0f8ad1 No.16939424
Why do these systems despite their disproportionate sale numbers to other Nintendo hardware lack in the software department? Wouldn't more sales result in more games? But the drought on these systems is real. Why do you suppose that is?
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7e3e52 No.16939434
>>16939424
Quality > Quantity
Animal Crossing can be considered a reason to own either alone. And then there are games like Smash that should last a whole lot as well with all collectibles. Also, I don't think either library is small, specially with all the ports in the switch.
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c05e41 No.16939466
>>16939424
Nintendo dropped support for the 3DS before the natural end of its lifestyle due to trying to force more people onto the switch. It should've gotten another 2-3 full years of games than it did, rather than a couple of late life remakes.
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824a95 No.16939471
>>16939424
You accidentally the verb.
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3876aa No.16939475
>>16939434
>Quality > Quantity
>Those hand-cramping controls
>Those absolute disregard for anything even close to ergonomic design
>Quality
People don't buy Nintendo products to play. They buy them to look geeky chic on their nerd-shelves for cred on their twitter profiles or to shut their kids up. Nintendo is the Apple of the videogame market.
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9be7a0 No.16939476
>>16939424
Two reasons: 3rd parties hate Nintendo because I don't know why, and Nintendo drops software development during the last third of a console's pre-planned life cycle so they can focus on the next one. I guess the idea is to establish a strong library of 1st party games and then leave the field to the 3rd parties, but that part never happens.
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0f8ad1 No.16939480
>>16939434
>Quality
Not really the argument I'm having here. I do not notice a particular increase in quality, I do notice a particular lack of video games and more ports than originals.
>>16939466
I believe Kid Icarus Uprising was the last first party Nintendo game, afterwards there was some 3rd party support still with Pokemon and Kirby.
>>16939476
>Nintendo drops software development during the last third of a console
Why did they start doing this after the Wii/DS?
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3876aa No.16939496
>>16939480
>Kid Icarus Uprising
That was actually a fantastic game. Shame it came out when absolutely nobody wanted a 3DS, and was forgotten about when people did finally start to adopt it. Also, Medusa's voice makes my dick diamonds. Cree Summer did a good job.
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9be7a0 No.16939500
>>16939480
>Why did they start doing this after the Wii/DS?
They have always been doing that. Maybe the GameBoy and NES had extended support stretching over the entire lifetime, I don't know about those.
As to why: hardware is where the money lies. Maybe not in the sale of the hardware itself, but establishing a large hardware base leads to a larger fishing pond for software developers (1st, 2nd and 3rd party).
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0471a8 No.16939502
>>16939496
Not to mention its control scheme didn't really fit the 3DS default hardware. I really hope this series gets a follow up because I agree it's a great game.
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1193aa No.16939510
>>16939502
>>16939496
It was intended to be a Wii game you can tell so hard it was a last minute port. If only I could play the game with an actual wii mote. The default control scheme just doesn't enough buttons.
>>16939500
>they have always been doing that
Nope. Clearly the Wii and DS continued to receive first party games in the last 3rd of their life and not just shoddy ports either. Don't be changing history on me now.
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886236 No.16939515
Part of it is to do with nintendo being notably old fashioned to work with, even if you are a publisher, that and modern game dev is EXORBITANTLY wasteful of resources which means working with below the "standard" for resources on a platform is uniquely difficult. Also a lot of the "Userbase" for third party titles just is on xbox/playstation, so it's a gamble if you can actually get people to give a shit about your game that don't have the buy in of it being a "Series" that consumers are multiple times over preinvested in.
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000000 No.16939523
>>16939424
Because niggers were crying about shovelware on the Wii they implemented stricter quality control obviously
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2df174 No.16939535
>>16939424
What are you talking about? They sold LESS than previous platforms.
3DS took a nose dive compared to DS, and Switch was replacing both 3DS and Wii U, and sold less than 3DS alone.
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3876aa No.16939541
>>16939523
>Because niggers were crying about shovelware on the Wii they implemented stricter quality control obviously
Have you even seen the eshop? 80% of it is near mobile tier garbage, and the rest are either low-effort last-gen ports and a handful of AAA trash with their graphics kneecapped. Sprinkled with a few first and second party titles which never ever drop in price, like a fucking storefront aristocricy. It's not as bad as the Microsoft store, but they look familiar to each other.
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a1e07b No.16939558
>>16939510
>the Wii and DS continued to receive first party games in the last 3rd of their life and not just shoddy ports
This is true, the real reason it happened recently is because of the failure of the Wii U, that caused them to drop development for it and shift to Switch. Then, the real kicker, that Switch would basically be handheld and console in one, ended the 3DS' lifetime early too as Nintendo had all its first party devs working on new Switch games too (I was expecting another Pokemon game, for example, since Gamefreak has a history of continuing to release games late into a console's life). In order to keep away bad press, they ran damage control about continued support and released a couple of ports.
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b354ab No.16939559
>>16939476
nintendo's 3rd party support is known to be abysmal. look into any of stories around things like project h.a.m.m.e.r to get a sense of how they treat external and especially western developers. this is compounded by the fact that they use so much nonstandard hardware, it's far easier to release a game on the other 3 platforms. not to mention they have a history of different compliance standards e.g mandatory easy modes on the gamecube.
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000000 No.16939579
>>16939559
Wasnt switch meant to be a beefed up shield?
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000000 No.16939583
>>16939559
and the ps3 used their own processor and still managed to get plenty of 3rd party games
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b354ab No.16939593
>>16939583
yes because even with it's weird ass architecture, the ps3 still used a normal controller and wasn't an underpowered gimmick machine that you have to completely redesign your game around.
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ee2166 No.16939688
>>16939502
>Not to mention its control scheme didn't really fit the 3DS default hardware.
Meh, stylus aiming would've been more accurate than dual analog, so it's probably how I would've played it anyways. Murder on your hands though. Japan apparently got a stand for it? That would've been nice.
>>16939510
>It was intended to be a Wii game you can tell so hard it was a last minute port.
Fuck, now I want to try mapping a wiimote to the stylus in Citra or something.
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d32822 No.16939693
>>16939434
>Quality > Quantity
It's a fucking android tablet. There's no quality in that. They should have made a proper console instead of a half-portable crap.
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7e3e52 No.16939698
>>16939475
Hamfist fingers Is your problem. Also, I was talking about the games themselves not the hardware, and even then, nothing more comfortable than Wiimote+Nunchuck.
>>16939480
I don't see how ports are bad considering they are going to the better console in the market. The whole "portable" gimmick of the switch is enough for a port to be worth it.
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7e3e52 No.16939699
>>16939693
Tablets don't have analog input. You could buy a controller for it, but then what would be the point? The ones that come with them are overpriced to the point of being ridiculous like the nVidia shield shit, and even then, all the games there are mobile tier garbage instead of actual proper games. Android sure as hell don't have games like Bayonetta.
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0f8ad1 No.16939710
>>16939699
You speak of real (proper) games when Bayonetta fails to hit a consistent 60fps on Switch on top of being a port of a port of a port. Switch is simply weak and has a rather lackluster library wouldn't you say? The truth of the matter is that Tablets are customizable so saying they don't have analog input is false. The Switch is basically one of those customized tablets. The only difference is their OS. Android isn't to blame for what games are released on its platform. Android is also a piece of shit but it sure as hell could run Bayonetta at 60fps if it ever received a port.
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a1e07b No.16939729
>>16939688
Stand was included with Kid Icarus in the US. You also got a couple VR cards.
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886236 No.16939736
>>16939710
Actually, because of how android works is a lot to do with how the games are on Android. (Play store is also a factor)
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7e3e52 No.16939773
>>16939710
>Switch is simply weak and has a rather lackluster library wouldn't you say?
Console wars tier argument. It has more to do with developers not being able to port things correctly. Games developed specifically for switch runs fine, and even when they don't, your regular consumers and normalfags don't give a shit, why would they? It's the same game on the go with just some minor frame drops.
>The truth of the matter is that Tablets are customizable so saying they don't have analog input is false
Already said you can buy them separately, but then what would be the point? And, on top of that, good luck having games like Brath of the Wild or Mario Odyssey in those shit platforms. If your argument is shaping to be "tablets should have those games", then kill yourself, cancerous mobilefag.
I couldn't be more glad that Apple Arcade is the blunder it is despite having games like Shantae and the Seven Sirens.
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000000 No.16939824
>>16939710
Bayonetta failed to hit a constant 60fps on PS3 and xbox 360 too?
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ad5be5 No.16940018
>>16939424
i have over 100 3ds games so i dont consider it lacking at all, its probably the best nintendo library ever
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736a84 No.16940020
If the rumor is true then 3ds games will come to the switch
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0f8ad1 No.16940807
>>16939523
How does that translate in less first party support?
>>16939558
>failure of the Wii U
But the Switch received less games than Wii U, if we're assuming that despite them profiting off the Wii U and reporting a net gain they consider it a failure. Them only having the Switch to worry about now wouldn't that mean more games for the damn thing? GF is as far as I'm concerned a 3rd party developer. They release on all consoles. Still Switch being a success and being a hybrid one would assume we'd receive more games in return.
>>16939559
>mandatory easy mode gamecube
What's this? I can't find any article on it.
>>16939583
So did the Wii. Maybe I'm just blind but perhaps 3rd party support has dropped in quantity for all major consoles?
>>16939824
That was before the PC port running on potato hardware. I'm just saying is all.
>>16939773
<Switch is simply weak and has a rather lackluster library wouldn't you say?
>Console wars tier argument
Not really. Just an observation from the most possible objective standpoint one could be at. I'm not sure how it's waging a war when compared to old consoles. But you're free to disagree. I asked a question, gave my own opinion and that's that.
>>16940018
Name them. I'm looking at my own library as we speak and I can't say I'm as confident as you are. I can safely say most of the games on here (pics) are trash that I barely touched.
>>16940020
So more ports? What a well educated guess.
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35f477 No.16940808
>>16940020
Yep and the switch has a second screen addon coming out soon too for better facilitating the 3ds games
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000000 No.16940817
>>16940808
>second screen addon
What the fuck
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4786e8 No.16941696
>>16939579
>Wasnt switch meant to be a beefed up shield?
I think switch is just a modified NVIDIA shield k1
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9232a0 No.16941748
>>16940807
>wouldn't that mean more games for the damn thing?
no because it sold well too early and shit got fucked up, now they feel like they don't need to come out with as many system sellers
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9232a0 No.16941749
>>16940807
also
>no detective pikachu
shit taste confirmed
unless you already deleted it
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0f8ad1 No.16943167
>>16941749
>detective pikachu
Literally a mystery for 5-10 year old children. Not only are mysteries a saturated genre. Video games offer the worst mysteries there are. Read a book or something if you're sincerely commending a game for children. Ofc I deleted that boring ass shit.
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40abb4 No.16943170
Nintendo`s own IPs are the main reason tho buy Nintendo Consoles, they mostly compete with themselves in their own niche of the market and maintain a tight control of their own brand, they know thats their strenght.
Most other games are just easier to publish in other consoles or PC and probably are more easier to program for that hardware and have less restrictions, Nintendo's hardware is usually not that potent and has all the gimicky peripherals shit to deal with also. You can see how downgraded multi system releases look and play compared to the same game in other consoles. But Nintendo`s own games are always well produced for their own hardware.
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256388 No.16943373
>>16939424
> The Witcher 3
> Hollow Knight
> Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
> Xenoblade Chronicles 2
> Bayonetta
> Tales of Vesperia
> Mario Maker 2
> Super Mario Odyssey
> Celeste
> Astral Chain
> Cuphead
> Dead Cells
> Dragon Quest 11
Yep, you can apologize any time.
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c08bde No.16943376
>>16943373
>only soyshit
Shit taste, but you are correct:
Doom, Skyrim, Paladins, Splatoon, Dead by Daylight, Dark Souls, XCOM 2, Warframe, Rocket League, RE: Revelations, Outlast.
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f44e45 No.16944064
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
Since the 3DS will pretty much cease development pretty soon, it's better to get creative.
Citra (The 3DS Emulator) finally has a working build for the Switch:
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0f8ad1 No.16944084
>>16943373
>all that 3rd party
>can't even tell me what's supposed to be good about them
I don't even want to talk to you. You can't even speak for yourself.
>>16944064
Why the ever loving fuck would I want to emulate on anything but my PC? Just in case you weren't aware the 3ds is also lacking software.
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d36ab4 No.16947990
>>16944084
>Why the ever loving fuck would I want to emulate on anything but my PC?
Switch has touchscreen suitable for 3DS games, your PC (probably) doesn't
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30e66f No.16947997
Nintendo's a bit shit at backporting their catalog, and unfortunately shortsightedness with how the DS mode of the 3DS was implemented causes issues with launching software from the SD card, meaning the WHOLE FUCKING BACKCATALOG OF DS GAMES could only really be ported to a system that could do emulation of the DS proper (the wii u).
There's also all the shit to do with their incessant relaunching of the virtual console over and over even same gen with the wii u and the 3ds with NES and SNES titles.
Also the WHOLESALE ABANDONMENT of the Wii Controller architecture has made it unnecessarily complicated for good deal of the wii's software library to be available without additional work for compatibility with the switch's controllers.
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c77963 No.16948007
>>16939424
the wii was Nintendo's most popular/best selling system. but its software attach rate and game sales were garbage. outside of wii sports and Mario tittles the Wii was a disaster for gaming. the virtual console was a great idea but they stooped supporting it way too soon and they should have reestablish it on the switch by now.
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1f985b No.16948011
>>16948007
>its software attach rate and game sales were garbage
It had a 9.0 attach rate, that's higher than the 360 and ps3, and that's without gta, cod, final fantasy etc.
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000000 No.16948049
>>16948007
>Mario Kart
>Wii Fit
>LoZ
>FUCKING SMASH
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3912ce No.16948061
>>16948011
>>16948049
all first party tittles, the 360 and ps3 killed the wii in third attach rate.
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9523db No.16952050
I love my pokemon machines and there's nothing you can do about it
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