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Q provides cryptic numeric clues suggests there is a map involved, much head scratching ensues therefore a guide to help out there.
Let's consider the simple numeric sequence 5+10+15=30 what could this mean we ask ourselves and in terms of known quantities it could refer to a month or the orbital period of Saturn, given an interesting conjugation of the latter took place at the Winter solstice perhaps that, but it can be realized that others have had an interest in the same sequence, to wit the Hebrews and their schematic of Israel and the Heavenly Temple.
They were fond of laying out the twelve tribal patriarchs around squares whether in desert encampments or idealized Heavenly cities and indeed the Christian Book of Revelations also ends with the Heavenly Temple becoming established upon Earth, but what is really meant by that?
The Hebrew mathematics are very clever, they involve the numbers 1 to 13 excluding 11 who in the Genesis narrative is understood as the 11th born child of Israel a daughter, namely Dinah, thus the narrative was written with sums in mind, but there was a much earlier basis for this tradition of the Heavenly Square, to the Sumerians it was the Field Constellation or Pegasus square and it was a basic unit of measure that could be subdivided, thus a basis of mathematics also and as a field the sum of all elements of creation, a periodic table as it were, from it Enki and Ninhursag were understood to have produced life and indeed planted a tree of such within it that extended through the constellations upwards towards Sirius.
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76e33a No.257674
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>>257655
Nazi/Nance the Goddess of National Socialism;
>She is concerned for the orphan and concerned for the widow. She does not forget the man who helps others, she is a mother for the orphan; Nance, a carer for the widow, who always finds advice for the debt-slave; the lady who gives protection for refugees. She seeks out a place for the weak. She swells his collecting basket for him; she makes his collecting vessel profitable for him. For the righteous maiden who has taken her path, Nance chooses a young man of means. Nance raises a secure house like a roof over the widow who could not remarry
As Goddess of the birds and fishes of the marshlands at the top of the Persian Gulf she also relates to the constellation Pisces in it's entirety, alongside Aquarius/En-ki, this raises correlation to Inanna who equates with the Fish of Pisces/Anunitum, but Nazi as daughter of En-ki relates to the physical and Inanna of the En-lil side of the Pantheon spiritual qualities, they can be reconciled.
>Enki placed his daughter Nanse in charge of the shrine Sirara because it sat over the wide extent of the marsh and she had influence over the high flood of subterranean waters. Nanse was known as 'she who sets sail', and 'she who induces sexual intercourse'. She was her father's daughter.
The cult of Nazi relocated after her City was trashed by the Elamites;
>The city of Nanše, Niĝin, was delivered to the foreigners. Sirara, her beloved dwelling, was handed over to the evil ones. "Alas, the destroyed city, my destroyed house," she cried bitterly. Its sacred Ĝipar of en priesthood was defiled. Its en priest was snatched from the Ĝipar and carried off to enemy territory.
http://www.tellsurghul.org/Area_D.html
The cult of Nina/Nigin in fact re-established itself at Nina/Nineveh, and was thus the basis for Istar of Nineveh;
> The name Nina, was borne also by the goddess Ishtar, whose worship was the special cult of Nineveh, and Ninua may well be a hypocoristicon of Nina,. The ideogram for Nineveh, as also for the Lagash city is a fish enclosed in the sign for house, possibly indicating a fish-pond, sacred to Ishtar.
https://deepblue.lib.umich.edu/bitstream/handle/2027.42/77489/Ishtar.pdf?sequence=1
https://theodora.com/encyclopedia/n/nineveh.html
At the time this was established Nineveh was a Hurrian City and indeed it is Istar of Nineveh that is given in Hurrian texts as the destroyer of Ebla over the issue of debt slavery, also of course the Atargatis mythology relates to this aspect of Nina.
In terms of her tradition of giving oracles and dream interpretation that became the forte of the closely related cult of Istar of Arbela;
>Nanshe had the ability to give oracular messages and determine the future through dream interpretation (Oneiromancy). Her priests were also granted these abilities after conducting a ritual that represented death and resurrection.
When one considers her cult it is also clear that the role of the daughter of Enki was a major facet of the Christian message in conjunction with that of the shepherd King son of Enki, theologians have long noticed the essential pairing of a God of the pastoralists and the fisherman cult, when this is seen in conjunction with being a friend to tax collectors, fornicators, orphans and widows and helping the poor and needy on the margins of society it is clear that is the cult of Nazi who first stepped out of the warm waters of the Persian gulf over four thousand years previously.
In fact Nazi relocated again to the shores of Galilee;
>Perhaps the most prominent physical landmark around the Sea of Galilee is towering Mount Arbel. Mount Arbel is located near the sea’s western shore in the vicinity of ancient Magdala, home of Mary Magdalene.
>There are many caves in the cliff, some of them were used as a fort. Under the cliff, on the right side, are the ruins of the Roman city of Arbela.
Her magic involved water…
>The word of Ištar of Arbela to Esarhaddon, king of Assyria:
>Come, gods, my fathers and brothers, enter the covenant . . .She placed a slice . of bread on the terrace and gave them water from a cooler to drink. She filled a flagon of one seah with water from the cooler and gave it to them with the words:
>"In your hearts say, 'Ištar is slight,' and you will go to your cities and districts, eat your bread and forget this covenant.
But when you drink from this water, you will remember me and keep this covenant which I have made *"
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73bfd5 No.257676
>>257674
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nabu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Nebo
Exodus 4:10-16
The Old Testament uses three Hebrew words that are translated into the English word "prophet" or "seer": nabi, roeh, and hozeh.
Nabi literally means "to bubble up." It describes one who is stirred up in spirit. It is the most frequently used of the three by the Hebrew writers. When the sense of "bubbling up" is applied to speaking, it becomes "to declare." Hence, a nabi, or a prophet, is an announcer—one who pours forth the declarations of God.
Roeh means "to see" or "to perceive." It is generally used to describe one who is a revealer of secrets, one who envisions.
Hozeh also means "to see" or "to perceive," but is also used in reference to musicians. It is also used to describe a counselor or an advisor to a king. The Hebrew does not necessarily indicate that the person is a prophet, but rather an advisor—someone who has wisdom. It means "one who has insight." The translators try to indicate whether the message is spiritual. If it is spiritual, then they tend to translate hozeh as "prophet." If it does not give any indication of being spiritually generated, then they would render it "advisor" or "counselor.”
In the Greek language, a prophet is simply "one who speaks for another"—one who speaks for a god, and so interprets the god's will to the people. Hence, the essential meaning in Greek is "interpreter."
https://www.biblewheel.com/GR/GR_63.php
nabiy' {naw-bee'} from 05012; TWOT - 1277a; n m AV - prophet 312, prophecy 1, them that prophesy 1, prophet + 0376 1, variant 1; 316 1) spokesman, speaker, prophet 1a) prophet 1b) false prophet 1c) heathen prophet
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76e33a No.257677
>>257650
The search for Damu, the swine constellation/Delphinus, son of En-Ki and a product of Nin-Isin's medical facility…
>Damu is a Sumerian god, documented since the period of the Third Dynasty of Ur. He had a cult in Isin, where he was called the son of the local tutelary goddess, Ninisina. Damu is also considered the son of Urash, another name for Ninhursag-Ki, the Great Mother Earth, and Enki, god of Wisdom, Magick and the sweet fertilizing waters of the deep, the Abzu, as well as a younger, childlike version of Dumuzi the archetypal Lover and Divine Bridegroom of Mesopotamia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damu
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73bfd5 No.257678
>>257677
sWINE Roman geographer Pomponius Mela called the islands Orcades, as did Tacitus in 98 AD, claiming that his father-in-law Agricola had "discovered and subjugated the Orcades hitherto unknown"[13][14] (although both Mela and Pliny had previously referred to the islands.[12]) Etymologists usually interpret the element orc- as a Pictish tribal name meaning "young pig" or "young boar".[Notes 3][16] Speakers of Old Irish referred to the islands as Insi Orc "island of the pigs".[17][18] The archipelago is known as Ynysoedd Erch in modern Welsh and Arcaibh in modern Scottish Gaelic, the -aibh representing a fossilized prepositional case ending.
The Anglo-Saxon monk Bede refers to the islands as Orcades insulae in his seminal work Ecclesiastical History of the English People.[19]
Norwegian settlers arriving from the late ninth century reinterpreted orc as the Old Norse orkn "seal" and added eyjar "islands" to the end[20] so the name became Orkneyjar "Seal Islands". The plural suffix -jar was later removed in English leaving the modern name "Orkney". According to the Historia Norwegiæ, Orkney was named after an earl called Orkan.[21]
The Norse knew Mainland Orkney as Megenland "Mainland" or as Hrossey "Horse Island".[22] The island is sometimes referred to as Pomona (or Pomonia), a name that stems from a sixteenth-century mistranslation by George Buchanan, which has rarely been used locally.[23][24]
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76e33a No.257679
>>257676
But Nebo was a Semitic upstart that took over Nisaba's role, nb a contraction;
>The god of wisdom, Enki, organized the world after creation and gave each deity a role in the world order. Nisaba was named the scribe of the gods, and Enki then built her a school of learning so that she could better serve those in need. She keeps records, chronicles events, and performs various other bookwork-related duties for the gods. She is also in charge of marking regional borders.
>She is the chief scribe of Nanshe. On the first day of the new year, she and Nanshe work together to settle disputes between mortals and give aid to those in need. Nisaba keeps a record of the visitors seeking aid and then arranges them into a line to stand before Nanshe, who will then judge them. Nisaba is also seen as a caretaker for Ninhursag's temple at Kesh, where she gives commands and keeps temple records.
>As the goddess of writing and teaching, she was often praised by Sumerian scribes. Many clay-tablets end with the phrase “Nisaba be praised”
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76e33a No.257680
>>257678
The Greeks of course also interpreted the swine constellation as a Dolphin and the basis for the Delphic oracle, seal isn't entirely unreasonable though in terms of curious hybrid.
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76e33a No.257716
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>>257678
To put the Delphinus/Damu principle into full context, it is the upwardly rising principle from beneath the waters, the principle that raised the land of the Pegasus square and that of the upwardly rising sap of the tree, Hindu tradition covers this in the Varaha mythos;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varaha
There was a lot of correlation between the Indus valley culture and that of Lagash state as they had strong trade connections through the Gulf, Indra correlates to Nindara consort of Nanse, Vishnu to Hendursaja, her accomplice and brother of Nindara, Nanse herself formed the basis for Lakshmi.
The boar was understood as the third incarnation of Vishnu after the fish and turtle, which are also often seen on Dilmun seals as the helpers of Enki, the third principle then and that of the Divine child is the land emerging from the waters, these also the deepest aspects of the cult of Istar of Nineveh.
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cfd418 No.257887
>>257680
carrie fisher was a trannY. wonder Y they are worshipped by some. something fishY about this. boy/girl ? sith lord and honeY boo-boo make the same hand signs?
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578723 No.257900
>>257677
In the Egyptian language, papyrus was called wadj (w3ḏ), tjufy (ṯwfy), or djet (ḏt).
The name Wadjet[5] is derived from the term for the symbol of her domain, Lower Egypt, the papyrus.[6]
Her name means "papyrus-colored one",[7] as wadj is the Ancient Egyptian word for the color green (in reference to the color of the papyrus plant) and the et is an indication of her gender. Its hieroglyphs differ from those of the Green Crown (Red Crown) of Lower Egypt only by the determinative, which in the case of the crown was a picture of the Green Crown[8] and, in the case of the goddess, a rearing cobra.
The Going Forth of Wadjet was celebrated on December 25 with chants and songs."
Osiris was considered not only a merciful judge of the dead in the afterlife, but also the underworld agency that granted all life, including sprouting vegetation and the fertile flooding of the Nile River. He was described as the "Lord of love",[11] "He Who is Permanently Benign and Youthful"[12] and the "Lord of Silence".[13] The Kings of Egypt were associated with Osiris in death – as Osiris rose from the dead so would they in union with him, and inherit eternal life through a process of imitative magic. By the New Kingdom all people, not just pharaohs, were believed to be associated with Osiris at death, if they incurred the costs of the assimilation rituals.[14]
Through the hope of new life after death, Osiris began to be associated with the cycles observed in nature, in particular vegetation and the annual flooding of the Nile, through his links with the heliacal rising of Orion and Sirius at the start of the new year.[12]
He was classically depicted as a green-skinned deity
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76e33a No.258013
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d455e0 No.258113
>>258013
Meaning: The was scepter was a visual representation of the concept of "power" or "dominion." Naturally, its earliest depictions in Egyptian art found it in the hands of the gods and goddesses. The scepter was often also carried by the pharaohs. In later periods, it was sometimes shown in the mortuary portraits of private persons. To the right, a harp player performs for the god Horus who is seated inside a shrine. The shrine's roof is upheld by was scepters.
Variations on the was scepter were found in the hands of Osiris and Ptah. In their hands, the was scepter was combined with the ankh and djed.
"Was sceptres were used as symbols of power or dominion, and were associated with the gods (such as Set or Anubis)[2] as well as with the pharaoh. Was sceptres also represent the Set animal (the totem of the Egyptian deity Set). In later use, it was a symbol of control over the force of chaos that Set represented."
i'm always impressed by how little you say, and how much you imply. the ratio is the mark of a master. all the pieces are there. puzzling it all slowly but with great determination.
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76e33a No.258135
>>258113
Well i outlined the basis for death and destruction at the Cosmological level and the entire board exploded and died and we currently find ourselves floating adrift in the Asteroid belt, so perhaps one can say too much.
But with regards to staffs, these were the symbols of office of viziers the foremost of which was Ninshubur as Orion, who as Orion represented the interests of Anu as the Bull of Heaven/Taurus and Inanna the Pleiades, the inter-mediary of Heaven and Earth.
The staff then represents the authority to act on behalf of those Divine forces and aspects of nature, for example it had the power to command the storm, but of course different staffs represented different Divinities and aspects of nature.
http://www.academia.edu/252789/The_Staff_of_Ninsubura
Even when held by a King in the role of Dumuzid that was still the symbol of the inter-mediary with the power to represent the interests of the Heavens, to be a shepherd to the people.
>Ninsubur, the good minister of E-ana, clasps him by his right hand and brings him in bliss to Inana's embrace: "May the lord whom you have chosen in your heart, the king, your beloved husband, enjoy long days in your holy and sweet embrace! Give him a propitious and famous reign, give him a royal throne of kingship on its firm foundation, give him the sceptre to guide the Land, and the staff and crook, and give him the righteous headdress and the crown which glorifies the head! From the rising of the sun to the setting of the sun, from the south to the north, from the upper sea to the lower sea, from where the halub tree grows to where the cedar grows, over all Sumer and Akkad, grant him the staff and the crook!
>May he act as shepherd of the black-headed inhabitants; may he, like a farmer, make the fields productive; may he make the sheepfolds multiply, like a trustworthy shepherd.
>"May high flood-waters flow in the Tigris and Euphrates, may the grasses grow tall on their banks, and may the meadows be covered. May the holy lady Nisaba pile high the grain heaps and mounds. My lady, queen of heaven and earth, queen who encompasses heaven and earth, may he enjoy long days …… embrace."
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section4/tr40830.htm
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c0eee9 No.258163
>>258135
Wazir may refer to:
Vizier, vazir or wazir, a high-ranking official, such as the Chief Minister of Muslim regimes starting with the Abbasid Caliphate.
A vezér is a Hungarian high-ranking official or leader; may originate from the verb "vezet" (‘to lead’).
Wazir (chess), a fairy chess piece that moves one space in an orthogonal direction"
when is a scepter a sept r? when is is Set.
have you heard of the gizeh death star theory?
https://gizadeathstar.com/
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c0eee9 No.258167
>>258135
looks like we just keep coming back to the renegade pharaoh and his mono-mania.
Three of the 14th century BC Amarna letters, Akkadian cuneiform correspondence found in Egypt, mention Subari as a toponym. All are addressed to Akhenaten; in two (EA 108 and 109), Rib-Hadda, king of Byblos, complains that Abdi-Ashirta, ruler of Amurru, had sold captives to Subari, while another (EA 100), from the city of Irqata, also alludes to having transferred captured goods to Subari.
. . .
that 108 again:
If the king, the Sun, desires, they will be taken in a day. Moreover, has he [n]o[t] plotted evils [upon evils a]gainst you, and rev[olted? A]nd as for the man of [my] god, 'Apiru came from Sumur to take him prisoner, but I did not give him up. May the [k]ing he[ed] the words of his servant. Send me [2]0 men from Meluhha and 20 men from Egypt-(named 'Mizri'-see Mizraim), to guard the city for the king, the Sun, my lord. (I am)-Your loyal se[rvan]t. "
. . .
sbra also seems. . .ambivalent sexually, no one is confident if it is a man or woman. both references are used. it's like history is on repeat with trannys back in the white house with obama. this is a deep game indeed. Khazars and kurds related? yezidis? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X3MkfAvGfeA
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76e33a No.258186
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>>258163
Yes you may well be right about the Was sceptre being the actual basis for the term vizier and there was concern with gender ambivalence in the cult of Venus as Masculine Morning star and Feminine Evening star, it related to metaphysics and serpents standing upright.
The land of Shubar was Hurrian, the Akkadians weren't happy with the thought of a Trans-Caucasian lady effectively running the Universe and changed the designation of Orion to the vizier of some obscure war God named Zababa, in terms of Pap-sukkal.
>The land of Subartu (Akkadian Šubartum/Subartum/ina Šú-ba-ri, Assyrian mât Šubarri) or Subar (Sumerian Su-bir4/Subar/Šubur) is mentioned in Bronze Age literature. Subartu may have been in the general sphere of influence of the Hurrians.
>The name also appears as Subari in the Amarna letters, and, in the form Šbr, in Ugarit, and came to be known as the Hurrians or Subarians and their country was known as Subir, Subartu or Shubar.
>Subartu was apparently a polity in Northern Mesopotamia, at the upper Tigris. Most scholars accept Subartu as an early name for Assyria proper on the Tigris, although there are various other theories placing it sometimes a little farther to the east, north or west of there.
Is the Giza death star thing related to Joseph Farrell?
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3ac18e No.258195
>>258186
i am breaking through faster in my research by reading this thread than i have in years. it all seems connected indeed. so this ties in to me (Subartu as a northern kingdom), with the chaldean emphasis on drawing martial power from the north. then orion and baal seem related to holy grail symbolism, mormon Kolob, minoan bull worship, hathor. . . .many things. so based on our discussion i was just reading a book about asherah:
http://www.jhsonline.org/reviews/reviews_new/review288.htm
and, in addition to looking at the glosses i was looking at the semitic roots themselves while reading. this is what flashed with me intuitively. baal is linked both to EL/saturn and a bull. the 'divine right of kings' ritual to conceive an heir is a sex ritual with a chalice of collected semen that asherah is not supposed to behold, for whatever reason. i always thought the labyrinth deal was sex related. i also believe that what some call 'the assumption of godforms' (a bull for example), is still taught and practiced by quasi-secret groups to this day, quite probably in conjunction with sex rituals. i then add that in to the masonic/babylon matrix and all the stuff about fallen angels. when it all mixes up, i'm pretty much left with this. in human breeding females can retain semen for several days and have them still swimming around. some research i have read says that semen ingested by a woman orally or vaginally actuallydeposits in her and can be found genetically in her brain and nervous system. all this whore of babylon game kinda seems like a scientific system of eugenics mixed with astrological magic and a belief in incarnating spirits from the sky through ritual. even a cursory study of QBLH shows that there are quite a few correspondences there between the sexual fluids, the brain, and the shemayim (heaven or fire water or alternatively shem yam 'sea of names'). people are still doing this. i firmly believe that this is a currently practiced system among the ELites. after thousands of years they are still doing this out of 'superstition' and going to elaborate lengths to do so. are they just pervs, insane inbreds, or is there something here that has practical effects? it's a lot to swallow but something tells me there is something there to follow up on.
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3ac18e No.258196
>>258186
The ushabti (also called shabti or shawabti, with a number of variant spellings, Ancient Egyptian plural: ushabtiu) was a funerary figurine used in Ancient Egypt. Ushabtis were placed in tombs among the grave goods and were intended to act as servants or minions for the deceased, should they be called upon to do manual labor in the afterlife. The figurines frequently carried a hoe on their shoulder and a basket on their backs, implying they were intended to farm for the deceased. They were usually written on by the use of hieroglyphs typically found on the legs.[1][2] Called “answerers,” they carried inscriptions asserting their readiness to answer the gods' summons to work.[3] The practice of using ushabtis originated in the Old Kingdom (c. 2600 to 2100 BCE) with the use of life-sized reserve heads made from limestone, which were buried with the mummy.[4] Most ushabtis were of minor size, and many produced in multiples – they sometimes covered the floor around a sarcophagus. Exceptional ushabtis are of larger size, or produced as a one-of-a-kind master work."
Sabbatai Zevi (Hebrew: שַׁבְּתַי צְבִי (other spellings include Shabbetai Ẓevi, Shabbeṯāy Ṣeḇī, Shabsai Tzvi, and Sabetay Sevi in Turkish) (August 1, 1626 – c. September 17, 1676[1]) was a Sephardic ordained Rabbi, though of Romaniote origin[2][3] and a kabbalist, active throughout the Ottoman Empire, who claimed to be the long-awaited Jewish Messiah. He was the founder of the Sabbatean movement."
Although rather little is known about them, various groups called Dönmeh (Turkish for "convert") continue to follow Sabbatai Zevi today, mostly in Turkey.[17] Estimates of the numbers vary. Many sources claim that there are fewer than 100,000 and some of them claim there are several hundred thousand in Turkey.[citation needed] They have been described as presenting themselves as Muslim in public whilst practising their own forms of messianic/mystical Jewish beliefs in private.[18]
"After two months' imprisonment in Constantinople, Sabbatai was moved to the state prison at Abydos. Some of his friends were allowed to accompany him. As a result, the Sabbataians called the fortress Migdal Oz (Tower [of] Strength). As Sabbatai had arrived on the day preceding Passover, he slew a paschal lamb for himself and his followers. He ate it with its fat, a violation of Jewish Law. It is said that he pronounced over it the benediction: "Blessed be God who hath restored again that which was forbidden."[6]"
Another event helped spread Sabbatai's fame in the Jewish world of the time in the course of his second stay in Cairo. During the Chmielnicki massacres in Poland, a Jewish orphan girl named Sarah, about six years old, was found by Christians and sent to a convent for care. After ten years, she escaped (through a miracle she claimed), and made her way to Amsterdam. Some years later she went to Livorno where, according to reports, she led a life of prostitution. She also conceived the notion that she was to become the bride of the Messiah, who was soon to appear.[6]
When the report of Sarah's adventures reached Cairo, Sabbatai claimed that such a consort had been promised to him in a dream because he, as the Messiah, was bound to fall in love with an unchaste woman. He reportedly sent messengers to Livorno to bring Sarah to him, and they were married at Halabi's house. Her beauty and eccentricity reportedly helped him gain new followers. Through her a new romantic and licentious element entered Sabbatai's career. Even the overturning of her past scandalous life was seen by Sabbatai's followers as additional confirmation of his messiahship, following the biblical story of the prophet Hosea, who had also been commanded to take a "wife of whoredom" as the first symbolic act of his calling.[6]
"According to many historians, Shabbetai Tzvi seems to have suffered from bipolar disorder. During his manic episodes, he would violate Jewish teachings, and perform strange and disturbing acts.[ii] Dr. Graetz writes that Shabbetai Tzvi frequently engaged in antinomian behavior, rejecting traditionally accepted rules and standards. More than once, he publicly violated Kashrut and Shabbat laws. According to Luria, who was deeply revered by Shabbetai Tzvi, the Jewish Messiah would be a pious man, possess an immaculate soul, and have a deep connection to the world of spirits. For Shabbetai Tzvi, this may have served as a satisfying elucidation for his bizarre behavior, for it meant that his craziness was due to the fact that he was the Messiah and that he was connected to a secret, mysterious world. After Shabbetai Tzvi revealed himself to his followers as the Jewish Messiah, he and his adherents were put under herem by the community’s rabbinic leaders and then later banished from Smyrna."
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76e33a No.258224
>>258195
It was much more than the sourcing of martial prowess, there are scant mineral and ore resources in Mesopotamia and the Hurrians were providing these through their extensive territories in Northern Iran and Anatolia, the companion City of Uruk was Bad-Tibira, a Hurrian term meaning the City of metal working and that was the centre of the ore importation and smelting industry, it was also the City of Dumuzid as companion to Inanna of Uruk, the sacred marriage in a sense was the relationship of the Northern pastoralists and casting culture with the City state agriculturalists, without that relationship no civilization.
The Trans-Caucasians took the Masculine role then in that sacred marriage and the Sumerians the Feminine, given their origin from the Hattic cultures of Anatolia that could even be understood as Horus and Hathor (Hurrian and Hattic), that was the premise Egyptian culture was founded upon from the initial contact from Susa of the Uruk sphere.
http://grepal.free.fr/articles/emmanuelle_honore_icom_anglais.pdf
There is no basis for a Jewish Messiah, they took over a City in terms of Jerusalem that had been established by the Hurrians two thousand years previously and tried to make their traditions their own, they adopted Hurrian cultural values and tradition as the only correspondence to that of the Bible is sourced from the Hurrian Nuzi tablets.
http://www.biblearchaeology.org/post/2006/02/27/Great-Discoveries-in-Biblical-Archaeology-The-Nuzi-Tablets.aspx
https://pursiful.com/2008/02/18/a-hurrian-cadre-in-king-davids-court/
The Goddess Asherah is the Anatolian Goddess Ishara;
>The statue of Išḫara in the city Nerissa had the form of a girl and it was decorated with garments, gold and silver As a goddess of Love and sexuality Išḫara belongs to the group of young goddesses, and therefore she bears the Hurrian epithet šiduru = girl.
http://dergiler.ankara.edu.tr/dergiler/18/941/11714.pdf
The NW Semitic Pantheon then derived from Anatolia and Mesopotamia, El-lil from En-lil of Nibru/Nippur and the Hebrews are just one of his weird schemes with regards to Destiny, a challenge to Nin-Girsu, there are a lot of other Divine factors to take into account.
As far as the Labyrinth goes the Lord of the Great (Underground) City was Nergal, En-uru-gal to the Phoenicians Melqart meaning King of the City.
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3f05c0 No.258262
>>258224
all of this seems pretty relevant to current events of the warlords. so: hurrians are the miners and smelters, chaldeans are egypts lumberjacks, egyptians are the granary but have no wood for shipbuilding or construction (thus the prominence of masonry), but they do have gold mines in the south. this all seems relevant to the trade routes and division of labor, as well as the grid laying for agriculture and mapping. what i notice is that the obfuscation seems related to keeping all the kingdoms ignorant of each other and putting merchants/seafarers at the top of the food chain. they are the only ones with the maps, sailing/navigation tech, as well as the language babble decryption keys. they only dispense the relevant knowledge to maintain cultural insularity of the 'supply regions', and myths to 'explain' the relationships without really letting people know there is one bloodline of selective breeders at the top. this power structure is still operating and keeping everyone in the dark. to discover any part of this puzzle takes religious people into the cognitive dissonance mode instantly because to parse it they would have to admit that their whole history and religion is a sinister lie. that river junction of baghdad looks a lot like the potomac. . .not without reason. i also notice that the Sea-org is still at the top of US intelligence pyramid, kinda like some older orders.
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3f05c0 No.258267
>>258224
for once i wanted to be the one to add a scholarly paper, so here is one about the iconoclastic devotee of the storm god, who sought to upend the order. the rebellion of Amurru-ka is a jacobite enterprise, is it not? http://www.britishmuseum.org/pdf/6d%20The%20failed%20reforms.pdf
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76e33a No.258272
>>258262
You're right the Merchants became the One ring to bind them all as it were, and your having a good grasp on this it would be very useful to consider the Moloch conundrum as that relates to Melqart of Tyre.
The issue is this, the God of mining/smelting/toxicity/plague/weapons/death obviously tunneled down deep enough to become the Lord of the Underworld, to the fires of inner Earth as rapist, thus becoming the basis for the popularized Devil, he could also be said to be the patron of the military industrial complex and the exploitation of all natural resources, in effect makes death and destruction inevitable and for that reason it is Melkart that was consumed in the flames of his own Pyre in conjunction with those along for the ride, in that sense i posited him as the patron Deity of the Asteroid belt.
The traditions of the Eastern Mediterranean though are primarily of Hattic origin rather than Hurrian, and they had an entirely different perspective on the sanctity of precious metals before the age of the Merchants were they became the basis for liquid currency, the cult of Melqart derived from the Anatolian God Sandon
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandon_(god)
For background some extensive quoting from here;
Near Eastern Patron Deities of Mining and Smelting in the Late Bronze Age and Early Iron Ages’ (plate xix), S. Dalley, Report of the Department of Antiquities Cyprus, (RDAC)1987
>The identity of the ingot god and goddess has been suggested on indirect evidence, which dates some 500 years or more after the period of the Cypriot statuettes, as Canaanite Resheph [Semitic form r’sh’f-Reshef, Egyptian = Reshpu] and as Aphrodite, who is implied by Herodotus to be of Cypriot origin. Since the ingot god of Enkomi stands in the pose of the Smiting God, the possibility of identifying him with the Semitic god Resheph has wider implications.
>Akkadian cuneiform texts from Mesopotamia contain some information which is relevant to this Cypriot and Cretan problem. To take the goddess first: there is a goddess who is particularly well documented in the Old Babylonian (MBA) period, known variously as Mamma, Mammi and Mammitum. She is called “the female smelter of the gods” in two separate hymns. In a list of four (or five) smiths from Mari on the Middle Euphrates, two of the names are compounded with Mamma. In the Old Babylonian Epic of Atra-hasis the goddess Mammi plays a central role as creator of mankind, the one who mixes the raw materials clay and blood, the midwife goddess whose names or epithets are given as “mistress of the gods,” “mistress of all the gods” and NIN-TU(R), “lady of the birth-hut(?).” In the Epic of Gilgamesh X. vi.37 she is creator of mankind. Thus she has two clear attributes: as a smelter goddess and as a birth goddess. She is to be recognised by her omega shaped symbol [Ω] which is thought to represent a uterus. Her cult centre is (was) at Kesh.
>Although the site of Kesh in central Mesopotamia has not been identified, it is attested as a cult centre in records from the proto-literate period onwards, and was the principal shrine of the great Sumerian fertility goddess Ninhursag and of [p. 62] her hypostasis NIN-TU(R). Ninhursag means “mountain lady,” and she is attested in Sumerian as the “copper smelter of the land” and the “copper smelter of the gods.”
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76e33a No.258273
>>258272
The relationship to Nin-hur-sag is simply her association with the sacred mountain and the fact that's were ores are obtained from.
>To take the god second: there is evidence that Nergal was the patron god of smelting in Assyria from at least the 9th century onwards. At the Gate of the Foundry Workers which was one of the main entrances to the city of Assur on the middle Tigris, two maceheads were found of the 9th and 8th centuries, inscribed with a dedication to Nergal. In a ritual instruction text on a 7th century tablet there are instructions for the end of campaigns This information implies that Nergal was the patron god of foundry workers, and the metal was stored either in his temples, or at other places such as city gates that were dedicated to him.
>Various cult centres of Nergal are known in Mesopotamia proper. Kutha (Tell Ibrahim near Babylon) is the best attested; there his consort was Mammitum. In Assyria he was the chief god of Tarbiţu, just north of Ninevah; there Laz was his spouse. He has shrines at Ninevah and Nimrud, although these have not been discovered. At Assur he shared the temple of Assur with his consort Allat (“goddess”). So closely connected were Assur and Nergal there that the priests from a single family served both deities.
>Nergal is the son of Ellil, head of the pantheon, or Anu, the sky god. His mother is not named. He was equated with Gilgamesh as the ruler of the Underworld. This is extraordinary, for Nergal is one of the great gods, whereas Gilgamesh was a hero who signally failed to find immortality. As Schretter and von Weiher have shown, there are variant writings of Nergal’s name from the MBA onwards which indicate a pronunciation Eragal and Erakal.
>The possibility that “Herakles” is the western, non-Semitic pronunciation of Nergal/Erakal was suggested in 1857, and no later scholarship has refuted the phonetic changes involved, nor has any Semitic inscription with the name Herakles come to light, despite the great popularity of the god in W. Asia; all Greek inscriptions on statues of Herakles name Herakles; all Semitic inscriptions on statues of Herakles name Nergal, Melqart or Resheph.
> For them Melqart-Herakles was a major god, the patron god of Tyre. The name of their god, Melqart, is virtually a translation of the name Nergal; “ruler of the city” and “lord of the great city” respectively; these etymologies are widely accepted. There are several further pieces of evidence that suggest Melqart and Nergal were the same god.
Nergal and Melqart give every indication of being a tutelary Deity, that is they were the Divine personification of the actual human treasure seeker and gold digger, the rogue that leaves a trail of death and destruction in his wake.
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3f05c0 No.258276
>>258273
>>258272
so i am chewing all this and i can't get over the following: Anu is a sky god which is often associated with a celestial ANU.NA.KI, but also with ANU.NA.GE a pantheon of GEological 'underground gods'. is Ishara the doorway between the sky gods and the underground gods? are they mirror images? the storm god is described as banishing the underground gods back to their subterranean domain. there is biblical reference to both smashing of shrines in high places (AYR) and asherah poles. in particular i was just reading about a shrine built in a highest part of turkey, kizildag pass. so is the mountaintop the place where the underground gods and the sky gods make a truce? is this what a tor is also? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glastonbury_Tor
did sailors bring this religion to places around the globe? is it all mumbo jumbo or is there really some information granted by knowing this religion and its practices? i am often inclined to think the ancient religions contain knowledge most 'scientists' still do not comprehend, unless of course they are privy to these secret groups and given the keys to the kingdom.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchior_%28Magus%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchior_%28alloy%29
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melchor_Bravo_de_Saravia
Melkor
Biographical information
Other names
Morgoth, Bauglir, Belegurth, Belegûr, Melko, Alkar, Mardello, The Great Enemy, The Black Foe, The Corrupter, The Marrer, The Prime Dark Lord, Arun, Belcha, Melegor, Meleko, the First Dark Lord.
Titles
Dark Lord, King of the World, Lord of the Dark, Elder King, Master of the Fates of Arda, Lord of Angband, Lord of Utumno
Birth
Before the creation of Arda
Death
Immortal
Realms
Utumno (formerly), Angband, much of Middle-earth and Beleriand for a time
Weapon
Powers of the Valar, Grond, Mace, Sword, Hammer, black spear
Physical description
Race
Ainur
Gender
Male
Height
Any size by choice
Hair
Dark
Culture
Valar (Aratar), Umaiar
Melkor (Quenya; IPA: "He who arises in might"), later known predominantly as Morgoth,[1] was the first Dark Lord, and the primordial source of evil in Eä.
Originally the most powerful of the Ainur created by Eru Iluvatar, Melkor rebelled against his creator out of pride and sought to corrupt Arda. After committing many evils in the First Age, such as the theft of the Silmarils, which resulted in his name Morgoth, and the destruction of the Two Lamps and the Two Trees of Valinor, Morgoth was defeated by the Host of Valinor in the War of Wrath and cast out of Arda into the Void, where he now waits.
i used to have this painting on my wall when i was 12 or so.
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76e33a No.258277
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>>258267
Right that's basically what i'm looking at here, the distinction between Ninurta/Tessub/Tarhun/Ba'al Hadad as storm God and leader of the army and also Nergal having the same associations, often seen together there was also syncretism to some extent.
The differences are that Ninurta as farmer closely related to the protection of the land, though he used the same tools of warfare, he represented the maintainance of Divine order Nergal brought destruction.
Also Nergal was the patron Deity of executioners and torturers,
>An epithet of the god Nergal in Hatra inscriptions is the Iranian loan word dhšyˀ, dhšptˀ. It is used exclusively of Nergal and is related to his role of punishing divinity, in the meaning of “executioner, butcher, torturer”. This interpretation of the word as Iranian term fits excellently the role of Nergal as known to us from Mesopotamian sources. He was primarily keeper of the underworld and the god of pestilence. As the god of the underworld, he functioned as a judge. His lion-headed mace was able to punish and wreak vengeange. Despite the popular nature of the association of Nergal with Heracles and the very frequent portrayal of Heracles at Hatra in Greek guise, a continued awareness of the Mesopotamian nature of Nergal remains in the title Nergol dhšptˀ “Nergol the executioner”.
http://www.aakkl.helsinki.fi/melammu/database/gen_html/a0000611.php
The differences and essential conflict between the two was the basis of struggle between Ba'al and Mot.
It's a question then of who's Storm are we actively engaged with, sometimes Nergal was even given as consort of Ninurta's wife Baba/Bau, Goddess of medicine and healing the very opposite of the toxicity and plagues of Nergal, Ninurta himself was understood as a God of healing also in terms of destroying the actual cause of the malaise rather than the addressing of the symptoms through medicine, the issue is complex.
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76e33a No.258278
>>258276
Ishara was the Goddess of silver and spiritual refinement and purification and lived beneath the Taurus mountains alongside Allani the Goddess of Gold, they represented the internal energies of the Earth and the stream of consciousness from within.
Nergal forced his way into the underworld and made himself the consort of Eres-Kigal, but that term simply means Queen of Eres, and that was the Semitic name for Uruk, and the Deity of the shrine of Eres at Uruk was Nisaba Goddess of scribes and the multiple choice question.
That is also the basis for the Greek Eris or Discordia, the generation of choice as the basis for discord, Allani/The Lady generates all choice good and evil, her companion Ishara rejects the problematic and consigns it back to the underworld as perfect Princess, ironically the Jews rejected Ishara.
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dc8c24 No.258407
>>258278
i was meditating on the irony you mentioned. basically, men of the contract (or oath) do not like heresy (choice). it's all about the fine print. they conceal the truth almost completely, and expect you to choose based on redacted info. basically the whole governmental system of the Berith-ish empire is running on 'implied consent'. but the goy are so befuddled by being fed contradictions and lies for a couple thousand years they are traumatized by even the concept of fine-print and this disinclined to read any of it.
"B'nai B'rith International (English: /bəˌneɪ ˈbrɪθ/, from Hebrew: בני ברית b'né brit, "Children of the Covenant")[1] is the oldest Jewish service organization in the world. B'nai B'rith states that it is committed to the security and continuity of the Jewish people and the State of Israel and combating antisemitism and bigotry. Its mission is to unite persons of the Jewish faith and to enhance Jewish identity through strengthening Jewish family life, to provide broad-based services for the benefit of senior citizens, and to facilitate advocacy and action on behalf of Jews throughout the world.
B'nai B'rith membership certificate, 1876
Although the organization's historic roots stem from a system of fraternal lodges[2] and units in the late 20th century,[3] as fraternal organizations declined throughout the United States, the organization evolved into a dual system of both lodges and units."
amazing how obvious they make this shit. the profane uphold their brytish union jackoff by their willful ignorance. sad, in a way. the path of the heretic is a rough and rocky road.
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76e33a No.258408
>>258407
That was towards developing a supposed association with the British people as;
>Old Cornish breithil, from *breith, speckled) or from Welsh brithyll, trout (from brith, speckled)
The Brythonic term took into account the fact that there was a mixture or speckling of different tribal groups, but also that readily related to the Genesis account of Jacob regarding him producing a herd of speckled cattle from the herd of Laban (meaning white), implying the Tribe of Israel was to be of speckled racial admixture, brown and white or just brown, but never just white.
An easy suggestion to make then that the speckled British were just the same as those speckled Hebrews and therefore the lost tribes of Israel, but of course entirely ridiculous.
For the Merchants it has always been about the contract or covenant much like the Devil, the classic format of the prophetic books of the Bible is that the accused are reminded of the contract they made, their transgressions against such, suitable punishment, rehabilitation and potential rewards according to future non-breech of contract. Their planned global rule would be entirely legal with the authority and force to back up the claim.
The contract does remove the question of choice as you are bound by the terms, the earliest contracts related to debt slavery were one would voluntarily enter into servitude for a fixed sum of gold shekels to be paid back with interest as the basis for release.
The oath was somewhat different as that involved questions of honour and trust and was the preferred way of those who didn't bother with contracts.
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b2907c No.258432
>>258408
Bharatavarsha, which traditionally referred to the Indian subcontinent and gained increasing currency from the mid-19th century as a native name for India.[23][24] Scholars believe it to be named after the Vedic tribe of Bhāratas in the second millennium BCE.[25] It is also traditionally associated with the rule of the legendary emperor Bharata.[26]
(bharatá, “to be maintained”).
. . .
(Hebrew: תנאים [tanaˈʔim], singular Hebrew: תנא [taˈna], Tanna "repeaters", "teachers"
. . .
Tannin (Hebrew: תנין) or Tunannu (Ugaritic: Tnn, vocalized tu-un-na-nu[1]) was a sea monster in Canaanite, Phoenician, and Hebrew mythology used as a symbol of chaos and evil.[2]
Welsh Prydain. or Per (house) Ydain (danes)
In J. R. R. Tolkien's legendarium, the Dúnedain /ˈduːnɛdaɪn/ (singular: Dúnadan, "man of the west") were a race of Men descended from the Númenóreans who survived the sinking of their island kingdom and came to Eriador in Middle-earth, led by Elendil and his sons, Isildur and Anárion. They are also called the Men of the West and the Men of Westernesse (direct translations of the Sindarin term). They settled mainly in Arnor and Gondor.
. . .
leviathan. bri athan.
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b2907c No.258433
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76e33a No.258526
>>258432
tu-un-na-nu as correspondent to the Hurrian Hedammu, the first beast of the sea raised by Kumarbi/El and indicative of the power of Byblos.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumarbi
I see were you're going with that as far Phoenician trade connections to the early Cornish Tin mining and it's an interesting angle, particularly as Hedammu was seduced by the Goddess associated with copper, Sauska.
https://www.ancient.eu/Sauska/
That connection is certainly taken into account in the legends of Jesus visiting Cornwall with his Tin trading uncle Joseph of arimathea and locating the Pendragon mythos at Tintagel, taken as the earliest speckling, even given the potential for small groups in that region having such ties to the Near East though it has little relevance for the greater population, as far as British Israelite claims go.
There is also the question of the Stone of Destiny and the understanding that any such cultic connections relate to the God of Destiny, El-lil, and it's perhaps understandable that people hang on to the coat tails of that, though from the Hurrian perspective it was always an evil undertaking to not only challenge Tessub, but ultimately to eradicate mankind, who he generally found a little noisy.
The question is or was how does one counter the force of Destiny, particularly when it is on the brink of absolute success, it's an interesting one.
>I will tell of Tessub, the great lord of Kummi. I will praise the young woman Allani at the Bolts of the Netherworld. In addition to them I will speak of the young woman Ishara, a skilled goddess, famous for her wisdom.
>Tessub and Suwaliyat went down to the Dark Netherworld, and Allani girded herself for work. She goes back and forth in front of Tessub, and Allani made a fine feast at the Bolts of the Netherworld.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C5%A0uwaliyat
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f37859 No.258714
Aun the Old (Aun inn gamli, Latinized Auchun, English: "Edwin the Old"[citation needed]) is a mythical Swedish king of the House of Yngling in the Heimskringla. Aun was the son of Jorund, and had ten sons, nine of which he was said to have sacrificed in order to prolong his own life.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aun
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samael_Aun_Weor
In 1948 he began teaching a small group of students. In 1950, under the name "Aun Weor", he managed to publish The Perfect Matrimony, or The Door to Enter into Initiation with the help of his close disciples.[13] The book, later entitled The Perfect Matrimony, claimed to unveil the secret of sexuality as the cornerstone of the world's great religions.[14] In it he elucidated topics such as sexual transmutation,[15] "white tantra", and esoteric initiation.[16] Writing in such a candid manner regarding sex was met with disdain by the majority of the public at the time. Seen as immoral and pornographic, Aun Weor found himself fleeing angry mobs attempting to silence him through violent means. From March 14 to 19 of 1952 Aun Weor spends five days in jail for "committing the crime of healing the sick".[5][17]
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c7d6e8 No.258746
>>240619
>>240670
The connection to Mesopotamia is obvious, and strong…to my eyes. Excellent posts.
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c7d6e8 No.258751
>>247866 Checked
>Q's mention of → 5 - 10 - 15
Honestly, one should consider if he is referring to the Right Pillar in the ToL, or Inanna -> Marduk -> (Enki)?
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c7d6e8 No.258752
>>251907
>so this leads me to another question:
>
>is da'ath related to the Duat(Tuat)?
Irkalla was the underworld in Sumer. Ereshkigal was its ruler. In the rites of my Neo-Sumerian path one has to descend, akin to Ishtar, by discarding your emotional armors, or "sacred jewelry". It is naked, in the below, before Ereshkigal you are, if lucky (tbh), and it begins. The trek to Saturn is painful and probably never truly ends.
If you are seeking Saturn when you are there, you have a chance. Probably akin to that weighing of the soul against Ma'at's feather of divine worthiness. By seeking Saturn you are seeking higher things, not a permanent vacation in Irkalla.
>is it related to the missing planet between jupiter and mars marked (x) in your post between multiples 54/108/216? can't help but notice the 108 number of the buddhist mala, which i noticed conveniently divides into 4 groups of 27 (pretty close to a lunation period).
I think this link between Nergal and Marduk must be looked into. There is a vital transformative terrain between the two. Its a process, akin to the trek into the below to eventually reach Saturn. Its a process that kinda just keeps being in motion.
The lunar cycles are how one can learn the cosmic cycles on a smaller, more local scale. Many things can be explained using the lunar cycle and yearly solar cycle. Its all pretty linked, the cycles keep going, like a water turbine turnings, pushing the water in its designed direction.
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76e33a No.258755
>>258714
The legend of killing the nine sons would derive from the Blot and also relates to the tradition of Odin of course.
>According to the Ynglinga saga the kings Aun, Egil and Adils were buried in Old Uppsala. One interpretation is that these are buried in the three great mounds.
>Freyr erected a huge hof at Uppsala and made his chief residence there" The word hof/hov probably denoted "hall", but may connote "sanctuary" as well. It appears quite frequently in Swedish place-names, where it sometimes denotes "banqueting hall
>Every ninth year there is a blót of nine days, a common feast for everyone in Sweden. Then they sacrifice nine males of each species, even men, and the bodies are hung from the branches of a grove near the temple. No one is exempt from this blót and everyone sends gifts to the shrine, even the kings.
>n order to mollify the divinities he did indeed make a holy sacrifice of dark-coloured victims to the god Frø. He repeated this mode of propitiation at an annual festival and left it to be imitated by his descendants. The Swedes call it Frøblot
http://www.germanicmythology.com/works/uppsalatemple.html
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76e33a No.258757
>>258752
The cult of Eres-Kigal wasn't well developed in Sumer itself, the title infers Queen of Eres were that was the Semitic name for Uruk, which more generally is considered related to Inanna, but the shrine of Eres related to Nisaba.
http://etcsl.orinst.ox.ac.uk/section1/tr122.htm
In relating Nisaba to the Goddess of inner Earth the association is through gold were she was the Goddess of golden grain as Virgo and through extension the gold within the Earth, but the tradition originated and was much more fully developed in Anatolia with regards to the Sun Goddess of the inner Earth at Arinna in terms of Hattic tradition, the objects illustrated relating to her cult, and Allani of Hurrian tradition.
http://www.academia.edu/11007004/The_great_king_Zuzu_of_Alahzina_the_Goddess_Allani_and_the_Stormgods_of_Kussara_and_Alala%E1%B8%AB
It is the Goddess Allani that corresponds to the Celtic Alauna in terms of an energy grid across the land, her cult can be traced thus;
>Thereafter Elen thought to make high roads from one stronghold to another across the Island of Britain. And the roads were made. And for that reason they are called the Roads of Elen of the Hosts, because she was sprung from the Island of Britain, and the men of the Island of Britain would not have made those great hostings for any save her.
>" 'Elen of the Ways' who later became conflated with Elen of the Hosts. The idea of reindeer ties in nicely with the Sarn Elen; we can imagine the tracks formed by deer as they moved between grazing lands:
>"…the antlered Goddess Elen, whose trackways lead us through the frozen forest of our winter dreams"
http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/articles/elen_1.htm
>One of my remaining geographical goddess stories for investigation was that of the River Ellen, to the west of the county. Some would have you believe that this is a direct lift from the Welsh figure, Elen, a semi-mythical woman much confused with St. Helen, who was, in legend, responsible for a network of straight roads still existing in Wales. However, it turns out that Cumbria’s Ellen is derived from the word ‘alauna’, which, according to the Romans, was the name the Britons gave to Maryport: ‘Alauna Carvetiorum’, or the Alauna of the Carvetii, the local pre-Roman native tribe.
>Alauna’ is not a rare name. There’s another place anciently called Alauna in Northumberland (Learchild, or ‘Alauna Votadinum’ – the last element being a tribal name), and yet another example at Watercrook near Kendal. Alcester in Warwickshire, and its river, the Alne (and indeed other english Alnes), also derive from the same root. The River Allen and Allan Water in Scotland are the same, too
>Popular 19th century theory, Ekwall’s 1928 English River Names and indeed the 1911 Encyclopaedia Britannica would have you believe that these Alaunas (Alaunæ?) were named after Alaunus, a ‘gaulish god of healing and prophecy’ with inscriptions found at sites in southern France and western Germany. This requires Alaunus to have changed sex when he became British
https://esmeraldamac.wordpress.com/2013/11/18/popular-history-abhors-a-vacuum-but-accurate-historians-cant/
What she does note is that there was also the God Alaunus which the Romans related to Mercury, DEO IALANO CONTRE SANCTISSIMO, the most sacred and inimical god Ialanus. The Proto-Indo-European root of the name relates to flowing or streaming, or raising and nurturing, Alaunus as Mercury would correspond with the tradition of associated networks, in his capacity of network administration perhaps, but the focal points upon such are Feminine, suggesting that Alauna was the expression of the network itself.
It should also be taken into account that the seven spiritual archetypes related to the planets were understood as arising from within the Earth and descending also there to be regenerated.
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76e33a No.258759
>>258752
Marduk/Amar-utu (Amarru calf of the Sun) is simply an Amorite tutelary Deity, the Divine personification of the Amorite
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amurru_(god)
The tradition was all about syncretism and the association of every Divine archetype with the idealized Amorite
> In the first centuries of the second, many Mesopotamian cities were controlled by dynasties of Amorite descent. The whole complex process is reflected in several compositions dealing with the god Martu, a Sumerocentric eponym for the Amorite parvenus. In the so-called Marriage of Martu, he is presented as a powerful but crude barbarian seeking a bride among the local gentry. His people are mocked for their nomadic ways, eating raw meat, ignorance of the gods and their temples, and the inability to recite prayers. The text’s conclusion is broken, but presumably Martu succeeded in his suit, and so at last won a place in polite society. There are also two hymns to Martu, much like those for other Sumerian gods, which seem to show his integration into the Mesopotamian divine order. While keeping his savage power, he is accepted as a son of An, favored by Enlil, and ranked among the great gods. As such he now enjoys the perquisites of civilization, including a ‘normal’ cult:
https://chs.harvard.edu/CHS/article/display/6343
For this reason Marduk should never be taken seriously, the Hebrews did similar with Yahweh, invented a Deity that was the Divine projection of themselves.
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58d0ed No.258771
>>258759
guess you could say i'm keen to continue this:
Kenaz – Literally: “Torch” – Esoteric ‘Ken’ or Knowledge
Key Concepts: torch as a symbol of knowledge and intellect, illumination, searching for enlightenment, shedding light on matters, quest for truth, skills and abilities, creativity, art, craftsmanship, cunning, acquisition and application of knowledge, occult female secrets, intuition, enthusiasm in teaching/learning, study, kin-fire, opportunity, playfulness"
keen2
kēn/
verb
gerund or present participle: keening
wail in grief for a dead person; sing a keen.
make an eerie wailing sound.
"Although the precise purpose of such oaths is not clear, it is worth noting here a cylinder seal of unknown provenance dating to ca. 1500–1000, interpreted by E. Porada as a treaty agreement; a king shakes hands with a smaller figure, presumably a client ruler, behind whom a musician, of equal stature to the king, plays an upright harp (Figure 2). [16] Presumably the music somehow served to bind the agreement. [17] Note that a number of balang servant-gods are attested for the sun-god Utu, who was associated with law and justice; these bear such apt names as ‘Let me live by His Word’, ‘Just Judge’, and ‘Decision of Sky and Earth’. [18] "
have restricted my discussion to those issues that provide the best parallels for Kinyras, Kinnaru of Ugarit, and Syro-Levantine kinnāru-culture generally: divinized cult-tools, their construction and anthropomorphosis in myth; conceptions of musical cognition and communication with the gods through this medium; and royal ideology and self-representation, including ideas of hierogamy.
https://chs.harvard.edu/CHS/article/display/6340
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58d0ed No.258773
>>258757
https://muse.jhu.edu/article/430426/pdf
A-lanSalot
"The Alans (or Alani) were an Iranian nomadic pastoral people of antiquity.[1][2][3][4][5]
The name Alan is an Iranian dialectical form of Aryan, a common self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2] Possibly related to the Massagetae, the Alans have been connected by modern historians with the Central Asian Yancai and Aorsi of Chinese and Roman sources, respectively.[6] Having migrated westwards and become dominant among the Sarmatians on the Pontic Steppe, they are mentioned by Roman sources in the 1st century AD.[1] At the time, they had settled the region north of the Black Sea and frequently raided the Parthian Empire and the Caucasian provinces of the Roman Empire.[1] In 215–250 AD, their power on the Pontic Steppe was broken by the Goths.[4]
Upon the Hunnic defeat of the Goths on the Pontic Steppe around 375 AD, many of the Alans migrated westwards along with various Germanic tribes. They crossed the Rhine in 406 AD along with the Vandals and Suebi, settling in Orléans and Valence. Around 409 AD, they joined the Vandals and Suebi in the crossing of the Pyrenees into the Iberian Peninsula, settling in Lusitania and Carthaginiensis.[7] The Iberian Alans were soundly defeated by the Visigoths 418 AD and subsequently surrendered their authority to the Hasdingi Vandals.[8] In 428 AD, the Vandals and Alans crossed the Strait of Gibraltar into North Africa, where they founded a powerful kingdom which lasted until its conquest by the Byzantine Emperor Justinian I in the 6th century AD.[8]
The Alans who remained under Hunnic rule founded a powerful kingdom in the North Caucasus in the Middle Ages, which ended with the Mongol invasions in the 13th century AD. These Alans are said to be the ancestors of the modern Ossetians.[1]
The Alans spoke an Eastern Iranian language which derived from Scytho-Sarmatian and which in turn evolved into modern Ossetian.[2][9][10]"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alans
Materials from the site near Kamianka-Dniprovska, purportedly the capital of Ateas' state, show that metallurgists were free members of the society, even if burdened with imposed obligations. Metallurgy was the most advanced and the only distinct craft speciality among the Scythians.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scythia
master metalugists of all time say 'what?'
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c7d6e8 No.258810
>>258759
>For this reason Marduk should never be taken seriously,
To be perfectly honest, over time Ive come to a realization that Marduk is most likely a title, or godform to be attained, not an entity in itself. When I said that the span between Nergal and Marduk must be looked into, what I meant was the accumulated knowledge from Malkuth to Geburrah, crossing over the link from Tiphareth to Daath, to Chesed. Something happens on that bridge between Geburrah and Chesed that seems to not be explored in detail.
With that said, thank you for the links and information. I can see you've done a lot of legwork in this matter and I definitely appreciate such efforts. What I know is from more of a esoteric background, and not very detailed in the archeological and historical vantage point. I fully admit I can stand to learn more on those fronts.
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76e33a No.258816
>>258773
This is true, the basis for the Dumuzid Kingship of Uruk remained with the Caucasians and can still be evidenced in Alanic times, particularly through the goldwork and motifs of the Sarmatians, 5,000 of which were brought over to Britain and settled as veterans in NW England, a speckling.
http://www.heroicage.org/issues/2/ha2tf.htm
http://roman-britain.co.uk/places/bremetenacum.htm
>Ala Primae Sarmatarum - The First Wing of Sarmatae. This was one unit of perhaps seven, totalling 5,500 tribesmen in all, who were drafted from among the savage tribes living beyond the Danube and sent to Britain by Marcus Aurelius in 175AD. These people had previously held Roman client status, but at this particular time were not under direct Roman control. It has been suggested that Ribchester later became a Roman military horse-breeding/training centre, which drew-upon the particular tribal skills of the Sarmatians.
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76e33a No.258817
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>>258771
Yes kenning as to know something directly in the same sense as music, the Art of Zin.
>The Hittite term hunzinar comes from Hattic 'large lyre', cf. w. Sem. kināru/ kinor
>The large lyre was called hunzinar and the small one ippizinar in Hittite. The word zinar is probably Hattic. In fact the words zinar and kinir show a shift of k > z, which is seen in Luwian words derived from the Hittite.
>'Then the great master of ceremonies goes out to the forecourt and says to the herald: zinar, zinar. Then the musicians lift the Istar instruments. The herald marches in front of the musicians who carry in the Istar instruments.'
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76e33a No.258818
>>258810
There is connection between Nergal/Herakles/Melqart and Marduk in that both archetypes developed as Divine representation of manifest phenomena, an interpretation of the powers involved.
In the case of Marduk he represented the growing power of Amorite Babylonia, the earliest City God was likely the shamanic healer son of Enki named Asalluhi which remained the primary name of Marduk, but in conjunction with the Babylonian conquest of all of Mesopotamia he also assimilated Enlil and Ninurta and chopped the head of Anu, allegedly, his sidekick the scribal God Nebo wrote these supposed changes in the Divine order into being, he himself was a change in the Divine order as scribal Deity, adjusted the narrative, this set something of an unfortunate precedent.
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c0eee9 No.258958
>>258816
amurru-ka. armorica, a mercia.
AMORC. C? ROMA
"This will no doubt sound rather strange to you, and you are likely to exclaim that history has never told you of such a thing! Well, in many ways history is a legend. For in centuries of European development long ago ships did indeed set off from Norway, from what was then Norway, to America. Of course it had a different name then and was not called America.
People knew about the region in America where especially those magnetic forces rise up which bring human beings into a relationship with the double. The most noticeable relations with the double emanate from that part of the earth which is covered by the American continent. And in those early centuries people sailed in Norwegian boats to America where they then studied diseases. Coming from Europe, people went to America to study the diseases caused by the earth's magnetism. That is where we can find the mysterious origin of ancient European medicine. That is where it was possible to observe the course of diseases, which would not have been possible in Europe where people were more susceptible to the influences of the double.
Amazingly, Europe's forgetting about America was due to the Catholic Church which expunged from the records any mention of this land we now call America. (Page 65) It was, in fact, the Irish monks such as Columban and St. Gall who put up spiritual walls to insulate Europe from the influences which might else have come to Europe from the Americas. (Page 66, 67) Not surprisingly, America was re-discovered during the onset of the age of materialism in the fifteenth century, and its early exploration was dominated by a strong desire for gold.
"[page 67, 68] Only when the age of materialism began was America rediscovered. Then America was discovered under the influence of the greed for gold, under the influence of a purely materialistic culture with which people have to reckon in the fifth post-Atlantean era and with which they must establish an appropriate relationship.
These are the things that are genuine history. And they are what throw light on what is real. The earth has to be described as a living being. It has geographical differentiations in the way the most varied forces stream up out of all kinds of different terrestrial regions. That is why human beings must not be separated off according to terrestrial region but must take on from one another whatever each region can uniquely produce in the way of what is good and great. And that is why the world view of spiritual science is mindful of the need to create something that can be truly accepted by all nations in all regions. Human beings must progress through a mutual exchange of their spiritual riches. It is this that is crucial."
http://www.doyletics.com/arj/secretbr.shtml
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76e33a No.258967
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>>258958
The doctrine of the New Atlantis or re-discovery of such, the opening quote reminded me of American Gods by Neil Gaiman.
As the land under the influence of Neptune that would also correlate to were the light first emerged from the waters, the origin of the Asar and the sages, in theory, with America it is always about making waves.
The Indo-Iranian expression ‘child of the waters’ is paralleled by the Sumerian expression
dumu abzu ‘child of the waters.’ This epithet is applied to several deities associated with water: Enki’s son, variously named Asar(i),Asariluhi or Asaralimnuna, known as the ‘light of the gods’; Dumuzid (dumu zi(d) ‘the true child,’ Dumuzid abzu ‘the true child of the waters’, an aspect of the goddess Nanše, “the power to new life in the watery deep”
>He is the son of the god of subterranean waters, Enki, and is described not only as the ‘great ruler of the abzu and, in Akkadian, as the ‘light of the gods
Iranian and Indic are in concord with regard to an apparently inherited numinous force or deity by the name of Apām Napāt usually rendered the ‘child of the waters.’
>The Sumerian god of the waters known as Nudimmud may also belong here if a pre-form
*Ne(t)tunud has also been reshaped, on the analogy of nouns to the attested Old Sumerian
Nute(m)mud
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76e33a No.258968
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148a3a No.258987
A Runic calendar (also Rune staff or Runic Almanac) is a perpetual calendar, variants of which have been used in Northern Europe until the 19th century.
The calendar is based on the 19-year-long Metonic cycle, correlating the Sun and the Moon. Runic calendars were written on parchment or carved onto staves of wood, bone, or horn. The oldest one known, and the only one from the Middle Ages, is the Nyköping staff from Sweden, believed to date from the 13th century. Most of the several thousand which survive are wooden calendars dating from the 16th and the 17th centuries. During the 18th century, the Runic calendars had a renaissance, and around 1800, such calendars were made in the form of tobacco boxes in brass. On one line, 52 weeks of 7 days were laid out using 52 repetitions of the first seven runes of the Younger Futhark. The runes corresponding to each weekday varied from year to year.
On another, many of the days were marked with one of 19 symbols representing the 19 Golden numbers, the years of the Metonic cycle. In early calendars, each of the 19 years in the cycle was represented by a rune; the first 16 were the 16 runes of the Younger Futhark, plus special runes for the remaining three years: Arlaug (Golden Number 17), Tvimadur (Golden Number 18), and Belgthor (Golden Number 19). The new moon would fall on that day during that year of the cycle. For example, in the 18th year of the cycle, the new moons would fall on all the dates marked with Tvimadur, the symbol for year 18. Later calendars used Pentadic numerals for the values 1–19. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runic_calendar
The Elder Futhark names this rune Hagalaz; To the Icelanders and their Younger Futhark, it is Hagal. The Anglo Saxon and West Germanic folk call this rune Haegl. To Guido von List – he too named this rune Hagal. The rune poems sing of this rune- the destructive hail that rains down upon us. Yet this rune has the power to heal the body and calm the mind. It is a health promoting and holy rune. Some people form the rune with two upright staves joined by a diagonal one. This is the way the rune is drawn in the Ar Kan Rune Lag – the rune system of Woden’s Folk. When performing collective rituals this is the rune we use. However I also use this rune in its alternative form – three crossed lines forming a six pointed star. When I look at this rune I see reflections of life and death, a rune binding of male and female and compulsion to duty.
All the rune poems equate Hagal with the hailstone. Hail is the whitest of grains; Hail is the coldest of grains. The Old English word Haegl, Danish Hagl and the German Hagel all mean ‘hailstone’. But this is just one aspect of the rune. I prefer to call this rune ‘Hail’ rather than Hagal (pronouncing the g). If we take a quick look at some old Anglo Saxon words we find that ‘g’ was pronounced as a ‘y’ (as in these examples - geollu – yellow, geol – Yule, ge –you). This means our Hagal rune could be pronounced as Hayal, so it would be the same as Hail. The word Hayal is important as this connects the rune to the sacred mountain http://volkisch-runes.blogspot.com/p/hagal.html
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76e33a No.258990
>>258987
>The genuine contributions to learning made by Olaus Wormius have in more recent years been supplanted by a fictional character given his name. H. P. Lovecraft mentioned him as a translator into Latin of his notorious fictional grimoire, the Necronomicon.
http://www.fact-index.com/o/ol/olaus_wormius.html
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be4455 No.258995
>>258990
deem not therefore that thy lightest fancy is witless: it is a word to thee, a prophecy, a sign or signal from thy lord
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76ffb7 No.259382
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