bbfd0b No.16941509[Last 50 Posts]
Name more blatant example of developer ruining artistic vision of the original
Pro tip: It's impossible
How can game from 11 years ago look more realistic and gritty then this trash? How can one studio miss the point of a game that they are remaking on this scale?
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41320e No.16941510
>Name more blatant example of developer ruining artistic vision of the original
Warcraft 3 Reforged.
At least I still have the original game intact in both cases.
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da0a6c No.16941521
Silent Hill HD edition. It's hard to blunder a remaster as much as this.
>>16941510
I'm guessing you didn't update original WC3 because I remember that forcing you to update because of reforge and breaking it at launch.
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000000 No.16941537
It was a slanty's attempt at appropriating Western fantasy to begin with, there was nothing left to 'ruin'
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adce09 No.16941547
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16941509
They better not fuck with the OST.
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c39156 No.16941549
It's the same team that remastered Gravity Rush and Shadow of the Colossus. I never played those remakes, but I guess someone who did would know what to expect.
>>16941509
>How can game from 11 years ago look more realistic and gritty then this trash?
If you're comparing those boss shots to the original's introduction, note that the original's intro was pre-rendered, while the remaster's was 'supposedly' running on the hardware. The original intro also had a dusty sepia. Combined with the superior pre-rendered shadows, it made it look pretty grim.
I would hope that they'd use pre-rendered video for the intro yet again, once they finally release. The footage is probably more indicative of what to expect in-game. I would otherwise argue that only the flamelurker is the only downgrade, because it straight up looks more stereotypical demon, as opposed to the flaming horror it was before. Inb4 they make flamelurker easy because he was a common casual roadblock, despite never being hard to begin with. I actually really like the new skeleton.
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adce09 No.16941553
>>16941549
I only whant one change: that you can use multiple of the same item that give you souls at the same time.
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adec8f No.16941560
The remake looks soulless
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9a95c4 No.16941561
If previous FromSoftware games are anything to go by, I wouldn't worry because the final product will look nothing like what they promise anyway.
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6b9cb3 No.16941566
>>16941547
Anon have you watched trailer? They did altered soundtrack and I would argue for the worse. Can't tell yet, maybe they messed up only opening soundtrack but something tells me they changed whole thing.
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7ebe1b No.16941567
I swear to god if they just revamp everything to make it dodging big man with a sword simulator like Dark Souls 3 I'm gonna lose it. Demon's Souls is the best in the series because it understood how to make bosses memorable instead of them just being memorizing when to dodge.
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644527 No.16941569
What a disappointing remake. Monkey's Paw strikes.
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9aec14 No.16941571
>>16941567
you dont dodge ? are you one of those retards who used sheilds in the orginal demon souls ? kill yourself souls series was always a dodge and hit game,dont give false info faggot,not cool to give false info people can see it through
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84cb09 No.16941572
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adce09 No.16941573
>>16941566
I have seen it now, such a disappointment, at least I won't have to buy the ps5 anymore.
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800daf No.16941579
>>16941571
Understand what he's saying retard. Fighting every boss in Demon's Souls required different tactics unlike in DS where every boss is just about dodging at the right time. Enemies but bigger. There are exceptions like Twin Princes, Abyss Watchers etc which were more than just enemy but big.>>16941571
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95c6c7 No.16941585
>>16941560
It is, Fromsoft isn't responsible for it. Sony decided they need an actual good game for their shit console and they own the Demons Souls IP.
If Fromsoft isn't doing the remake there is no chance that the cut content from the original is going to be in it so the remake is pointless.
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6fe1af No.16941592
>>16941509
You're just being negative, man. The remake was really needed.
60 fps, proper online, perhaps even the missing archstone will outvalue the aestetic you seem so attached to.
It's rich for you to complain about artistic vision when souls games have always been about the gameplay anyway.
Screw off.
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adce09 No.16941594
>>16941592
>proper online
So you want me to pay for "Sticky white stuff" messages. You screw off.
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6fe1af No.16941596
>>16941594
>he doesn't want to ruin newbie's day by hitting them a thousand times with a broken scraping spear for minimum damage and maximum salt
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adce09 No.16941597
>>16941596
You want to pay extra to do that, eat shit.
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6b9cb3 No.16941599
>>16941592
>60fps
You will have choice, higher resolution with 30fps, or 1080p 60fps. So they even made compromise in that respect
>Perhaps even the missing Archstone
What's the point of some randy developer adding missing Archstone? The only thing that could happen from that is them fucking up lore of the game, maybe even to the point of ruining whole story.
>It's rich for you to complain about artistic vision when souls games have always been about the gameplay anyway.
You would think that might be the case until something like this remake happens, then you realize that half of reasons why souls games have been so good, has always being strong artistic vision behind them.
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c1f671 No.16941601
I hated the trailer, it lacks the original game's atmosphere completely.
These screenshots do look a bit more promising, to be honest
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8a014e No.16941605
>>16941549
I heard good things about the Shadow of the Colossus remake.
Apparently for years after the game's original release that was a dedicated group of fans online trying to find the last secret in the game. Eventually it was found that there wasn't one, but in the remake the guys added something new to the game as an homage to those fans.
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167e19 No.16941610
>>16941594
Casul detected.
But I won't even bother if you can't hardcore minmax to grief noobs, just like I didn't even played Shitkiro.
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02b945 No.16941626
>>16941601
generic unreal engine lighting?
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6324c3 No.16941633
Maybe they'll port it to PC too :^)
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2c7924 No.16941634
>>16941579
> Demon's Souls required different tactics
yea so did all the other souls games nigger
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6f4564 No.16941640
Will this be PS5 exclusive or will it get a PS4 version like some early next gen games get?
Also, is the PS3 version still worth playing with the online turned off? Is there any kind of homebrew online community? And how hard is it to track down a working copy of the original?
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8450c7 No.16941654
>>16941509
>>16941510
>>16941521
ps3 Demon's Souls on pc with an emulator already looks better then this trash. fuck sony
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e75a7a No.16941673
>>16941661
thing is graphics and system specs mean nothing if everything looks ugly or is full of pozz and sjw marxist contempt. that's why the switch (basically a low spec android tablet) is doing so well. not to mention its still one of the few platforms friendly to Japanese games and gamers. Nintendo is just as greedy and evil as any corporation buy they still understand how to sell games. I just wish developers would stop trying to push graphics on a system that wasn't designed to look much better then a wiiU. I would much rather have solid 60fps game play and some jaggies then blurry as shit anti aliasing and sub 30fps garbage.
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e75a7a No.16941684
>>16941678
meh, I always preferred a sooth 60fps game to anything else. even in the 8/16bit days. super mario bros runing at a solid 60 blew my mind as a kid and I never looked back. (same with sonic, I feel sorry for pal anons)
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e75a7a No.16941687
>>16941676
>Remember back in 2007 when nobody care about fps and crysis kill pc and people love it.
Not really, I remember being being disappointed that most 360 and ps3 games ran at sub 30fps and less then 720p. same with crysis, by the time I had a pc that could play it I didn't give a shit anymore and moved on to cod zombies.
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8a014e No.16941714
>>16941684
>super mario bros runing at a solid 60 blew my mind as a kid
I don't believe for a fucking second that you knew what FPS was as a kid playing Mario. I didn't hear a single word about FPS until I started hearing it from shit heads in console war threads.
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e75a7a No.16941718
>>16941714
I had a very strong interest in computers, and film making from the age of 5. I also learned everything I could about how camera systems, monitors and televisions worked. I collected all kinds of manuals and books about the subject. not to mention computer gaming magazines. you can find talk about bad frame rates (and frame drops) in printed reviews of ports on sega's zaxxon. if you had been following computer and game tech for a long time its just something you would have picked up on. (how old were you when understood what a frame rate was?)
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7ebe1b No.16941746
>>16941634
I literally cannot think of one instance of a boss having a unique mechanic in Dark Souls 3, at least nowhere in the realm of what Demon's Souls offered. Dark Souls 3 was a dissapointing generic and pandering entry in the souls series overall not just because of the samey bosses.
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ddc73c No.16941813
>>16941509
Nigger wtf are you talking about? It's a fucking trailer. Wait until the game comes out before you post this shit.
Exactly what part didn't live up to your expectations?
>>16941549
The GR and SoTC remakes were perfect. I have full faith in Bluepoint.
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580a80 No.16941815
>>16941813
>Wait until the game comes out before you post this shit.
The game already came out, this is the problem. Fuck off with your remakes.
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433b1c No.16941860
>>16941813
>b-but it's just a trailer
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97f161 No.16941914
>>16941815
>>16941860
>WAAAHHHH A TRAILER CAME OUT AND IT ISN'T EXACTLY HOW I WANT IT THE GAME IS RUINED FUCK MOMMY I THREW UP ON MYSELF HEEELLLLPPPPPP
Yeah, fine, I fell into the "b-but it's a trailer" meme, but come on guys. Something different doesn't mean bad. Give some specifics on what you didn't like you cunts.
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e9b1c2 No.16941915
>>16941914
at this point it still needs a PS5 to be played, that already makes it a pile of shit. call me back if it gets a PC port. (even then its a day 100+ prate if that even)
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97f161 No.16941916
>>16941915
>at this point it still needs a PS5 to be played, that already makes it a pile of shit
This I can agree with
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644527 No.16941920
>>16941914
The art style/direction is what people are hung up on.
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737e99 No.16941923
>>16941914
It's a fucking re-release to milk cash from fanboys. The game itself is still perfectly playable (without multiplayer), same as 95% of games these losers are "remaking". They've managed to convince "people" to buy the same fucking thing multiple times and there are idiots who still defend this practice. I could understand if it was a DOS game or something.
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97f161 No.16941926
>>16941920
>The art style/direction is what people are hung up on.
Understandable, it does look a bit different, but then again we're 11 years on. A lot of how DeS looked was because of the PS3's hardware - style through limitation. I personally am fine with a bit of a style change as long as they keep the tone for the areas as intended. Tower Knight's area looks a lot brighter, but then other areas look darker. Let's just hope we're not getting another DaS 2 cocktease with the lighting.
>>16941923
>It's a fucking re-release to milk cash from fanboys
Congratulations, you have figured out what a fucking business is. Oh, I'm sorry? Were you hoping Sony would remaster Demon's Souls because they really love the game's art direction? Grow up.
>The game itself is still perfectly playable (without multiplayer)
Never understood why you retards insist on this argument. This goes both ways. Don't want to play the remaster? That's fine! While you're playing the game with all of it's most interesting, online, mechanics broken, I'll be playing it again with a fresh coat of paint with hundreds of others who will be playing it for the first time. Maybe they'll even add the 6th arch stone. I expect some of the bad jank will be fixed up a bit so it's a bit more enjoyable, too!
That said, only if it comes to PC. Fuck buying a PS5.
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737e99 No.16941929
>>16941926
>Were you hoping Sony would remaster Demon's Souls
I was hoping they would make a new game, you dummy.
<Don't want to play the remaster? That's fine!
>if you don't like it, don't buy it
>argument
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703c3f No.16941930
>>16941929
>I was hoping they would make a new game, you dummy.
Yeah, me too…
>>16941929
>if you don't like it, don't buy it
>argument
Yes? Your point being?
It's not as if you don't have alternatives or reference points. The original still exists and there is a small community playing on modded servers. You don't have to buy the new one. It's right there if you're really that passionate about sticking with the original, always has been.
If I should want to buy the new one, to use my wallet to show my support for specific titles, that's on me. I'm happy to cough up a bit of premium for access to new servers with new players and a fresh take on old content. That's just the way the world works.
Do you think I buy every game I play? Nigger we're on /v/, not reddit.
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ec6d0a No.16941932
>>16941813
There was in-game footage in the trailer.
One of these looks dark and dreary and set in a decaying world.
The other looks like a pretty run o' the mill RPG with sun shining and fair weather. Someone just needs to do some weeding…
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6d7cae No.16941933
>>16941926
>it does look a bit different, but then again we're 11 years on. A lot of how DeS looked was because of the PS3's hardware - style through limitation
And that's exactly what everyone liked. I'm not sure why you're bothering to defend this pile of crap. This isn't a sony forum.
>>16941932
They don't know what the fuck they're doing. Didn't they also butcher Shadow of the Colossus? What a bunch of retards.
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ebbd08 No.16941934
>>16941926
>anyone who isn't a $ony-bootlicker is retarded
go back to resetera or reddit
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cf628f No.16941939
>>16941934
>anyone who isn't a cuckchan contrarian is a redditor
ok faggot
>>16941933
>And that's exactly what everyone liked
Agreed. I'd definitely be upset if they got rid of that soft haze that covers most of the PS3 version, love that shit, but I think brightening/darkening select areas to accentuate the tone of the overall game isn't necessarily a bad thing.
>I'm not sure why you're bothering to defend this pile of crap
I'm not sure why you're bothering to tear down 40+ hours of unreleased content based on 2 mins of footage. All I've been saying is that holding onto every single little thing from the original and throwing a fit over a fucking teaser trailer isn't exactly productive.
The answer is the same - none of us have anything better to do.
>>16941932
If you wanna boil it down to such a basic comparison, sure. Nice use of biased language.
Let's take a closer look
<Textures
>Original
Tower knight looks a bit more unpolished
Walls have dirt and grime
>Remake
Tower knight looks a bit more shiny - Ageed that this isn't quite right, but if you look at the bottom of his shield, you can see it's rusted from being held on the ground for so long, which is a nice touch
The walls have the same level of filth - see the stair rails in the bottom right. The bit with the leaf still has the wet patch at the top.
<Skybox
>Original
All white, flushed out, nothing much to say.
>Remake
Mixed cloud textures - dark rainclouds and softer white clouds hiding a mountain. If this isn't just a texture in-game, that's fucking impressive.
<Lighting
>Original
Dark, kinda green. Looks strange and otherworldly. Cool as hell, but is it appropriate for this area? We're not in the nexus or anywhere that should look otherworldly?
>Remake
Bright, clear. Probably what people are upset about, but remember where this is in the game - the top of a mountain.
If the valley of defilement looked this clear, THAT would be inappropriate. Top of a mountain? Yeah maybe that works.
Maybe if you could give examples of what a "nun o' the mill RPG" that looks like the remake I might understand you a bit better.
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982f0b No.16941942
>>16941634
You shouldn't post here if you're underage, wouldn't your mom and dad get worried that their son posts on le evil 8chin?
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89a809 No.16941945
>>16941640
>Also, is the PS3 version still worth playing with the online turned off?
I wouldn't say so. Having the experience of wandering through the game, running into messages, bloodstains, and ghosts of other players going through the same game. That was the soul in Souls games.
All this other faggotry about lore, and PvP, is just bullshit. Without that experience of being in a shared, but still isolated, world with other players the game is genuinely not as enjoyable. This applies to the other games as well.
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8d55bb No.16941950
do we know how Bluepoint is remaking this? Is this a swap to whatever engine Dark Souls 3 was using (is engine even the right word?). It'll be interesting if they keep everything 1:1 from the original with regard to world tendency.
Also… what's the chance we get the final archstone? or they make it DLC
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8b56c1 No.16941955
>>16941942
>some anon points your bullshit faggotry
<lmao XD underagefag
my dear fag do you really think a underage fag would have balls to post on this site let alone find it ?
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6b9cb3 No.16941967
>>16941950
>do we know how Bluepoint is remaking this? Is this a swap to whatever engine Dark Souls 3 was using (is engine even the right word?).
They are using in-house engine that was developed when they worked on SoTC remake. Basically, they are taking just core code from original game and putting it into their own engine. This is why animations, physic and other things stay the same as original game without them wasting time trying to code it to be as close to the original game as possible.
>Also… what's the chance we get the final
archstone?
It's probably going to happen, since they did created additional "big secret" in SoTC remake, that wasn't in the original game.
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207b52 No.16941972
>>16941955
well you certainly did.
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737e99 No.16941973
>>16941955
>>16941972
You people really are deluded if you think today's average 15 year old is any different from average 20 year old.
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112a4c No.16941977
>>16941509
Alright, here's my opinion. I just think that they better take this opportunity to add in the sixth archstone, refine some of the outdated mechanics (fuck gyro controls for gestures, fuck the summoned phantom rating system etc), add in features from the newer games (plunging attacks, kicks, riposte a guard broken enemy, etc) otherwise it'll be wasted effort for nothing because all the soulsfags who are spoiled by the conventions that were established in Bloodborne and DaSIII are going to be in for a rude awakening if they expect this to play anything like those modern counterparts, and the playerbase will drop like flies after only a short amount of time, and the game will fall into obscurity yet again.
Plus I'm not paying 700 trumpbux for one game so it better (but probably won't) be on PC.
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8b56c1 No.16941985
>>16941972
read this >>16941973
anon here is dropping redpills
as a 22 hot male i agree now sucky sucky my dicky granpa
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7165a6 No.16941986
>>16941973
15 year old girls are purer than 20 year old hags
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7d3d2b No.16941990
>>16941986
you like them teen and small breasted ? me too
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2dd230 No.16942006
>>16941977
Kicks suck, I keep doing them on accident. Just not worth it to have them.
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95566d No.16942015
>>16942006
>we shouldn't have kicks because my ham hands can't do things right
Keep your finger off the thumbstick when you R1.
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95566d No.16942055
Look at what they did to the fluted armor.
They've ruined it.
THEY'VE FUCKING RUINED IT
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2dd230 No.16942066
>>16942015
>avoid using key buttons to attack or move
lol no thanks.
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565792 No.16942115
I've never played Demon's Souls and even I can tell that the new style is garbage in the side to side comparison.
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774af6 No.16942116
>>16941932
The game is just a few post processing effects away from looking like the original.If the devs won't do it it after the backlash modders can
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167e19 No.16942119
>>16942116
>The game is just a few post processing effects away from looking like the original.
From looking like the original intro CG, you mean?
Are you all niggers retarded, trolls or just downright hipsters that never played the original?
Demon's Souls looks like crap. Bloom and Blur all the way up in my ass to hide low-res and lack of details, weird piss color everywhere, enemies looks like tabletop RPG clay model(fire-lizards are laughable), horrible sound effects, no shadow, depth-of-field blur after 2 meters, weird lighting spheres surrounding pitch darkness.
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c698c2 No.16942125
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7ebe1b No.16942128
>>16942119
>Bloom and Blur all the way up in my ass
You can turn off both bloom and depth of field through a mod now.
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ee640a No.16942146
>>16942119
✔️Weirdo that plays as girls in games confirmed
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2e1e85 No.16942177
>>16941939
>throwing a fit over it
lol
people not giving deep tongue love to the bung of this Raid: Shadow Legends lookin’ ass trailer are “throwing a fit”, he says.
Stop being a bitch-nigger, for real dude 🙄
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a63b75 No.16942178
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ffa6f7 No.16942188
>>16942006
even DSP doesn't have this problem you mongreloid.
>>16941945
Well apparently you can connect to an unofficial server still and have multiplayer that way.
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6fe1af No.16942196
>>16941977
plunging attacks wouldn't work well in demon's souls because this fatass exists
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94f7ea No.16942280
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94f7ea No.16942281
>>16942196
>attempt plunging attack
>he just looks up and swallows you
there's your fix
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000000 No.16942386
>>16941592
The remake was needed, but was it necessary to be so fucking generic and uninspired?
Also, atmosphere and setting is what makes Demon's souls so special compared to the rest of the subsequent games. Fuck off, consumerist.
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619594 No.16942459
>>16941592
>>16942386
>The remake was really needed.
Was it? The original looks perfectly playable to me.
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e4827e No.16942461
>>16942459
if you own a ps3 that is ,even then framerate is a joke and a insult to pc master race lets just hope they port it to pc this time
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000000 No.16942464
>>16942461
You can already play it at 60 fps on an emulator, you idiot. https://youtu.be/Nx66X9dzXo0
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6fe1af No.16942465
>>16942464
>>16942459
I played the original and got the platinum trophy back in the day, so I'll address the problem it has.
>framerate
Lowest spot in the list since it CAN be fixed by emulation as some have stated
>graphics
Not much of an issue but some areas and buildings do look bland and the textures are real garbage
>physics
They feel off, like in the original dark souls. Sometimes you'll slip sideways and just plummet to your death, some other, you'll fall for ages and take barely any damage. It's just unsatisfying, and this game in particular does have some platforming in it, with the whole second archstone having a big section where you drop down in a pit
>quality of life
This REALLY need addressing. You can only use one soul at a time. You can't queue up grass eating for multiple consumption like you could with estus flasks. Ladders are SLOW. Elevators sometimes kill you outright. Some hitboxes are fucky. Etc.
>game balance
The game needs a Bloodborne system with the herbs. Carrying 99 of any kind is plain retarded. It should be 30 max for the smallest kind, 20 for the medium, 5 for the strong, and 1 for the two full heals of white and black herbs. Even with those restrictions, PvP will still be much longer than in other games, if one decides to quickbar all of the herbs. Also, magic is too OP early game, and too garbage late game. Miracles are mostly trivial things, and some weapon upgrade paths are plain shit and not that useful. Some weapon categories like STR get all the love, and FAITH gets no love at all, that's without doing missable quests that are mostly tied to world tendency
>world tendency
I don't even need to start. Needs more ways to influence it, or an option to momentarily lock it.
>PvP/Co-Op
PvP is mostly trash because of infinite healing, otherwise fine despite the lack of ladder mechanics and the lack of a plunge attack.
Co-Op is particularly close to my heart, and it really is utter trash. The game is divided by "zones" meaning if you're trying to get summoned you'll see white fog walls appear everywhere, and you're forced to sit still while someone picks you up, this also applies to invasions. It would benefit greatly if you could just roam around and kill mobs, or even better if you could invade in other areas of the map (the game already has the technology for it, since invading or using white soap stone in Tower of Latria can get you summoned for the Monk's bossfight regardless of your progress with the bosses)
>Pure Bladestone
Needs to be included in crystal lizard's drop table, as it was previously intended
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2e1e85 No.16942716
>>16942280
Too much of a faggot to ignore the bait and not reply
Too much of a bitch to actually do anything with said reply
lol
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26755f No.16943289
It is not about something as subjective as the atmosphere, it is about the fucking areas itself.
they went full "hurf durf dark souls 3 cathedral" and just trashed the militarist keeps of the original. Which then makes all the soldier and knight enemies standing around look retarded and out of place unless they make them EVEN MORE fucking generic world of asscraft style.
Then there is the shitty foliage pasted everywhere, and why the FUCK is there TREES up there?
Doesnt stop at the levels themselves, they even shat on the cover armor turning it into dark souls 3 knight and showing everyone that they are probably reusing assets, and at the least copying the style of that game.
Someone probably already posted about flamelurker.
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644527 No.16943299
>>16943289
Sadly people don't care about that. They just see pretty graphics, castles and demons.
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580d2a No.16943311
I think it looks good though, don't really get the hate, if you don't like it don't play it, the sperging is kind of embarassing.
A remake of a good game is not enough to make go out and preorder a PS5 though.
>but muh souuul, look, this old screenshot is a bit darker and shittier, means is more soul reeeeee mommy help, the remake actually remade shit
>>16941571
souls series was about adapting to challenges, any way you find works best is valid. Having different play styles you can switch and try out made it fun, doing nothing but roll and butt stab is really missing out on the variety the game offers to tackle the same enemies.
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373de7 No.16943416
it's sad it got the Dark Souls 3 treatment, aka the Bloodborne treatment
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373de7 No.16943418
>>16941939
you are a fucking retard
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2d1478 No.16943449
>>16943299
>pretty graphics
but it's not pretty, just dull and generic, no soul
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95566d No.16943492
>>16943311
We get it, you're a retard perfectly content to eat whatever shit is plopped onto your plate, no standards whatsoever.
Now shut the fuck up and go back to reddit.
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30ee9d No.16943540
NEW THING BAD, OLD THING GOOD
despite the fact that none even played the old thing because how crude it was
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2ddd96 No.16943547
>>16943540
Demon's Souls was played by and liked by almost everyone on /v/ with access to a PS3 when it came out, newfag.
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19fa24 No.16943549
>>16943540
you have to be 18 to post here
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fdaab9 No.16943552
>>16943549
An insufferable contrarian too?
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9aec14 No.16943585
>>16943552
that too if we are to be honest for once
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2e1e85 No.16943725
>>16943552
>Contrarian
literally not an argument but great for revealing faggots such as yourself
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200e96 No.16943726
>>16943311
The game looks like shit mate, no amount of tired strawmanning will fix that. (Seriously though I’ve seen that same exact fucking line so many times. For real dude, try harder)
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f50e7a No.16943755
>>16943552
>contrarian
you are a retard
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fdaab9 No.16943760
>>16943725
Was i trying to make an argument?
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