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File: f163be90ed896fb⋯.jpg (52.57 KB,528x382,264:191,QTCgcb6FHis.jpg)

 No.65418 [Open Thread]

In Mesopotamia (Sumer, Akkad, Babylonia, Assyria), relations between people and gods were based on the principle of "do ut des" — "I give so you give." Prayer (request) without sacrifice (gift) was considered much less effective, and often completely useless.

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 No.65434

One more reason to believe they were praying to dead people and not ancient spirits with power and knowledge and the ability to create stuff.

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 No.65452

>>65434

If you only take and give nothing in return, it's unethical, it's self-interest, greed, and it's a sin and vice.

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File: 5f681174d2a6236⋯.png (1.42 MB,1379x1080,1379:1080,prophecy.png)

 No.65116 [Open Thread]

The strike on Iran's nuclear program was foretold, what comes next: Turkey will fall and eventually Constantinople will be liberated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5A2NMCQYHg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=644tjm3LXWU

https://orthochristian.com/133779.html

>“Know, that Turkey will also fall apart. There will be a war that will last two periods. We will be the victors, because we are Orthodox.

>“Geronda, will we suffer losses in the war?”

>“Eh, at the most they’ll occupy one or two islands, but they will give Constantinople to us. You’ll see, you’ll see!”

>“The Turks will leave, but they will return again and reach Hexamilia.[9] One third of them will perish, one third will come to believe in Christ, and another third will go to Kokkini Milia.”

Prev thread: https://archive.4plebs.org/x/thread/40535205

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 No.65414

>>65116

It is curious why the Pakistani nuclear bomb does not cause outrage in the European Union and the United States of America, but the Iranian nuclear bomb does? They are equally wild Muslims.

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 No.65440

Fck off

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 No.65436 [Open Thread]

Who are the popular pagan gods of the English people?

Are there any traditional English pagan gods who are regularly fed by English people, to whom we turn with prayers and ceremonies?

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 No.65437

Scandinavians brought their deities with the conquest.

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File: 0f961e1e5334be8⋯.png (2.87 MB,5730x2000,573:200,Q_Freemasonry_Knights_Temp….png)

 No.64047 [Open Thread]

Donald Trump was the 45th U.S. president and is the 47th U.S. president:

4 + 5 = 9

4 + 7 = 11

911

The U.S. Congress in office between 2025 and 2027 is the 119th Congress:

119 = 911 reversed

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Freemasonry is the occult reason for the Ukraine / Russia war:

1. The word "Ukraine" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('K-U-E').

1a. "Q" is the 17th letter of the alphabet.

1b. Freemasonry was founded in the year 1717.

2. The word "Russia" contains the word "RUSH" phonetically ('RUSS').

2a. The word "RUSH" is a synonym for the word "STORM".

2b. The word "STORM" is an anagram of the words "MASTER MASON", the name of Freemasonry's third degree.

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 No.64212

File: 1b849cc95a5472e⋯.jpeg (89.01 KB,484x717,484:717,IMG_2624.jpeg)

Another thread made possible by the Leo Taxil!

Stay Pwny my frens!

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 No.64225

Muh leo. Fuck you fucking I’m not evening giving you a you. Obvious as fuck that his maligning by the modern internet would make his story all the more believable. You’re telling me a guy who said the church is bad and manipulating you is wrong. God damn you mason boomer retards are so fucked in the head. I bet zog chipped you and now you run around like a little dog doing their bidding good goy.

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 No.64259

>>64047

Not to get political or anything

But WTF is a gheist?

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 No.64296

>>64259

gheist means ghost , I think

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 No.65426

>>64047

3I/ATLAS.

3I

I = 9th letter of the alphabet

3x9

= 999

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File: fe3841247b98266⋯.jpg (52.66 KB,736x637,736:637,Jesus.jpg)

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 No.65416 [Open Thread]

How do you feel about the combination of a mustache and beard, like Jesus Christ with elf ears? Doesn't it look too anotherplanetarly? Would such a person cause intraspecific discrimination among people?

In many early icons, Jesus Christ is blond with a wheat-colored mustache and beard. There were and are blonds in the family of King David.

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File: aa344bb5365d8bc⋯.jpg (171.49 KB,1000x1472,125:184,Colored_Demiurge.jpg)

 No.65081 [Open Thread]

Okay, so I was just thinking.

If we roll with the whole Gnostic shebang, you know, Demiurge and all that jazz, could you theoretically hit Demiurge-level consciousness through gnosis and just send him a message? Like, a cosmic "reboot now" command?

I'm picturing reading a ton of books, like, distilling the ultimate knowledge nugget from them, then meditating hard AF to reach the Demiurge's crib – or even go beyond. Then you just blast him with this info and bend him to your will, force a reality restart based on your own desires.

But what if you got even higher than the True God in Gnostic lore? Could you then reboot the Realm of Ideas itself?

Just throwing it out there. Discuss.

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 No.65100

>>65098

I already saw the last video btw

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 No.65389

>>65081

One thing I dont understand is why so many diseases.

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 No.65396

>>65389

Are you familiar with Michael Levin's work?

By controlling the flow of energy through your body, it is possible to shape it like clay… Growing new organs, changing their shape, telling cancerous cells to stop their rebellion and act like normal cells…

Even growing organs of an animal of a different kind… I can't help but wonder, if the mind of a human were to enter the body of a monkey, would it be enough to reshape it into a human-type body?

Either way… When your mind has access to a tool that can change the body so easily and so drastically, you can only blame its tendencies, developed by lifetimes of indulgence, for whatever imperfection you've got.

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 No.65410

>>65081

Most religions do not consider it necessary to define God. Therefore, any being who exceeds the capabilities of a mortal human can be considered a god. God does not have to be omnipotent, omniscient, knowing the future. For example, for the goddess of beer, Ninkasi, these qualities are not necessary.

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 No.65415

>>65093

>>Demiurge

Demiurge is an ancient Greek word that translates to God the creator.

and a daemon in ancient Greek means something completely different from what demon means in English, because there was a vile influence of Christianism.

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 No.65351 [Open Thread]

I got kidnapped and taken to an underground base, and now I do not know if I am in the real world or the simulated world I was put in before.

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 No.65372

>>65351

this is all fake. the only way to go back to your reality is by completing your finale mission. the agency will send hints later, agent

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 No.65413

>>65351

It looks like believers in the god of sleep Hypnos. There is a popular opinion among such people that it is unclear what is reality and what is a dream, and perhaps reality is just a dream.

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 No.65284 [Open Thread]

What is the verdict on the "inner monologue?" Can humans be split into groups of those who can visualize their thoughts and those who can't? Like many, I was surprised, when this topic started surfacing on the internet, to learn that some people claim not to be able to conjure mental images at will.

I thought perhaps those people don't understand the question. Perhaps those who claim we can imagine pictures aren't explaining what it is we are doing when we think. Are there really varying degrees of conceptualizing?

If so, how do those that claim they can't visualize at all ever invent things? How can they understand concepts like beauty, abstraction, and recursion? Do they not have an inner voice when they read or think? This topic is well-discussed and documented, but what is really at play?

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 No.65287

There are those who wish to see something, yet don't experience an image.

There are those who wish to hear something, yet don't experience a sound.

But for every living adult person, whenever they wish to know something, at least some idea will be experienced. Cause this type of imagination is crucial for survival, and everyone is forced to train it. Even if most abandon such exercises way before reaching anything resembling excellence.

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 No.65405

>>65284

I blame fluoride in the water.

Back when humans were drinking from wells and rivers this was never an issue. Even the romans had open flowing aqueducts.

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 No.65412

>>65284

I'm completely satisfied with the internal dialogue

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 No.65386 [Open Thread]

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 No.65387

Everything is magnetic if your magnet is strong enough… You can find animal levitation videos on youtube.

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File: b5e123b088804f5⋯.png (1.22 MB,828x820,207:205,ClipboardImage.png)

 No.65339 [Open Thread]

I can't stand the people in the city I live anymore. On the streets, everyone looks away or appears wide-eyed like they've been caught in a lie and/or are scared when they're near me. There are old people I pass by who give me dirty looks and spit when I walk by. People charge me slightly higher at the grocery all the time. I refuse to believe I'm that repellent. It's maddening. This has been going since forever, at least back in High School I could avoid it better.

If it is gangstalking, what in heaven's name could I have possibly have done to deserve it? I don't care about being a slave in a totalitarian system, I just don't want people to hate me for no reason, what are they even told?

I want for the rest of my life to be one act of goodness. But goodness comes from within, it is chosen, if I cannot choose, I have ceased to be a man. I feel very low in myself, I can't see much on the future, it's as if at any second something terrible is gonna happen to me. To be honest I'm starting to look foward to it.

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 No.64541 [Open Thread]

Fell down the rabbithole of psychogeography/deep topography and the dérive after I looked into Katharine Emma Maltwood’s discovery of the temple of the stars at Glastonbury.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landscape_zodiac

The Discovery of a Prehistoric Zodiac in England (with Plate XI) by K. E. Maltwood in Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada, Vol. 37 (1943) [missing plate XI depicting the terrestrial zodiac]: https://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1943JRASC..37..269M

Same article with the plate (XI) in The Journal of the Royal Astronomical Society of Canada 1943 Vol 37 Iss 7 on The Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/sim_journal-of-the-royal-astronomical-society-of-canada_1943-09_37_7/page/268/mode/2up

Gandalf's Garden, Glastonbury Giants, Mary Caine: https://archive.ph/efUHz / https://web.archive.org/web/20070531220127/http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~pardos/GGZodiac2.html

Maltwood’s idea of the temple of the stars/terrestrial zodiac was featured on an episode of Ancient Aliens, but it was very much a letdown. It would be nice to see a deep-dive into her idea and its relation to the mythos of King Arthur (the round table being the zodiac, and the knights represented by the celestial signs).

Nick Papadimitriou is easily the most interesting figure I have come across in quite some time. He is at the center of the documentary The London Perambulator, and the director, John Rogers has also uploaded several scenes that were cut to his YouTube. Most of the resources I have found on the French Situationists and the dérive, psychogeography, and Papadimitriou’s deep topography focus on urban environs.

Any resources that focus on ancient landsPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.64656

File: 7eb7457ec99f48a⋯.jpg (1.43 MB,2217x3004,2217:3004,Europe_a_Prophecy_copy_K_p….jpg)

There is a lot of overlap between psychogeography/deep topography and ley lines and sacred/occult architecture. Here are a few links on ley lines and esoteric architecture. Again, not found much on the genius loci/ancient monuments, so anything on that is most welcome.

Video “Inside Deep Library” by John Rogers: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=vhqphBVhKdM

The Old Straight Track: Its Mounds, Beacons, Moats, Sites and Mark Stones (1925) by Alfred Watkins: https://archive.org/details/b29827553/page/n7/mode/2up

Review of The Old Straight Track in The Geographical Journal 1926, Vol. 68, issue 2: https://archive.org/details/sim_geographical-journal_1926-02_68_2/page/152/mode/2up

Modern thinking about ley lines - reply to a skeptic: https://archive.ph/a3DR0 / https://web.archive.org/web/20240301033550/https://stonesofwonder.com/ley2.htm

Sir Thomas Tresham's Triangular Lodge - Everything2.com: https://archive.ph/tfLNj / https://web.archive.org/web/20250123213825/https://everything2.com/node/1241850

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rushton_Triangular_Lodge

Rem Koolhaas and the Bourgeois Myth of New York (Gabriele… – SOCKS: https://archive.ph/NeIsi / https://web.archive.org/web/20241208071210/https://socks-stuPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

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 No.65325

File: 9b8615e40719933⋯.jpg (1.02 MB,1511x2326,1511:2326,Lud_Heat_and_Suicide_Bridg….jpg)

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Found a wealth of interesting information on this topic lately. Lud Heat (1975) by Iain Sinclair introduced the idea of “lines of influence” formed by churches and monuments designed and built by architects following the Great Fire of London in 1666. This idea was picked up by Peter Ackroyd in his 1985 novel Hawksmoor, and inspired Alan Moore to write the graphic horror novel From Hell.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawksmoor_(novel)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/From_Hell

“I think that the dead are the great teachers, I think that all of these sites could be possible to get into a sort of meditative wisdom exchange with the dead. The dead don’t stop, I mean the energies can’t possibly just stop or decay at that point. I think distinctly that the sort of dreams of the dead fertilise the ground of those churches. [Normally?] I think that in some way that the force of the church could be cancelled by the removal of the dead from underneath it. ’cause by lying these dead, who represent different periods in time, so that the present is constantly there, because people are being buried all the time. You’ve got them laid out geometrically underneath the whole body of the church, they are the emanations of the dead rising. And there are the praises lifting through the roof, you’ve got [code?]”

— Iain Sinclair interviewed by Paul Green, The Lud Heat Tapes (1979), originally made for BBC Radio 3

The Lud Heat Tapes 1979 - with Iain Sinclair and Paul Green: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=eXR2Px3aNB0

Interview with author Paul Green - The Thinker's Garden: https://archive.ph/QKSdv / https://web.archive.org/web/20250726101838/https://thethinkersgarden.com/interview-author-paul-green/

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 No.65279 [Open Thread]

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 No.65257 [Open Thread]

This is one of the strangest cases that has ever happened in the city of Tokyo.

https://aoiwave.wordpress.com/2025/07/04/am-i-pretty-now-the-last-recording-of-yanagihara-suzune/

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 No.65285

This is terrible writing. Either give up or write so much that eventually your style is the opposite of what it currently is.

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 No.65169 [Open Thread]

so maybe 2 month ago i went to a spa with a pool and stuff, my friends are very messy and extrovert so i was feeling a little left out, the pool party is over then we came home its was around 1 am we all get in the car they put very loud music and since we r not listening to the same music i was js looking at the window when they were all dancing and screaming the lyrics. i forgot to mention that the path they took to go home was like a field with a road in the middle, as i said i looked at the window bored, Then i saw 2 girl i thought sincerely that thye were at a costume party bc they had a very pale makeup and lipstick that away, they were pale with a black dress i got interests in them and i look behind me to see the other window to see them again, but i didnt saw them. i was scared bc they couldn't walk that fast but anyway i went home i slept. since that day i feel watched and i feel like someone is tickling my feet at night and books from my room fall the light isnt working sometime and i found weird things in my room like my mom stuff get into my room when i havnt toutch them. If any one have a idea ill be happy to hear what could it be, and sorry for my terrible english.

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File: 4cbc547e2cc110f⋯.jpg (16.3 KB,612x382,306:191,OMN.jpg)

 No.64285 [Open Thread]

Hello from the future.

i am posting this from the future. NO, i am not a time traveler, i am talking from from the future. there is a difference.

the year in which i am in is 7981 after christ. the year you are reading this is 2025. reply and i will tell you everything about the next 6000 years

OMN

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 No.64604

Tell me the name of the next pope

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 No.64776

>>64482

Xi dies of a.heart attack in 2034, zang ping replaces him, zang gets assassinated, china falls and becomes a puppet state to america

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 No.64777

>>64448

I have a full timeline starting from 2077.

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 No.65114

hello. if you can find me, explain to me what you think is going to happen so i can expand the number of actions that help me survive that i take responding to what i have learned

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 No.65115

though, i'm not specifically asking Geist to explain that to me, others may too

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