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cae2c4 No.36

General thread but starting off looking at the Book of Joshua.

There are lots of interesting things in this. For instance, what actually is the Ark? Why does it cause the waters to be heaped up?

Chapter 5:

And it shall come to pass, as soon as the soles of the feet of the priests that bear the ark of the LORD, the Lord of all the earth, shall rest in the waters of Jordan, that the waters of Jordan shall be cut off from the waters that come down from above; and they shall stand upon an heap.

14 And it came to pass, when the people removed from their tents, to pass over Jordan, and the priests bearing the ark of the covenant before the people;

15 And as they that bare the ark were come unto Jordan, and the feet of the priests that bare the ark were dipped in the brim of the water, (for Jordan overfloweth all his banks all the time of harvest,)

16 That the waters which came down from above stood and rose up upon an heap very far from the city Adam, that is beside Zaretan: and those that came down toward the sea of the plain, even the salt sea, failed, and were cut off: and the people passed over right against Jericho.

17 And the priests that bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD stood firm on dry ground in the midst of Jordan, and all the Israelites passed over on dry ground, until all the people were passed clean over Jordan.

Now, lets put to one side that the river Jordan then is the same river as today as that river is a trickle. I understand it is possible to just walk across. Maybe the climate was wetter then, though, leading the Jordan to be fuller.

Another hypothesis is that the River Jordan is in the sky, similar to the Nile. What the Norse called the Bifrost maybe, running up from the north pole. But a more likely river in the sky would be rings around the Earth left by the Great Flood - sea spray, same as Saturn's rings. I ma privately convinced that if it were possible to bring back a sample from those rings they would have the same salinity as the sea on Earth.

But assuming they aren't talking about anything in the sky or anything in modern-day Palestine, Fomenko hypothesised that they were talking about the River Bosphorus in modern-day Turkey. Which is a big impressive water-course, could not possibly be forded and would have enough water to heap up as described in Chapter 5. He also identified an island where he thought the twelve stones were deposited.

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cae2c4 No.38

>>36

But what is the Ark? If this is the Bosphorus, what is happening to heap up water and what is the connections to the Ark?

One theory (thought up by me but maybe others have said this before) is that ark is 'arc', that is, crescent. Crossing overhead pushes the water away by electric repulsion so dries out the river bed temporarily.

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cae2c4 No.55

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Just caught a great one. I have long been confused about the etymology of Bethlehem.

Bethlehem -> Birth-le-ham -> Town of the Nativity

But people keep telling me the etymology of Bethlehem means House of Bread, which made no sense to me. Plus I generally regard "Hebrew" as a made up language and at best a script for dialects of Arabic.

But then it clicked. A house of bread means an oven.

If the Great Flood was caused by the same flaring of Saturn that created the Saurnian rings (plainly visible by telecope from Earth and needing no computer enhancement) then that spray would have left equatorial rings aroumd Earth too.

Being in the Northern Hemisphere those rings would be likely banded and rippling - the Seas Above, the Seven Seas, the reeds. A sort of broad inverted U shape in the southern skies.

And a night there would be the shadow of the Earth on these spectacularly backlit ring. And the whole thing would look like a vast bread oven in the sky. Pictured.

So in St. Matthew's Gospel, when the new star appears in the east and settles over Bethlehem, that means it is in the southern sky, over the bright rings and black "doorway"

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fcaa70 No.76

I have been reading Chapter 2 of the Acts of the Apostles in the New Testament.

https://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/Acts-Chapter-2/

It is quite striking:

1 And when the day of Pentecost was fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.

2 And suddenly there came a sound from heaven as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled all the house where they were sitting.

3 And there appeared unto them cloven tongues like as of fire, and it sat upon each of them.

4 And they were all filled with the Holy Ghost, and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.

5 And there were dwelling at Jerusalem good friends, devout men, out of every nation under heaven.

6 Now when this was noised abroad, the multitude came together, and were confounded, because that every man heard them speak in his own language.

7 And they were all amazed and marvelled, saying one to another, Behold, are not all these which speak Galilaeans?

8 And how hear we every man in our own tongue, wherein we were born?

9 Parthians, and Medes, and Elamites, and the dwellers in Mesopotamia, and in Judaea, and Cappadocia, in Pontus, and Asia,

10 Phrygia, and Pamphylia, in Egypt, and in the parts of Libya about Cyrene, and strangers of Rome, good friends and proselytes,

11 Cretes and Arabians, we do hear them speak in our tongues the wonderful works of God.

A rush of wind, and flames leaping about them? That sounds like an electrical discharge, maybe even interplanetary.

A rush of wind - an electric field moving through the air (a current) does push the wind before it. That is the nature of electric fields and can be demonstrated with a charged comb and trickle of water. A lot of weather will be electric in origin.

Then there are flames leaping among them, cloven tongues of fire, but they don't get burnt. Sounds exactly like a electric current passing nearby, but not directly discharging through them. They are not struck by lightening and exploded by the current is passing around them. Presumably from whichever celestial body was nearby.

Then everyone is reduced to speaking in tongues and their speech and language is confused - where have we heard this before? With the fall of the Tower of Babel, something hypothesised as a towering electrical pillar at the North Pole which may or may not have been at the same time as the Fall of Man, the fall of the Saturnian system.

But maybe these electric shocks were common in antiquity. What we have though is a strange situation. The events of the life of Jesus mark the end of Antiquity. Jesus is firmly in antiquity but the modern age begins right after, with St Paul and his letters and the emergence of real history and the clarification of dates between 1200AD and 1600AD in conventional chronology.

What occurs to me is that the event of the Pentecost was world-wide and zapped everyone brains by the sudden electrical shift, while leaving them unharmed, that the previous age ended then and there. There might not have been much damage but the old kingdoms and who ruled and who was ruled ended at that point, with the Pentecost of Jesus. It would explain a lot.

There is also a question of the Second Coming and the events in Revelation - whether they were foretold or whether a record of the catastrophic times of what I take to be the final visitation of Mars - presumably 15 years after the events of Jesus.

Whatever happened the dislocation was total, as there has been no continuity of the prior age. And seemingly, no one seems to have been able to write until after too. Maybe only using consonant-markings before as a memory aid to reciting, not literature in the modern sense. But right after we have St Paul firing letters everywhere (Jesus, while reciting scripture from memory, is never said to have written more than the symbols in the dust for the Woman Taken in Adultery. Did writing even exist then?) and suddenly Chaucer is publishing a story-book of pilgrimages finally the New and Old testaments are published.

The point being is that by taking 1200AD as the start point, it fits with a catastrophe that by affecting memory and language would utterly overturn society and history. And the Pentecost sounds rather like that.

Also the total loss of every nation in this passage is interesting. It is a sign of discontinuity and after the Pentecost those nations are jumbled together and understanding each other. Following this theory, because their minds have been reset.

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