/v/ - Video Games

>Paradox fires all its writers

Can I get a sauce on that? Sounds delicious.

>>15740396

Yeah, last month. They ate shit on that World of Darkness project years ago, it's the reason EVE ever got the captain's quarters.

>>15740352

I haven't paid attention to the WoD since the late 90's if this shit is true then there aren't enough Nelson gifs on the internet to point and laugh at this.

White Wolf products were always full of radical leftist talking points and courted that crowd, it's just that in their rush to be 'inclusive' they let in more and more hysterical morons who want to stick it to their 'judgemental' Christian parents while being cut from the exact same cloth. This trend will continue because fools are their own worst enemies.

>>15740382

>>15740352

World of darkness always been Proto-SJW trash for goth kids too feel special. Wake me up when we get a new dark sun game.

>>15740382

>I still don't understand how the fuck do they keep releasing historically authentic GSG without pozzing them completely.

Did you miss EU:IV's women in history update or something?

I haven't read any of their books, but weren't they always off the deep-end, as either angry furry hippies or goth kids fighting "the man"?

>>15740441

The worst part is, Dust 514 was actually good, it was fun, the weapons were interesting, the fitting system worked and you could do so much fun shit with it. But the game died exclusively due to CCP being dumb.

>>15740456

i dont think you get "international incident" is not an overstatement. The Chechnyan government sent out squads to hunt down rpg distributors.

>>15740466

Not saying they were always this bad, just that the signs seemed to have been there.

>>15740466

What do they care if somebody makes shitty vampire fanfiction?

>>15740466

>The Chechnyan government sent out squads to hunt down rpg distributors.

sauce?

>>15740466

>The Chechnyan government sent out squads to hunt down rpg distributors.

Source? Can't find shit myself, aside from a two-part 40mins-each youtube segment that I'm not gonna sit through to get to the bottom of it.

>>15740542

Nigger I know you have your grudge against Mark, but can you spoiler that shit please? I was trying to have dinner.

>>15740523

Trying to blame Americans for this, heh.

>>15740523

https://en.crimerussia.com/gromkie-dela/chechens-hate-vampire-the-masquerade-game-for-sultan-ramzan-character/

> Alvi Karimov, the Spokesman for Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov, said that the game developers "decided to promote the popularity of Chechnya and its leadership." At the same time, he believes that the creators of the game pursued a “political goal.” "This is a continuation of the campaign to slander Russia and Chechnya," said Karimov. "I am sure that the same organization that claimed about the persecution of sexual minorities stands behind it."

>>15740352

Whats wrong with Internet Historian?

>>15740621

>for your reading pleasure

This shit makes the a good alternative to medicine when you need to vomit.

>>15740621

… Coincidentally, this makes me want to play a Nazi Ventrue Knight even more, if only to spite the writer.

>>15740621

>blaming the Other, conforming to norms and fighting for a grand purpose

The fact that they don't think they do this is endlessly amusing, they still pretend like they are rebels and not part of a popular self-righteous idealism pushed by culture controllers and big money for decades.

>>15740352

>get woke about the murdering of gays in Chechnya but write that the Camarilla are behind it as a right wing vampire psyop

can someone elaborate more about what really happen irl and what White Wolf wrote instead?

why did the Chechnyan goverment get involved?

>inb4 spoonfeeding

WoD was always the most pozzed and had the most obnoxious faggots playing it. I've played a lot of tabletop games and one of the players in my current group used to do WoD as his primary jam. He was good at roleplaying and enjoyed it, but said "the worst part about playing White Wolf games is all the fags you have to play with." He said he couldn't count how many players he'd seen with the exact same backstory as Batman (parents died, went to prison but it's okay because somehow they are still rich when they get out). He even ran a hardcore roleplaying WoD MUD at one point that took place in the 15th century. He has told quite a few good stories from that one. Shadowrun is a similar boat, unfortunately.

>>15740625

Huh? Nothing. OP is saying it's a monumental fuckup worthy of it.

Wait, wait, what about the Werewolf the Apocalypse game? Please anon, I've just wanted a god damn werewolf game forever. I was expecting 2 before but Bloodborne ended up being almost entirely about Lovecraft and The Order was so bad you forgot it existed until you read this sentence. The last thing even remotely werewolf related was fucking Skyrim, please tell me Cyanide is still putting out their game.

>>15740441

This shit is probably why they've never managed to grow as a company

>>15740621

So Jews are blood-sucking Vampires? wew lad.

>>15740352

>Theres go woke, go broke but this is to take it even further beyond like some parody of itself.

Get woke, go choke.

>>15740392

>imblying

CCP does nothing with EVE profits but build entire new studios for games that never make it out of development or bomb catastrophically, then fires them all (and some of its unrelated EVE devs for good measure) and tries again. They did it at least four or five times before being bought out. Almost none of the money EVE makes actually goes into developing the game.

>>15741039

I remember a bunch of that. Shame too, as dry as nWoD was, there were some interesting concepts in the splats. Melissadae, Morotrophians, Qedeshah, etc. had some spark to them.

>>15741082

>far right doesn't want to sign because it's killing gays

>far left doesn't want to sign because it's islam

>>15741080

Only good thing to come out of nWoD was Promethean and Genius

>>15741058

There have been lots of things that could be considered proto-SJW but the difference was that in the old days leftwingers could generally keep their aspergers under control and make products that were fun and enjoyable.

>>15741058

Familiar with some of their other stuff, but it's pretty much been VtM for a long while (though I'd love to play in a consistent Mage The Ascension Game).

Also what >>15741107 said. It was a lot easier to ignore some of the flavor text and just play my character however.

>>15741090

Princess and Rider are good too

>be me

>fairly new to tabletops

>hey anon you should play this game with us

>ok I'm an inquisition priest who was turned by a vampire and am forced to live as a mockery of everything i once stood for. I spend my time in quiet contemplation or actively hunting violators of the masquerade or anything that threatens innocents. I tolerate the power structure in place because I see it better than the alternative.

>slaughtering enemies until the storyteller just starts describing everyone as really good at swordplay

>derpy groundhog day story

>plot armor snowflake npc's everywhere

>get disinvited cuz the other players don't like my man of action character. They just want to derp around.

I didn't realize it wasn't a combat game, I had played the vampire computer game and thought that was what I could expect. I also didn't realize how my character slaughtering degenerates would be anathema to the average person attracted to that game. They did me a favor, but at the time it hurt. Father samuel will be realized again.

>>15741153

Partially sounds like your ST didn't know how to set up social situations for a combat oriented character, let alone one dedicated to moralism. That shit's on him

>>15741153

Sounds a bit like a Scourge's nightly routine.

And yeah, Vampire tends more toward the role play as opposed to roll play.

>>15741039

Good read. It just vindicates what we already know here; businesses have zero grasp on how to make a good game.

>>15741167

I don't think so. No need to defend myself on an anonymous Malaysian cross stitching forum, but I get what you are saying.

>>15741070

>and then a writer turned out to be a rapist

Are SJWs the worst people on earth? At least mudslimes are usually honest about their intentions.

>>15741294

Calm your tits, Autism-o, it's a way of speaking.

>>15741331

I had the general impression all of the old hands being unwilling to work with White Wolf OR Onyx Path do to both repeatedly failing to honor paychecks.

>>15741372

Tabletop writers never made that much money, even when White Wolf was at it's peak you'd make an equal amount by the end of the year, if not that then more money, at a McJob. Most of the worst elements in nWoD and cWoD people think are new writers (or some other old writers who did not return) are actually old cWoD writers who were just faggots the whole time or slowly drank the SJW Kool Aid. In fact Onyx Path doesn't even have a hand in 5e writing at all their involvement stops at 20th anniversary then they just stick with their nWoD product and whatever else they've got under their wing.

>>15741188

For me, I just didn't understand it as well back then, now I see it was the same shit and this is its inevitable conclusion. The people involved have increasingly less talent and more insanity because those types of fantasies innately attract people who despise those who have any grace and push them out. Pandering to women and other attention seeking faggots who need a fashion to make an identity will always be a race to the bottom. Little bit of rebellion to shock the system is good, but at some point you need to grow up and try to actually understand the things you were mindlessly rebelling against, as it is an unsustainable state.

>>15740445

it wasn't just the Chechnya govenment stuff that caused it, the SJW were pissed as well. See, Chechnya muslims are the one group you're suppose to call homophobic because they're white-ish. If WW had used a more brownish group of muslims for this, they'd be cheering it.

>>15741188

Was goth culture even popular among blacks in the 90s?

>>15741440

>actually using the bing bing wahoo meme

Fuck off back to cuckchan

>>15741440

Why are you here then?

Filtered

>>15741442

there was a small group blacks that wanted to be white, yes. Most of them switched to being black weaboos once file sharing made anime more accessible though.

Idk why but I actually find this pretty funny

>>15740523

Here's one from RT. They are really butthurt at this https://archive.is/UmqpO

>>15741153

every group is different, the group matters far more than the game. but it just so happens that there is a strong correlation between wod and faggots who do nothing but write fluff about their boring fucking characters

>>15740392

We would have fucking had Project Vaulderie if it weren't for CCP.

>>15740399

The character creation tools they made were fucking great. I made a dead-ringer for Christina Hendricks as my pilot.

>>15741954

>trying

You don't even know. MTG is extremely cucked to the point where it's starting to infect basic design (BUT COUNTERING SPELLS IS UNFUN!) as well as art and lore. Pathfinder and other RPGs have been ultra-cucked for years. Warhammer has a goddamn CHILDREN'S BOOK SERIES coming out. Let that digest for a fucking moment.

>>15742040

>Warhammer has a goddamn CHILDREN'S BOOK SERIES coming out

Nothing will ever cuck geedubs, that's just another experiment in fishing for more shmucks, one that's already being wound down due to lack of revenue. GW has done lots of awful things, but none of them are motivated by politics or the wishes of anybody, customer or otherwise, because GW is powered exclusively by pure, naked, unfeeling greed.

>>15740466

Say what you want about Muslims, but they're smart for drawing the line early. This shit occurs in the US (muh drumpf is Hitler incarnate) and it only radicalizes mentally ill leftists to attack, cheat, and dox people for their gain because they're handicapped enough to believe that fiction mirrors reality.

You what they did after the house victory? They were emboldened to attack Tucker Carlson. These people can only unfortunately remain civil through force and I'm glad that Chechnya is fishing for their heads. No one needs that trash propaganda in any country.

>>15740352

>Becomes legitimate international incident

And people wonder why leftists routinely end up in concentration camps.

>Books cancelled

>Games cancelled

>Paradox fires all writers

>White Wolf puts out statement that Paradox has forbidden them from ever writing world of darkness books again

It almost makes me believe there is a God out there.

>>15742171

>Have you opened a capeshit comic book lately?

good point. but even what I saw there was less blatant. maybe I stopped too early…

This is fucking hilarious. The entire setting had been pozzed from the start, only getting worse with each iteration. I'm glad it's dead.

>>15742200

"she" in manuals etc has been done for years all over the place tho

World of Darkness was always the RPG of choice for mentally ill freaks. White Wolf and Paradox deserve each other.

>>15742222

Sadly, the mentally ill freaks have a wealth of options in terms of RPGs today.

>>15740621

God, I'll be so glad when these faggots all turn tranny, chop their dicks off, and kill themselves.

>>15742244

I just wish for WoD to stay dead. There's no salvaging it after year of pozz and idiocy of this magnitude.

>>15742256

I'll never get to play as the paranormal branch of the SS, hunting down Jewish vampires on the Eastern Front while decked in runic armor.

>>15740352

Hilarious.

>>15740382

>how the fuck do they keep releasing historically authentic GSG without pozzing them completely.

>Ally with the evil child-eating nazis

>Hitler goes for Maginot's line

>Japan does absolutely braindead shit and loses to chinks

>national democuck democrat of Poland (Dmowski) is now a demagogue fascist because ???

http://mondoagram.com/5aVN

Nobody should be surprised that a product whose intended audience was nerdy 90s punks and goths is left leaning. But even in old WoD they never outright told the GM what people he should let play the game.

>>15742402

You can always take shit like Achtung Cthulhu and just play the "bad" guys

>>15742248

How could they dump so much of their EVE revenues into other projects to branch out, only to pull funds from those projects specifically because they aren't contributing to EVE!?

That's some "eating your seed corn"-grade moronity

>>15740352

I have no idea what any of this is, but it sounds hilarious.

>>15742437

it's the tabletop game that Vampire Bloodlines was based off of

>>15742342

>adventure and wonder

I've been saying it for a long time now, GW simply doesn't get 40k, or even Fantasy for that matter.

>>15742397

>But even in old WoD they never outright told the GM what people he should let play the game.

At least oWoD writers had enough self-awareness to grasp the whole "woe is me" the monsters constantly kvetch about is mostly bullshit to justify all the horrific things they do.

>>15741954

As always tabletop is a refuge for people who can't hack vidya

>>15742493

>leigh alexander

completely forget about that vegetable brain. didn't she write some stuff for FFG's android? curious how pozzed that is…

>>15740352

>>White Wolf puts out statement that Paradox has forbidden them from ever writing world of darkness books again

And this is why you stay away from big companies, or at least ones like fucking paradox.

>'make' a game

>haha yeah it's ok but it'll be even better when you buy and download all our 347 dlcs for only an additional one thousand dollars!

t.ck2

>>15742751

They'll send you needles with HIV in mail

>>15742751

The Chechen death squads are being dispatched.

behead those who insult CHECHNYA

>>15742816

>infiltrating tabletop games

There is absolutely nothing to 'infiltrate', the tabletop industry has been a safe haven for these people since the 90s, and it's a big reason so many modern day nerds are cool with social justice.

Are there any other sources that aren't SJW infested? I can't find any.

>>15742432

Also apparently they weren't to keen on everyone doing what they always wanted to do in Masquerade in the alpha phase, Diablerie. Diablerie everywhere.

>>15742163

Nice job rewriting history, dipshit. You run and hide in another thread to shittalk because you were btfo. No one was arguing that women are stronger than men, just that women being used as soldiers to illustrate the grimdark of the setting isn’t unreasonable. It’s not “look who stronk womyn are” it’s “look how horrible the world of this setting must be that they have to use women as cannon fodder” You are using Jewish tactics straight out of Mein Kampf, “all they could recall was that they had won the arguement and their point had been accepted, gradually I began to hate them.”

>>15742194

>digging up alien technology

If the Mechanicus finds out, they'll either be paying her big bucks or servitorizing the fuck out of them when they stop being useful.

>>15743275

>most don't really give a fuck and the ones that do aren't exactly the type organizing protest marches

Useless marches would be preferable to willingly funding industries for the cockroaches to thrive within and corrupt youth with fantasies that distort their worldview.

>>15742091

>Gary Gygax sends Games Workshop copy of D&D for business solicitation

>unknown to him the company was just 3 people

>they become obsessed with D&D

I've read this about Games Workshop's origins. Is it true?

What if I want to be a nazi vampire? :(

>>15743307

I’m betting on the latter, seeing as their group consists of a Xenos lover, a deserter from the Imperial Guard, and a Heretech who’s been tampering with Necron Scarabs to use them as personal assistants. But then again this is the soft soap 40kiddies book with Ultrasmurfs saving the day so Matt Ward can get his nut.

>>15742163

>Nothing will ever cuck geedubs

Nothing will because just like WoD anyone sane has already jumped ship.

GW is in the business of selling plastic crack to addicts. Fuck them.

They don't make games. They haven't released a decent game in decades, hell they've intentionally SQUASHED some of the only good, popular, games they ever released. Battlefleet Gothic? Necromunda?

40k universe stopped when they decided that they wanted the weeb money and added the T'au to the lore breaking every little bit of coherence the setting had left, everything since that day should be considered a non-canon fork to the purist.

What makes 40k fun is it's community of gloriously mad 30 to 40's single fa/tg/uys that will never bother with politics because they're too busy thinning paints and doing the 100 bazillions figs they have in their backlogs.

>>15743516

>Is it true?

It is.

Same as X-com series and 40k are distant cousins or how Warcraft/Starcraft is a literal WFB/W40k bootleg.

>>15742887

Well, yes and no. A big part of tabletop rpg's was the idea of simulating as much as possible. So the rules have always been written to be as open as possible for people to do what they want to with their games. There are example kingdoms that have all manner of different social and political hierarchies as well as races with strict or very lax social norms.

I would argue that there has been an 'infiltration' recently for lack of a better term. Where-as previously the most 'progressive' change was mostly removing stat adjustments for sex, recently there has been a massive influx of very vocal politically motivated people that are flooding tabletops with extreme political views. While this tactic hasn't affected the larger culture as much, mostly because tabletop rpg's have always been a massive pile of shit that you pick out the diamond mechanics and ideas out of and this was just more added to the pile. Hell, I would even argue that the idea of 'gender roles' in a magical world where you could literally have true sex changes occur might be an interesting thing to have. However, there has also been a recent attempt to constrict discussion and usage around problematic content as these people see it. That's how the fucked up news story for this thread even came into existence. This is an extremely new trend and as open and inviting as tabletops have traditionally been just to get more people to play, it's been causing a lot of people to really speak up against it. Not on 'Officially Sponsored Youtube Channel staring former Charmed actress…' sites of course, but pretty much everywhere I talk to actual people playing the games it's near universally reviled. Though that may just be a byproduct of the gaming groups that I know of.

>>15740804

Too bad they're ragheads.

>>15744019

I'd rather have Chechens than liberals.

>>15744132

Chechens are trash just like liberals.

>>15744139

One group throws faggots off rooftops, the other group wants the faggots to rape your children.

>>15744152

Islamists don't rape kids?

>>15744164

I haven't heard of Chechen grooming gangs.

>>15744169

They rape and kill anybody that comes across them, just google chechen rape and you'll find a full list of their "accomplishments".

>>15744190

I'm not American.

>>15742263

The funny thing about the whole thing is that when they wrote Berlin by Night in '93 they actually took a pretty even handed approach to the Nazis, having Himmler survive as a Tremere Antribu and even having him escape the ambush that killed the vast majority of the other Tremere Antribu to survive into Gehenna and hinting at Hitler surviving as a vampire.

>>15740621

reminds me of the whole Beast the whatever fiasco

>>15740420

> hysterical morons who want to stick it to their 'judgemental' Christian parents while being cut from the exact same cloth

truth

>>15740621

The entire point of the Camarilla is to be a Fascist movement.

It's a group of people that concentrate power in an oligarchy to control all it's subjects because "they know best".

VtM always had "fascism" in that way, with the Anarchs fighting against it as well.

Funny enough, the previous lore that featured this actually took the time to show the upsides to the Camarilla. How an hierarchy and private interests help to create security and peace.

Fundamentally, the question at that time is "are you willing to submit your freedom in exchange for a more peacefull unlife?" with the Anarchs being the foil to them.

This was presenting different political ideologies by showing you what they are and what their effects on the world are, both good and bad, and then letting you decide on your own.

And yet a few years later, we have a bunch of stupid faggots that don't even know what fascism is telling us that VtM has no place for it, or that the player must always redeem or destroy the fascists.

Absolutely brutal.

>>15740446

>play modern civ game

>poorly rendered, edgeless cartoon faces abound

>they all have perfect teeth lol no

>disabled mystery meat trans advisor of colour

>perfect in every way

>"Give away everything"

>"No borders"

>"Urgh you think you're the king but nuh-uh"

>"NEVER use my deadname you shitlord!"

>"FUCKING WHITE MEN LIKE YOU should ALL be dead"

>uninstall

>manual deletion of registry entries just to be sure

The lazy cartooning of everything is bad enough without us approaching critical poz on top.

>>15745209

Facism means the same as Hater or Troll to them. "People i dont agree with that i want to checkmate in debates i know im losing"

>>15745238

What? This is really what the advisers do in Civ 6?

>>15740621

The resounding hypocrisy of the first lines just utterly undermine everything they have to say. I would deliberately play a hardline fascist in the face of such a pointless rule just on the principle of the thing.

>>15745238

You lost me at ">Give away everything", the rest is literally gibberish to me, what the fuck kind of DLC have they released?

>>15745238

It's sad to see what has become of the Civilization franchise. It used to be one of my favorite PC series, but, it's been over a decade since they made a good one.

Friendly reminder that the last good Civ game was IV, and the best one was Alpha Centauri. None of the generic, soulless modern Civs even come close.

>>15745304

Does Sid even have any control over the games other than creative direction?

>>15745209

Totalitarianism is not the same as Fascism. Fascism is Marxism but with Families.

>>15745268

*advisors.

>>15745357

No, that's what I'm saying, advisors, advise.

>>15745361

and ministers decide

>>15742040

>>15741954

Unfortunately, they are beyond trying. In fact, they've gotten a pretty stable foothold in the "indie" segment of /tg/ hobbies because the production barriers are so much lower, and the kickstarter boom has caused several low-effort printing services to pop up across the country. Now any faggot who can follow basic instructions can get their game to kickstarter and produced without much trouble, giving them infinitely more credibility and e-peen points than any kind of indie game dev.

>>15743153

Thing is if you reach the point where you're using women as cannon fodder then you're dead in a generation anyways because you're crippling your population growth. The Imperium has been around for thousands of years. It is obviously never going to throw women to the front lines. Any commander who tried to do that would be executed for wasting the Imperium's wombs.

Now a retarded person might chime in here with "but muh soviets!" and the fact is that the Soviet Union never used women as cannon fodder; they did use women as prostitutes for their officers and in propaganda roles (similar to Kurds today)

Even Germany, when they were fighting a desperate last stand and putting guns in the hands of kids, and were aware of the American Morgenthau Plan to genocide all ethnic Germans, did not conscript women to fight, because that would be throwing away any hope of recovery even in the event that they did somehow manage to get a white peace.

If the Imperium was using women as cannon fodder they'd have been overrun by any number of xenos or chaos forces thousands of years ago. It would be completely idiotic. The Imperium doesn't lack for manpower (Imperial Guard) precisely because their women are hard at work having lots of children instead of dying in battle and not giving birth to more soldiers.

>>15745776

>original documents of the Morgenthau Plan literally preserved in the FDR Presidential Library and Museum

>HURR ITS NAZI PROPAGANDA

I hate to call jew, but there's no way you could actually be this stupid and still operate a computer.

Faggots ruin everything. Absolutely everything, "let em' get married" they screamed "They'll stop being huge faggots" people insisted.

NOPE

>>15745550

I know he had full control in the early titles, I was curious about why the fuck he would let the shit in the newer ones fog the overall content of the game like it does.

>>15745931

He lost control as early on as Call to Power, that he has even the slightest influence over subsequent games is largely a result of the prestige from Alpha Centauri.

>>15745937

>spew a bunch of incoherent shit

>get completely blown the fuck out

>"BAAAAAAW WHY WON'T /pol/ ENTERTAIN MY RETARDATION

>>15745238

>perfect teeth

Don't people have super healthy, straight white teeth if they don't consume sugar? I know my teeth have gotten way better since I all but stopped eating anything with sugar in it you know what I mean, added sugar.

>>15745980

Not white (human teeth are naturally slightly yellow; Americans like to use artificial whitening toothpaste) or straight (largely genetic, and braces have been sabotaging this by letting people with inferior genes come off as having good teeth and succeeding better at reproducing) but absolutely healthy without excess sugar consumption. Before the discovery of sugar cane in the new world, people's teeth were generally in good condition without the need for toothpaste. Additionally, consuming foods such as nuts naturally helps to clean your teeth off due to mild abrasive action.

>>15745776

>>15745937

Far be it from me to derail from shitting on White Wolf, but it was not 'Nazi propaganda.' The memorandum was real, and was authored by the Jewish treasurer Henry J. Morgenthau, in total contravention of the duties of the foreign offices, and agreed to without the approval or awareness of the rest of the cabinet at the Quebec Conference. It came quite close to being fully implemented, and was only derailed by a combination of massive public backlash, the exceptionally successful use of the clear terms set out by the memorandum to inspire last-ditch resistance in Germany by Dr. Goebbels (it turns out an industrial nation doesn't like the idea of having 40% of its population be exterminated by being reduced to a bombed out agrarian rump state that can't feed itself nor buy its sustenance anymore) and the fact that Roosevelt fucking died before it could be implemented, annulling its agreement.

And before that, Roosevelt had read the document he'd signed in detail over again, or rather had it read to him by Henry L. Stimson, who was horrified at the contents and the fact Roosevelt had lied to him outright about the contents, and the former then realized 'oh fuck even I can't go through with this.' Again, this is coming from Henry 'Nips, hands off my flips' Stimson. Henry fucking Stimson, the self-declared 'oriental potentate' of the Philippines and pathologically anti-Japanese jingo, who did everything in his power by conspiracy and bad faith diplomacy to force a war in the Pacific that would break the grip of high civilization on the entire region and hand over just about all of continental Asia to communism, was horrified at the contents and implications of the Morgenthau Plan, as was his equally responsible cohort Roosevelt.

Morgenthau was so dead-set on this plan, because he was a Jew of the rankest and foulest sort with deep pockets and deep influence, that even after Roosevelt died and the original, formal memorandum fell out of effect, that in the immediate occupation plans and implementation under German hater Dwight D. Eisenhower- 'the terrible Swedish Jew'- the plan was effectively snuck in under JCS directive 1067, which Morgenthau would gloatingly hope that 'someone doesn't recognize it as the Morgenthau Plan.' That plan was for Germany to be left hanging, with no attempt or allowance for any economic rehabilitation, and the only efforts being 'that starvation, disease and civil unrest were to be kept below such levels where they would pose a danger to the troops of occupation.' Living standards were to be intentionally forced down to below the level of the previously Axis-occupied nations out of spite. No industrial production was allowed in any meaningful area. Millions of German prisoners of war were starved to death in open-air camps or worked to death by the French and Soviets while the civilians were left to live like animals in the ruins, kept on petty lifeline rations.

This was only overturned in mid 1947, after two years of destructive occupation, when JCS 1779 was approved and put forward with the statement that 'An orderly, prosperous Europe requires the economic contributions of a stable and productive Germany.' The Morgenthau boys as they were called still managed to massively sabotage its implementation by destroying the entire German banking system, breaking all relations between all banks, stopping all inter-bank credit flow, and essentially making any long term financial planning impossible until the damage could be undone, resigning en masse as soon as they were finished. This, 'thus preventing the rehabilitation of German industry and with immediate adverse effects on the economy in the US occupation zone.' All because a clique of kikes refused to allow the sympathies of goyim to get in the way of their triumphalist murder-by-policy.

This is all on Wikipedia's article. Kikepedia. This is all so thoroughly on the up and up, is known with such undeniable and uncomfortable clarity, existing on the clearnet and in the enemy-approved postwar history books, that while the enemy will certainly try their hardest not to mention any of it, no one except for the most idiotic Hasbara shit or whinging third-world darkie transplant would have the gall to deny the existence of the Morgenthau plan as a document and as the effectively implemented occupation policy of psychotic anti-Germanists, filthy Jews and those in their pockets all, who would go on to kill Patton and lay the foundations for the wrecking of the whole of civilization by inches through capitalist-communist dichotomy, 'practical idealism,' and frog-boiling misery, when uncoordination between the Jews' half-puppet figureheads killed the dream of an immediately and totally communized Europe and a world federation as fantasized in Kaufman's 'Germany Must Perish!' or the Gomberg map.

>>15743107

What did they expect? Especially given their experience with EVE.

>>15741291

>At least mudslimes are usually honest about their intentions.

They really aren't.

>>15740429

I know it's late but for some reason I never bothered to look at this thread and

oh no no no no no

>>15746020

Some people even used little tree twigs snapped off of a tree and cut into fine filaments to clean their teeth, it's known as miswaak.

>>15747128

>You know, I'm curious how many anons here would actually be up for playing a good old fashioned game of Vampire the Masquerade. You guys think there's enough players and interest to get a text based game going? The Roll20 community is pretty pozzed but I don't see why the map and dicerolling system on it wouldn't work for a game of OWoD if we just invite anons.

I'd be interested in playing in this. Finding players shouldn't be hard if you're willing to run the game.

>>15747128

Might be worth a go. Been a long time since I've gotten to tabletop a Vampire character.

>>15741954

You should see what they did to the new Warhammer fatnasy Roleplay game.

>>15745653

I had one of these faggots who was working at a gas station trying to recruit me to come design figures for his table top game. All because I was talking about scuplture with a girl in line.

Fucking manlets.

>>15749594

the fact that he thought you were approachable enough and looked like you were willing to do it says volumes about you

>talking about sculpture with a girl in line

more like you being an autistic retard

>>15740621

The fuck is this?

In most fictions vamps, or any long lived creature for that matter, tend to be fairly set in their ways. Centries of life has had them set in their ways, and often adhering to the customs and formality of the old world they came from. So the series being focused on Vamps somehow being the progressive thing is fucking confusing. A creature that long lived has no need to innovate, and would certainly gain more in the long run from suppression and control, what with the whole being a monster that needs to feed on the blood of mortals thing.

We're never gonna get a Mage the Awakening game are we?

>>15749620

>t. incel

reported ;)

>>15749662

With those writers, would you even want a new one? I can already envision how they'd fuck with it.

> Your mage is super special awesome.

> You have to bash the fash man!

> Those Technocracy fascists are ruining everything!

> Trump Hit Marks.

> Using your sexuality as a focus.

>>15740466

The word is "Chechen", fuckwit

>>15749663

>muh incels

fuck off back to 4channel

>>15750326

>impotent

>6 matches

lol someone is projecting hard

>>15746492

What did they expect? I don't know, not even White Wolf knows. The guy over seeing (I forgot his name) everything kept rejecting what he was shown and demanding changes weith vague demands, he clearly had no idea what he wanted. The Diablerie fun was the few times when they had anything playable for a showcase and the guy didn't like players seeing what Cannon Diablerie looks like.

>>15750615

At the moment, most nights. Schedule will probably change in the next month, but looking toward late Wednesdays and Thursdays. Will probably have an update later.

>>15750615

>What nights are you two free?

I run a different game on Fridays, that occasionally has to shift to Saturdays because of scheduling issues. However, I do that relatively early in the afternoon because we've got people all over the world, so it could be possible for me to play afterward if we start late enough. I could probably commit to 9 PM central time on those nights without any serious problem, I'd just have to get stricter about making sure to end my other session on time. I don't have any regular commitments on Sundays or weekdays after about 7 PM, so any day can be made to work.

>>15750409

I forgot about that, but the people above him, and people working for the company, should have realized that at least a good portion of players are going to go for that option as soon as they realize it exists. It is the exact thing EVE players would do.

>>15740352

But world of darkness already had a chapter on trigger warnings and one on ableism in the rule books. The vampire book also featured such stunning and brave imagery like faggots making out for the chapter about how someone gets turned into a vampire and niggers everywhere. I'm pretty sure there's no way it could become any more cucked.

>>15750754

I shouldn't have posted without reading the thread. They were very capable of making it even more cucked.

Goddamn, son

What is even going on in /tg/

On the plus side, with all the faggots gone we might finally get some Hunter games.

I'd give my left nut and both of a shitlib's kidneys for a tactical FPS/management sim about running a cell of Ascending Ones.

>>15742248

As a former EVE player from way back in the day, I was so disappointed with the Walking in Stations debacle. So many years of anticipation, only to result in absolutely fuck all, with what little they did implement pretty much getting removed after I stopped playing if I recall correctly. Then we had the Dust 514 debacle. PS3 exclusive, what the hell were they thinking?

>>15750914

they are less competitive than us by nature so were an easier target for infestation and colonisation.

>>15740352

>>15740466

BASED PUTIN

>>15751167

I don't think anyone really "misunderstands" the supernaturals of the World of Darkness. Maybe the writers, but I think most of the players know exactly what they're getting into.

>>15750966

>>15751167

Speaking Hunter, are there any good video games where you play as a typical monster hunter or occult detective in modern times? Where the challenge is as much figuring out what you're dealing with and finding a weakness as it is actually killing it?

> bash the fash

>Fash

>>15753237

How to purify your table:

Step 1: 'today we are playing the demo campaign for Nechronica'

There is no Step 2.

>>15753428

I've yet to see a jttrpg that had a balanced sample campaign. Double Cross actually will kill your party because the enemy is leagues stronger than the sample characters.

>inb4 jewtube, both invidio and hooktube give the clicks to jewtube

>>15755166

Then webm it, you fucking cuckold.

>>15755166

>>15755351

It's arch, why would anyone have a problem?

>>15740466

>>15740523

>>15740620

>game with blatant propaganda shut down

they deserved it

Oh look, kake kike deleting by IP again.

Really though, WW and Paradox deserve each other. It's like two strains of pozz combining to fork super AIDS. You can bet your asses that the Werewolf game will be an utter disaster.

>>15753362

Persona is one that I can think about, but it isn't a typical one. I guess It is easier to find this kind of thing in books.

>>15742592

Its a game about role playing as a fucking vampire, why wouldn't you want to do this kind of shit? Why can't I feed the skins of the inferior non tremere vamps to my enslaved werewolf thralls while the bruja faggot in question screams themselves to the final death?

>>15745209

That has nothing to do with fascism.

>>15757536

Explain

>>15745209

Fascism requries concentration of power within the hands of a single individual; it opposes oligarchal command structure.

Fascism isn't synonymous with 'controlling everything'.

>>15757551

Fascism is a is a ultranationalistic totalitarian set of ideas and policies. What you describe is just a group of powerful entities that try to influence society. In other words, one is dictator driven and the other is jew driven.

Of course, one can make the case that if the oligarchs have the opportunity they will be the dictators, but the fact that they are only trying to influence and manipulate society instead of outright saying what must or must not be done, even if they probably could seize power using their wealth, means that they are fine with not being the official heads of state. They also don't have to be nationalistic or follow any of the ideas fascism defends.

>>15757581

>>15757589

Also this. But I could see some form of parliamentarian fascism. I don't know, the world of politics is strange.

>>15757581

>Fascism requires concentration of power within the hands of a single individual

Which individual did Rome concentrate power in for the entire period of it being fascist?

>>15757589

By this definition the Soviet union was fascist.

>>15747128

This, I'd be up for it

>>15757621

No, they were totalitarian. Just as nazis.

>>15757628

>FOR MOTHER RUSSIA!!

C'mon.

>>15757621

Rome was never fascist. Just because the symbolism came from there doesn't mean that it's the same ideology.

Also, the USSR wasn't fascist because the concentration of power within one individual is only one aspect of it; another aspect is nationalism, which the USSR at first opposed, then reluctantly allowed to a limited extent. The USSR was founded by kikes who explicitly opposed all nationalism.

>>15757642

This to some extent, but I do believe Communist Russia was very nationalistic.

>>15757639

>nationalistic

>dislike of outsiders (capitalist subversives)

>complete control of economics

So that guys definition of fascist with socialist (not communist because the state still existed) economic policies. So fascist.

>>15757642

I disagree, the idea of Rome was the thing the Romans were taught to exalt above all other things, its very similar, Italian fascism wasn't based on race and it was still fascism. And I'm thinking more of Stalinist Russia. Lev Bronstien deserved that icepick.

>>15757647

This

>>15757665

Its propaganda. Nationalism and fascism have to be dirty words because oy vey, shut it down. At the same time they want the Soviets to be the good guys during ww2 because muh nassys despite them being basically the same.

>>15757674

>being basically the same.

Not entirely, Germany was not as expansionist as Russia, less aggressive as well, but yeah, pretty much both were Nationalist entities.

In fact Stalin tried to exile jews to a far eastern part of Russia so they wouldn't be a problem, just as Germany did to Judea and then when they tried to get them to Madagascar.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast#Jewish_settlement_in_the_region

But going back to World of Darkness I think its fair to say that the Camarilla put vampires above humans in the same way that any fascist state would put their own ethnic group/nation above others. They may have vampires that are sympathetic read pussy faggots towards humans but that doesn't mean they'd destroy themselves for humans like western nations are now. They are fascistic and theres nothing wrong with that.

>>15757814

make a roll20 game for it but don't post a direct link. Anyone that wants to play can find it without being hand held and it prevents shitting up a game people want to play.

>>15757814

>Dead

We aint dead, just dreaming.

>>15757858

ehhhh, Britain declared it. Germany were probably just trying to defend their people who were all of a sudden citizens of Poland after they redrew the maps from the treaty of Versailles.

>>15757589

>>15757581

>>15757600

historically the fascistic single-party regime has been totally vertical. the fact that they don't nominally control industry actors doesn't really mean anything when the compliance of the business is fully coerced, if they aren't outright calling themselves state corporatists, so yes, fascism is still essentially 'controlling everything'. in realistic terms the main divisor between fascist totalitarians and gommies is in their social policies in their economics of distribution. ultranationlist regimes in motion differ more on paper than in practice.

oligarchy, like fascism, describes the concentration of control just as much as it does method, and >jooz fall into the definition of oligopoly since they're not principally political actors. an oligarchy explicitly privileges only a small group with that authority, but we're just a highly defective republic.

parliamentary fascism makes as much sense as 'jumbo shrimp'–it's a single-party state, and we aren't talking about structure or cameralism. top-down planning with bottom-up delegation removes full autonomy from the state regime and is totally contrary to the anti-liberalism of the ideology. fascism is principally defined by its disenfranchisement.

>>15757864

Couldn't the German citizens in Poland just move to Germany?

>>15757871

They definitely had laws allowing them into the German state but they did go for whatever reason, trying to find information on actions against them is hard for obvious reasons, can't have provocations against the Germans easily available goy.

>>15757896

Also this.

>>15757908

> In his speech titled "On Several Reasons for the Lag in Soviet Dramaturgy" at a plenary session of the board of the Soviet Writers' Union in December 1948, Alexander Fadeyev equated the cosmopolitans with the Jews. In this campaign against the "rootless cosmopolitan", many leading Jewish writers and artists were killed. Terms like "rootless cosmopolitans", "bourgeois cosmopolitans", and "individuals devoid of nation or tribe" appeared in newspapers.

In every nation they exist in

>>15757908

Neither of them started the holocaust because it never fucking happened.

>>15757928

SOON

>>15757892

Thats….. Literally V5. You know, the game that this thread is watching implode and burn? Fuck it. I mean, hey, who am I to stand in the way of fun. Shine on you crazy bastard.

>>15757844

If I make it public, that opens up the Roll20 community to finding it. Trust me. You don't want that. You haven't seen the shit I've seen. Those folks there are like if /d/, /tg/, /leftypol/, and /b/ had a soy fueled orgy, one of them got pregnant, had a kid, and nobody knew who the father was. And then the kid starts soliciting those 4 for sex, to compare dicks in hopes of finding his real father.

The fact that the furies are the more respectable members of that site should speak volumes.

Once I'm done with the campaign idea synopsis, I'll post the game pitch PDF with a disposable email you guys can contact me with. That way I can filter out shitters, if any. (Not like my standards are high, but I do have some.) From there we can get people connected to the Roll20 game + discord. Shouldn't be much more then a day or two for the pdf to be done, then I can start setting up the game in R20.

This is also all assuming that I'm the ST. Which I can do, but if that's the case, get ready for a long fucking wait for the first game to actually start. Like, game setup and chargen for all players probably won't be done till January.

>>15758030

>This is also all assuming that I'm the ST

I'd volunteer, but I already GM one weekly game and have no experience with this system. I don't mind waiting.

>>15758326

The old guy that's nostalgic of the USSR supports a different type of communism than the actual cuck. These guys are like pol, just with a slightly different set of economic policies. They were alone in the world for a lot of time and it ended up meaning that if you defended Russia you were defending communism and if you defended communism you were defending Russia.

The people you talk about is also pretty abundant.

>>15757664

This. At least it's not as bad as Ken Ashcorp's younger days, when he affected a terrible "posh Brit" accent on top of literally USING A VOICECHANGER to deepen his voice by a couple octaves.

>>15758563

>doesnt want a werewolf mommy who goes on adventures and takes you with.

>>15758573

>>doesnt want a werewolf mommy who goes on adventures and takes you with and also fuck after

>>15758529

Hey, that's kemono! Totally safe and adorable furry content.

>>15758601

I can hear the inquisition in the halls.

>>15758607

>gay

>furry

>pedo

Gonna need more rope.

>>15741467

That pic, how old is it?

>>15758601

>kemono

>safe

I've come to hate kemono faggots because they act like their shit still doesn't stink, but they get off to all the same crap.

>>15758878

From the days of chanology.

>>15755888

>I guess It is easier to find this kind of thing in books

Yeah, it's kind of a shame. A game where you investigate attacks, figure out what you're dealing with, arm yourself to deal with it and go hunt the creature down sounds like a concept that would have been done at least once.

>>15758686

Gonna need to clean quick then, these infections go deep.

>>15760989

TOR needs to be disabled on this board

>>15760992

TOR and proxies need to be disabled everywhere for a time. They just attract the kind of individuals that derail a thread.

>>15769043

Mages get the benefit of consensus reality and Werewolves cause racial PTSD but also have to worry about much bigger things than their own kind a lot of the time.

>>15769021

Just make a fucking cockmail address. They're free, they're not associated with any organizations, and it's not like you need it for anything else.

>>15769076

I actually like the concepts in Mummy a lot, but it was abandoned far too early and didn't get the same level of care as their other games.

>>15769021

Alright, resending.

>>15769043

controversial opinion: Changeling: the lost is the most underrated.

>>15740352

>Paradox fires all writers

Eh? I though they were megajews

>>15769043

>Muh Mages and Daemons

Vid Related: How to deal with supernaturals.

I agree with you that Hunters are scarier then vampires, but for different reason then you. Vampires rule the World of Darkness for one primary reason - Humans are the apex predators of the world, and vampires wield humans like a weapon. Hunters are humans with extra benefits, that's what makes them so damn terrifying. Ghosts and Demons, for all their crazy powers, are stuck bound to their fetters or obelisk or whatever, or are are forced to possess weak willed humans. Pentex alone has completely fucked over the werewolves with 200 years of human science, where millennia of banes and supernaturals could not. Mages can't even properly cast next to groups of humans normally. Changelings don't matter in the grand scheme of things, and mummies have been losing to a SINGLE CLAN of vampires for Millennia, because vampires are better at wielding humanity.

The only supernatural force that can handle humanity and consistently come out on top are vampires, and they do it by picking their battles. The Masquerade allows them to do this. Likewise, the only force on the planet that is a daily threat to vampires are humans. Which is why hunters are so damn scary to vampires. Part of the reason why V5 is such a nonsensical train wreck is that they acknowledge the importance of the masquerade in this way, and yet the Camarilla have been almost completely wiped out. If the second inquisition is as nasty as its been written to be, the Camarilla should be the only power group left, if any at all, BECAUSE of the Masquerade. Instead, its the anarchs, for no other reason then "Fuck the Fasch".

The reason vampires don't care about powerlevels is because they don't have to. They've already catastrophically buttfucked all their opposition except humanity, which they need to coexist with in order to survive. Vamps still need to eat, after all.

So go ahead, have fun with your magic and superpowers. The vampire players are a bit busy ruling the fucking world.

>>15771748

>This is what out of shape, ageing millenium cybergoths believe after getting too old to go to 'the club' which now plays music thats strange and confusing to them and young goth women with daddy issues dont want someone older than their daddy.

>>15771748

I didn't really bother to read much of fifth ed, but they honestly tried pulling that shit?

There was another group, By Night Studios, that were doing some LARP conversions of vampire, and their take on a "Second Inquisition" (or rather, The Nights of Turmoil) made a lot more sense.

The Camarilla pretty much stayed the same. Didn't lose or gain as much ground. Sure there was some turnover (Justicar Pascek got axed), and Karsh is now Imperator, but they're stable for the most part. Oh yeah, they have some sort of Ceasefire with the Sabbat going, so the situation is sort of a cold war scenario.

The Anarchs made gains because they have their ears to the ground and could tell the ass kicking was coming. They were able to get the Camarilla to at least acknowledge their presence overall. So they're in a better position politically (which coincidentally threatens the core aesthetic of the Anarchs ironically enough).

The Sabbat pretty much got their asses handed to them royally. Heavy losses overall, corruption in the Black Hand (as told by the Sabbat Inquisition), and lost cities. They got a new Regent who wants to keep the Black Hand small and filled with his own clan (He's Gangrel Anti).

Overall, it's a better environment and makes for better play.

I really wish I could stop giving a shit about any of this but the modern world seems determined to hunt me down and try and force me to live by some sort of bizarre neoliberal worldview

>>15740466

Chechnya is run by a literal warlord that’s buddies with Putin. It’s not even close to an exaggeration he has cut peoples heads off and had it displayed in public.

>>15776011

just a matter of time till the pendulum swings back, which makes the whole sjw shit so much more retarded - the harder you push the harder the reaction will be. simple action/reaction.

bigger question is how it will swing back and what the collateral will be…

>>15740352

>Not posting an archive

What the fuck is wrong with you fucking lazy niggers?

https://archive.fo/OvDp9

>>15776296

>not wanting to give paradox clicks for WW's deserved obituary

>>15776338

Archive still needs to be posted, in case Paradox re-words the fucking thing.

>>15776799

In old canon (like pre-2000) WWII SS were always Hunters and Mages manipulated by Lasombra wagging a proxy war on Camarilla.

The Camarilla ultimately won.

It fits so fucking well (the church helps the Nazi escape, Italy switching sides with the Giovanni being Giovanni, the Nazis targeted specific groups that are linked to secondaries clans Ravnos -> gypsies, Tremere -> free masons, Malkav -> Handicapped, Toreadors -> Degenerates, etc…,)

>>15776799

Vampires are literal Jews, anon. There's no such thing as a Nazi Jew, except probably all of the NSDAP's high ranking officers for some reason.

>>15742171

<As mentioned elsewhere in this book, ze and zir are gender-neutral pronoun alternatives to they/their

What's the gender of they/their?

>>15742171

But what if I'm eating people ironically as an artistic statement which is a profound metaphor for being gay? Ever thought about that, you bigot?

>>15776368

true, good point

>>15776799

Why do weebs have to ruin everything?

>>15760454

>That artist is Taiwanese, so it'd be chow.

But under pressure from the United States, Taiwan was one of the first country in Asia to make eating dogs and cats illegal?

>>15746020

>>15745980

Fluoride is an acidic aluminum processing byproduct btw, avoid it

>>15745238

Prove any part of this, everything you quoted is too ridiculous to be real.

>>15797266

None of that happens in Civ VI. There's only one advisor. All she does is explain to beginners how to play. You can disable her entirely. It remains to be seen if they try something like that in VII.

>>15741954

Leigh really had delusions of grandeur, honestly I think she would have undone herself even if GG never happened.

>>15798784

wtf I'm a feminist now

>>15798933

It's a joke, retard.

>>15799047

National Socialism is inherently feminist, a good kind of feminism that promotes good mothers and healthy families.

>>15749662

>>15749740

My sister does mages with her friends and they had a joke that Trump was either a Vampire or Melania's ghoul but they were 100% joking and didn't mention it in game, in part perhaps becuase they are in england, well most of the time they are in the abyss really.

>>15742887

Most "nerds" are SJWs today because older ones can remember stupid shit in the 90s like people thinking fantasy games were satanic or being upset at Kiss (the band). The modern SJW shit is largely a reaction to that, where everyone adopts the same methodology but with a different ideology.

>>15740621

>or even pre-modern ideals like feudal rule.

Whats wrong with that, it was the best thing around.

The age of money really is shit.

>>15757896

>loose war and loose territory as a result

>get upset over the loss and start another war

>loose that one too and get divided so you can't start another war

nazi germany had it coming, start shit get hit

also: VIDEO GAMES

>>15799925

>reddit spacing

>doesn't actually address anything of the post he's responding to

>thinks Hitler was the bad guy

>types like a nigger

Checks out.

>>15799891

Most people introduced to tabletop is through university, the hub of brainwashing.

>>15740352

It's better off dead.

>>15740429

they're a Swedish company.

I WONDER WHY

>>15811725

Kadyrov also has 5000.man strong guerilla unit of devout commandos

>>15811920

>>15811725

Kadyrov is a russian puppet, Putin doesn't give a fuck what he does in his banana republic as long as he stays an obedient dog. He encourages typical muslim faggotry and his country main export are retarded terrorists.

>>15799936

>WWI

>6 bajillion

>Germany did nuttin wrong

To think afterdrumpf /pol/ could become even more retarded!

>>15812076

>Kadyrov is a Russian puppet

You dont say!

He's officially a Putins subordinate you retarded animal.