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f81abe No.1362 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Are you happy /philosophers/?
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57f314 No.5361

>>1362

>happiness

Poor translation. Eudaimonia? Ataraxia?

I'm within epsilon of being as content as possible, given the hand I was dealt. Non-impossible problems melt before me. My emotions are largely as I would like them to be. Total mastery of both inner and outer world, insofar as such mastery is possible.

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537a03 No.6633

>>5361

I don't think this is a real quote. No name cited, I couldn't find it except for that picture. Hence happiness instead of proper greek wording.

>>2064

>>2068

>Happiness is nothing quantifiable objectively.

That is some retarded statement. Two second of google research let's me tell you that :

" In the 21st century, the field of neuroscience proposes that happiness -- like every other emotional experience -- is the result of electrochemical reactions in the brain brought on by stimuli."¹.

Also on a more dialectic basis I'd say that happiness is the negation of passions. Still quantifiable, the more you alleviate passions the happier you get. How can a bunch of romans and greek understood that 2000 years ago and you don't...

¹https://science.howstuffworks.com/life/neurochemistry-of-happiness.htm

>>1457

>happiness is achieved by virtue

>citation needed

Are you seriously implying that accomplishing yourself through hard work and being proficient doesn't make people happy. The citation is going to be all of human history...

>the purpose of life is happiness

>citations needed

This one is more debatable. But the question at this point is: "is there a goal to life"? And if not can't you define your own goals? And if so what else could it be and how is it more plausible than "happiness" (ataraxia would be a better term)?

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662f60 No.6647

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>>1362

happiness is irrelative. only the truth will bring peace to one's self.

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cbc121 No.6654

>>1364

Based and redpilled

>>1372

>>1438

>>1439

Cringe and bluepilled

Face the reality, cucks...

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29535d No.6664

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>>1362

Yes.

Perhaps surprisingly so.

Why is there no flag for Epicureanism?

>>1449

I think compatibilism is most likely. But it's so unknowable. Ignorance is bliss.

>>1457

>the purpose of life is happiness

It is the best way to live

>>2081

The key is seeing it in your head the whole time and chipping away the parts that are in the way of others seeing it.

>>2141

I will be happy to lend a hand to those ends and die trying.

>>6647

It seems truth is happiness.

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5942c1 No.6607 [Open thread]

Anything good or bad that happens to someone that they, within reason, could not predict or control is a form of luck.

> Getting hit by a drunk driver

> Winning the lottery

> Born with a permanent disability

> Struck by lightning

There's no sound reason for anyone to say that luck isn't real. They either don't understand the meaning of the word or have a very distorted view of reality, like the ones who claim every experience you have is just a manifestation of your own thoughts. This is patently false, as you could wake up tomorrow with a spider on your head without a single thought to spur it. There may be a reason, a cause, for everything, but that doesn't mean every event can be controlled or accounted for by a person at all times. When these unpredictable, uncontrollable events affect someone positively or negatively, it's called luck.

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5942c1 No.6640

>>6622

I see your point, that "lucky" events don't necessarily have some predestined, god-ordained significance to them. I also didn't mean to imply that luck is some sort of law, just a label for a certain type of event.

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2af1a6 No.6657

>>6640

It's just a way to measure undesirable low frequency events, it's like temerature or distance or time.

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7f1114 No.6658

>>6657

nobody could have said it better. but its a measure of all ranges, desired or undesired, luck itself. lol. its a cipher, a representative word.

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382361 No.6659

>>6657

Well no because temperature and time can be measured through empirical means but luck cannot.

Things that can be measured : Weight, height, speed, gravity and so on. Tangible forces that exist despite us.

Things that can't be measured : Luck, love, hate, peace and so on. Nebulous concepts created by humans to explain feelings, needs, wants and unexplainable phenomena within our world.

If a bird shits on your shoulder right after you've found a lone 5 dollar bill on the street there's no real correlation between the two happenings. One thing didn't happen just because of this other thing.

They just happened and we ascribe this as having more meaning to it than it actually does.

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2af1a6 No.6662

>>6659

If you consider that a bird shitting on your shoulder is unlucky and you recorded every instance of a person getting shit on vs not shit on, you would be measuring the frequency of luck. Maybe not the magnitude or strength of luck though.

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66fdff No.6328 [Open thread]

Please no philosophers that weren't insightful enough not to be atheist

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965884 No.6407

>>6328

Buddha

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781844 No.6412

Aristotle, as far as I know. If you want something short, there's the spurious "On Virtues and Vices". If you want something meatier, there's always the Nicomachian Ethics, Magna Moralia, and Eudemian Ethics.

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efbcdd No.6461

>>6412

Doesn't Aristotle recommend moderation though?

He would say refusing to drink could be conceived as rude or anti-social, but being drunk isn't socially beneficial and drinking any amount regularly is unhealthy.

He would advocate a glass of wine at a dinner or party once a month.

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8c1e75 No.6649

Seneca

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daf157 No.6651

>please no philosophers that aren't fedora tipping faggots.

OP sucks rationalist cock. Again, Sage.

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81ddc0 No.5682 [Open thread]

The alt-right and /pol/ both have members who believe that god and the afterlife do not exist, but who also believe that public belief in such things is the only way for society to avoid falling into moral relativism and degeneracy.

Maybe there is a way to provide objective morality and purpose, I believe that the forbidden science promoted by the alt-right holds the key to this.

Ayn Rand was right about the law between the individuals within a tribe, but she refused to accept tribal differences, or even that there were tribes to begin with.

If we can combine Ethno-nationalism and the most useful bits of Objectivism, and use the empirical evidence supporting the existence of tribal differences, the need for tribal separation, etc. I feel like we would be on track to a new morality.

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472559 No.6630

>>6629

I also want to add that I enjoy our conversation and that I find it interesting to share my opinions with someone who disagrees with me.

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c6e369 No.6637

>>6615

'Races' are collections of similar traits that are distinct enough to be considered groups but not to be considered subspecies. Non-caucasian races are less intelligent on average than caucasian races.

The world could 'go on' after a multitude of events that you would be opposed to. What justification do you have for your continuation of life, if you are unlikely to affect the 'going on' of the world? You have given this argument without any alternative.

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4e45ff No.6644

>>6637

And where exactly do you draw the distinction for what constitutes one race contra another race? You are, by the by, using an erroneous distinction by using caucasian to mean "white" as caucasian can apply to a wide variety of people from all over Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.

The term caucasian has been twisted and appropriated to simply mean "white" which is a gross oversimplification. Similarly to word "aryan" which does not mean white but are encompassing of genetic traits which can be found in people all over the world not just blue eyed, blonde and white people.

So when you say to one "race", using your definition of race that is, means nothing.

Your whole outlook on race is primarily based on pseudoscience, linguistic shortcuts and general ignorance.

>You have given this argument without any alternative.

That's because it isn't an argument with alternatives in the first place. If you live you live, if you die you die. Any meaning found therein is completely of your own volition. If thinking about your own racial superiority over other races gives you some semblance of purpose then, fine, who gives a shit that's what gets YOU going.

I personally think you could, if you wanted to, strain yourself to find something more meaningful and productive to believe in but that's a journey you have to make on your own.

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ac3b5f No.6645

>>6644

>And where exactly do you draw the distinction for what constitutes one race contra another race? You are, by the by, using an erroneous distinction by using caucasian to mean "white" as caucasian can apply to a wide variety of people from all over Europe, Western Asia, Central Asia, South Asia, North Africa, and the Horn of Africa.

>The term caucasian has been twisted and appropriated to simply mean "white" which is a gross oversimplification. Similarly to word "aryan" which does not mean white but are encompassing of genetic traits which can be found in people all over the world not just blue eyed, blonde and white people.

If you do not have the capacity to understand what is meant, when the meaning of the term used can not be exactly defined using other words, then this is your cognitive lack. The terms caucasian and aryan have indeed been used in multiple ways, this does not mean that they are somehow beholden to what you conceive to be one of those ways.

>So when you say to one "race", using your definition of race that is, means nothing.

How does the relationship between signifier and signified being arbitrary mean that the signifier does not signify?

>That's because it isn't an argument with alternatives in the first place. If you live you live, if you die you die. Any meaning found therein is completely of your own volition. If thinking about your own racial superiority over other races gives you some semblance of purpose then, fine, who gives a shit that's what gets YOU going.

>I personally think you could, if you wanted to, strain yourself to find something more meaningful and productive to believe in but that's a journey you have to make on your own.

but people die dude, so whatever dude, it's like create your own meaning and shit, i swear dude, just take the journey through reddit and the self-help book section at the thrift store..

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4e45ff No.6646

>>6645

>If you do not have the capacity to understand what is meant, when the meaning of the term used can not be exactly defined using other words, then this is your cognitive lack. The terms caucasian and aryan have indeed been used in multiple ways, this does not mean that they are somehow beholden to what you conceive to be one of those ways.

La di da.

The reason I bring it up is because the definition keeps, conveniently, changing with the times and the context.

But the bottom line being that there's still this lingering persistence to make the "white" race more important and "better" than other races even when there's no justification or scientific confirmation for it being provably true.

I can easily point this out but people put so much of their own personal self worth and identity in this vague concept of race that whenever I say "your race doesn't make you special", which it doesn't, people see it as an attack on their very personhood.

And I suppose it is if the only thing you have going for yourself is the complexion of your outermost layer of skin.

But the fact that you can't make something of yourself that's YOUR problem that you have to work on.

>How does the relationship between signifier and signified being arbitrary mean that the signifier does not signify?

That was actually a typo on my behalf, whoops, what I meant to say was that saying that one race, the whites, have a "higher I.Q. than other races" means nothing. Which it does because even the definition of I.Q. is another definition which has been horribly confused from it's original meaning.

>just take the journey through reddit and the self-help book section at the thrift store...

And this is somehow worse than the "I'm the chosen white" bullshit that you keep telling yourselfPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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d64859 No.6558 [Open thread]

Are there any infographics that weren't written by an apparent 8-year-old? You can't "realize" there is no meaning, as if the meaning of the realization exists in some magic bubble of non-meaning. Anyone have any guides that don't confuse despair and intelligence, and then proceed to try to explain just why that despair isn't despair? Something simple, like "You think this shit is interesting? Then you should read this. You think this shit is banal? Then you should read this."

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b0157f No.6563

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Why not try to upgrade the chart, fixing mistakes and giving better questions? Or remake it completely, adding different ideologies, and expanding on the answers? It would be nice to see a longer pdf version of this.

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b0157f No.6643

Do you crave meaning?

Yes: What causes you to crave meaning? Is it to indulge yourself, or to improve yourself and those around you?

Are you willing to believe in God?

> Are you willing to follow catholic doctrine? Orthodox? Protestant? Baptist? Other?

>Religion is the opiate of the people should also be expanded. Saying Fascism, Communism, and Anarchism as a final result after 3 questions is too much. The bottom row could be expanded on too. Maybe more than just books, include quotes by famous people, and show examples from history where it worked.. and well.

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98731b No.6439 [Open thread]

Does it make sense to try to self-actualize others?

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2b0837 No.6639

Why do you want to "self-actualized others"?

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8cae30 No.6641

>Does it make sense?

no, how does a being other than self actualize a self.

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f8e861 No.6642

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>>6639

>>6641

Resistance is futile. You will be substantiated.

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934248 No.6302 [Open thread]

Humanity = God ?

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934248 No.6334

>>6324>>6326

god would be the sum of all humans not one individual human

but one could argue that an individual human might be god to/of the cells of his particular body using my same logic

its basically like the difference between egoism and altruism: scale

>>6322

that said im pretty sure ur scale of god might be broader and thats fine god is infinite scale does not confine him, yet humans are bound to the finite so before we ascend we need to unite on our current scale.

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8ebefe No.6367

Man created God in his own image.

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5ebae7 No.6381

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Muh New Ager interpretation of metaphysics. Everything is a though form, even though a god form wouldn't give you choice.

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5845a4 No.6516

No.

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dacedd No.6632

>>6302

Define God.

Define Humanity,

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2946b3 No.6575 [Open thread]

You are allowed to redefine the terms "real" and "reality". Let's redefine "Real" to mean "something that never changes". Does this physical life/world change? Yes, of course. And therefore it is not real. The only thing that is real is Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy -- Perfect Spirits, Perfect Eternal Conscious Entities. They never change and thus crave the illusions of a temporary, ever changing physical existence such as this very dreamworld we are presently experiencing. Nothing real is being harmed or changed by the horrors and pain of this little dream.

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4af9e4 No.6624

I refuse to be dissuaded from reality by your fantastical machinations. Just because something changes doesn't mean it's not real. One moment, I'm feeling like a bird in the sky, and in the next I can be in the gutters of misery and despair. Do you deny the existence of these feelings? Are they not real?

I also find it odd, the idea that a perfect eternal entity would create a dreamworld to escape its boring existence. It can't be perfect if it's bored, I say.

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3ebd6c No.6628

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>Let's redefine "Real" to mean "something that never changes".

ok

>Nothing real is being harmed or changed by the horrors and pain of this little dream.

then becomes

<Nothing that never changes is being harmed or changed by the horrors and pain of this little dream.

nothing that never changes, ever chances...

mind=blown

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8fec26 No.6570 [Open thread]

I've been living successfully (patents, wealth) and happily (family, friends) with Objectivism for a decade and am fairly well involved in Oist circles.

I've been studying the theoretical side of it and think it might be insightful for everyone involved to have a discussion.

I'm aware that Oism is generally looked down upon by the majority of professional philosophers, which I find unfortunate.

Please throw anything you wish at me and I'll try to answer to the best of my knowledge.

Let me address some common misconceptions at the outset (mostly about Rand herself, but please don't make this thread about those points):

1. Rand's primary goal in life was to bring back the benevolent society of the 19th century that she caught a glance of in her youth - via literature. To achieve this, she wanted to "describe the ideal man". She did not want to be a philosopher and would rather have not led an ideology - but did so anyway after Nathaniel Branden convinced her that it would help her cause.

2. She did not die in poverty. Her estate was above a million dollars at her passing (which Leonard Peikoff inherited).

3. She did accept social security at some point - which is consistent since "only the opposers of redistribution may morally reclaim their redistributed/stolen wealth by making use of the redistribution" (it would be a sacrifice not to get your own money back)

4. She did have a relationship outside of her marriage - with which her husband agreed. She loved her husband since he had the ideal sense of life - and Branden because he could spar with her intellectually. It later turned out Branden betrayed her and it fell apart.

5. No, Objectivism is not about "screw everyone else". To the contrary. One ought to cultivate and support one's trade partners (to which friends and family count). The ideal is voluntarily chosen 'win-win' trades amongst everyone.

6. That 'rape scene' in the Fountainhead wasn't rape. Dominique is a complex character who wishes to destroy the good because the world isn't worthy of it. She tried and failed to deny herself the good and Post too long. Click here to view the full text.

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19e9e9 No.6593

1. Objectivism is regurgitated communism for people who don't like communism.

2. You began your post addressing arguments against Objectivism without explaining what it was.

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8fec26 No.6594

>>6593

>2

I was assuming people had a relatively solid grasp on what it was they were rejecting outright

>1

what

>what is Objectivism

It's a philosophy.

Metaphysics:

Existence is as it is.

Contradictions can't exist

Epistemology:

Man is fallible, conceptual, volitional.

Taking fallibility into account, one can still be certain. Certainty simply describes the best possible state of knowledge - and one can achieve it via logical differentiation and integration.

Ethics:

Achieving one's own rational self-interest/happiness is one's moral purpose.

Ethics (social context):

You should view others as prospective traders.

You should be honest and supportive towards your good traders (in your own interest).

Politics:

The purpose of government is the protection of individual rights and the settling of disputes.

In other words:

Government guarantees that humans may live the human life (i.e. in accordance with their nature)

Aesthetics:

Art ought to idealize reality realistically.

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fcff81 No.6595

>>6594

The market is an ideal circumstance in which we are all both trader and ware. It's crystallized liberalism. It's also a lot like marxism, basing the entirety of the world upon abstracted if A then B, if B then A formulas that form a circular closed loop. The great contradiction being that this leaves us with no freedom whatsoever, as we are bound to equalizing ourselves with the conclusions of said formulas; the Rand cult was, certainly in practice, a typical one in this.

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8fec26 No.6596

>>6595

>we are 'ware' on the markets

I mean, in terms of jobs (trade relationships), but it's not like we're slaves

>everything is like 'if A then B' and vice versa

Oist epistemology doesn't purely make use of deduction. Oism, like Aristotle, embraces induction. The Oist understanding of induction is this:

Whenever you get one new fact from your senses or your experience - you integrate it with the whole of your knowledge. Your brain does the rest and effectively that new fact ends up conflicting/integrating with all knowledge that doesn't line up with that particular fact.

You are basically re-evaluating how everything is all the time. There is no 'set in stone' how everything is. There is only your current integration of all the facts you ever experienced.

You are the final judge of the truth.

(We do however say that, even though this is so, facts and concepts are objective - because the material by the senses is objective and objective facts form concepts)

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51576a No.6618

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Oism is a pratt.

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f8bc5c No.3157 [Open thread]

Thoughts on the political philosophy of Libertarianism?

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a1dc1f No.6264

Respects natural rights and freedom, which is important for individual growth and free societies.. Can be a bit too "individualistic" though, people without healthy community/familial ties tend not to thrive.

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8a9aa0 No.6421

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>>5932

>"As an anarcho capitalist"

Oh my God

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1bf61d No.6597

Libertarianism is my ideal system, but I've come to the conclusion that massive work is necessary to undo the dramatic changes inflicted upon society by the state before we can construct a viable alternative. Additionally, a libertarian society would not survive if it was full of the hyperindividualists that make up much of the movement at present. I think some degree of "collectivism" is necessary to maintain a functional civilization, although I could do without compulsion.

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a92953 No.6614

the big gay and jewish af

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f44488 No.6634

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e08775 No.5002 [Open thread]

Why do you dislike the enlightenment?

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5444d9 No.6545

>>5015

/pol/->

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d2d13c No.6546

>>5002

Full of spooks

>>6542

>nobility and chivalry

S P O O K S

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also gb2 >>>/pol/

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926146 No.6602

It bred capitalism

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2af484 No.6606

>>6546

>>6602

02 you haven't read Marx, 46 go commit >>>/suicide/

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926146 No.6611

>>6606

Marx is gay, Bakunin and Proudhon are better. How about no, and I kill you instead?

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bf2998 No.6604 [Open thread]

That's not driven by a personal profit motive?

Give me some examples of such philosophy.

>inb4 Ayn Rand

No that's not what I'm looking for. Neither Max Stirner.

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e8b94f No.6605

>No Stirner or Rand

Nigger what do you want then?

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bf2998 No.6610

>>6605

Faggot, non-objectivist, non-altruistic self-interest. Is Epicurus close? Sextus Empircus? And I'm not your Nigger.

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e79aea No.1011 [Open thread][Last50 Posts]

Do we truly have free will or are we just the current manifestations of a deterministic series of events that started with the big bang?
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f6e834 No.6432

Well, you are a human born in 21st century combine that with cultural, environmental, geographical, religious, sexual, racial and many other factors beyond your control it stands to reason that whatever free will you may have it is heavily contested and compromised by the circumstances that have been forced upon you.

So even if you were able to break away from your current situation would you still be free or just the product of the times, culture and circumstances you came from?

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8d4333 No.6459

There is no such thing as free will in this reality. It is as though we live in a binary equation. 1's and zero's . We have up or down. right or left. dark to light. you can go on forever in pairs. a part and its counter part. Therefore how can one truly have free-will, if one always has to make a choice given to him based on the parameters of a dimensional hierarchy that most are unable to even comprehend; much less manipulate. It is a researched fact that the sub-conscious makes decisions before we are consciously aware of the decision. Therefore life in a sense is drawn out for us based on our inner most desires and wants. You really do get what you want, but most people have not the slightest clue as to what they really want. They are lost in a consumerist society where they lust after a item they know nothing about. Money would not exist if there was no debt and the U.S Dollar is the number one exported good in america and is responsible for the past 30 years of war because of this little known fact. To say we have free will is almost laughable. We don't know what free will would even begin to feel like. Most would reject it because most like having their hands held. Free Will died with our dreams a long time ago

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eace92 No.6582

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>>6426

Free means "without limitations". Free means free means free. Cannot have partial freedom, nor can you have partial determinism. One or the other, full tilt. No limitations whatsoever. As it happens, this mortal world is totally determined. We have zero freewill within this physical universe. Before the Big Bang, we had 100% Freewill Freeplay and we used it to design & determine our destinies in this physical universe. All living creatures are actually Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy.

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8daa9d No.6589

>>6582

You really need to go back to reddit

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b2d9d9 No.6608

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d9cb1a No.6529 [Open thread]

Is monogamy natural?

I personally believe that the human body is programmed to be both monogamous and polygamous at the same time. The more sex you have with random women the more your body programs itself to become polygamous. And I think this might be why virgin-until-marriange couples have the lowest divorce rates.

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7b3249 No.6548

>>6529

No, monogamy is a man made social construct backed by loegal proceedings. Where are the marital contracts for wolves? what court upholds wolf marriage? where are the churches for wolves to marry in?

It's possible in some countries to get married to an animal, btw.

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ef353b No.6553

>>6548

I didn't say marriage explicitly but something similar to it might be, and if it's man-made is it necessary bad? I mean other man-made things are laws, education, nations, not dying at age 30, etc.

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1586c7 No.6557

>>6548

Technically some animals have only one partner but only because of specific environments I don't think apply to humans.

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d34f29 No.6580

Polyamory is just an excuse for women to whore around, nothing more nothing less

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d34f29 No.6603

>>6531

And for good reason.

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15c15f No.6409 [Open thread]

Almost of every school of philosophy from West to East believes in some form of reincarnation. Whether or not we come back as the same person or not is semantics. This isn't even mentioning the idea that our universe is just one of many.

My question then is how does reincarnation effect the meaning of life? How can there be any meaning if we have unlimited time at bat?

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4ca573 No.6410

Affect.

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76b684 No.6413

Someone explain to me the fucking point of reincarnation if I don't remember it.

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15c15f No.6420

>>6410

Shit I thought I caught all my errors. Then again my post could've been done a little better.

>>6413

It depends if you look at it through a religious or secular lens. In Buddhism/Hinduism you keep on dying and coming back, until you reach enlightenment and end the cycle by going to Nirvana. As for the secular view, I believe it's due to laws of thermodynamics, mainly the first and second laws.

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702f29 No.6586

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>>6409

"How can there be any meaning if we have unlimited time at bat?"

Define: Meaning. Do you mean "purpose"?

We do have unlimited times at bat. All living creatures are the products of their perfect spiritual selves. Those selves are Perfect Eternal Conscious Energy, each perfectly equal and equally perfect to each other. They have always been alive. They were never created. They are conscious entities: Eternal thinker-feelers. What are they to do with their consciousness throughout forever & ever? They have the ability to conceive & script dreamselves and dreamlives in dreamworlds and then manifest them, materialize them, and live them out in the flesh as if this was the only conscious life they have ever known, or will know. But death returns them to their original spiritual sobriety & sanity, their never changing Homestate of Awareness. And there they rest until bored enough to create a new dream to experience.

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