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A wizard is never late. Nor is he early; he arrives precisely when he means to.

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 No.1158

>The New Shadow was an incomplete sequel (approximately 13 pages) to The Lord of the Rings that J.R.R. Tolkien quickly abandoned. It is set in the time of Eldarion, Aragorn's son, approximately 105 years after the Fall of the Dark Tower. In it is mentioned the Dark Tree, and two new characters: Saelon and Borlas.

I just found out about this and I was wondering about your thoughts on it.

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 No.1161

I fully understand why he felt it was getting too real. It emphasizes how depressing Tolkien's lifework was; everything always became shittier as time went by and there was only a fleeting promise of salvation at the end of time.

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 No.1170

>>1161

/thread

but seriously, what you OP just listed is like, literally everything on the subject. Anyone who knows a thing or two about human nature will know that Gondor didn't last forever. Even the 4th Age didn't technically last forever.

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 No.1172

>>1170

This.

Ultimately it wouldn't have been the kind of story Tolkien would like, but he also couldn't help think and write about it.

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 No.1180

>>1161

I can even feel this just over the passage of LotR. The first book is more fanciful in ways, while the ending or RotK feel mornful even though Sauron has been defeated. The enchantment fades more and passes into the west which is no longer even in Arda anymore.

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 No.1181

>>1180

I get what you mean. Even the main characters seem depressed enough about how things turned out that they fuck out of reality. The reward of hobbitdom is to be left alone until they disappear from memoery, Elessar is just well-mannered Conan the Cimmerian instead of Jesus (who's appearance will also be a huge disappointment in the distant sequel the New Testament) and most of the wonders seen during the trip are already fading away when the hobbits get back home.

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 No.1182

>>1161

Just like IRL

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