cadeb7 No.16870818[Last 50 Posts]
Previous thread >>>>16845264 is autosaging
>What the fuck is this?
/v/ is acting as the Admiralty of France in the game Rule the Waves 2, acted upon through your host, Admiral Anon. Previously we waged two separate wars against Italy, with the later war resulting in the revolt of the population and the execution of the Prime Minister, as well as a short conflict with Austria-Hungary. It is currently late 1915 and we are engaged in a war with Germany.
>What's the situation right now?
In our war with Germany we are in a bit of an awkward position. Germany possesses a fleet focuses largely around capital ships, with an emphasis on well armed and armored vessels that are quite difficult to destroy. Our cruiser force is generally superior to theirs, but they have been able to enforce a blockade for the past year upon us due to the disparity brought on by our government's hesitance to fund large-scale construction projects. Inspired by a desire not to force an engagement that may go poorly due to the German's heavy armor, we have avoided sustaining any major losses, having thus far only lost a few destroyers.
>What can I do, I literally have no knowledge of naval design or warfare
Perfect. Rule the Wa/v/es is much more fun when you play it with people who don't know what the fuck they're doing. Throughout a game of RtW, events and situations will have to be acted upon. These can be diplomatic, economic or design related. Debate is highly encouraged. Late last thread there was widespread disagreement as to whether our new capital ship should focus firepower, speed or a combination of both. But in any case, even if a decision isn't on the docket, input as to our strategy ("design a new class of DDs that focuses on the maximum amount of torpedoes"), requests for ship/aircraft/squadron names ("name one of our carrier's dive bomber squadrons "The Flying Faggots") or other general input ("ur a fagit") is all greatly appreciated.
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cadeb7 No.16870826
As the war with Germany drags on, we lay down our newest class of battlecruisers, although it may be more apt to refer to them as fast dreadnoughts. Armed with both the largest caliber and highest number of guns, these ships will undoubtedly be world-class vessels. In fact, at this time they are projected to be the largest ships in existence upon their completion. Our pocketbooks aren't looking great, but no doubt we can sort that out in due time. I have also adjusted the ammunition load-outs to the following, replacing many HE rounds with SAP instead.
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e72976 No.16870833
>>16870826
I wish real navies would use similar designations.
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cadeb7 No.16870834
The Germans offer us a white peace, which of course we reject. That same month, our destroyers attempt a night raid of the German coastline, only to run into a division of German torpedo boats doing the same thing. In a confused night battle, one advantage of the German's small ships is demonstrated, in that their nimbleness means striking one with a torpedo is nearly impossible. Things get worse when a 3" round detonates in Ndongo Bonaparte's engine room, disabling them entirely and bringing the ship to a halt. Soon afterward a torpedo impacts her and the ship is lost. Not wanting to risk another loss like this for the chance of destroying a torpedo boat, we retreat back towards the French coast.
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cadeb7 No.16870847
The next couple months are relatively quiet on the seas, with no major engagements taking place. However, we get a set of technology advances, as well as the ability to begin constructing airbases. While our first flying boat designs are still on the drawing boards, setting up a Naval Air Station at Brest seems a logical choice, as we currently have an airship base at Dunkerque.
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cadeb7 No.16870868
A rather strange action takes place in the South Pacific, as a German raider attempts to harass our colony is Polynesia. The forces defending this area are highly outdated, with the failed experimental ship Surcouf being the centerpiece. Remarkably, she manages to land a hit at long range with her massively oversized gun. However, this shell fails to do any real damage and she is forced to retreat.
Back on the strategic map, our airship pilots finally announce that they will conduct attacks on ships if possible, and our flying boat prototype is presented, with it's own bomb capability.
last update for tonight
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77ca4f No.16870871
>>16870868
Realized I forgot to include the image of the actual shot hitting
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e72976 No.16870886
>>16870868
>The forces defending this area are highly outdated, with the failed experimental ship Surcouf being the centerpiece
Is this ship historical? I cannot find any information of it, the dates don't agree with each other. There was a ship called Surcouf with a huge gun but it was a submarine cruiser built after WW2, and link related says about a Surcouf that served since 1890's, but the armament doesn't match.
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbin-class_cruiser
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cbd066 No.16870897
>>16870886
The closest thing to the Surcouf in reality was the Matsushima-class cruisers of the Japanese Navy, the idea sold to them by French naval theory. These actually mounted an even bigger gun, RtW equivalent to a -2 quality 13" gun.
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e2a1b6 No.16871041
>>16870818
Previous thread >>>>16845264 is autosaging
it's on page 6, not 13.
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8c0f41 No.16881788
>>16871041
We're back.
Page 13 rule should really be relaxed a bit, having to wait a full week between threads is a bit excessive
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cadeb7 No.16882030
So I only vaguely remember the results of the previous action, but short story shorter:
>German force raids our coastline
>large amounts of German capital ships
>we briefly engage before realizing they're much more powerful
>fall back, using DDs to cover the retreat
>a half dozen airships make an attack from high altitude, missing all their bombs
>German raid results in very little effect either way
>>16881788
I have to agree, I'd like to ask for a waiver on that rule. The thread just "below" the old one last had a post 10 days ago and it isn't on autosage.
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cadeb7 No.16882104
Our armored cruisers main batteries can now be upgraded yet again, for some excellent quality guns. Of course, that would mean taking them out of service for some time, so this will probably have to wait until after the war or for a later class. Realizing that our ships will need protection against aeroplanes, our engineers begin working on methods of combating them. And furthering our seaplane technology is the ability to operate large seaplane tenders..
A cruiser action near the Dogger Bank occurs, but the appearance of the juggernaut that is the Ostfriesland battle-cruiser means we are quickly forced to call it off. Our own cruisers simply have no ability to stand toe-to-toe with such a ship.
A small piece of good news comes to light, as on of our aeroplane companies offers us up a capable combat aircraft. As we currently have no fighters in service, we graciously accept.
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cadeb7 No.16882118
In the Bay of Biscay a force of our ships is escorting a merchant convoy, accompanied by a seaplane tender. At roughly 3AM in the morning, a series of unknown shapes appear in the dark. A short exchange of fire takes place, with our cruisers landing several good hits for only a single hit upon our DD Sabre. Uncertain as to what we've encounter, our force sticks with the convoy as it approaches France. But just past five, the sun breaks the horizon and reveals that the German ships have followed in our wake. Worse still, they are within 9,000 meters, close range for large ships. And to cap things off, leading them is the Ostfriesland, the flagship of the German Navy.
We've essentially got a few actions we could take. We could go fully on the retreat, leaving the convoy to be wiped out by our enemies. Alternatively, we could try and stand up to the encroaching ships, as risky as that might be.
Should we live up to our nation's heritage and flee, or go for the surprising option and fight?
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8c0f41 No.16882126
>>16882118
Send in the destroyers. We need to sink that ship eventually, might as well do it while they're relatively vulnerable.
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9f0d72 No.16882153
How do we keep getting so lucky with this quality +1 dakka? I never get this shit when I'm playing.
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9f0d72 No.16882156
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cadeb7 No.16882178
It does not take long for the first German hits to begin landing, and soon a capital ship round penetrates into the engine room of God shits on the Kaiser, bringing her to a near complete halt. More rounds come soon afterwards, rending her hull open and dooming the ship on her first combat action before dawn has finished breaking. Our destroyers charge forwards, briefly forcing the Germans back. It looks at first as if this action will be another indecisive one, with the Germans retreating, but they turn around and come back in force.
It is then that the Ostfriesland makes a rather…questionable decision. Despite the approaching line of our modern destroyers, she continues an advance. It's only when the distance shortens to under a kilometer that she begins evasive action, but by that time it's far too late. Torpedoes are launched from both ends of the destroyer line, catching the Ostfriesland in a crossfire that's nearly impossible to avoid. Two torpedoes slam into either side of her and the ship immediately is rendered dead in the water.
But while the torpedoing of the Ostfriesland is certainly the most significant element of this action, the most spectacular comes only minutes later. Our BC ISS Acrebleu fires upon the German light cruiser Undine, and the first round that impacts penetrates the cruiser's armored belt and detonates inside the magazine of it's guns, resulting in a violent explosion that annihilates the ship instantly.
In the aftermath, the few remaining ships (a pair of destroyers and a Von der Tann-class BC) immediately begin a retreat. With many heavily damaged destroyers, but a completely intact merchant convoy, we also turn to return to France. Along the way, the DD Sabre eventually succumbs to her battle damage, our second loss of the engagement. Finally, when everything seems to be in the clear, a torpedo launched by a German U-boat strikes a merchant, leading to it's eventual sinking.
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cadeb7 No.16882192
Included are most of the battle details. The results of this engagement are rather major. While we have managed to break the formal blockade for a couple months, the shoe is now on the other foot, as we are now blockading Germany. Of course, that means that some of their ships have now taken to raiding.
A set of prototypes for new fighters are presented. While the Liore seems to largely be better, it does sacrifice a bit of maneuverability, it gains in many ways. Should we suspend production of the LeO.47 for the 49?
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9f0d72 No.16882210
>heavy hits 22
>medium hits 136
>light hits 65
>torpedo hits 4
We certainly took our anger out on that ship.
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8c0f41 No.16882214
>>16882192
Replace the 47, with those stats it's barely fit to intercept a floatplane.
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cadeb7 No.16882266
We unlock another major technology, allowing us to create ships that pack all important aspects of the ship in a tightly concentrated citadel, while the rest of the ship is unarmored. This results in an armor layout much lighter, letting us create a ship with a thicker belt and deck than normal. The downside is that this requires a flat deck design, which does not allow for the deck to reinforce the belt armor. Meanwhile, our floatplane is upgraded to carry bombs. We also see an upgrade in our 11" gun tech, such as that used by our only BC in service.
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8c0f41 No.16882282
>>16882266
Let's build a large seaplane carrier, I'd love to see at least one successful airstrike before the end of the war.
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cadeb7 No.16882416
A small destroyer engagement allowed us a chance to let our remaining seaplane tender launch a full strike, but deteriorating weather and a fast enemy force meant that the strike failed to find it's target. We get quite a bit of news about cruisers, as we unlock tech for them and our new class hits the waves and impresses all with it's speed. And to satisfy those wishing for greater seaplane capabilities, we lay down a quite large seaplane carrier, that will be able to provide scouting, strike capability and CAP to an entire battlegroup.
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a2916d No.16882446
>>16882416
>wine delivery system class
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9514cb No.16883081
Is there a non-DRM version that I can pirate yet?
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cadeb7 No.16883318
Off the Western coast of France a pair of German raiders once again attempt to make a attempt to attack our convoy. And once again, the obsolescence of the German's cruiser force is apparent, as the raiders are clearly meant to screen a fleet from torpedo boats, not perform independent action. Our cruisers have no issue in dispatching them…until in the very last minute of the action a torpedo slams into 1066 WILL COMMENCE AGAIN. Despite the heavy damage inflicted, the crew manages to keep the ship from going down and the action is a victory, albeit one that almost ended in a draw.
The war is approaching the end of it's third year, and Germany has yet to show any intention of making peace. Our people are growing restless as well, with the trade disruptions caused by intermittent blockades and raider activity. But there is perhaps another way we could go about bringing them to the negotiating table.
What should we do?
>>16883081
I've been told an older version exists on a Russian torrent site, but I don't know much myself.
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9f0d72 No.16883341
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8c0f41 No.16883345
>>16883318
Unleash the commies.
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909418 No.16883385
>>16883318
I don't see how it could possibly go wrong.
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cadeb7 No.16883511
An encounter between our battlecruiser forces occurs. While our ship lands a few early hits, the Germans respond with a 12" round that knocks out the rear turret of ISS Acrebleu. With the engagement turning out for the worst, our destroyers deploy a smoke screen and a return to port goes uneventfully.
A lack of any particular success in the war effort finally seems to be taking a toll on the Germans. In the air, someone finally figures out how to attach a torpedo to an airplane, allowing us to create dedicated torpedo bombers at our land bases, which can now be expanded to 40 planes each. And Loire steps forward and offers us a new flying boat, which has somewhat better range and speed, but lacks any abilty to carry munitions.
Should we accept the new plane, or stick with the ones we have?
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8c0f41 No.16883540
>>16883511
Accept the new flying boats, and order a torpedo bomber (priorities: range/bombs).
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cadeb7 No.16884313
A few un-noteworthy actions occur, but none consist of much more than a few shots being exchanged. While there continue to be reports of disturbances and protests in Germany, those same calls for peace are being echoed in our own streets. It's becoming uncomfortably plausible that this war might be ended not at sea but at the hands of revolution.
What should we do?
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909418 No.16884342
>>16884313
We should negotiate our way out. We eroded their capital lead enough that we'll be in good shape for another war later, I think.
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cadeb7 No.16884361
>>16884342
I'm going to wait for a one or two more pieces of input, but I'll also provide German losses and current fleet status here too. It is worth mentioning that Germany actually scrapped several of their most outdated ships, likely freeing up significant capital to undergo even more construction beyond what their oversized budget normally allows.
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8c0f41 No.16884366
>>16884313
Third option. We're still probably in better shape than Germany, we just have to hold on for a few more months.
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e20444 No.16884544
>>16884313
Third probably works better. Better the Germans come to us first wanting peace, then we won't get utterly shafted by treaties. We can probably hold out.
>>16884361
That's a lot of BB mass for Germany, though, but fuck that DD swarm? C'est magnifique. I don't care if its probably shit, wolfpacks are the best.
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cadeb7 No.16884628
Well, this is not something I was expecting. Unrest has further increased.
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21785d No.16884698
>>16884366
New to the thread. pretty cool. i agree with anon lets hold on a bit more.
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2ec6d6 No.16884901
>>16884628
After seeing this, I'm leaning towards option 1. We don't want to suffer internal revolution.
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cadeb7 No.16885105
With the conservatives having sabotaged our attempts to divert naval funds for mo programs, as well as the papers spinning our attempt to stave off revolution with such headlines as "ADMIRAL ANON: A CUCK WHO ENJOYS SCHNITZEL?", it is clear France needs a decisive victory to lift her spirits. And on the 25th of October, a chance reveals itself. A significant German force is spotted leaving port and heading for our Northern coast. It is expected that they will be arriving sometime after the sun has set, so it is a prime chance to leverage our advantage in destroyers.
An advance force of cruisers and escorts leads the way, with the DD Fanion at the head, in fact quite rather far ahead the rest. At the narrowest part of the Channel, as she navigates the rather extensive minefields we have set up, unfamiliar shapes appear in the night. At first appearing like only a small number of ships, the numbers rapidly multiply, revealing a formation of capital ships and escorts, which rapidly open fire upon her. Within a minute of establishing , she is hit by a 3" HE round. The next minute, a 12" round enters her engine room and detonates. However, perhaps as a result of the sudden contact, the round was not a devastating HE shell but an AP variant and thus does not inflict fatal damage. Hopelessly outgunned and outnumbered, she launches her torpedoes and attempts to push through. Remarkably, no other round strikes her and she successfully breaks contact and is able to limp back to port.
Our cruiser force is next to meet the enemy. Even though this style of combat isn't their specialty, forcing the engagement here may very well work to out advantage as we try and keep the enemy within the vicinity of our minefields. Making contact, a close range flurry of gunfire is exchanged. Grichka Bogdanoff suffers quite badly, being struck with both 13 and 6 inch rounds, one of which destroys it's forward turret. Ignor Bogdanoff takes a similar amount of hits, but the majority of them are dud rounds that simply pass through the superstructure or hull without detonating. Finally, the last cruiser of the advance force, the brand new ship Suck My Sauerbraten suffers nearly identically in numerical hits, but luckily most of them hit non-vital areas.
The chaos of night combat becomes entirely apparent very quickly. Getting a coherent picture of what the fuck is happening can be very difficult and combat devolves into frantic maneuvering to avoid potential torpedo solutions and close-range gunfights cause ships to be rendered ineffective in an instant. A prime example of this confusion occurs, as the German battleship Helgoland passes between our cruisers, nearly colliding with them. As it does so, Suck My Sauerbraten launches a torpedo from her underwater tubes and successfully hits the Helgoland. Sinking this dreadnought may be the prize we've been looking for.
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cadeb7 No.16885124
But in night combat, the tables can turn at any time. Only a few minutes after striking the Helgoland, the same fate befalls Suck My Sauerbraten, as a torpedo launched by a German escort finds her. Even with her passive torpedo protection systems, the damage is far too great to survive. After only a few short months of service, Suck My Sauerbraten begins to slip beneath the waves.
In an attempt to finish what Suck My Sauerbraten began, our destroyers charge forward to deploy their torpedoes. But awaiting them is a screening force, including a German cruiser that excels in fighting destroyers. Withering fire pours from the escorts and our DDs are forced to pull back while our own capital ships try and close the distance and bring their big guns to bear. And in this they succeed, landing several hits at point blank range, while our destroyers use the cover offered by the large ships to land another torpedo on the Helgoland.
Meanwhile, a few miles South, the sister ship to Suck My Sauerbraten appears to wish to join her, as a momentary communication misunderstanding leads the ship to sail directly into a force of hostile ships, nearly colliding with several while raking a cruiser with 6" gunfire. But the German gunners fail to leverage this advantage, and Failed Art Student Extermination Vessel runs the gauntlet with only a pair of hits suffered to show for it. But she passes valuable information along, reporting a German battlecruiser largely isolated from the main force. This ship is quickly entrapped by our own large ships, with even our predreadnought force crossing the T and delivering punishing hits. A torpedo from DOCTEUR CONNOR'S CLASSE seals the deal, rupturing traverse bulkheads and causing massive flooding.
At this point, many of our destroyers are either damage or out of torpedoes, while a concrete understanding of how many ships the Germans have brought is still unclear. For all we know, an entire second division of battleships is lurking just out of sight. Tallying our successes, we have a battlecruiser confirmed sunk, a light cruiser similarly ravaged and a battleship we know has been struck by at least two torpedoes and close range 14" gunfire. It is difficult to imagine it making a return to Germany in such a state and so the engagement comes to a conclusion.
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cadeb7 No.16885134
The post battle results come in, and they are frustrating. The Helgoland, despite it's major damage, did make it back to Germany. Two of it's turrets were burnt out by rounds from Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres, but German torpedo protection is either quite good, or our torpedoes are lacking. In either case, we've once again paid for a lack of aggresiveness, letting a prime target survive severe damage when it had no right to. The German DD that was lost sunk when it struck a mine in the channel, although at that point it had already been significantly damaged. Still, even with the disappointment in not sinking the Helgoland, this is still a clear victory for France. News of a German raid being turned away and multiple German ships being sunk calms people somewhat, although protests against the war are still commonplace. The war has not been won here, but rather more time to fight it.
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5695e7 No.16885195
So can OP add download link to latest cracked version in next thread?
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cadeb7 No.16885480
A German sub puts one of our nicest cruisers in drydock for half a year, which will certainly be a source of annoyance for the next several months. Despite this, the next month the versatility of our BC is shown yet again, as a pair of German light cruisers are handily dispatched. I must express some surprise at how useful the ISS Acrebleu has proven Across the Atlantic, the United States launches their newest ship, the United States, which is not only the current largest ship, but also boasts the largest broadside in the world, with a full dozen 15" guns.
Having seen the worth of our destroyers at night, and having unlocked multiple tube mounts, should we lay down a new class of DD such as this?
>>16885195
Afraid I don't have a source for it, buyfag here. I can ask someone I know, but I have no idea how recent it will be.
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cadeb7 No.16885490
While we've yet to see aircraft pull of a succesful attack upon ships, the need to defend against future designs is more than obvious and we can now mount AA guns upon our ships. The conservative party manages to push through additional war funding, which further upsets the plebs. The Prime Minister seems to be leaning towards throwing in the towel, even though we have a significant advantage at this point.
Our response?
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909418 No.16885501
>>16885480
Absolutely.
>>16885490
>unrest 8
Shit nigger we better get out while we still have our head.
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8c0f41 No.16885503
>>16885480
Ten torpedoes is maybe a bit excessive. Let's delete the D/E mounts, bump up the main guns to 5" and spend any remaining weight on AA.
>>16885490
Fight to the end.
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e20444 No.16885532
>>16885503
Ten torps is a bit overkill, yeah, and the armament is a bit piddly. Go for this.
I'm a bit concerned what we'd stand to lose if we threw in the towel now, though.
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cadeb7 No.16885573
Our newest line of DDs is placed into production with an initial run of 5 ships. While peace talks falter, there is still hope coming through our intelligence services
>Intelligence report Germany: There are rumours of failing morale in the German fleet.
>Intelligence report Germany: There are rumours of mutinies in the German fleet.
Furthermore, a report of the German fleet leaving port and advancing towards Northern France prompts another large scale response. This time though, the Germans arrive in the late evening, before the sun sets. Early spotting reports by land based air units indicate a significant number of German capital ships, as well as some escorts. However, the sun sets and an early sweep seems to indicate the Germans left after only briefly sinking a merchant ship.
As our force begins to return to port, an unexpected sight comes into view. A lone ship, larger than any escort or cruiser, is making it's way nearly parallel to our own course. Destroyers react to engage this ship, which is identified as a battlecruiser of unknown class.
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cadeb7 No.16885720
Our destroyer forces engage, launching torpedoes at the intruder and a hit is rapidly scored. Our two armored cruisers, Jamal De Bourbon and Escargot Fuck Yourself move in to engage as well, trusting the close range will allow their 8" guns to penetrate at least some of the German ship's less armored sections. Each gun rings out rapidly, as our gun crews primarily focus on using HE rounds to devastate the upper sections of the hostile ship. The German gunners seem confused and ill-trained, and for several minutes there is simply no return fire from the stricken enemy vessel. But after about 10 minutes the enemy's secondary battery finally returns fire, and the effect is immediate.
At 8:10pm, a 6" round from the German battle-cruiser strikes the aft turret of Jamal De Bourbon. The armor piercing round penetrates the turret face and detonates within. Bags of shell propellant, being hoisted up from the ship's magazines, ignite. And a moment later, the Channel is illuminated by a massive explosion as Jamal De Bourbon is blown apart. That explosion and the immense fireball also reveals it's killer, the Hannover-class battle-cruiser Schleswig-Holstein.
As the ship is already listing due to the previous torpedo hit, our destroyers waste no time in closing in for another attack. In doing so, they reveal another German capital ship, the Lothringen-class battleship Schlesien. While yet undamaged, the slow speed of the German battleship means that at this range, it's lumbering and lethargic turns cannot easily avoid incoming torpedoes, and our DD Nigerrelle Faguette manages to put one into her.
Daring not to repeat the mistakes of our last battle, we close in to ensure both of these ships go to the bottom. No less than four torpedoes are placed on each one, with dozens of hits from guns at point blank range added on for good measure. Even when it seems obvious the ships are doomed, more is thrown at them to promise that we do not face them again.
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cadeb7 No.16885734
The results of the battle are a fantasic military victory, but the population is not feeling the same pride that our crews certainly are. Unrest is reaching even further now, and it may even be spreading to our sailors.
What is our reaction?
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cf7604 No.16885738
>>16885734
>44 months
It's probably time to wind this war down and keep the workers happy while we try to get Germany to surrender.
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d6a04d No.16885901
>>16885734
Lets go with option 3, we must stand strong and united.
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9f0d72 No.16885904
>>16885734
Whenever this war ends, It'd be nice to get a summary of all the ships we and the Germans have lost so far.
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cadeb7 No.16885958
So then, lets get the bad news out of the way. Despite our push for social reforms to placate the population, things only get worse. There is now open talk of violent revolution, and the impact is felt even at sea. Even with the reports that Germany is suffering the same situation, that is of little comfort when an angry populace is erecting guillotines in city squares.
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cadeb7 No.16885961
>>16885958
Now, the good news. Our intel agency pulls the documents for Japan's newest line of destroyers, not that that's of much use to us right now. But more importantly, the concept of a light aircraft carrier is finally considered worthwhile, just as our first torpedo bomber enters service.
>Morane Saulnier MS. 59 Torpedo Bomber
>Cruise speed: 62kts
>Range while carrying torpedo: 72 miles
>Average maneuverability and toughness, low firepower
Now, a question for some debate: what ships, if any, should we consider for conversion to an aircraft carrier? We have several predreadnought battleships that could carry up to 20 planes, but they are very slow and would require an expensive engine refit to be able to launch aircraft. Le Gros Penis is not considered an option, as a ship of such size is not deemed worthwhile to convert. We have the legacy cruisers of the Montcalm class, but while not requiring an engine refit they can only carry half the number of planes. The cruisers Escargot Fuck Yourself and Baguette Launcher are tempting options, as their relatively high speed and somewhat thinner armor means that they not only require no engine refit, but also can carry a similar 18-20 plane load. However, the downside to that option is that these ships are serious workhorses in our fleet.
So, what ships should we consider converting?
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cf7604 No.16886087
>>16885961
We could convert the cruisers and build a new line of cruisers to replace them. I don't think we ever refit them with our better 8 inch guns, did we?
Of course the legacy Bs aren't really doing much for us these days, if we don't choose to convert them we should probably decomission to save costs.
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8c0f41 No.16886311
>>16885961
Let's convert one B and scrap the rest.
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3922d3 No.16886755
>>16885961
I think we should just design a carrier from the ground up. We don't need one badly enough to take our proven valuable cruisers off the line, and this way we could have something purpose-built to launch aircraft as opposed to something that we jury-rigged to do so. I hope I'm not alone in wanting lots and lots of CVs
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8c0f41 No.16886773
>>16886755
We can't build new carriers just yet, only conversions. We also get a penalty to carrier research until our first carrier enters service, so we want to build at least one conversion just for research purposes.
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3922d3 No.16886776
>>16886773
Oh. Well, then why not just convert something we don't need just for research purposes then?
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8c0f41 No.16886797
>>16886776
That's exactly what we're discussing right now. With the exception of our two modern cruisers, all of the eligible ships are hopelessly obsolete and will probably be scrapped after the war ends. The only question now is if we want to go for a relatively cheap cruiser conversion that's almost useless outside of research, or a somewhat more expensive battleship conversion that might actually be useful in combat.
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d6a04d No.16886891
>>16885961
Take an old predread and refit the engine, it's expensive but also might be helpful in testing our planes more extensively.
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cadeb7 No.16886995
A more detailed look at our conversion options reveals something I previously overlooked: The Friedland-class predreadnought Trafalgar Was an Inside Job. While at first she seemed no more worthwhile than the other predreads of the Marango-class, a key detail made her more appealing: she was designed with a narrow belt. As a result, she spends considerably less weight on protection she is unlikely to use anymore. Her extensive former ammunition stores and engine rebuild leads to a ship that can carry a rather impressive 26 planes. She carries a set of 6" guns for self defense, as well as 16 heavy machine guns for disrupting enemy aircraft that try and attack her. In the event a torpedo bomber, submarine or destroyer makes a successful attack on her, she packs one last asset, a set of anti-torpedo bulges that, while they limit her to 21kts, will provide valuable protection.
At sea, we do have a rather strange occurrence. Our seaplane tender FUCK EUROPE MED WAR NOW intercepts a German raider. Normally, this would be a very bad situation for our tender, but in this case the raider is a small converted merchant ship, which is perhaps the only vessel a seaplane tender has a chance of sinking outside of coastal patrol vessels. And in the end it results in another ship lost for the German Navy.
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cadeb7 No.16887019
Perhaps the war is getting to the heads of naval crews, because strange things keep happening. A pair of our older light cruisers is patrolling when they receive a report of enemy raiders attacking a convoy. We set course for the scene of the reports, when suddenly we get another message from the convoy escorts: one of the merchant captains, clearly unwilling to let his complete lack of weapons to hinder his hatred of Germans, has somehow rammed a modern enemy cruiser with his cargo ship. How he managed to hit a ship capable of making over three times his maximum speed is a mystery, but as our ships arrive, one German cruiser is clearly moving slower than the other.
Our ships begin to move it to ward off the Germans, but the convoys escorts seem intent upon solving the problem themselves. One of the destroyers darts past the damaged German cruiser and fires a single torpedo with nearly perfect accuracy, striking the cruiser aft, destroying a turret and knocking out it's electrical power. At that point, there is little for our force to do other than swing by and pop a few extra rounds into the ship as the other German ship steams away at high speed.
Meanwhile, our fighter manufacturer introduces an improved model of our current aircraft. With a more efficient engine, improved firepower and the ability to carry a pair of small bomblettes, this represents a marked improvement in it's capabilities.
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cadeb7 No.16887261
Our unrest reaches to the utter breaking point, a result of over four years of war, merchant raiding and strife. But in October things finally come to a close. German revolutionaries storm the capital, with their comrades in the military backing them. The Kaiser is stripped from power, and in his place a communist regime takes hold. As part of the ensuing peace terms, we claim the new German battleship Rheinland, and may also seize nearly all of Germany's colonies. The similarities to the end of actual WW1, both in time frame and results, are unnerving.
Should we take colonies, or just take the 10 points as economic reparations.
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3922d3 No.16887289
>>16887019
>our cheese-eating merchants are getting into the war effort by ramming Krauts
I fucking love this.
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e20444 No.16887375
>>16887261
Can you take anything with oil?
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8c0f41 No.16887499
>>16887261
Take everything except Kiautschou Bay.
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cadeb7 No.16887632
The seizure of German colonies paints the map with French flags, which in the future may prove extremely helpful as basing becomes a greater issue. As the war comes to an end, so does the construction of our newest battlecruiser and seaplane tender. Given the massive budget cuts however, our budget still requires major readiness adjustments to keep within a reasonable margin. The scrapping of several outdated predreads frees up some though, and our armored cruisers armed with 8" guns are sent in for refits.
Of note is the pair of new capital ships Great Britain has commissioned, of the Howe-class. I'll let the design docs speak for themselves.
The next year passes by quite pleasantly, with quite little occurring. Our budget and fleet looks like this currently, is there anything we should focus on doing at the moment?
>>16887375
Unfortunately, it appears Germany lacked any oil resources as well.
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909418 No.16887671
>>16887632
Might be a good time to modernize our destroyer fleet.
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8c0f41 No.16887799
>>16887632
Looks like our CL and destroyer fleets are in pretty bad shape. Let's convert some of those old destroyers into dedicated anti-sub escorts (IIRC we don't really have any decent ASW boats at the moment) and start replacing those obsolete CLs.
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2ba1a6 No.16887810
Fuck the carriers,fuck the planes and fuck the extended timelines.
We finally get to place ==SIX== lines son
But seriously,there is no way im gonna dish out 35 european pesos for a carrier addon on base game,even though first one was delicious and I got my money's worth. Any chance of download in future?
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cadeb7 No.16888063
The oldest ships in our destroyer lineup are taken in hand, with one of their torpedo tubes being replaced with additional depth charges for ASW-work. The plans for our most recent CL design, the Dick Cheese Greater than Cheese-class, are reworked to incorporate modern tech such as forward superimposed turrets and weight saving machinery. We should have a working design for an updated model in the next couple months.
Now, at the beginning of the year, it appears that Italy is getting nosy into our aircraft. Should we make a big deal out of it?
>>16887671
>>16887799
It is worth mentioning that that screen failed to grab our more modern DDs, of which we have a rather decent amount of.
>>16887810
My friend who said he was playing off a cracked version says he can't access the Russian torrent anymore, afraid I don't know much beyond that.
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cadeb7 No.16888092
>>16888063
Probably should include current tension levels.
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fdfd46 No.16888237
>>16888063
Well damn.Thanks for the info anyway anon.
Here's some ship tism' as thanks
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9f0d72 No.16888747
>>16887632
Yarr, the Americans be making ghost battleships.
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c7bf11 No.16888771
>>16888237
>unspoilered porn
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60364b No.16888808
Looking at picking up a copy of this today, going to ensure Britannia rules the waves
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cadeb7 No.16889144
Apologizes, 8kun ate my last post right before I left. Our intel service pulls an improved invasion transport boat out from the Austrians of all people. Our new class of CL is laid down in a set of three ships, with very similar stats to our last one, but with an improved turret layout. And as those ships begin their construction, our carrier conversion hits the waves. I've chosen to equip it with an air group consisting of two 10-plane squadrons of torpedo bombers, and a 6-plane squadron for Close Air Patrol.
Despite our new CLs being under construction, the budget is looking pretty good. Should we also lay down a new armored cruiser like this design?
>>16888747
Usually that's the result of the game not counting ships in refit as being in either active service or construction.
>>16888808
Good luck to you, I've never played a game as Great Britain or the US.
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9f0d72 No.16889150
>>16889144
That CA design looks nice. 12x8" guns should let it tear apart anything that's a CA or smaller. Excelllent speed, too. I notice our unrest is at 7 now; how fast is it dropping? I feel like we'll get involved in another war with the gommunist Germans soon enough.
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cf7604 No.16889159
>>16889144
What kind of penetration do our various guns have at this point?
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cadeb7 No.16889222
Our gun manufacturers report a series of improvements to their capabilties, including the option of us now going as large as 18" guns. Germany, meanwhile, has launched their newest capital ship, which has a rather unusual design. Now, there are two choices that need to be made.
First off, what is our response to the question of our most likely enemy in a future war?
Secondly, we have the option of implementing "Elite Pilot Training". Doing so will model our naval air forces after the WW2-era Japanese type, resulting in an extremely strict standard for pilot cadets. As a result, our pilots will be of the utmost quality and skill. This however has a significant disadvantage: pilot losses in wartime will be much harder to replace. In the event of an elongated war or in the aftermath of a battle which causes us to incur heavy losses, we may find ourselves without quality crews.
This choice has some gravity to it, because once "Elite Pilot Training" is selected, it cannot be undone.
Also the name pool has run dry.
>>16889150
Unrest has been falling, but very slowly.
>>16889159
To reference our most commonly used calibers only:
>5" gun, 4.3" at 5,000yds, 2.2 at 10,000yrds
>8" gun, 9.2" at 5,000yds, 6.6 at 10,000yrds, 4.4 at 15,000yrds
>14" gun, 15" at 5,000yrds, 12.3 at 10,000yrds, 10 at 15,000yrds, 8.3 at 20,000yrds
<14" gun deck penetration, 2.9" at 20,000yrds, 2" at 15,000yrds
>15" gun, 16.2" at 5,000yrds, 12.9" at 10,000yrds, 11" at 15,000yrds, 9.3 at 20,000yrds
<15" gun deck penetration, 3" at 20,00yrds, 2.3" at 15,000yrds
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8c0f41 No.16889229
>>16889222
We can probably expect the next war to be another huge drawn-out conflict, so elite training seems like a pretty bad idea.
As for our next enemy, it's obviously going to be Japan.
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909418 No.16889253
>>16889222
Those fucking dagos have been cruising for another kicking
No. We're French, not autistic.
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5522ad No.16889286
>>16888771
L-lewd
>>16889222
Check'd
>Also the name pool has run dry.
Got some,dont know if some where alreay used though.
The Napoleon Complex
French Revolution Was A Mistake
Party Like It's 1800's
No Niggers In MY Paris
Fromage Blindé
My Guns Are Not The Only 16' On This Ship
Richelieu Did Nothing Wrong
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cadeb7 No.16889560
Quick update: a new CA is laid down, and new DD tech makes it appealing to create a new class, of which we lay down 4.
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9f0d72 No.16889601
>>16889222
Dien Bien Phuck You
Fire Ze Missiles
Hot Crossed Guns
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cdac04 No.16889641
>>16889286
We have a history of protracted wars for massive profit so I'd advise against elites.
>Also the name pool has run dry.
gotcha covered bruh
>Lapoutine Machine
>NapoopaN BonappanoB
>Le Madman Absolut
>Dominique >(You)
>L'Onnanisme du L'Olonnais
>ITIWIT Inflatable Kayak by Decathlon TM
>Fatal Poisson
>We Actually Shat On The Kaiser
>My Grandkids Will Found Ubisoft, Sorry Bout That
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cadeb7 No.16889759
Germany is getting uppity again, this time trying to occupy the island of Iceland. Even having stripped them of their most modern battleship of the time, they're still quite strong. It would seem that they've given up entirely on the concept of armored cruisers, choosing again to focus on large capital ships, improving their DD forces and building up a larger submarine force.
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6ee65e No.16889786
>>16889759
You know what to do anon.
Also got some more
Mein Kampf Belongs In The Comedy Section
Paris To Berlin In One Ship
20.000t Of Love
Voulez-Vous Une Guerre Totale?
Reap The Whirlwind
Schleiff plan? Scheise Plan.
I would love to see the Russian playtrough next.Shit's hard yo
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cadeb7 No.16889814
Less than two years later and we're on the brink of another Franco-German war, and this time our unrest is at 7 to begin with. Should we push things further, or begin to try and cool it down?
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8c0f41 No.16889830
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6ee65e No.16889859
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cadeb7 No.16889928
As expected, fighting erupts along the border with the Krauts. At sea, our first action end with no actual combat, as our land-based search planes fail to spot a German raiding force and our own never meets them. We do however, get to see some our pilots getting some CAP practice in.
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9f0d72 No.16889988
>>16889759
We should have let them take Iceland just so we could take it as reparations later. Would be great to see torpedo bombers taking off from that island to harass the British when we finally get around to fighting them.
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cadeb7 No.16890175
A month into the war and Germany's U-boat force is already showing it's worth, sinking a fair number of our ships. We may want to put in an order to convert some civilian vessels into ASW escorts to blunt the impact.
But on the surface war, things are still adapting to the implementation of aircraft. In the North Sea a cruiser force of ours, accompanied by our CVL, receives a report of enemy activity. Scout floatplanes and some aircraft from our carrier confirm the sighting, and we launch our first true airstrike, a group of 8 MS.59 C's. Passing over the horizon, they soon find and engage the enemy force. Enemy anti-aircraft guns open up on them as they approach, not only rapid fire light AA guns, but also air-bursting HE rounds. Despite our plane's best efforts, no hits are scored on the German ships. While this is taking place, our second squadron launches from the carrier, but due to a poor reading of the German's course this strike never finds it's target.
As our cruisers approach the culprits for the air-bursting rounds becomes clear, new Kondor-class DDs, equipped with dual-purpose guns capable of engaging both sea and air targets. At the center of the group of DDs is a small German seaplane tender. These DDs are nothing like the V1-classes we fought in the last war. While they may be slower and more lightly armed than our own DDs, their dual triple torpedo tubes means that they can pose a serious threat to our larger ships. And indeed, it appears that the Germans have learned from our last war and aggressively utilize sweeping motions to force our cruisers to keep their distance. Long-range gunfire occasionally scores a hit or near miss, but the engagement is looking rather inconclusive.
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cadeb7 No.16890202
It is about then that our first torpedo bomber squadron returns to our carrier. While enemy flak and landing accidents have rendered the squadron to only 6 airworthy planes, this is still enough to form a strike. Using updated enemy courses, these six planes are rapidly refueled, rearmed and take flight. Soon they make contact with their target and make their attack. Enemy fire once again comes up to greet them, although none of it manages to hit our attack planes. The German seaplane tender is however forced to turn hard to avoid incoming torpedoes, and it is this sudden change in course and loss of speed that makes the difference. The unarmored ship is forced to enter our effective gun range and our cruisers quickly seize upon that fact. The Brockeswalde is quickly brought under fire and destroyed. At that point the rest of the German force splits off and retreats.
Whereas the first month of war was a bountiful harvest for the German U-boat menace, this month is not so good. A passenger liner is torpedoed by a German submarine, causing many of the other nations of the world to issue declarations of condemnation. Meanwhile, our engineers feel confident in utilizing Unit Machinery in new design, with vital components of the engines are more spread out along the length of the ship. The effect of this is, for a minor increase in engine weight, the ship will suffer less speed lost for hits to the engine and machinery spaces.
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cadeb7 No.16890215
Well, this is rather unexpected. After only another small skirmish in which a pair of German DDs were sunk, they're dangling a peace offer at us?
Should we meet them halfway, or trying and drag it out?
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2ec6d6 No.16890222
>>16890215
We're still at 5 unrest, I would like some peacetime for reconstruction and testing the CVL in the med.
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9f0d72 No.16890225
>>16890215
A three month war to steal money from the Germans sounds just fine. Like >>16890222 said, that 5 unrest is a bit of an issue.
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8c0f41 No.16890234
>>16890222
>>16890225
Counterpoint: We're barely hanging on financially, if we end the war now we'll end up deep in the red. Let's try to drag out the war for a few more months.
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83134e No.16890249
Uderzo died recently, but I'm still trying to come up with a ship name that makes him justice. The best I can come up with is
>* STILL THE BEST 2020
F
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83134e No.16890259
>>16890215
There's absolutely no way any of their metrics is better than ours this soon, press for harder terms at the very least. Reality will knock them off this salty runback soon enough.
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cadeb7 No.16890275
Peace negotions are scuttled by the conservative party, who won't fight to get us funding during peacetime but will certainly keep us in a war for it. In an effort to end this war quickly, or at least give us a major advantage, we accept a full-fledged fleet battle. Now, the Germans have continued to focus their efforts primarily upon their capital ship construction, so they still have a major edge there. But we have an active carrier, with two squadrons of torpedo bombers. This battle will likely be messy, but it will prove a test to see just how effective a combined arms fleet will be versus a traditional battle line.
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a79383 No.16890514
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9f0d72 No.16890610
>>16890275
Looks like they have a bunch of land based aircraft to fight our carrier force.
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cadeb7 No.16890883
As our carrier launches her strike aircraft, things take a turn for the worse. A torpedo, most certainly launched from a German U-boat, strikes our light cruiser Galilee. An older design without built-in torpedo protection, the size of modern torpedo warheads means she is instantly declared lost. A poor start to this engagement, but the loss of Galilee is not a critical factor.
Meanwhile, our first wave of torpedo bombers arrives on target. Nine MS.59s make their attack runs on enemy ships. Sporadic enemy fire rises to meet them, but our pilots report that they've scored at least one hit on an enemy cruiser. A second strike fails to find their target, and for some time our carrier has little to do.
It is decided at that time to have our large seaplane tender lend her floatplanes to the fray. While her aircraft act as the fleet's main scouting element, she still has 18 of them standing by. They can only carry a 100lb bomb, but since they are currently sitting idle they are called into service. It takes some time to offload them, but soon a full 18-aircraft strike is sent towards the German port of Emden. The pilots spend some time circling the area, but soon report seeing two German capital ships, with escorts, entering the harbor. Our seaplanes attempt a series of level bombing attacks and report a rather impressive three hits on target.
From this point the engagement fails to impress. Despite sweeping the German coast, no further contacts are reported and eventually a retreat is ordered. On the way back, another German U-boat makes a successful attack upon one of our DDs, but she manages to survive.
The end of battle results show that the German ship Hanover was the victim of our torpedo bomber strike AND our seaplane strike. While the torpedo strike caused heavy damage, the damage was eventually sorted out. Our seaplanes were a bit optimistic with their reports, as it turns out only one of their bombs actually hit.
>>16890514
Sorry, I posted that update at almost 4AM and was dead tired.
>>16890610
True, but it shouldn't be a big factor this early in time, with the short ranges and slow speeds of current aircraft.
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3ebc0b No.16890932
>be me
>have a job which contributes nothing to society
>this means I can work from home
>let this thread auto update in the background
>check every couple of hours for wartime updates
>always enjoy reading the details of battles as they play out
thanks OP, today you're not a fag
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e3b14a No.16890965
>>16890883
>Sorry, I posted that update at almost 4AM and was dead tired.
It's O.K anon,keep us posted whenever you can,I enjoy reading these posts. Due to the quarantine its not like we're gonna go anywhere.
Plus your post and this thread is comfy as fuck.
Collage is out,gym is out,can't hang around with friends so I'm bored out of my mind.I've done noting but do push ups,shitpost,play Freelancer and sketch shit on GTablet.
How are you guys faring?
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c18cef No.16890979
>>16890965
Kind of angry. I was supposed to do a semester abroad in Germany, and be there for 5 months. I got shafted because of the Chinese flu. I was only there for 10 days. I want to go back soon, but it's going to be sometime before the virus clears up. I kind of took a break from exercising too, lost the mood for it.
This thread is entertaining, helps me pass the time in self-quarantine. I have no skill for RTS, can't even get past the start most time, feels too overwhelming and I just have no clue where to go with it. I also have no skill for designing ships.
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e3b14a No.16890993
>>16890979
Holy shit man, actually same here.Went to Nitra in Slovakia as exchange student was there for 9 days,got back to my country day before quarantine. Yeah,not the same without weights and the gym,when you go to the gym you go into the right minset
Kung flu kinda fucked us both.
>This thread is entertaining, helps me pass the time in self-quarantine. I have no skill for RTS, can't even get past the start most time, feels too overwhelming and I just have no clue where to go with it. I also have no skill for designing ships.
Game is acually very entertaining,you can pirate first one like I did,I bought it later because I really like it. And its not that complicated to desing ship because you have to do it in certain parameters that are easy to follow.
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c18cef No.16891004
>>16890993
It sure as hell did, I tried to convince myself it was just a minor flu and would pass to keep myself sane. I knew deep down it was about to blow up, I just didn't wanna admit it. Germany seriously blew the US out of the water, I know it's kind of cucked, but I would like to stay there for a while. At least the government is open about it, we pretend we have lots of freedoms in the US, but none of that is in practice. I'm sure I'll get back into working out soon, I started my exercises with just push ups and crunches during the week.
I actually pirated the game a super long time ago, I need to get into it. I shouldn't be a lazy nig and just look up tutorials on how to do things in the game. I haven't a clue on how to move the damn ships, to be honest.
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e3b14a No.16891018
>>16891004
Same here,Why the fuck should we be wasting away doing absolutley nothing just because some slant eyed,rice slurping fuck wanted to put a fucking bat in his soup.Fuck.
Try It man,good for killing some time
.I use Shift click or Ctrl click depending on situation.It really can be entertaining like in OP's post.
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c18cef No.16891035
>>16891018
I've been completely unproductive in the time of self-quarantine right now, thank God it's almost over. Learned no German, just binge-watched my friend simulators like Seinfeld and Vinesauce.
I really outta give it a go. I am going to have so much free time. I still have tons upon tons of backlog of game too.
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9994e3 No.16891075
>>16891018
>still repeating the "IT'S A BAT GOYIM" meme
Holy fucking christ, you retarded faggot. The CCP government even admitted it was a lie. The goddamn thing was a bioweapon which escaped from the L4 Wuhan lab.
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cadeb7 No.16891579
Our battle-cruiser Voulez-Vous Mourir Avec Moi Ce Soir, accompanied by a pair of light cruisers and several escorts, encounters an enemy battleship and escorts in the North Sea. At first, it appears to be a Helgoland-class dreadnought. Upon closer examination, however, it is revealed to actually be the Ostfriesland-class battle-cruiser Goeben. What follows is a straight-up duel, as the escorts of either sides prevent aggressive action by either side. Our BC manages to land the first hit, and post-battle results will show that this round penetrated the conning tower and killed off most of Goeben's command staff in the opening volley. As a result, the German gunnery is severely hampered for the remainder of this battle, especially when combined with the fact that the German battle-cruiser utilizes an outdated fire-control system.
Still, the German proves frustratingly difficult to destroy, with his ship remaining afloat and capable of making a slow but steady speed even after Voulez-Vous Mourir Avec Moi Ce Soir empties her entire forward turrets ammunition stockpiles and is down to ten rounds for her aft guns. Her offensive capabilities are wrecked, with three of her four turrets burned out by shell impacts. By this point night has begun to fall, so our DDs are given their chance. Normally a target on the run like the Goeben would be much more difficult to take down nowadays, due to improved secondary aiming methods, but many of those guns are out of service due to the long battle. Even torpedoes the German BC seems with withstand, and it is only after four of them impacting the ship does she finally give in and begin to sink.
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cadeb7 No.16891588
We get a new model of floatplane scout, one capable of carrying a bomb that can do more than maybe knock out an unarmored gun turret. Furthering our carrier research, we can now build light aircraft carriers (limits: 16,000t, 34planes). An option I would also throw out there is converting our large seaplane tender into a light carrier of it's own. And finally, it would seem the Germans have begun to give up on the idea of sacrificing gun caliber for number of barrels, as their new design goes for rather few, but very powerful guns.
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9f0d72 No.16891593
>>16891579
>>16891588
>germans still using casemates for secondaries in the year of our lord 1920
Disgusting. The krauts should be wiped from the earth.
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8c0f41 No.16891594
>>16891588
Would you mind posting the specs of all our current planes? I'm curious just how good those new floatplanes are.
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cadeb7 No.16891597
Last update, just a make up of our force for this large attack upon a German merchant convoy.
>>16891594
Aircraft stats here, as well as current estimates on German aircraft.
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bd8a10 No.16891658
>>16891035
Same here man,And I fucking hate it,but theres nothing else to do
>>16891579
Neat pickoff. How useful are planes overall?
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cadeb7 No.16892799
With dusk approaching quickly, a mostly blind strike is launched. This fails to find anything, but our force continues to follow the suspected path of the German convoy. With some luck, we actually manage to intercept the trailing edge of the merchant ships and a fair number are badly damaged and sunk. But the appearance of German DDs uncomfortably close to our capital ships gives us reason to back off, take what we can get and call it a day.
Or at least that's what would happen, but our cruiser Failed Art Student Extermination Vessel loses contact with our forces. Separated from the other ships and not knowing that our forces have retreated from the attack, she moves forward to attack the next section of the convoy. At first, this appears to be alright, as she begins hitting several more merchants. Then an entire enemy battle line emerges from the darkness, and the results speak for themselves.
The Germans offer peace again, although on much more equal terms this time. Our unrest has actually decreased quite a bit recently, most likely due to victories at sea as well as propaganda the civil duty to destroy gommunism that all French people feel.
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cadeb7 No.16892809
>>16891658
At this point, aircraft fall into essentially two categories: neat, somewhat useful but overall unimpressive tools (seaplane scouts, flying boats, airships), or one-shot weapons that might turn a battle, or might do nothing at all (torpedo bomber strikes). There qualities are mostly a result of the aircraft of the day being slow, short range and with unimpressive bomb loads.
>tfw have to get back in the wagie cagie tomorrow and get coofed on
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2ec6d6 No.16892848
>>16892799
Maybe we should squeeze out some reperations. Our carrier seems to be doing ok, all we need now is time to aquire experience for everyone involved. Our main fleet seems to be having communication problems lately, we should improve that.
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dc0885 No.16893254
>>16892809
>one-shot weapons that might turn a battle, or might do nothing at all
So like early destroyers from RTW1?
I tend to almost not use them at all untill mid game,just for ASW/CP untill 1910's when they get that sweet,sweet torp range and damage.
I once had a game when I ran into British 4 BB and 3 BC with my destroyer screen on night/rain time. I proptly continued to laugh to the bank as I traded 6 DD for all 4 BB and 3 BC.I did lost 1 BC and few CL/CA with several other capitals and escorts damaged.mfw when
>tfw have to get back in the wagie cagie tomorrow and get coofed on
ouch
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cadeb7 No.16893266
The war will continue on. Across the sea, the US commissions the Ticonderoga-class battlecruiser, the first of five.
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d2b3b1 No.16893287
>>16891593
Hey, now, Casemates are actually incredibly viable even late game if you know what you're doing with them.
Just not with that armor.
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cadeb7 No.16893886
Will have a pretty big update tomorrow, but poor planning means I can't get it out tonight.
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cadeb7 No.16894828
It's February 19th off the Northern coast of France, when one of our airship scouts performing a recon sweep discovers what appears to be a large portion of the German Navy making it's way towards the shoreline, obviously hoping to disrupt our activities. While the weather is a bit hazy and a steady breeze in the air, this is still good enough weather to conduct air operations and the prospect of catching the majority of Germany's capital ship force in perfect airstrike position is far too good to pass up. From the Airbase at Dunkerque launches a dozen torpedo bombers, as well as several flying boats loaded with bombs. The nearby airship base sends their remaining airships up as well, hoping that their high level bombing will strike true. And about a sixty miles to the West, two flights of ten torpedo bombers take off from the carrier Trafalgar Was An Inside Job, as well as a pair of fighter carrying small bomblets on their wings.
It is just past eleven that the aircraft begin arriving. The first few attacks turn up nothing in terms of hits, but at about half past reports start flooding in of nearly a half-dozen successful torpedo strikes on target. Now, pilot reports are notoriously optimistic both in-game and in reality, but such a report must mean at least some hits were scored. With this hope, our main force, consisting of most of our own battle line, moves in to engage the German raiding force. Leading the charge is a pair of our destroyers Poignard and Fanion, who position themselves ahead of the Krauts for a torpedo attack. Rather phenomenally, Fanion manages to fire three of her fish and land a hit on both of the Hannover-class battleships. The German force, realizing at that point that while they may have more capital ships in the fight, they are on the back foot, begin turning back to the North.
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cadeb7 No.16894872
Our battle line begins to engage the retreating German force. A reminder that cruisers have no place in this fight comes quickly, as Baguette Launcher takes two hits that severely harm her, leading to the armored cruiser division being withdrawn. Our main battle line fares much better and the fighting grows heated, with each side exchanging full broadsides with one another. It is rather difficult to properly give the events in a compelling storyline, as the geographical limitations and rough seas mean that the battle largely consists of each side sailing in the only real direction available while firing at one another.
Our forces do have a major advantage though, as the short range to airbases or their carrier means that the attacking aircraft have a quick turnaround, able to be refueled and rearmed in short order. Earlier I said that torpedo bombers of this age were a "one-shot" weapon. That statement assumes a strike launched at long range and against an uncertain target, neither of which is the case here. Throughout the day our aircraft manage to make roughly three separate strikes, each one bringing reports of more hits. German ships are seen falling out of line, limping along or with burned out turrets.
Despite this, the Germans still have plenty of fight left in them. Essentially none of our battleships are left unharmed, as German shells match our own nearly hit for hit. Both Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres and De Gaulle Fucked Eva Braun First have turrets knocked out, while almost every other ships takes hits from the German's main guns. Our generally solid armor means that most of these hits fail to penetrate the main armor belts, only capable of getting through the weaker spots. Of course, that almost certainly means the same must be true on the German's side, as they usually armor their ships just as well.
But German guns are not the only threat. About half past two in the afternoon, a German destroyer manages to loose a volley of torpedoes at our battle line. One of these strikes our battleship Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres, detonating against an engine room and slowing the ship considerably. Attempts are made to slow the entire battle line to accommodate her, but roughly twenty minutes later another torpedo strikes her, this time beneath her superimposed forward gun, knocking it loose from it's turret ring and rendering it useless for the rest of the battle. With Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres essentially crippled, she is detached and sent to seek refuge along the British coast, the only area nearby where her safety seems sure.
But safety seems to be something that doesn't actually exist, as nearly a hundred miles to the West, the damaged cruiser Baguette Launcher suddenly spots a trio of torpedoes in the water coming for her. Despite her attempts to dodge them, one strikes home, causing severe flooding. While she eventually gets the damage contained, it is another reminder of the threat the German U-boat menace poses.
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cadeb7 No.16894901
With dusk setting and ammunition running low, a series of destroyer attacks are made upon the German ships in view. These prove somewhat disappointing, as the sea roughness prevents our DDs from making good speed. Nevertheless, when night finally falls it is clear we've won a major victory. While actually witnessing German capital ships sinking beneath the waves largely didn't happen, the amount of reported torpedo strikes and gunfire laid into crippled ships leaves little doubt.
After nightfall our wounded ship Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres begins making her way towards the French coast for shelter. The battle has long past this area, so it would seem safe for her to make the journey, even without escorts that had been reassigned to the main battle. But at half past six, a German destroyer, the Luchs come into view in a textbook torpedo attack position. The German ship is quite badly damaged, in fact only capable of making about 12kts. But that slowness is what led to the ship being in this position, so far behind the scene of the battle and directly in Shitposteurs Sans Frontiere's path. With no time to react, Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres takes another torpedo and it is this one that is fatal. Ten minutes later, as evacuations are taking place, another torpedo from Luchs impacts her, making sure she sinks this day.
Thus ends the battle, likely the most significant one to date. To tally up losses:
German losses:
>BB Mackensen, 31,600t, mostly damaged by gunfire, fires raged out of control and forced her to be abandoned
>BB Lothringen, 21,200t, sunk by airstrike launched by our carrier
>BB Posen, 21,200t, sunk by combination of land and sea-based airstrikes as well as gunfire
>BB Hannover, 18,300t, struck by destroyer launched torpedoes, lost mostly due to leaks in it's aging structure
>BB Westfalen, 18,300t, struck by destroyer launched torpedo, finished with gunfire
>DD Falke and Seeadler, sunk by defensive fire from our DDs/BBs
Worth mentioning:
>BB Worth, 32,800t, crippled by land-based airstrike, retreated before battle joined and survived to return to Germany
French losses:
>BB Shitposteurs Sans Frontieres, 26,800t, sunk by destroyer torpedoes
>DD Glaive, Fanfare, Plus de vingt tonnes de vagin et de bout, Guillotin Sur la Mer, lost to gunfire
>2 merchants and a patrol boat
Air group reports:
>Land based torpedo bombers: 3 hits
>Carrier torpedo bomber squadron #1: 6 hits
>Carrier torpedo bomber squadron #2: 6 hits
>Carrier fighter squadron: 1 hit
Sunk ship logs: https://pastebin.com/40YkUKRy
Damaged ship logs: https://pastebin.com/vjpeL0yc
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cadeb7 No.16894947
March is much quieter, with the only significant even a pair of our cruisers intercepting and sinking a German light raider. Come the start of April though, the Germans are once again approaching us with an offer of peace.
Should we accept, or try and push them even harder?
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cf7604 No.16894961
>>16894947
Show no mercy to le Kraut. He is an escargot in human clothing.
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8c0f41 No.16894967
>>16894947
I'd be willing to accept hard terms, I don't think the krauts have that many resources left to take.
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c7bf11 No.16894980
>>16891075
>ur a retard
It can be both. The disease was originally isolated in the wild from a tick on a bat 2-3 years ago from somewhere in SouthWestern China, before being weaponized with the intent of wiping out Taiwan and/or Hong Kong, but breached containment due to bugman incompetence, as the lab personnel were fucking selling the tested on lab animals, including bats, to the Wuhan wet market for extra cash. Polite sage because OT.
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cadeb7 No.16895011
10 months is enough to end the war, with some serious reparations. Should we split our concessions between taking Kiautschou Bay and economic reparations, or just take the reparations outright?
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baeb40 No.16895060
>>16895011
If they keep that one colony, then they will have to divert some of their resources there, giving us a small advantage, or rather them a disadvantage. Therefore we should go for full reperations.
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9f0d72 No.16895071
>>16895011
Taking that territory makes war with Japan seem much more likely.
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cadeb7 No.16895211
In the aftermath of the war, several of our capital ships are sent into dockyards to be refitted with improved fire control systems, more modern artillery and anti-aircraft guns. A pair of obsolete armored cruisers are marked for scrap, but one is instead re-purposed for research purposes. Following that, one of our spies manages to advance our hull construction methods, thanks to German engineering. Continuing our tech advances, we can now mount twin guns on our CLs specifically, light cruisers who utilize non-protected cruiser layouts, which does have the awkward effect of essentially making our entire modern line of CLs kind of obsolete. Our ships also unlock even more advanced fire control, meaning they'll be going right back in for FC refits. But then ANOTHER advance hits, with better quality 14" guns being made.
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cadeb7 No.16895215
>>16895211
This puts us in a rather awkward position, as we can now either send several of our capital ships in for refits to their main guns, which could cost us quite a bit, or we could begin construction of all-new ships. We are relatively competitive in the world all told, but we could try and secure that edge through additional construction or honing what ships we already have.
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8c0f41 No.16895266
>>16895211
You should be able to replace 6" singles with twins during a refit. The Bastille Bastards would probably be a good candidate for this.
>>16895215
We can hold off on building any more capital ships at the moment. Let's focus on getting rid of those old protected cruisers, they're costing us a fortune to maintain.
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cadeb7 No.16895272
Another series of technology advances pour in. We can now convert any ship to a full-fledged carrier, as well as having improved 15" guns and the ability to quad-mount our torpedo tubes. Our airships will now also be escorted by a pair of parasite fighters.
In any case, we have a ton of money available, and the socialists look like they want some of it for gibs.
Last post for tonight, suggest any fleet expansions or decisions
>>16895266
seen and noted
>>16882210
I actually never saw this before just now, quite good
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9b3a4d No.16895539
>>16895272
As much as I want to launch them thru a torpedo tube, we gotta be respectful. If they stay in power we want them to collaborate with us
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8c0f41 No.16895824
>>16895272
Let's give the socialists some free helicopter airship rides, then look into converting some of our older capitals into CVs. I'm thinking the Napoli and ISS Acrebleu would be good candidates.
>>16895539
>trusting leftists
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cadeb7 No.16896029
After some consideration, our battlecruiser ISS Acrebleu is taken into dock to be converted to an aircraft carrier. This decision is largely motivated the fact that very few nations utilize armored cruisers anymore, instead opting to go for larger battlecruisers. As a result, the armament and protection of the ISS Acrebleu is insufficient to do much of anything. Her already fast speed makes her a good candidate, as well as providing her with some agility that might be useful if she comes under air attack. It is decided not to add torpedo bulges to her, but this could be done in the future if desired.
Germany commissions the Seydlitz, a very fast ship with some quite powerful guns, although rather few of them.
And finally, after some political turmoil in the Balkans, the Prime Minister manages to make things worse. Should we step in to say something?
>>16895824
Unfortunately, the Napoli is shit in yet another way. It can't be retrofitted to make enough speed to be a CV, and it's too large to be classified as a CVL.
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cadeb7 No.16896241
Our armored cruisers are sent into rebuilds to increase their speed to 29kts, bringing them in line with our newest model, the Bruix-class. At the request of the naval minister, we also lay down 10 new DDs, armed with a large complement of torpedoes and guns, although they are somewhat slower than our earlier models. Tensions have been rising, although rather evenly.
Now, with the tensions at the levels they're at, should we protest the liberal proposal of reducing arms spending?
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9b3a4d No.16896397
>>16896241
How are they gonna install their dillation booths if ze germans come again and rain shells down on them?
Fuck the cunts, we need the money
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9f0d72 No.16896846
I'm still surprised by how well our early torpedo bombers did. Did we have variable tech on for this campaign?
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17e661 No.16897047
Yo, is there a link to the gaym?
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378210 No.16897100
>>16896241
Ignore the bastards. More funding, as always.
Incidentally I want to throw a few names into the pot if it's open:
>Marxist Mangler
>Le Rosbif
>This Machine Fucks Communism
>Torpedo Tubes to the Bolshevik Rubes
>1001 Avignon Nights
>Les Bains?
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cadeb7 No.16897127
In a rather unusual twist, we receive a demonstration of a new type of aircraft, a medium bomber, far in advance of the type typically arriving.While they'll be rather inaccurate now, we can use these to dramatically improve our land-based strike range.
Tensions across Europe have been quite high, so it comes as some surprise when one of these powers, Great Britain of all nations, comes to us with an offer of an alliance. While it's possible this could net us a powerful ally, those talks might well fall through. Alternatively, we could try and use this as a chance to push for lowered tensions and perhaps some disarmament. Or we could tell them to go fuck themselves.
Which shall it be?
>>16896846
It's worth mentioning that the German battleships in the major action were all rather slow, had no air cover of their own and only sparse AA. Our planes on the other hand only had to make short trips to and from their launching points, allowing them to make a total of three or so attacks during the battle.
>>16897100
Added.
>>16897047
I'm afraid the only thing I can offer is the demo, which is 1920-1925 as Japan or UK. I used to have an image which contained the entire RtW1 game, but the only source for RtW2 is an older version on some Russian torrent site I don't have a link for.
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378210 No.16897136
>>16897127
Ally the brits. There's a new source of evil on the continent and that is bolshevik Germany. The perfidious pastaniggers are also getting uppity too.
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cadeb7 No.16897144
Talks with Great Britain fall through, but the general spirit of cooperation does lower our tensions with them somewhat. Their population on the Falkland Islands, however, comes to the sudden realization that the islands are and always will be Argentinian and unite to force out the British invaders and bring Las Malvinas. I'm certain the discovery of oil on these islands had nothing to do with this. On the tech front, we gain the ability to mount heavy anti aircraft guns on our ships. For a substantial weight increase, any single-turreted 3 or 4 inch gun can also provide AA fire.
With tensions as high as they remain, a conflict in China could push things to the breaking point with German, Austria or Italy. What should we do?
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9f0d72 No.16897152
>>16897144
Voting for a Third War of German Spanking.
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378210 No.16897176
>>16897144
Commie Germans still need to be put in their place. Until the rivers run red with kraut blood our job is not done.
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cadeb7 No.16897278
Indian oil is discovered, which by my count raises Great Britain's oil count to 3 territories. We can now utilize box magazine protection, which essentially means the ammo mags gets full protection, while the rest of the belt is halved. Thus, we can secure our ship from ammo detonations while keeping weight low.
But while the European mainland is starting to slowly calm, we could make an aggressive action. Should we try and take Bermuda?
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cf7604 No.16897290
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8c0f41 No.16897291
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3922d3 No.16897293
Name our next carrier the Gros Mec Pour Toi.
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cadeb7 No.16897314
Our occupation succeeds, giving us a rare foothold off the coast of America. Were a war to break out with the US, this could serve as a forward basing area to conduct operations around these waters. Of course, this action does alarm much of the rest of the world, with both Germany and Italy issuing strong statements of condemnation and with their respective armed services going on full alert. But while our Empire grows, it appears the British one is declining. In tech news, we can now build 1,500t DDs, which will quite dramatically improve what they are capable of doing.
Finally, it would appear March may be the time we go to war with Italy once again. Shall we?
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9f0d72 No.16897317
>>16897314
Yes. Don't forget to keep upgrading that naval base in Bermuda so we can actually support ships over there.
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8c0f41 No.16897326
>>16897314
Do it. Also make sure to build a ton of airfields in Corsica and Sardinia, if you haven't already. With those new bombers we'll basically be hitting them the moment they leave port.
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cadeb7 No.16897346
Once more the war machine is brought to bear upon our rival in the Med. But the first action of the war will not be fought in those waters, but rather off the Western coast of Africa, by our colonial possessions. There, two of our old Coetlogon-class cruisers patrol. These ships are badly outdated and only really are still in service under the impression that they are unlikely to see much service. While they were scheduled to be replaced, government demands shifted the priorities and they still serve. At 4,000t, they only have armor capable of deflecting small rounds and have a broadside of a whopping five 5" guns, a level of firepower that new DD models are challenging.
So it is a grim sight when these two ships spot the sole armored cruiser of the Italian Navy on the horizon. The Vettor Pisani is an extremely deadly ship, over four times the displacement of a single Coetlogon-class, with a secondary broadside larger than our own ship's main guns and eight 8" guns on top of that. Their main armored belt can likely defeat a 5" round even at point blank range and they are furthermore capable of making a blistering 30kts. In short, they are a light cruiser's worst nightmare.
The Vettor Pisani moves in for the kill, her main battery ranging in onto our slow and nearly defenseless cruisers. There is really only one hope and it's a long shot. Each Coetlogon-class carries a pair of underwater torpedo tubes mounted on each side. Despite their age, these tubes still carry modern torpedoes and with the Vettor Pisani at 10 kilometers and closing, two of these are fired at her. Minutes pass, as the 8" rounds get steadily closer and more on target. Both of our cruisers take hits and the situation seems hopeless. Until a geyser of water erupts from the Vettor Pisani's port side as one of our ship's torpedoes strikes home in a nearly impossible shot.
Even with a torpedo hole in her hull, the Vettor Pisani is still a dangerous foe and our ships flee from her. With modern damage control and torpedo protection systems, it's highly doubtful that she will sink. But the damage that has been done will almost certainly be enough to take her out of the war. While not fatal, making her way back to Italy isn't possible in her condition and Italy has no friendly ports along this half of Africa. Thus, the Vettor Pisani has no choice but to turn North and make her way to the British-controlled port of Lagos in Nigeria. It will be here that she spends the rest of the war interned by the laws of war.
>Act 24 of Rights and Duties of Neutral Powers in Naval War (Hague XIII); October 18, 1907
>If, notwithstanding the notification of the neutral Power, a belligerent ship of war does not leave a port where it is not entitled to remain, the neutral Power is entitled to take such measures as it considers necessary to render the ship incapable of taking the sea during the war, and the commanding officer of the ship must facilitate the execution of such measures. When a belligerent ship is detained by a neutral Power, the officers and crew are likewise detained.
The Vettor Pisani was not sunk, but she will trouble us no longer.
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c7bf11 No.16897349
>>16897100
>Les Bains?
Sounds like a big guy. Ship? CV? Airship?
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9f0d72 No.16897351
>>16897349
>Les Bains?
Escort battleship with an unreasonable amount of AA dakka for crashing planes with no survivors.
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c7bf11 No.16897353
>>16897346
Holy shit.
>>16897351
I was thinking of an incendiary-dropping airship, but a BB with lots of HE lobbing secondaries also works to make sure the fire rises.
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cadeb7 No.16897356
A look at Italy's Navy is worthwhile. Badly underfunded, they have a very weak cruiser and destroyer force, but some worthwhile capital ships. Most impressive of these are the ''Regina Margherita, which is nearly brand new and over 40,000t. Also of note is the fact they have four seaplane carriers, a somewhat odd choice. However, there is one area they have a large advantage in: submarines. They currently have 76 subs in service, and these could pose a serious threat to both our navy and merchant forces.
I have some recommendations, given our current budget surplus:
>convert the large seaplane carrier Ahhh The French Champagne Excellence to a carrier
>create a massive amount of converted trawlers to ASW ships
>rotate our capital ships into refits to add 3-4" DP guns
>design a 1,500t DD that carries a few 3" DP guns for escorting large ships
Any contention?
Also, with all the talk of names, keep in mind I also can utilize names for aircraft and squadron names. I assume anything given to me is for a ship name unless said otherwise.
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9f0d72 No.16897368
>>16897356
I'd keep our capitals out of refits until the war is over. How many planes can Champagne Excellence carry if we turn it into a carrier?
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cadeb7 No.16897371
>>16897368
The most basic refit would consist of little more than swapping her guns for smaller DP variants and adding a flight deck. That would get us 25 planes at 24kts. Alternatively, we could add a set of torpedo bulges, which would slow the ship to 22kts, but allow us to fit 28 planes and increased chance of surviving torpedo strikes.
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8c0f41 No.16897374
>>16897356
That all sounds good, but those aircraft stats are making me nervous. Let's start work on a new fighter, it might not enter service in time for this war but it can't hurt to try.
>>16897371
The bulged version sounds good to me.
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7c9b7b No.16897401
>>16897356
>Regina Margherita
>speed:18knots
>in 1923
What?Why?Pastaniggers absolutley deserve to get torpedoe'd to oblivion.
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cadeb7 No.16897415
Our construction program goes forward, with our seaplane tender undergoing conversion therapy, our new line of DDs laid down and over twenty civilian vessels undergoing conversion into sub hunters. The need for these is obvious, as a Italian submarine torpedoes the same ship we stole rightfully took as tribute after our last war with them. The British lose control of Yemen, which is a bit of a shame really, as it could have been a viable target in the event of a Franco-Brit war.
In the Med, a set of our destroyers chase off one of their Italian counterparts, although only damaging it.
>>16897401
Wartime reports are usually very inaccurate. Odds are she can actually make 23 or so.
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cadeb7 No.16897426
So, uh, the war's over.
I don't really know what happened. They made an offer of peace with no border changes, we obviously told the politicians to reject them and yet here we are. Six points of economic reparations go our way as a result. It must be mentioned, that over the course of this three month war only a single ship was lost, the Ville de Dordeaux, an old colonial gunboat that got ambushed by an Italian submarine.
So with that incredibly anticlimactic war out of the way, what should we be doing for 1926? Any particular area of the fleet that should be expanded? Someone to pick a fight with?
bed now
>>16897374
>it might not enter service in time for this war
how right you were
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378210 No.16897619
>>16897426
Since our subs have been woefully outnumbered by both the wops and the krauts, why not expand our capabilities and numbers there? We can torpedo them from both in the sky and under the sea. It might also be worth replacing some of our older vessels protecting the colonies. With our vastly expanded possessions it's not unreasonable to think they'll be attacked more often.
>>16897349
I like that idea too.
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dc5683 No.16897627
>>16897619
>Since our subs have been woefully outnumbered by both the wops and the krauts, why not expand our capabilities and numbers there?
What for? Let's be ahead of the time and focus on aircraft carriers and ASW crafts. Can't be good at everything at once.
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9f0d72 No.16897640
>>16897619
Subs are boring because you can't design them.
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9f0d72 No.16897647
>>16897426
Some MTB squadrons in northern France could help should we ever go to war with the Anglos.
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378210 No.16897698
>>16897627
>>16897640
Fair points. My main reasoning for suggesting it was because of the continual sub attacks going after some of our larger vessels, especially when they're already wounded Knowing a lot of enemy capital ships have in several cases barely managed to slip away after combat I thought it would be cool if we could be the ones doing that to their wounded ships instead.
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cdac04 No.16897863
>>16897640
RtW3 with anti-air sub designs when
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cadeb7 No.16897917
Post war draw-downs are undertaken, with our second rate ships going into reserve or mothballs and airbase capacity is temporarily reduced for cost-savings.We draw up designs for a new light cruiser model to serve on the frontline, in anticipation for sending our models such as the Bastille Bastard-class and Quit Lyon To Me-class to relieve our aging colonial ships.
In politics, a disarmament conference is being held. While the only major ships are currently under construction are being made in Great Britain (an Inflexible-class and a Illustrious-class of yet unknown design), furthering this conference could result in capital ship construction being put on pause for a serious amount of time, perhaps until war breaks out again.
Should we support this?
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378210 No.16897993
>>16897917
If we're not building new capital ships then no-one should. Ergo, no treaty and we should lay down a new capital ship if what the brits are putting down is significantly better than what we already have.
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cadeb7 No.16898071
Germany begins launching a new series of heavy cruiser, which have a rather interesting armament and protection arrangement. I've prepared a few designs for consideration as far as new capital ships. All of these designs assume we want to transition to the "fast battleship" model, which bridges the gap between traditional BB and BC. Noting that our current model of torpedo bomber is rather outdated, I've also put in an order for a new model.
Now, should we keep the colonial expansion going?
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9f0d72 No.16898113
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378210 No.16898135
>>16898071
Our baguette empire shall encircle the world. That said, I like both option 2 and option 3, but I like option 2 the most. Petitioning to name it "SUCK MY IOWANG" class. If any of option 3 is constructed, "YAMATO WAS A FAT FUCK".
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617d37 No.16898140
>>16898071
It might not be best idea to put all our eggs in 2x4x18inch baskets. If one turret gets disabled by a hit that's only 4 guns operational.
Imo it's better to go 3x on ABY or 2x on ABXY or a mixture of both, so that if one turret gets disabled you're losing only 2 or 3 guns.
Could you desing one with 4x2 cheme for consideration?
Whats the tonnage limit on RtW2? Did they increase it from 50K or something like that from the first?
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617d37 No.16898155
>>16898140
Also, name next carrier Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride
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9f0d72 No.16898168
>>16898140
90,000 tons, I believe.
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8c0f41 No.16898175
>>16898071
I really like that second design.
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cadeb7 No.16898185
The occupation of Java fails and we take a hit to prestige as a result. One fact I overlooked is that we have Q0 17" guns, which could provide a decent middle ground between the caliber choices. But our gun manufacturers have also just begun making better 16" guns.
Our new prototype torpedo bombers are presented. The Dewoitine has less range but better maneuverability, thus making it more likely to land hits or survive interception, but the Breguet has a considerable range advantage. Which do we like better?
Also, name pool is running low for non-carriers/BBs
>>16898140
Included
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617d37 No.16898209
>>16898185
I vote for range. Speed and maneuverability won't mean shit if you can't actually reach out and touch the enemy.
Plus it gives us some standoff capabilities.
Noice, I'm picturing HMS Hood like ship with those 4x2 turrets
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378210 No.16898235
>>16898185
>>16898209
I can't say I'm keen on the short range either, it's why I favor option 2 from >>16898071 . Especially with better quality guns coming in.
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cadeb7 No.16898288
Development of the Breguet D.86 continues, as does development of our capital ship design. The Naval Secretary asks for additional submarines, which we indulge him in by spending the budget increase on small coastal subs who's total cost is less than the grant. Smaller ships which have yet to receive flak armaments are rotated into refits.
Our recent actions in Java, as well as the general ebb and flow of things, have caused tensions across Europe to start creeping up again. Should we pin this on someone, or just wing it?
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8c0f41 No.16898311
>>16898288
Blame Japan, if that's an option.
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378210 No.16898330
>>16898288 (checked)
Oof. Tensions with the bongs looks like it's creeping up. Judging by nation statistics they seem to tremendously outweigh our navy. If we can't blame the wops, krauts or nips then let's lessen tensions.
>>16898311 (checked)
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1b1303 No.16898374
>>16898330
>kneeling to britkikes
How very French
Why isn't there a Rothschild named boat? I would also like to see a "le coq au mer"
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cadeb7 No.16898442
Japan was not an option, but the communist menace is always a good choice to cast suspicion upon. Look at them, building new battle-cruisers and the like!
While unrest with Germany is increase, Great Britain is evidently looking to make sure they don't have to use their mighty fleet at all. How should we respond to their attempts at mending things?
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9f0d72 No.16898463
>84 prestige
We probably have enough to trade for some funding.
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378210 No.16898481
>>16898374
yes
>>16898442
Losing a bit of prestige wouldn't hurt us in the long run. Appease the Anglo Menace so we can focus on curbstomping what really matters: godless kraut commie bastards that still think they have a right to exist.
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cadeb7 No.16898515
Our current construction projects are proceeding along quite well and reasonably within budget. Thus, this next choice is very similar to the last, do we risk raising tensions or do we have enough funds to dissuade the conservatives?
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9f0d72 No.16898557
>>16898515
Go for the moolah.
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cadeb7 No.16898590
Our spies manage to pull two rather advanced techs in a row, although this pisses the Italians off no small amount. The Naval secretary again asks for another ten subs, with the funding to match.
There's been yet another government shift, while the Germans are looking like they're about to snap. The rest of Europe is eying us suspiciously as well. What's our choice?
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e42c35 No.16898600
>>16898590
Tell the President that no amount of social spending is going to stop the commies from sending a battlecruiser up the Seine.
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8c0f41 No.16898603
>>16898590
Guess it's time to remove kraut. Again.
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cadeb7 No.16898624
A pair of tech advances comes through, one which largely benefits capital ships and heavy cruisers, the other destroyers. We are building some of both, but could supplement them with additional designs since our budget is pretty high. The US gets a rebellion on it's doorstep, following in the footsteps of Great Britain. Noting that Japan has a curious new type of aircraft known as a "dive bomber", we purchase a license to produce them ourselves.
Should we equip some of our carriers with this new type of plane, perhaps as a trial? Alternatively, we could do so, then run a fleet exercise to evaluate their effectiveness.
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9f0d72 No.16898629
>>16898624
Shit, I forgot fleet exercises were even a thing. Yes to both counts.
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cadeb7 No.16898639
A small fleet exercise is put into place. Our goals for this are:
>determine effectiveness of dive bombers even with small bombload
>determine effectiveness of CAP and AAA
>see how a carrier vs. carrier scenario might play out
Our scenario opens in the Bay of Biscay in the mid afternoon. There will likely only be time for a single strike, so accuracy of the strikes will be vital. But to spice things up, the forces are not evenly matched. Our force contains a single carrier with escorts, the "enemy" force two. As a result, our carrier lacks the air group to both effectively scout and strike.
>lesson learned: a lone carrier must be backed up with floatplane scouts or another carrier to be effective
At roughly three in the afternoon an "enemy" scout plane is spotted overhead. The jig is up, our force has been spotted and the "enemy" strike is likely spotting on the decks of their carrier now. Thus, our attack planes are split up into sections of three planes and launched in an arc in hopes of finding the enemy force. These strikes go unescorted, as our fighters remain overhead to protect our carrier.
>lesson learned: current fighter complements allow us to defend the carrier or escort strikes, but not both
Our Northernmost strike, a flight of three D.86 torpedo bombers followed by three Toryu dive bombers, is the one that comes up lucky and finds the enemy force. The "enemy" carriers are not undefended though, and a wing of six D.79 fighters swoops in, "killing" one and "damaging" another before repeating the process again. Things get worse as another group of CAP fighters engages our dive bombers and "kills" them all within the span of a minute. A minute later, the final "survivor" is brought down, eliminating our strike wing entirely.
>lesson learned: unescorted strikes are extremely vulnerable to CAP
During this time, our force has made a major shift in course to attempt to throw off the "enemy" counterattack. This, combined with the fact that there is little daylight left and dusk is rapidly approaching, spares us from suffering a potentially devestating strike.
>lesson learned: if spotted out, change course if possible. Pray for darkness.
Overall, a quite worthwhile experience that has provided us with some important information about how carrier combat might work. But it would seem that the Germans and the Italians have some serious concerns about us practicing this while tensions are so high.
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0ef2db No.16898706
>>16898624
>a revolt on Haiti
Back then there was a revolt almost every month. The nigs kept quiet only when US Marines were keeping the peace by Congress order.
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9f0d72 No.16899042
>>16898639
3 wars against Germany in 3 decades. I'd hate to see what western Europe looks like in this timeline.
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cadeb7 No.16899252
The possibility of a two front war is looking increasingly inevitable. Should we seal the deal with Germany?
>>16899042
Actually it's closer to 3 wars in 15 years, with a short conflict with Italy in-between. Then add in the two wars with Italy, one of which resulted in their collapse and a conflict with Austria.
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9f0d72 No.16899292
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cadeb7 No.16899523
The first action of the war is an uneventful coastal raid where the German ships fail to meet our own or find any merchants, so no loss there.
The second takes place off the coast of Norway, as a fast task force consisting of six cruisers and our carrier ISS Acrebleu, along with their escorts, is hunting for Germans. Scout floatplanes deployed (and in ''Escargot Fuck Yourself's case, catapulted) off of our cruisers fan out to search to the Northwest, while on our carrier torpedo bombers are assembled. Split into three flights, these consist of two "hunter" groups of 5 and 6 planes each, and a "killer" group of 11. If the scouts report a contact the smaller flights will be sent out to confirm the target, followed by the large group to deliver the decisive strike.
Soon enough our scouts report in, having spotted a set of cruisers and auxiliary ships about 70 miles to the Northwest. The auxiliary ships are a rather odd thing, but our hunter strike takes off towards the contacts. No carriers are reported to be in this group, so no fighters are included in the attack. While an enemy air attack is unlikely, the few fighters we carry still patrol the skies above our task force.
Our strike begins to arrive and it becomes evident quite quickly that our initial reports were flawed. German fighters, BV-94's, intercept the bombers as they approach their targets. Our strike makes a good show, with the defensive gunners upon our planes damaging one of the German's planes in exchange for losing one of our own. As the attack commences, one of our torpedo bombers collides with a German fighter, destroying them both. Despite both of the hunter flights making contact and attacking, no hits are reported.
A difficult decision now has to be made: do we launch our larger flight at the known enemy position unescorted, knowing that an enemy carrier is there providing cover to the German force? This risks heavy losses to German fighters, but to delay the strike in order to recall CAP fighters, refuel them and organize them to escort the torpedo bombers in could take time we don't have, especially if a German counterattack is coming. In the end, the decision is made to be aggressive, the 11-plane strike will launch without escorts.
Soon after the strike launches, unfamiliar planes appear on the horizon. A small squadron of German dive bombers. Fi-104s is approaching. These planes select our light cruiser force as their targets and come plummeting out of the sky towards them. Our ships take evasive action, but one of the German planes drops a bomb onto our ship Le Coq au Mer. The 300lb projectile impacts her amidships…and doesn't detonate as the fuze fails.
A sigh of relief is quickly cut short as another flight of German planes is spotted, this time Hs-102 torpedo bombers. These pilots appear more well trained, as they select higher priority targets: our heavy cruiser division and the ISS Acrebleu. Despite the flak our ships send up and the CAP our planes are providing, these plane split up and make an attack upon both targets simultaneously. Escargot Fuck Yourself takes a hit at 11:11, and a minute later ISS Acrebleu suffers one in kind. The torpedo hits, while not fatal, cause both ships to be limited to 14kts of speed, severely limiting our ability to maneuver. The decision is thus made to withdraw to the South, hoping to break contact before the situation can turn worse.
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cadeb7 No.16899581
To the North, our larger torpedo bomber strike makes contact with the enemy force and makes their attack. Safety can be found in numbers, and when the German fighters attempt to intercept them, the combined defensive fire shoots one of them down. The attack pushes through the air defenses and a pair of hits are reported, along with the sight of a large plume of smoke rising from the ship hit.
As our force continues to the South, the cruisers spot an unknown ship on the horizon. It would seem that the enmy force is mirroring our movements, which lends credence to the idea that our torpedo bombers pulled off a damaging strike. The decision of how to respond to this development is interrupted however, as ten BV-97 float planes appear in pursuit of our force. While ill-suited to direct attack, they can still carry bombs. Attacks are made upon our cruisers as well as ISS Acrebleu, which is hit by a 500lb armor piercing bomb which punches through part of the superstructure before impacting the flight deck and detonating. This starts a fire, but damage control manages to bring it under control within 15 minutes.
The German force consists almost entirely of cruisers armed with 6" guns, as well as escorts. Of note is the Bremen-class, which boasts thin armor but a dozen guns and an extremely high speed. While highly dangerous to our light cruisers, this is a force that our heavy cruisers are well-suited to fighting, as the 2" belt of the German ships is unlikely to stand up to the 8" guns they carry.
For a few hours fire is exchanged between the forces, but the German ships never come close enough to lead to a decisive result. Our hits appear to be having an annoyingly minor effect upon them, even with their paper-thin belt armor. As night begins to fall, both sides withdraw, unwilling to face destroyer attacks or the danger of close range gunfire.
In post-battle analysis, several mysteries are solved. The ship struck by our torpedo bombers was the light German carrier Jade. When impacted by the torpedo, explosion was vented directly into the ordinance lockers, resulting in a detonation that simply destroyed the ship outright. There was, however, another German carrier in the area, which played no further role in the action. The floatplanes were launched by a pair of tenders operating in the area. And it would appear that for some reason, our gunnery crews were loading HE rounds into the guns while fighting the German cruisers.
At the end of the day we've sunk a German light carrier for no real loss ourselves, making this a clear victory.
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9f0d72 No.16899645
Congratulations on winning the first serious carrier engagement.
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cadeb7 No.16899646
German submarines are getting uncomfortably effective, as they put another one of our battleships in dry dock. RtW has a general "flow" of ship effectiveness that generally attempts to mirror reality. At this point, submarine tech is largely outstripping ASW tech A carrier engagement occurs between our CV and a German raiding force, but despite overlapping scouting missions to contact is established and the action results in no combat.
Rather surprisingly the Commies approach us with an offer of peace. Do we want to take it, given the international tensions, or do we try and crush the communism out of the Germans.
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9f0d72 No.16899649
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378210 No.16899651
>>16899581
That's a good win for the history books. Our aircraft innovations were worth it.
>>16899646
Throw them out the helicopter until ideology improves.
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8c0f41 No.16899655
>>16899646
To hell with peace, let's keep bullying them until they have another revolution.
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cadeb7 No.16899684
Hoping to force the Germans to submit, we assemble our forces for a decisive battle. All carriers are brought together, as well as as many battleships and cruisers as is practical. Our forces set sail to force the Germans to engage us, only for the weather to turn bad. With air operations rendered impossible and with it our greatest advantage removed, we recall the force. Still, one of our submarines manages to hit the German battleship Moltke, which at least makes this a technical victory.
Any hope of a short war is removed with a declaration from the German General Secretary of total war. With any hope that means this war will end with the abolishment of gommunism.
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378210 No.16899716
>>16899684
Oh shit it's commie hitler. Hope we can get another good chance at a large fleet engagement.
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cadeb7 No.16899957
Apologizes, I played a battle through, then left to do something. Long story short
>large raid on German coastline
>we spend the first night positioning ourselves out in the North Sea
>as dawn breaks, we send scouts out
>poor quality reports come in, strike planes are sent out in probing attacks
>minor successes reported
>enemy planes begin harassing us
>while withdrawing due to low info, find a German BC shadowing us
>attempt to attack it, land a bomb hit on it
>it runs off, insufficient aircraft to pursue it
>Trafalgar Was an Inside Job hits a mine on the way back
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cadeb7 No.16900219
One thing we may want to think about is the creation of a purpose built aircraft carrier. Free of the burden of heavy armor, these could carry a much larger flight complement. We could build these to two general models, either a largely unarmored version that uses it's space to focus on aircraft, or a variant that is larger and uses the extra capacity to mount a heavily armored flight deck to protect it from bombs and the like. We could also go full meme-build and create a battle-carrier, although those don't work great and making them is technically an exploit
I've also laid down a large number of civilain corvettes to help combat the German submarine threat, as well as some minesweepers. Rather worryingly, tensions with Great Britain are creeping up.
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9f0d72 No.16900225
>>16900219
Let's lay down some armed merchants with K-guns, mines, and hedgehog charges (do we have that tech) to dab on German submarines.Also, I like the 20,000 ton carrier design that's much cheaper to build.
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628102 No.16900231
>>16900219
How effective is anti-air in this game? Might build a designated carrier without armor and focused on carrying planes, and make a few designated escort crafts whose only job is protecting the carrier.
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8c0f41 No.16900247
>>16900219
If we're taking deck hits at this point, we're probably fucked regardless. Go for the cheaper option.
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909418 No.16900301
>>16900247
On the other hand, it's the Mediterranean. We're practically never going to be operating outside the range of land-based bombers.
Go with the armored deck.
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cf7604 No.16900444
>>16900225
>>16900247
Shit, I didn't notice that, getting that flight deck armour increases the cost by 60%. We may as well just build lots more of the cheaper one.
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9f0d72 No.16900514
>>16900444
Agreed. We can get 3 of the lighter carriers for every 2 of the armored ones. More air patrols is a far more effective deterrent to losing a carrier than an armored flight deck.
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cadeb7 No.16900529
A force of our cruisers and a carrier is conducting operations at night, again in the North Sea. As the sun begins to rise a startling sight is made, a German seaplane tender directly ahead. Seeking an easy kill, our cruisers advance, only to discover the remaining German aircraft carrier a ways back.This ship, the Ausonia, is currently the only German carrier that threatens the ability of us to dominate the skies above the sea. Our cruisers change targets and begin chasing the fleeing carrier, landing a pair of hits with their 6" guns.
The full rising of the sun brings another surprise, this one much less welcome. A pair of German battlecruisers, armed with 16" guns and capable of speeds of up to thirty knots, is well within gun range. As our armored cruisers and carrier has a speed less than this, and the fact that the German ships are more than capable of destroying our entire force in a stand-up fight, the tactic of "sail away as fast as possible while launching planes off the deck to distract them and your DDs lay down smoke" is employed. Essentially, we're in a miniature version of the Battle off Samar. Perhaps the only reason this has a real chance of succeeding is that the wind is blowing from the Southwest, meaning our ships can keep a steady course without having to adjust for aircraft launches and recovery.
As aircraft on the ISS Acrebleu are armed and fueled, our DD Sinker of Sour Krauts takes up the task of covering the retreat. Moving herself between the encroaching German battlecruisers and our force, she lays down a smoke screen while also positioning herself to launch her six torpedoes. Apparently unwilling to risk taking a brace of torpedoes, the German ships break off, while firing at Sinker of Sour Krauts with moderate effect. Even with the German heavy ships calling off their chase, they've still inflicted damage, as Baguette Launcher has taken a pair of bad hits from the 16" guns, limiting her speed (and thus the entire force's) to 23kts.
But all this means that ISS Acrebleu has had time to launch her aircraft. 21 torpedo bombers take flight in the direction of the enemy. Reports filter back of a hit or two scored, as well as updated information on enemy positions. Briefly, a squadron of German bomb-carrying floatplanes appears overhead and makes attack runs, although all miss their targets. As soon as the flight returns the remaining planes are reequipped and launched again, this time at the edge of their range. Again more reports come in, although sporadic. Our strike returns low on fuel, and the action concludes at that point.
The end results show that the German battleship Graf Spee took two torpedo hits that caused serious flooding. Despite this, she was capable of making good speed and returned to port. The carrier Ausonia caught fire as a result of the 6" gunfire, which caused serious damage to her upper decks, burned many of her aircraft in the hangers and prevented her from conducting flight operations for the duration of the action. At roughly the same time Graf Spee took two torpedoes, she did as well, causing flooding that took around an hour to bring under control.
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cadeb7 No.16900741
The Germans have begun sending their cruisers to act as independent raiders, so our armored cruisers are reassigned to patrol merchant lanes hunting for them. Fromage Blinde manages to catch one, but it avoids destruction by merit of it's faster speed with only a couple glancing hits to show for it. Things get worse when Fromage Blinde is attacked by a submarine enroute back to France. Our bad luck with submarines persists, as we lose our first carrier not to combat, but to a mine. An unfitting end, but with our increased minesweeper presence this should not happen again.
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378210 No.16900786
>>16900741
Fucking oof. Never forgive the krauts.
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cadeb7 No.16900802
German diplomats put out some feelers for peace negotiations, but they're shot down immediately by the General Secretary. Our sub hunters and minesweepers begin rolling off the production lines, while we gain another option for CL designs. We could create a new class that utilizes these triple turrets, or leave that until later. Escargot Fuck Yourself intercepts a German light cruiser and dispatches it, with only a small dent in one of her turrets to mar the success. And finally, our first two purpose built carriers, Gros Mec Pour Toi and Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride, are laid down and should be operational by the end of 1931.
Our newest class of battleship is not far away either. When they are completed we'll have freed up significant funds, what should they be reallocated towards? Also I've only got one name left and it's for an 18" BB
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378210 No.16900826
>>16900802
>Trafalgar Was an Inside Job Was an Inside Job
>THE GENERAL SECRETARY IS A BITCHASS MOTHERFUCKER
>Killing Krauts With Our Dicks Out
>Better Call Gaul
>Gaul of the Molemen
>I'm Pissing on BERLIN!
>Maginot Shouldn't Have Stopped on Land
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3922d3 No.16900827
>>16900802
>almost out of names
Gas The Krauts Reich War Now
Let's Go Sack Rome Again
Pyrenees Stronk
Clovis Was Here, Caesar A Shit
Gucci Charlemagne I'm ashamed of this one
You Verdun Get Torpedoed for a DD
Remember Agincourt
Grosse Salope de Butin
Mort au Allemands
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8c0f41 No.16900829
>>16900802
Let's build one battle-carrier. We don't really need it and I don't see it being particularly effective at either role, but when has that ever stopped the French?
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cadeb7 No.16900834
A convoy escort mission at night leads to a small engagement, where we lose an obsolete destroyer but get the convoy through with no losses to it. Our 17" guns get a major upgrade, if used these will deliver performance well in excess of most other gun calibers in use today.
Finally, we get a pair of medium bomber prototypes competing to replace our ND.72. Rather oddly, they both have shorter ranges, as well as exchanging a large bomb for a pair of smaller ones. They do, however, provide significant increases in maneuverability and toughness, as well as more minor improvements in firepower and speed. The Dewoitine appears worse than it's competitor in every way, so that leaves the Nieuport.
Do we replace our ND.72 with the new ND.88, or stick with it for it's advantages?
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8c0f41 No.16900845
>>16900834
Definitely take the new bombers.
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cf7604 No.16900856
>>16900834
Once those BBs have finished building we should start work on some new ones that use those 17 inchers.
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cadeb7 No.16900872
I have nothing to add, this all happened in the span of a single month.
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cadeb7 No.16900918
Off the coast of Western France, a coastal patrol comes along a small German raiding force. Just as they approach, one of the German DDs strikes a minefield and is sunk. Rothchild Pleasure Yacht moves into engage the Hamburg-class cruiser, as she substantially outguns her. After a protracted gunnery duel, one of her AP rounds pierces the Hamburg-class's magazine, detonating it.
Another piece of good news comes, as our new class of battleship is launched, exceeding it's design speed to hit 28kts.
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cadeb7 No.16901817
The crew of the Rothchild Pleasure Yacht, along with their escort force, was probably happy to see the rain begin to break during their patrol of the Bay of Biscay. But the lifting of this rain also revealed the presence of two German capital ships at an alarmingly close distance. Well within gun range and with escape an unlikely proposition, the cruiser turned it's broadside and launched it's torpedoes. One of these strikes the German lead battlecruiser, the Graf Spee. But Rothchild Pleasure Yacht pays dearly for this. At less than 5,000 yards, she's essentially at point plant range and the German battleships waste no time in turning their guns on her. Less than 10 minutes of gunfire is enough to compromise her integrity enough for her to be lost.
The escort ships continue the attack, launching a wave of a dozen torpedoes at the Graf Spee as shells from the German ships rain down around them. At 3:11, a trio of explosions rocks the starboard side of the Graf Spee as the torpedoes find their mark. The German gunners keep their fire up, striking our destroyers repeatedly.
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cadeb7 No.16901831
The destroyers of ours that still have torpedoes attempt to repeat the success, but remarkable maneuvering and (possibly) a faulty detonator means that no other hits are scored. Belier in particular suffers this, as the Lothringen-class battleship is launches on makes a truly improbable dodge of it's spread of four torpedoes. But worst of all is Richelieu Did Nothing Wrong, as she is ripped apart by a magazine detonation. This marks the end of our ability to continue the engagement, as our destroyers are almost entirely out of torpedoes. But with four confirmed hits on the Graf Spee, this should be fine, right?
Sadly, no. The Graf Spee manages to contain the flooding just before it would become fatal. Even with a turret blown out and the ship barely staying afloat, she manages a safe return to German ports. Our only consolation prize is a submarine knocking out a German DD on the way out.
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cadeb7 No.16901851
Since our budget is going to be freed up quite a bit here, I've drawn up several plans for potential new capital ship designs, all utilizing the improved 17" guns we've researched. All designs also feature a floatplane with catapult launcher included.
>Design A
An all-forward design with three triple turrets. Reasonable protection in most regards and a good 27kts of speed.
>Design B
A turret is eliminated, with guns being reallocated to two quad turrets mounted on the fore of the ship. With the lessened weight, the turrets and belt are strengthened, as well as the double secondary turrets being turned into triples.
>Design C
A conventional design, with a protection level between A and B. Dispersed guns means an increase in armor weight, but the transition of the superimposed gun to a twin makes up the difference. Less efficient but more flexible.
>Design D
Armor and speed are sacrified to bring firepower to eleven guns, with a quad mounted fore and aft, with a triple above the fore gun.
Do any of these stand out, or would we like to take a different route?
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f6f860 No.16901868
Since the whole point is to see if stupid shit works, can't you do something like mount a 46cm yamato gun on a canoe and mass produce it?
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9f0d72 No.16901876
>>16901851
Normally I'd go for more guns, but C's greater armor and speed beats out D in my book.
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cadeb7 No.16901894
>>16901868
The game does put some limits on your designs, but you can still go pretty crazy with it. For a small battleship, perhaps you'll consider this design?
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8c0f41 No.16901960
>>16901851
Design C looks good to me.
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d52e12 No.16901962
>>16901894
Question, if you were thinking of that type of design (maximizing your number of hulls with sufficient firepower), wouldn't the flexibility of a Panzerschiff-style 1A1 but with Quads be preferred?
Technically even Two-Gun turrets, if you're trying to squeeze out as many hulls as possible, but Three-Gun would be a better minimum - I do know the game respects the 6 Shots for Accuracy rule of thumb.
If you were to use the closer centerline hardpoints (still on the fore and aft, not the amidships mounts), the weight shouldn't increase very much.
At least, in real theory. This game does some pretty weird things from a Naval Engineering field.
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f6f860 No.16901979
>>16901894
>20 secondary guns at a third of the weight
>they can't blow up our ammunition bay if it's empty
That actually looks like good cost efficiency assuming it doesn't drop like a surrendering frenchman.
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cf7604 No.16902007
>>16901851
We've got the best guns afloat so we should mount as many of them as possible, but option 4 is a bit too slow for my liking. I say go with option 1.
>>16901894
Though this thing is dumb enough that it might actually work, I'd definitely be up for shitting out triple the amount of these and ending up with more total guns.
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cadeb7 No.16902009
The current consensus seems somewhat split between the micro-battleships and the traditional design. I may end up doing one of the large and a pair of the small, assuming the budget works out.
>>16901962
Here's some 2-turret designs. One other thing I'd like to point out as well, note that these small designs utilize magazine box, so while the ammo mags get full protection, the engine room and such only gets half.
>>16901979
Keep in mind for the large designs the secondary guns were 6", with a tertiary battery of 4" DP. These get rid of the 6" and just go for 4" DP.
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d52e12 No.16902025
>>16902009
Not sure what to suggest between the Panzerschiff and full on Battleship designs.
On one hand, it's worth noting that the increased numbers of the pocket battleships for your budget results in a better statistical outcome for functions such as blockades. But on the other hand, golden bullets finding their way into the weakspots of your armor scheme don't really care about statistics.
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cadeb7 No.16902034
This next battle is getting bloody. I fucking hate drizzle right now. I also just realized we have two ships named Fromage Blinde.Or rather, we had.
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cadeb7 No.16902800
In the English Channel, the Germans launch another coastal raid. Normally this is something I'd be happy about, seeing as how we could expect reliable support from land-based aircraft and the narrow waterway would mean they'd be hard-pressed to avoid any of our strikes. There is, however, an issue: it's raining and visibility is just over torpedo ranges. No air support can be expected and every fight is going to be at medium/close range.
Just past 10 our forces meet, our leading cruiser element coming into contact with a Bremen-class heavy cruiser and a pair of Seydlitz-class battle cruisers. Our own capital ships move in to engage, while our destroyers fire a volley of torpedoes hoping to score an early hit. The Germans peel off however, vanishing back into the rain. Soon afterwards, a trio of German capital ships appear to the North and our battle line turns to meet them with their broadside. An early exchange of gunfire favors the Germans though, as our battleship Voulez-Vous Mourir Avec Moi Ce Soir take a series of badly damaging hits to the engine rooms from the German ship Worth, leaving her incapable of making more than 7kts.
At that point it becomes clear that their is a need to try and cover our own ships from harm more than damage the Germans. Our DDs rotate forward to force the Worth to back off, as the battle line continues to fight on in spite of the damage to Voulez-Vous Mourir Avec Moi Ce Soir, landing many hits on the battleship. Even though it largely goes against the policy of not pitting cruisers against capital ships, losing a battleship is hardly any better, so Escargot Fuck Yourself and Fromage Blinde move forward to engage.
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cadeb7 No.16902913
The decision to move our cruisers up proves unfortunate, as both ships take effective gunfire from the Germans ships as they rotate in and out of the drizzle. Fromage Blinde gets it badly; one round explodes in her engine room while another damages the steering gears, jamming it's rudder to port. Additional destroyer runs are undertaken as shells splash around 'Fromage Blinde, several of them striking critical points. Her forward turret is blown apart and a fire breaks out on board as heavy rounds strike the superstructure.
Things seem certain to end with 'Fromage Blinde's sinking, but the drizzle coming down is proving to have a positive side. With ranges being barely past 12,000yds, so long as our destroyers keep feinting, each German battle division that emerges only has a short time to fire before having to break off and re-enter the mist. Slowly, the engines of Fromage Blinde are brought back online, followed by her rudder control being transferred to the secondary system. At what feels like a glacial pace, the cruiser manages to limp away.
To the south though, the stand she made is paying off. Voulez-Vous Mourir Avec Moi Ce Soir manages to get her engines running back to a moderate capacity, enough to make a steady 15kts. While the rest of our battle line is comparatively undamaged, fighting several major German capital ships at such close range is not an appealing prospect and the ships withdraw.
To the Northeast, a division of our DDs is making an attempt to position themselves ahead of the German forces, hoping to set up for a torpedo attack. What they find instead is the aircraft carrier Ausonia, escorted by a lone DD. A chance to knock out the German's sole carrier is again presented and our destroyers move in to try and gun it down. The ship is forced along the English coast, but it's relatively decent armor and defensive armament means it manages to keep our ships at bay until it links up with the rest of the German fleet.
It's then that the weather finally breaks, permitting aircraft launches. There's only a couple hours before night falls, but it's enough to have ISS Acrebleu and our airbases get in a strike. From these locations flies roughly thirty torpedo bombers, as well as a squadron of flying boats. Numerous hits are reported, including an impressive show by our flying boats, who manage four hits on an enemy seaplane carrier, a 50% accuracy rate.
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cadeb7 No.16902928
The action concludes with this strike, as the German ships return to their ports. Several ships, damaged during the fight, succumb to sustained damage. The seaplane tender Grief was devestated by bomb strikes and sunk nearly immediately. The Lutzlow only took one major hit, a torpedo from the destroyer (not the cruiser) Fromage Blinde. Nevertheless, ten hours after the torpedo hit her a bulkhead ruptured inside her and massive flooding occurred. With her damage control teams unable to slow the flooding past a certain level, she floundered and sunk nearly 16 hours after being hit. The Worth, despite the heavy damage it took, actually was making it's way back fine and likely would have survived, but strike planes caught her on the retreat and sunk her. The cruiser Fromage Blinde survived, although her entire upper structure burned away and she returned as little more than a hulk.
At the end of the day, however, two German capital ships, two destroyers and a seaplane tender were lost in exchange for a pair of destroyers of our own. Hold on just a minute Admiral, didn't you say in >>16902034 that the battle was going badly? Yes, I posted that when our CA and BB were both sitting with engines disabled in range of 5 German battleships. I underestimated the concealing nature of the drizzle
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cadeb7 No.16903043
On the strategic scale, things are turning somewhat in our favor. The German submariners sink a passenger liner, although it's really only the Japanese and Americans who seem to care. We're bringing down the minefields gradually, and unlock a pretty major tech for our destroyers. Not all is good though, as the Germans close the gap somewhat on the carrier side of things with the Elbe. While small, she carriers an estimated 28 planes. And finally, speaking of planes, we're offered a replacement for our flying boats, which have become greatly outdated.
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cf7604 No.16903067
>>16902928
>21% hit rate from the Worth
These close range fights are fucking intense.
>>16903043
That new plane is a huge upgrade, should be a nice boost.
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cadeb7 No.16903137
The ISS Acrebleu (goodness me that ship has been in alot of battles), escorted by a pair of light cruisers and destroyers, is making is underway in the early morning off France when ships are spotted ahead. The lookouts report seeing a Bremen-class cruiser, as well as a Derfflinger-class battle cruiser (I know "Derfflinger" is the name of a marshall, but I consistently read it at "Death-flinger"), although the report of the battle cruiser is eventually corrected to show a second Bremen-class.
At a top speed of 32kts and armed with twelve 6" guns, the Bremens are more than well equipped to engage ISS Acrebleu and her escorts, who immediately turn and begin retreating. But the retreat isn't aimless, for some miles behind our carrier group is the heavy cruisers Fromage Blinde and Escargot Fuck Yourself. The Bremens might be good at engaging destroyers and light cruisers, but the armor of our cruisers is more than enough to stand up to their guns. Worse still, the 2" belts of the Bremens is entirely incapable of defeating the 8" guns of our heavy cruisers, even at their maximum engagement range.
Our carrier and light cruisers fall back under a covering attack by our destroyers. A torpedo spread originally intended for encroaching German destroyers passes through the formation and eventually impacts the trailing ship, which is slowed to a crawl. Another torpedo hits the Kondor-class destroyer Tiger, sinking it. Meanwhile, our carrier manages to launch her strike wing, as the wind was once again in our favor. The torpedo bombers overfly our cruisers as they engage and one of them manages to strike the limping Bremen-class. Our heavy cruisers waste no time in devastating the remaining cruiser, who really has no chance of winning the battle.
With only a lone German destroyer fleeing over the horizon in sight, our forces turn for port with a pair of kills under their belts. However, it would appear that the engagement is not quite over. A flight of eight German torpedo bombers appears overhead and makes torpedo runs on the ISS Acrebleu and her escorts. None hit, but recon flights are sent out in an attempt to determine the position of the enemy carrier that must be nearby. None manage to find anything, so the safest option is to merely keep moving towards safe harbor.
An hour or so later, another wing of German torpedo bombers arrives, this time attacking the cruiser division. In a twist of bad luck, they arrive while our CAP was in the middle of refueling, meaning that no interception occurs and it's only the AAA fire that they must brave. While a couple are shot down, one of them manages to successfully land a torpedo on Lapoutine Machine. An attempt to save the ship is made, but the damage is too great and she goes down.
Despite this poor end to the fight, it is yet again another victory, sinking two heavy cruisers of some questionable design in return for a single DD.
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9f0d72 No.16903140
Any reports on German morale yet, or are they still in favor of the war?
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a2916d No.16903471
>>16903137
>The Acrebleu, probably the lamest joke I've come up with, not only turned into one of the oldest ships in the fleet, it's also still a centerpiece of it
Please if/when it meets it's demise in battle, please name any category you see fit in it's honour, as in Acreblew Class
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9b3a4d No.16903541
>>16903471
Moar names:
FUCK OFF KRAUTNIGGERS
We baguette what we kill
We keep what we baguette
Sons of the PIZZANIGGERS II
Champagne tastes like shit, don't tell anyone
We like our baguettes long and crusty
Really, Champagne is shit
Sorry if some suck balls, no more creative juice for the day
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9b3a4d No.16903542
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8c7510 No.16903618
Got soome more names.
Feed Me Krauts
Les Elephant Terrible
The (French) Empire Strikes Back
No Clemency For Krauts
Le Flying Frenchman
Escargot Is A Helluva Drug
Floating Morgenthau Plan
This Kills The Kraut
Barbacue In The Berlin By The End Of The Year
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cadeb7 No.16904449
A fleet battle occurs, although it ends up being a rather clumsy affair. Our forces start in a quite dispersed fashion. While this does make it so that no strike could catch all our forces at once and does give us some flexibility, we have our ships set courses to meet up.
At half past eight our carriers and cruisers launch their planes to scout for the enemy. An hour passes, with our carrier planes sitting with torpedoes and bombs ready, waiting for spotting reports to come back. But the German scouts find us first, with a single torpedo bomber seen shadowing our force. Our CAP drives it off, but no doubt German attackers are on the way. Our force turns South to try and throw off any attack, and one of our DDs spots and sinks a German U-boat before it can make an attack on our fleet.
Finally reports of the Germans filter in and a full strike of about 20 torpedo bombers and 8 Japanese-designed dive bombers sets off towards the reported location. But the German strikes arrive before our do. A wing of Fi-104 dive bombers, no doubt from one of the now two German carriers appears overhead and attacks our cruiser division. None of their bombs strike home, but one narrowly misses Poignard, exploding nearby and rupturing her hull. While the flooding isn't major, she's sent home to avoid the situation getting worse.
Our strike finally arrives, being met with anti-aircraft fire but no enemy aircraft to intercept them. Our dive bombers lead the attack, but none manage to hit their targets. Our torpedo bombers report significantly more success, claiming four hits, but post-battle analysis proves that only two were managed. At the same time, another wave of German dive bombers attacks our main force, now proceeding at some distance from our carriers. The German pilots again manage no hits, likely due to heavy AA fire and a small band of patrolling fighters warding them off.
That would prove the final note to this battle, which despite the size was of very low intensity and only barely noteworthy in any real fashion.
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cadeb7 No.16904466
Almost immeditly after entrering service, My Guns Are Not the Only 16" On This Ship strikes a mine and goes back into dockyard hands. Across the sea, the Americans are building an…interesting carrier.
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3cef1e No.16904862
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names to use as you see fit
FELICITACIONS!
Bud Light Against Humanity
Le Fantastique Sailing Potat
Geneva My Ass
Kek On Le Sauerkret
Dr Robotnik's Baguette Fiasco
But I Just Left The Dockyard Onee-chan
Purging Krauts For 12 Hours
Est Cete Perte?
Pepe Le Pew
ESCARGOT LOOKING ASS
Just BLJ Mon Frère
Get In The Fucking Plane Shinji
Niggerté Faggernité Dabbelité
>>16904466
>You see pardner, ya'll don't gotta be 'fraid of air raids if you launch them yerself and shoot 'em fuckers in the back
>>16904466
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cadeb7 No.16905166
Having operated Japanese-designed dive bombers for three years, our aviation engineers feel confident enough to produce their own models, which we can now begin requesting. On the gun manufacturing field, we now have improved 4" guns, which of course means rotating nearly every ship in for a secondary/tertiary armament refit as soon as is practical.
An alarming thing is noted. While Germany previously lagged behind us considerably in destroyer development, it would seem they've begun to rectify that. Our largest DD is 1,500t with four 5" guns as it's main armament, but the Germans have begun producing larger models with similarly increased gun mounts. If they go larger, it only stands to reason that we need to as well. Does this model seem a logical increase?
Also:
>Alarmed by our dreadnought building program, the Prime Minister of Great Britain authorizes increased naval spending.
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8c0f41 No.16905196
>>16905166
Let's use 4" DP guns for the main battery, we need all the AA we can get.
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9f0d72 No.16905207
>>16905166
>Alarmed by our dreadnought building program, the Prime Minister of Great Britain authorizes increased naval spending.
Looks like the eternal anglo is about to strike.
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cadeb7 No.16905348
Through an unfortunate series of events, the light cruiser Friant is lost along the German coastline. The rest of her force manages to even the score slightly by knocking out a couple merchants and bombarding a coastal battery, but it's an unfortunate loss.
A request for new fighters was put forward a few months ago, asking for firepower and speed. It is thus very disappointing to see that none of the new models submitted can even match our current fighter design in firepower. The speed and ranges are universally better though, as well as most of them being tougher. Should we adopt one of these new prototypes, or stick with our overgunned D.79?
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cdac04 No.16905356
>>16905166
There is absolutely no way to engineer a triple threat, is there? We might be in trouble if a two-front war is confirmed, unless they share some of the heat between themselves.
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cdac04 No.16905359
>>16905348
>Should we adopt one of these new prototypes, or stick with our overgunned D.79?
I'd say roll the prototype dice again. Alternatively the loss of firepower may be mitigated with numbers with more carriers and planes, but I'm not sure if that's sustainable. If you're gonna pick any, I'd take the Potez for the durability.
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8c0f41 No.16905363
>>16905359
Seconding this.
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c7bf11 No.16905468
>>16904466
That gunship/CV Wasp looks like a post-CV-conversion-but-pre-rebuild Akagi. Does it also have multiple flight decks? both Akagi and Kaga had three flight decks, but switched to flattops, due to the switch from biplanes to faster and heavier monoplanes which rendered the second and third flight decks obsolete.
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3063c5 No.16905502
>>16905348
>fighters
Any way to see what the enemy is using?
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cadeb7 No.16905888
Update will be coming later tonight, things been busy in my neck of the woods.
>>16905468
Afraid that's just cosmetic, but I love triple flight deck arrangement. The Americans had something almost as cool catapults mounted in the hangers allowing them to launch fighters out the side of the carriers to free up deck space. Pilots hated them since you'd be launching in a major crosswind and had little room to spare.
>>16905502
Current estimates for the German's newest fighter, the Fw-107 are:
>Fighter: Focke-Wulf Fw 107 (1930) Speed: 140 Firepower: 2
>>16905356
Currently tensions are at a high but survivable level, except for Italy. They're a wildcard.
>>16903471
She has one major problem though, because of her larger size and less efficient utilization of that size (armor and older hull), the ISS Acrebleu costs over twice as much to operate as the carrier that was converted from a seaplane tender, Ahhh the French Champagne Excellence, despite only operating a 14% larger air group (32 vs. 28).
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29e5f3 No.16905959
>>16905888
Keep the current fighters, 20 more speed is nothing compared to 2x more firepower.
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cadeb7 No.16906340
Several months have occured where potential battles have failed to materialize, either due to poor weather, inadequate scouting or in some cases just inappropriate force composition. But on the 25th of May, our forces stationed in Brest are alerted to a report of German ships operating nearby. Both of our new battleships of the Suck My Iowang-class, Les Bains and My Guns are Not The Only 16 On This Ship get a chance to show their worth. Following along with them is the converted carrier Ahhh the French Champagne Excellence, with it's mixed flight complement of torpedo and dive bombers.
It is decided to let land-based aircraft perform the scouting role, as our carrier only carries enough planes for a single good strike as is. The flying boats from Brest soon make a confirmed sighting, prompting both our carriers and land bases to assemble flights to attack the German force. No reports of German carriers are made, so no fighters go with the strike. Ahead and below these planes, our battleships advance to meet the Germans.
The torpedo bomber wave from Ahhh the French Champagne Excellence fails to find the enemy, searching too far to the North. Our dive bombers make more success though, reporting they've landed a series of hits on a German light cruiser. At St. Nazaire, a flight of flying boats and medium bombers sets off on a long range mission to deliver their own payload.
After a dash South at high speed our battleships spot a German ship, tentatively identified as a battlecruiser. Our ships sent off in pursuit, but the German ship manages to keep it's distance at the extreme end of our gunnery range as it flees East. A slight worsening of the weather however, means that the German ship fades out of view. Our battleships keep chasing, but nothing is found.
It's at that point that things become very uncomfortable, for the German battlecruiser is spotted. Not by our prusing force, but by Ahhh the French Champagne Excellence as the battlecruiser, now identified as the Graf Spee emerges. Our carrier immediately turns and tries to flee to the South, but our carrier is capable of making 22kts, the Graf Spee 30. Thus, it falls to the destroyers to cover the retreat, while our battleships adjust their course to try and intervene.
The value of our quad torpedo mounts is displayed, as our escorts fire a wave of torpedoes into the path of the Graf Spee that essentially ensures a hit. Sure enough, one of them, launched by the Le Rosbif finds it's mark. The wounded Graf Spee turns away from our carrier, only to be met by our battleships. While she may have been an impressive ship in her heyday, our own ships have a 50% heavier armament each, as well as thicker armor. A gunnery duel is entirely one sided, with the Graf Spee only managing a single hit, a round which passed through the hull of Les Bains without detonating.
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cadeb7 No.16906353
A question might be asked, why was the Graf Spee alone? As it turns out, it wasn't. Rather, it was operating with another battlecruiser, the Seydlitz, when a squadron of medium bombers from St. Nazaire bombed them. The Seydlitz suffered three hits, one of which disabled her engines momentarily and started a fire. The Seydlitz fell back while Graf Spee remained. The "light cruiser" our dive bombers reported hitting was actually the destroyer Greif, which sunk about an hour after being bombed.
Our war efforts are finally taking effect on the German public, after 31 months of war.
Finally, the Potez 98 has begun full production. Aaaaaand it turns out it's an even bigger piece of shit than we thought. Unless there are any objections, I'll go ahead and declare the design obsolete so we can continue using our D.79s.
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cadeb7 No.16906364
The images are rather self explanatory here, but there is something that needs to be decided upon. Our two purpose built carriers have entered service, but what kind of air-group should they embark? Each carrier has room for 56 aircraft total.
>D.79 Fighter: Range 117, good for CAP and escort missions
>D.86 Torpedo bomber: Range 132 with torpedo, 224 in scouting configuration
>Kyushu Dive Bomber: Range 92 at max load, 120 at light load
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cadeb7 No.16906375
Also worth mentioning, two of our airplane squadrons, a torpedo group of the ISS Acrebleu and a land based bomber squadron, have been recognized as elite pilots. Also, our newest batch of fighters has come in. The Potez has longer range, but the LeO is substantially tougher. Do we favor one over the other?
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311e8c No.16906423
>>16906364
What is the difference - from a purely tactical standpoint in the game - between dive bomber and torpedo bomber? I'd favor the latter, simply because a plane can drop a torpedo from a distance and retreat instead of being forced to fly over the ship being constantly shot at by AAA. Also there were multiple occurences where bombs just missed the target or failed to explode.
>fighter
Liore seems much better, with significantly higher survivability while sacrificing a negligible amount of speed.
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cf7604 No.16906572
>>16906364
Dive bombers seem somewhat unimpressive since torpedos hit so much harder, I say go with a mix of fighters and torpedo bombers.
>>16906375
The LeO can match our loaded TB's range so they're able to escort, that's all they really need rangewise since the TBs can double scouts.
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83134e No.16906595
>>16906423
Torpedoes have to breach the belt armor to do any real damage, dive bombs quite literally skip over it by punching through the decks instead. See the gaping hole in the period pictures from >>16905348 for example? That's a busted belt, but the ship can still limp back to port because the actual innards of the ship haven't been breached. It would take a massive payload to do in a ship in a single torpedo. That, or repeat hits.
In the historical context of the game, air warfare is currently the new thing and as such there aren't any passive countermeasures to a dive bomb. Comparatively, torpedoes have been around forever.
Not OP so I'm basically talking out of my ass.
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8c0f41 No.16906737
>>16906364
24 fighters, 12 dive bombers and 20 torpedo bombers seems about right.
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cadeb7 No.16906760
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>>16906423
>>16906572
Historically, torpedo bombers suffered much worse from AAA and enemy fighters, since to launch they had to get both very low and very slow, as well as flying directly at their targets in an extremely predictable pattern if they didn't want to launch at extreme ranges. Dive bombers on the other hand would come in at high altitude, then enter their attack runs at high speed, being practically impossible to intercept in that phase. After that, they'd be able to use that built up speed to push through and escape, helped of course by the fact that enemy fighters would be more concerned with aircraft that have yet to drop their ordinance.
In game, torpedo bombers are generally the "killers", as below water hits obviously sink ships much faster. However, dive bombers are generally better at landing hits on small targets like DDs. There's another major factor to consider, which is that bomb hits on aircraft carriers that have planes ready to launch (armed and fueled) can cause chain reaction fires in the hangers, which are nearly impossible to get under control. Aircraft carriers in general are much worse at fighting fires than other ships, so even a couple small bombs can doom one if they start fires.
To quote the manual on how aircraft attacks work:
>As each squadron section attacks, the defending ship will first have a chance to fire at the section with its AAA. Each size of AAA - heavy, medium and light, fires separately and may have different effects on the attacking aircraft.
>Anti-aircraft artillery is rated for two characteristics: “AA factor”, which is essentially a measure of the strength or volume of the AA fire, and “Hit chance”, which is the percentage chance that the AA fire will achieve a hit against an attacking plane.
>The AA factor is calculated based on the number of AA guns of a particular size on the defending ship that are currently able to fire. Installing more AA guns while building or rebuilding the ship will increase this value. Taking superstructure hits during combat can reduce this value.
>The AA hit chance has a base hit value that is modified by:
<Technology improvements
<Local weather conditions that affect visibility
<Night or twilight
<The type of ship firing (destroyers are not as stable gun platforms)
<The quality and quantity of the AA fire direction systems on the ships
<The quality of the ship’s crew
<The type of air attack being opposed (dive bombing, level bombing, etc.)
<Quality of radar
<Speed of attacking aircraft
>AAA fire may damage, destroy, abort or disrupt attacking aircraft. Any of these results will reduce the chance that the attacking squadron will achieve a hit. Damage, destruction and abort results will affect individual aircraft within the attacking section, while disruption effects are applied to the entire attacking section.
>Destroyed planes do not execute a bomb attack and are marked as destroyed planes in the squadron. Aborted planes are not damaged but do not execute a bombing attack. Damaged planes may attempt an attack with reduced accuracy. Disruption applies to the entire section and reduces the accuracy of a bombing attack for all planes in the section. A higher level of disruption will affect accuracy more strongly. Disruption will be slowly recovered after the attack as the squadron reforms.
>AAA will fire at any attacking aircraft (including friendly attacking planes) prior to the aircraft releasing their ordnance. Heavy AA fires first, followed by medium AA and finally light AA will fire.
>Heavy AA from nearby ships may be added to the HAA value of the defending ship. Heavy AA may damage, destroy or abort attacking aircraft and will add to the disruption of the section.
>Medium AA fires next, but only MAA from the defending ship may fire. As with HAA, medium AA may damage, destroy or abort individual attacking planes and also adds to the disruption of the section as a whole.
>Light AA will fire at aircraft attacking their own ship either before or after enemy aircraft release their ordnance, depending on a random roll compared to the speed of the aircraft. The faster the aircraft is, the larger the chance that light AA will fire after the aircraft has dropped its ordnance. LAA will always inflict disruption before aircraft attack, even if their fire takes effect after the aircraft have attacked.
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8c0f41 No.16906797
>>16906423
>>16906760
The other factor to consider is that non-penetrating bomb hits (which are very, very common since our dive bombers only carry a 250lb bomb) deal superstructure damage rather than hull damage. Superstructure hits normally can't sink a well-armored ship by themselves, but they do have a pretty good chance to:
>destroy secondary, tertiary and AA guns
>temporarily disable the main guns
>destroy fire-control positions
>damage or destroy the bridge
>disable or detonate above-water torpedoes
>start fires
>disable flight decks or seaplane catapults
>destroy aircraft in the hangar or on deck, in various states of preparedness
tl;dr: Dive bombers aren't very good at killing ships (yet), but they're great at crippling them so the TBs and destroyers can finish them off.
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909418 No.16907002
>>16906364
24 fighters, 20 dive bombers, 12 torpedo bombers.
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cadeb7 No.16907073
Our newest class of DDs is laid down. At 1,800t, it carries eight dual purpose 4" guns, a small amount of defensive auto-cannons, a substantial amount of ASW weapons, as well as the usual eight torpedoes and some mines. And with all of this comes a speed of 34kts.
While our navy grows, the Japanese are doing some espionage. Should we tell them to keep out or let it slide?
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9f0d72 No.16907115
>>16907073
Tell the nips to shove it.
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cadeb7 No.16907197
A small carrier engagement takes place off the coast of France, with the ISS Acrebleu under escort by Escargot Fuck Yourself and several destroyers. Scouting reports discover an enemy cruiser force at the extreme edge of our torpedo bombers range and a squadron of eight planes is launched. This strike eventually does discover a force of several battlecruisers and executes a torpedo attack, but no hits are scored.
As the torpedo bombers make their way back, a formation of German dive bombers appears overhead and makes for the ISS Acrebleu. The fighters of our carrier suceed in shooting down two dive bombers before they can attack, but several get through. A 300lb bomb strikes her, but fails to detonate. The impact begins a small fire, but it's immediately extinguished without incident. With no reports of where the German carriers might be by any spotting aircraft, our force retreats into port.
The next morning, land based aircraft perform a sweep and finally spot the German carriers. A formation of D.91 flying boats takes off in pursuit and at just past 11 finds the Germans. Flak from the German ships rises up and claims a plane, as the rest of the squadron makes their bomb runs. A single hit is scored upon the carrier Ausonia, dealing surprisingly little damage.
Finally, our two new carriers are in operational service, with their air groups filling out nicely. As there was some dispute over squadron makeup, I've settled on a mix of torpedo bombers and fighters, with an accompanying complement of dive bombers as well. This does, however, highlight how inefficient of a ship the ISS Acrebleu is in actuality: despite costing more than our purpose-built designs it carries only over half as many planes. While we'll probably keep her around during the war, scrapping her afterwards may be an option to consider.
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f7f43f No.16907356
>>16904862
>Est Cete Perte?
Est-ce que c'est "Perte"?*
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cadeb7 No.16907437
June 21st is the Summer solstice, the longest day in the Northern hemisphere. Two days later, one of our newest carriers is operating with a force of our SUCK MY IOWANG-class battleships. For naval operations, that means a very short period of respite before a seemingly endless day where aircraft strikes are nearly impossible to hide from.
The beginning of this conflict is actually quite subdued, it's the following morning that things heat up. Recon flights detect a force of enemy capital ships to the South, but no enemy carriers are spotted. Despite this, our strike goes out with escorts attached. A large strike of 22 strike planes with 8 escorts goes towards the primary spotting report, while a smaller strike of 12 torpedo bombers and 6 escorts flies on a more South-easterly route. Our ships continue to the West, keeping some distance between us and the enemy force.
But that course correction isn't enough to throw off the Germans, who's strike must have launched first from an unseen carrier. Two wings of BV-110 torpedo bombers make attack runs on our battleships. Under most circumstances, this would not be a big problem, as our carriers are maintaining a heavy CAP overhead. But the German bombers attacked at the worst possible moment, right after our current patrol landed on it's carrier but before the replacement flight takes off. Les Bains is the first to take a hit, while one of the torpedoes meant for her misses but proceeds to hit My Grandkids Will Found Ubisoft, Sorry Bout That, sinking the destroyer. The second wave of torpedo bombers is even more accurate, landing two hits on My Guns Are Not The Only 16 On This Ship and another on Les Bains. The flooding on both ships is bad but survivable, although a ruptured bulkhead on Les Bains briefly makes it look likely the ship will sink.
To the South, our main strike fails to find it's target, but the small one finds the German carrier force at the extreme edge of it's range. The bombers press the attack and drop their torpedoes, but none of them manage to find a target. At that point, clearly on the backfoot, our force retreats to the Northwest in order to stay out of the range of additional torpedo attacks until it's safe to return to base.
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cadeb7 No.16907448
We can now begin using the inclined belt design option. Choosing to do so improves the effective thickness of the belt armor by roughly 10%, but introduces the chance of long range hits partially bypassing the belt armor and striking the deck instead.
While I won't be able to get the next update out until some time tomorrow, it's probably going to be a rather major one, as we've got all of our carriers and a vast majority of our battle line present.
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cadeb7 No.16907449
>>16907448
Forgot the image
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cadeb7 No.16912188
Well, a potentially fantastic fleet battle was canceled because the weather turned bad and only broke right before sunset, so nothing ended up happening other than a German destroyer striking a mine.
We get an upgraded model of our flying boat, with generalized improvements. Looking at our current aircraft fleet, we can see we've got a mixture of aircraft from the late 20's and early 30's. Our torpedo bombers are quite outdated, but seem to be working alright. Our imported dive bombers have a rather poor bombload for the time, we could also prioritize replacing them. Alternatively, our oldest plane model is our floatplane scout which is long overdue for replacement. On the other hand, we could try and keep our fighters, medium bombers and flying boats ahead of everyone else by updating them more.
Which type of plane should we be upgrading?
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7ca47a No.16912230
>>16912188
I vote torpedo , since they are our best bang for buck. Second, scout so we can find enemy at greater ranges so we can vector in our new torpedo bombers to enemy capitals. We can get a neat hunter-killer thing going on.
Fighters seem to be O.K as is.
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8c0f41 No.16913008
>>16912188
If we can only do one at a time, let's focus on floatplanes first and torpedo bombers second.
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cadeb7 No.16913211
Our destroyers repel a German harassment of a convoy, although we lose one our own due to a drifting mine. We can now also built max size destroyers, at a size that's nearly a small cruiser. Our own subs are putting in their own efforts by the way, small DDs or KEs have been getting sunk fairly commonly, but I generally exclude those since they're mostly just converted civilian boats.
Our newest micro-battleship enters service, but unfortunately machinery fuck-ups means it can't make it's advertised top speed.
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cadeb7 No.16913233
Gun development continues, with a massive 480mm gun being developed for deployment. We get an offer for a new model of bomber. It's range and speed are improvements, but it is rather slower on the controls and a bit less durable. Should we accept it or stick with the 88s?
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d1fff9 No.16913319
>>16913233
Lets accept it, the poor reliability of the 88 stings.
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cadeb7 No.16913404
German submarines "accidently" sink another passenger liner, which causes the nations of the world to consider us as much more the good guys in this war. As a result Austria, the US and UK all allow us to purchase production licenses of their aircraft. Great Britian has a modern dive bomber and relatively recently designed floatplane, so we acquire plans for both. The floatplane, the Westland Whitley, is a mixed bag, having longer range but a less reliable engine. The Avro Audax dive bomber however, is a rather decent improvement, with a substantially higher bombload at max weight.
The Japanese are in the process of building a CV with a quite high speed and heavy AAA defenses, although a somewhat limited air capacity. But Italy has been creeping around in our business. Do we keep things discreet to handle Germany, or risk opening up another front?
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cadeb7 No.16914467
Our light cruiser Le Coq au Mer intercepts a German raider operating off of Norway, but it unfortunatly turns out to be a rather modern Hertha-class heavy cruiser. Heavily outgunned, Le Coq au Mer turns away and begins fleeing, but the German cruiser is able to keep pace. Shells splash down around our cruiser and it's not long before a couple find their marks.
Realizing that we won't be able to run from this fight, Le Coq au Mer attempts to replicate our previous success with torpedoes. Despite the hits, she launches a spread of her torpedoes at the Hertha-class. Their path looks true, but none manage to hit. Rather strangely, the Hertha then continues West and seems to depart the area. The respite is short lived, however, as it soon returns.
Le Coq au Mer has one set of torpedo tubes left, and looses them at the returning German cruiser. She continues to suffer hits from the 9" guns of the Hertha, but this time one of her torpedoes finds it's mark. The guns of the German ship are not silenced, however, and a few minutes after the torpedo strike the Le Coq au Mer is declared lost. The German cruiser suffers heavy flooding, but manages to limp back to port, with a major wound to show for her efforts.
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cadeb7 No.16914533
But the loss Le Coq au Mer will be the final loss we suffer from Communist Germany. After 52 months of war, the sinking of a French cruiser is not enough to placate the masses, who finally break the chains of gommunism and reinstate a democracy. Large amounts of economic reparations follow, giving us a major boost to our economy.
But while this war is over, preparations must be made for any future ones. Our torpedo bomber prototypes have arrived, which one should we take?
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8c0f41 No.16914578
>>16914533
MS.108 looks like the clear winner here.
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cadeb7 No.16914636
Air statistics are compiled, showing us what caused the most enemy shootdowns. Our new bombers enter service, but have some issues, as does our new super-battleship.
Italy seems to be giving imperialism another try, do we care about this?
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8c0f41 No.16914725
>>16914636
Let them take Yemen, we can steal it from them after the next war.
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cadeb7 No.16914762
A couple questions about our fleet are worth raising right now. We lost our new line of light cruisers, all three of them, during the war with Germany. As a result, it would probably be worth replacing them, as well as allowing us to get rid of the final legacy designs. Our carriers are also in a bit of an odd way. We have two modern designs, as well as two conversions that are showing their age. We could scrap the conversions and reallocate the funds to build modern designs that would more closely resemble the Gros Mec Pour Toi-class.
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cadeb7 No.16914763
>>16914762
Accidentally uploaded same image twice
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d1fff9 No.16915137
>>16914762
Updating our fleet seems like the right choice for now. Reconstruct some CL, replace our both old converted carriers. How are our ASW and minesweeping DDs going? Is it still worthwhile to build/upgrade BBs, or are we leaving the timeframe?
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cadeb7 No.16915168
New CL and CV designs are laid down, with the CV being a copy of the Les Elephant Terrible-class utilizing new tech. By doing so, it fits in four extra planes for no additional cost.
Even with the vanquishing of gommunism in Europe barely over, tensions are increasing in Asia of all places. Should we issue any rebuke to the Nips?
>>16915137
>How are our ASW and minesweeping DDs going?
For the last war we largely just used converted civilian craft for that, so they all got sold off after the war. We could create a line of small DDs for that purpose though.
>Is it still worthwhile to build/upgrade BBs, or are we leaving the timeframe?
Little of column A, little of B. We just introduced three BBs into our fleet, although two of them are small, single quad turret designs.
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0dfbb6 No.16915308
>>16915168
Nuke the nips. We should make sure we got some ships in southern Asia for potential war
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b0befa No.16915406
>>16915308
Can the nips still do a surprise strike at the beginning of the war Pearl Harbor style in this version? If so then having all our BBs and CVs in a single place might not be a good idea…
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cadeb7 No.16916605
New avenues of technology open up, as our newest class of CL begins to hit the waves. Tensions are middling, although Italy and Japan are both sabre rattling a bit. Do we wish to provoke a nation in particular, or just say first come first served?
took 7 captchas to get this
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9f0d72 No.16916621
>>16916605
Let's make sure we invest in that new tech group. Personally, I don't care so long as we fight Japan at least once this playthrough.
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cadeb7 No.16916645
A few minor events causes tensions to rise, including among Germany. The possibility off a 5th French-German war is looking more and more plausible.
Now, the question is: is Norway worth such a tiresome exchange?
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9f0d72 No.16916663
>>16916645
Sounds like a wonderful idea.
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3d10db No.16916739
>>16914533
>My named boat, le Coq au mer is the martyr to end germanic gommunism.
Bittersweet.
I don't believe Norway would be worth it; there is the distinct possibility we will be fighting 2 vs. 1 in the future.
If you need more names:
>Le Coq au guerre
>Canard de guerre
>Merde
>tabarnak
>le prophete mouhammad
>Petain did nothing wrong
>travail, famille, patrie
>athos
>porthos
>aramis
>d'artagnan
>planchet
>ceci nes pas une cible
>le marquis de sade
>dien bien phu-ck you
I'm kept up with heart palpitations; so go with "anon's heartbeat" for anything liable to die to a magazine rack.
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8c0f41 No.16916760
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cadeb7 No.16916895
In one hell of a fucking plot twist, our attempt to put a puppet government in Norway goes horribly wrong and ends up resulting in a British government instead. The North Sea is now essentially death to any ship that tries to sail against Great Britain. Our newest CV is commissioned and manages to make 29kts on it's sea trials. She has a aircraft capacity of 60 planes, what should the squadrons be composed of?
Tensions with Japan have gotten very bad, as have relations with the Italians. The Germans are looking nervous as always, but don't seem likely to make a move just yet. The British are in a similar situation, although they're much more threatening.
The discovery of a Japanese spy ring might be the final straw. A look at the Japanese fleet shows it in a mixed state. Their battleship force is essentially non-existent, with only a couple outdated models. They do have a sizable heavy cruiser force though which is much more modern than ours, although our own models are designed for local work. Their carrier force is a bit smaller than ours, but still threatening enough to be noted. Destroyers in their fleet are mostly modern, with all of them being at least somewhat competitive. A rather substantial submarine force is to be a bit nervous about, but we could likely crash-build a swarm of ASW ships.
How do we react to Japanese intelligence activities?
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909418 No.16916911
>>16916895
24 fighters, 18/18
Pretty sure the Japs can't launch much of a surprise attack given that they apparently have one ship with adjacency but we wouldn't really gain anything from fighting them, best to dodge it I think
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cadeb7 No.16916985
Several months pass, with tensions remaining high but with no hostilities breaking out. The Brits pull off a major aviation milestone, what should our reaction be?
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9f0d72 No.16917830
>>16916985
A little late, but no reason to piss off the Brits for now.
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61275f No.16921147
La Considérable Mort
Fish & Saxon Fries
Whipped Bavarian Cream
Save The Frogs
Trade Gouin For Goebbels
(Dive bomber) Carrier: Baka That Brass Up
(Battle-)Carrier: Bomber de Gaulle
>>16887632
>The Orson Welles ship is somewhat overweight
>keeps serving far, far into old age and gets converted several times
Like pottery.
>>16916985
We should have another go at Italy before taking Norway. A three month war just doesn't cut it.
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cadeb7 No.16922947
Apologizes for the long absence, wageslaving was busy.
When we last left off tensions were high and now our government would like to toss us more money. How should we proceed?
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9f0d72 No.16923018
>>16922947
Get that money printer started.
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cadeb7 No.16923079
Our increased military spending alarms pretty much every other nation, with Japan looking like the most likely belligerent. Can we beat the Nips?
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9f0d72 No.16923093
>>16923079
It certainly seems that way.
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cadeb7 No.16923129
With our assurances, our formal declaration of war is issued. We currently have a small force of ships in SouthEast Asia, so they'll have to hold out while our reinforcement fleet makes the trip from Europe. Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride and an escort force will be the first to take action, making a move against Japanese assets near Formosa. At dawn a wave of recon seaplanes and carrier aircraft takes wing in search of targets.
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9f0d72 No.16924071
>>16923129
Have we constructed any airbases in the area?
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d99b8a No.16928271
>>16923129
It may be worth it to disengage if we are in range of Japanese air bases (or avoid those battles).
I say we fight engagements in poor weather to neutralize the possibility of getting yeeted by their numerical superiority if it shows.
Also names (for any):
>Guillotine sans frontiers
>Distributed baguette handbasket delivery service
>Wine carousel launcher
>retraite du combat
>Petain's re-education service
>Castration revelation
>Boil your bottoms
>Burning English since 1076
>Free HE for the PCF
Capital ships:
>Bend over for Jeanne
>Spirit of kraut disarmament
>Applying Pascal
>Peace via CAG power
>Longgus schlongus
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4eda25 No.16929227
>>16923129
I agree with our Admirals, we should delay until our fleet arives. How is the local situation, considering naval bases and airports?
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cadeb7 No.16929657
Sorry for the long absence, the wagie cagie was harsh this last week.
Despite two waves of search planes, no sighting report is made on Japanese ships until late in the afternoon, too late to launch a strike. The action thus ends with no combat.
The next month however, things begin to move much more rapidly. Our relief force is still circumnavigating Africa, resulting in Japan having a numerical superiority in the Southeast Asian region. While none of their battleships can currently hope to stand toe-to-toe with even our nearly decade-old Suck My Iowang-classes currently deployed to the region, their cruiser force is significantly larger and stronger. Worse still, all of our current heavy cruiser models are only suited to local operations around Europe. It is perhaps this perceived advantage that emboldens the Japanese, as an invasion force consisting of a significant chunk of the Japanese Navy and multiple troop transport ships is spotted assembling near Formosa.
The action begins in the early morning, soon after dawn. Our forces are in a dispersed formation, with the light carrier Ahhh The French Champagne Excellence providing cover to the main force of surface ships, while the carrier Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride operates to the East. As a result of this dispersion, a crossing formation of scout flights can be made, which should spot out any Japanese ships with ease. But when the spotting reports come in, they're rather alarming.
As expected, a large force of several cruisers, a battleship and a multiple troop transports is reported by multiple pilots. But to the North of that, barely ahead of Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride's current course is a report of two enemy carriers and escorts. Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride may not be entirely unarmed or unarmored, but a gunnery duel with our only carrier in the region is not something that's appealing. 'Mr. Pinochet's Wild Ride turns back to the Northeast while her escorts continue onwards, but these ships never manage to find the supposed Jap carriers, lending credence to the idea that the report was in error.
Our surface force, consisting of the battleships Les Bains and her sister ship My Guns Are Not The Only 16 On This Ship, two light cruisers We keep what we baguette and Bud Light Against Humanity, and several escorts makes contact with the enemy main force. In theory, this surface action should be rather simple. The most powerful surface ship in the Japanese Navy is a badly outdated battleship carrying 13" guns, something the armor of the Suck My Iowang-class should not have trouble defeating. Similarly, the eight and nine inch guns of their heavy cruisers should barely be able to scratch them.
At first contact, it looks as if this will be the case. While it takes some time for our battleships to range their shots, the very first hit landed by Les Bains punches through the 3.5" belt of the Azuma and detonates the ship's magazines, sending nearly eleven-thousand tons of Japanese folded steel to the bottom.
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cadeb7 No.16929660
Soon after the detonation of the Jap cruiser, our air strikes begin arriving from our carriers. While they make decent effort, very few hits are scored and those that are are mostly are from the outdated Toryu dive bombers, rather than the more modern Audax model we purchased from the British. (Ironically, the Toryu dive bomber is currently in service in both our Navy and Japan's, although theirs is rather more modernized) Still, these attacks cause distruption among the Japanese force, with quickly becomes rather jumbled.
Of some worry is that the location of the Japanese carriers has yet to be determined. Adding to this concern is reports from our land base that Japanese bombers are attacking patrol vessels in the area, landing a pair of hits on a colonial gunboat for some damage. But while the Japs are harassing that, the real battle is taking place on the surface.
As our battleships press the attack, contact is made with the Suwo, the largest surface combatant the Japanese have. One would expect, that a lone and badly outdated battleship standing against two ships nearly 15 years younger would stand no chance, but the Suwo puts up a surprisingly good fight. While Les Bains takes very little damage, My Guns Are Not The Only 16 On This Ship suffers a number of damaging hits, including a fire breaking out on deck that takes some serious effort to put out. While the ship is never in danger of sinking, it does take quite some punishment.
Despite all that, the Suwo is not suited to fight our ships, her slow speed and lackluster armament means she can do little that be torn apart by our ship's guns. It is worth noting however, that the sloped deck design bean that her armor was able to stand up to some hits that otherwise would not be expected. It is ironically not flooding that destroys her, but raging fires on board that spread out of control. While the loss of the Suwo could be expected, it is not the only loss the Japanese will face. Another heavy cruiser, the ninteen-thousand ton Izumo is sunk, while the Aso seems to limp away but eventually succumbs to her wounds.
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cadeb7 No.16929661
The Japanese offensive is repulsed, with no real losses on our side. Truth be told, I'm curious ask to how the Japanese AI is going to advance from this point. I've never seem them let a surface force get this outdated.
>>16924071
>>16929227
Airbases are under construction, we should be fine as far as naval basing, since we've got both all of Veitnam and some ex-German islands.
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61275f No.16929662
>>16929661
Getting the double atomic whammy surely must've helped them in the long run if this is how they would've ended up without any resistance. That, and the bombing of Tokyo, but that's more the brit's style. Which is to say, ICBMs when?
But until atomics are secured, we should advance towards Formosa and push an advantage.
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daf120 No.16929749
Another round of named for Jap War
Anime Was A Mistake
Enola Whale
Splitin' Atom On Jap
ONE THOUSAND TIMES FOLDED BAGUETTE
Tall Boy-In-A-Can
Paris Express
Also, if anybody is interested in RtW2 I found it on rutracker*org. Site is is Vodkarunes but anybody above room temperature IQ should figure it out.
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cadeb7 No.16929779
While the military situation has taken a good turn, the politician front is much less rosy. Franklin torpedoes a cruiser ship, pissing the British and Germans off to no end. This puts us in a rather odd position. Our reinforcement fleet is nearly to Asia, but it might be required to fight on the home front. Considering the rather weak surface force that the Japanese have, it may be worthwhile to send some of our older but still strong battleships, and recall the modern ones we deployed.
On the other hand, we could potentially bring about a very quick peace treaty. What shall it be?
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d99b8a No.16929795
>>16929779
Japan is a not our major concern. We should be more focused on another regime change in kraut land and removing eternal anglo
BTW are we moving to keyring
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cadeb7 No.16929816
As expected, the Japanese are more than willing to forfeit basing rights on the island of Formosa in exchange for us not sinking what remains of their Navy. A short war, but one that cost us essentially nothing.
Several months pass in rather calm, but late in the year an international air race is proposed to be held in England. Should we support our national aircraft manufacturers in producing a racing plane?
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cadeb7 No.16929844
>>16929795
also, I've been out of the loop, keyring?
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61275f No.16929891
>>16929816
Fuck it, give them double; The SR-71 needs to be developed early.
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909418 No.16929929
Missile update is out, apparently
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cadeb7 No.16929946
Despite the best efforts of French designers, the Germans prove to have the best aircraft. But we aren't lagging behind technologically, as we begin fitting of our first practical radar sets onto ships in the fleet, as well as gaining the option to utilize oxygen fueled torpedoes. These have somewhat higher performance, but are also much more volatile, potentially leading to heavy damage to any ship carrying them if they're hit. We upgrade our fighters with a badly needed new model, selecting the LeO.126 as it's range is vastly superior to the other.
To our South, Italy undergoes a coup, with a fascist regime taking control. Time will tell what this will lead to.
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cadeb7 No.16929947
One month into Italian fasism and they're already spouting off nonsense about being the "Sons of Rome" and "Restoring the Empire". Should we firmly tell them no, or let them have their fun?
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61275f No.16929949
>>16929947
Time to punt some degos again. Ultimatum, we can handle this ourselves – once our ships get back.
In fact, add some names for anti-Italian ships:
Le Dego Prego
Baguette Beget Spaget
Prosciutto Shooter
Flaming Faggots
Fire In The Profiterole Hole
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cadeb7 No.16929958
Italy must be feeling pretty damn lucky, as they move forward with the plan. But we're barely done with that crisis when another arises. Are we pissing off the US?
Also, we've got a nice budget surplus, might we consider building up our heavy cruisers?
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61275f No.16929961
>>16929958
Cruisin' for a bruisin'. The US doesn't really have many colonies, do they? May as well go for option 2, we shouldn't be fighting on three fronts. Yet.
I'd equip some CLs or DDs with those brand spankin' new oxygen torpedoes. It won't be as much of a loss if they explode due to faulty munitions (and the oxygen torpedoes better be faulty this early on). Apart from that, go for another CA.
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909418 No.16929983
>>16929958
The Panama Canal is open by now, they're closer to our Asian colonies than we are. No reason to go bringing trouble on ourselves.
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cadeb7 No.16930003
Included is a map of where US territories overlap with our own. The Philippines would appear to be the major target, but we also hold a colony in the Caribbean. I've also provided a CA design for consideration. Most every other nation has gone to 9 and 10" gunned CAs, leaving our 8" models a bit undergunned. Does this seem like a worthwhile design, or should we go for something more conventional?
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61275f No.16930012
>>16930003
Ooh no, best not to irritate the wasp's nest. The Carribean base would be useful for staging, and it should be nice and defended just in case, but the US has just as much potential to take out colonies as we do theirs. CA's fine, "conventional" is for suckers.
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cadeb7 No.16930018
Japan occupies Shanghai, then immediately tries to do the same to South Korea a month later. Should we let them build their little Asian empire?
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909418 No.16930020
>>16930003
I like that design just because of how unusual it is.
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61275f No.16930027
>>16930018
Fuck no. U-turn those long-range fleets and head right back for Tokyo.
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cadeb7 No.16930196
It would seem that the Japanese assume that will no basing in their home waters we can't pose a threat to them and proceeds to occupy South Korea.
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cadeb7 No.16930197
>>16930196
Did not mean to post without pointing out we can now chose to design our ships with torpedo reloads and that we've got a foreign policy choice to make.
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61275f No.16930293
>>16930196
Divert attention to the Japanese, of course.
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8c0f41 No.16930462
>>16929844
see >>16928189
8kun is dead, long live fatchan.
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61275f No.16930464
>>16930462
fuck off retard
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cadeb7 No.16930659
Additional torpedo research comes through, which makes the idea of a torpedo cruiser much more viable. In addition, the largest possible guns, 20" in caliber, also unlocks. They're heavy and pretty slow to fire, but they hurt.
Following the rise of fascism within Germany, the political situation starts to deteriorate. What's our response?
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61275f No.16930663
>>16930659
A fast light torpedo cruiser wouldn't be a bad idea, especially if our future foe's still got a massive hardon for huge battleships. But don't stick your weiner in the Balkans, ever. Only Yugoslavia can pull itself together, not even God won't sort them out.
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909418 No.16930672
>>16930659
Where the fuck is Germany's tonnage?
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cadeb7 No.16930683
While we call for peace in the Balkans, things continue to get worse. We could try and defuse it through a peace conference or just get them to back down. We're not building any major ships beyond CAs, so the peace conference might be a decent idea.
Which shall it be?
>>16930672
Here's how much of it we've sunken, plus a half dozen CLs, tons of DDs and the usual mix of KE/AMC. Keep in mind that for the last decade or so they've been a democracy after we kicked out the commies, so their funding was limited.
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61275f No.16931393
>>16930683
This could land us another war with Germany while they're still weak as fuck. I guess it's time to stick our dick in the cutter ant anthill that is the Balkans. It could be another very quick war, and it'd allow us to mess about with new torpedoes some more.
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388ee4 No.16931523
>>16930672
>Where the fuck is Germany's tonnage?
On the bottom of the ocean,baby.
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cadeb7 No.16931714
Adventures in the Balkans are just as fun as ever, riling up both the fascist countries of Germany and Italy. Even if we've got to fight a two front war we'd be at rough parity with both forces, although our cruiser force hasn't been deployed just yet.
How are we responding this time?
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17e661 No.16931843
Give us the zip / torrent / magnet, anon
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cadeb7 No.16932035
The middling option is still enough to set Germany off and we enter the…sixth(?) war with the now Fascist Germans. War in 1940 has evolved though, and our first battle, a short two weeks before Christmas sees us engaging the Kreigsmarine in a carrier battle with our entire major carrier force participating. The Germans shouldn't be underestimated here, they themselves have three fleet carriers and an assortment of light carriers to back them up. Of course, this battle might be muted by the fact that it's currently a low overcast, limiting air operations to practically nothing.
Are we autosaging? If so I might hold off until getting a new thread made for the last decade or two.
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61275f No.16932094
Doesn't look like an autosage. Right?
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61275f No.16932098
No, it is. May as well make a new thread whenever you're around for the next one.
>>16932035
This is definitely an opportunity for our non-carriers to shine, however. We no longer have the air advantage, so we should make the best we can out of shit weather with massive fucking battleships.
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d99b8a No.16933448
>>16932035
I say take the CA and most of the DDs and rush the germans. If you are wondering, lots of people moved since admin decided to start yeeting people and boards cause he wants to clean the site up for qboomers
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c3e750 No.16936177
How hard is this to get into compared to Aurora?
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355423 No.16938041
Rule the Skies when?
>>16883081
>>16883318
Check cs.rin.ru you can download version 1.11 DRM free
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355423 No.16938043
>>16936177
Easier than Aurora, just check the wiki and manual and ask some questions on 4chan and 8chan /gsg/
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