and board.

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92db85  No.802712

Do you have to become a monk inorder to retreat from the world?

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05ab9c  No.802719

>>802712

Nope, you can venture into the wilderness and become a hermit if you want to.

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91d3b9  No.802741

>>802712

anyone can do it you just have to work out how to live without wageslaving.

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c08fc2  No.802779

The sins of the world are all the more pronounced and visible in a monastery, the only differences is that there are fewer distractions from dealing with them.

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1caaf6  No.802790

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>>802654

>I just wanna take a break from the world

Why not go on a pilgrimage instead?

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131f7f  No.802791

>>802790

how much would something like that cost?

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f062b0  No.802805

>>802654

You can become a novice I think which is a monk in training. Also maybe you just want to go on a pilgrimage to a monastery and tell them you seek spiritual guidance.

Get the elder's advice.

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ffa915  No.816601

Almost 2 months after but up you go :^)

>>802791

Depends, you can go with nothing and do it trusting the Providence, like St Benedict Joseph Labre.

If not expect about 5€ in food a day if you do the Camino de Santiago

>Breakfast

Milk (0,5€) + oats (0,8€/kg)

>Lunch

Sardines or tuna (~2€)

A big salad from a supermarket (~2€)

>Dinner

Fruit from trees (0€)

>>802805

Nice idea, monasteries usually have shelters for pilgrims you can stay there, pray with them and ask for guidance. Or you could rent a room and help them financially.

But if you're only "for taking a break" I'm afraid that just won't work, at least in my country monasteries get like 100 requests a year and monks say you can count the true monks with one hand, without using all of the fingers; they won't take anyone not serious for a discernment

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4694b6  No.816604

>>816601

Interesting. I suppose you can find a bed in a pilgrims hostel for about 5€ a night? So if you do the 30-day pilgrimage it'll be

300 € + perhaps some 250€ extra cash + the tickets from wherever you are to Spain/Southern France. You think that's enough?

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ffa915  No.816609

>>816604

Yeah, pilgrim shelter are around 6-10€ and the private ones well, +10€.

There's some "free" shelters (Federación de Asociaciones de Amigos del Camino y Hospitaleros Voluntarios)

you can give whatever you want or offer your help in anything they need so if you want to spend less organize around them; it really depends whether you would like to be comfortable or not.

You could also sleep in the forest for free :^) (sometimes shelters are full, they might open a Sports centre or something for pilgrims but if not… The French way in summer is packed but it's the best time so SLEEPING BAG is a must. Tent if you're scared of spiders)

I've seen some business that organize your trip but it's expensive and really kills all the experience.

Around 550€ on your pocket I'd say that's enough, like I said depends on how "comfy" you want to be; if you think you can go on a similar diet like the one I posted, try eating it for a week or two and see if its adequate for your energy consumption

Some public shelters offer dinner and breakfast, the one I recall was 9€ and 4€ respectively.

The supermarket diet is the best as you see. You can also buy lentils or whatever and prepare it at the shelter.

For drinking in the way a river or a fountain, remember to check if it's drinkable.

You also can ask people in the villages/towns for food, if you're lucky to find anyone charitable

REMEMBER to choose a season where the fruit you like is growing and TO PREPARE PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY, the book "imitation of Christ" is capital to carry I think.

I recall reading that "the average pilgrim spends 30€ a day" yeah, dumb pilgrims

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ffa915  No.816610

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>>816609

And a water bottle to refill of course!

Peanuts or nuts for breakfast or during the way are very nutritive

!!!! Important to visit the Oviedo cathedral (San Salvador cathedral). There's and old saying

>Quien va a Santiago y no al Salvador/ visita al criado y no al Señor

Something like

>whoever goes to Santiago and not to el Salvador (Saviour)/ visits the servant and not the Lord

May God protect and bless you, christanon, godspeed

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535abf  No.816764

>>802672

>>802659

I don't think you need to worry about anyone devout enough on retreat being a 'normie'.

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e2b9dc  No.816772

>>816610

Thanks, my brother! I hope I manage to go next year, after my Confirmation.

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9a843c  No.830248

YES! I must do this too

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267f50  No.830256

>>802654

you can, but if you're gonna stay that long, you'll probably be sharing in their labour. I have never done it though.

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abbbf1  No.830308

I'd like to be a hermit.

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