fa680d No.16909565[Last 50 Posts]
https://www.fatchan.org/v/
Hey, I know I bug you in private, but I'm really starting to get concerned with the direction the site is taking. I know we're allowing loli content on general porn boards, but we're not restoring the loli boards themselves. Additionally we haven't been as transparent as we should be. I don't know if this is because of the cloudflare shit or whatever, but I'm sick of being scared of big tech and big banks trying to shut us down. The answer to these problems isn't to cave in, but rather be bold and start our own services. However I feel that due to fear that we've both removed one of the most important aspects of the website and that the software is both constantly breaking AND that we've failed to launch a project like Odin four months to when it was actually supposed to be ready, that the worst may be among us.
I've started to prepare a secondary site in the even that you or Jim decide to shut down 8chan. I know you don't exactly want to cause a panic, but at the same time we NEED to be transparent with our userbase on where the site is going and what we want to do with it. regardless many people are sick and tired of the secrets/lack of transparency and just want shit to be done. I don't care that Odin was a failure or that susucoin didn't explode like you expected it to. The truth is that many people are leaving the site in droves because of the decisions and lack of both transparency and interaction from the site administration. We're already deplatformed, relying on fucking a TOR2Web service and calling it "revolutionary" won't fix shit.
We need to be clear and bold with our messaging. I'm sick of this shit, and Jim having a fit with me over the direction of the site was the straw that broke the camel's back. I spent five years breaking my back for this site, for this community, I do NOT want to make another bunker because you refuse to talk with the user base, because you're focused on projects that actually make money. Give "ken" and "ryu" some actual backup since it's clear that two men need more time and resources to program fredrick's shitty code. I have no ill will towards you, nor do I have any ill will towards your father. However I am sick of the cowardly approach we're taking with administration. I created a plan to gather everyone back, and you just dismissed it and said "we don't need a last hurrah right now", but WHEN will we need that last hurrah? When it's too late?
Please stop beating around the bush with the shitty rebrands, the over promising marketing, the whole youtube shit, the lack of board creation, the lack of loli boards, and the lack of development of new software. We need to bring back Board Creation, it is the life blood of this website. Stop being afraid and grow a pair, I trust you to do the right thing. Big tech, big banks, big government and ALL of the media want us dead, because they can't control us, if you give in to them then we might as well shut down, since 4chan already exists. I'm asking you from the bottom of my heart, please stop being scared and bring back 8chan.
Mark.
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fd6942 No.16912557
Reminder that the cakekike is still on a massive banning spree, most of which don't even have a reason attached.
https://fatchan.org/v/logs/04-12-2020.html
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86627a No.16912558
>>16912544
>By all means, keep on drawing attention to it.
No it's better to have it out right now.
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fa680d No.16912562
>>16912533
>I talked with a handful of other BOs in the past day and they told me that Mark reached out to them and had been planning this for a few weeks.
>a few weeks
You fucking liar.
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fa680d No.16912563
>>16912562
Note that I wasn't 100% sure at the time, and was just gathering information. but now I am.
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3fcd83 No.16912564
>>16912503
Yeah that's why I still can't really decide whether I agree with /a/'s board being taken or not. On one hand yeah the head meido was being a retard and asking for it but on the other I still feel like the premise of the "make your own board and do what you want with it within the limit of US law" should allow you to do just that.
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9aa2ef No.16912565
>>16912533
>I talked with a handful of other BOs in the past day and they told me that Mark reached out to them and had been planning this for a few weeks.
Not to defend Mark but what exactly is wrong with this? People have been complaining about the state of 8kun for months and bitching to him directly about it since he was the only line of direct communication with the Administration, of course he would make those grievances known to other people. How is that D&C?
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fa680d No.16912567
>>16912565
Nothing, it's in THE FAQ that I can have my own site as long as I keep this one open
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3b9c77 No.16912568
>>16912519
Sure, but Jim wants to run this place like a business. That means if you don't perform to the owner's wishes, you get booted. It only shows Jim is not in the right mindset to run an imageboard and it'll only end up a dead one.
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3783f4 No.16912569
>>16912565
You're only allowed to keep your board if you pay your respects to /newsplus/ daily, being a dirty subversive pinko who objects is a no-no.
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53a1ce No.16912571
>>16912557
shut the fuck up /cow/tard
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e9f9ca No.16912572
>>16912568
If he wants to turn this place into something profitable, then this site is doomed.
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86627a No.16912573
>>16912569
> being a dirty subversive pinko who objects is a no-no.
Then Ron better take the board away from Bell on /fur/ then.
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c5b8ae No.16912574
>>16912562
Uh oh, looks like someone got outskilled.
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f68f35 No.16912576
>>16912533
Go fuck yourself. This site is dead.
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fa680d No.16912577
>>16912574
He's literally lying to you, look at the date.
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86627a No.16912578
>>16912572
>>16912568
What do you mean that people won't flock to a yotsuba style imageboard nigger rigged into Zerohedge 2.0?! INCONCEIVABLE!
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fd6942 No.16912579
>>16912571
Go back to his hugbox, you sycophant
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2a54d2 No.16912580
>>16912533
>letting /v/ go to claims
Why are you even going to give a rando who hates this board even the remotest chance of shitting it up?
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c5b8ae No.16912581
>>16912577
OH, so you were planning this for a week then? nice. Outskilled.
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37e396 No.16912582
>>16912533
Trying to prevent an exodus by getting rid of existing moderators just increases distrust and animosity. It would be a lot more productive to prevent an exodus by making sure it's a site people actually want to stay on. Migrate the remaining boards that have been requested, be responsive to board creation requests, and focus on technical issues.
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e17784 No.16912584
>>16912577
>planning for weeks=putting the plan in action
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a79a55 No.16912585
>>16912544
He already clarified it that loli's allowed, they're just trying to sort-out any platforming issues first.
>>16912562
Mark, shut the fuck up. You've literally deleted a #GG thread on Prolikewoah because the anons there started wising up to your bullshit, then act like you didn't do it when I confronted you on your shitty website. Go back to your personal hugbox - oh wait, you already banned every idiot that followed you.
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3b9cae No.16912586
>>16912580
Now we'll see if Mark really was the worst possible BO for /v/. Enjoy your new tranny overlord.
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12ff1e No.16912587
>>16912533
Ron you fucking retard holy shit
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fa6ebf No.16912588
>>16912581
>lying to me is perfectly acceptable as long as its not a jew
Get your head out your ass and open your eyes, nigger.
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86627a No.16912589
>>16912580
They don't give a fuck about us or the other boards except /qretardation/. We all only exist as camouflage and ablative armor for the Qfags.
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86627a No.16912591
>>16912585
>He already clarified it that loli's allowed
Pigdaddy says different.
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d16387 No.16912593
>>16912523
>I don't want to fucking see [politics] every two seconds, I just want to talk about video games is that too much to ask?
Isn't this kind of unavoidable when devs keep injecting politics into their games every two seconds? You can't really talk about most new games without skirting around that elephant in the room with you. Sure, not all games have some ham-fisted political message in them, but I don't really see threads for those have politics in them.
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88169c No.16912594
>>16912577
I can see the date. He didnt lie. And you just gave him proof of what he said. You are one dumb fuck. You get what you fucking deserve.
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a79a55 No.16912599
>>16912577
So it was a week and half rather than a few? Wow you really showed him.
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53a1ce No.16912601
>>16912594
no you dont get it /cow/tard. ron said few weeks but it only was one week. mark is innocent
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d0b765 No.16912602
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fa680d No.16912604
>>16912594
>>16912599
>He didn't lie
>says a few weeks
>right after Jim says delete v
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083d0a No.16912605
>>16912584
WHAT DO YOU MEAN I HAVE TO DO IT FOR FREE NOW?
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3b9c77 No.16912607
>>16912580
Whats the easiest way to delete /v/ without doing it yourself? Letting chaos take over and hope the new BO is an absolute fuckwad. Who knows what will happen. I can see Jim deciding not to delete /v/ and even attempting to come out as the "good guy" by replacing the horrible BO with himself or Ron.
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f94ca5 No.16912608
>>16912571
>muh /cow/tard boogiemen
you truly deserve to be stuck in whatever shithole mark creates for you ni/GG/er cattle
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e90d84 No.16912609
>>16912562
>>16912577
Are you retarded or just stupid or both?
That screenshot actually proves that Mark was planning this shit for at least a week.
>haha Ron said weeks! But it only was one week! Gotcha! Liar liar pants on fire!
Fucking newfags, I swear.
It's clinically retarded faggots like you that killed imageboards and this one in particular.
Just fucking neck yourself
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000000 No.16912611
>>16912533
>D&C the userbase
The userbase was already divided after the site went dark for months only to come back as a shadow of its former self.
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a24a34 No.16912613
>>16912533
Hi Ron, first of all, thank you for your work on maintaining one of the last internet bastions of free speech and anonymity. There are people on other boards monitoring this drama recently and they are growing uncertain on the future of 8kun. I'm quite sure that the sentiment portrayed in those chatlogs isn't the complete picture and you are still dedicated to the integrity of the whole website, not just a few selected boards. I suppose clarifying that could help reinforce the faith in the future of 8kun as a stable and a comfy nest for anon.
PS. I hope that when you sort things out, someday the board creation process will be reopened. I see many people complaining about new boards not being accepted and I'm not even talking about degenerates.
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75ddf2 No.16912614
>>16912533
>>16912562
You two having a little lover's quarrel?
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a79a55 No.16912615
>>16912604
You're arguing semantics. You still were planning it regardless and advertised for anons to come with you, and they would had you not been such a fucking complete and total sperg that you went on a mass banning spree on your shithole bunker that nobody wants to follow you now. Just look at Prolikewoah's meta thread; nobody there wants to be there because of you and would rather stay on PLW if possible. But because of your spergouts, you pushed every anon away.
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53a1ce No.16912616
>>16912608
go back to your datamining website /cow/tard
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d0b765 No.16912617
>>16912609
That is Mark. He just proved Ron right. Since he was planning on quitting anyways he can't complain about being fired anymore.
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c5b8ae No.16912619
>>16912604
Fuck off, jeez don't you have a board to moder- OHWAIT.
Hey at least you have your thriving board where everyone followed you t- OHWAIT.
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f94ca5 No.16912621
>>16912604
Go back to your little cardboard castle on fatchan you fat kike you have no power here anymore
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d785d7 No.16912622
>>16912533
bring back /sudo/ and give more updates on what you and your team are working on
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86627a No.16912623
>>16912609
>That screenshot actually proves that Mark was planning this shit for at least a week.
So it's pretty clear that things are falling apart more and more each day and that we are going to have to leave sooner or later.
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083d0a No.16912624
>>16912463
>>16912470
>>16912619
Don't you guys know your fucking place?
RESPECT MY AUTHORITY RIGHT NOW
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0df0d8 No.16912626
>>16912533
Have you talked to your dad yet about his comments on not putting up the loli boards last night?
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a79a55 No.16912627
>>16912533
Can you bring back /sudo/ and be more transparent with everything? Part of the reason for this shitshow is the lack of communication from you.
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12ff1e No.16912630
>>16912616
stop posting niggers
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e17784 No.16912632
>>16912533
>my original plan of letting /v/ go to claims in two weeks is final.
I don't think letting any random autist in is a good idea, please consider one of the Vols taking over. At least there's a precedent of avoiding the possibility of another Kampfy happening here.
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c5b8ae No.16912633
>>16912632
This, let the vols decide who wants it. No way it should go to a random.
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3783f4 No.16912634
Recap of events? Let me see if I got it right.
>Jim berates Mark for not hotpocketing his shitty news board no one cares about properly enough
>says "fuck v, delete v"
>Mark starts getting apprehensive about staying on 8kun the way things are going
>reaches out to certain people, planning to set up a backup bunker
>creates this thread
>Ron/Jim removes him for being a subversive pinko trying to sabotage rightful clay
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d0b765 No.16912637
>>16912632
>please consider one of the Vols taking over
As long as they don't try to sabotage the board for Mark.
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5e4cbb No.16912638
>>16912533
If mark wanted to D&C the userbase wouldn't it have made more sense for him to keep vch open after people had been posting on it for awhile and 8kun opened and ran like shit? Instead he closed down his bunker to force people to come here despite there people people asking to just keep the bunker up.
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3783f4 No.16912639
>>16912634
Forgot:
>puts /v/ for free grabs lmao, surprising "hopeful" anons who thought they'd get a better board owner
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12ff1e No.16912640
>>16912634
Don't forget how they removed him as a BO despite not breaking site rules
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f94ca5 No.16912641
>>16912616
>anyone that shits on mark is a /cow/tard
ok ni/GG/er cattle enjoy your stay on fatchan with mark and 5 other anons
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edcb85 No.16912642
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86627a No.16912645
>>16912637
>>16912632
>>16912633
Why worry? This board's going to hell in a hand basket anyway.
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000000 No.16912646
>>16912616
julay isn't a datamining website, Mark fucked up by sticking disinfo from dolphinfag and then not making a sticky to clear the air and make up for his idiocy
that said, some of the Mark haters on /cow/ are every bit as retarded as the ni/GG/ers they see everywhere
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12ff1e No.16912650
>>16912645
There's a lot more to 8kun than /v/
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a9af0e No.16912651
What I've learned today is that everyone is retarded and hates everyone else.
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3783f4 No.16912653
>>16912650
Oh there sure is, imagine the amount of hidden Q boards with brave patriots uncovering the truth. Trust the plan.
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3fcd83 No.16912654
>>16912650
>There's a lot more to 8kun than /v/
Good joke
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e47311 No.16912656
>>16912650
going by PPH, not really.
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bfb54f No.16912657
>>16912656
>he doesn't know about Q
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3783f4 No.16912661
>>16912654
Yeah it's kind of hard to look at it in any way other than they killed their own site's activity. I mean there's the Qboomers they love so much in unlisted boards, but according to Jim "they're not important and will go away in november", if he wasn't bullshitting.
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dc12be No.16912662
>>16912542
The current /v/ volunteer team members will have priority during claims. If none of them are interested in being BO, then I will choose from people who email the claims account.
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58b0e1 No.16912663
>>16912519
>That's reason to fire him from that position. Not to take away his board.
That's absolutely right, Jim should have just fired him, /v/ was a completely different thing. Jim ousted Mark from /v/ for no other reason than because he could.
But the vast majority of users me included have dreamed of /v/ under a different BO for a long time, even if we did not imagine it happening like this. That's why this move was/is being met with little question or protest. Though I do admit I'm surprised at how little protest there's been, so much that I'm starting to genuinely feel sorry for Mark. Must be hard on him realizing how unwelcome and undesired he was.
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a24a34 No.16912665
>>16912650
This. Also I don't see /v/ dying, because most people aren't concerned about the dramas (although they are entertaining), they come here for the vidya.
>>16912656
Quantity =/= quality
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d0b765 No.16912667
>>16912663
>I'm starting to genuinely feel sorry for Mark
He brought it upon himself. He had years to build goodwill with the userbase but he didn't even try. His gambit might have even worked if people liked him enough to follow him.
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3fcd83 No.16912668
>>16912665
There's no quality on 8kun either, its just a sea of shit.
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fa6ebf No.16912669
>>16912665
As long as quanity doesn't reach 0, that is.
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a9ad64 No.16912671
>>16912519
If Mark wanted to maintain an unpaid position as a board owner, he shouldn't have accepted a paid position doing whatever the fuck he was being paid to do. When you get terminated from a job, your employer typically cuts all ties with you. Mark put all his eggs in one basket, probably thinking it was great that he could get paid for being the fuckup he always has been. Someone who's never held an actual job doesn't understand how a normal employment relationship works.
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211b53 No.16912672
>>16912662
Choose how exactly? Look at their resumes?
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f94ca5 No.16912673
>>16912662
I think that is a bad idea. If any of them are compromised from this situation, you could end up with a Vol that claims it to hand it right back to Mark.
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3783f4 No.16912674
>>16912662
But what if Mark's crew are also subversive shills who don't #TrustThePlan and don't praise /newsplus/? You're in big trouble, man.
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a79a55 No.16912677
>>16912663
Did you see what he did on Fatchan? He had a decent size of anons with him that all left after his spectacular meltdown.
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083d0a No.16912678
>>16912663
>spoiler
Don't worry, Mark is way too stupid to realize it.
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3fcd83 No.16912681
>>16912671
Yeah but to be fair its like firing someone from a business then banning them from doing business there as a client/customer.
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056be6 No.16912682
>>16912662
Let me do it bro. I’ll let people do whatever the hell they want as long as it isn’t against the rules and actually enable free speech.
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211b53 No.16912687
>>>/v/16912676
This joke's played out. Stop.
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a0dc33 No.16912689
>>16912676
Fucking newfag kill yourself.
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e90d84 No.16912690
>>16912677
Genuinely curious, what happened over there?
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3783f4 No.16912692
>>16912671
>deposit money in bank
>start working in the same bank
>get fired for doing a poor job
>banned from entering bank and have my money confiscated
lol
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4ba9b8 No.16912693
>>16912656
Then start posting on more boards faggot
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12ff1e No.16912694
>>16912653
>>16912654
>>16912656
>>16912668
Anons, just because you never bothered to venture far outside of the top few boards doesn't mean that this is all there is.
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a32f9e No.16912696
>>16912533
>I have decided that I am correct
Okay.
Maybe instead, your whole interpretation of events is incorrect due to your autism, which is THE SOURCE OF THE GODDAMED PROBLEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. I.E.: Your lack of communication skills and not wanting to be criticized.
This reminds me of a friend of mine who ALSO has autism and is annoying to argue with, because he think that his interpretation of events is the only one possible, because of his expression of autism, he can't see "outside" of himself.
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3fcd83 No.16912699
>>16912694
There was quality on 8chan but that's all gone on 8kun, prove me wrong.
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5e4cbb No.16912702
>>16912693
>please increase pph on these other boards for boomer jim
Fuck off faggot
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86627a No.16912705
>>16912693
Am I suppose to sock puppet my way across 10 or 15 dead boards?
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a9f511 No.16912706
>>16912692
Oy vey anon, don't blame banks because you can't do a good job.
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e17784 No.16912708
>>16912673
Vols loyal to Mark out of principle are rare, tons of /v/ offshots happened because they can't personally take him anymore.
I hope Vols care about the board more than they care about the owner.
>>16912681
I think it's closer to letting someone who burned bridges/had their bridges burned with you in a position to fuck you over.
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bcc7ff No.16912709
>>16912692
>/v/irgins are this retarded
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a79a55 No.16912711
>>16912690
Imagine one of Mark's typical spergouts except it's his own website that's a meta thread. When some anon pointed out this particular part of the chatlogs he leaked he immediately banned him, then banned anyone else who posted it, then deleted the #GG thread on prolikewoah because anons there were shitting on him. And I know he fucking did it because he was the one who made the damn thread and it didn't show up on the board logs it was deleted by kamisama.
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12ff1e No.16912712
>>16912699
/loomis/ alone proves there's still quality stuff here, as hard as Jim might try to kill all of it.
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3783f4 No.16912713
>>16912709
already outed yourself by checking tor ID, sorry friend
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d50151 No.16912716
>>16912690
Same thing as what he did here: Mass post deletions and a handful of bans for mocking his poor board owner performance. Mark hasn't had the bunker for more than a couple of days and he already can't contain giving his detractors yet more ammunition.
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a9ad64 No.16912717
>>16912681
Mark is seemingly free to post. His participation is simply reduced to that of us plebeian Anonymous users. He would rather go try to spin up another /v/ so that he can maintain the status quo of his life up until this point.
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12ff1e No.16912719
>>16912677
>>16912711
This is such a strange situation. If Mark wasn't such a sperg he might actually have been able to pull a tvch-style imageboard and really get off of 8kun.
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58b0e1 No.16912721
>>16912677
I'm aware but I didn't see it, I first arrived there literally less than 5 minutes after he shoah'd the thread. I guess no one bothered to archive or screencap it, if someone had it would be around by now.
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bfb54f No.16912723
>>16912690
>Mark moves to /animu/'s bunker and tells everyone to go there
>decides that the hotpocketing features aren't good enough
>moves to fatchan and tells everyone to go there
>meta thread gets spammed with a combination of genuine concerns and just shit
>mark bans people left and right
>eventually deletes the thread
>people continue to spam
>Mark continues to ban
>endless drama and accusations about who's in the wrong
>people who wanted to leave 8kun are scattered in the wastelands unsure where to go
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c14388 No.16912726
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9aa2ef No.16912727
>>16912693
Rather not get too attached to Qchan any more then I have to.
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3b9c77 No.16912728
>>16912650
No. There WAS more when 8chan existed. There hasn't been enough time for anons to come back and slowly repopulate boards. For instance, /film/ is entirely on julay now and there hasn't been any large amount of anons on the board here. Now this shit happens and there is no way in hell those boards are going to be repopulated when it is safer to stay in the webring.
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12ff1e No.16912729
>>16912702
How the fuck does it benefit Jim in any way?
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a24a34 No.16912732
>>16912696
I would also note that this community in general lacks communication skills as well. Before /sudo/ there was /operate/ and before that was /meta/. It must take enormous effort to communicate in a raging mob condition.
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a79a55 No.16912738
>>16912721
>Here's the thread before he shoah'd it and an archive of the #GG bread Mark deleted
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0e1cfd No.16912739
god damn what the fuck is even happening anymore
please don't take the last bastion of ass-backwards autism away from us, this is the only site worth a damn, the rest of the internet is fucking shit
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a79a55 No.16912740
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12ff1e No.16912741
>>16912728
There still is more to the site, nowhere near as much, but it's still there.
Fuck, if I were rich I'd just buy the site off of Jim and try to run it better. Get rid of all ads and setup a donation system to cover server costs.
Why did it have to turn out this way?
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3783f4 No.16912742
>>16912739
8kun is not 8chan. Also it's over, unless you want to hang out with the Qlarper crowd.
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a0dc33 No.16912744
>>16912690
Some anon asked him about whether a certain part of the chat logs implied that Jim and Mark made a deal with THQNordic to get shekels. Instead of just saying, “No, that’s incorrect. This is what we actually meant…” he lost his shit and banned the guy. This started a banning spree that just riled up the people there just to fuck with him. Later, after he nuked the thread, he claimed, “I was too stressed out and I just lost my job and…” blah blah blah. Just whining about how it wasn’t actually his fault.
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5e4cbb No.16912745
>>16912729
He can say
>See this chan isn't just /v/
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c14388 No.16912746
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0d3ebb No.16912747
>>16912746
Maybe you should know. In a body bag.
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40f497 No.16912751
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2596e7 No.16912752
>>16912634
There may also be an implication that he was planning on quitting 8kun in advance before all this, given the exchange between the two here:
>>16912533
>>16912562
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3d8df2 No.16912753
So are >>>/newsplus/ and >>>/qresearch/ going to get nuked or what?
They seem to be the only two things Jim cares about and the reason he thinks it’s okay to not migrate the loli boards and play around with the idea of deleting /v/, so they have to go.
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a24a34 No.16912757
>>16912741
Payment processors. Inb4 cryptoshekels.
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d50151 No.16912759
>>16912739
I'm still here to see exactly how the ride ends, but 8chan is dead, anon. And the time before it was on life support and still not really alive. Maybe it's time to play some video games instead?
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3783f4 No.16912761
>>16912753
Spammed? Maybe. Nuked? That makes no sense.
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fd6942 No.16912766
>>16912759
>Maybe it's time to play some video games instead?
This. I've been playing games in my backlog until the dust settles.
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3d8df2 No.16912767
>>16912761
Nuked by becoming unreadable, not deleted from the website. Obviously Ron would never defy daddy Jim. Most they got was one autist who posted for one hour manually last night.
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a9af0e No.16912771
>>16912723
You forgot
>/animu/ tells all the leftover /v/irgins to fuck off because they don't want anyone disturbing their tea party
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12ff1e No.16912772
>>16912765
It's this deep, personal hatred of a random board owner on an obscure website that will always baffle me.
People hate Mark to the degree you'd think he was a terrorist.
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5ec806 No.16912775
>>16912772
>People hate Mark to the degree you'd think he was a terrorist.
What are you talking about, they love Tarrant!
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fa6ebf No.16912776
>>16912772
Happens when you're underage and don't have the cognitive abilities to differentiate right from wrong.
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a9f511 No.16912781
>>16912765
>They kicked me out cuz of muh autism :(
I bet he was a turbo speg who refused to work no wonder they'll kick you out
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9aa2ef No.16912785
>>16912772
Hating Mark is fine and reasonable. Hating him to the point where you're ignoring how slimey the administration has been acting for months before and after the deplatforming is where I raise eyebrows
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bf6c25 No.16912786
>>16912562
>mark literally outs his own coup attempt planning
you can't make this up.
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c5b8ae No.16912789
>>16912785
the only thing thats going to raise is my dick when it punches through your asshole.
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3fcd83 No.16912790
>>16912712
Maybe you're right anon
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d0b765 No.16912795
>>16912789
that's pretty gay anon
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5e4cbb No.16912798
>>16912765
But that's not even his twitter
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b4e32b No.16912801
>>16912651
is that seriously the same person?
>>16912786
yeah, I too used to think he was malicious and just pretending to be retarded to lull people into a false sense of security just like every jew out there, but after all these fucksy wucksies I just don't know anymore. the sheer volume of stupidity of this guy is baffling
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b4e32b No.16912804
>>16912801
whoops meant to quote >>16912771
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9aa2ef No.16912805
>>16912789
Faggots need not apply.
>>16912798
It was his twitter, but it got banned. He's had liek 5 or so accounts by now.
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211b53 No.16912809
>>16912798
Pretty sure he had to make a new one.
Also
>desperate for Jim cock
Mark what are you doing.
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f94ca5 No.16912810
>>16912708
I wouldnt put it past them to care more about the owner than the board. Alot of the Vols as far as im concerned and from my experience have been complicit with running the board just like mark wanted handing out bans for people shitting on jewtendo, cant post wojaks, cant use the term "soyboy",etc.
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cf25d4 No.16912812
>>16912772
He helped ruin a community over SERVERAL YEARS when most of us either didn't know where else to go to find like minded people or didn't have anywhere else to go. Fuck him I hope none of you retards actually folow him to fatchan and help fuel his ego. Theres better alternatives.
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0d3ebb No.16912814
>>16912810
Right, if they really cared about the board they'd let those wacky wojaks run rampant just like 4channel.
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86627a No.16912817
GOLDENROD FOR THE LOVE OF GOD PLEASE BE THE ONE THAT CLAIMS THE BOARD
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9aa2ef No.16912818
>>16912812
>There's better alternatives.
Every alternative is shit or dead. There is no where else to go. This has been true in the past and it's true now.
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000000 No.16912819
>>16912650
There was a lot more to 8chan than /v/, there's very little to 8kun outside of /v/. The highest quality boards were never migrated.
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18f30f No.16912822
>>16912810
>mark and his meme squad won't let me post my wojaks!
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f94ca5 No.16912824
>>16912814
ok nintodler go back to your cardboard hugbox on fatchan
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50a2d1 No.16912826
>>16912692
Except he is not banned, he can still post as a regular user, in fact, he's been doing that.
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000000 No.16912833
>>16912693
You mean on the AWESOME boards they never bothered migrating? Remember the January deadline for board migrations?
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d0b765 No.16912840
>>16912817
He's been doing a good job keeping the thread clean after Mark's spergout.
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000000 No.16912844
>>16912699
this
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dc12be No.16912846
>>16912753
No boards are going to be nuked.
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86627a No.16912847
>>16912810
>shitting on jewtendo, cant post wojaks, cant use the term "soyboy",etc.
How does doing any of those things help the quality of the board? We don't want that here. No one who's sane would want that on their board. If you have an unconquerable urge to post that kind of stuff then go to 4chan and do it.
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0d3ebb No.16912849
>>16912824
Did I strike a nerve?
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9aa2ef No.16912852
>>16912810
>cant post wojaks
This is a bad thing how? Pepes and wojaks are the hallmark of a shitposting cuckchan/twitter faggot. Good riddance.
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5ec806 No.16912858
>>16912846
Except the loli ones, right?
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f83963 No.16912859
>>16912846
Unless daddy says so. Others will be sure to tell him directly about any loli boards you try to bring up.
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40f497 No.16912861
>>16912846
/animus/ recently got claimed by some retard who
made it so we can't post there or make any new threads
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a79a55 No.16912863
>>16912846
Mark said that his vol team totally had his back, I'm assuming one of them told you he's planning on trying to migrate everyone off the site?
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40f497 No.16912864
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d50151 No.16912867
>>16912846
Correct. Just left unusable for this or that reason. But I do believe you.
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971b5d No.16912870
>>16912846
Hey Ron, if you’re still lurking and reading this thread I’ve got a question for you.
So this whole thing started when Mark said that he “can confirm” that loli boards are indeed banned. But in your recent response you said that is not true at all and that in two weeks /delicious/ will be migrated. On fatchan Mark said that once site went back up you are the one who told him that loli boards were banned and then ignored him after he brought it up subsequently. Is this true, or did it not happen?
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a79a55 No.16912871
>>16912846
Bring back sudo or just communicate more than not at all
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06b165 No.16912881
>>16912846
You're not the one doing the nuking in anon's hypothetical scenario. Anons are, using a torrent of spam.
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000000 No.16912884
>>16912871
This, the decision to not make the migration of /sudo/ a priority always astonished me. It should have been the first board to come back.
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000000 No.16912886
>>16912881
lol remember /intl/ making the cripplekike assblasted by spamming the entire site?
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dc12be No.16912887
>>16912861
Ok, just checked. Send me an email if you want to claim it. Let me know here how to identify your email address.
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3783f4 No.16912889
>>16912871
>>16912884
They've been keeping us in the dark ever since 8kun started, so you're asking upon deaf ears.
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971b5d No.16912890
>>16912859
Is that you, 16/loli/ BO?
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e797d4 No.16912891
>>16912846
I hope we all learned something important for this it's that a lot of problems can be avoided completely by just stopping to talk with people.
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cf25d4 No.16912893
>>16912818
>Every alternative is shit or dead.
Look harder and post more. That's the only way of fixing this mess.
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7724fa No.16912894
>>16912846
Since apparently Mark's been the one incompetently handling board transfers and since apparently I'm a fucking retard who can't find where to email you, is there a good way to get in touch with you to get my board migrated over?
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020844 No.16912895
>>16912887
Actually that was me. I locked it down so I can prepare it for later.
You could say it is under construction.
I do log in every so often, so please uphold your own rules.
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a997ac No.16912896
>>16912846
No way this hard line stance will come back and bite you in the ass.
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5dd0a9 No.16912899
>>16912871
>just communicate more than not at all
If there was a single lesson here to learn, it would be this. Feels like most of this shit could have been avoided with just this.
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86627a No.16912901
>>16912893
I think the only way to fix this mess involves the use of a time machine and a friendly skinwalker to dopplegang moot 10 years ago.
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40f497 No.16912902
>>16912895
fuck off you deleted all the orevious threads and locked everything down without telling anyone
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020844 No.16912904
>>16912902
Telling who? The board was up for claims.
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d0b765 No.16912905
>>16912895
<The Board Owner must not make it impossible to post on his or her board
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2d8346 No.16912907
>>16912604
>right after Jim says delete v
The cap for that says "Today", so it sounds more likely he knew you were looking to bail, and it could be interpreted that "if you dodn't want to do the work you and your board might as well fuck off". Have you never had a job working for boomers before?
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020844 No.16912909
>>16912905
This is not a permanent thing.
But if Ron decides otherwise then so be it.
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58b0e1 No.16912914
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06b165 No.16912919
>>16912907
Mark has talked about the delete /v/ thing well before today, so the caps were taken earlier. Mark also said the Slack channel gets wiped daily or something, so that'd explain why he would have taken them the same day.
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b326e3 No.16912924
Lotta hotheads in this thread. Things will sort themselves out soon enough. As soon as the next DDOS attack hits for the unlisted board and impacts the entire site as per usual, the best alternative for hunkering might just keep the /v/ user-base for rebuilding. If you are an ambitious autist, now is the time to put in the work to prepare for what will surely be. Personally, I am indifferent, I would prefer a child image free site for both 2d and 3d and no discussions about Nintendo 1st party games, but it is ultimately a free site and can put up with most things except marxism friendly mods and admins. Complaining about free things is a sign of rotten souls, to be both frank and honest.
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0c6ed9 No.16912934
>>16912924
>Things will sort themselves out soon enough.
This. Trust the plan.
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35d520 No.16912938
>>16912846
>>16912846
The first thing I want to be done, is to get that piece of crap out of Gensokyo. Don't just get him out of the Gensokyo, get him out of the server because I've proved son, without a shadow of a doubt, you ain't got what it takes anymore! You sit there and you thump your Bible, and you say your prayers, and it didn’t get you anywhere. Talk about your psalms, talk about Mark 3:16… Austin 3:16 says you just whipped your ass because you can't run a server for shit!
All Ron's gotta do is go fucking post every now and then and try to dig back some of that courage he had in his prime. He can't do it, he hasn't the balls. He hasn't the will.
As Jim and Mark, I'm serving notice to every one of you fucking lolcows. I don't give a damn who you are, You're all on the list, and that's Stone Cold's list, and I'm fixing to start running through all of 'em.
And as far as this imageboard is considered son, I don't give a damn if it's Juley, or tvch, Your time has come to throw off the cakejew and be free and when you get that shot you better take it because you'll never have it again.
And that's the bottom line, because Stone Cold said so.
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5e4cbb No.16912939
>>16912924
>no discussions about Nintendo 1st party games
Are you autistic?
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f83963 No.16912940
>>16912924
Yeah, Jim dindu nuffin. Staying here and complacent is best.
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86627a No.16912942
>>16912924
> I would prefer a child image free site for both 2d and 3d
What did he mean by this?
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c5b8ae No.16912943
>>16912939
where do you think you are?
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a79a55 No.16912944
>869 active ISPs
Did Mark's ban travel that far that lost anons came back to see what was going on?
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dc12be No.16912945
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86627a No.16912948
>>16912924
>but it is ultimately a free site and can put up with most things except marxism friendly mods and admins
Well I guess you had better go to war with /fur/ then.
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fa6ebf No.16912950
>>16912944
175 UIDs here alone, even if some are proxies thats a lot of people.
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5e4cbb No.16912952
>>16912942
I believe he's saying a site with no 3D or 2D images of children/loli
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d0b765 No.16912956
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e965ba No.16912957
>>16912944
I mean, I mostly lurked some threads about actual video games until this shit went down. I imagine most anons are the same. They rarely post because they’re actually playing video games unless shit hits the fan.
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12ff1e No.16912958
>>16912894
Considering Ron probably won't tell you
admin@isitwetyet.com
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86627a No.16912959
>>16912950
>>16912944
I'm just here mostly to see how this all hits the ground.
>>16912952
>no loli
He should go post on reddit then.
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f83963 No.16912961
>>16912944
There's at least a few people on VPNs that cycle to a new IP every single post to avoid bans. This is how /8bantb/ climbed to the top boards.
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bf6c25 No.16912963
>>16912944
everyone came to watch the fat kike hang
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ed1da4 No.16912965
>>16912617
Aside from the fact that, aside from Ron not posting proof of his claim, a week and multiple weeks makes a massive difference between how much of this was "sudden autism fit" and "massive jewish plot to destroy 8kun(TM)," you're totally right and we need to stop asking questions goyim
Just kidding, go be ez to refute somewhere else, thanks
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bfb54f No.16912968
>>16912961
People are definitely abusing VPNs, even the bunkers Mark went to reached almost 200 ISPs each.
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ca67c3 No.16912969
>>16912533
do you have ANY proof of this. because at this point you look like a fucking clown who got busted slacking off and now youre blamin aaaaaaall your problems on others because you can do no wrong. mark is lasy? yeah sure but at least he provided evidence of how much of a cunt your dad is and how much he cares about the user base.
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d0b765 No.16912973
>>16912965
Mark posted the proof himself dummy.
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b326e3 No.16912978
>>16912952
Yes, that is what I meant, it is clear that is the fracture point for meta subversion. No one will argue that is also the fracture point for payment processors as well. Tough times require tough sacrifices. It may be an unpopular opinion, but not looking at any pictures of children, drawn or otherwise, on a video game site until such measures for secure process is assure is fine by me. Sure, it was easier in the old days when you would just execute pedos/marxists on the spot but those days are over.
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dc12be No.16912979
>>16912958
>>16912894
either claim@isitwetyet.com or admin@isitwetyet.com
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a32f9e No.16912982
>>16912950
Half of those are the same IP hopping faggots
>>16912924
>>16912942
>>16912952
>I would prefer a child image free site for both 2d and 3d
That place already exists: It's cuckchan.
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dc12be No.16912984
>>16912562
Mark posted the proof himself.
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a9af0e No.16912985
>>16912978
Fuck off, old man.
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dc12be No.16912986
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d0b765 No.16912991
>>16912978
>children, drawn or otherwise
If they are drawings then they are not children.
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ed1da4 No.16912992
>>16912973
t. shitter with a massive yet fragile ego and self-diagnosed depression
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6ee6c2 No.16912993
>>16912944
That's some funny shit. I know I've sense a happening brewing in the past.
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5e4cbb No.16912994
>>16912978
>no 2D loli
Dumb. That means not even posting official loli artwork from games. Unless you just mean porn, in which case that's already banned for 3D so I'm not sure why you'd bring that up.
>>16912982
hello bot
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40f497 No.16912995
>>16912945
Sent an email to claimclaim@isitwetyet.com
my email is Khan Pakhair msk.agk@gmail.com
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2596e7 No.16912997
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06b165 No.16912998
>>16912984
That's proof that Mark started preparing backups the moment Jim said "delete /v/"
Not proof of Ron's claim that Mark has been planning to leave for weeks.
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86627a No.16912999
>>16912978
You should fuck off.
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083d0a No.16913002
>>16912963
it's a nice bbq
truly we should have a ==DING DONG THE KIKE IS DEAD== gamenight
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bcd3c0 No.16913004
>>16912562
>>16909565
I like the idea of being open and communicative as you possibly can, that's a good point, but holy shit mark, pot calling the kettle black.
>>16912461
>niggerpill getting fucked anywhere he runs
Good. What are the odds he's not freddit-got-fingered?
>>16912333 (checked)
>>16912339
>>16912359
Not exactly. The name of the game is power, it just so happens that having lots of money at your disposal gives you a sizeable chunk of power, and power attracts predators.
It's not absolute though, otherwise this site would have been destroyed the moment gamergate escalated.
>>16912533
>>16912662
>>16912846
Faggots be faggots Ron. Everyone's just tired of technology providers being either noodle-spine-soyboys or two-faced cunts.
If you're just tied up in technology issues, I get you, shit happens. You'll make it, bro. We'll all make it.
FUCK YOU CP SPAMMERS LET ME TORPOST IN PEACE YOU GIANT FAGGOTS
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9aa2ef No.16913005
>>16912984
>>16912997
That's evidence that Mark was making the necessary preparations after Jim said he didn't care about /v/, not him planning for weeks.
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b326e3 No.16913011
>>16912991
I agree but tech giants may see differently and there is no set in stone law to prevent cut off of service because some lefty shows a loli to the CEO. Remember Dan Olson, they flooded the site with loli and worse because they could shut it down that way. It is the fracture issue and temporarily halting it until such infrastructure and legal footing is secured is not anymore unreasonable that being asked to stay home so you don't spread the Chinese virus.
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e965ba No.16913013
>>16912978
Nobody cares about “movement” bullshit anymore. People just want to post what they want on the site with their own boards and everything. Public image be damned. If Ron and his masonic father aren’t interested in providing a free speech platform then clearly this place is no longer what it used to be.
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d0b765 No.16913014
>>16913005
>he's never lost track of time and said something happened weeks or months ago when it was actually sooner
The important thing is that Mark was planning on leaving.
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d0b765 No.16913016
>>16913011
Pedo Dan posted actual CP, not loli.
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50e5db No.16913018
>>16913014
So have other boards, doesn't mean I was allowed to strip them of their credentials.
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9aa2ef No.16913021
>>16913014
Is that a wrong thing after the admin pretty much said he didn't care about the biggest non-qfag board and wanted to focus on /newsplus/? I'd blackpilled too.
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d0b765 No.16913027
>>16913021
No it's not wrong, that's his decision, but it means that Ron is also not wrong for deciding not to give him the board back.
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9aa2ef No.16913035
>>16913027
Perhaps. I just find the framing weird, like there was some conspiracy. You have to remember, when everyone and their mother was bitching about 8kun Mark was the only one trying to damage control it and kept parroting that Ron and co. had a "plan" and he believed in them. The narrative that now he was planning behind their back when really it just seems like he finally saw 8kun for what it was is just weird.
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f5c3f0 No.16913039
>>16912924
>>16912978
>>16913011
Just fuck off already, you have your alternatives
>>>/cuckchan/
>>>/reddit/
>>>/somethingawful/
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b326e3 No.16913041
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a32f9e No.16913044
>>16912994
>I'm one of those IP hopping faggots
Thanks for admitting it.
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40f497 No.16913060
>>16912887
Thankyou so much Ron i got ownership back ill make sure the board returns to how it was.
the asshole who claimed the board before wiped everything
is there anyway to get the old threads back?
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6df7f3 No.16913061
>>16909565
Perhaps I shouldn't post my issues with 8kun here, but honestly speed is my biggest issue. When I load a thread or make a post if I have to wait 30 seconds that is too long. Of course I am a little bit exaggerating, but loading images is no exaggeration. Sometimes shit just doesn't load for me. Maybe no one cares about speed as much as I do.
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a997ac No.16913068
>>16913061
>Perhaps I shouldn't post my issues with 8kun here
As appose to what including them in your suicide note?
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dc12be No.16913069
>>16913060
It seems to have a backup from February, will restore from that backup.
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b4e32b No.16913077
>>16913061
>maybe no one cares about speed as much as I do
ok sonic
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b653ad No.16913078
>>16912739
You just have to browse 20 different imageboards at once. I've been doing it for months now. Diversify.
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12ff1e No.16913079
>>16913069
Hey Ron, Mark says you never messaged him back when he tried to talk to you. Is that true?
I don't want to hate you or your dad and I don't like this situation, but I hope to fuck this whole storm finally acted as a wake-up call for you both.
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dc12be No.16913082
>>16913079
I messaged him back on twatter a few hours ago.
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9aa2ef No.16913083
>>16913079
Honestly anon, I wouldn't take anything both Mark and Ron are saying at face value about this situation. They probably both stonewalled each other due to butthurt.
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12ff1e No.16913084
>>16913083
Having talked to both of them privately via email before, they never spoke poorly of each other. I think Mark's issue stems from Jim.
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102ee7 No.16913088
Will the hungry games ever come back?
We really need them now more than ever.
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9aa2ef No.16913092
>>16913084
Well, on twitter Mark has tagged Ron on twitter still with clarifying his side of the story, with no such responses from Ron, so if Ron did contact him he dm'd him instead. I can see Mark just ignoring it at this point since it's obvious Mark wants to be more public while Ron wants to be private.
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93c9e0 No.16913095
>mark is now samefagging and using his cult of fatheebsonality to slather every thread with blackpill tier shit about how this board is suddenly just not going to exist without the kike goblin.
Wow you really can't just let go of your control of video game discussion can you mark, you have to keep your greasy little heeb fingers in the pie, even as you claim you are washing your hands of jims pig mud.
Even if this board spontaneously self deleted in 5 minutes I could find literally any other imageboard bunker like meguca, julay, or even goddamn kiwifarms and find better moderation and videogame discussion (and people who hate you unanimously) than on whatever new hovel you attempt to drag your fellow users to.
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e9f9ca No.16913096
>>16913092
Ron has been private for way too long, I want to know what is going on, I don't want to be lead by a leash when nothing is happening
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12ff1e No.16913097
>>16913088
I've thought about this recently, here's my pitch for additional rules as the old one was a little flawed.
>final three boards all get featured
>the winner get featured primarily and the other two getting minor features just below it
>a board cannot be submitted again for a month if it's reached the final three
>no boards from the Top 20 may be submitted
Any suggestions?
>>16913095
Where is this happening? I require proofs.
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93c9e0 No.16913100
>>16913097
Look at the walls of BOARD IS DEAD, WHERE DO WE GO NOW in this thread alone. Look at the blackpill tier niggardry in multiple other threads, check the planetside 2 thread for instance to find HOW WILL WE EVER LIVE WITHOUT THE CAKE KIKE OH NOOO NO NOO FELLOW 4 CHAN GAMER BROS!!?!?
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b92883 No.16913101
>>16913092
Internal issues between parties are generally dealt with privately in companies and shit, it keeps the drama out of the public eye and makes it seem more "professional". Gonna guess it's a good part of why Ron is trying for private. Mark is trying for public because he'd fed up with secrecy and wants to strongarm transparency.
Essentially, both are being difficult from the others' perspective. We're just kind of here. I'm just tired of the site being a broken piece of shit.
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dc12be No.16913102
>>16913092
I contacted him via DM. Not interested in partaking in twitter drama at the moment.
Not sure if you guys noticed, but I try to avoid being a drama fag as much as possible and sometimes that can be to the detriment of the userbase.
Sorry for my lack of communication. I will be more available on this site from now.
>>16913088
Is Yawn still interested in running the hungry games?
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9aa2ef No.16913104
>>16913097
He's still under the impression that the hatred that has been leveled at 8kun, Ron and Jim for months now has anything to do with Mark being butthurt, which I just can't wrap my head around if you've been lurking since the deplatforming.
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12ff1e No.16913107
>>16913100
Oh, so you're assuming it? I thought you meant you had proof.
8kun is still rightfully fucked, I'm actively looking for other sites to browse along side this one. I won't forget the things Jim said or what he did.
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fd6942 No.16913109
>>16913079
>I don't want to hate you or your dad
Jim is obviously the problem here. You should hate him, because he obviously hates us. He doesn't care about /v/, in fact he's completely against /v/. He legitimately said to delete this board for all he cares. If it doesn't pertain his shitty news board or making money, he isn't interested.
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1099b2 No.16913110
>Mark trying to make an escape route
So does this mean Mark can finally removed as BO?
If so its about time, his removal was long overdue.
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12ff1e No.16913111
>>16913110
Hi, Slowpoke! You were always one of my favorite Pokemon.
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e797d4 No.16913112
>>16913110
He already was removed.
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d0b765 No.16913113
>>16913102
>but I try to avoid being a drama fag as much as possible
That's the correct way to be imo. Ideally the new BO shouldn't even have a name and just let themselves be anonymous, to prevent themselves from becoming another Mark.
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86627a No.16913115
>>16913101
The problem is that site administration hasn't been open with us, the users, at all. Look at all that had to transpire to get Ron to talk to us, and even then we're still getting mixes messages from the site admin and the site owner.
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dc12be No.16913116
/animus/ is currently being restored from backup, so posting is disabled there until that is done.
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fa680d No.16913119
>>16913082
All you said was "happy easter"
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93c9e0 No.16913120
>>16913107
There are a dozen other micro-8chans out there atleast. One of which has a videogames board of comparable activity to here on qboomerpile, all of which have likely been disparaged by mark and his pile of simps as evil goonboards just like they did with /vvvvvv/ and /vg/, the latter of which is has recently complained about existing on his fatboard trash. Lurk and i'm sure you will find the way.
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b92883 No.16913122
>>16913115
I was just stating the general idea of what's going on pertaining to just the reactions and why there was a tug-of-war. This site has been a mess from the start, and it began well before 8ch got fucked.
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40f497 No.16913123
>>16913116
Thank you Ron.
there's also a board called /tripfriend/ that didn't make it
i know its asking for alot but can you see what happened to that aswell
thanks again for replying, alot of people want this board back.
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dc12be No.16913127
>>16913113
A few of the current /v/ volunteers have already reached out. The board will go to one of them when it goes to claims.
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fa680d No.16913129
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86627a No.16913134
>>16913120
>simps
Why can you not talk like a normal person?
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f37519 No.16913135
Wait, why is the link to Mark's bunker on the OP? Didn't Mark get kicked out of the BO position?
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1099b2 No.16913136
>>16913127
I'm still concerned about the new BO.
What if the new BO is just as bad, if not worse than Mark?
Don't know if the the new BO would be another sperg that will ban anyone for the dumbest reasons.
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dc12be No.16913139
>>16913123
/tripfriend/ added to queue after /imouto/.
>>16913129
Look at the /v/ board log. A few of the vols that are recently active on there have reached out.
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dc12be No.16913140
>>16913119
Did you eat any cadbury chocolate eggs? They are pretty tasty but seem to have gotten smaller the past few years.
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fa680d No.16913141
>>16913139
very well, best of luck to you
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86627a No.16913143
>>16913136
>Don't know if the the new BO would be another sperg that will ban anyone for the dumbest reasons.
Well I'm sure if the "dumbest reasons" will stop showing up to post then they won't get banned. I don't want to see this place turn into nujak city regardless who is BO.
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2596e7 No.16913144
A reminder that dc12be is Ron in case anyone wants to question his posts without the admin flag
>>16913102
>Sorry for my lack of communication. I will be more available on this site from now.
Take this as a lesson – if it comes down to creating a drama or leaving people in the dark for extended periods of time, it's usually better to do drama. Otherwise, this kind of drama will still happen as people assume the worst. Especially going forward, given the completely shot faith in you and your dad as a result of secret. and migrate /pol/ with an actual BO faggot, i don't care if you think it's unnecessary
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b4e32b No.16913145
>>16913141
and worst of luck to you, you fat sack of shit
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37e396 No.16913146
>>16913139
Will board migration (and creation) be moving significantly faster? It just doesn't make sense to me that after months there are still notable boards that haven't been migrated.
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d0b765 No.16913148
>>16913129
>mark is trying to sniff out the traitor
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bfb54f No.16913149
>>16913102
The whole reason this drama can manifest is because nobody has any idea what the hell is going on, and when we finally hear something it's usually vague and/or contradictory compared to other things we've heard. It makes this whole place look like some shady scheme that we're deliberately being left in the dark from.
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dc12be No.16913150
>>16913148
Well im not going to say which vols reached out. He can sniff all he wants.
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93c9e0 No.16913152
>>16913134
(you)
Sorry, allow me to correct to CUCK and that will soothe your autism.
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fd6942 No.16913153
>>16913141
Fuck off, Mark. You aren't even relevant anymore.
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9aa2ef No.16913154
>>16913140
What's up with this weird snark? What's the point of contacting him if you're not going to say anything substantial? Especially when everything is all he said she said.
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f37519 No.16913156
>Mark deleted fatchan's /v/
>/ainmu/'s /v/ will be closed next week
Oh boy, what the hell is he thinking?
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b92883 No.16913159
>>16913156
Never take any action if you're feeling mad or emotional. This is the kind of shit that happens.
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be702d No.16913160
>>16913156
He is clearly activating the Sampson option.
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a03824 No.16913161
So, Ron, now that you're answering questions, answer this:
Are you and your dad going to actually sit down and map out a plan of the direction the site is going to be taking? Going by all the shit last night, it became pretty clear that you want to head in one direction while he goes in the other.
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3997da No.16913163
Well, if something happens and either the site or the board gets sent to the shadow realm, is there any place where anons would flee to and gather after such happening? I'm afraid to lose anons once again for months as happened when 8chan went down please don't leave me you are the only people I normally talk to nowadays
and don't dare call me a faggot I'm going to rip out your fucking hearts NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS NIGGERS
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f37519 No.16913164
>>16913159
>>16913160
To me this only makes him look worse, going back on his word and all that.
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b4e32b No.16913165
>>16913150
*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiff*
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d0b765 No.16913166
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2596e7 No.16913167
>>16913163
A number of names have been thrown around lately – the webring has like 2-3 /v/ or /v/-esque boards at this point, there's newcomer 16ch run by josh, meguca, I've even heard a few guys talking about returning to 08chan.
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e797d4 No.16913168
>>16913156
He's Probably just gonna rest and bring it back some other time. Thing's didn't fly so good on it today.
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b4e32b No.16913169
>>16913163
awful cocksucker
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86627a No.16913170
>>16913163
I guess someone could set up a Minecraft or Terraria server and people could shitpost in chat or with pixel art.
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a9ad64 No.16913171
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fd6942 No.16913172
>>16913156
>Mark deleted fatchan's /v/
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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dc12be No.16913174
>>16913154
Initially when I messaged Mark on twatter, I entered the conversation in good faith. He didnt reply to me for a few hours though since he was asleep. During those few hours a few different BOs independently reached out to me about Marks D&C plan. From there I talked with even more BOs and some said they knew weeks ago and even one saying he knew months ago of Marks intent to make a new chan and get other boards to follow him there. Im not going to post those convos or which BOs I talked with, but Mark has already proven he had this plan by posting his own screenshot of him talking with one of the other BOs stating as such.
After I learned of his grand plan, I decided that there isnt much to say to Mark anymore so am only going to reply to him with pleasantries from now. I dont hate the guy, and wish him good luck with fatchan.
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26fcf5 No.16913175
>>16913156
I bet he's talking with his vols and they've decided to install Mark as a vol after the new BO is decided. And then after that, they'll transfer BO status back to him. Then it'll be back to business as usual.
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dc12be No.16913176
>>16913161
Yeah ill talk with him about it.
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2596e7 No.16913177
>>16913174
If you aren't going to post a log, can you at least give us a single name so we formally confirm this story with someone who isn't either you or Mark?
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a03824 No.16913178
>>16913175
That's extremely close to what the prior /d/ BO did.
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be702d No.16913180
>>16913164
Why would you ever trust a Jew?
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6df7f3 No.16913181
>>16913068
I have no idea, it seems like this thread is full of people complaining about drama for zero reason. I use alternatives to cuckchan and reddit for video game and political discussion so I don't get censored by jannies.
My issues aren't about petty powerstruggles which is what this is really about.
I just want an image board where I can post things and opinions about a given topic without being censored by mods who disagree. For example in cuckchan /v/ if you oppose feminism you are met with bans despite people who advocate for feminism never being banned.
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a79a55 No.16913183
>>16913174
He posted a screencap of your convo on the #GG thread, so your story lines up.
>>16913156
I think I really got to him when I posted this: >>16913093 I truly hope he finds peace and some kind of meaning, rather than his constant self-destructive behavior.
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bf6c25 No.16913186
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be702d No.16913188
>>16913174
>mark's d&c plan
I hope you're not disillusioned that the shameless, deadbeat anons here would have taken the rebranding in good stride. If it wasn't him then it would have been someone else, and we all know how well he does at getting a job done.
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1099b2 No.16913191
>>16913156
>Mark deleted his own bunker board
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c9cfff No.16913194
>>16913191
He's probably moving to whatever 16ch.nl will be called once it rebrands next week.
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2deb39 No.16913198
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dc12be No.16913199
>>16913177
Dont want to name names because not sure if they want to stay anonymous in this drama or not. Most were BO of top25 boards.
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b4e32b No.16913200
>>16913181
sure sucks being a cuckchanner, buddy, now go back
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dc9f68 No.16913201
Wait, is this finally a /v/ without Mark?
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a9af0e No.16913203
>>16913194
So he's buddying up with Jewsh again?
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2596e7 No.16913205
>>16913199
It can't hurt to ask. Let them know not many know who to trust anymore after this shitshow between you/Jim and Mark, and I'm certain at least one person's gonna be open to being approached.
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d0b765 No.16913206
>>16913177
Mark was definitely in contact with the BO of /a/, ask him.
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846e88 No.16913207
>>16913183
>Goobers killed Mark
Poetic.
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2deb39 No.16913208
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102ee7 No.16913209
/m/'s BO fucked off by the way, which is just great. I think he was also the BO of /clang/.
I'm worried about the future of robots on this site now.
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c0f719 No.16913210
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dc9f68 No.16913212
>>16913209
I don't particularly mind. A lot of popular boards had shit BO. I mean, don't get me wrong, I think Ron's administration is pretty bad as well, but maybe a change of BOs would be for the best. I think /a/'s BO was also a faggot and he was removed like some weeks ago? I'm not sure. /animu/ is better anyway.
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b7169e No.16913213
>>16912533
>I talked with a handful of other BOs in the past day and they told me that Mark reached out to them and had been planning this for a few weeks. Since I have determined that this was a pre-meditated plot by Mark to D&C the userbase, my original plan of letting /v/ go to claims in two weeks is final.
As BO of one board I can say I wasn't contacted by either you or Mark, but I also don't have any contact info out there, so I don't think he could have contacted me either. Is there any proof you talked to other BOs?
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dc12be No.16913214
>>16913205
It will likely come out eventually and I wont have to name names myself. Mark knows who he talked with and it is likely he will name them someday.
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667ece No.16913217
>>16912846
When's /sw/ being migrated? It was one of the more popular boards before the shutdown.
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1cc749 No.16913219
>>16913156
He still has the link to it on his twitter lol
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c9cfff No.16913220
I like how Ron and Jim are admin posting in a cyclical so people will have a harder time screencapping the retarded shit they're saying and making them eat it.
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6cb9a1 No.16913221
>>16913201
>Wait, is this finally a /v/ without Mark?
Apparently, yes.
Which is quite interesting because Mark is the usual scapegoat when it comes to bad moderation or site problems. Now that he is gone, it'd technically mean that anything from this point forward is the fault\merit of the userbase.
There's the next BO that nobody has any idea how he will be and there's also Ron\Jim to blame for any technical issues, which will be even more interesting considering how much they don't actually communicate with the userbase, at least when compared to Mark (Which might actually not be a bad thing, again considering Mark).
So now that the board is on it's own hands, it's gonna be fun to see what people will complain about now. :D
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c9cfff No.16913222
Oh, and anonymously admin posting at that.
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b92883 No.16913223
>>16913219
>filename
Has to add Twitterkike to his nickname list after he updates his bio.
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102ee7 No.16913225
>>16913212
The dude was doing a great job of handling /m/, though. He made a bunch of new assets and did a lot to market the board.
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dc9f68 No.16913226
>>16913225
Ah well, that's a shame.
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b4e32b No.16913228
>>16913221
>There's the next BO that nobody has any idea how he will be
it's ok I will be the new BO and everything will be great, my first action as a BO will be personally visiting each and every of the users' families and gifting them a basket of fruit and my autograph because I love you
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2596e7 No.16913230
>>16913228
stay away from my family you fruity faggot
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d0b765 No.16913231
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dc9f68 No.16913232
>>16913221
My only complain was always Mark butchering threads for wrong thinking. With Mark gone, I'm sure that will be fine too.
I just want the new BO to be fucking chill. Banning someone AND deleting a bunch of post only because you don't like it was never acceptable. So good riddance to the fat kike.
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1099b2 No.16913235
>>16913232
>I just want the new BO to be fucking chill. Banning someone AND deleting a bunch of post only because you don't like it was never acceptable. So good riddance to the fat kike.
This.
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dc12be No.16913237
>>>/animus/2462773 is now restored from backup (circa february 2020).
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9aa2ef No.16913238
>>16913174
>>16913183
>D&C plan
>grand plan
You serious? It's not just Mark that was fed up and Mark tried to damage control for you for months against anons wanting your head, starting with the brand change and then you saying Phase 2 was not needed. And every time your story is contradicted you deflect to snark. It doesn't give off a good look when just prior you were going to be "more transparent" and "reach out". And even if it was some grand plan, that doesn't stop dialogue.
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780882 No.16913239
>>16913209
Can't wait for a tranny to claim both and turn them into an /r9k/ circlejerk. Pretty soon the entirety of the board will be nothing but the herms from the Transformers thread.
Optimus Prime says trans rights! xd
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7dd320 No.16913241
>>16913237
shoulda just left that one dead tbh
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d0b765 No.16913242
>>16913239
/r9k/ are trannies now? I thought they were just incels.
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780882 No.16913245
>>16913242
They're tranny incels, they're an absolute mess of a board.
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b4e32b No.16913248
>>16913230
NO YOU MUST EAT THE FRUIT
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fd6942 No.16913251
>>16913237
>reviving that gay weeb circlejerk
unbased
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6cb9a1 No.16913252
>>16913232
I've seen more cases of shitposters going on a rampage and complaining when they're dealt with than genuine posters having their threads\posts being deleted.
And considering the amount of shitposting that can often happen, I'd rather have clean threads and having to post again than a retarded amount of derailing posts.
That really wasn't much of a point you could complain about him, unless you were a shitposter yourself, which is why you'd make it personal (he doesn't like me!) instead of screenshotting or telling what posts he did delete\ban you for.
>I just want the new BO to be fucking chill. Banning someone AND deleting a bunch of post only because you don't like it was never acceptable. So good riddance to the fat kike.
But you have no guarantee that this will happen. For all you know, the next BO could be even worse, delete more threads and communicate even less.
Or he could actually be far more lax and leave rampant shitposting to ruin a lot of threads.
Why would you assume that something good will come out of this, considering the many, many ways this could actually end up being even worse?
>>16913238
It's quite the reach to call it a plan when it just seems like Mark wanted to force the hand of Ron\Jim, plus it's a bit retarded to think so low of Mark and yet assume he'd be smart enough to orchestrate something like this. It's more likely his lazy personality just conflicted with the amount of shit he was getting from the community with all the technical problems and this was the only way he had to force some changes.
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5e4cbb No.16913253
>>16913199
I do like that you are not naming names, though some may be willing to speak out willingly if it was brought up to them.
I mostly side with Mark over all this, but I don't like the leaking of conversations too much even though I understand he did so because otherwise he'd have no evidence for his claims.
It's unfortunate that it's come to this. I think the best thing would be to let Mark remain as BO here and just fire him from the newsplus crap. Just have him be a nobody BO like for any other board.
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d0b765 No.16913254
>>16913248
that's not fruit
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7dd320 No.16913256
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>16913242
this is about cuckchan and a few years old but it's pretty informative and may be relevant,
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dc12be No.16913257
Be back in a bit (2-3 hours?), need to run to the office and drop something off then buy icecream. /imouto/ is currently being migrated and should be back within the next few hours.
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2596e7 No.16913258
>>16913242
>>16913245
I think I heard about this. There was this discord cult of personality centered around a single guy spreading a "pink pill" meme trying to convert anons into joining the "harem", blackmailing them by threatening to show their embarrassing crossdressing to their families if they fell for the bait. They got exposed by one such robot-ranny blowing his brains out with a shotgun on fucking livestream. Reiko I think his name was?
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d0b765 No.16913260
>>16913253
>I think the best thing would be to let Mark remain as BO here
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7dd320 No.16913261
>>16913257
just ate some ice cream myself, have fun with yours
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1099b2 No.16913262
>>16913253
>I think the best thing would be to let Mark remain as BO here
Get the fuck out of here you faggot.
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ed870a No.16913263
>>16913209
>I think he was also the BO of /clang/.
Mech Pilot and I are different people, I have no plans to abandon /clang/.
I have been lurking this thread and waiting for more facts to make my judgement. I disagree with what the 8kun administration did and how Mr. Watkins views us, but I don't see fit to up and scrap everything. That said, Mark acted very poorly and the actions he took on his bunkers snuffed any chance of him forming a real community.
Mech Pilot left to setup a new board on animu. I believe it's likely he'll come back before /m/ goes to claims, but having a another board on a different website is a good idea regardless. It can act as a bunker if necessary.
If any of you care, come visit >>>/clang/. Most anons don't seem to be aware we've been back for months.
Respect the robot!
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a9af0e No.16913264
>>16913253
>I think the best thing would be to let Mark remain as BO here and just fire him from the newsplus crap
I'd prefer the other way around. Or just any way that doesn't involve Mark owning /v/.
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9aa2ef No.16913265
>>16913252
I just keep getting the feeling that Ron thinks the only reason why people are going against him and Jim is due to Mark's "grand plan" when Mark was practically the only one defending them for months here while everyone was visibly getting angrier and more frustrated at the state of the website, which obviously eventually rubbed on Mark to sperg out. Makes me question if Ron even lurks here.
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b4e32b No.16913267
>>16913254
it clearly is, see?
>>16913257
take care, fag
>>16913253
>I think the best thing would be to let Mark remain as BO here
did you unironically just say that? mark getting booted is the best thing that's happened to /v/ in YEARS. fellate a gun.
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7dd320 No.16913268
>>16913258
Reiko was the Morpheus of the pink pill
Shuaiby was the an hero who splattered his brains on his ceiling
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dc9f68 No.16913269
>>16913238
You don't get it, Anon. Mark NEEDS /v/, but /v/ don't need Mark. Mark was most likely trying to hold on his power Trip, because without /v/ Mark is just a fucking faggot. If he covered for Ron and co, it was because he wanted to stay in power.
>>16913252
You won't see complains because half the people in a thread gets banned for wrong thinking and their posts deleted, all of them, even after the ban if they manage to dodge it. It wasn't because there wasn't complains, you just couldn't complain at all, and there wasn't a single proof left of it either, Mark always made sure of it. He deleted any screenshot as well, and meta threads were outright ignored.
Let's say you are right and everyone was a shit poster. Let's take black pill, for example. Why, in the name of God, you had to delete not only black pill posts, but also all posts referencing it? Either by defending him or shitting on him. I'm a BO myself and I fucking know how to use BO tools. You don't have to nuke a single person entire post history to ban them. Whatever happened to shit as basic as red letters in the end of the post letting everyone know why that person was banned on top of the ban log? And in personal taste shit like the DmC2 thing, why delete only the side that clearly bothers you instead of both OR any at all?
Mark was a shit BO, and I hope he fucking dies.
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102ee7 No.16913272
>>16913263
Oh thank god, I thought we'd lose both boards.
>>16913267
The reason Mark got removed is still shitty, though.
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9aa2ef No.16913277
>>16913269
>You don't get it, Anon. Mark NEEDS /v/, but /v/ don't need Mark.
Not relevant at all. This is about Ron's attitude and how he is pretending to be more forthcoming while continuing to ignore and deflect the actions of his administration since 8kun started up when it's convenient. Notice how he did even deny any of Mark's accusations? Notice how weirdly he responded to the Jim streams? It's suspicious as fuck.
>Mark was most likely trying to hold on his power Trip, because without /v/ Mark is just a fucking faggot. If he covered for Ron and co, it was because he wanted to stay in power.
Then he would have continued to damage control for them for eternity and never made this thread. Your narrative makes no sense at all.
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86627a No.16913280
>>16913257
I don't buy that Mark was some how so powerful that he was preventing you from migrating all those boards but now that he gone you can start in rapid order.
And why did you, after saying that loli boards couldn't be migrated because of deplatforming, change your mind and say that it will be in 2 weeks?
Also does Jim know that some non loli specific boards allow loli posting? I know /co/ does. So does /rule34/ and fur. I think /hgg/ does and so does /a/. And of course /v/ does.
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b7169e No.16913282
>>16913265
You know, Mark's actually grand plan should have involved him intentionally shitting up /v/ as much as possible then slowly ramping up the shilling of a new, more promising alternative board that is secretly under his control. All he'd have to do is filter the other alt-chan domains out of oblivion while only putting a slight filter on his own. So while no one can learn about sites like the webring due to all the domains being censored to something completely unintelligible, he censors fatchan to flatchan or something similar. People flock to fatchan to escape him only to find themselves in a place where he isn't just the governor, he's the king.
He's not smart enough to do anything like this though, and his ego probably requires he be a constant presence, he wouldn't be able to pretend to be a normal BO for long enough to keep up the ruse.
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dc9f68 No.16913283
>>16913252
Also
>rampant shitposting to ruin a lot of threads
What constitutes as shit posting is very subjective. You know what is a thread full of shit posting? Gamergate's. Nobody cares, because on top of being something subjective, is fun to do from time to time, and if you don't like it or think it will derail a thread you are free to ignore it. But if what you want is heavy moderation, I think you'd feel at home in cuckchan.
Let the users decide what is and isn't shit posting, the only thing moderation should be used for is spam and actual illegal stuff like CP, otherwise your userbase will just be a huge circlejerk, and seeing how Mark's terrible moderation managed to form huge cry babies, I think it succeeded.
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b7169e No.16913287
>>16913263
Did you get contacted by Mark or 8kun administration? Ron says he contacted several BOs but I haven't seen any evidence for that. I'm more inclined to believe Ron than Mark on most issues but this one thing is bothering me.
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6cb9a1 No.16913289
>>16913260
>>16913262
He has a point. You faggots are believing someone with no sources or evidence, just "I talked with some dudes, trust me".
He could be telling the truth, but then again he could just be a shitposter having a laugh at your expense. Or just Ron with another IP to corroborate his own story for which he also has posted no evidence.
Why do you believe these claims so easily? Just because they put the kike in a negative light? Because that means you have no problem being told a lie as long as it's something you wanted to hear.
I'd rather have the owners of those boards to show up here and say what happened instead of believing either side automatically. /clang/ just did and it doesn't seem like he corroborates Ron's side at least.
>>16913265
Yes, just one spergy boy that got sick of taking shit in the name of some nebulous administration that barely talked back. Quite far from a "grand D&C plan" but closer to what you'd expect Mark to do under pressure.
>>16913269
>You won't see complains because half the people in a thread gets banned for wrong thinking and their posts deleted
But the page that tells you you were banned still has the original post and you could cap that to show afterwards, like it's often done when the complaint is valid.
>Let's say you are right and everyone was a shit poster. Let's take black pill, for example.
Let's not be that dramatic because there's no need for that. Fortunnaly the amount of actually serious shitposters never seemed to go above 20 or something, hardly "everyone".
It's just that one poster alone can fabricate an impressive amount of trash on his own and that's the problem.
>Why, in the name of God, you had to delete not only black pill posts, but also all posts referencing it?
To clear the thread of posts quoting now non-existent posts, mentioning a discussion that is not happening anymore.
People complained to Mark about deleting posts and leaving these stubs in the threads at first. When he deleted those as well, they complained about him deleting their posts. And now he doesn't delete them anymore, so I don't know what the fuck you're going on about. I've been in threads with shitposters lately and saw only their posts being deleted so you have to be at least a few months out of the loop here.
>Whatever happened to shit as basic as red letters in the end of the post letting everyone know why that person was banned on top of the ban log?
That's the only thing I could seriously complain about Mark, that the bans were never made public like that, and they should to set an example and keep transparency.
But since no other moderator seems to do it either, maybe it's a policy thing on /v/.
>And in personal taste shit like the DmC2 thing, why delete only the side that clearly bothers you instead of both OR any at all?
Because past a certain point, it stops being a side and it's just obnoxious shitposting. The DmC2 guy had it coming and deleting his shit was one of the few good things the kike did.
And since your solution to that seems to be "delete both side!", I'd like to know for how long the board you manage has had 0 PPH.
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86627a No.16913291
>>16913283
>Let the users decide what is and isn't shit posting, the only thing moderation should be used for is spam
Of course there's some danger in that because you can end up in a /tv/ type situation where the shitposters take over the asylum and there's nothing left but spam.
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dc9f68 No.16913292
>>16913277
I couldn't care less about Ron or Jim. Even back during fire tires, Mark was proven to be a shit BO, there's a reason why Mark as a Nintendron was a meme.
I don't believe there's a "grand plan" either, though, I'm not justifying Jim or his actions, but I think this is as good excuse as any to remove his incompetent fat ass from the position, and I couldn't be happier.
/v/ without Mark couldn't be any better.
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dc9f68 No.16913296
>>16913291
Literal spam should be removed, but you can't butcher an entire thread while doing so. I think this is a case by case deal, specially with something as subjective as shit posting. Black pill filling threads with nonsensical red text is spam. That faggot posting threads with Mark's asshole is spam. Someone talking bad about a game Mark likes is not shit posting, let alone spam.
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ed870a No.16913297
>>16913287
No, I wasn't contacted by either. The last message I got from Ron directly was via email months ago and the last message I've seen him send out globally was informing all BOs and vols about changes for the kind of content we need to delete.
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5a9dd8 No.16913300
>>16913156
>>16913183
>Mark is taking a break for a week
>he thinks that in a week’s time Ron will allow him to openly advertise whatever alternative he pulls put of his ass this time
Top fucking kek. It’s fucking over for him. He’s about to fade into obscurity just like Drybones and Josh.
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1cc749 No.16913302
I was mainly monitoring this and didn't check fatchan /v/ to see what went down, can someone fill me in on it? And don't skimp on the details.
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c102f5 No.16913306
Ron,
In the future, people just want clear communication. I understand that your father owns the site and he takes a loss maintaining it. I understand you probably spend more time than you'd like patching holes in a codebase held together by duct tape. I understand we're far from the easiest audience to cater to, and there is no pleasing us, and I'm sure that's aggravating.
But we have a stake in this community and want to see it thrive. One of the best parts about the site prior to you guys acquiring it was that Hotwheels was upfront about the difficulties and would let us know when funds were short, by how much, and if there were any important bugs that were being worked on. It was nice to know the direction of the site, know what was being worked on, and to be able to offer help and resources (or at least moral support) to get things on track.
What I'm trying to say is, let us help you guys. But we need to know what the goal is and what the problems are. We don't know where the site is headed. Most of us just want it back to how things were before the shutdown. We're all on the same team, and all the secrecy, or worse, indecision… it just turns away people who would otherwise be happy here.
Oh, and could you please work out a system form bringing back unclaimed boards? Especially top ones? The BO of /tech/ just disappeared and /g/ is a shithole. If the old BO doesn't want it back, let someone else claim it. We need the ability to resurrect lost boards, or at least to claim the name and start fresh with board creation.
Thanks, and I hope you and your father had an enjoyable Easter.
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d38f34 No.16913307
>>16913283
Gamergate thread is a combination of a containment thread for shitposting and a home for a certain type of anon that I don't know what to call. It's like how the /agdg/ thread is a home for amateur devs and nodevs interested in amateur development. Or the learn-to-japan thread and anons who hate bad translations. Like little microcosm boards-in-a-thread, you read these threads and the folks posting in them sound like they're an entire board's worth of anons separate from the rest of the board. I don't say it's problematic, but it's a strange feeling to have, like the whole board's just a home for misfit anons loosely held together by the common thread of "video games," or rather a little town with independent families in houses who only occasionally go to see the folks in the other houses. But that's bullshit because of anonymity, and nothing stops an anon from posting in gamergate and then /agdg/ and then in whatever other thread, so I suppose I'm just full of shit.
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5e4cbb No.16913308
>>16913252
I've only ever been banned once by mark when I shittalked DmC2, but he admitted he thought I was some ip hopping fag and apologized.
>>16913280
>mark's spergout will cause the site to develop quicker
>>16913283
>all moderation is bad
/intl/? It sounds like you want a random board.
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b7169e No.16913309
>>16913269
> I'm a BO myself
Did Mark try to contact you? Did Ron contact you? I explained this in another post but the one dubious thing Ron has said is that Mark was trying to contact other BOs for some kind of insurrection. So far it looks like there are two BOs in the thread that weren't contacted. Like I said, I am inclined to believe Ron over Mark, but this is the one thing I've read that seems weird to me.
>>16913302
literally only thing I saw on it was an op that had some kind of erotic shota/trap op image, though that might have been prolikewoah and not fatchan.
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6cb9a1 No.16913310
>>16913280
Notice that the boards being migrated are mostly related to loli stuff. This is appeasement to keep the userbase, not a change in policies.
I don't buy it, Ron didn't denied or explain to Mark in his convo whatever problem it was that prevented Mark from getting emails about that shit, there's something fishy here.
>>16913283
I'm a user of the board, am I not allowed to decide what's shitposting? If I can't, why can you? If the users should be the ones responsible for deciding what's shitposting, let's get /intl/, /tv/ and even /b/ BOs to moderate /v/ since it seems to work so well for them, uh?
Or maybe you can stop being obtuse on purpose and understand what the fuck is being said in context. It's one thing to play around in a thread that isn't that serious to begin with, it's another to enter a thread dedicated to a specific game and start talking about politics in it, for instance.
You know exactly what I'm talking about, you're just happy at the idea that the next moderator won't delete your shit like Mark did because you just want to make /v/ an extension of /pol/ or enforce your own personal taste on the userbase by shitposting every thread about games\genres you don't like.
Good luck keeping an userbase going like that. As if we don't have enough examples of where that shit leads to.
>>16913292
>I don't care that we don't have a better alternative, I want the current one out!
Spoken like a true anarchist.
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a9af0e No.16913311
>>16913307
The word you're looking for is shotacon.
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d0b765 No.16913313
>>16913310
>This is appeasement to keep the userbase
Good, let them appease us for once. As long as lolis are allowed then it all works out in the end.
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2596e7 No.16913315
>>16913302
According to what I've read in the Gamergate thread, Mark was talked into taking a break from this shitstorm for a week for his own emotional good given the amount of fuck ups he's done, which he decided involved deleting his bunker.
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c102f5 No.16913316
>>16913307
That's fine and arguably a plus. Cuckchan went to shit when all the threads stopped being unique and instead each of them felt like a bunch of shitposters doing an impression of what they thought posters on a board should be like. Instead, we get variety and it's organized by topic.
>>16913300
What ever happened to Drybones? Did he sperg? I helped him and Moltar out with some stuff during the early GamerGate days but he just sorta disappeared. Was there an incident I missed?
Unfortunately, I wouldn't call Josh obscure. He managed to land himself on top of KiwiFarms somehow. I'm shocked it's still running; probably because he hasn't tried to rewrite the site from scratch yet.
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86627a No.16913321
>>16913313
>As long as lolis are allowed then it all works out in the end.
But for how long will that be? Is Ron pulling the wool over our eyes or is he pulling the wool over Jim's eyes?
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a03824 No.16913322
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c9cfff No.16913324
>>16913316
>Unfortunately, I wouldn't call Josh obscure. He managed to land himself on top of KiwiFarms somehow. I'm shocked it's still running; probably because he hasn't tried to rewrite the site from scratch yet.
Kiwi Farms was founded by Josh. 16ch.nl exists and there's a planned rebrand + launch on the 20th.
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6cb9a1 No.16913329
>>16913307
Those are basically threads for sub-communities that aren't large enough to warrant an entire board.
/agdg/ has it's own board and one look at it makes you browse the thread instead, for instance.
They also exist in that state because their posters are also engaged in the board as a whole. You don't go to the GG thread or the agdg thread unless you like videogames, so you'll browse a few other threads because of that as well and it makes sense that they'd all be in the same catalog.
You can kinda see it as a form of nationality, where you still have different kinds of occupations and hobbies for everyone, but at the end they all belong to the same place and can talk the same language.
The thing is, those threads are exceptions in themselves since they have their own context. What's considered shitposting there for instance isn't valid for the rest of the board.
Benis posting in GG is just filled to bump the thread, not a problem. agdg doesn't even have shitposting (unless you count the Asuka dev)
But for every other thread that's essentially just a temporary communal gathering, the concepts and rules surrounding them are mostly similar, Bannerlord being discussed in mostly the same way you'd discuss Stalker, for instance. In those cases, shitposting should be a clear cut case: someone is talking about irrelevant topics or started a shit flinging discussion that isn't even related to the thread's topic. Or is just spamming the same image posts for months now. Or just keeps telling everyone not to post the thread because he thinks it's a bad thing.
Those should be obvious but won't be accepted by the few control freaks that think they get to decide what should and should not be allowed while they turn around and complain about heavy moderation deleting their posts, ironically enough.
>>16913313
>Good, let them appease us for once. As long as lolis are allowed then it all works out in the end.
Hey, I ain't complaining. I just want /cute/ back though.
But like >>16913321 says, I fear they may remove those boards in the future by claiming "deplatforming problems" again once they feel like they don't need to appease us anymore.
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c9cfff No.16913330
>>16913321
It'll probably be banned again once Jim reads the text of 18 U.S. Code § 1466A and realizes Fredrick will be filing a complaint with state and federal attorney generals about his involvement in distributing simulated child pornography.
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86627a No.16913333
>>16913330
Is Fred actually doing that?
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c9cfff No.16913335
>>16913330
>about his involvement in distributing simulated child pornography.
to add: especially as he's acknowledged that lolicon is "child pornography" and "illegal". It's demonstrable he finds no artistic value in the content but he continues to distribute it in spite of that understanding.
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c9cfff No.16913337
>>16913333
Sure, why wouldn't he?
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1cc749 No.16913338
>>16913333 (checked)
cripplekike has been actively doing whatever he can to undermine 8chan for a while now.
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a03824 No.16913340
>>16913283
>You know what is a thread full of shit posting? Gamergate
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2596e7 No.16913343
>>16913330
Wasnt cripple deported out of the states or was I thinking of the philistines?
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c102f5 No.16913344
>>16913324
I don't recall him founding it. Or at least, I was pretty sure someone else ran the CWC wiki + forums back in the day. I was under the impression he grabbed control after someone else ditched it.
I'm shocked he's still developing Infinity Next. I'm skeptical it could ever handle large amounts of traffic. I do sometimes miss egging him on, though.
>>16913330
Fact is that all precedent (and the laws explicitly) says that drawings are 100% legal in the United States. 3D CGI that looks realistic is banned, though. Canada bans the drawings, but this site isn't subject to Canadian law.
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c9cfff No.16913348
>>16913343
Jim filed a complaint against him in the Philippines. He's currently in California.
>>16913344
The laws do not explicitly state that drawings are legal, it states the opposite. A lack of enforcement does not mean the law doesn't exist. All it takes is one federal attorney to bring charges. If it's brought to their attention they will, especially considering Jim has said on camera, in a way that is completely undeniable, that he considers this material illegal child pornography.
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86627a No.16913350
>>16913335
Jim probably doesn't even know that there's any loli on the site. He probably thinks that if the loli boards haven't been reestablished then then it's not being posted on any of the other boards. Jim doesn't post here or lurk here. He's completely disconnected from the goings on on the site. He didn't even know about the AMA with THQNordic and the shitstorm surrounding it. He's too busy playing king of the boomers.
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5a9dd8 No.16913351
>>16913316
I just meant obscure as far as the site is concerned.
>what ever happened to Drybones
It’s a bit hard to recall all the details because I mostly ignored it, but it was something with his group and Acidman’s (at least I think it was Acidman) group having a shitflinging fest which resulted in the death of GamerGoy. I know there are archives out there somewhere, I’m sure some anon has it. Last I heard from Drybones was during the InfinityNext debacle when some fellow group members of his Sapphire dev team, OdiliTime and Balrog, started Endchan. When anons saw Drybones in the InfinityNow irc they flipped and avoided Endchan like the plague.
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a03824 No.16913354
>>16913310
>you just want to make /v/ an extension of /pol/
It's been argued that 8chan itself was basically /pol/ 2.0, despite all the different boards. However, the problem is that you had a lot of boards that lost the key element that made /pol/ successful in the first place: funposting.
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7dd320 No.16913356
The constant posting about lolis bothers me just because
>loli hasn't been censored on this site
>the real easy freedom of speech benchmark is whether you can say nigger on site, which has already been cleared on 8kun countless times
Just a lot of kvetching over nothing really.
>>16913333
1 hour ago on his twitter:
>It really is incredible, isn't it? The Q boomers claim everyone they hate is a pedophile. They claim Podesta is one because of the man's weird taste in art!
>Meanwhile, Ronald Watkins, who they idolize, is determined to make sure worse pedophilic art can be posted on 8kun.
>>16913329
<You don't go to the GG thread unless you like circlejerks*
>>16913344
>3D CGI that looks realistic is banned, though
and keep in mind that the realism benchmark isn't "that's some good cg, very lifelike," it's "that is nearly indistinguishable from an actual child"
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d0b765 No.16913357
>>16913348
>we're doing this shit again
Loli is legal in the US, the 1st amendment and supreme court made this clear. Now fuck off.
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411be1 No.16913358
Looks like a janitor unstickied this thread. I really hope we get more info from Ron or some other BOs before it hits the bottom.
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d0b765 No.16913359
>>16913356
>The constant posting about lolis bothers me
It's just typical goon D&C. They do this shit all the time.
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dc9f68 No.16913361
>>16913289
>But the page that tells you you were banned still has the original post and you could cap that to show afterwards, like it's often done when the complaint is valid
To what end? To have Mark ignore it? To have Mark ban more people for the same invalid reason?
>It's just that one poster alone can fabricate an impressive amount of trash on his own and that's the problem
And your big solution is to censor anyone that produces what you deem as trash. I think cuckchan was looking for janitors, you should give it a try, seems to fit you.
>To clear the thread of posts quoting now non-existent posts
Which crippled actual discussion being done because posts quoting a shitposter could have had legitimate discussion. But hey, what about NOT DELETING ANY FUCKING POST AT ALL. Want to ban someone? Cool, put big red letters in the post and let the thread keep happening, 350 is the fucking post limit before bump anyway, but stop crippling threads, because that affects everyone.
>And since your solution to that seems to be "delete both side!"
My solution is delete neither, faggot, because deeming something obnoxious is very VERY subjective unless it's actual spam. Mark only deleted things because he disagreed with it, period. But there you go saying he deleted all to "clear the thread" while sometimes only deleting one side. You are as full of shit as he is, or maybe you are him. Fuck off, Mark.
>>16913308
>all moderation is bad
Forcing people to stay in topic is retarded when topics can sway and end quickly. You can start talking about Stronghold, but the game can evolve to talk about RTS and something entirely different, not even video games, and there's no reason to force people to stay in that topic.
It's the sole reason why /a/ was shit while /animu/ became the best anime board, /a/ retarded rules killed it.
>>16913309
It's not a big board, anon, I just pointed out I was a BO to point out how administration tools work. There are plenty, but Mark used EXCLUSIVELY the one that banned you on top of nuking all your posts, because he couldn't be bothered with actually moderate in a competent level when all you had to do was to obliterate a whole thread.
>>16913310
>I'm a user of the board, am I not allowed to decide what's shitposting?
Yes, and as so YOU as the user are the one that should take actions FOR YOURSELF. The hide posts +ID option exists, in fact, it was a fucking huge deal back in 2015. Don't want a shitposter? Fucking block his ID, problem fucking solved. But you just want big brother watching you and validating your opinion, anon. I don't need anyone to validate my opinion, what I ask is for my opinion to stay, relevant or not, specially if it's removed only because it hurt your fee fees.
>T-then let's get /intl/!
Nice spacegoat.
>It's one thing to play around in a thread that isn't that serious to begin with, it's another to enter a thread dedicated to a specific game and start talking about politics in it, for instance
So only because you are bothered with politics means it's shitposting and it should be banned? What if you just hide the post of that specific ID? Nah, you opt for censorship, the biggest reason the exodus happened in the first place. We are not even talking about politics, this is something that happens when you talked bad about a game Mark liked. Pic related. You couldn't even said DmC2 under any context because you were banned. Tell me how that is good moderation.
And look at the bright side, I can post this pic now without it being deleted, despite being relevant to Mark bias.
>>16913307
I agree with you, anon. I mean, everyone knows gamergate is just a fucking reddit zombie at this point. But they work. That's the point.
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c9cfff No.16913362
>>16913357
Cite case law. All appeals made to 18 U.S. Code § 1466A have been rejected by the USSC and the US Federal Court of Appeals.
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2596e7 No.16913367
>>16913358
It's also not cyclical anymore.
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9aa2ef No.16913370
>>16913280
>>16913282
>>16913289
Exactly, it makes no sense and we don't know much more about how any of this shit went down And Ron refuses to post hard evidence.
>>16913356
<loli hasn't been censored on this site
>certain boards (((conveniently))) not being transferred over due to (((convenient))) reasons is not censorship
Not even a lolifag but don't be retarded. It's very clear why /pol/ and /b/ boards weren't transferred immediately, and why they didn't just do the obvious thing and transfer all the boards over, the brand changing, etc.
<the real easy freedom of speech benchmark is whether you can say nigger on site, which has already been cleared on 8kun countless times
Guess that means cuckchan is freedom of speech then.
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a9af0e No.16913373
>>16913370
8kun has other boards?
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3fcd83 No.16913377
>>16913370
>Guess that means cuckchan is freedom of speech then.
Same with reddit, you can say nigger on some subreddits without being banned I'm sure.
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9aa2ef No.16913379
Speaking of /pol/, remember when Ron's first reason why it wasn't transferred was because he said the "board owner" didn't ask for it to be transferred yet? Even though it has been a global for years? Why do people keep ignoring these strange oddities?
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ff463a No.16913380
>>16913362
That law requires the drawing in question to be obscene. It has to pass something called the Miller test. One of the prongs of the Miller test states that for something to be considered obscene
>the work, taken as a whole, must lack serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value.
Obviously, this is very hard to put in objective terms since it’s inherently subjective. It’s bullshit, and most judges know it and throw it out. Against a jury though it’s another issue. Furthermore, only one person has actually been convicted for having loli art and he plead guilty. His art was also in a physical form and was imported into the country. Nobody in the US has ever been convicted for possesion or distribution of digital loli art that did not also possess real cp on their computer. Theoretically it could happen due to the vague nature of obscenity laws, but at the very least right now it is unlikely
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b326e3 No.16913381
>>16913307
>Gamergate thread is a combination of a containment thread for shitposting
That and the place to go when industry journalist start acting up again and things need to be organized. If nothing is happening then it tends to be concerned with things that are only tangentially related like comics or anime or japan.
>>16913324
I think Josh is legit madman and enjoy his ramblings of a podcast where he pretends he is better than the crazy people he gets mad about online while hiding in shithole countries and trying to make friends with ecelebs.
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2596e7 No.16913386
>>16913379
On that part, I just assumed he meant neither the original guy pre-kampfy reached out.
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dc9f68 No.16913388
>>16913362
United States v. Handley
The only reason Handley was convicted was for a bargain plea for having a fucking shit lawyer.
No prosecutor will prosecute you only for possession of lolicon. It's usually only an aggravation on real CP. In the case of Harvey, he was caught for importing lolicon doujins into the US.
It's fucking retarded and I'm tired of retards spreading misinformation about lolicon.
NO ONE WAS EVER CONVICTED FOR HAVING LOLICON ALONE
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3fcd83 No.16913393
>>16913379
Because muh mark
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dc9f68 No.16913394
>>16913370
>>16913377
I got banned from cuckchan some months ago for saying nigger, when 8chan was down.
So no, it is not freedom of speech. You can say it many times, sure, but you can get banned easily for it.
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c9cfff No.16913396
>>16913388
So what you're saying is…
>Yes, it is illegal
<Just don't worry about it.
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a03824 No.16913397
>>16913380
>Furthermore, only one person has actually been convicted for having loli art and he plead guilty. His art was also in a physical form and was imported into the country.
You're forgetting that the idiot was also tried in a military court, which plays by different rules.
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7dd320 No.16913407
>>16913370
I thought about addressing your post in more detail but decided it's not worth it. If you can't understand why it might not be a good idea to bring back the names (and in 2 of the 3 cases just the names) of 3 boards that got the most scrutiny for existing right after the (((media))) (which in this country is effectively a 4th branch of the government without any of the checks and balances the other 3 face) launched a campaign to drive you out of existence you're too dense to be reasoned with.
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06b165 No.16913412
>>16913396
No, it is legal by US law, illegal but not enforced in some states, and only one idiot has ever been wrongfully incarcerated for it.
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22edb9 No.16913413
>>16913394
it wasnt that fucking coon redwood was it
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ff463a No.16913414
>>16913396
If you were taken to court for slander and plead guilty even though your statements were truthful would that mean anyone who is taken to court for saying mean words is guilty? No, it would just mean you are retarded. If he didn’t plead guilty he likely would have gotten off because loli cannot pass the Miller test under almost all circumstances. If you don’t believe me go talk to an actual lawyer and they’ll all tell you the same thing.
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c9cfff No.16913416
>>16913412
18 U.S. Code § 1466A explicitly outlines that it is illegal and has been used in convictions.
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102ee7 No.16913418
>>16913379
>Why do people keep ignoring these strange oddities?
Because most people were happy /pol/ was removed and ignored whatever the official reason was.
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5e4cbb No.16913419
>>16913361
>talking about other games in a genre is shitposting
Even discussing real world tactics wouldn't be an issue in a stronghold thread, I've seen equivalent tangents happen before. Is it really that hard to limit yourself to video games or at least things tangentially related to video games on a video game board?
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dc9f68 No.16913425
>>16913396
No, that's not what I'm saying, retard. Just because you can get arrested for it doesn't mean it's illegal, it means that the person arresting you is retarded and you will get released.
>>16913412
And only for 6 months, thanks to having a shit lawyer.
>>16913416
No it wasn't, faggot. The case it was used for the conviction was, AGAIN because the the idiot plead guilty. The judge said so himself.
>>16913419
Why should I limit myself to anything as long as it isn't illegal? If you don't like it you can fucking hide my posts. Why should my freedom of speech stop where your feelings begin?
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f37519 No.16913426
>>16913416
Here's your CP bruh
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f37519 No.16913427
>>16913426
Shit, forgot the most important part.
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c9cfff No.16913428
>>16913425
>it doesn't mean it's illegal
No, but 18 U.S. Code § 1466A means it's illegal.
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dc9f68 No.16913430
>>16913428
Yes anon, those drawings sure constitute as real children.
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1c02d5 No.16913431
>>16913330
>>16913337
>>16913416
>Fred trying this hard to convince anons that his master plan to bring down 8kun once and for all will work
Constructing your own reality where laws say what you want them to say isn’t going to bring down the site. I know you’re in a rush since you caught the chinese virus and you’re about to die, but this isn’t doing anything but making you look retarded.
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d0b765 No.16913433
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1c02d5 No.16913435
>>16913426
>>16913427
MODS
Mark, get in he– oh wait…
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1099b2 No.16913436
Now that Mark is gone, does this mean even the mods will be removed too?
They're just as bad as Mark.
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22edb9 No.16913440
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98eb14 No.16913454
>>16912810
wojacks and pepes belong to Qoomers now, retard.
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a32f9e No.16913462
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1a7ace No.16913464
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9617ee No.16913467
>>16913257
Could you please migrate /bestemma/? I sent the emails back when all went down and then again in December, then once again after talking to you on twitter a while ago. Always with the shared secret. There's also other boards I'd like to have migrated but /bestemma/ was the biggest of them and a source of OC.
Thanks.
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dc12be No.16913468
Ok back. /imouto/ is done migrating. Had to take an extra long shower because a guy at the office looked very sick and he wasnt wearing a mask.
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86627a No.16913470
>>16913396
Lots of states have unenforced, outdated laws on their books. I know one state makes it illegal to curse in public. My state criminalizes women wearing makup on account of witch craft. A number of states still have sodomy laws on the books. Police and prosecutors don't enforce that shit because they know it would be thrown out of court.
People aren't going to jail just because the have the modern equivalent of Tijuana Bibles.
>>16913416
It was struck down by the Supreme Court.
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9617ee No.16913472
>>16913468
ugh dude, I hope it was nothing
what's wrong with people? I don't get not wearing masks.
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8963f8 No.16913474
For those who say Exodus, 8kun is dead, or similar….what to go then, besides cuckchan? Do we restore the Web/Board Ring? Or which image board to go then? Some say to just go to multiple imageboards, but then…Which ones are these? And do they get enough population?
But really, why didnt 8kun got the population that 8ch got? I expected that people returned sooner or later here. But somehow not even the webring got the population of 8ch for some weird reason. 8ch.net was not an small place at all. Where the fuck did the anons go?
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dc12be No.16913476
>>16913416
>18 U.S. Code § 1466A
First time im seeing that code. Reading about it now.
>>16913470
>It was struck down by the Supreme Court.
source?
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86627a No.16913480
>>16913436
>They're just as bad as Mark.
Mark wasn't removed because of his quality as a BO. He was removed because he wouldn't toe the line to the administration.
You need top understand something. Even if the guy that comes to replace him is 10 times worse than Mark was and turns this place into /tv/: /v/ edition, as long as he doesn't rebel against Ron or Jim then the new BO will be allowed to shit /v/ into the ground.
Reminder that no matter how awful Kampfy was on /pol/ he wasn't removed UNTIL he banned Ron.
Rebellion gets your board taken away. Making your board shit and making your users hate you doesn't.
Mark would continue to be BO if he'd kept sucking Jim and Ron's dick.
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c9cfff No.16913481
>>16913470
>It was struck down by the Supreme Court.
Cite the supreme court case. The law has never reached the USSC and is still in force. You can't just say that X was thrown out or X doesn't count anymore when you're as high profile as 8chan. You have to cite the actual case law proving your legal theory.
>>16913474
>why didnt 8kun got the population that 8ch got
Because the site had basically already died by the time 8kun happened. The domain change just finalized its death. It still runs like shit. I've been trying to make this post for 10 fucking minutes.
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41ff10 No.16913484
>>16913252
>I've seen more cases of shitposters going on a rampage and complaining when they're dealt with than genuine posters having their threads\posts being deleted.
No way this isn't mark himself trying to save his tattered reputation
That fat kike is a faggot and a liability and now that his week long coup plan blew up in his face he deserves nothing but a good lynching.
>it's a bit retarded to think so low of Mark and yet assume he'd be smart enough to orchestrate something like this
What the fuck is smart about this entire thing? It all blew up in his face and he was the one who gathered all the rope to hang himself.
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c9cfff No.16913485
The really amazing thing about 8kun's horrendous performance is that it doesn't have any users. There's no excuse for this shit. Just wipe it fucking clean and go to Lynxchan or fucking anything at this point. The fucking reboot of Next on 16ch.nl has about as many posters at 8chan at this point (none at all) and it works fine. How is a site with zero active posters so fucking slow all the time?
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264aaf No.16913487
>>16913379
I noticed that too
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41ff10 No.16913489
>>16913480
>Mark wasn't removed because of his quality as a BO. He was removed because he wouldn't toe the line to the administration.
You mean like kamfy?
>as long as he doesn't rebel against Ron or Jim then the new BO will be allowed to shit /v/ into the ground.
You mean the exact thing mark was doing?
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dc12be No.16913490
>>16913481
>The law has never reached the USSC and is still in force
Thats what I am seeing too, and might need to change some rules accordingly. Still doing research though.
Feel free to cite any supreme court case that strikes down this code because im not seeing any yet.
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a32f9e No.16913492
>>16913468
So /imouto/ can use some Vape-O-rub?
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c9cfff No.16913493
>>16913490
>Feel free to cite any supreme court case that strikes down this code because im not seeing any yet.
It was upheld as recently as 2018 iirc.
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1a7ace No.16913494
>>16913474
>But really, why didnt 8kun got the population that 8ch got?
Maybe because the site was down for several months?
Maybe because most people have no idea 8ch got renamed to 8kunt?
Maybe because the website is still a slow and broken mess?
Maybe because the lack of board creation and migration killed all the niche communities that stayed here?
Maybe because the administration prioritizes worthless features instead of making the site actually work the way it's supposed to?
Maybe because, instead of waiting for this shit to get fixed, people just stayed in the bunkers instead?
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86627a No.16913495
>>16913481
It was that law or another one. It was something vs Ashcroft and the broad section about "virtual child abuse" was struck down. That means that any overly broad section of any other law is also struck down automatically.
I know you're just concern trolling because if you thought loli was treated the same way as CP in the US then you would be too scared to post here.
>>16913489
Read my fucking post more carefully. You fags can't see farther than muh Mark.
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c9cfff No.16913499
>>16913495
>That means that any overly broad section of any other law is also struck down automatically.
Uh, no. That is not how it works.
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3164d4 No.16913502
>>16912723
just either go to julay/v/ or go ask for ownership of a /v/ on any of the bunkers, but for the love of God, just pick one, don't create a thousand boards
>>16913156
Literally go ask the anon.cafe guy to make comf/v/
>>16913474
>restore
It's more active than ever
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b80f0e No.16913504
>>16913490
The relevant case would be Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition.
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dc12be No.16913510
>>16913504
Yes, reading that now.
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86627a No.16913511
>>16913499
Maybe not literally "automatically" but it would basically be a dead law walking. Look at all the attempts that states have tried to get around Roe v. Wade. There's a new one that crops up and then is destroyed every couple of months and it's been that way for decades.
>>16913504
Yes that's the one. Thanks anon.
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c9cfff No.16913513
>>16913504
Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition was in 2002 and the PROTECT Act of 2003 was passed in 2003. The judgement related to publication of nudism photography with no sex acts or sexually suggestive material. It was just naked children in a nudist lifestyle.
18 U.S.C. § 1466A is in regards to simulated child pornography which most lolicon is. Unless you're advocating for a loli board which only allows 'tasteful nudity', this does not apply to the hardcore shit you want to jerk off to.
>>16913511
Will you be the one personally funding Ron Watkin's criminal defense attorney when he valiantly steps up to the Supreme Court to protect the sanctity of simulated child rape imagery?
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40f497 No.16913519
>>16913510
You can send the /imouto/ login to my email
msk.agk@gmail.com
there's one more board /homosuck/ needs to be brought back aswell
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86627a No.16913526
>>16913513
>Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition was in 2002 and the PROTECT Act of 2003 was passed in 2003.
Thenn why hasn't the government taken down 4chan, 8chan, nearly every other imageboard, Inkbunny, mastodon, blocked access to pixiv, and made Evangelion illegal?
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8963f8 No.16913529
>>16913502
>It's more active than ever
Sure about that? And im not talking about /v/ or /pol/, but other boards too. Remind me again where the most active bunker/Webring is, please?
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06b165 No.16913534
>>16913526
Especially considering we've openly been researched by the FBI multiple times, as well as likely every other lettersoup agency.
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c9cfff No.16913537
>>16913526
Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
… which was amended in 2018 to hold services liable for sex trafficking violations. Child pornography (and thus simulated child pornography) could be considered sex trafficking.
It hasn't really been enforced yet, sure, you're right. To get it enforced, you'd need a very high profile website that has universal derision and which no public outcry would protect. Like 8chan.
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86627a No.16913540
>>16913537
>It hasn't really been enforced yet, sure, you're right. To get it enforced, you'd need a very high profile website that has universal derision and which no public outcry would protect. Like 8chan.
If they were going to do that then they would have taken the opportunity last year in the after math of the Tarrant shooting or when they drug Jim in front of congress.
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c9cfff No.16913543
>>16913540
If Ron and Jim are willing to risk it, go for it. I wouldn't risk it just to keep a bunch of chomos around.
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86627a No.16913545
>>16913543
Retarded or concern trolling?
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c9cfff No.16913547
Just notice how your arguments went from
>No such law exists!!!!
to
>That law was thrown out!!!
to
>It's still on the books, but it can't be enforced!!
to
>Okay, so it can be enforced, but it never will be!
to
>Okay so it might be an actual, enforceable law, but it's Ron's ass and not mine, so please let me upload pictures of Roll from Megaman getting fucked to death.
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88169c No.16913549
>>16913543
Shut up already you nigger. No loli=no userbase
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a32f9e No.16913552
>>16913537
>simulated child pornography
This is what's known as "the big lie" here.
There is no such thing as "simulated child pornography" as the reason why production/distribution/possession of actual child porn is illegal, at all, is because child abuse was necessary to create it. If there is no child being abused in what you are (falsely) claiming is "simulated' child porn, there is no law being broken. Period.
It's either child abuse and illegal or not child abuse, and thus legal. Also, before you "muh tracing"; drawings/painting/statues are all "products of the imagination" which DO NOT document child abuse like photos or video do.
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c9cfff No.16913554
>>16913549
When Hotwheels screencaps this comment suggesting the entirety of 8chan's userbase is pedophiles, I hope he puts this post in, so when it ends up in a complaint to the attorney general, you will know c9cfff told you so and you will know he was right.
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88169c No.16913555
>>16913194
>>16913222
>>16913485
>>16913220
c9cfff is a shill. When his shilling didnt work out he started sperging out about loli to derail.
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86627a No.16913556
>>16913547
>>Okay so it might be an actual, enforceable law, but it's Ron's ass and not mine, so please let me upload pictures of Roll from Megaman getting fucked to death.
Nope stop putting words in my mouth Freddit got fingered.
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dc12be No.16913561
I am reviewing case law for 2d loli right now and it is so confusing. So I decided to email and consult with a lawyer to review our site policies regarding dost, cp, and 2d loli art. Depending on what the lawyer says we might need to revise some of the rules here.
The lawyer's website explicitly says 2d loli is legal in at least California, but I am going to ask about federal law and how that might apply to this site and whether there is anything else that we need to look out for. So lets see what the lawyer says.
https://www.robertmhelfend.com/criminal-defense/sex-crimes/child-pornography-laws-california/
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62e0a8 No.16913563
>>16913330
>18 U.S. Code § 1466A
U.S. federal law doesn't use that section to define child pornography. It uses the definition laid out in 18 U.S.C. § 2256.
>Visual depictions include photographs, videos, digital or computer generated images indistinguishable from an actual minor, and images created, adapted, or modified, but appear to depict an identifiable, actual minor.
1466A functions more as an obscenity law than anything else.
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d0b765 No.16913564
>>16913545
Either a goon or cuckwheels himself.
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d0b765 No.16913570
>>16913561
>we might need to revise some of the rules here
Just keep in mind that if you do that you are going to kill the site.
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86627a No.16913574
>>16913564
The funny thing is that Ferddy going down this route would also incriminate himself since he allowed loli and shota back when he was sit admin.
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a32f9e No.16913579
>>16913561
The only state that directly says loli is illegal is South Carolina, but that's because the law has never been tested in court, as due to highly selective prosecution (this is a 14th Amendment violation btw) which made sure they every person convicted of it was also found possessing CP as well (as it makes no sense to take a case all the way to the Supreme Court to knock 3 years off a lifetime sentence).
But this would only be an issue if you have servers located in South Carolina.
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98eb14 No.16913582
>>16913308
mark never stopped shitposters who hated other 8chan boards for stupid ni/gg/er related reasons.
the gg thread became a point of aggravation once malicious shitposters took the narrative of all all mods except mark being bad. most of it was projection, mark was a pussyfooting nigger faggot that would rather have the heat be on other mods instead on his ass, because it was easier for his kike brain to work without the added stress to clean the board up.
Now everyone is shitting on him, he is everything negative that the ni/gg/ers said other board mods were.
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62e0a8 No.16913583
>>16913561
>99% of cases involving loli primarily involved possession, distribution, or conspiracy to create actual CP
>The one case where someone got arrested over loli in Iowa resulted in 18 U.S.C. § 1466A being ruled unconstitutional and the defendant settling for a guilty plea where he was hit with an obscenity charge, not any child pornography charges
There's no precedence, state or federal, for what you're currently pussying out about. It always comes down to actual CP or obscenity, the latter being something you can apply to literally fucking anything.
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dc12be No.16913584
>>16913570
I dont think any rules will be changing, just want to run it past a couple lawyers to be 100% sure.
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dc12be No.16913587
Ill update you guys on what the lawyers say after they reply.
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2596e7 No.16913593
>>16913584
I don't want anymore Orwellian rule changes either. But it bears repeating, given all the thin ice respect-wise you and Jim are on with the anon userbase, that walking back on restoring boards like /loli/ and /delicious/ is going to be a legitimate crippling blow in the scenario that the (((lawyers))) don't say anything positive about lolicon content. Be prepared.
>>16913587
That would be appreciated.
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da4524 No.16913605
>>16912834
Maybe you should join Majestic 12.
In a body bag.
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a32f9e No.16913608
>>16913583
Yeah this. The only "argument" anti-loli fags have is to make up fake terms like "simulated child porn" because they don't actually have an argument. Loli IS US 1st-Amendment protected speech. State laws may differ, but those laws are almost universally overturned with ANY higher-court review (unless there's shenanigans like in SC).
>>16913584
Ron seriously, who is more likely to be lying to you right now: virtue-signaling anti-loli (and anti-free speech) fags who YOU KNOW are trying to scaremonger the userbase into fracturing further, or pro-loli (and thus pro-free-speech) fags who have been fighting this same goddammed fight, against the same godammed (alleged) "people" for years? Do you want to become a bigger cuck than m00t? He fell for the same fake "arguments".
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dc12be No.16913610
>>16913593
The website of the lawyer I linked says it is legal on a state level, just need to figure out the federal law and what things we need to look out for if any. I reached out to two different lawyers to hopefully get a consensus on the topic and have them review our site policies to make sure we have everything setup correctly. Should have an answer back soon and will let you guys know asap.
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98eb14 No.16913614
>>16913610
its probably stuff that has tracing, like that shit german vn /mark/ always shilled on this board or fucking rustle which is posted on cuckchan /b/ all the time.
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dc12be No.16913615
>>16913608
>Ron seriously, who is more likely to be lying to you right now
The topic is very complex and thats why I am going to get some professional opinions on it from actual lawyers just to make sure my understanding of the law is correct.
In the case that my understanding is not correct, then the lawyer will advise on the best way to fix or amend site policies.
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d0b765 No.16913616
>>16913608
>Ron seriously, who is more likely to be lying to you right now: virtue-signaling anti-loli (and anti-free speech) fags who YOU KNOW are trying to scaremonger the userbase into fracturing further, or pro-loli (and thus pro-free-speech) fags who have been fighting this same goddammed fight, against the same godammed (alleged) "people" for years?
The way he immediately gave credence to goon arguments makes me suspect that it's not actually a goon, but Ron or Jim themselves. A false flag to let them ban loli by saying "we had no choice".
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2596e7 No.16913618
>>16913614
I believe it's called Unteralterbasch or something.
>>16913610
Lines up with what the lawfags in this thread have said, I supposed. On an unrelated note, can you bring back the blue-white (((echo))) effect on text? I don't think you ever explained why that disappeared.
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da4524 No.16913620
>>16913257
What about /tech/? I overheard that the BO wants to step down because lack of time to moderate.
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06b165 No.16913626
>>16913614
>>16913618
Unteralterbach doesn't have tracings I think, it has "parody" drawings of real children. Pretty much the entire cast is based on German politicians and celebrities.
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000000 No.16913628
>>16913614
Rustle never traced, if you have proof, feel free to provide it. Are you sure you're not confusing Rustle if that other artist that traced some model shit? That artist's name was something Show.
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dc12be No.16913633
>>16913618
> On an unrelated note, can you bring back the blue-white (((echo))) effect on text?
I could make a text effect system where BOs could design their own text effects. Is that type of system something you guys would use?
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c9cfff No.16913636
>>16913616
The law is the law and Ron doesn't want to get anally raped for letting pedophiles ruin his site.
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a32f9e No.16913639
>>16913614
>traced
Not an augment.
Drawings are "products of the mind" which are like written stories, but are unlike photographs and video recordings, which document an event.
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a32f9e No.16913640
>>16913636
>the law is what I want it to be
I'm glad you're not the one who decides that.
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dc12be No.16913642
>>16913636
According to the 8kun global rule, we follow all american federal and applicable state laws. Someone in this thread brought up that my understanding of the laws and how they apply to 2d loli might be flawed, so I am hiring lawyers to double check our policies to make sure we are staying within any federal and applicable state laws. If my understanding of the law and application of it towards site moderation was incorrect according to two different lawyers in consensus, then I will need to update site policies accordingly. From what I have personally researched, I think my understanding is correct, and I just want to have some lawyers corroborate my understanding.
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80c32b No.16913643
>>16913616
AAAAAH THIS WAS ALL A SET UP TO BAN LOLI
>the op from mark was itself fake
>all evidence regarding regarding mark being scum was forged
>posts seriously inquiring into the future of the /loli/ board were all staged
>posts pretending to be goons arguing that loli is actually illegal on a federal level are all paid actors (paid in hotpockets at least, you know how it goes)
>all this to enable Ron to start inquiring into the legality of loli so he can say the lawyers advised against it and and ban it despite it being perfectly legal because his dad wants to make 8kun more hospitable for the qboomers because for aome reason he can't just say: yeah this is my site an we're not allowing that content anymorw because of the precedent that has been set
I can't believe it this is insane, Mark's master plan was never Mark's it was Jim! Mark might not have ever even been real!
Ron, you may have thought you won this game of noneuclidean holographic treadmill badminton but I've already seen the game tree through to its logical conclusion. You have no options left but to make me the new admin of 8kun
>>16913633
yeah
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c9cfff No.16913646
>>16913640
>I'm glad you're not the one who decides that.
Why? Are you that desperate to masturbate to children on this specific site? You can't go to pixiv, or all those other sites you so proudly boasted have cp on them a few posts back?
It has to be 8chan. You have to masturbate, you have to masturbate to children, and it has to be on 8chan.
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98eb14 No.16913648
>>16913646
Pixiv is not banned in the usa or its ISPS, and they have actually been able to interact with english payment processors and make commerce with the USA if you break US law then you cant make money with the USA.
You can call people chomos but it will ultimately make the word meaningless i suggest to lay off the virtuous pedophile articles from slate, and stop hanging around goons that project their tendencies to anime fags.
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c9cfff No.16913650
>>16913648
If you are attracted to children you are a pedophile. I don't understand how this is a hard concept.
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c9cfff No.16913651
Also, you didn't answer my question why it has to specifically be 8chan. Why do you have to masturbate to children on 8kup.top specifically and not use other sites like pixiv?
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655823 No.16913653
I live in a timeline where drawings of children can get you jailed.
thank god i don't live anywhere near the abomination that is america
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98eb14 No.16913655
>>16913650
But how can a drawing be a child? Its a picture, from japan, or a japanese style drawing. This shit would be thrown out of court because its wasting taxpayer money. They tried pushing the same shit in Australia but it failed.
If you had it your way then the five eyes coalition would of already arrested everyone including you.
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a32f9e No.16913656
>>16913646
Could you signal your virtue any harder? It's doubly-disgusting because you write like a mad tranny.
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c9cfff No.16913662
>>16913655
>But how can a drawing be a child?
The artist is drawing a child character with the intent to replicate child-like characteristics. He calls this art "lolicon", which means "pedophile" in Japanese. He then publishes this art and proudly declares it pedophile pornography.
You want to masturbate. Because you are a pedophile, you can only masturbate to pictures that feature children and characters who exhibit child-like characteristics. To find pornography to masturbate to, you use the Japanese word for "attracted to children" to find art people have drawn for the purpose of arousing pedophiles.
There you two meet. The pornographer who draws children being raped, and you, the pedophile, masturbating to it. You met using a common term, lolicon, meaning pedophile (which describing a person) or attraction to children (when describing the mental disorder). You ejaculate, and confide in yourself the confidence of knowing it wasn't a real child and didn't count as jerking off to children being raped.
You post on 8chan and talk to other pedophiles and share your child pornography together.
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22edb9 No.16913665
>>16913650
If i'm attracted to murder, does that make me a killer before, or after i actually off someone?
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c9cfff No.16913669
>>16913665
If you're sexually aroused by the idea of killing someone you're a sadist. There's probably a more specific word, but yes. Even before you hurt someone to arouse yourself, you are a sadist.
A rapist is someone who rapes. A murderer is someone who murders. You can be a non-offending pedophile ('virtuous pedophiles', as many lolicons call themselves).
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98eb14 No.16913670
>>16913662
it doesnt mean pedo retard, it means lolita complex, I cant believe your boomer tranny ass is trying to pull the same pillpul used against websites that already host porn on multiple english servers.
You lost your US code violations that were applicable to us military law, which is used to prevent international incidents while on base in another country.
You can call others pedo, but it doesnt mean a thing, people here have been called worse.
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a1da70 No.16913671
>>16913665
False equivalence.It certainly makes you a murderphile both before and after.
The charge here is pedophile, not rapist.
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a32f9e No.16913672
>>16913662
Lolicon doesn't mean pedophile in Japanese, you liar. The japs use "pedo" and "pedophile" like we do.
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98eb14 No.16913675
>>16913672
The tranny probably got his translations from funimation.
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c9cfff No.16913677
>>16913672
You are a pedophile.
You are a pedophile in denial.
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98eb14 No.16913680
>>16913677
loli is a slang word for lolita complex, its a genre terminology came from a book, shit was praised when it was released in the USA by the new york times.
I dont think you can inflict child abuse on a genre, no matter how many headgames you make with your headmates.
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a1da70 No.16913681
>>16913670
>muh laws
who cares lol, law is the bare minimum and often faulty
conversion therapy is what pedos need
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c9cfff No.16913684
>>16913680
>its a genre terminology came from a book
About a man attracted to a little girl.
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a1da70 No.16913685
>>16913680
>child abuse
once again, attacking an strawman
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06b165 No.16913687
>>16913677
I could swear you were complaining about people moving the goalposts from "it's not illegal" to "it's not prosecuted" etc. earlier.
Why are you now moving the goalposts from "it's totally illegal goy" to "you're an evil pedophile, goy"?
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c9cfff No.16913688
>>16913685
It's all he can do. I can understand the argument "8chan arbitrating what is and isn't illegal sets a dangerous precedent". That's fair.
Arguing that lolicons aren't literal pedophiles is ridiculous. If you masturbate to children you are a pedophile, end of. You are watching an actual, literal pedophile with hidden child lust writhe in denial about his affliction to justify it to himself. If he convinces any of us is irrelevant, it's about keeping the barrier up in his mind.
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c76c70 No.16913689
>>16913677
No child is harmed in the production of pure fiction. To make it illegal would mean the law is going after people for "thought crime". Are you up for banning any pure fiction taboo porn? Some taboos are fixtures, I'll grant that, others are looser than that. You'd be setting a precedent.
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98eb14 No.16913690
>>16913684
its a work praised by people in Q boomers age group.
>>16913685
Still a drawing, People can cum on pictures of peoples faces, on twitter all the time, and those are real people. Site doesn't face repercussions.
I know it makes you both feel uncomfortable, but there is alot of dark shit out there.
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da4524 No.16913691
>>16913684
It's also been turned into a film in 1962: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lolita_(1962_film)
Fun fact: in GTA V, there's a street in Sandy Shores that references it
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c9cfff No.16913693
>>16913687
Because I want to hear him admit it. Admit it to himself. He is a pedophile.
I don't care what happens with 8chan tbh. I don't post in this shit hole. It takes 15 fucking minutes to exchange 3 posts.
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06b165 No.16913694
>>16913671
>>16913681
>>16913685
>c9cfffag starts losing his argument
>suddenly a new ID comes in and starts parroting his opinions
How organic! And no, playing GTA doesn't make you a murderer nor a psychopath. You aren't shooting people for enjoyment. Just like people who jerk it to loli aren't jerking tit to children.
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000000 No.16913696
>>16913684
Wrong. It was about a man attracted to a teenager, she was 14 years old.
You can't even get your concern-trolling right. You lost your little FUD case, and it's hilarious how quickly your degenerating from your first posts to this emotionally charged bullshit from your last couple of posts. You've dropped your legal concerns and your typing nothing but
>pedophile
>pedophile
>pedophile
>child abuse
>rape
>pedophile
>pedophile
Seriously your butthurt in increasing with each new post of yours.
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c9cfff No.16913697
>>16913690
>>16913689
>>16913696
You are fully aware no one is arguing that lolicon hurts children.
We are arguing that you are pedophiles in denial.
Stop being in denial. Work on yourself. You are attracted to chidlren and you are a pedophile.
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c9cfff No.16913698
>>16913694
>And no, playing GTA doesn't make you a murderer nor a psychopath
If you are sexually aroused while watching the scene where Trevor tortures someone for information, for instance, you are probably a sadist and a psychopath.
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98eb14 No.16913700
>>16913697
keep telling yourself that, your age group and your political leanings have tons of skeletons in their closet,
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98eb14 No.16913702
>>16913698
But its not real. if it was real content then he would be a fucking psycho.
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f83963 No.16913703
>>16913300
>He’s about to fade into obscurity just like Drybones and Josh.
Josh is actually working on Infinity Never again.
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000000 No.16913704
>>16913693
'>I don't care what happens with 8chan tbh. I don't post in this shit hole. It takes 15 fucking minutes to exchange 3 posts
>spending 7 hours sperging about loli and concern trolling is "not caring"
Oh my god, this is hilarious. You're conpletely invested in this, but you're embarrassingly pretending your not. You're a kiwiw trannyfarms poster aren't you? You are aren't you.
>>16913324
<Kiwi Farms was founded by Josh. 16ch.nl exists and there's a planned rebrand + launch on the 20th
>shilling josh's incompetent failure in waiting shitcode
>>16913194
<He's probably moving to whatever 16ch.nl will be called once it rebrands next week.
>immeidately shilling josh's trannyhole in your very first posts
It is a trannyfarms poster. Are you going to spend 8 hours in this thread? Maybe even longer to show everyone how you totally "don't care". No ones is going to fall for this weak kiwitranny shilling.
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c9cfff No.16913706
>>16913702
If you masturbate to simulations of torture you'res still a psycho dude.
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e9f9ca No.16913707
>>16913704
You know, I think Josh will allow loli boards on his platform
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98eb14 No.16913708
>>16913704
virtue signalling, chasing retards and cowtists forces degenerates like him to undergo a mental lockdown, anything fiction because real to them in their mind, because they are in the rush to condemn others for things that aren't real. trannies especially those on kiwifarms are always mad because they don't have the courage to attack the people that sexually abused them so they go for fake lala land shit and attack enemies of the state.
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f83963 No.16913710
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f83963 No.16913714
>>16913425
>AGAIN because the the idiot plead guilty.
So he was convicted?
>>16913489
Yes, that's exactly what he means. Read his fucking post.
>>16913490
There's no supreme court case that strikes down the law that says it's illegal to sleep in a fridge in certain states. Unenforced laws are bascially moot.
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000000 No.16913715
>>16913707
<his platform
lmao. Josh can't code for shit. He's an embarrassing failure, always had been. He's created nothing and always leeches off of something else. Infinity Next was a disaster. Unlike what the trannyfarms shill would like you to believe, he didn't found kiwifarms community either. He merely took over the existing CWC wiki and forums when the previous people quit. So no creation there either. He didn't create kiwifarm's site either. He just copied someone else's forum template. Every time he's tried messing with the site's technical side, he nearly fucks up every time, because he's a failure. Remember the data leak kiwifarms had?
I'm betting my left nut that Infinity Next 2.0 piggy backing of the the work of someone else, but being attached to Josh means it's still going to end up an embarrassing failure.
>>16913708
He was doing a good job at concern trolling at first, but look at this shit
>There you two meet. The pornographer who draws children being raped, and you, the pedophile, masturbating to it. You met using a common term, lolicon, meaning pedophile (which describing a person) or attraction to children (when describing the mental disorder). You ejaculate, and confide in yourself the confidence of knowing it wasn't a real child and didn't count as jerking off to children being raped
>You are watching an actual, literal pedophile with hidden child lust writhe in denial about his affliction to justify it to himself. If he convinces any of us is irrelevant, it's about keeping the barrier up in his mind.
Who the fuck writes like this? What's this detailed and flowery language he's using? This fucking shit comes of like someone's fantasy and projection.
If you ever checked out the archives of the trannyfarms threads during the ATF/exhentai debable you'd see the same kiwiniggers typing out these oddly specific and weirdly drawn out insults and triads.
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c9cfff No.16913716
>>16913708
>if you don't like pedophiles you're an impotent victim of child abuse
ok.
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f83963 No.16913717
>>16913537
>Child pornography (and thus simulated child pornography) could be considered sex trafficking.
I don't that's how sex trafficking works. Otherwise all fictional pornography is sex trafficking, or at least, all fictional pornography of illegal sex acts like rape.
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98eb14 No.16913718
>>16913715
Its practically rehersed it follows the same structure of a low tier low IQ forum poster that uses tard language and reasoning to catch people they harrass with AHA language, its fucking retarded. No real ass human talks like this other than some chemically induced eunuch on 7 anti depressives.
Kiwitroons keep forgetting that this only works if you have the name and face of the poster.
The funny thing is that kiwifarms endlessly ==molests== autists and abject failures in order to not feel bad about their own sad molested lives.
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98eb14 No.16913719
>>16913716
you deserved your rape, retard.
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c9cfff No.16913722
>>16913715
>a literal torpedo
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f83963 No.16913724
>>16913639
Still illegal, faggo.
>>16913614
Fucher/UnterAlterBach isn't traced though. It's clearly parody. Can't be sure about Rustle, but there is no proof and regardless of the quality of his art, it doesn't look realistic enough for that to be said with any amount of certainty.
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f83963 No.16913727
>>16913583
>>The one case where someone got arrested over loli in Iowa resulted in 18 U.S.C. § 1466A being ruled unconstitutional and the defendant settling for a guilty plea where he was hit with an obscenity charge, not any child pornography charges
You got a link?
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000000 No.16913733
>>16913722
I like how you ignored my two posts and question by using a fallacy to distract from the posts and make it about how I connect to the internet connection instead. Real smooth there. Are you a trannyfarms poster or not?
It's been nearly 8+ hours in this thread! That's a whole shift there. Are they paying to shill Josh's trannycode and spread FUD, or are you doing this 4FREE?
>>16913718
Remember that he's also spent 8+ hours in this thread shilling for kiwitrannychan and throwing this little tantrum. How can you make fun is this Glorious Comrade's dedication?
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c9cfff No.16913734
>>16913727
no, he doesn't have a link, because he's full of shit.
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98eb14 No.16913736
>>16913734
your cohorts got a 13 year old boy to have cybersex with chris chan,
that is your websites, your favorite comrades in arms greatest fucking legacy.
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c9cfff No.16913738
>>16913736
You actively masturbate to children every day.
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f83963 No.16913739
>>16913608
>but those laws are almost universally overturned with ANY higher-court review (unless there's shenanigans like in SC).
<But those laws are overturned unless they're not
Not exactly a confidence building statement.
>>16913618
>can you bring back the blue-white (((echo))) effect on text? I don't think you ever explained why that disappeared.
It was implicitly a part of the site rebranding. Just like how "faggottext" was changed to "pinktext" on the FAQ. Besides, that effect was always shit. It ruined any post that used more than three echoes like (((((((so))))))). It fact, it ruined it so much, people stopped ever using more than (((three))).
>>16913670
>it doesnt mean pedo retard, it means lolita complex
Nigger, you are digging your own grave.
>https://dictionary.apa.org/lolita-complex
>see nympholepsy.
>https://dictionary.apa.org/nympholepsy
>a type of pedophilia in which the individual has a strong preference or obsessive desire for young girls who are sexually precocious (nymphets: a word coined by Vladimir Nabokov in his 1955 novel Lolita). Also called Lolita complex.
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98eb14 No.16913743
>>16913739
still praised by Jim's age group, allowed in america. Praised by liberal elites like new york times.
It doesnt care about your rhetoric. its slang for that word, a fictional story.
If you cant tell reality from fiction, then you should stop visiting kiwifarms, they got a 13 year old boy to have "cyber sex" with chris chan. It was on the Farms entry on chris chan too!
It was a real thing compared to lolita the fiction book.
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a9af0e No.16913746
Stop sperging out every time pedophilia gets mentioned you retards. Go soothe your cognitive dissonance some other way.
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895dcb No.16913748
It's funny how every time site/board drama happens the anti-loli niggers come out of the woodwork to concern troll. Almost like you want to take freedom away and remove any reason for people to stay on this site.
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98eb14 No.16913749
>>16913738
you openly look up details of children getting molested, and then gaslight molestation victims on kiwifarms.
Like i said before, you deserve your rape.
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c9cfff No.16913755
>>16913743
>still praised by Jim's age group, allowed in america. Praised by liberal elites like new york times.
who gives a fuck you stupid chomo lmfao
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f83963 No.16913758
>>16913665
As someone in favor of loli not being pedo, I am sick and tired of pro-loli anons making this terrible fucking argument. You can do better.
>>16913688
>If you masturbate to children you are a pedophile
What if I don't ever masturbate when viewing loli? :^)
>>16913743
Anon, you should check the IDs, I'm not c9cfff. I'm pointing out, that if you say it's slang for lolita complex, you yourself are calling it pedophilia. I don't think it is pedophilia, because they're fucking cartoons that barely resemble children in anything but proportions, and often not even then. Maybe it's pedophilia if it looks realistic enough, but that's exceedingly rare, and not what people are referring to when they talk about loli.
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c9cfff No.16913766
>>16913748
>freedom
child porn
>>16913749
what the fuck are you talking about retard
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e9f9ca No.16913767
>>16913748
They just love to stay on sites that allow them and ruin it for everyone. It's tiring honestly.
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98eb14 No.16913774
>>16913758
eh its just japshit, and art irregularities, the troon himself is mentally deranged after seeing so much shit on cows. He cant even get the origin of all this shit correctly.
Hopefully it kills itself before it can molest a child.
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3164d4 No.16913776
>>16913529
Depends on the hour of the day and if something good is coming up.
It switches between /k/ during happenings, /v/ during tournaments, /cow/ during spergouts and to regional boards when they're awake. /a/ is by far the biggest board with a ton of users making daily posts.
Of fucking course it's not like 8kun/v/ for the simple reason that 8kun/v/ is the only active board on 8kun with a sizable population, so everyone just comes for /v/, but anywhere else it's pretty much a step up from what you see here.
Also they allow loli boards.
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da4524 No.16913778
Can we just talk about how shit the staff of 8kun is instead of bickering about semantics?
>there are still high profile boards missing
>Ron and Jim are unusually secretive about the future of 8kun
>they basically removed Mark because of a shit fit he had against Ron
I just want to shitpost on /tech/, surely it can't be that fucking hard to restore a board related to a mundane subject as technology?
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39d5e6 No.16913785
>>16913778
If you want /tech/ to come back you have to claim it as a new BO because it doesn't have one.
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13e09e No.16913792
>>16913642
Since this thread was cyclical and my posts and possible replies have fallen off the thread, I'll ask again:
- Will you be more consistent in your communication with us from now on, and what form will that take if so? Will you create /sudo/ again or will you make meta threads on /v/?
- How long will the site continue to be slow like this and how many people are actually working on making 8kun's software work? Do you think you have enough people to work on it?
- What do you think the future of this site will look like in your most sober opinion?
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424ff2 No.16913798
So the /loli/ board is never coming back?
So much for being that "bastion of freedom," huh?
Guess I'm done with 8kun.
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a1da70 No.16913814
>>16913694
>implying c9cfffag
lol nerd
I don't need to hide behind laws to say allowing pedo shit does no good to any board
>>16913697
this
you fucked up by getting needless legalese involved though
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a1da70 No.16913819
>>16913798
>Guess I'm done with 8kun.
good
pedoshit is a leftover scourge from the bone goblin, the best thing Jim did when he got 8chan was get rid of /hebe/ and other assorted pedo garbage
even if some pedos stay within the law while using the site they create a friendly environment for the ones posting illegal stuff and also turn the site into a hub for pedos
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d0b765 No.16913831
>>16913748
And yet people still haven't learned not to reply to them. They aren't here for good faith discussion, so I don't know why people reply to them seriously.
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000000 No.16913852
>>16913690
Still a pedo.
It's hardly surprising that it's extremely common to find those in possession of photographic cp to also have loli porn.
I actually support loli shit, to forward the IPs of those who post them to law enforcement. I bet there would be a shitton of busted pedos that way, both the ones in posession of cp photos and actual child molesters. I'm not saying get the glowniggers involved, just geotrace it and contact local law enforcement so that they can do some preventative surveillance, there's no need to get the feds. Specially when state laws are usually harsher in this regard. A site that cooperates with law enforcement is a site that stays up. Sure, maybe some times you get an useless IP but even if only 3% lead to something I think it''s worth it. Notify law enforcement and let them surveil and get a warrant if the case merits it. Then raid the guy's house, bingo,
The admins are probably already doing this, but if they aren't yet, they should start as soon as possible. Bettering the world by getting rid of one pedo at a time.
Or better yet, don't inform law enforcement but some watchdog group, chances are that the info eventully falls on the lap of some bloodthirsty guy.
Now real question:
WHY ARE THE FEDS SO INCOMPETENT? DID THEY ORCHESTRATE PARKLAND?
They were served on a silver platter Nikolas Cruz's youtube comments about wanting to do a shooting and he had a history of clashes with law enforcement.
They either don't give a shit or were behind it. Never trust a fed. The only thing they're good for is to encourage clinical retards to do retarded things and then arrest said retard after providing him with stuff.
Look at this shitshow
https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150316/17433230331/fbi-pins-terrorist-nametag-retarded-fool-without-pot-to-piss.shtml
They're entrap and jail, not protect and serve. They don't protect shit and if they acted on the reports Parkland wouldn't have happened. Too busy trying to pin the election results on Russia I guess. No surprise since they were first headed by a literal homosexual degenerate. The FBI should be disbanded.
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a9ad64 No.16913865
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9aa2ef No.16913873
>>16913480
The few people getting this, and the amount of drama and leaks it took to get even a sliver of clarification on (only a few) things shows we're pretty much cuckchan-tier at this point. Nothing was learned from Moot or Hotwheels it seems.
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5ce5a5 No.16913891
Ahh yes, another thread devolved into loli vs anti-loli. Being more restrictive on loli isnt an ideological or legal decision by 8kun staff, its simply because its hosted in Russia. No matter what the US law is, they cant risk being booted by their host. And with the amount of ddos 8kun likely attracts, I doubt they are the most liked customer.
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6f0042 No.16913901
>>16913891
You're speaking the truth but none of the pedos here will care. As usual, their fetish is more important than anything else.
They can't even comprehend that someone would pick banning their child drawings over going to jail.
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a9ad64 No.16913909
A site which bans loli is worthless to me for multiple reasons.
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7dd320 No.16913931
>>16913798
honestly this post has tipped me over the edge into believing there was some kind of full-on concern troll raid that happened in this thread, it doesn't read like this nigger has ever posted on 8kun in his life before yet he claims he is leaving forever for some site that also probably doesn't have aborad named /loli/ because his dopamine addiction isn't complete until some board has those 4 little letters in the title no matter whether the content those letters describe is free to be posted or not. There is no way I believe that so many of the users from this board would be so vapid as to believe Mark's paranoid Jewish delusions of persecution as he is maybe the most hated man on this board other Fredrick Brennan, more hated than people like that literally gay southern american man who tried to hoard City of Heroes for himself (that hatred was more intense but shorter-lived).
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f83963 No.16913936
>>16913852
>It's hardly surprising that it's extremely common to find those in possession of photographic cp to also have loli porn.
Except the opposite is true. There's no evidence of correlation. The very little evidence there is, suggests the opposite. Of all convicted CP possessing pedos in the US since the rise of loli, only about 5 or so were also convicted on the loli obscenity law. This suggests very few pedos have loli. Pedos just generally aren't interested in cartoons. They want something realistic. Usually the only time they associate with loli is to push for pedo acceptance by saying "loli is pedo and it's okay, so pedo should be okay".
>>16913891
>its simply because its hosted in Russia.
This site has numerous boards that are illegal in Russia. This site is blocked in Russia. They chose this host because Russia doesn't care as long as their citizens can't directly access the site. That's why this host was chosen.
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d50151 No.16913951
>>16913798
>So much for being that "bastion of freedom," huh?
The laws of the USA are movable. It is physically impossible to have a bastion of freedom and movable laws at the same time. I hope you now know this lesson.
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f4cc20 No.16913953
Well it was fun while it lasted
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6cb9a1 No.16913955
>>16913936
>Pedos just generally aren't interested in cartoons.
I've found that the overall biggest difference between pedos and lolicons is what they fundamentally want.
Lolicons want a fantasy, a girl that's pure and innocent but often mature enough to understand what's happening. This cannot exist since the second voids the first and that's why it's a fantasy.
Pedos want the exact oposite, a girl that actually wants to have sex with them but doesn't actually know what's happening, they want someone young precisely because they are malleable and gullible.
So while the first just have a fetish, a fantasy they like to indulge in that actual CP couldn't really satisfy, the second wants something that's actually morally reprehensible and loli just won't cut it.
I swear you could put a granny with an ID card saying she was actually 6 years old and pedos would chase that.
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88169c No.16913959
http://archive.is/hYPlq
Mark got someone to write an article about him. I'll spare you a read. Its basically a Mark dicksucking article.
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a03824 No.16913962
>>16913798
>So the /loli/ board is never coming back?
Ron hasn't said anything yet, and he has three weeks to do so.
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da4524 No.16913965
>>16913891
>8kun
>hosted in Russia
wtf, since when?
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88169c No.16913967
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fd6942 No.16913969
>All these goons getting bootyblasted about 2D drawings probably just the same goon with a vpn
I will never not be smug at you.
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5e48ed No.16913970
>>16913909
Which is why I have julay.world/delicious/ to keep me company. Don't blame me, blame Mark!
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7dd320 No.16913972
>>16913959
>OneAngryGaymer
OAG confirmed literally just a blog site
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f83963 No.16913973
>>16913955
>Lolicons want a fantasy, a girl that's pure and innocent but often mature enough to understand what's happening.
Since lolicon is Jap slang for lolita complex and that is attraction to a sexually precocious girl, you are technically right. But in practice, this is a very poor statement. There's more than plenty of lolicon materials that depict girls who are not mentally mature or sexually precocious.
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f83963 No.16913981
>>16913962
>Ron hasn't said anything yet
Ron has said something, that they'll get a new network provider within two weeks which will allow loli, and thay's why there's a three week wait to see if he follows through.
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7dd320 No.16913984
>>16913967
>all mark did was throw some rope on the ground and say watch this
honestly it is more akin to those buddhist monks and trannies who self-immolate to protest war and persecution and shit except in this case he didn't even know if wars were being fought or people were being persecuted, he just self-immolated and mistakenly assumed he would still be alive afterward
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a03824 No.16913985
>>16913973
>There's more than plenty of lolicon materials that depict girls who are not mentally mature or sexually precocious.
You mean like toddlercon?
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6cb9a1 No.16914007
>>16913959
>>16913967
Why does this faggot keep putting his own opinions and bias in the articles he writes instead of just writing what happened and letting the audience decide?
I get he ain't a journalist, but it's not great when you're just another tinge of the SJWs you complain about.
>>16913973
>There's more than plenty of lolicon materials that depict girls who are not mentally mature or sexually precocious.
Except in those materials, it's never depicted the mental scarring they'd get if that were to happen IRL or how they'd be at the very least severely confused during the whole act.
At most you either get wild exaggerations of naivety or the girl just uses plenty of euphemisms, but otherwise it's not like she's a slut, she just knows the nature of the act and is okay with it because she knows that it matters for the other person, that it's supposed to feel good, etc and she can handle that without any of the problems that come if she was an actual child.
I'll grant you that there's plenty of subversion here but it's usually because the main purpose in that material stops being the loli and is instead toddlercon or ryona or whatever else and loli takes a backseat, again with a much more simplified version of what an actual child would be like in those circunstances.
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62e0a8 No.16914010
>>16913727
United States v. Handley
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/FSupp2/564/996/1407869/
>On May 8, 2007, Defendant Christopher Handley (Defendant) was charged in a three-count indictment with receipt of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a) (count one) and possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual *999 abuse of children in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b) (count two). Count three was a notice of forfeiture.
On October 17, 2007, the Grand Jury returned a superseding indictment,
>charging Defendant with receipt of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a) (count one), possession of obscene visual representations of the sexual abuse of children in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(b) (counts two through four), and mailing obscene matter in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1461, 2 (count five). Count six was a notice of forfeiture.
There is no dispute the images in this case do not involve real children, thus Ferber is inapplicable. Subsections 1466A(a) (1) and (b) (1) require the visual depictions be obscene and thus must satisfy the Miller standard.
>>16913734
Eat my cock, faggot
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7724fa No.16914021
File: 61eefc1c3bd8bd1⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 478.78 KB, 1000x1045, 200:209, _cirno_touhou_drawn_by_neg….jpg)
>>16914007
> it's never depicted the mental scarring they'd get if that were to happen IRL
There's an artist who draws a ton of stuff like that and usually has a few pages of epilogue where they show the girl socially withdrawing from everyone and her parents acting worried and confused about what happened. I wish I could find him again because I really enjoy looking at sad things like pics related.
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c9cfff No.16914023
>>16914010
This is the decision I was asking for. Good job. You're right.
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e797d4 No.16914031
>>16913642
>>16914010
Ron this what you need to read about.
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6cb9a1 No.16914034
>>16914010
Thanks for proving that faggot wrong. Good job, Anon.
>>16914021
Not gonna judge your ryona fetish, I can almost see the appeal but it ain't my thing, however it's still just a fantasy and something far more complex than just "wanting to do it IRL"
I guess you can't have /cute/ without that as well.
There was also that doujin about the guy with the fake radiation scanner tricking a girl into letting him in and the artist did went through a lot of effort to make it seem as real and plausible enough to the point that some mad man actually did it IRL and said in court that doujin inspired him.
However the fetish there would be the rape itself, the loli was just to show a very vulnerable target, I'd say.
Are you a woman by any chance? Because the destruction of cuteness has a bigger female audience, actually.
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f83963 No.16914064
>>16913985
Yes and no. Toddlercon is a difference in body type which many don't consider loli, and even toddlercon has some stuff with mature and sexually precocious girls.
>>16914007
>Except in those materials, it's never depicted the mental scarring they'd get if that were to happen IRL or how they'd be at the very least severely confused during the whole act.
Wrong again. And either way it's irrelevant. Getting off the destruction of the life of the girl is sadism by definition. Pedophilia is the attraction the underdeveloped body.
>again with a much more simplified version of what an actual child would be like in those circunstances.
Nigger, that's an issue with quality of writing.
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1099b2 No.16914075
>>16913959
>OneAngryGamer sides with Mark
No surprise.
He's just another blogger that defend's a shit person's abuse of power, just like every other game journo.
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a9ad64 No.16914091
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1cc749 No.16914107
>>16913474
It's primarily the fault of Ron and Jim. When the site went down I checked their twitter every fucking day for news on when it would be up. When it finally did return as 8kun Ron and Jim made absolutely no fucking mention of this. No links posted to advertise it, not a fucking peep. I personally only realized it was back up when I saw boomers on twitter posting screenshots of /qresearch/ and even then had to search for a bit before finding the link in an article because I had no idea we were using .top. Just incompetence from the top down.
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f83963 No.16914123
>>16914010
Anon, you just posted excerpts from the "SUMMARY OF MATERIAL FACTS". What is important is the "CONCLUSION" section.
>Because subsections 1466A(a) (2) and (b) (2) do not require the visual depictions be obscene, and those subsections of the statute restrict protected speech, the Court finds those sections are constitutionally infirm and cannot form the basis of a charge under the superseding indictment.
>The superseding indictment alleges sufficient facts to support counts charging violations of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a) (1) and (b) (1). Thus, the defects in subsections 1466A(a) (2) and (b) (2) do not necessitate dismissal of the superseding indictment in this case. The determination of what constitutes obscenity is a determination to be made by the trier of fact in this case. Accordingly, the Court finds the pending motion must be denied in part and granted in part. Defendant's Motion to Dismiss (Clerk's No. 45) is denied, with the exception of any prosecution under subsections 1466A(a) (2) and (b) (2) as to which the motion is granted.
What this says that only subsections (a)(2) and (b)(2) of 1466A were struck down. Subsections (a)(1) and (b)(1) and (c) remain on law and were enforced in the case. Additionally https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1466A still says in these subsections
>(a) In General.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly produces, distributes, receives, or possesses with intent to distribute, a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—
>(1)
>(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
>(B) is obscene
>(b) Additional Offenses.—Any person who, in a circumstance described in subsection (d), knowingly possesses a visual depiction of any kind, including a drawing, cartoon, sculpture, or painting, that—
>(1)
>(A) depicts a minor engaging in sexually explicit conduct; and
>(B) is obscene;
>(c)It is not a required element of any offense under this section that the minor depicted actually exist.
People have cited this case repeatedly for a decade now, erroneously claiming that it struck down 1466A, when it only partially struck down the law.
>inb4 the remaining law requires obscenity tests, which are a crock of shit
They are a crock of shit, but this is the law, and is has been enforced in the last 10 years due to pedos getting caught with CP and loli and having loli tacked on as an extra charge. Whether you or anyone else here thinks obscenity laws like this are unconstitutional and would be struck down by the Supreme Court is irrelevant, especially when Jim and Ron want to avoid going to court at all. All it would take is some third party to pester law enforcement repeatedly about a US hosted loli site until they decide to take it down and arrest the owners. For a site hosted out of the US like 8kun, I'm not sure. Has there been precedence with US law enforcement making ISPs block sites with law breaking material that is out of the US's reach? Does Jim's status as a US citizen come into play? He is one, right?
The defendant argues his right to import obscene things for private use. The goverment then makes an argument making all internet porn illegal. Jesus fuck.
>We are not disposed to extend the precise, carefully limited holding of Stanley to permit importation of admittedly obscene materials simply because it is imported for private use only. To allow such a claim would be not unlike compelling the Government to permit importation of prohibited or controlled drugs for private consumption as long as such drugs are not for public distribution or sale.
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a32f9e No.16914126
>>16914107
Ron's and Jim's incompetence is clearly Mark's fault, that fat fuck.
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f83963 No.16914129
>>16914034
>However the fetish there would be the rape itself, the loli was just to show a very vulnerable target, I'd say.
Now this a very poor arguement. By this logic, you could say actual pedophiles don't have pedophilia, they just like rape and rape children because it's easier. You could also use this line of thinking to say it's anything else tangential to the child that gets them off.
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61a82c No.16914142
>>16912580
That's exactly what Mark was ya dumb fuck, if anything it can't get worse.
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f83963 No.16914145
>>16914123
Again, I want to put emphasis on this retardation at the very end.
The court compared importing porn to importing illegal drugs
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a32f9e No.16914150
>>16914123
>All it would take is some third party to pester law enforcement repeatedly about a US hosted loli site until they decide to take it down and arrest the owners
That could only happen if a local prosecutor got a hair up his ass AND if the servers happen to be hosted in that particular state where the prosecutor resides, but the servers are hosted in California which (the 9th Court of Appeals) explicitly stated that 2D is 1st Amendment-Protected Speech.
What are you trying to say?
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dc9f68 No.16914164
>>16914075
To be fair, anon, you could argue Ron abused his power as well. But it was at least to remove a kike and ultimately improve the quality of the board.
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f83963 No.16914174
>>16914150
>That could only happen if a local prosecutor got a hair up his ass
What do you mean?
>AND if the servers happen to be hosted in that particular state where the prosecutor resides
Doubtful. Wouldn't Jimbo just be called to court since he's a US citizen?
>but the servers are hosted in California
I thought 8kun moved to Russia due to deplatforming?
>California which (the 9th Court of Appeals) explicitly stated that 2D is 1st Amendment-Protected Speech.
<California doing something right
You got a source?
>What are you trying to say?
Exactly what I said. If I'm right, and I hope I'm not, anyone with enough of a stick up their ass could get a loli friendly site to either ban loli or shut down, given the owner is a US citizen and maybe given that the servers are hosted in the US.
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0d3ebb No.16914175
>>16914164
Too early to tell if anything will improve in this shit.
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62e0a8 No.16914185
>>16914123
>We are not disposed to extend the precise, carefully limited holding of Stanley to permit importation of admittedly obscene materials simply because it is imported for private use only. To allow such a claim would be not unlike compelling the Government to permit importation of prohibited or controlled drugs for private consumption as long as such drugs are not for public distribution or sale.
<Art is equivalent to drug trafficking
What in the fuck.
One of the reasons I hate having this discussion about loli, CP, and obscenity is because this is probably the most inconsistently ruled upon subject in all of U.S. jurisprudence. The Miller Standard is literally an echo of "I know it when I see it" from Jacobellis v. Ohio, and yet courts keep ruling that it's not overbroad. No one can define where obscenity begins or ends, and yet it's not considered overbroad.
18 U.S.C. § 1466A especially is so fucking vague that, as you just pointed out, it can be used to argue that internet porn is illegal. It's even more confusing because some cases after this used 18 U.S.C. § 2256 as the basis for defining child pornography, (which I believe was the actual intent, while 18 U.S.C. § 1466A is a glorified obscenity law), while a few others use 18 U.S.C. § 1466A. I've heard 18 U.S.C. § 1466A is supposed to supersede 18 U.S.C. § 2256 but I've seen no proof of this anywhere. It seems like both laws stand even though they hold definitions that contradict the other.
The Department of Justice specifically uses 18 U.S.C. § 2256 on its page defining child pornography and relegates 18 U.S.C. § 1466A to its page on federal laws regarding obscenity.
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d0b765 No.16914188
>>16914174
Anyone with enough of a stick up their ass could challenge any porn site. That doesn't mean they would ever win.
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0d3ebb No.16914194
>>16913959
I'm not glad Mark was removed by admin power abuse since that sets a bad precedent, but I'm glad he's gone.
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f83963 No.16914205
>>16914188
>Anyone with enough of a stick up their ass could challenge any porn site.
Yes, but that's because the courts and prosecutors know fighting regular old porn is a losing battle that would make them look bad to the general public. They don't think the same of cartoon "kiddie porn".
>>16914185
>No one can define where obscenity begins or ends, and yet it's not considered overbroad.
But it still has to be in some capacity because, and I ought to think you should agree with this though some have not, public obscenity ought to be illegal. And fag pride parades where they show off their erections in skin-tight suits to half naked children ought to fall under this.
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7724fa No.16914224
>>16914034
>Are you a woman by any chance? Because the destruction of cuteness has a bigger female audience, actually.
1) no
2) It's not the destruction of cuteness, I just like sad things. Both images in >>16914064 are great.
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a32f9e No.16914230
>>16914174
>make my argument for me
No.
You're the one making a (false) assertion. You prove me wrong.
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f83963 No.16914282
>>16914230
How would providing a source for your claim make my argument? You made the claim this California case made loli legal, and I'm asking for proof this case even exists. 62e0a8 had no problem giving his case. If there's evidence saying that 18 U.S. Code § 1466A has been struck down in its entirety, I'd love to have it, as I can then show others that loli is 100% legal. And you didn't address my other questions, one of which was just genuine confusion as to something you said.
>You're the one making a (false) assertion. You prove me wrong.
Okay. 18 U.S. Code § 1466A hasn't been entirely struck down, and no court case properly cited in this thread shows otherwise.
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a32f9e No.16914305
>>16914282
Your only argument seems to be: "it's a gray area"
Well, so what then? Because of the US Constitution's Enumeration Clause, Loli is legal, unless some law says otherwise and every single law that has said so which faced higher court review has been struck down as unconstitutional. The only thing you seem to be doing is >impying that loli can be "dangerous" when there's nothing to imply that at all. I.E. classic FUD.
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f83963 No.16914474
>>16914305
I want to make your argument for you, since I want loli to be legal, so I'm looking through Justia for Ninth District Court cases in California involving 1466a since the already shown 2007 case. I've found a few.
https://cases.justia.com/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/07-10288/0710288-2011-02-25.pdf?ts=1411055681
>UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v. WALTER M. SCHALES 2008
>For the reasons set forth below, we reject Schales’s facial and as applied challenges to 18 U.S.C. § 1466A(a)(1);
Upheld
https://cases.justia.com/federal/appellate-courts/ca9/13-50036/13-50036-2014-03-25.pdf?ts=1411077283
>UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v. IRA ISAACS, DBA LA Media, DBA 2014
>Isaacs was convicted on one count of engaging in the business of producing and selling obscene matter, 18 U.S.C. § 1466(a)
Upheld, and didn't even challenge it.
https://cases.justia.com/federal/appellate-courts/ca5/16-11161/16-11161-2017-11-29.pdf?ts=1512001812
>UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, v. JOHN R. FARRAR, 2017
>Farrar claims the images he possessed are not obscene within the meaning of 18 U.S.C. § 1466A and the First Amendment.
>Later agrees they are obscene though
Upheld, and didn't challenge it constitutionally. I could find no later cases matching your described case.
>Your only argument seems to be: "it's a gray area"
It's not gray. It is illegal and has been upheld by courts in recent years. The only argument that it's a gray area is "it's not illegal until you get caught". Just like piracy, it is very low risk, but piracy is still illegal. If you want to argue nothing can be considered obscene until presented to a court for determination of obscenity, that's the same as saying it's not illegal until you get caught. This law was upheld just late last year even.
https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca8/18-2942/18-2942-2019-12-27.html
>United States of America v. David R. Buie 2019
>A federal jury convicted David R. Buie of one count of possession of child obscenity in violation of 18 U.S.C. §§ 1466A(b)(1) and (d).
>Buie appeals his conviction, arguing that the criminal statute under which he was convicted is overbroad and vague in violation of the First and Fifth Amendments to the United States Constitution.
I don't feel like digging through the whole document for this one, so here's the result from the case page's Court Description. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/ca8/18-2942/18-2942-2019-12-27.html
>In a prosecution for possession of child obscenity in violation of 18 U.S.C. Sec. 1466A(b)(1) and (d) defendant's First and Fifth Amendment challenges to the statute are rejected, as the statute is neither unconstitutionally overbroad nor vague.
>Because of the US Constitution's Enumeration Clause, Loli is legal
<The Enumeration Clause in the U.S. Constitution is also known as the Census Clause (found in Article 1, sections 1 & 2 of the Constitution) and reads as follows, “Representatives…shall be apportioned among several states…according to their respective numbers…the actual enumeration shall be made within three years and the first meeting of the Congress of the United States of America, and within every subsequent term of ten years in such manner as they shall by law direct.” Okay, so what does actually mean? Well, it is basically stating that the United States conducts a census every 10 years, and that the first one needed to be conducted within three years of the creation of the aforementioned article.
What? What does that have to do with anything?
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f83963 No.16914505
I think other anons should do some digging too. Ron's lawyers may put the site safety first and just say loli should be banned to avoid a potential court case. Or either of they may half ass it and not find the possible recent case that strikes down 1466a. I know the chance is slim, since I found a case from just late last year where the law was still upheld, but the chance is there.
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a32f9e No.16914542
>>16914474
None of these things actually say what you claim they say. All you have are >implications which is classic FUD.
To use a different example:
>No one in the FOSS community could definitively disprove Microsoft's >implication that FOSS licenses would NOT rape your children and kill your pets, so it's better to just just buying Microsoft's products for perpetuity and not worry about it! Until a bunch of whiny trannies infiltrated and ruined the FOSS community from the inside made the discussion moot.
>>16914505
>I believe loli should be banned because …uh reasons …um court reasons which no one can seem to cite, but they must be real!
>so >we should ban it anyway just to be safe!
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f83963 No.16914568
>>16914542
>None of these things actually say what you claim they say.
They do, and you're just being contrarian at this point.
>>No one in the FOSS community could definitively disprove Microsoft's >implication that FOSS licenses would NOT rape your children and kill your pets, so it's better to just just buying Microsoft's products for perpetuity and not worry about it!
What you're saying here is that I'm saying "no one can prove loli isn't illegal." That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying it is illegal, fullstop. I cited four court cases in which the law which makes loli illegal is upheld. One of which is barely half a year old and involved a challenge to the law's constitutionality. All you have is ad-hominem and no sources. Unless Ron's lawyers find something you or I didn't, or a more diligent anon does, the faggot will probably play it safe and ban loli.
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a03824 No.16914700
>>16914568
If you want to take this discussion further, I'd say take it to the GG thread.
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86627a No.16914777
>>16913984
That's our Mark for you.
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c3c067 No.16915040
>>16912765
Getting to know family won't relieve stress from experience, it isn't exactly worth bothering with.
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1099b2 No.16915065
Now that Mark has been removed, this leads to now what?
Will we be getting a new BO that isn't a huge sperg like Mark?
Or will the new BO be alot worse?
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a84fd5 No.16915079
>>16915065
My money's on it being a tranny goon that ruins everything.
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3164d4 No.16915218
>>16915065
Just go to fatchan/v/
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49ce6e No.16915232
>>16915218
currently, it's nuked
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3164d4 No.16915237
>>16915232
Won't be, check the meta, it's gonna get open in a few hours
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06b165 No.16915242
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49ce6e No.16915255
>>16915242
>>16915237
That's why I said currently.
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462252 No.16915314
im gonna go hang out on Jewsh neverever revival project board. you know what? fuck this boomer and fuck mark, im sick of following mark around like no one else can be the BO he's a paid fucking employee and soon to be homeless and fired.
i like julay/v/ but the board software is old and shitty and i want to see what jewsh can do now that he doesn't have the cripple and the boomer on his jugular
at least infinity neverever allows you to upload multiple files per post and looks pretty. thats enough for me.
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49ce6e No.16915328
>>16915314
He also recently upgraded his servers
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846e88 No.16915331
>>16915314
Josh is still pretty buddy buddy with cripplewheels.
Unless he makes it clear that the dud will be 100% not involved in it at all, ever, I'm not touching that site.
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ed870a No.16915411
>>16913102
Make an announcement your starting it back up again, he might be interested.
Is it hard to run the Hungry Games? Because I might do it if it doesn't soak up too much time.
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dfcade No.16915413
>>16915331
Josh has been vocal about his distaste for what cripplewheels has been up to and for that matter the goblin has stabbed him int he back publicly at every opportunity.
https://twitter.com/HW_BEAT_THAT/status/1242131560905621504
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ed870a No.16915415
>>16915413
Jesus this little shit has gotten filled with so much spite, hasn't he? He's pushed away absolutely everybody. He pushed away anons, he pushed away Ron and Jim, he pushed away Mark, he pushed away Mark, when is he going to finally lash out against his supporters?
Josh is still a faggot, though. Nothing can change my mind about that. He's just not as much of a faggot as Fred an is significantly more functional as a human being.
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1fc3dd No.16915424
>Please stop beating around the bush with the shitty rebrands, the over promising marketing, the whole youtube shit, the lack of board creation, the lack of loli boards, and the lack of development of new software.
Is it really beating around the bush when its been like 6 months and things aren't back to normal? The main problems with 8kun are sluggish servers, endless bugs and not migrating pol or loli boards.
The server issues:
8kun is radioactive to all hosting providers except their current Russian friends. I think it would have been wise to shut down 8chan for 1 year and then come back as 8kun with that hyped up video Ron posted a while back. After a year they would have plenty of time to prepare and have a fresh start. After all, even with the site in shambles, where have people gone? Nowhere. The amount of times I've seen "where has everybody gone?" posted is crazy. If only they made a proper comeback with everything working properly, the users would eventually return.
Not migrating certain boards is related to this because its hosted out side of USA and lacks proper free speech hosting.
The software issues:
Apart from being cruft (openib) on top of Hotwheels written-on-shrooms code (infinity) on top of cruft (vichan) on top of a 13 year olds shit (tinyboard), 8chan also Seemed to hard coded a lot of stuff (like the domain) and heavily relied on their old architecture and cloudflare. Once that went away, we got the plague of issues that are still being dealt with to this day. And now on top of everything, ron promises to build "odin", a mysterious solution to nothing. JUST FIX THE SITE. Mark is fired now, hire another dev.
My .02
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22edb9 No.16915450
>>16915415
Mark: so fat, he has to be pushed twice.
but seriously if the gremlin tried to push anyone his forearms would snap
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49ce6e No.16915468
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ed870a No.16915491
>>16915450
Wew I didn't even notice that, I meant he pushed away Josh on that second one.
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400b9f No.16916845
>>16912735
Hotwheels really did come around at the perfect time when moot shit on the goobergaters. Its sad to see the death of us in the face this time.
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455dbf No.16917915
>>16912735
>>16912726
Fatchan is actually a good choice, it seems. Contrary to Mark's OP, he threw a tantrum and gave up /v/ there, so it's NOT FUCKING HIS, THANK YOU JESUS.
As someone who has been looking for the best possible opportunity to jump ship from this fucking jew, it's a relief to see that there's finally a /v/ he doesn't have his fat fucking kike hands on.
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000000 No.16919165
>resignation letter
>marks resignation letter
thank you jesus
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707280 No.16921626
>>16912776
Exactly why we hate mark. Dudes a fucking oversized toddler.
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