/32/ - Psychopolitics

>>263

>it involves being even more racist than a hardened stormtard. I had found a few blogs about exterminating white people and how all white people are filth

This actually sounds a lot like communist propaganda, which denounced fascism and capitalism while at the same time pushed nationalism to an absurd degree and defended the party and its members who were a more rapacious kind of capitalists than the ones in wall street (something that became obvious when most of these 'aparachiks' became today's oligarchs)

In a way you could say they are just recycling old agitprop bullshit, which is no surprise since their concept of "patriarchy" comes from 60s-era sociological studies that have long since been disproved

>>148

>the desire for postmodern discourse to avoid personal attacks

Really? because where I'm watching it seems all discourse boils down to personal attacks

In fact it is so effective that these days all rebuttals boil down to "subject X did Y in the past" with X being the subject whose argument you have to disprove and Y being some random thing he might or might not done in the past which is not necessarily related to the argument at all but damages his personal image thus rendering the audience hostile to subject X and any argument he has or will make

>>161

>>166

The irony of zero-tolerance is that much like communism and other forced-equality measures it never works in reality

There were still poor people in the USSR, there were still thieves and there were (relatively) rich people that had more than the rest thanks to their contacts and networks that gave them an unfair advantage.

In fact at the end most communist countries are more unfair than capitalism ones since thanks to doublespeak the leadership gets to enjoy their riches without having to face some the the 'problematic' issues of capitalism like being wide open to competition and having to face the possibility of going bankrupt. In most communist countries merit its worthless and all that matters is who you know and who you marry to get to the top.

Most of the biggest blunders like the soviet and chinese famines would boil down to an incredibly inept leadership that got to where they were thanks to friends and family from the party. None went to trial or faced jailtime even though millions died because doing that would set a precedent that could destroy communist leadership.

In fact one of the things that destroyed the USSR was gorbachev's decision to make the union more open which in turn put most of the party on the spotlight and their members were suddenly for the first time in over 70 years having to actually face the people and being held accountable for their mistakes.

>>175

>By showing a product with something that the target consumer finds appealing yet is completely unrelated to the product itself the advertising company tricks your subconscious into associating the two.

Beer commercials are a great example: alcoholism is rarely something you would want to have, but beer companies managed to revert the historic (and partly true) image of alcohol being related to social decay. First they used homely images in the 50s and 60s, showing men having a drink while surrounded by their families, this mostly to counter the image being pushed by religious groups that alcohol destroyed families.

Then beer companies shifted to using images of having a great time, making beer and alcohol in general synonymous with partying, again to counter the widely held partly true image of the loner drunks in a dive bar drinking themselves to death.

>>268

>I think these people aren't per se bad people - at least most of them - but jsut incredibly misguided and weak-willed narrow minds.

You could say the same about the nazis really

And when you think about it, aren't they bad? most would destroy your career and public image with a second thought just for participating in this conversation

In situations like these collective guilt does apply since they are/were willful participants

>>285

Yes the jews, who else would create the one movement in the west apart from stormfags that is completely opposed to israel and zionism? Its clear the jews created this movement to achieve...........what? getting their economy bankrupt through boycotts like it happened to south africa?

>>299

>And you could see it more simply as divide and rule. Break apart the population to prevent cohesive sentiment against ruling interests, and to create a constant energy rift. And to drive those who will support the controlling state into the open, and those who won't into the open, so the pieces are there go be gamed.

This is by far the most likely scenario

Consider that economists themselves who are far from being a group known to care a lot about the welfare of people are warning about the rising inequality in the west and its long term effects which might become irreversible

Of course changing this would be a blow to the economic elite, so what they do? they change social issues from an economic perspective to a race/gender one

Its what happened with OWS, and the counter agents sent to push the sjw doctrine were incredibly effective at destroying the movement from the inside-out with their absurd propositions and divide&conquer tactics.

Some historical examples: Spanish colonies in America didn't rebel against the crown like the US did, they actually rebelled against the reformists in Spain that wanted to turn the empire into a democratic monarchy like England was.

Basically it was the colonial branch of the monarchy protecting their own interests, and ever since Latin America has been in almost constant strife, but who always get ahead? the elite. You will never see a member of the Mexican, Brazilian or Argentine elite out in the street, or jumping off a building like bankers did in 1929 NYC. The Latin American elites always fall gracefully on their feet, they manipulate the state to pay off the debts from their own blunders while keeping the middle class down and filibustering reforms

Every revolution ends up with a new small group of people (the leaders) joining the old latin elite, but there's never actual change for the people at large.

The elites actually benefit from this instability because unlike the middle (and let alone the lower) classes they do have the means to protect themselves and their interests. The only ones losing their shirts will be those below them.

>>113

this

>>125

lol

The illusion of rebellion with the full backing of the establishment.

Self righteous masturbation, making dad angry, and upsetting normal people while the authorities and bureaucrats kiss your ass trying not to offend you.

PC gives you immense power if you wield it consistently.

>>100

Hello OP.

>TL;DR ppl dont really care.

Generally, I take distance from these kind of debates & discussions but today will be a exemption just to vent my simple assertion.

I would like to say that I have nothing at all against the Social Justice Warriors but I've done some pondering due to them being an increasingly loud minority in recent years.

I believe "SJW-ism" derives majorly from what you put gracefully as :

>... tribal thinking

This is based upon my off-keyboard (although somewhat limited ) interaction with the so-called "SJWs".

Basically, It is my impression that the ones I've met and actually talked to does not have any actual problems. Of course, this is entirely subjective since everyone in fact have "problems" of their own & they are all equally important with one key difference and that being how large you PERCIEVE your own and others problems to be. One's owns problems are always the most important, that's just how we tick, plain & simple. You know it.

These are all people living incredibly comfortable lives, without any actual or "real" struggle or any imminent "real" threats to their direct existence and thus they create problems for themselves in order to justify their rather bland lives/ they assume other people's problems and make them their own.

Now that I think about it, I believe this is true for a vast majority of individuals involved in whatever activism there is whether it is the decreasing the amount of local homelessness or dedicating their lives to animal rights (but SJW-ism ESPECIALLY so). Confront an activist about their engagement in fighting, let's say homelessness and propose that since they have room in their house, take in one/two homeless persons and feed them. Wash them, give them somewhere to stay and assist them with creating a stable environment for themselves to the point where they are no longer in need of your support to live a "normal" life.

Or as another example : You meet a person that somewhere down your conversation say that they care deeply about pandas, that they are an "activist". Suggest that he/she joins an organization that co-ordinate other activists to an international network that struggles hard to prevent the extinction of pandas. Contact universities/government/institutions/companies & ask for whatever funds or help they can give. Propose collecting signatures and tell them, sell your possessions, leave your country and travel to Asia and do your utmost best to have an impact, to really make a difference for the poor pandas that you claim caring so much about.

But no. Just no.

In both examples the answer would be no. It's too much effort.

Handing out pins saying "Stop homelessness" won't feed anyone or give a poor homeless person roof over their head, no matter how much you pretend.

Walking around telling people that you are and panda-activist will, in fact not save one single panda despite your delusions unless you take serious action.

However, If it's too much effort, can you really claim that you actually CARE about whatever obscure "injustice" you've picked & and put so much effort into letting other people know just how much you care?

No again. People feel the need to assume a label to raise their own standing in someone else's mind

The next bit is based only off what I've read and seen online.

People are social creatures, we NEED to interact with other human beings and be part of "tribes" or else we will suffer mental damage. This being said, I think people see this movement of people picking up arms, fighting, kicking and screaming and marvel at what they see.

Collectively fight which ever "injustice" that is close at hand & they marvel at it. They take a step back and think, wow I want to be a part of that (related to what I mentioned earlier as the need to label yourself)

>>120

>All ideologies are metaphysically identical. The same things that make you pick one could just as easily make you pick another. Don't be so certain that there are substantial differences between us and them.

No, not all ideologues are identical.

Both SJW stem from Christianity. Both have the same nihilistic leveling. Both want to save humans from their sin and damnation.

The Christians see inequality and say the world is unjust and cruel. The SJW see same inequality and say the world is unjust and cruel.

The christians believe that this inequality is because of the original sin. The SJW believes in noble savage, a romanticized illustration of the same naked Adam and Eve, who lived in harmony with nature. The belief that life as better in primitive societies. That people lived peacefully and in harmony with nature.

This idea about the "noble savage" is at the heart of modern liberalism, environmentalism, and all ideas critical towards western civilization and whites, because they are seen as inventors of capitalism, industrialization, colonizations, globalization, and all the bad that has happen to the world and other races and civilizations.

Noble savage idea is also behind the belief that violence is learned. Just like the Christians believe that in garden of Eden all animals and humans lived together happily and in harmony. This is idea where pathological pacifism is stemmed. It's originally a judeo-christian belief, not a pagan one. Nietzsche had many excellent writings on this in his descriptions about master and slave morality. Nietzsche also accused atheist and liberals of his time of the same christian morality. Nietzsche actually did most of work in regards to metaphysical thinking and exposing the underlining hypocrisy of the liberal left, that like to boast about their atheism like not believing in stupid shit is an accomplishment worth being proud of.

The liberal beta-cuck identity and ideas come from this same Christian Slave morality. The European pagans, our ancestors were originally right. All the Hellenic philosophers, Roman thinkers, Philosophical ideas of the Vikings, and even the original Hindus or believers in Dharma (Not Buddhism) had a distinct difference between Judeo-Christian metaphysics.

The difference was in the moral value towards hierarchy. The Indo-Aryan Pagans believed that hierarchy was just. That hierarchy was a sign of personal and societal accomplishments to self-improve. The pagans didn't value equality, sameness, average, mediocrity like the Christians, Marxist, or liberals do. They didn't try to achieve equality, but to overcome equality in all aspects of life. That's why their architecture is still standing, and beautiful. Their thinkers still hit home 2000 years later. Their tales of heroic battles and science is being admired. All this because they wanted to improve themselves as individuals and as a societies.

Our biggest cultural struggle is to destroy the morality of equality, the slave morality. If we cannot do this, then we the white people are doomed.

The SJW are not stupid, when they are demanding equality for "transpeople" and other freaks. If you believe and accept equality as a moral standard, then it's perfectly logical for tradespeople to be able to adopt children. It's actually illogical for a christian or any conservative that accepts "equality" as their moral code to not use that standard in all other standards as well. Because people believe in equality, the illogical and stupid are those who try to hold onto some hierarchy, but still think believing they are believing in equality. Orwell called this double think. Believing two mutually contradicting things simultaneously, and not see any contradictions between them.

We need to attack the idea of equality. Nietzsche called it nihilistic, and he was spot on. The nihilistic idea of equality, is anti-nature. It's the denial of nature. Nature is hierarchy. Nature is will to power. Nature is constant evolutionary struggle. The all values leveling "equality" fights against the idea or struggle and hierarchy. It is nihilistically anti-nature.

So, to say all ideals are metaphysically the same is not true. You can divide them into ideas that believe in struggle and hierarchy, and those that believe in equality.

>>100

I suspect it to be a duty based dichotomy for the most part Cultural Marxists lack any real kind of sense of loyalty, duty or integrity to anyone but themselves making them easily manipulable where as garden variety conservatives have those things for some greater ideal which also leaves them vulnerable to manipulation

>>501

>Nazi

I don't know where the Blimp you are getting any of this, but it appears you've just browsed /pol/ for about a week.

>you were born in MY country so you Blimp ME

>i demand 10/10 aryan waifu

>degenerate! why aren't you breeding more whites?

As if that's wrong in any way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMfk5UeGw4E

>Want free labor from other races

Of course, that's why they are tribalists and isolationists that want monoracial countries, to work the browm man to death.

You are thinking about jews m8.

>Are traditionalist because it suits them

>No one seriously belives in traditionalism guise it's 2015 wow just wow, da nazis just want to blow your mind with propaganda they don't even support.

Besides, are you implying that people don't do everything just because it suits them?

In a profundly distorted world, those who feel disatisfied will naturally look for solutions, and those who don't will join the status quo, all because it suits them.

>Create nothing on their own because they feel entitled to all that others achieve

This is just wrong.

Leaving aside the achievements of nazi germany both from outstanding individuals and their collective conciousness, if people stopped creating shit no matter what political ideology they subscribe to, there would be nothing to be entitled about.

Besides, you fail to realize that 90% of the people are work drones without the capacity of achieving something individually; no matter the place or epoch, just a handful of people were on the edge of artistic and scientific progress, whilst everyone else dedicated their lives to keep everything running.

Unless we reach the point where everyone is highly intelligent and with the same cognitive capacities there is no point in favoring this mindset that everyone should do whatever they want, since they won't "follow their own path to achieve something", they will just fuck around, do nothing and die.

And even then, not having a strict sense of responsability and presservation towards the world you live in is what destroys civilizations.

>>100

Two words anon

PEER PRESSURE

These days its nigh impossible to fit in within western society while being openly anti-socjus

Being gay in the victorian age was easier, just look at oscar wilde

Is you're against socjus culture these days you could very well loose your job. Most employers wont dare risk a shitstorm with the socjus gestapo that are groups like BLM so they rather fire your ass even if you were the perfect employee.

Being anti-socjus will cost you friends and even your family might feel you're being "problematic".

This cultural socjus shit its OLD, most of their books and theories are from over half a century ago and even been disproved since then. Whats actually new is the mob culture associated with it that forces people to comply to this and makes any discussion or criticism verboten

>>103

>If someone is a devout Christian, then Liberal propaganda will not have as strong an effect on him

Fuck this, the most hardcore SJWs I had encountered IRL were all former jesus camp-types who merely changed one belief for another.

Its like born-again christians but on reverse: they moved from religious dogma to socjus dogma and they fit quite well because they are used to listening to stuff without doubting it.

>>120

This is another thing: I feel a lot of SJW-types have a desperate need to finally fit-in somewhere, and they choose this movement thinking they do what they preach without realizing that socjus itself has its own cliques.

Anyway, what made YOU shift anon? how you ended here?

>>1638

I believe in equality in the law, which of course socjus disagree with since they believe certain people should get special treatment

I wouldn't rely so much in paganism considering some pagans were borderline communist in their beliefs and at the same time christianity has for most of its history been an anti-democratic pro-monarchy pro-racist and pro-capitalist system of beliefs.

Take for example slavery: before it went out of fashion in europe pretty much every christian would say slavery was good because some people are markedly inferior and that the european man was actually helping since every new slave was saved from eternal damnation when they were baptized

It wasn't until politics changed that the church stopped endorsing slavery, same with judaism despite their long history of being a source of slaves for millennia

>>2500

this is surely an automatic (bot) post: horrible webcomic, projection based on very little and without reference, inflammatory without having a point.

Anyway I think If you concede that most of this generation was injected as a baby with three live viruses; causing in them various problems and anxieties they wouldn't have had otherwise, that the greens they eat are sprayed with toxic chemicals and the cattle and poultry fed with GM soya and injected with hormones, also the personality conditioning they adapt to through school and in the social world which is almost dictated by media standards, it's no wonder that people feel threatened and end up taking refuge in a kind of dogmatism.

It's silent weapons for silent wars, and the ones using the weapon are selling the guns.

>>2503

Now the part about

>Russia and Turkey trading in gold to bypass the US

That doesn't seem to be playing out now too well does it?

However the point on Russia or the US using a nuke to start/end a very quick and WWIII is definitely still on the table and increasing everyday.And the whole Denver airport thing...

>incorrectly directed at the mechanizations rather than the mechanizers

I see this turning around in the form of Trump no? He most certainly isn't in the elite 'club' and is clearly despised by them. I see this as being the literal 'trump' card and fallacy in their plan. Actually the only way to end the wave dissent towards the establishment at this point would be to take out trump which they probably will try, and fail at, thus securing his presidency.

>Five guys burger and fries launched...

Umm you lost me with that one?

>>2504

>Is you're against socjus culture these days you could very well loose your job.

Negative. You actually might be a plant/shill for saying this. This statement is categorically false and shows that the writer doesn't get out much. To wit, I've had exposure to major work centers that you would consider

sensitive' in a bastion of the leftist heartland, and I can tell you with certainty that there are men still willing to call a horse a horse, because they know what's at stake and have nothing to lose.

For instance with this latest muslim infused massacre. The general discussion at said environment has been very one sided against the muzzies (and commies) to the shock of one particular sjw (single mom, puerto rican coal burner). Goes to show there is still hope.

Can anyone here try to psychoanalyze the SJWs in this vid?

>>2521

Your use of weak memes like "coal burner" already tells me that the one with no contact with reality is you since if you were to mention that outside of places like pol and IRL you would most likely be asked to leave, at best.

Getting fired over non-PC talk is not an absolute and most often than not it depends on the mental instability of the "person" (if you can call the average SJW that) making the accusation against you and if they have the connections to trigger a social stampede against you in the web (dox, campaigns, emails to your employer) but this is becoming ridiculously easy as SJW don't even bother to double check if they are being used as somebody's personal army and seeing how most of them are psychopaths its probable they don't care.

But the reality is that there are few, VERY FEW employers out there who would gladly risk a massive PR disaster over an employee, you had companies like github firing a founder, FOUNDER no employee, over such a scandal.

But if you want to keep using dumb racial memes that are no different from the shit tumblr feminazis make then you better go back to pol and stay there.

>>439

>It's also interesting that prominent transsexuals tend to be involved with science and are involved with gnosticism and transhumanism

I know an MtF who is, exactly as you said, an autismal-leaning scifi enthusiast, and who's obsessed with transhumanism. From my discussions with him, it seems he believes that transhumanism is the only future which he thinks is positive, and if he were to be convinced of its flaws he might just commit suicide.

First of all bump to a great thread. Quality has been going down all over the chans these days.

After the latest /pol fiasco, I had a thought and remembered this >>299 post, in this very same thread.

Do you remember pic related at the very beginning of gg. This was posted by the mod team that was later confirmed to be SJWs.

Is this a way (((they))) are using to control acts that would otherwise become a problem to the PTB?

Is it possible that this very same method, that we see being played out on fullpol constantly is at the same time being played out at srs tier sites? In the same time dividing us and them while fueling discord even within the groups themselves.

>>2540

I find the guy narrating the post to be even cringier than the tumblristas themselves.

>>334

>>341

I noticed this in theatre, whether middle/high/secondary school theatre, college theatre, or theatre in the adult world. People are feeling like they are free when they take upon themselves camp behavior, whether as out-and-loud homosexuality or at the minimum adopting some of the camp into their otherwise ordinary heterosexuality to gain a sense of belonging and freedom.

It's the ruling class implementing doctrines via media that polices the average citizen's conduct. Political correctness, sensitivity training, these are methodologies intended to domesticate the population.

It's certainly related to all your proposals, but it is *very* sexual, as perhaps everything ultimately is... So, SJW dogma is rooted in feminism, females control the means of reproduction, and men's instinct to reproduce is often stronger than logical fixations. Like puppies, they'll nod in the affirmative to whatever slogans their women regurgitate if it means they'll have access to sex.

SJW preach hedonism, materialism, void of spirituality as their enemy "patriarchy" is merely a code-word for tradition. The scapegoating of "privilege", from their lexicon, is the ultimate admission of being materialistic, as no longer are people viewed as a genetic continuum but as a tabula rasa product who are randomly born into a random privileged, or "under-privileged" household. Some good NLP there, come to think of it: Have's, Have-Not's.