/animus/ - AvatarFag CircleJerk

SIN FOR THE SUN GOD

crabs with jade

>>2463859

Jade bowls to eat the crabs off.

fukken classy af

DE RE CLINE

kEEP IT NOIDED!

>>2463853

D O T A

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>>2463854

HI luka

shit we made it to two new threads?

who would have thot

>>2463871

Yup, people will know strength.

I got nothing else to mix it with. I'm probably not even hungry. Just eating because I can.

>>2463878

Well I'll have a bash and practice.

>>2463882

coomers will love femgina as usual

disruptor is also really good this patch and a hero i really enjoy

have fun scanner-kun~

playing ranked or casual

>>2463858

jade has crabs?

Dota is just how I remembered it.

Torture.

did'ya win

>>2463891

nah dad, I got accused for feeding.

>>2463892

plans for rest of the day?

>>2463854

I think you are kewl

>>2463896

Hello.

>>2463897

what up

>>2463898

It's a good day. How is yours?

>>2463901

Cute gif

>>2463903

I don't think I have see you before

>>2463904

Everything okay?

>>2463899

>>2463900

i got cofe

>>2463906

Really? I just went for coffee now

>>2463908

I mean not in the last thread, but nice to meet you

>>2463907

nice :)

>>2463910

Do you still have some coffee with you?

>>2463911

Please sleep well when you do

>>2463912

mhm i sip slow

>>2463913

Me too. It's nice having the same drink with someone else

>>2463914

it is it is

>>2463915

How were your days since the last time?

>>2463916

pretty ok i think

>>2463917

Me too. I'm glad to see you again

:)

>>2463919

Cute smile

ok i go sleep

>>2463921

Sleep tight Gabby.

MAX MOE FO OF DICKS

>>2463923

How are you?

>>2463924

That's good. Any plans today?

>>2463927

Me too and I had eggs too.

>>2463927

Canadians on US proxies eat eggs?

>>2463930

How do you like your eggs?

>>2463932

Scrambled

Probably blood chan

>>2463894

immortals are shiny rare items in dota just below arcana level

wr immortals are p cute

>>2463903

is this madeleine?

>>2463937

>>2463937

>>2463937

>>2463940

>>2463941

goddem

good*

>>2463963

>>2463957

>>2463955

Very cute.

>>2463965

You're right it is fun. Any good dreams?

>>2463969

Do you sleep with no problem right?

>>2463971

Morning cutie.

>>2463973

How is it going?

>>2463975

Well sleeping with no issues is always good

>>2463974

extremely sleepy/drained

>>2463977

Take a nap?

>>2463978

working

>>2463981

gimme a reminder

Waow

>>2463848

Yehey. Was looking for this thread

NAP TIME!

>>2463994

love for war god

>>2463949

i wouldn't mind sharing a few

>>2463955

qtie

>>2463965

too much sleep bad for you

>>2463986

ausneets?

>>2463979

How are you now?

>>2463981

Any way to prepare eggs is good

>>2463980

Cute.

>>2463999

Hey, man.

It's ya boy. Big S.

Still wasting your life with these freaks, huh?

>>2463999

>- two women pleasuring themselves in HUMAN-SIZED MOUNDS of Chocobo shit

>- three human women (except for their gils) exposing themselves in a Pokemon setting

>- femboy versions of Hellboy's fish-man with massive breasts and a dick in chastity

>Most of these were rendered in CG and thus there were a lot of them.

Kanra, what the actual fuck are you still doing projecting yourself onto these avatars. The reason that we project, the reason we as humans have evolved that faculty, is to examine critically the contents of the personal and collective unconscious. If you have been projecting yourself, and your unconscious contents, onto these avatars and communities to act as a mirror into your psyche for this long without result then there needs to be some serious reorientation of your value structures.

The very first time you talked to me on steam you drunkenly told me you loved me. A socially inept, psychotically lonely troll who's only interest was being as obnoxiously annoying as possible in order to explore his own psyche. I wasn't your friend, I was too terrible a human being to be anyone's friend. And these people ARE NOT your friends. They're as awful as I was, if not worse.

God it pains me.

What's going on, man.

also, you sound like an asshole. This is a perfectly fine waste of time.

obsessing over data streams.

>>2464004

>proof you're who you say you are.

What would constitute proof for you?

>do you drink at all these days?

No. I remember last we talked that was something I was flaunting, very unwisely. Alcohol unfortunately interferes with every aspect of my cognition. It was either alcohol or a functional psyche, so I sacrificed it.

>There is no reason for any of this.

You say that, yet you are more or less bound to this place like a terrible curse you cannot break. Whenever I'm confused about a persons true motivating factors I watch what they do, not what they say, kanra.

>>2464007

Steve, you idiot.

>>2464009

but when is the unconscious actually consciousness that people at some points can see?

Then again, idiocy could be idiocy and some people will always be a fucking idiot.

>>2464009

I've been studying non-stop since we last talked. A conversation about that would be marred by your skepticism and my inarticulate conceptual schemata.

I think there is, without question, an observable phenomenology of the unconscious on the personal and collective levels of analysis; both being open investigation by natural science.

>>2464010

>but when is the unconscious actually consciousness that people at some points can see?

They're contradictory categories, you fucking moron.

>>2464010

So all the things you're aware of in your brain: consciousness

All the things you're not aware of in your brain: unconscious?

>>2464013

>What have you studied?

Everything that I should have been studying instead of engaging with idiots on the internet.

>Your schemata that you cannot put into words.

> It's a feeling that guides your reason.

We haven't spoken in a while, I'd rather know how you're doing. Believe it or not I think of you every now and again with tremendous guilt.

>>2464015

When we were talking years ago? Absolutely.

>>2464015

Phil/psych

>>2464018

>>2464018

>I mean now. Are you a charlatan now? Can a narcissist not try to project themselves as awesome?

Just so you know, similarly to yourself, I was abused very severely throughout my life. You began speaking with me around the height of that abuse. I apologize for who I was as a consequence of that, and as a consequence of my own failings as an individual. You deserved far better from me.

Also, alright, smartass.

Collective unconscious:

A structural layer of the human psyche containing inherited elements, distinct from the personal unconscious.

>The collective unconscious contains the whole spiritual heritage of mankind’s evolution, born anew in the brain structure of every individual.[The Structure of the Psyche,”CW 8, par. 342.]

Jung derived his theory of the collective unconscious from the ubiquity of psychological phenomena that could not be explained on the basis of personal experience. Unconscious fantasy activity, for instance, falls into two categories.

>"First, fantasies (including dreams) of a personal character, which go back unquestionably to personal experiences, things forgotten or repressed, and can thus be completely explained by individual anamnesis. Second, fantasies (including dreams) of an impersonal character, which cannot be reduced to experiences in the individual’s past, and thus cannot be explained as something individually acquired. These fantasy-images undoubtedly have their closest analogues in mythological types. . . . These cases are so numerous that we are obliged to assume the existence of a collective psychic substratum. I have called this the collective unconscious."[The Psychology of the Child Archetype,”CW 9i, par. 262.]

>"The collective unconscious-so far as we can say anything about it at all-appears to consist of mythological motifs or primordial images, for which reason the myths of all nations are its real exponents. In fact, the whole of mythology could be taken as a sort of projection of the collective unconscious. . . . We can therefore study the collective unconscious in two ways, either in mythology or in the analysis of the individual."[“The Structure of the Psyche,”CW 8, par. 325.]

The more one becomes aware of the contents of the personal unconscious, the more is revealed of the rich layer of images and motifs that comprise the collective unconscious. This has the effect of enlarging the personality.

>"In this way there arises a consciousness which is no longer imprisoned in the petty, oversensitive, personal world of the ego, but participates freely in the wider world of objective interests. This widened consciousness is no longer that touchy, egotistical bundle of personal wishes, fears, hopes, and ambitions which always has to be compensated or corrected by unconscious counter-tendencies; instead, it is a function of relationship to the world of objects, bringing the individual into absolute, binding, and indissoluble communion with the world at large."[The Function of the Unconscious,”CW 7, par. 275.]

our shared Christianity.

all of us humans experience Christ unconsciously.

>>2464020

Not quite. There is an interesting experiment you can perform on chickens that have been raised in captivity, and have had no encounters with hawks. Simply, you fly a hawk shape above their pen and they react as if they're about to die. A simple hawk cry will elicit the same response. Rats, for example, bred in captivity, and mice, for generations; with a heritage going back to the 50's, will react in a petrified manner to the scent of a cat. These chickens and rats are probably experiencing something subjectively similar to the effects and affects of our human collective unconscious.

This is a drastic oversimplification. A less layman conceptualization would be something akin to a genetically encoded template which can be read from the sympathic nervous system and abstracted up through lymbic system until it hits our prefrontal cortex as an experienced conscious phenomena.

>>2464021

Chris is an archetype, so, we experience fragments of that story in our own lives by virtue of the fact we contend with human existence.

Also, kanra ...

Usually what happens to naive people, if they're awake, and thinking, is something akin to a development of a skeptical and cynical worldview. This is, quite rightly, a defense mechanism used to shield oneself from the world and ones own foolishness; which must, to some degree, be accounted for to come to terms with it. However, cynicism is as poisonous as it is protective.

I see a tremendous cynicism in you.

>>2464025

Every man has an internal model of the feminine, of the female nature, which they derive from experience with the mother. You are who you are because you failed to differentiate that internal model from the individual that consists of your own mother, and therefore by extension failing to differentiate it from other women, and so you have identified with this model instead of recognizing it as a simulacrum. Which is the reason you act like a woman.

Faggot.

>>2464027

>>2464027

Your sexual fetishes and internalization of those lifestyle aspects, developed in tandem with the identification with the inner female, are compensatory elements of your psyche. You will always and forever be unconsciously drawn towards depravity and debasement as your unconscious attempt to correct the horrific imbalance of your mind and desires and psychic constitution.

You are beyond insult. You are beyond humiliation. You are beyond morality. You exist as a sterile, ethically immobile consumer. You will live for as long as you possibly can via the imperious fear of death your hermaphoridic psychopathological parasite of a personality clings to like a parasite; sucking the life out of anything beautiful or good you could have been.

>>2464029

>Have you heard of split-brain studies?

Yes, they're very interesting.

>But for humans, we study the mythology of Moses?

Your experience of the personal unconscious is similar in aspect, but not degree, of the relationship of groups (group identities) and their "experiences" with collective unconscious contents.

>>2464029

You dream, correct? And those dreams are comprised of your personal experiences, biases, prejudices, fears, failings, successes, loves, losses, understandings, misunderstandings, colors, shapes, sounds, smells and thoughts ... all uniquely yours.

Well, the collective unconscious is where a civilization "dreams". You comprise one of the actors inside that dream.

>>2464031

Also, Kanra, this is a great example of why you're here and why you seemingly refuse to leave; this idiot, loco, whoever he is, is debasing himself further in order to draw my attention.

His unconscious is trying to elicit further criticism, from me, in an attempt to "compensate" for his inability to introspect critically. He's functionally outsourcing this task to others.

>>2464035

Is this really you, kanra? You don't really seem ... as sharp as I remember you.

Peterson is where you point people when they don't have the constitution to investigate hermeticism properly.

>>2464037

just make sure it's clean.

Well, I have no Idea how you're doing but I hope it's well ...

nicotine. oxytocin. caffeine. dopamine. serotonin. adrenaline. cannabinoids.

They fire in patterns, yes. But the shape you end up with isn't Jesus unless you're trying to find the picture of Jesus.

>>2464040

That's a profoundly useless frame of reference to assert as useful in the fight against the claim of the numinous enormity of utility and motivational force of mythology.

>>2464041

You fundamentally have misapprehended the definition of an archetype. I infer that wastelander has had some sort of encounter with Jungian psychology and his failure to comprehend it is souring your potential reception of my articulations?

>>2464040

>I've been getting that a lot lately haha

Did you ever fix your sleep schedule? Sleep is vital to health.

>>2464044

>Give me several examples of the motivational force of mythology.

Are you familiar at all with: the entirety of human history, you fucking idiot?

>>2464046

>The love of the Virgin Mary and its relation to all maternal love, emenates throughout our collective unconscious.

To fully explain this you need to have a working understanding of complexes.

>Occasionally, I see a woman draped in blue in my dreams.

>That women represents my mother, as well as the maternal drive.

Probably not, actually.

She likely is a personification of your Anima (the inner woman). The Anima serves as the representation of your unconscious as such in dreams, and serves as the personification of your projection making faculties. The blue dress, blue being the color of water, a favorite representation of the unconscious itself in dream symbolism, being adorned by the Animus strongly supports this interpretation.

>Who are you to tell me what my made up symbols about my made up dreams mean?

Archetypes of the collective unconscious are not personal. They are to you as the instinct of those lab rats is to the cat scent. You have no control over the content, only the formulations they take; and even then, only unconsciously.

The unconscious in archetypal symbolic representation is depicted by the mind as watery, blue, wet, dark, deep, feminine, etc. You have no control over this. The chicken has no say in whether or not it is terrified of the sound of a hawk.

>>2464049

From pure induction ...

It seems like your position is that the rational mind, the intellect, the ego, if you will, the central complex in the field of consciousness more apty, is the place from which our hierarchical value structures should be created; out of pure reason, with a goal in mind. The unconscious is to be contended with as an enemy.

Nature, when it defeats us, is a victor over us and has subjected us to its will.

You see these symbols and myths as mere opponents.

>>2464049

>>2464050

Although my intuition tells me your primary internal conflict, the one which consumes you and has consumed you since your consciousness first emerged from the unconsciousness of childhood, is that which rages between your ego and your person.

Who you are, and who you "should" be.

>>2464051

Ego and persona*

Islam doesn't have to be true for it to lead to a sense of enlightenment and purpose and belonging and ease psychological ills.

maybe I am dull.

This place being kept alive by Kanra's autism fits with some random pony/furry is somehow sadder than it just being dead.

>>2464059

You're just in the corner, jerking off by yourself after he left. Just hang your hat and let it die.

>>2464063

>Also maybe fuck you for publically calling me a "socially inept, psychotically lonely troll who's only interest was being as obnoxiously annoying as possible in order to explore his own psyche."

I was referring to myself, kanra. Not you.

>>2464054

Well, you're confirming my analysis right here.

You're detailing how you, and others like you, or those you determine are like you, are asserting their will (reason) against nature (genetically programmed instincts and behavioral patterns).

>Having a sex organ and the desire to fuck doesn't mean we need to procreate.

This is your assertion of will against nature. Precisely what I said your point is.

>>2464063

>(pretty sure you're still RACIST AS FUCK).

Watching black fascism rise in America has definitely concerned me.

>>2464067

>>2464068

i know this is kind of like your thing but stop posting this shit

>>2464070

sums up the thread at this point now honestly. it always devolves into this anymore. niggers, this, niggers that.

>>2464073

you go fuck yourself you piece of spraying shit

>>2464074

You might be the only poster more unwelcome than me.

>>2464076

That's not saying much because no one even comes here anyhow or will start to. No one would care if there would be more people here. I'd be background noise. Instead I've just posted to try to keep it alive...

>>2464077

Your MO is that you're a slice of the awfulness of /b/. You're like... 90% unwelcome. 10% yea I guess

>>2464071

Will is conscious exertion of effort. You can measure it by tracking glucose levels on the brain during cognitive processing tasks.

Nature constitutes the elemental laws of reality that one must come to terms with in order to exert ones will effectively.

ALSO

That refutation of the chicken experiment was idiotic; repeated exposure to initially terrifying experiences dampens the fear response in animals. The chickens will learn to ignore the stimuli when it isnt associated with the expected death.

>>2464078

others are allowed to have their opinion on my intentions. Oh well. I'll make myself like everyone else and just let the board die sometime.

>>2464080

no wait

Boi

>>2464081

1. They're domesticated chickens, and so differentiation between categorical allotments inside the set of things assigned "flying bird of prey that may eat me" is not open to free development.

2. There exists a category in the birds mind, pre-programmed, that informs it that any flying overheard shape is terrifying.

3. I can name you about 50 research papers on similar instances. Mice smelling cats, for example? They are a far better analogue for human neurology. Chickens diverged from humans quite a while ago.

>>2464085

How am I supposed to do that?

Jung's work alone totals 70k pages.

>Write out a post or two that summarize and convey your ideas on:

>How am I supposed to do that?

>Jung's work alone totals 70k pages.

REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>2464087

Are you alright, man? It seems like you're losing your fucking mind.

>>2464085

That's an unreasonable request, is my point.

It doesn't make sense to demand that.

Give me the key points with a fair amount of detail and explain how they're related.

Yes, I am losing my fucking mind.

>>2464084

keep the guy company atleast

>>2464092

I will get right on that, lmao.

But yeah, my dude, are you sleeping? You know sleeping less than 7 hours a night on average will fuck up your mind?

But, man, like, consider this.

Let's say we are discussing quantum physics. There is really no way to articulate a high level mathematical abstraction cogently outside of the parameters of a grammar composed entirely of high level abstractions.

You cannot really simplify a truly sophisticated idea or set of ideas.

Also, kanra, this woman in your dreams dressed in blue; do you talk to her? How do you know she represents your mother?

keep your pity for yourself.

you suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck.

if you're going to fuck off without a sincere attempt to demonstrate the detailed connections between your points,

save the well-wishes and sympathy and concern for me or my life or my well-being.

It's a greivous insult coming from a fraud like you.

>>2464103

I don't just watch these threads all day, kanra.

>It's a greivous insult coming from a fraud like you.

Fair enough.

>>2464101

>>2464100

Alright, bud. Let's start with "archetype" ...

Archetype:

Primordial, structural elements of the human psyche. (See also archetypal image and instinct.)

>"Archetypes are systems of readiness for action, and at the same time images and emotions. They are inherited with the brain structure-indeed they are its psychic aspect. They represent, on the one hand, a very strong instinctive conservatism, while on the other hand they are the most effective means conceivable of instinctive adaptation. They are thus, essentially, the chthonic portion of the psyche . . . that portion through which the psyche is attached to nature."["Mind and Earth," CW 10, par. 53.]

>"It is not . . . a question of inherited ideas but of inherited possibilities of ideas. Nor are they individual acquisitions but, in the main, common to all, as can be seen from [their] universal occurrence.["Concerning the Archetypes and the Anima Concept," CW 9i, par. 136.]

Archetypes are irrepresentable in themselves but their effects are discernible in archetypal images and motifs.

>"Archetypes . . . present themselves as ideas and images, like everything else that becomes a content of consciousness."[On the Nature of the Psyche," CW 8, par. 435.]

"Archetypes are, by definition, factors and motifs that arrange the psychic elements into certain images, characterized as archetypal, but in such a way that they can be recognized only from the effects they produce.["A Psychological Approach to the Trinity," CW 11, par. 222, note 2.]

Jung also described archetypes as "instinctual images," the forms which the instincts assume. He illustrated this using the simile of the spectrum.

"The dynamism of instinct is lodged as it were in the infra-red part of the spectrum, whereas the instinctual image lies in the ultra-violet part. . . . The realization and assimilation of instinct never take place at the red end, i.e., by absorption into the instinctual sphere, but only through integration of the image which signifies and at the same time evokes the instinct, although in a form quite different from the one we meet on the biological level.["On the Nature of the Psyche," CW 8, par. 414.]

"Psychologically . . . the archetype as an image of instinct is a spiritual goal toward which the whole nature of man strives; it is the sea to which all rivers wend their way, the prize which the hero wrests from the fight with the dragon."[Ibid., par. 415.]

Archetypes manifest both on a personal level, through complexes, and collectively, as characteristics of whole cultures. Jung believed it was the task of each age to understand anew their content and their effects.

>"We can never legitimately cut loose from our archetypal foundations unless we are prepared to pay the price of a neurosis, any more than we can rid ourselves of our body and its organs without committing suicide. If we cannot deny the archetypes or otherwise neutralize them, we are confronted, at every new stage in the differentiation of consciousness to which civilization attains, with the task of finding a new interpretation appropriate to this stage, in order to connect the life of the past that still exists in us with the life of the present, which threatens to slip away from it.["The Psychology of the Child Archetype," CW 9i, par. 267.]

>>2464102

And you know something, I don't come back here to check up on you because I want to express sympathy.

I come here to remind you that you're wasting your potential, and you know it.

Imagine realizing there's a family history of mental illness you are probably dealing with early versions of and only gets worse with age, going to see a psychotherapist, and he talks about how your entire family was living in disharmony with their archetypes.

so many words

>>2464108

They don't simply predict our behavior, they constitute the foundations of it.

>>2464109

That's literally what a psychoanalytical therapist does.

You, for example, are fighting against your instincts. Repressing them, and repressing their implications, consciously. Which creates a great deal of neurotic tension.

You're clearly possessed by your anima. And so a great deal of your ego is unconscious and undefinable to you.

>>2464110

Yeah, how absolutely preposterous. Imagine if a psychotherapist developed a theory of the mind that involved an analytical approach to the deconstruction of the family unit.

How absurd would it be if the therapist then abstracted out of that theory a model of the complex emotional interactions between mother and son, perhaps? What if he then, absurdly, related a myth to this model?

Oedipus.

I'm taling about the Oedipus complex.

You idiot.

>>2464118

wooka!

>>2464119

>>2464120

Do either of you have jobs? Jesus christ. I'm legitimately curious. I think you've been here posting the same interactions over and over for a decade.

>>2464123

How old are you? Do you live with your parents?

>>2464125

I'm sorry to hear that. I hope your life serves as an exemplary injunction.

>>2464125

So, your personality is obviously warped to the point where you see your inner self and inner avatar as this anime girl.

Are you able to fully separate yourself around other people from the freakshow that is your private mind?

>>2464127

shut the fuck up kid

>>2464128

It's not a real woman, kiddo. You're defending a mentally ill man. Who has a dick and balls.

You gonna come back and face me, kanra?

he will

maybe I am dull. because I know something is wrong with psychoanalysis. I'm just unable to put it into words.

I know it's not "true"... but what do I mean by true?

I know it's a dull tool for diagnosing things like brain trauma...

I know doctors have different diagnoses for the same patient sometimes, but I know it's WAY more varied when it comes to psychoanalysis.

The idea of the collective unconscious is unfalsifiable.

The idea of a cohesive 'ego' or self that navigates through life is oudated, and the idea we're actually a constellation of semi-indepnedant processes (hearing, listening, feeling, organ regulation, hormone regulation, seeing, balance) makes more sense than the view that we're an actor in the world.

>>2464135

Its blessed!

>>2464140

super bump

Kanra, I'm not going to get into neurochemistry with you.

You're the type of person who wins when they're in an argument; the content is irrelevant. The archetypes of the collective unconscious are one aspect, one piece of the puzzle of the mind of man. There is much more at play, including seratonin levels. And all manner of chemistry and neurology and physiology and psychology.

What are you even doing? Do you work? Can you drive a car yet?

>>2464137

The first thing I would ask Tim is whether or not he has a job. Then, ...

Do you have any freinds? A significant romantic relationship? Are you as educated as you are intelligent? Do you sleep properly? Do you eat properly? Are you restricted by some limitation that most people your age arent?

Maybe Tim is sad because he has a shitty life. That's a perfectly reasonable possibility.

I just realized that Kanra has basically become SteveAn 2.0

>>2464145

How are you any better?