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>>141215

Thank you Q!!

People are averse to any major change in general, but in my experience they (and people that manage them) nearly always underestimate the masses' ability to handle even monumental change. People can be calmly led to any new reality *if* the message is managed calmly and the change is driven by confident and capable hands (POTUS).

The one area I would *not* advocate for disclosure is in detailing the mythology under which these evil people and their power/influence structures have operated for hundreds(+?) of years. Disclosure should be complete and unfiltered with regards to the horrible methods, acts, and atrocities committed by this group, and it is absolutely necessary to prevent a repeat in the future, but sharing these evil (and stupid) people's misguided belief structure will only risk inspiring/attracting weak-willed emo-rebels to mimic their horrible acts in the future - even if only functioning as a kind of pathetic, but locally dangerous, cargo-cult of evil.

Back to managing the change; I know that you and your team already know this, but owning the narrative via the full spectrum of media/entertainment information channels is absolutely key to providing that calm, confident atmosphere for the masses to understand/accept and not panic. Leaks/lead ups prior to that point (full narrative control) will certainly help set the stage, but any risk of credible counter-narratives emerging during such a huge change will increase chances for public uncertainty → panic.

God Bless your team and POTUS!

>>144615

Do not fear chaos.

If we run from chaos, it controls us.

We must walk through the chaos; charge into it with peace in our souls.

That is how we will truly be the calm in the storm.

>>141051

This has legs. There are no other sources in the world that have the reputation for truth that wikileaks has. It is possible this was planned this way. Whatever, in practice there are few people who are better placed

>>144615

Thank you for the youtube link, VERY informative. Good work. We're lucky to have guys like you working on this.

>Nixonian

Understood.

From another anon:

>>154546

This. Staged if necessary, but full disclosure. Do not believe that people can't take, or will wind up in the hospital. That is an excuse to avoid disclosure that would harm important (wealthy) individuals, and institutions that are important to their power. Essentially, the deep state that are not pedos, or trying to take over the country, but still want their power and influence to take their skims. FBI Anon referred to them as the bee-keepers. We are the bees. They take skim the honey and want to keep it that way. FBI Anon said the bee-keepers are against full disclosure. No wonder the CEOs get to walk away without exposure or jail time. Do we really think that is a great job by Potus/Sessions et al? I don't. What info could they have possibly offered to get a deal if deals were refused to HRC and 12 other presumably high-powered individuals. Sorry Q, increased crumbs directly authorized by the POTUS misses the mark for what many anons meant by increased/full disclosure. I think that is obvious from comments here tonight. The CEOs walking away represents the two sets of rules for two classes of people. #lockherup is about more than just HRC. I hope POTUS understands that. It all has to come out for maximum defense against it happening again. It will be far more effective that $700B per year for our great, wonderful military.

Another point to be made about this is, yes,THANK God for Potus, Q, et al. However, the fact that this evil could grow in our system to a point of dominating it for however many years is de facto proof that we cannot trust government operatives and the existing power structure to keep us safe from that evil in the future. Something needs to be changed structurally within it. Something needs to be changed fundamentally in our culture. Hearts, minds and souls must be awake to this reality to help safeguard against it in the future. The spooks and future comeys of the government are incapable

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Several anons have contributed here with the suggestion that supporting ‘full disclosure’ is somehow naive. I believe that this position is understandable, but ultimately naivety itself. We are at a critical crossroads as a species. The evil that has grown in our midst, nearly to the point of our utter global annihilation, can be traced to many underlying causes – a major example being the damage to human development (emotional and intellectual) of severe childhood trauma; a factor that has been fully utilised by generations of cabal psychopaths reproducing their own kind.

One overriding theme can be discerned as this spiritual/social cancer has metastasised amongst us; secrecy. All of this criminality has been facilitated by secrecy – by lack of transparency. This should not surprise anyone. Human beings are basically creatures of love, whose fundamental loving nature can be horribly obfuscated, inverted and smothered by severe trauma and/or mental illness. Some prefer to view this as a battle between good and evil. This is fine as far as it is practical, but ultimately I find it a crude dualism lacking nuance. The evil that has flourished in our midst would never have spread far beyond the sick (evil if you prefer) individuals originating these behaviours if our societies were open, transparent, and resistant to the threat of obfuscation-by-psychopathy that can infect us collectively. It is our very tendency to embrace ‘secrecy’ and ‘lack of transparency’ - specifically in the public realm, a tendency that has been encouraged and spread by the ‘high’ functioning psychopaths among us, that has left us so vulnerable to what has ultimately proven to be a global criminal network that has nearly destroyed us all.

There are excellent reasons to be very careful with the mass public disclosure of these dark truths; after all, we do not raise our children overwhelming them with the negativity of the world before they are ready to absorb it in a balanced way. Too much, too soon – and we end up causing the kind of ‘psychological splitting’ through trauma that is ironically the black heart of psychopathic reproduction. But we absolutely have to commit to a full disclosure – we absolutely have to inoculate ourselves as a species from this ever happening again to us. This has happened to us precisely because lack of transparency in our societies has permitted this evil to arise and spread. Any so-called solution that does not embrace, and plan for, ultimate full global disclosure of everything – without exception – will doom us to repeat this sorry episode. The fear of the damage and chaos that full disclosure could cause is quite legitimate and well reasoned – but ultimately, we really do have no choice. To put it crudely – our problem is of the dark, the solution is of the light.

I would finish with this point: we (the ‘redpilled’) have much to discuss and reflect regarding the tactics of disclosure; what to disclose when, who to disclose it to, how to best disclose. This process may well take generations. However, I believe that the bulk of the disclosure must be committed to within a generation – this is not a can to be kicked endlessly down the road, that is just inviting a new ‘well-intentioned’ culture of secrecy to develop, and the road to hell is paved with good intention like this. I actually think that is precisely how we got here in the first place.

great post

nothing is beyond our reach

The science underneath the entire scheme will bring light on true resolve. Missing catalyst, The Human Primer.

>>155022

Don't forget - that while full disclosure is happening - those who have MOTIVES to lie or distort the truth will. Some will create NEW motives to lie or distort truth. The SOCIALISM narrative is accepted as so good and noble by some.. they will see that as the answer. 2cents - Disclosure - and protection AMERICA and our constitution needs to be a TOP priority.... Some will go underground and try to hide their dissension - ... just a thought.

This is more then knowing the truth. It is a battle for your mind, health and soul. What really happens to your spirit when you die. Energy source for? The Matrix was not far off.

>>155790

I agree with all you said except I think full disclosure needs to occur rapidly precisely for the SHOCK effect. People are not as fragile as everyone here seems to think. We, as a species, have had to endure the most horrifying atrocities and learn how to cope with them and figure out how to move on from there. A slow, normalization, of the shocking truth will neuter the truth of a certain potency which is necessary to shake every person to their core so they can disregard everything that keeps them from working together and make a fundamental structural and cultural change so we can enter a new paradigm. We need the equivalent of another world war, except one where knowledge is used to shatter the old structures, not bombs. Everyone needs to wake up one day to a fundamentally different world outlook that, yes, may be very disturbing, but also instills a resolve to rebuild a better society for generations to come from the ruins of a mental nuclear holocaust.

Amazing post from another Anon. Hope he approves me reposting here:

The question before [us] is one of awful moment to this country. For my own part, I consider it as nothing less than a question of freedom or slavery; and in proportion to the magnitude of the subject ought to be the freedom of the debate. It is only in this way that we can hope to arrive at truth, and fulfill the great responsibility which we hold to God and our country.

[I]t is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the [deep state] for [decades] to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves…

Ask yourselves how [the] reception of our [new elected POTUS] comports with those [terror]like preparations which cover our waters and darken our land.

Are [open borders] and [reoccurring terrorist attacks] necessary to a work of love and reconciliation? Let us not deceive ourselves… These are the implements of war and subjugation; the last arguments to which king’s resort. I ask gentlemen, what means this [push for global governance by the UN, EU, and deep state actors], if its purpose be not to force us to submission? Can gentlemen assign any other possible motive for it? No, sir, she has none. They are meant for us: they can be meant for no other. They are sent over to bind and rivet upon us those chains which the [NWO] have been so long forging. And what have we to oppose to them? Shall we try argument? Sir, we have been trying that for the last ten years. Have we anything new to offer upon the subject? Nothing. We have held the subject up in every light of which it is capable; but it has been all in vain. Shall we resort to entreaty and humble supplication? What terms shall we find which have not been already exhausted? Let us not, I beseech you, sir, deceive ourselves. Sir, we have done everything that could be done to avert the storm which is now coming on.

If we wish to be free– if we mean to preserve inviolate those inestimable privileges for which we have been so long contending–if we mean not basely to abandon the noble struggle in which we have been so long engaged, and which we have pledged ourselves never to abandon until the glorious object of our contest shall be obtained–we must fight!

[The corporate media] tell us, sir, that we are weak; unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be the next week, or the next year? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a [UN guard] shall be stationed in every house? Shall we gather strength by irresolution and inaction? Shall we acquire the means of effectual resistance by lying supinely on our backs and hugging the delusive phantom of hope, until our enemies shall have bound us hand and foot? Sir, we are not weak if we make a proper use of those means which the God of nature hath placed in our power. The millions of people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, and in such a country as that which we possess, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us. Besides, sir, we shall not fight our battles alone. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations, and who will raise up friends to fight our battles for us. The battle, sir, is not to the strong alone; it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. There is no retreat but in submission and slavery! Our [debt] chains are forged! Their clanking may be heard on the [halls of central banks]!

The war is inevitable—and let it come! I repeat it, sir, let it come. It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace– but there is no peace. The war [has] begun! The next gale that sweeps [in] from the [sky] will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!

From another thread:

Hello Q and thank you for your recent disclosure. It's also good to see this information leaking more into the 'mainstream' of the alternative media world. However, to all Anons who have been contemplating our current plight and the condition in which we find ourselves, we need to have an important conversation regarding FULL DISCLOSURE.

The argument that Q team is making is the same as FBI anon. The people cannot handle the whole truth. We will only be given crumbs. 80% private 20% public. We have been given a lot of insight in these discussions and we can infer from the publicly available information enough about what is going on to understand it. But we will not be shown the evidence. It will remain classified. The system will collapse if we hear the truth. There will be revolution. There will be war.

I think most of us agree that certain things need to be temporarily withheld in order for the current operations to be successful. It would be prudent to ensure that all of the evil-doers who are currently in positions of power are jailed or executed prior to doing anything else. But the point that some of us would like to impress upon you (and anyone else who is capable of leaking the information) is that once that is done and the situation is secure, EVERYTHING must be disclosed.

This issue is far too significant to think that we can just go on like normal once the job is complete and the government operatives put the bad guys behind bars. The severity of the crimes deserve justice, but perhaps more significantly, the severity of how deeply compromised and corrupted our system can become warrants a complete and total reassessment of that system. Trusting the government to fix itself will not be sufficient. Everyone in society needs to be given the knowledge of these facts and the opportunity to fix it.

However, our culture is too inoculated from the truth by MSM, schooling, fake politicians, etc for the people to be significantly impacted by the memes we make from our crumbs. Their reality needs to be shattered for them to fully recognize and come to grips with the situation. The evidence of all the hardcore crimes that have been committed must be exposed for everyone in the government and society to have an accurate and complete understanding of what is going on and to realize that we must all work on a solution together. Ignorance, political affiliation, brain washing, blackmail, bribes, etc will prevent mutual cooperation unless everyone receives a SIGNIFICANT shock.

Every man, woman, and child needs to come face to face with this evil and realize that it exists and contemplate how it can totally compromise our system and our society. Only then will we be able to rectify the situation and do our best to prevent it from happening again and eventually bequeath that knowledge to the generations to come.

Some might not like me pushing that idea, but I believe it needs to be discussed and thoroughly considered by more than just the select few. Q et al are using their knowledge of this evil to do good, for now, but they will not always be here. If the evil is not fully exposed to the light, then it will resurface again in the future.

A number of people have made some interesting comments on this topic in the following thread:

https://8ch.net/cbts/res/120430.html#

…if the truth about what has been going on in our government is so hardcore that revealing it would threaten to collapse the current power structure, then maybe that structure needs to be rebuilt. If full knowledge of the horrors of this evil would compel every living soul to rise up against it until it is defeated, then I say, BY GOD WE MUST HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE.

>>158357

100% in agreement. People need a big event to wake up. The matrix needs to be shattered into a million pieces, and only through knowledge of its existence will that happen. People have been lied to their entire lives.

If it doesn't all come out now it will remain an open an oozing sore in America. Everyone loves the idea of a Revolution until it comes to cleaning up the mess. Their sentence must be both punitive and preventive.

God Bless Q and the white hats, the MI and our military. God Bless President Trump.

I am torn. I am 80/20 of Q's original plan.

1) Opinion on Trump >>141051

This right here. Our own people will say we've gone Korea nuts.

2) War. With full disclosure, the world will make war on us. Our republic would end. The US is the last redoubt of freedom. Imagine the world making war on the US, the now-unrecognizable EU +Britbongistan, Russia+China. We can't fight the whole world. And the winners would be the nations who have already been taken over. Evil would swarm in like locusts. Im not surprised to hear other opinions think that this is what the deep state wants, to watch the entire world burn because they didn't get their way now…and they'll pick up the pieces after.

Which is precisely and exactly what they wanted before, when Hillary was going to win….push war with Russia, maybe China and NK if that doesn't work, hide in their bunkers, then emerge to take control of what's left.

Full disclosure ends up with the- exact same results as their original plan-. So an absolute and resounding no.

3) Our government, and our president, need protected…because they are us and they are ours. Our Constitution needs protected. Our nation must stand. America really has been the only free nation, and even that they've been planning to undo since it was settled. We must protect this country, and we must continue to make it better. We can't throw out the baby with the bathwater.

4) People can not take it. They can't. We are different which is precisely WHY we're here. But they can not take it. Run on the banks, collapse of society, War of the Worlds type suicides. The worst has to be kept from the masses, it really does. For peace to happen, yes.

5) We get disclosure. But for the rest of the populace who would slash their wrists, we have to be Batman. Let the worst stay in the realm of plausibly deniable conspiracy theory so that they can sleep at night.

6) But How do we keep this from happening again without disclosure? How do future generations protect themselves if they remain asleep? We need watchers. We need info. We need our social media to be free speech…any social media operating within the US needs to run by US laws, not EU laws. US laws for US citizens.

7) We will spread only to those who are CAPABLE of knowing. We must be the original Freemasons–that was their job–keeping an eye on freedom but sadly they have most probably been corrupted at the top and now they are hard working drones collecting money. But when you are anonymous, there is nothing to corrupt, no organization to infiltrate. Anons will have to carry the messages, keep the light on, and spread to those who are capable and who want to be red-pilled. Not everyone does.

Then Jesus said, "Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear."

>>161796

Full disclosure = showing The Storm is WW and EVERYONE'S PROBLEM. I think this could prevent wars since we all have our own messes to clean up - there are guilty people literally everywhere, nationalism increases = good, world leaders ousted and replaced (by good guys - known because they are NOT in any of the documents/files that are released in this scenario), new tech, new energy… I think human beings can rise to the occasion and all join together in the name of everyone's freedom, not just a select few of the 0.01%.

Release the files. All of them. I think it's the only way this has a chance of being the last time someone has to clean up a mess like this. And DJT is pretty much a once in a millennia kinda hero. I don't like those odds if we don't do this the right (full) way this time.

Concur. If the prosecution of the evil is kept in the dark, Mystery Babylon wins. It MUST be brought to the light.

Forget about the riots. Whoever riots because of the truth being exposed is part of the problem and should be dealt with accordingly.

>>155790

Very well spoken. Secrecy was the incubator for evil, and transparency is the inoculation against it recurring.

>>157702

Yes!

We need to birth a new world, and no birth ever happens without pain!

All of us *need* to be shocked to our core so the lessons learned go to the core. It's the only way forward.

Holding the world together during the transition by careful management is one thing, "protecting" the public against having to face the truth is quite another!

Truth is like good soil where the seeds of love sprout and draw nourishment. There will be TREMENDOUS spiritual growth and social progress in a very short time, once humanity has finally gotten a firm grounding in truth.

>>161796

Do it the Freemason way, you say. Let's stow away the truth and only give it to those we think are worthy of it, you say.

Yeah, that idea worked out really well didn't it?

/sarcasm

D Schultz Killed Seth Rich

Q

Anons, recognize that this petition is not just moral, but playing with fire as well. There may be a greater justice attainable by withholding some portions of disclosure. It would be the absolute worst if full disclosure allowed some sort of escape or subversion once this is all through. Trust that the Q team has it under control.

From another anon:

I have been following this since the beginning. If the implied truths are accepted (cult pedo trafficking cannibalism slavery war as business and genocide) then one must decide. These crimes against humanity require a robust justice backed by deadly force under law. Now, those in authority who claim these facts about known and specific individuals place an obligation upon themselves to remedy the injustice by prompt arrests, trials, and sentences appropriate to the crimes. If no such arrests, trials, and sentences are evident to we the victims and bystanders, we are, by virtue of our knowledge, compelled to act in defense of both the innocent and our selves. This is explicit in the Declaration of Independence "New Guards" language. We, the People will act: if We do not observe the execution of lawful justice upon these heinous criminals, We shall no doubt execute it ourselves…a process which will likely be both more unpleasant and disruptive to society than any mass arrests of the plutocrats and oligarchs.

This thread is just clickbait for people that have no idea what it takes to keep civility.

Sure there is a lot that needs to be revealed, but the people have to want that and do it themselves.

Insinuating that the first administration in a while that would even want that

to happen should bear the responsibility for making it happen,

is like a sucker-punch in the face of the people trying to do it the right way.

>>212685

>is like a sucker-punch in the face of the people trying to do it the right way.

What is the "right way"?

Most people would not believe him if he exposed the truth 100%. The truth is too outrageous for most people to truly comprehend and act on. Better to release little nuggets most people can get behind. The end result will be the same.

If you are looking for a consise answer to all of this, I'd recommend the THRIVE Movement movie on YouTube (it's free in its entirety) . I don't know how I stumbled upon it anons, but it's the summary video of disclosure. I couldn't believe it existed. It's the combination of everything we have seen crumbed to us, what we have inferred, and what we know deep down is true. Not fucking kidding.

>>157702

>Several anons have contributed here with the suggestion that supporting ‘full disclosure’ is somehow naive. I believe that this position is understandable, but ultimately naivety itself. We are at a critical crossroads as a species. The evil that has grown in our midst, nearly to the point of our utter global annihilation, can be traced to many underlying causes – a major example being the damage to human development (emotional and intellectual) of severe childhood trauma; a factor that has been fully utilised by generations of cabal psychopaths reproducing their own kind.

>One overriding theme can be discerned as this spiritual/social cancer has metastasised amongst us; secrecy. All of this criminality has been facilitated by secrecy – by lack of transparency. This should not surprise anyone. Human beings are basically creatures of love, whose fundamental loving nature can be horribly obfuscated, inverted and smothered by severe trauma and/or mental illness. Some prefer to view this as a battle between good and evil. This is fine as far as it is practical, but ultimately I find it a crude dualism lacking nuance. The evil that has flourished in our midst would never have spread far beyond the sick (evil if you prefer) individuals originating these behaviours if our societies were open, transparent, and resistant to the threat of obfuscation-by-psychopathy that can infect us collectively. It is our very tendency to embrace ‘secrecy’ and ‘lack of transparency’ - specifically in the public realm, a tendency that has been encouraged and spread by the ‘high’ functioning psychopaths among us, that has left us so vulnerable to what has ultimately proven to be a global criminal network that has nearly destroyed us all.

>There are excellent reasons to be very careful with the mass public disclosure of these dark truths; after all, we do not raise our children overwhelming them with the negativity of the world before they are ready to absorb it in a balanced way. Too much, too soon – and we end up causing the kind of ‘psychological splitting’ through trauma that is ironically the black heart of psychopathic reproduction. But we absolutely have to commit to a full disclosure – we absolutely have to inoculate ourselves as a species from this ever happening again to us. This has happened to us precisely because lack of transparency in our societies has permitted this evil to arise and spread. Any so-called solution that does not embrace, and plan for, ultimate full global disclosure of everything – without exception – will doom us to repeat this sorry episode. The fear of the damage and chaos that full disclosure could cause is quite legitimate and well reasoned – but ultimately, we really do have no choice. To put it crudely – our problem is of the dark, the solution is of the light.

>I would finish with this point: we (the ‘redpilled’) have much to discuss and reflect regarding the tactics of disclosure; what to disclose when, who to disclose it to, how to best disclose. This process may well take generations. However, I believe that the bulk of the disclosure must be committed to within a generation – this is not a can to be kicked endlessly down the road, that is just inviting a new ‘well-intentioned’ culture of secrecy to develop, and the road to hell is paved with good intention like this. I actually think that is precisely how we got here in the first place.

>>157702

thanks, I take no position on the rapidity of disclosure - I just do not have the data; specifically, I do not know the psychological 'bell-curve' of maturity we are dealing with here. Will 'most' people (at least, a critical number) hold their shit together and not riot and murder in the streets? I also do not know if a SHOCK effect as you describe is a real phenomena (with a positive outcome) or wishful thinking on your part. Get this wrong, potentially billions die. I want this discussed and explored far more than is being done, or even possible, here. Yes, the truth must come out. But are 'we' really not that fragile anon? You know this how?

From another anon:

>>217154

I CALL FUCKING BULLSHIT.

This is so disheartening. There will be no public verification of any events? While I get the overall Big Picture of where this is going… for the overall good of the people, the country and the world…it doesn't explain to the public what the hell was going on behind the scenes and how it is being/was rectified. It also doesn't clarify to the public how they were duped, what to look for, what to do to stop it, and how to prevent it in the future. No one needs/wants to see guillotines, or watch the trials be made public. No one is asking for that. But public verification IS necessary. Yes, there will be those that scream to the sky; but the MAJORITY can handle the truth. It needs to be acknowledged PUBLICLY.

Just how will you justify the complete drop from the public eye for so many IN the public eye? As in, I ==DAMN SURE== don't want to hear some ex-POS-POTUS passed away and we're all supposed to stand and fucking salute his sorry ass for his great service to our country!?!? And I assume our govt will spend millions of dollars in a formal send off party for said sorry ass POTUS? Same goes for anyone from Congress or SoS?! I do not condone any such expenditures. Their "position" does not warrant such, given their actions.

OH HELL NO! Don't fucking patronize WE THE PEOPLE. GET SANCTIMONIOUS SOME PLACE ELSE.

If you are planning to take THAT route, then you are just as bad and corrupt as them. THAT is just more of the same bullshit tactics THEY pulled.

If there is no public acknowledgement for America, then there is no "story over". PERIOD.

And what's with that Bullshit line " Sexual assault victims must be protected"? Absolutely, of course they do. No one asked for names and dates to be published. But by the same token, you can't sweep the magnitude of child sex trafficking world-wide by so many "reputable" people, elites, leadership, and organizations under the rug and pretend like it didn't happen. How are reputable foundations EVER to be trusted again, if no one knows what the bad ones did?How are we ever supposed to trust our food, water, vaccines, electrical components, social media platforms, media, satellites, FBI, CIA, NSA, CURRENT ADMINISTRATION and every other damn government agency again, if there is no clarification, vindication, and affirmation of all of these events? THE PEOPLE ARE STRONGER THAN YOU GIVE THEM CREDIT FOR. Try being fucking honest. You claim to be "for the people", but this looks like more subterfuge, black ops and taking out of the competition, when there is no honesty, transparency and open dialogue with the PEOPLE-when it's time.

The people NEED to be brought up to speed, enlightened and relieved of the pain, pressure, stress and anxiety of all of these pedo/govt/organizations, both nationally and internationally, to fully understand exactly how badly they have been betrayed.

What was the god damn purpose of us MEMEing the world if " we want to turn the tide in a measured predictable way."? You are apparently planning to do all that without our help, so…WTF?So we continue to hide the seedy, corrupt, sick, baby rape, baby eating, blood drinking, torture, trafficking, money stealing, illegal activities of foundations, and CIA-behind-the-scenes-undermining-tactics and all the other fucking lies to save someone's feelings or counteract drama?

NEWS FLASH-A REVOLUTION CAUSES DRAMA!

You think there's not going to be a hell of a lot of questions when people start disappearing? When leadership suddenly doesn't show up in Congress and is never heard from again? Don't fucking tell us to stand up for America; fight, fight, fight; bring out Washington Crossing The Delaware; call us PATRIOTS; invoke pride in our country and tell us we are fighting the good cause, in one breathe, and then tell us, in essence, "no one can know about this. It's all being done behind the scenes and no one can ever know about it." BULLFUCKINGSHIT. That's a ginormous slap in the face to every patriot, every military person, every military family, every victim and every GOD DAMN AMERICAN citizen. Not to mention the international community. You say you have our back. I call you out for the fucking liar that you are. Oneway.

I SMELL A RAT.

THIS is absolute betrayal to those of us here; the rest of America and the rest of the world. If you want a fucking revolution on your hands, then get the damn people involved. WHEN it's safe to do so.

THIS is one more level of corruption using us and the people to hide corruption. THIS is why the people don't trust their government. THIS is why there is no reason to believe anything that we have been told up to this point is the truth.

I thought THIS was finally the administration of clear transparancy?

APPARENTLY WE WERE WRONG.

APPARENTLY WE WERE LIED TO.

ONCE AGAIN.

THE THRIVE MOVEMENT ON YOUTUBE ANONS, IT'S WELL DONE, DIGESTIBLE FOR NORMIES, AND GAMBLE IS REDPILLED AF. please. Not trying to capslock to piss anyone off just trying to get a voice heard.

>>217722

>I want this discussed and explored far more than is being done, or even possible, here. Yes, the truth must come out. But are 'we' really not that fragile anon? You know this how?

Regardless of how fragile we may or may not be and whether we think we can handle the truth or not, the fact of the matter is that the reality of what is hidden IS, in fact, a reality. Whatever the consequences are for recognizing that reality is already sealed in fate.

And the only way that reality ever came about is because of the fact that we did not know about it. The solution is not to remain ignorant of it.

"…if the truth about what has been going on in our government is so hardcore that revealing it would threaten to collapse the current power structure, then maybe that structure needs to be rebuilt. If full knowledge of the horrors of this evil would compel every living soul to rise up against it until it is defeated, then I say, BY GOD WE MUST HAVE THAT KNOWLEDGE."

>>220148

I will watch and report back comments

>>220175

Thank you anon, I'm serious maybe it's too much in some parts (the torus) but it's all the crumbs in one. Banking, energy, loving one another and much more. I really can't describe it and I have no idea how I stumbled upon it but I think the presentation along with the clarity is key

>>141819

yeah right? fearing the unknown is to fear fear itself.

and good luck defending against Subectoplasmians and their Ionicles only an ectofilma-shields are barely useful for minimal protection.

Once the war is won. Yes, maybe a little BTFO let the brainwashed riot it out of their system. Everyone needs to know, the people can choose to accept or not their choice.

#THIS IS IMPORTANT#

There needs to be a plan to remove / prevent psychopaths from public service. There are tests, we don't let all types of people serve why are we allowing baby eaters to pass through?

How can we expect governments to stay pure when we let people who will eat babies join the ranks where due to their no conscious advantage invariably rise to the top?

This is how we got to where we are, we can stop this from repeating: Mandatory Psychopathy screening for public service.

#THIS IS IMPORTANT#

Q why is there NO safe place for whistle-blowers people w/ real evidence abt False flags in past, documented on audio corruption by courts/leos, & evidence of who connected to murders on audio. been attacked/attempted murders/shot at many times/pets killed etc & NO safe place to go? as GOV is still compromised. Yet have info on gov setting up clone operations to a past FF that will tie into a new 1 they R working on the seeding & connections to harm POTUS. U bust those trying to kill me win win for potus & huge bigly win in media. IF Erik is part of Ur team, or IF U all via National Security lvl took over board. U know how to get in touch w/ me. do so. If it is Erik I have great way to confirm it's him as R things I know that only he would know/so match prove creds. There R people still being harmed/killed setup or in hiding w/ fams threatened that R patriots, but hanging on by threads. got it. & no safe place to call. U know how dirty Comey is. can give details easily meta/other proof of dirty BATF/DOJ director too. not rumor humint lived it/ have ways of proving it. & NSA can back all this up

Great way to red pill masses & get all those U need to expose NOW is to get REAL truth about OKBOMB/BOMROB the PATCON teams out. Say like time for release of files was UP like JFK (still not full truth) & dump. Those SAME orgs/people R active now. & they dusted off some shady folks from then, & made there clone operation. & U know the 1s then/now that had ties to clown Phoenix program. 3 ASAP arrests by U all & at least short term safe. Really a potus win win. U know what connected to & how good that would look. 1 convicted pedo on probation gov does nothing about violations. They R domestic terrorists.

The dirt on all those who MUST B immediately EXECUTED does NOT give new folks power. ergo correct expeditious justice of quickly executing all these bastards. NO BS fake crap. no BS lying REAL deaths ASAP. release all truths

Otherwise NO ONE is ever really safe. & it will still go on, & will get worse & happen again. Look YOU NEED to seize & take over the freaking BS clown CIA IN-Q-Tel BBG freaking networks LIKE CNN nationalize it as 24hr USA network. Use repeating shows to explain stuff, give real info & red pill past acts.

Never made sense how UNder trump/Sec state Tillerson w/ full legal authority could have FIXED the BS as the foreign dissemination of new totally controllable that comes out of USA.. so why is CNN still playing in OUR Airports, & allowed to broadcast lies about US that R a threat to US all & National Security allowed to continue?

ASAP freeze/seize ALL assets CIA & their literally100s of thousands fronts, & those they control via $ given through programs before & then In-Q-Tel & BBG Broadcasting Board of Governors. they get all the back doors violate ALL of our Civil & Human rights & fuck us all over. end it. They run at least 2 of largest global lawfirms DLA Piper (totally does In-Q-Tel, & tied to false flags etc. U know this) & Sidley Austin. then the domestic firms like those connected to Comey's past. means US takes over Lockhead Martin. Raytheon, Emhart, Black & Decker, TRW, Iridium, Boeing, SAIC, Booze allen hamilton, RAND, tons of Foundations, counsels & BS..

Do it. U know how they all got there. easily traceable & so many in the know R still alive.

ALL companies tied to BUSH fam/extended fam U know R crooked & from CIA drug/arms running & why as soon as George HW Poppy was VP illegally had TON of SEC records to do w/ his families businesses for 10 years pulped!! WE kNOW. We've known for decades. Jebs “board mtg” ordered Barry Seal murder, then his missing plane found on W's Crawford TX ranch

The stupid parts Q posts R not inherently proper to use for psychological motivation. the U sick yet? or too much to swallow. NO nothing none of it is. WE KNOW. WE want FULL disclosure & some of us need REAL help ASAP as lives in danger. & come out & trying to fight like hell w/ what we have left to fight a battle to the death to save a future for our children. Understand. but NEED some help. 2 many dead from all this shit. Need some help as NONE coming from county/state all corrupt, & NONE from ANY gov agency at all. Yet they have proof, U can prove this easy.

>>123217 then IF Q is part of Putus plans then they are deluded, & no better than the death we already have. Just a shortly postponed death.

Also seems Potus is too isolated. He is also old and vulnerable. He knows it, & constantly in danger. Pence GOP is NOT who we voted for. And once Trump named him as running mate it really made many people stop believing what he was saying was true, same for cabinet & other posts. Lots of career bad guys.. So we have problems, he has problems. GOP/BS Republicans stuck him w/ PENCE to get support. Same time GOP was & is planning his downfall. Thing is we need to show GOP they are the same as Dems & we will not tolerate them or their candidates. enough of the bread & circus false perception of choice w/ no choice and all owned/controlled by same masters just a different flavor/faction fighting for higher rank/protection/goodies in NWO. Its all a deadmans game.

WE need Potus to be healthy protected & be able to do real things. But IF he is not going to do the right things for us to be free we only exchange our cages/or where our chains on us end on other end.

He is oldest to take office. Understand that. That is a problem. They also give him crap when he goes to get fresh air, sunshine, a little exercise, relax and golf/chat. Insane as he runs his WH & is active. O was out having homo sex, & w/ choom gang & he was total puppet so WH ran even is he was dead & stuffed in a chair.

So if U are saying Q told u NO disclosure on this stuff. then we will have to end up in a bloody uprise against them.. I am already dead.. so will do what ever it takes to protect my children, their future, safety and freedom.

It makes NO sense not to disclose make public what MUST be made public. This is how he will get the insane/mentally worthless left to at least not burn down all our cities. They will continue to ruin his presidency. The whole damn Gang of 8, a most critical body is full of criminals, leakers & need to be arrested asap.

Look all past pres need to have security clearances removed ASAP. NEED EO that Obama's records he is hiding, & all PAST presidents belong to USA people. the A is critical. not the US corporation but real USA.

Q first off have Trump order EPA or who ever to stop putting freaking BS chemicals in USA water supply that are 1st off hazmat controlled toxic industrial byproducts, but that are & were in past used to control make gulag/camp prisoners docile, & STUPID.. blocks up our high functioning centers of brain pituitary. U do that may go a long way on helping spread truth to drugged poisoned population. People were shocked that he never stopped it and still allowed. We could have been 1 year into it & people detoxed by now. DO IT. THAT would B a HUGE proof to us that Trump really means what all this eludes to being.

>>144615

OK I figure from what U wrote a few things. U are young, & you only recently redpilled. George Webb does get some stuff. but understand all of this has made him a bit nutty. It does that. Because how else can you explain him constantly protecting Obama. Saying oh Im sure that was not him, he did not do that etc..

Also you confuse a few things here. Not all disclousure effects other countries.. in a negative way as most dead or handled. You think this way seems because a recent red pill. Understand controlled pimped out whore that USA has become is responsible for millions & millions of genocide/murders/assassinations/& fucking w/ everyones elections.

But US Deep State has done crime upon crime against USA at home. Name a mass shooting, bombing, etc & not BS, but some facts & people who had some intel or heads up before hand it there. U will also find very public federal drills. Everyone in DC etc has known USA is freaking supporting terror. Started w/ Mujahedin (all always Israel source of global hell terror, the hub for porn, abuse of children, sacrifice, & organs ok.. it is Kingdom de la Rothschild always was, has NOTHING to do w/ the House of Israel or those of line of Jacob… got it.. the scams/control & ancient sick shit is really old & that is how the roman catholic church created & what they forged for control of masses. Roths control all their money banking in bed w/ them. See pics of Popes bowing kissing ring of Roths many through the years to many dif living Roths contemporary) Mujahadine then rebranded over night to btw w/ the name of a CIA computer database like DOJ uses for our mil, but for israel/Crown corp/UK/US terrorists around world.. they think that is funny.. it was a big joke laughed at all over DC parties, etc.. even mentioned in UK parliament & yet sheep are so stupid & media lies. Al nusra front many factions etc then over night called them ISIS. over night recall that.