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>>33922 (chek'd)

I'm fucking retarded I thought it was broken and wasn't letting me post.

To start things off I gotta be honest with you guys, a couple of my thinkin' thoughts have changed.

Way back when when I was thinking of events and when I was really starting to actually work on this idea I was coming off a 40k spree and I might've accidentally partially somewhat viewed the oldguard of Mandalorians, the basic Crusaders, under the green-tinted glasses of orks from 40k. In other words,

>no tactics, mindless berserkers, sorta dumbasses, luv a good krumpin

In hindsight its pretty fucking gay to just dumb them down to those basic traits.

I've decided to rectify that

From now on I'll be taking massive inspiration for the Crusaders from some of the barbar cultures that existed and plagued our very own history. In order of images it goes

>britons, thracians, celtiberians, huns, gaelic celts

I couldn't find a not-shit image of them so I left out the early Magyar raiders that got BTFO by Otto of Eastern Francia but some inspirations from them will also exist. What this is means is I'll look at the foundations of these cultures/take some of the more interesting pieces of it and frankensteining it onto some Crusader clans to give them more flavor.

>celtic warpaint = some clans, often considered suicidal and retarded by others, discourage the usage of armor and decorate themselves with paints (some acidic) to show their valor, while one slightly more modernized clan paints their armor as afterall beskar'gam is a second skin

>celtiberians having a hard on for antennas on their swords = some clans being almost 100% melee-centric and they use both low and high-tech swords with pronged pommels

>britons loving chariots = some clans are more basilisk, starship, and jump-pack inclined then others

>huns burning shit like slant-eyed nogs = some clans are just bigger assholes and tend to be more scorched earth than others who view their zealousness as wasteful since they annihilate any prospects of looting

The point of doing this is not only to give Crusaders more variety and distinction but also to inadvertently compare and contrast them with the Neo-Crusaders even more, as some of Neo-Crusader doctrines have been ripped straight from the clans of old that they seek to improve upon. (Also to literally contrast them, like how the hunnic clans destroy EVERYTHING their enemy left behind and Neo-Crusaders loot EVERYTHING and put it to use)

>>33924

>From now on I'll be taking massive inspiration for the Crusaders from some of the barbar cultures that existed and plagued our very own history. In order of images it goes

[Designated Comfy Thread]

>>33924

These clans differences are also partially caused by astrographic (I guess, space geography) placement. During their countless crusades the Mandalorians have managed to establish pockets of their culture all over this section of space, and while they only technically have any true control of a small pocket (the sector known as 'Mandalorian Space') that doesn't change the fact that shards of the clans exist in satellite communities around their sector.

I came up with this for a few reasons, one being it ties into the clan differences and two being that I have a really fucking hard time seeing the ENTIRE/majority of Mandalorians living inside that tiny tiny sector, especially as according to the lore they even had outposts as far as fucking Dxun (which is a lot more than just a hop skip and basilisk jump away) but despite that the Republic managed to halt their expansion for a few galactic years by putting a space fence made of starships around a corner of their domain.

That's dumb

The yellow represents the more mundane clans/standard ones, the ones who have a knack for everything including starship piloting and basilisk riding. They're for the most part more basic and Crusader-y

>red

The batshit insane berserk ones that paint themselves in acidic paints that scar their flesh different colors in warped and confusing patterns the patterns are definitely not bastardized Old Sith ones that they adopted due to their proximity to Sith space like Yavin 4 and Dromund Kaas

They're mostly melee-centric but when they do bring guns its usually in the form of massive overbearing firepower like sawed-off ballistic slugthrowers that's equally good at punching bowling ball sized holes in things as it is at snapping your wrist, or huge fuckoff cannons that really ought to be on an anti-grav assembly or a bipod but nonetheless found their way into the bloodraged hands of a Gordian clansman. (I'm just using the Gordian Reach's name to describe the overall demographic here)

To show off their colorful acid wounds they tend to forsake above-the-belt armor and view those that do partake in their natural survival instincts to be sort of pussies, this alongside their batshit tendencies lead the other Mandalorians to consider them slightly off putting and heathens as they forsake the tradition of covering your ass with as much lightsaber-denying space mithril as possible.

Sort of ironically though, despite their heightened bloodthirstiness they are substantially more open to non-Taung members, even those who species-wide haven't exactly proven their people to be the most dangerous creatures to take a shit in this Galaxy. (look up Mantellian Giants to see a rare exception of non-Taung being accepted into a Crusade)

This blatant lack of traditional spirit also leads to the Gordian clans getting looked down upon by their more civilized brethren, but it also means that they literally NEVER have a shortage of men. (This openness and blatant willing to die spirit is what Cassus Fett took from them to add to the New Way)

>orange

The celtiberian guys. Proximity to the Thanium Worlds and Tionese (who I'll be later treating as space Medieval Italy and Space pirate Byzantines respectively later on) lead to these guys developing a maritime tradition and knack for close-quarters combat that'd make them famous later on.

Forced by Tionese raiders to learn how to properly fend off a boarding action and later how to conduct a nigh perfect boarding action and having their gauntleted hands metaphorically pushed into using high-tech blade weaponry to defeat the Thanium's thick armor (they developed these traits back when blasters were sort of peashooters and vibro tech was the only reliable way of challenging armor) they ended up creating a fairly unique culture built around the usage of their curved vibro-shortswords that are basically space kopis vibrators.

>>33922

>TOR Alternative Ideas 2

Oh shit. Looks like I have a lot of new reading to do.

>>33960

I would imagine in a cramped close quarters environment like the halls of a spaceship, using a melee weapon like a short vibrosword would be more advantageous to use than a full rifle. Combined with Crusader/Neo-Crusader armor being able to tank a few blaster bolts before closing in, then Republic crewmen and security forces who aren't much more armed than PSFs during the RotE era would have a tough time fighting off people in a CQB situation they aren't trained for.

One thing about Crusaders and Neo Crusaders though. Could the differences between them be because they are composed of different species, with the Taung idea of warfare being essentially a space Mongol horde, with the Neo Crusaders melding old Crusader-styles of war (basilisk droids, melee weapons) and melding it with more organized doctrine similar to the Republic?

Sorry for not posting much recently anons, things have been a little hectic. But hey, I'm here to write entertainment not excuses.

In all honesty I haven't been thinking too heavily about this project but I did have an idea that I'll be sharing in this post.

The actual character arcs that I was thinking about for our two main Jedi boys, Revan and the Exile, are similar in that they revolve around change and arguably corruption but the shifts in personality and character are spurred by very different stressors and catalysts that ultimately leads one to a paradigm shift and the other into becoming a literal husk of himself.

Just to recap for those that forgot and for those now joining us, I noticed that Revan doesn't actually have a name before he took up the mask (AKA none of the writers that added to this setting bothered giving him one, and I can't blame them because for the most part it was unnecessary for their projects) so I decided to give him one.

<Tau Upsil

I'll run down the list on why again.

>greek letters

I decided to go with the greek words because of a few reasons, for starters what they mean. "Tau" (T-OW) means rebirth or resurrection, which is very fitting for Revan's character because this fucker literally has at least 3 "rebirths" in just the span of the time going from the Mando Wars to KOTOR, and "Upsil" is "Upsilon" with the last few words shaved off. Upsilon represents a fork in the road/choices, and Revan's path is one that has one Helluva lot of twists and turns, so I thought it was fitting.

Then there's the whole WHY greek part, as in how it fits in with the Galaxy. I decided to make Revan a native to the Cronese civilization over in the Tion Cluster, since I'm treating the Tionese as spess byzantines with a knack for interstellar piracy and the Cronese as basically space Anitolians (AKA Turkey before Turkroaches) I did this because Revan is said to be from the Outer Rim and, bingo, the Tion Cluster's right there, and because its really close to Ossus, and since Arren Kae/Kreia was his master and she was a librarian and Ossus was the Jedi's premier library it all sorta fits together. (Plus Bioware's model of Revan, despite not being cool scar guy, looks sorta hellenic)

Tau's reasons for going off to fight the Mandalorians has a lot of layers to it, on one hand he left because the Republic he cared for deeply was being annihilated by space barbarian cunts riding robo-horses with blasters for faces but there's also a hint of narcissism hiding underneath his pragmatism, sheer force of personality, and overall sophisticated demeanor tempered by years of service as a Jedi knight that leads him to feel almost insulted, almost on the defensive, when the Jedi council refuses to aid the Republic.

Up to this point Tau'd spent most of his adult life trying to stabilize the chaotic and torrential Outer Rim, playing a massive part in conflicts like the Tionese Affair (a power struggle over in the Tion Cluster where multiple cold warring factions were all vying for control of the now splintering region, with one side backed by the Tionese's age old hate-fuckbuddies the hutts and the other composed of the supposedly less corrupt but equally inept Tionese oldguard) and now the Jedi were supposed to sit back and jerk off to holovids of that same Outer Rim getting raped and razed by a herd of greenskinned slant-eyed crusaders.

Here's a visual I thought of to help describe what is to come,

"In the deepest reaches of his pristinely sorted and organized mind lied the mirror. A colossal marvel stretching to the heavens and horizons, stainless and just as smooth to the touch as it was to the eyes. A feat of technological mastery and an almost industrial grace, not a single blemish existed on its perfect ivory face. It was the Republic, and it was beautiful."

That's how Tau sees the Republic in his minds eye, a paragon of civilization and civility, of military and might. But when the Mandalorian Wars begin the first cracks in the bigass white wall begin to form, 'if the Republic's so great then why is it losing?' The Republic has the industrial, technological, and population advantage over the Mandalorians but despite all of that how come they are failing?

Tau has the humility to not wave around his accomplishments and supposed flawlessness, remember him and Malak were often referred to as the Order's rising stars and they definitely fucking earned that title, but he lacked the humility to NOT believe in his own honestly justified hype, and this is where problems start to sprout up.

For those unaware, the timeline of the early Mando Wars is a pain in the ass to cooperate with.

It is explicity stated that when Revan was bumbling around on Cathar searching for evidence of the cat-nogs near-genocide committed by the Mandalorians way back when (another example of Mandalorians acting with practical impunity without the Jedi or Republic stepping in to fucking stop them LONG BEFORE the Mando Wars even started, so you gotta remember that Mandalorian raids have been a common occurence for at least a few decades) Serroco was getting some thermo-nuclear loving from none other than Mandalore the Ultimate, and the Jedi Exile was apparently just there to see it. Just, chilling.

No info on whether or not he participated in the actual battle rape* the Republic fleet endured, but what we do know is that when the Republic really coulda fucking used him, Revan was poking around in the dirt.

But hey this isn't all that bad

>>34085

Revan's actions weren't all that popular with the Jedi Council, so you can't really blame him for doing everything he could to legitimatize his actions as the Council was prepared to literally ARREST him and the other Revanchists if they refused to give up his crusade, so if he didn't want the biggest fuckheads in the Order to be tailing his every breath and knocking on the latrine door every time he took a shit it makes sense for him to find evidence of the danger the Mandalorians represented so at the VERY least he could present it to the Council and get them off his ass.

And, like most things he tries, he fucking did it! He not only found zero Cathar on Cathar and a whole lot of cat bones in the ocean, sorta like checking the dumpsters outside a Chinese place He found a… Mask Yeah some Mandos have masks, not helmets. Sorta fucking stupid I know and used his abilities awarded to him by Papa Unifying Force to show the absolutely brutal deaths of the Cathar people at the hands of good ol' Cassus Fett, who was salty that some Cathar clawed up his space sofa or something.

>mission accomplished

Evidence of Mandalorians being, y'know, Mandalorians was apparently just enough to legitimatize Revan's efforts in the eyes of the Council, or at least Vrook, as in the comic he takes his guys and fucks off, leaving the Revanchists to pursue their mission despite ACTIVELY denouncing it later on.

Some things happen back home, the staunchly Anti-Mandalorian Wars Jedi Master Dorjander Kace (second picture) was booted off the council for… Reasons?

Sorry its been so long since I've posted on this Kel'dor Weather Forecasting Forum, there's no excuse for me being lazy and insulting all you guys that bothered to pay attention to my ramblings. I am sorry for the long wait

Let's talk about horny guys

The Zabrak are a people who's entire existence revolves around reactions, their physiology, technology, and culture is entirely based on their tendency to be reactive towards threats and issues opposed to proactive, they have a tendency to wait for a swarm of Zur to maul their two month old baby before getting out the zhaboka opposed to not living in a cat-sized bug infested Hellhole to begin with. They also are known for being single-minded beings capable of only perceiving the Galaxy through an exceptionally narrow tunnel, causing them to focus on problems one at a time, dedicating all of their spiky-brainpower towards a singular solution before homing in on another nail that can only be hammered in at exactly the right angle, with no margin for personal tastes or alternative methods.

To understand the Zabrak psyche one must understand the broken, acidic Hellhole they call home. Iridonia

>>34590

According to Wookieepedia, which gets this next bit of info from the Essential Guide to Alien Species, Iridonia is an acidic shithole with oceans, lakes, and puddles more acidic than the insides of a Xenomorph. That last picture I posted is an artist's interpretation of that planet.

While I understand and do agree that the planet looks proper shitty and unpleasant to be a citizen off, that looks an awful lot more like volcanic activity than acid oceans. I don't mind the idea of Mustafar's less magma-y cousin being the Zabrak's homeworld, but what was described and what was made are two very different things. I am in full agreement with the original artist that lava and acid are likewise good at rendering solids into not-solids, but molten rock and spicy water are two extremely different things.

Attached to this post is my recoloring with minor edits of what I think Iridonia would look like, the gray shit's clouds from volcanic activity because just like our very own toxic sister Venus who also has acidic weather, Iridonia is suffering from a bad case of the tummy rumbles which translates in earth-shattering seismic activity equal in fury only to a Chinese audience watching a chinked up screening of TLJ watching in slant-eyed horror as Rose kisses Finn, dishonoring her famiry and heritage for generations

Said horrifying natural earthquakes leads to Iridonia's surface looking a Helluva lot like Darth Sion, with cracks and fissures all over its face making it rather unfortunate to live there. However, unlike our favorite scottish edgelord who uses vibroswords as dildos there's actually some life hidden away in said canyons and cracks and its not getting held together by impotent rage at the fact Horny Space Grandma doesn't bake him knife cookies anymore

>>34591

Much of Iridonia's surface resembles this first image. Barren, sickly, and probably unhealthy to breathe. That second image however shows a very common but extremely important phenomenon on Iridonia though, is colossal canyons that put our very own Grand Canyon to shame. (It's like comparing perfectly seared and seasoned skillet-cooked tri-tip to some boomer's grilled 13.99$/lbs half-rotten t-bone, or the Star Wars Prequels to the Sequels)

Inside of these canyons the Zabrak were born, horned little multi-organed bipedal dumbasses that refuse to die no matter how many rocks you drop on them or how many torsos you separate from the rest of their body. In these canyons did the last remains of a somewhat decent atmosphere and environment remain, with soil capable of producing more than pockets of untapped magma and gaseous sulfuric acid.

It was here that the Zabrak people carved out something resembling a meaningful existence, farming (despite being described as carnivorous, I guess they just invented farming so they could unlock the ranching ability?) and shooting the fuck out of whatever asshole creatures ALSO wanted to live in the one not-fucked part of their planet.

>>34593

Now I am gonna apologize for the images in this post. Apparently when I made them at like 2 in the morning a few days ago I forgot to make them make any fucking sense, but since they're beautiful I'm going to keep them in their beautiful form and you'll be along for the ride when I interpret them like fucking hieroglyphics.

>top left

That is a Kanul-Den, meaning "Tunnel Maker" or "Burrow Former" I noticed that some Zabraki terms when written phonetically resembled some old gaelic terms, like ouc equaling Oak and meaning bravery and germanic pagans thinking oak as a symbol for bravery cause muh Thor, stuff like that. Not all the authors get the memo though the Kanul-Den is an apex predator on Iridonia, standing roughly ten feet tall and being shaped like a pissed ant with two big horns that run up and down its face.

They are swole as fuck and tend to fight standing upright, positioning their vulnerable thorax away and enabling them to use their four extremely powerful arms with claws that resemble climbing pickaxes more than appendages to annihilate whatever was stupid enough to piss them off.

They use their massive horn face-plates to shift through soil, sort of like animals here on Earth use their stupid blunt faces for, but due to neckgainz and horse steroids Kanul-Dens are even able to sunder rocks and drill straight through stone if need be. When they're not tunneling like spider-dwarf-moles they climb around using those aforementioned claws and are known to be able to scale anything from a sheer cliff to even the fucking ceiling for short amounts of time.

They're able to rotate their head somewhat but also have the ability to lock their heads in place, sort of like how pitbulls can lock their jaws. Only Kanul-Den do this in order to eat blows from angry club-wielding zabrak, and pitbulls do this to hold onto whatever delicious infant you're trying to steal from them When they lock their neck carapace, it's basically like smacking a frog-helmeted knight, and just in case you need a reminder those fucks were able to eat couched war lances and still fucking survive. I'm aware frog helmets were mostly tourney helms and that tourney lances were gay and made to break, but records do exist just like records of arming-sword wielding knights sundering great helms do. History is wild

Ignore the KOTOR Iridonian armor bits for now, I'll cover that in the next post. Suffice to say that lots of the Kanul-Den's traits and even its physical makeup was inspired by the Iridonian armored Enviro-Suit, such as their heavily armored front and comparatively soft and fleshy backs, the general shape of their head, all that good stuff**

Kanul-Den were terrifying creatures for early Zabrak to behold, but ultimately these people would look back with an odd masochistic thanks as these beasts were in all honesty responsible for propelling Zabrak weapon technology in the direction it went. And they sure are fucking proud of that shit

Quick thing before I go, the green circle backpack thing is a reference to how Kanul-Den young clutch onto their mother's backs, which is yet again another reason why they square up on two feet to engage hostiles.

>>34595

I forgot to bring this up last post but regarding the ant wiggling his butt, I think that was me describing how Kanul-Den can shift their thorax around, making them even harder targets when they're bipedal.

I noticed a motif in both KOTOR and its mod, High Quality blasters which is honestly a massive quality of life upgrade despite just being a texture overhaul of things you'll probably only glance at once or twice unless you're an autist like me.

Back to the pattern though, Zabrak equipment, whether the IridoNian IridoRian was a bioware fuckup guy's armor, the Tystel heavy pistol series, or the Battle Cannon, they're all made out of this fucking bronze-brass metal. They're consistently like this, but nobody else has really touched upon it, only continued it

Well I did some digging and like I did with the Zersium components in blasters I found another metal, Quadranium, which has a few nods and references in the KOTOR series as being a metal with an extremely high temperature tolerance leading to it being used in starship exhaust bits and everything else headed into a spot that's a little too spicy for durasteel.

Also Quadranium is bronze-brass. It fits perfectly

The Zabrak refer to it as Dur-Chene which roughly means fire-resilient or flame-tolerant and they have a hard on for using it in just about everything, probably because not only can it take a lava bath and come out untarnished but also because its as stiff as my ex's scoliosis spine, making it ideal for making important shit out of it.

The blaster pistol shown is a Tystel Mk3, which is different from the earlier iterations as it is slowly phasing out as much Quadranium as possible to make it cheaper, having only the most important pieces being made out of the precious metal opposed to its predecessors which were more in line with the shown Battle Cannon, who are practically hunks of Quadranium machined and hammered into a vaguely rifle shape.

**Just a little lore tidbit, you remember that on Merr-Sonn rifle I came up with? The one with delicate components that made it one of the first rifle-sized blasters capable of sustained fire? The one that almost made Merr-Sonn declare bankruptcy because Merr put all his eggs in the corrupt nepotistic basket of Chancellor elect Tol Cressa, who ultimately got sidelined by the Republic Military quartermaster general into fucking over Merr-Sonn because their blaster was too fucking expensive to outfit an entire Galaxy-wide military with?

Well good ol' Merr's keeping his company afloat by selling the production and modification rights of his Magnum Opus like a two dollar Vegas who- I mean, gentle-ma'am, to anyone willing to purchase a few hours with her such as the Zabrak or Mandalorians?**

tl;dr The Zabrak Battle Cannon is the bastard daughter between Merr-Sonn's technological-marvel but corporate-failure MSB-4 Magnum, only where Merr-Sonn's shekel loser used its heat-resistant design to allow for more bolts to get shoved out of its soul-crushingly expensive barrel, the Zabrak optimized it to toss out the equivalent of light-artillery at Kanul-Den and other critters too dumb to realize that horned-thing got a new toy from Spessman Target.

Let's take a break from talking about Iridonians to talk about something equally as spiritually engaging and emotionally stimulating.

Jedi fashion hour

I fucking hate KOTOR and TOR's general approach to dressing their Jedi, which is can usually be summed up as retarded.

First we have Zayne Carrick and the Jedi Covenant, and while to be fair the covenant's exotic dress and style is more of a reference to how they're becoming materialistic and not very Jedi-y, that doesn't change the fact that they look like Tarisian nobility (which they sorta are, so I get it) opposed to proper Jewdi kniggers.

Next to offend my eyes is KOTOR's ocular abortion that is the Jedi robes.

I get wanting to be different and all, have the Old Jedi look and be different than what they'd evolve into, but for fuck's sake if this is your solution you need to breath pure Zyklon B and take a long fucking shower.

Fucking shoulder pads on what's supposed to be innocuous pleb robes designed to help magical space wizards blend into a crowd and show off their monk-ness is a fucking bathrobe with some leather patches to protect your clavicle from what? Ithorians sneezes? Fuck off

>>34597

Didn't know we had a Massassi flag. Thanks for implying that my autism is quality though

Luckily, like fucking everything Old Republic related, some authors didn't pay attention to other lore and luckily added fashion styles that exist in later eras to alleviate the agony on my eyes.

The key thing that separates Jedi robes from basic robes tends to be the VESTMENTS, outlined in eye-rape pink, are additional wrappings that cover the inner/middle **there's 3 layers, the INNER-inner brown one, the inner/middle (since the base layer is mostly forgettable) and the outer layer that's usually vestments) robes and really give Jedi fashion that sort of wide-shouldered demanding air that we see in shoulder-inserted suits that makes them stand out. In KOTOR your robes lack these, instead we get the gay shoulder things, but for better or worse the designers behind Arca Jeth, Atris, and other Jedi characters that prequel-era vestments existed way back when too.

Left to right we have Duron Qel-Droma, (robe model colored based on his appearance in the comic) Arca Jeth (lots of interpretations here but most have him like this) Atris of course (based Obsidian cementing vestments with her existence) and I separated Kreia because while it may seem at first that she has vestments, her outfit is actually completely unique.

It has a base beige layer that includes the weird cloth gorget chin sleeve thing, the baby poo tunic, then a sorta dress that hangs from her shoulders and at first resembles vestments only to turn into a flowy dress thing. The dress opens up above the belt in a way that angers Allah had it not been for the tunic below but also tricks the viewer into thinking its just vestments, but like most things Kreia related the bitch tricked you and now you feel stupid. That or I'm projecting my reaction to realizing this

Its late but I feel like giving you guys another peak into my brain so here's another one.

The first image is my first draft idea of what the Jedi Exile's first lightsaber should look like. The idea behind it is that its a smooth techno-autismless cylinder that leads into the asymmetric but nonetheless softly curved emitter, with the only gaps and lines being formed by necessary pieces like the switch section, emitter matrix, and pommel being all their own individual pieces that had to be all joined separately but otherwise still retain the smoothness motif. I haven't edited this image but I will, the main reason I envisioned it looking like this was so that it'd clash so much with his second saber the one you make in KOTOR 2 representing how much the character's changed plus the smoothness of it makes it fit with Atris pretty well and she ends up with it anyways.

My next post tomorrow will probably be me word-vomiting my ideas for the Exile's actual character, describing my goals regarding his development and such. I've gone a bit into my ideas for Revan but not the Exile so it'll be your guys' first real glimpse at him

Also, I attached my autistic template for Jedi robes. Its not 100% original, I'll post the original some time but it is heavily fucking edited and making it nearly gave me a hernia at one point trying to make the robe continuity work I don't have long robes in it, but I'll post them if someone wants them

>>34602

Quick KOTOR rant before I unload my brain's autism trash compactor in text form.

After recently replaying KOTOR and I'm once again in the middle of a KOTOR 2 RCM playthrough, and just as I thought the first time KOTOR 2 is better.

KOTOR's tone and atmosphere never really ever gave me a sense of urgency, never that feeling that the Galaxy was really in any danger whatsoever or that the Republic might get fucked over. Bastila Shan on her own's allowed the Republic numerous victories against the Sith using battle meditation, and Revan being out of the picture for a bit leaving behind Malak who, if you honestly thought for a second was intimidating past age 12 you need a 9mm lead injection, the Galaxy for the most part was gonna be fine.

Manaan's Subnautica adventures are probably my favorite part of the game, second only maybe to the first time I saw the crashed Czerka sandcrawler on Tatooine. That image sticks with me I don't know why

Despite Lucasfilm's and Bioware's best efforts to annihilate KOTOR 2 though, with Lucasfilm annihilating their project by fucking with release dates and Bioware doing everything they can to keep their stranglehold on Old Republic content alive by destroying the Exile as a character and propping up Revan to letting Karphyshyn lust after his own creation like a pride-parade attending faggot and inserting him into everything from their Star Wars flavored WoW clone to the Bane series which is still my favorite SW book series

KOTOR 2's characters, despite being static as fuck when it comes to Bao-Dur, Mandalore, HK-47, T3, and Disciple, still felt better than KOTOR's to me with the exception of Jolee and Canderous.

Jolee and Canderous were at least interesting, and Canderous even goes through an arc where he begins to seek value in something other than slaughter and destruction, and Jolee was at least entertaining.

Carth, Bastila, Juhani, Zaalbar, Mission blah blah fucking blah you can't convince me they weren't bland as fuck. Carth was the least offensive in this category but all he really does is stop seeing a target on your back for a few minutes and gets slightly less whiny.

People like to jerk off Kreia and all as the end all be all greatest SW character of all time, I understand why but at the end of the day she's just a great subversion of Jedi/Sith to a point where she's neither, simply a Force-wielding human who hates the Force and prizes her own free will and self determination above everything else. She's well written in that despite pushing independence down your fucking throat she literally manipulates you and everything around her, just like the same Force she hates, for her own ends.

She just stands out in the universe more than a lot of other characters, and I guess that's why she's so beloved. plus her dialogue is kino

Handmaiden's sorta bleh but definitely has her moments and feels more alive than Bastila, Juhani, or Mission ever did, Bao-Dur's just a horny and less-hairy version of Zaalbar, T3 shits all over his younger self being a batshit insane astromech, HK-47's voice actor lets loose and shits all over any of the work he ever did in KOTOR, Visas is just some thicc blind Sithskank who only really exists as a Deus Ex Machina to job Nihilus and so Horny Space Grandma can tease you about getting your dick hard to whatever scars Nihilus' left on her She literally does this I shit you not Atton is unironically more likable than most of KOTOR's cast and all he does is scream about how Pazaak is manipulative and crawls into everyone's mind and that he used to kill pazaak but now he is a +1/-1 pazaak card.

My first time playing KOTOR 2 I hated all of the faces. Dunno why but for me there was no Scar Guy or Mullet Man, y'know the obvious picks for a protagonist.

Luckily for me Space Jesus existed so I used him. Some things though bugged me

>Spess Jesus' age

I look at this face and see a man not a day over 30. I look at the Handmaiden and see a thot not over twenty-fucking-three. We're Space Jesus not Space Mohammed.

Maybe I'm just too big of a puritan, but that shit bugs me. Visas too seems really young and while Mira claims you're an oldie, its more of a deflection from her real fears which are that the Handmaiden'll forget that the first tier of Echani arts don't include vibroswords to the back while sleeping and that Visas'll make Katarr look like a joke if she catches your dick in Mira.

I honestly doubt Visas who do anything if she got cucked since she honestly seems like the type that'd be into the whole humiliation thing, but Holy fuck do I understand why she'd be spooked by the handmaiden. Schutta practically got violent when she heard that another girl on the Ebon Hawk got her ass beat other than her (Aw shit that's a good line I'll remember it)

Back on track though, my point is that I hate to disappoint you brothers but I won't be using Space Jesus as a baseline for the Exile. (in terms of looks that is)

>>34627

I hate to disappoint but there are a few reasons why going into this.

For starters,

>age/appearance age

Weirds me out to have a 30+ dude crawl off the cross to stick his dick in some albino then heal a blind woman with his dick, I can't get past that

>he is blonde

Talvon Esan, who's a nobody with a forgettable name in KOTOR 2 since he shows up once but I'm actually turning into a character, is also blonde, and since my brain keeps giving Sirun a green lightsaber when its supposed to be blue whenever I try to see fight scenes in my mind's eye having a blonde Exile will also help fuck and meddle and get in the way. Its autistic but it is a problem, my brain is just too crude to handle it apparently

>Mod face

There's a mod out there, Scruffy Nerfherder, it takes the model for this Talvon Esan guy (face 06 I think) that you can choose and replaces it with second pic related, well similar to second pic related I edited the texture for my current playthrough.

Second pic is a screenshot. It's a little high up because I used HK-47 who's practically droid-Shaq

>>34628

Things are about to get a little autistic, bear with me. I noticed this when trying to pick a face, and its that Space Jesus' eyes are unique. The pupils are smaller and there's this effect where the color of the iris darkens the higher you go on it, and for some reason my reptile brain prefers looking at it over the other eyes, which sort of have an uncanny valley effect where they just look off.

Space Jesus' eyes also have a uniquely shaped pupil, which can be described like a half circle with a half chub on top, giving it this sort of relaxed and laid back look. Combine this with his facial animations which go from happy and chill to frustrated and pissed and overall the face model just works better than any other in KOTOR that I've seen, better than Mullet Man and better than Scar Guy.

I modified the scruffy nerfherder face mod to have more Space Jesus-y eyes, different pupil, different glint, different coloration, and as you can see with the side by side its about as close as an unprofessional retard like me is gonna get. I went with blue-er eyes because Star Wars needs more aryans and because they stand out better than the mod's basic brown ones, and while someone put an enormous amount of detail into making Space Jesus' eyes more than any other I swear to God, I'm not crazy, go look at them yourself. I honestly think the devs intended for him to get used, there's just too much extra detail and work put into him and him alone to just be a fluke. Space Jesus' hazel-green-skintone eyes don't really pop as much as I think they should, and while that contributes to him being more mundane and chill it hampers the overall uniqueness of his facial model.

I've talked about faces for too long, this is starting to get gay. Please understand that I have put an absolutely fucking retarded amount of thought into this, and something may be wrong with me

>>34629

Now the name. Sirun Krii. (SER-UNN KR-EE)

Proper Star Warsy, Sirun's name came as a result of me reading Meetra Surik, hearing it in my head, It's not a bad name, shame its attached to such a godawful abortion and took some syllables and noises to craft Sirun Krii. Plus the surname Krii popped up in my head some time before I started working on this project and its stuck with me

Here's an image where I think the sounds came from. Gray means either I didn't use it or not sure how it impacted the rename.

M and N sound similar so I swapped the M and used an N in SiruN, TR and KR are similar so that's why the latter is in there.

At first I wasn't a huge fan, but after saying it in my heads a few times the puzzle pieces fell into place and my autism was satisfied

>>34630

I won't spoil his entire character arc because not only have I not completed it but also because spoilers are spoilers and you guys are cool and I'm not a dick.

Sirun'll be a POV character, a commonly reoccurring one, and there isn't exactly a static protagonist only varying conflicts inside of the overall stories if that makes sense.

Sirun undergoes an arc in the sorta buildup first.. Part I guess, its basically the prologue to the Mandalorian Wars stories proper but is still a self contained story in a way

In KOTOR 2 Kavar, despite having been said to have trained the Exile, and even apologizes for not completing it during the events transpiring after the Battle of Onderon, is never stated to actually being the Exile's jedi master, instead Wookieepedia dodges the issue but saying that the Exile was Kavar's """informal""" padawan and that the Exile had another master entirely.

An unnamed one. Who's alluded to once as having existed

That's fucking retarded. Kavar was the Exile's master, but due to Kavar's elevation to the Jedi Council and the subsequent overload of duties he has, Sirun's padawanship ends when he's at the ripe age of ~19.5, so around the same time most padawans get knighted, but troublesome padawans who can't seem to wrap their heads around "no put pp in woman" or "don't dissect toddlers and use their pain to zap the shit out of your master," those more discipline-lacking Jedi edgy faggots take the wrist-razor to their braids whenever the Council thinks the Space Ritalin works it magic or the Master bribes said Council into taking the padawan off their hands.

Sirun was one of those. Now look that was hyperbole, Sirun wasn't off skinny dipping in the Dark Side or whatever, he was just having a difficult time locking away those emotions.

Sirun was brought into the Order around age eight, so pretty late when compared to the other coruscanti kids.

Thing is, Sirun wasn't Coruscanti, he comes from a little planet that's not too well known as Kira Prime. Planet exists, its just one of those barebones ones with no descriptions. The ones I like to give descriptions

Kira Prime was settled by human settlers way back when and is a temperate world full of mostly rocky highlands split apart by rushing rivers, imported nerfs with gay spiraling horns, crocodile turtles called Great Saliks with a bite force capable of crushing durasteel, and of course, these weirdo underground spooky niggas that had advanced technology and a hard on for ecology.

When the humie settlers started encroaching on, well everything, long story short they got pissy and after getting BTFO'd by slugthrowers and early blaster tech they got pissy and decided that if they couldn't have paradise nobody would. They detonated a fuckhuge nuke that tore apart a chunk of the planet's surface and has still left a massive tainted blast mark visible from fucking orbit.

Also the manlets have a tendency to escape their pits long enough to steal babies and shit, they're dickheads

Sirun's pa was some pleb soldier who got gibbed by the dickheads, leaving his unprepared mother the astronomical task of raising the little dipshit all on her own. And single mothers never fucking work, look at Detroit and Chicago and try to argue with me

Plus, Sirun was a Force Sensitive little boy. A bit above average at best, but still Force Sensitive.

Everyone who's played KOTOR 2 knows about the Exile's ability to spit out Force Bonds left and right, sinking his hooks into the consciousnesses and souls of whoever he interacts with and unconsciously exerting a sort of influence over their thoughts and actions, thing is he's not aware he's doing this. This leads to him basically chilling in the back of whoever he's had a decent size impact on's mind and never fucking leaving.

It's like having a song stuck in your head, or not being able to stop thinking about somebody or something, its a sort of obsession you have no control over.

I got so wrapped up in other stuff I forgot to talk about clothing symbolism.

One of Sirun's things is that he clutches onto the past as a way to hold onto what he perceives to be his identity, Sirun has a strong sense of individuality and feels that it is under attack by Jedi platitudes and things like that, in reality what he's doing is refusing to give up his own personal past because he views it through rose-tinted glasses and thinks everything was so much better back then, he romanticizes it and tries to think about nothing but it because he's trying to avoid the present, which he's afraid of.

The red robe trim is a Kiran pattern, one Sirun's mom autistically sew into everything she could stick a needle through because its an old Krii family pattern.

The more unique inner robes symbolize Sirun's supposed identity, that uniqueness he desires to keep protected and safe. The outer vestments were at one point a pair of equally ornate and fucking gay robes, only Kavar said that they were sorta gay and that Sirun should dress like a normal Jedi instead of a Sonic OC pls no steal.

Sirun dropped the fancy vestments for basic pleb ones as a compromise, symbolizing how Sirun's supposed fear of losing his identity is dwarfed by his other fear of disappointing his father figure, but there's also a very Sirun-y meaning to it as well. The bland Jedi vestments on top of the fancy Sirun robes represent Sirun's immature tendency to shift blame off of himself and onto the Jedi, pinning all of his shortcomings and failures on the Order not Kavar, remember, he views Kavar as sacred, just not the Order they're attached to instead of accepting that he himself may not be some paragon of existence.

These robes are the same ones he's wearing during that one fight I described on Nouane, the one where he gets BTFO'd by a Basilisk war droid and captured by the Mandos. These robes get trashed there and the subsequent honor duel he gets in with that one Mandalorian commander guy and after he arrives on Serroco, moments before the bombardment, he meets back up with his bro Talvon who's been refusing to go back to Revan until his best buddy's back, so Talvon's been doing some Force beacon shit in an attempt to contact Sirun who's been busy getting his jaw broken by an angry Mandalorian.

The robes represent Sirun's whole idenity clash thing, the fight between he perceives to be his personality and the ever encroaching Jedi Order that's coming to crush and dominate him, getting annihilated and replaced by the actual conflict of the Mandalorian Wars, which is mirrored by Sirun's POV chapters which focus mostly on internal turmoil starting to focus outwards on issues that actually matter, i.e. the Mandalorian Wars.

Also they matter because Sirun's Original Character pls no steal style getting replaced by bland pleb robes represents how superficial things like his exterior and how he presents himself getting blown away by the energy of a Basilisk war droid's pulse cannon, replaced by Sirun acting like Sirun and being Sirun opposed to him worrying about being Sirun.

I'm stupid and bad at explaining things, in the actual writing it'll make more sense.

Also I said I'd find the original robe template thing, here is what I started out with and built off of

>>34635

I don't usually post anything in these threads but I enjoy reading them. Just letting you know.

I don't always post in this thread but I'm always reading it, keep up the good work man.

>>34620

>Carth, Bastila, Juhani, Zaalbar, Mission blah blah fucking blah you can't convince me they weren't bland as fuck.

You're mostly correct there, but Mission had qt Twi'lek titties. As for Bastila, I have a soft spot for tsunderes.

>I understand why but at the end of the day she's just a great subversion of Jedi/Sith to a point where she's neither, simply a Force-wielding human who hates the Force and prizes her own free will and self determination above everything else.

I understand that she's not truly orthodox Sith due to not particularly wanting to rule the galaxy or anything like that, but despite the subversions I'd maintain Kreia is much more like the Sith than she is like the Jedi. The Sith also emphasize self-determination, albeit in a slightly different way: if everything from the Force to the whole Galaxy is firmly under your thumb, and you're strong enough to keep it that way, you've acquired as much agency as you can possibly get, and are free to do whatever the fuck you want. This is what the "Force will set me free" line in the Sith code represents. You could also construe her desire to kill the Force as a more radical version of the Sith's views on the Force. Rather than opening themselves to the Force's energies like the Jedi, the Sith forcibly exert their will on the Force and treat it like a beast of burden, something firmly under their control. The Sith wish to bind the Force to their control, Kreia wishes to make sure the Force is never out of her control by destroying it. Not quite the same, but there's very much a common thread there.

>Scar Guy or Mullet Man, y'know the obvious picks for a protagonist.

Damn, I thought I was the only one.

>I look at this face and see a man not a day over 30. I look at the Handmaiden and see a thot not over twenty-fucking-three

A 7 year gap in age is nothing when the younger is in her twenties. If we're talking about an 11 year old and an 18 year old I'd see where you're coming from, but 23 and 30 is perfectly fine.

>>34634

>robe symbolism autism

Shit like this is what separates your posts from the pac of OC DONUT STEEL fanfics, keep it up.

>>34639

Thanks anon. Feedback and responses mean a lot to me, I'm thankful you guys are still willing to read my shit despite all my long hiatuses

>>34641

Pic related is his best outfit don't @ me. Ditching the outer vestment bathrobe shit and replacing it with a Man with No Name babyfood-colored poncho was the best decision he ever made short of smashing a qt albino elf thot

>>34652

Bastila romance was good. Mission was 14 so its a good thing the Outer Rim has no age of consent laws.

>Kreia is more Sith

Absolutely, Kreia was really just a mask for Darth Traya all along. You're right in that it could be viewed that she's just a hyper Big Brain Sith who realizes that the ultimate way of breaking the Force into becoming a beast of burden is to just shoot it in the head, but I feel that her dialogue with Atris when she states that Sith teachings are ultimately useless but still a necessary step highlights her philosophy, at the end of the day "The Force Shall Free Me" clashes with her philosophy because what she believes is that "I shall Free Me," or something like that.

But yeah, at the end of the day the Jedi align themselves and drown themselves in the Force to reach enlightenment and become one while the Sith and most dedicated Dark Siders, for that matter skinny dip in it to get their power high so they can larp as a broken power line and have ultimate power for a few seconds before their bodies get fried by the sheer Force quantity they have balled up inside of them.

And that's something I just realized, could Dark Side degradation be caused by the Force because Force energies are inherently destructive to organic life and that it breaks it down, becoming one with it? Afterall, Force Lightning is a pure expression of the Force and look what it does to shit, it can literally turn things to ash.

Just food for thought.

>Scar guy

Any other pick is shit tier, nogRevan and blonde butterface are throwaway NPC faces, not protagonists

>age gap

I gave Sirun a birthdate that would make him around 28-29 during the events of KOTOR 2, so he's not far from that mark.

It's really just that Space Jesus looks more like 30-40 to me and in general the sort of overly matured and middle-aged look makes me think he should be spending his time turning water into Juma Juice or chugging down Rancor Zero Ultra while riding around on his repulsorlift lawnmower rather than saving the Galaxy from freaks that get kicked out of Marilyn Manson concerts for being too fucked up.

Again, thanks for the feedback anons. I can't stress enough how much writefags depend on ((((you))))s, we're like kikes rubbing together shekels default dancing on pieces of the U.S.S. Liberty when it comes to feedback

Just got done with KOTOR 2 and I feel like talking about it.

Now look, if there's gonna be anybody to jerk off Chris Avellone and Obsidian's work with SW its me, but that doesn't mean everything they did was perfect.

Off the top of my head I can only really think of a few things that really bug me, that's Peragus' finale, cucking on Kavar, stretching out Malachor as much as possible, making Zez-Kai Ell side with the council, and not being able to make up their minds on what happened to the Exile on Malachor V.

Peragus thing

The Sith Troopers at the end break continuity because they come out of nowhere. Not fucking once did we see them on the Harbinger but now here comes a battalion of them out of one of the cracks on Sion's face, they're ill fitting and its obvious they're just there for padding out your escape. I understand that the turret controls were too clunky for something like, I don't know

<Sith Assassins chasing you, they cloak and uncloak as they try to approach you. Shoot them while they're uncloaked or use the barrels to deal with/uncloak them

Something like that would've fit and made some sense. But I got something even better

<HK unit transmits a frenzy signal to the malfunctioning droids during his Self Destruct sequence, having them all rush towards the hangar.

This includes one important change, that either when HK confronts you at the administration level he uses some droids to cover and escape, or that you never see him there and that he waits at the Ebon Hawk for you to arrive before you fight him.

>Waits at Ebon Hawk

<He's tampered with it, busting the engines and/or hyperdrive

<When he dies, he triggers the droid frenzy that causes them to rush to you. Atton and T3 do last second fixes to the engines while the Exile uses the turret to fend off the horde of shambling robots

<Just like with the Sith Troopers, Kreia pops out of a vent or whatever and hops in the Ebon Hawk I don't know how she not only escaped Sion after suffering a wound that makes the Exile fall to his fucking knees, but also the army of Sith Troopers she apparently tagged along with and waited for you to job before hopping in the Ebon Hawk

That bugged me. Not enough to ruin Peragus, which is actually one of my favorite parts of KOTOR 2, but stilled bugged me.

Kavar cucking

There's no reason not to make Kavar your Jedi Master. Had they done this, there would've been a much bigger emotional impact on him being part of the group that exiled you and made your scenes with him on Onderon have much more weight then they end up having.

Plus his betrayal at the end also has a bigger effect, there's no reason other than to add some retarded degree of separation from you and him in favor of giving the Exile some unnamed referred to once other master.

It's stupid and I seriously don't know why they did this, did they plan on your actual master appearing in game? If they did that, then why did they have all of Kavar's lines including the ones where he talks about training you done while Korriban is so bare bones? I don't get it

Malachor V shitshow

Traya dialogue was good, the remote bits are fine if you use cheats to go Turbo and zip around, Hanharr and Mira's closure was meh just like their characters, but Holy fuck does it feel padded. Two separate areas of rock and zyklon B cracks with weird swole Trandoshan cunts that're definitely on gear practically dripping with Vitamin S trying to take your head off, and once you get through that you're forced to wade through a literal fucking sea of wannabe Sith faggots to save your buddies before you can give Sion or Traya a deepthroating session with your lightsaber, it felt so needlessly long mostly because its riding on the climax of confronting the Jedi Council, BTFOing Atris, Shredding the Hungry Boi™, then watching the fucking Ebon Hawk give some of Malachor V's local geology a pounding, its just too fucking much too fucking soon and it takes eight years to get to all of this.

You don't beat Sion through a lightsaber duel, you convince him to kill himself sorta like the BBEG in Arcanum, Traya should've been a debate not some mind-crushing fight, or at least have the debate before the fight.

My solution is simple. Cut out most of the bullshit so we can enjoy the atmosphere of this amazing game's finale, the quiet moments on Malachor V were great and I wish we had more of them.

>>34663

I really don't realize how long these posts get. Had to split this one

Zez-Kai Ell

Short one because I don't object to this one as much as the others.

Zez-Kai Ell's self imposed Exile was interesting, it showed once again how Gray Jedi either fall to the Dark Side like gay failures or become worthless social recluses a la Jolee Bindo. Qui-Gon wasn't necessarily a gray Jedi, since he was a firm lightsider and he believed staunchly in the Jedi's teachings, just not the Council's Edicts. Zez-Kai Ell is closer to Gray Jedi because while he didn't necessarily use the Dark Side, his emotions to become more powerful, I'm aware that the Force isn't light and dark and that the Dark Side is just shorthand for obstructing the Force's flow to empower yourself opposed to losing yourself in its flow, like a rock in a river but not only did Zez-Kai Ell question the Council which he was on he also openly questions the Jedi's teachings, believing that they may be at fault for creating so many dark siders. I'm not necessarily opposed to Zez-Kai Ell ultimately agreeing to strip you of the Force because the Jedi are afraid that when that scream building inside of you finally goes off that it'll kill everybody, but I feel that its weird for him to not at least object to Vrook or Kavar when they bring up some of the things he himself admitted to being critical of, like how Vrook and Kavar don't acknowledge the fact that the Jedi might've created you instead everything being your fault, he corrects Vrook once on something small but not on the big things that literally caused him to leave the Order.

No real changes here, maybe a few more disagreements that's it

Malachor V and the Exile

Kreia states again and again that the Exile "Cleanly broke all connection with the Force," paraphrased but still correct but this can't be true as the Council literally tries to sever the remaining ties, implying they exist, and that the entire reason why you and Kreia are bound together is that you unconsciously Force bonded with her prior to Peragus, implying that your ties to the Force weren't completely separated afterall because your inherent Force ability to sink your influence hook into unwitting people unwittingingly still remains.

Is Kreia just being retarded? I think so. That or she's purposefully lying to you about a very tiny inconsequential detail any retard who understands the Force a little bit could understand

It just bugged me to hear this so much as it feels like a major oversight, because unlike it some instances like when discussing Visas' usefulness and how that everybody who's dumb enough to get manipulated deserves it, you never can call Kreia out on this like you can in other situations, you just either accept or refuse to comment on it.

It just seems like a detail they should've realized was a little off, that's all. I am very nitpicky

Basilisk war droid

Forgot to mention this one, but those two images I posted are related to this. Chris Avellone is a brainlet who thought basilisk war droids were stupid so he changed them from beastial droid mounts to… StarVipers. Ye Olde StarViper spaceships

That was dumb and lazy. Basilisk war droids are perfect the way they are, did his team just not want to animate the war droid?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xm0jjLRh730

The scene of you dropping into Iziz from orbit was kino, but they're forgetting that in KOTOR 1 Canderous describes his armor reacting to re-entry as all things do, getting all red and shit.

Basilisk war droids are big but they're also just meant for one person, my solution to this one is simple.

>>34666

KOTOR 2 has a lot of breathing room

KOTOR's story is under a bit of a bind because Revan's quest, the one to hunt the Star Maps, is less open-ended than the Hunt for the Jedi Masters because the map on Dantooine literally fucking marks everywhere he needs to go, now you could change this by making it so that each map only reveals another one's location, that way the actual events inform the planet order Dantooine one shows the Tatooine one which leads to Kash-UK (I hope that triggered someone) to Manaan to Korriban but that doesn't change the fact that either way Revan always has somewhere to go, some place to be to push the plotline ahead.

Now you may be saying, "Anon, nice dic-.. Doesn't T3 literally fucking regurgitate the Jedi Masters' locations the second you're done bullying Atris?"

You are right. But, unlike the Star Maps immediately giving Revan a path to follow no matter how they're incorporated, the entire maguffin of KOTOR 2's search relies on T3 having the info from Atris' archives, and you gotta remember what this means.

T3 is literally a batshit insane utility droid about as tall as a refresher who's gone for YEARS without a memory wipe, with so many psychological ticks and binary bats flying around his trash-can shaped head that its amazing he hasn't programmed the Ebon Hawk to hyperdrive straight into a fucking star by now.

My adaption works like this, T3 has the archives but they're all encoded to Hell. Atris was a Jedi Historian, someone who goes dumpster diving in Jedi laundry baskets and sticks their hands down space porta-potties in search of precious holocrons, plus she has a metric asston of Sith Holocrons, something tells me she might have the idea to put some security measures up for her own fucking database

The first thing T3 gets his grubby little terminal adapter on is the Exile's trial recording, after that while the Exile's off dealing with Telos problems he starts to decode the ciphers on Atris' files and piece together the data stored.

In my telling, Atris doesn't have a full on fucking list of where the surviving Council members went, as all of the Jedi Masters you talk to claim that they're not supposed to know where the others are though I am under no illusion that Atris wouldn't do her fucking damndest to keep tabs on them instead she was snippets and reports of information compiled by a network of agents, which includes the Handmaidens of course, since Brianna alludes to their being other missions she's been sent on and one of them was definitely kidnapping the Ebon Hawk and throwing it in the back of their windowless white base under the pretense of selling T3 candy with the first Jedi Master T3 hones in on being Zez-Kai Ell on Nar Shaddaa.

>>34667

Now, there's some changes that occur before that even happens. I'll keep them brief, unless I feel like rambling which means I'll probably ramble for a dozen posts on a throwaway fact or line

>Harbinger

Not from the Exile's POV, but on the Harbinger Telos gets talked about, a few throwaway lines between the captain and Atris' favorite Handmaiden since Atris admits to having orchestrated your return before they happen upon the Sith ship

>Peragus

Everything's the same except the ending, no Sith troopers instead HK blows himself up in the hangar and triggers the Peragus droids to swarm, you blow up Peragus II and escape like normal

>Telos

Batu Rem was actually originally going to be related to the GenoHaradan, and he was supposed to admit this to you. That is retarded

Fake-u Rem claims to be an exchange agent, Atton goads him still but since he isn't a fucking moron he doesn't release you all, instead he flips the kill switch to leave no survivors. Like the GenoHaradan would

Unluckily for him though, Sirun senses the electrical ping and reroutes the electrical command to release Atton and Kreia's cages, forcing him to eat the shock but gives them the chance to dab on Batu Rem

Aaaaand I'm already going off on a tangent, I forgot to bring this up but it is important now.

I brought up Sirun's advanced sense abilities, I was inspired to incorporate them into the story by that one scene in Peragus where Kreia has you sense the electrical presence of the droids, something we never see in the Star Wars universe because brainlets try to sense droids the same way they do organics, they look for the Force in them because the Force is in EVERYTHING organic, no exceptions. However, these extremely minute pulses caused by behavior core feedback, memory banks being accessed, all of that does have an albeit small but still noticeable presence in the world, one that, if you're looking for the right thing, you can find.

He still can't read droid minds because data and electrical impulses are still two different things, ultimately one can argue that data and droid brains operate on electrical impulses just on a fucking microscopic scale, but nonetheless still electrical.

Sirun can barely sense large robots doing things that include comparatively massive amounts of energy, like preparing to fire weapons or move around or do a high-intensity scan, there's no fucking way he can sense pulses that absurdly weak and small, let alone interpret them. I plan on introducing Sirun's electricity sensing capabilities very early on, during the Mandalorian War prologue stuff in fact. When he uses it here it's been a well established ability that he's had for a very long time, not a Deus Ex Machina asspull

>>34668

My spidey sense was tingling so I split this post preemptively

Citadel station and Telos are an expensive project that the Republic can barely keep afloat, the TSF's force cages are cheap and inexpensive models that do their jobs and that's about it, they operate under long-delay pulses and simple circuitry designed so that a "Release" and "Execute" command are spaced so far apart and insulated from eachother that there is no mechanical way the hardware can fail and lead to an accidental death, they are very simple but also efficient machines that do their jobs very, very well. When Sirun and Co. get imprisoned, Sirun makes an active and dedicated attempt to watch and understand the Force cage's inputs and how they work. I also plan on having Sirun have limited abilities in Mechu Deru that he leeched off of Tau/Revan since Revan loves his droids during their time together, helping him understand the machines they're with.

Plus you're left in that cage for an undisclosed amount of time, and I doubt fake Batu Rem just waited for Grenn to take a step or two out of the room, that fucker probably waited until Grenn's Lawful Good musk got sucked out by the vents before going within a fucking mile of that room, remember, he's a skilled GenoHaradan assassin, he's not amateurish enough to make a move that could get him caught in any way.

This means that Sirun has ample time just chilling there also, Sirun wants to get the fuck out. Kreia won't shut up about the Sith chasing them down and he's honestly terrified that Sion'll pop out of the fucking vents if they spend another second in that room so he has had plenty of time to scan, understand, and learn how the already simple Force cages work. When Fake-u flips the Zap 'Em switch, Sirun telekinetically moves Atton's kill-wiring Green is release, Red is kill if it wasn't obvious to the crayon-munchers out there to splice with the release one through the insulation, so the pulse travelling down the kill-wire feeds into the release one, freeing Atton. Sirun tries doing the same to Kreia's, but due to the Force-bond Kreia reads Sirun's mind and can literally feel what he's doing, she tries to do the same to Sirun's cages wiring but due to a mixture of self preservation and Force Influence, she completes the swapping job on her cage since Sirun at this point isn't strong enough to multitask on such a precision job as changing wiring that could save or kill you with the Force, something he's only recently now able to feel in years so the wiring on Sirun's gets a little fucked with, causing the pulse to be less powerful leading to the shock less lethal the computer powers both the actual execution signal but also the shock itself, since it also allows you to torture someone with the shocks instead of just executing them this is one of the reasons that Sirun survives, but to be fair, he's honestly had worse during the Mandalorian Wars than an electric zap capable of vegifying a Herglic.

Fake-u Rem's shocked (haha) when Atton and Kreia get released, Kreia force-pushes him while Atton tackles him, and since Atton's a super duper hardcore Jedi hunter who can beat Sonic in a race he manages to wrestle one of Fake-u's two blasters away from him and educate him in what a point-blank heavy blaster discharge does to the human anatomy.

>>34670

I hate splitting these posts. Always afraid I'll end up deleting a section and turn the rest into a retarded incoherent mess

Grenn then walks in all pissed like, but rather then telling the Exile to back away this time, he walks in on Sirun smoking like a Christmas ham inside the Force cage, the old lady with her missing hand waving the scarred stump around, Manipulating Fake-u's wrist with the Force so he couldn't blast Atton

Blah blah everything goes as planned

Ithorians call Sirun, he says okay I'll drop by for some of that good leaf kush. Czerka calls, he's immediately off put by Jana Lorso's insinuations that the Ithorians tried to intimidate him, despite them doing no such thing, but he still hesitantly agrees after Kreia and Atton bring up the fact that they need moneh dutch

You might think RDR2 references are shit but Holy fuck look at what Telos is, its Space Hawaii

After they get released, Sirun's in a decent mood to he swaggers over to Czerka, Jana pisses him off, walks out while Kreia bitches at him for weak shit like "morality" and, "not liking deceitful venomous snakes." He ignores her and says hi to the Ithorians since they're just down the block, when Chodo asks him to go protect their robot in an hour that's when the shuttle arrives he heads off to go get his shit back from the TSF. Along the way they run into the cantina scene where some faggoty mercs pick on some jowl-face, so after saying mean things that hurt Sirun's feelings Sirun responds to verbal violence with fist violence, when one of the fags goes for a gun a nearby TSF officer clubs him in the back of the head with his rifle and detains both of the mercs for disturbing the peace. This little scene's based on my playthrough where one of the random patrolling officers joined in and shot the fuck out of the mercs before shit talking them, it was great

Sirun and him talk for a bit since they're now headed the same way, with Sirun carrying the unconscious detainee while the other very much conscious merc has some banter with the officer, who Sirun learns is Sergeant Termes

The name is a reference to Sam Hyde's Officer Maggot character, with Termes meaning Maggot in latin sort of like how Telos' name is latin Sergeant Termes' a long time serving TSF agent and he was just patrolling around the entertainment module while waiting for his assignment to begin, which is to escort the Ithorian's new droid when it arrives. Termes is that one sole TSF officer that helps you fight the "masked attackers" that try to steal the droid, I took two encounters with TSF agents and combined them into one character

On the walk to the TSF base some banter between Termes and the sole woke merc reveals that the mercs, while on contract to Czerka, are actually supplied and paid mostly by the local Bumani Exchange, who in turn are paid by Czerka blah blah this little change from the mercs being sole Czerka boys is very important later, plus it increases the incestuous relationship Czerka and the Exchange already had on Citadel Station

While Termes is locking up the plebs Sirun gets his stuff back and gets informed that the Ebon Hawk got nabbed. While he's screeching at the droid for the TSF to get him a new ship before Sirun re-enacts the destruction of Telos, Termes comes back and helps calm him down with Lt. Grenn, even offering to buy him, Atton, and Kreia a drink at the cantina.

This leads to a cantina scene where Termes talks more about Citadel Station and Telos, it introduces Luxa and the forgettable Exchange guy, blah blah

>>34672

Telos surface surface, meet Bao-Dur I fucking hate Bao-Dur's arm by the way. It's stupid, and when I brought up B4-D4's memory scan I forgot to bring up the fact that B4-D4 saw Jana Lorso talking with the bounty hunters that are wanted and how they're on Telos' surface. My bad

Telos' surface is gay and I'm not changing much, only that the speeders aren't voice locked so things go by faster. Blah blah military base shits, they encounter the broken HK, blahblah Atris' academy

They're flying in on the NEW shuttle, HK-50 turns it into the BLEW shuttle cause it got blown the fuck up his buddies robo-jerk him off, Sirun wakes up pissed with Atton and Kreia since Bao-Dur doesn't do well in crashes they disassemble the robots, Bao-Dur's bleeding out because he seriously got fucked up so Atton and Sirun hurry him into the building in the middle of the snowstorm, they go in blah blah handmaidens take away fun toys blah blah Sirun and Atris argue while Bao-Dur gets treated and Atton gets mind raped, blah blah Atris gets pissy about losing another argument to Sirun after he starts demanding she gives him back his glowstick, since Bao-Dur's in a kolto tank recovering Remember how Brianna talks about how Bao-Dur is important to Atris since he did tons of positive work for Telos? Its the sole reason he's still alive Atton and Kreia get talked to, Kreia skips off to the ship while Atton follows Sirun like a lost puppy, they find T3 and he tells them that he's downloading Atris' archive, so they let him do that while they're also waiting for Bao-Dur's leg to twist the right way again. Sirun is still riled up from the Atris talk, he tries talking to a handmaiden but she's a cunt so he offers to slap a hoe, blah blah Echani dueling stuff, Sirun has trouble with the group fight until he leverages the Force and tosses one against a wall, and he tries to pull a Goku at the Cell Arena by winning on a ring-out, pushing 3 out of the 5 handmaidens out of the ring before putting his elbow through one's jaw and pummeling the other one and annihilating any prospect she may have of bearing children.

Brianna and him chat, she asks about the Force now that most of her sisters left them alone to go see if kolto can heal scoliosis while Sirun tries to see if the Force can make his face look less raccoon-y and his knuckles less bleed-y.

They talk about gay shit, Sirun vaguely remembers the Handmaiden on the Harbinger I mentioned her, she got her shit pushed in by Sion apparently that was the one sister who wasn't a cunt to Brianna and now she's dead as fuck and Atris is refusing to send any more of the Handmaidens on missions because she fears losing them. (That's why she sends the least important one on a mission)

Bao-Dur gets up from his special shark-pee nap and T3 gets done committing a cyber felony so they leave before Atris changes her mind about letting Sirun live. They go BACK to Citadel Station, blah blah Grenn's not all that pissy that they left since the Ithorians told him what happened AFTER Sirun left Because Chodo Habat is a cool guy Sirun has an audience with the local Republic admiral that showed up, and Carth (while the Republic investigation is actually done and they reached the same conclusion as before) interrogates Sirun. The interrogation starts out normal but eventually steers towards if he saw Revan, Sirun's confused about how this relates to the mining facility turning into even more asteroids, and then we're properly introduced to the shadowy figure chilling in the corner with a hood up. big change incoming

>>34675

I hate the Disciple, you should hate the Disciple. He's a gigantic gay nerd, and worst of all he's a gigantic ANNOYING gay nerd that for some Godawful reason replaces the Handmaiden.

Here's a couple reason why him replacing the handmaiden is retarded

<Handmaiden is actual important to the plot

>Arren Kae/Kreia/Traya's fucking daughter

>Has a strong connection to Atris and the Handmaidens, which is why Kreia uses her to get back to the Telos Academy

>Great waifu material

>Makes you unhittable if you're a big brain wisdom boy

>Turns the Ebon Hawk into a pleasure yacht with your sparring

>Qt albino that hides her name from you because Atris will beat her if she gets out the first syllable

Perfection

<Dicksuckle

>Vaguely related to the plot, saw you one time when he was a little kid and had a crush on you if you're a girl

>Is scared of fucking laigreks

>Nerd that reads books instead of having a batshit insane utility droid read the Holonet to you at night to fall asleep

>Doesn't spar with you

>Shitty bland no good very bad dialogue

>Might not even be in your party for most of the game if you choose to do Dantooine later like I do, NarShad-Onderon-Dantooine-Korriban

>Hides his name for some gay reason

Mical (his actual name) is a bland no good character who got most of his shit cut so I can't be too harsh on him. Obsidian's attempts at making alternative companions was neat and all, but ultimately imperfect because Lucasfilm cut off their dick a quarter of the way through development. The Disciple if evidence of this, as he's even more bare bones than Bao-Dur, who literally just disappears at the end because they couldn't waste dev time explaining that he died at the HK factory or during the crash because they were that fucking rushed.

Anyways though, just like in KOTOR 2 Mical is a Republic agent, only this time he actually does useful things like work with Dustil, a real jedi, the last Jedi around really as far as Carth knows. And they're both shit

Mical gets introduced after the Onasis give up the interrogation, sending Mical to escort him back to Citadel Station The interrogation happened on the Sojourn, Carth's hamhead, as a powerplay to flex on the Exile since Sirun himself doesn't have a bigass cruiser, just an ancient freighter (The power play was just forcing the Exile to do what they wanted, opposed to meeting him on the station which is a neutral setting) Mical is annoying as fuck at first but reminds Sirun of when they met. This is something I plan on having in the Mando Wars stuff, during Revan's Force sensitive recruitment attempts

Sirun helped the younglings at Dantooine work on their ability to "see the Force sing in others," which is the gayest way possible of explaining working on Sense abilities. Which I made Sirun good at before I even had a clue this happened! It was always meant to be this way, there is no such thing as coincidence or luck Sirun remembers this, and while he tries not to think back to his PAST so much nowadays Showing how he developed over his younger self which was obsessed with remembering the good ol days and eventually Mical manages to calm Sirun down enough to ask him the questions the Onasi did that he got mad and started yelling during.

Same answers ultimately though, Sirun legitimately has no clues what the fuck is going on with Revan so Mical says okay, tells him that him and Dustil will be down soon to assist in the whole "cleaning up the station" bit of the deal Sirun made with Carth to not end up heading out behind the space barn with a firing squad.

>>34681

It's getting late anons and I have an announcement to make. I'll be gone for about 9 or so days starting tomorrow, I'm working away from home and won't be able to add much if anything to this thread because I'm afraid turning into a phoneposter will also have the unfortunate side effect of making me lust after cock

I've been trying to drop a lot of posts for you guys because you really do deserve it, and while I tried skim over things in an effort to save time a lot of my ideas can sound pretty fucking terrible when summarized, so I try to give as much depth and detail into explaining why I'm not that big of a fucking retard as I can. I haven't even packed and should probably do that.

Thanks for reading anons, I hope you guys enjoyed this. I promise that when I get back I'll post more, but this hiatus isn't because I got burned out or was afraid I wouldn't have enough things to post or anything like the other ones, I legitimately won't be able to.

Thanks again anons, I really do enjoy writing all this stuff. I plan on doing more actual writings like that one time I dropped the prologue-prologue, but I have to admit that writing that burned me the fuck out. Instead of actually writing naturally I kept trying to add extra bullshit and autism to clean up my writing in a way that really annihilates my passion. I don't think I'm cut out to write like a Luceno or Stover or Karpyshyn well I hope not like Karpyshyn, the more I look at his work the more suicidal I get all fancy like with prim and proper sentence structure and all the other horseshit that burns me out.

When I write in the future it is very like to be similar to reading one of these posts, only with dialogue and a narrative and (probably) a quarter of the rambling, unless the rambling is important and in that case its staying.

Thanks again and goodnight /sw/.

>>34668

>reia has you sense the electrical presence of the droids, something we never see in the Star Wars universe

Ben Solo can do this too, it's mentioned in the Legacy of the Force series. I can understand why you missed it, as large chunks of LotF are unreadable.

>>34682

Safe travels Trooper.

Was about to go to bed but since I said I'd be posting tonight, I'll drop a post or two.

Something I felt that was odd in KOTOR 2 was that the Exile was constantly being referred to as "the last Jedi" or the last of the Jedi, despite the fact that a fuckton of Jedi had not only dodged a genocidal bullet like not showing up to Katarr like school students hearing about shooting threats, such as Kavar, Vrook, Zez, Atris, certain plebs like Dustil and Mical made it out Dustil having his father Carth and subsequently a Republic fleet inadvertently guarding him probably helped, and Mical was just some fucking failed Jedi initiate that got his world literally turned upside down when Dantooine got razed its obvious that you aren't exactly the LAST Jedi per say, even though if you think about it in a certain light you more or less are.

The last Jedi as in, the last public Jedi that's actively trying to improve the Galaxy and uphold the vows they took of not being a cowardly faggot and running away from edgy Hot Topic bloodshine-blade wielding goth niggas at the drop of a spiky fedora, you really are the last Jedi because you're the last person acting remotely LIKE a Jedi.

In the KOTOR comic, the one with ya boy Zayne Carrick and hot space elf, at the end our protagonist's blind blonde ex-master who's child-chopping capabilities are an inspiration to Chosen Ones everywhere Lucien Draay rolls up on a group of farming space wizards living a humble existence on some shitty backwater NOT-dantooine farm world called Draay 2. Its actually a moon technically

These guys are the True Covenant, essentially an attempted revival of the not-shitty elements of the first Jedi Covenant the one that's now in ruins that was created by the late Krynda Draay as an attempt to use the Order's most powerful Jedi seers to detect the Sith before the Sith become a problem.

Lucien himself claims that the True Covenant is an amalgamation of his mother's ideas with his father's beliefs, or something along those lines, problem with that is I'm honestly not sure Lucien was really old enough to absorb his father's beliefs before he went the way of the Unabomber building, but it seems to me that the True Covenant is essentially a grass-roots and humbler version of the former Jedi Covenant, problem is we have no fucking info on them since no fucking info on them exists.

They apparently had the resources to construct a giant retarded temple to protect Haazen's jerking off glove, a gauntlet constructed by Ludo fucking Kressh himself to keep his lil' boy Elcho Kressh safe from space crabs or something, but since that idea is gay and retarded since, if you couldn't tell by the plain robes and farm-shit, a giant eccentric bullshit death trap temple with statues and three story carvings of Lucien Draay isn't exactly their fucking style FUCKING MORON WRITERS GOD DAMNIT WHY DID ANYBODY THINK THAT MADE SENSE FUCK

>>35073

I'm getting more rambly the sleepier I get, so bear with me as I LARP as a gay space opera history teacher

The Jedi Covenant was a faction within the Jedi Order itself formed by the legendary Jedi Consular and Seer Krynda Draay.

Horrified by the loss of just about everybody she gave a shit about during Exar Kun's Great Sith War, Krynda decided that the best solution to never dealing with the Sith's bullshit again was to take that dark sider cult wherever it may be born and stab it while its still a weird black-robed infant, using her farsight abilities and awe-inspiring connection to the Unifying Force to see visions and prophecies related to Sith shit.

However, Krynda realized that she may or may not be immortal and that when she died, her efforts to stop the Sith from popping back up would die with her. Jokes on her, according to Drew Karpyshyn everything she ever did was in vain because Vitiate's been giving her and the entire fucking covenant an invisible evil middle finger, so eat shit Krynda

So she scrounged together all the little Jedi boys and girls that could have a chance at excelling in the field of, well, looking fate itself up the ass and determining how to NOT fuck the entire Galaxy over, and shoved them in her windowless air speeder and shuttled them to her late husband's giant pimp crib on Coruscant where she trained the little plebs to interpret their acid trip dreams as not side-effects of drinking too much Juma juice, but instead that the rainbow hawk-bat playing hot potato with a blue beetle with red eyes and an impeccable eye for art was in fact an allegory for how space Hitler was gonna shove the Jedi into his own personal Jekk'Jekk Tar chamber and laugh at them from the Dark Side while he did it.

This was the Jedi Covenant, and in that second picture we have the FIRST Watch Circle. Watch Circles were essentially teams of Jedi tasked with, well, watching over a bit of space and having fever dreams about getting jobbed by some nigga in a red suit. The premier watch circle, the First one, was made up of both the Covenant and entire Jedi fucking ORDER's greatest big-brain seers, ones so skilled and capable they not only were capable of rooting out a milligram of Dark Side energy in their Padawan's grey matter, but some say they might even know what they

re gonna have for dinner the next day.

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>>35113

Thank you based revanchistanon for the big boy bump and for the dissertation length postings. Here're my ideas

>Characterizations

You nailed my ideas for Revan with the Light reference, and while a large amount of his POV will be him actively fighting the Mandalorians alongside actual Republic units there's going to be a pretty big portion of his exploits will be forging alliances with other organizations The Tionese, hutts, Echani, Zabrak and drawing them into the Republic's ranks. The Mandalorians do threaten these groups on their own and it does make logical sense for them to band together to steamroll the armored assholes, but Revan ends up mostly using them as cannon fodder to keep actual Republic casualties low, this ties into a lot of his actions in general

Revan's a big-picture big-brain 5d dejarik nigga who's ultimate goal is to keep the Galaxy safe from destroying itself, from his decades serving as a Jedi knight and seeing said Galaxy, he's come to the conclusion that the Republic with its vast military might, colossal economy, and supposed lack of corruption in his upper echelons would be the greatest vessel for his said plan of protecting the Galaxy, so his ultimate reason for going off and fighting the Mandalorians is to protect the Republic and his ultimate reason for recruiting from foreign groups is to use them as a buffer between the thing he actually cares about while bolstering his own forces so he can succeed in that first goal of keeping the Republic safe.

Revan's core character actually never changes, pure pragmatism and fedora-tippingly logical, and his big objective of keeping the Galaxy safe never changes either.

His story is more of him coming to grips with the fact that the Republic isn't what he thought it was, and him correcting that mistake and the Republic either by tempering it in blood or replacing it all together with a less shit regime.

Alek/Malak's motives are vaguely similar, he's thankful for the Republic because had they not incorporated his planet he wouldn't have become a Jedi and had he not become a Jedi he wouldn't have the life he currently has, one that he absolutely loves living and in general his motivations are a bit more simple than Revan's, plus he has the same reaction to galactic genocide that normal not-emotionally desensitized celibate monks have.

Sirun's motivations are a lot more different than Tau's, but they do have some similarities

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>>35113

Sirun's motivations for joining the Mandalorian wars are numerous but a few stand out,

>Daily Alderaans

I've already established that Sirun has slightly advanced Sense abilities but an absolutely stunning connection to the Living Force, so imagine what it's like kicking back and, I don't know, watching a Jedi-approved holoporno where the POV actor doesn't breath because he's a piston gonk droid and the female actress is in fact a shapely toaster, neither emoting or even giving off a mechanical whine as their servos loop an endless program as Wall-E's skinny lanklet vulgar cousin gives a speech about fucking machines in the background right before Master Vrook Lamar Qui-Gon's your door and lops your shoto-saber in half because the droids were too happy having completed the single task programmed into their behavior core, and all of a sudden you feel in the back of your mind six gorillion Toydarians cry out in pain as they strike the oncoming horde of green-skinned helmeted fucks in their beskar kneecaps, doing nothing but triggering a grin behind the Taung's blaster-proof faceplate as his vibrosword bats another metal dish-hat out of the air.

Now imagine that every time you go to the fresher to take a shit, every time you lay down at night to think about another scorching comeback for that ice cold Atris whore to gag on as she tries to spit another redundant Jedi platitude at you from her stupid frothing albino lips, and BOOM! More headaches, more pain.

Day in and day out, so not only are you being a bit of a whiny faggot since daddy dearest doesn't have time to play space catch with his boy no more, as you cling onto your artery-blocking levels of sugarcoated nostalgia reminiscing on the good ol' days back when pops and you were cutting up Flesh Raiders on Tython a month ago and you nearly got your throat ripped out by an exceptionally hungry and assholic Manka cat, then BOOM! Your head once again for the second time this lunch-break just got a durasteel sledge cracked across it by a pissed off Besalisk that thinks you stole the grease out of his frying pan to throw at that albino bitch. Which you didn't, but you should write it down its a great idea

then BAM! MORE FUCKING PAIN

And its not just the pain, but the fucking screams too. And unending cascade of shrill shrieks that came clawing from the shredded throats of countless men, women, and children spanning from Ord Mantell to the Corellian Run, each unique cry hitting a new high, each one-of-a-kind squeal birthed from the dying gasps of a dead man, one final desperate try to claw the darkness away and to anchor their soul to this world, one last act in a Galaxy that won't remember them.

And there's hundreds, thousands, MILLIONS

And he feels every single fucking one of them, and they won't fucking shut up

>>35132

That was from old senile schizo Krynda's perspective anon, boomers have a hard time getting their priorities all prim and proper anyways without a USS Liberty's worth of mental illness dropped on top of it.

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Alek/Malak isn't that bad of a person, he goes into the war with good intentions but he goes from wanting to protect the Republic's citizens to wanting to annihilate the Mandalorians. He begins to swing this way as a response to what he sees in the war, at first he views the Mandalorians as powerful but ultimately misguided barbarians, ones that once they get their backs broken they'll calm down, but after actually fighting them he begins to turn more and more genocidal as time goes on, sort of how like Tau/Revan sacrifices more and more to beat them.

I forgot to bring this up earlier, but Sirun is NOT a strategical or tactical genius like Tau, his skills and mindset just don't align enough.

Tau already looks at things from a big-picture standpoint, viewing the causes, effects, and potential future of situations in order to control them and grind events whatever way he thinks is favorable, Sirun on the other hand has a harder time focusing on the big picture and instead finds himself dedicating himself to issues close and immediately at hand, small picture events with simple yes or no choices that'll lead wherever they lead, Sirun is content to walk the paths placed before him, only he does his best to be a shepherd to those he's walking alongside.

Sirun's not a great general or commander, he's a much better boots on the ground captain or champion to follow, that Force Influence ability in KOTOR 2 leads to your companions having a sort of second sense towards your actions, reacting in a way so fast and so decisive that it's impossible that their reaction times are just absurdly fucking fast.

Kreia brings this up, and from what I can tell the Exile sort of indirectly relays information and inadvertently orders those he's bonded with.

A good example was something I was going to show in the Eres III part after Sirun's abilities have been more developed, so here's a rough outline of what its like.

>Exile's leading a fire team through a particularly hot spot

>Mandalorians, Neo-Crusaders and antique crusaders alike, dropping into the battlefield left and right from dropships or basilisks

>Sirun senses a Crusader about to peek out from behind cover, doesn't react

>The second his blue faceplate's revealed one of the soldiers puts a bolt in it

>Sirun senses a couple of more mandos coming up, gets Shien ready One of Sirun's earlier struggles that he's dealt with by now is his blast deflection abilities eating ass

>Sirun bats away their blasterfire while the squad doesn't hesitate to light them up

I'm done some work with Cell towers and the quick summary of how the lanky fucks work is like this.

>Phone sends signal to tower

>Signal goes down tower to the ground

>Data travels through the fiber back up the tower

>Tower spits data out as a signal to phone

It RELAYS data.

Sirun senses things stores that information in his brain naturally, like everyone else does, but due to that bond he shares with those around him the information gets copy and pasted into their own minds and since the entire unit is connected to Sirun he can make a quick decision to assign a member to a task, i.e. having the first guy on his right get ready to squeeze the trigger on that Mandalorian hiding behind a wall.

Or he can ready the entire unit since they're about to go head-to-head in open ground against a large group of Mandalorians, essentially giving him the chance to communicate to everybody he's directly bonded with the game plan for what's about to happen allowing him to coordinate them in a way that leads the already tight-knit unit to become something akin to a single body, with each member acting as a limb for Sirun who's busy playing brain.

It's sort of like battle meditation in a way, just on a much smaller and personal scale, and where battle meditation is an active ability that requires immense amount of focus and attention, Sirun has next to no real control over who he does and doesn't bond with, with his subconscious only vaguely aware of what's going on and Sirun's conscious mind simply having faith in those around him to support whatever decisions he makes.

Been a bit /sw/ Sorry.

Lying precariously on the Republic's southern border is the Seswenna Sector, a backwater plot of space home to the industrial powerhouse of Sullust and a planet blessed by nearby hyperlanes, a temperate world excelling in nothing other than being boring and forgettable, known to those with a memory ironclad enough to remember it.

Eriadu.

On this spinning ball of molten ice and green-infested rock born to a family of middle-class factory workers was a young man name Tol, Tol Cressa. Tol decided that he was above his lineage's call of breathing in toxic metal-coating fumes and dying at 30, so he made the pragmatic decision and fucked off to the Republic military.

Having a knack for organization and logistical analysis, Tol eventually crawled his way up the ranks of the Seswenna Sector Army and became an officer in the sector's Logistics Corps, and after a certain incident where the antiquated repulsorlift vehicle fleet of the Sector Army did an oopsy and lead to an entire regiment getting pinned down by (definitely not hutt) pirates trying to get their grubby Weequay hands on the hundred kilos of zippy juice that got legally commandeered by Republic forces.

After a few trips to Coruscant with Eriadu's senator where the latter begged the bigwig tiny dick senators to give his frontier shithole sector a bigger military budget and Cressa flat out stating that the senators' economic interests in the region'd get their assholes raped by twi'lek-STD ridden pirate peepee if they sat back with their dicks in their hand and thumb up the ass and watched as the underfunded underfunded by shitty barely held together Republic military standards, these fucks are lucky to have UNIFORMS and are getting driven around by the equivalent of Space Priuses when in reality they should at least have Astro-Hummers

After repeated trips to the Senate for more funding gibs and permission to invade the nearby Sluis Sector to hunt a mercenary army-turned pirate force that may or may not've turned around and sacked the planet they were supposed to be garrisoning. Remember Kabal never forget never forgive Cressa found himself more and more infuriated by the Senate but also more and more infatuated with it, seeing it as an absolute cluster fuck. It's like a busted shuttle with both engines spitting out sparks and dipping in and out of life while the blind deaf mentally-retarded pilot's doing barrel rolls because the howling demons shaped like a coynite fox screams and claws at his squishy grey matter. Any reasonable person would through their hands up in the air and just cut their losses, accepting that no matter what they do that shuttle aint going to do anything they want it to, other than crash horrifically into a population center.

Problem is, said shuttle's carrying the last droid coordination box in the sector and it's supposed to be headed towards the front lines where two battalions worth of Sentinel units are standing their looking like big shiny assholes 'cause they forgot how to pull their triggers now that some spiced up Hutt goon just slammed his swoop bike into the last droid control box, Tol Cressa is a Logistics Officer and he is going to do whatever it fucking takes to get that multi-ton brain box where it needs to be, whether that includes dragging some robed-up pacifist with magic wizard powers out of their gay temple so they can drag it out of the sky or using sheer force of will to guide the ship to the front lines or maybe Hell, he'll just use a laser cannon to crash it himself before repairing the box and dragging it himself to the retarded silver murder robots.

Whatever needs to get done he will get it done, capitulation and compromise aren't in his vocabulary, he will do whatever he needs to and he will absolutely do it his way.

This sort of brute-force method of waging political war shredded the prancing incestuous faggotry that ruled the Senate, and after turning Eriadu into an economic pimp whipping Sullust, Sluis Van, and Mustafar with its sea-shell encrusted dick and forcing them through absurd trade deals, military occupation, and a general purpose in life respectively, there were few in the Senate with the balls or ability to square up to the Strongman of Eriadu when he decided to run for chancellorship, content with the work he'd done to his home, intent on continuing said work across the Galaxy.

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I'm stupid. Here's a 20 minute edit of Brian Matyas' work.

Chancellors from Fillorean to the former Rocket-Jumper Vocatara have a tendency to wear these gay little robes made of a rare material probably harvested off of space squirrels known as Veda, impossibly soft and smooth, Veda is basically the ye olde velvet of Star Wars.

Tol Cressa can't stand that flowery shit. Cressa's got a few nicknames but the most appropriate one in this content is "robeless," as despite being chancellor for more than his fair share of sessions, this man has never even worn a Chancery robe in his entire career, instead favoring military formal dress uniquely designed and tailored for himself.

He's worn everything from his Seswenna Sector Army Logistics Corps formals to even a set of shitty uniforms he wore during his time in the boot while he gave a speech at a pinnacle hearing regarding special space tariffs on known hutt-affiliated worlds.

He absolutely disdains all of the flowery dumbshit that goes on in the Senate, and has seemingly made it his life's mission to cleanse the Republic of these shitty elements he dislikes.

That's what makes it so funny when he starts using them more and more as a crutch to stay in office, but you'll have to excuse me because all this on the fly political stuff is giving me a stomach ache

Time to talk about the Covenant again.

Here's a tl;dr on how the Covenant operates

>Watch Circles

Also spelled WatchCircles, which not only looks stupid but also clashes with another group term as shown in the highlighted text.

WatchCircles don't have a space in them, as you can see in yellow and orange, but the Market Manipulators Definitely Legal Stock Study Circle which literally uses the Force to abuse the Intergalactic stock market, the words look nice and pretty because there's a space between every one of them.

Because of this, and the fact that WatchCircle gives me a headache, I'll be typing Watch Circle instead.

Now about what they do. Watch Circles are groups of Jedi seers handpicked by Krynda Draay to operate with one another, the foremost "First Watch Circle" is the one in the first image, the Taris-bound Watch Circle. They're called this either because they were the first, something that I'm still not sure about despite researching it or because they are the foremost and most important Watch Circle, since Krynda seems to think that they'll be the ones to realize her dream of making sure the Sith never come back.

>Why Krynda made this

Krynda made the Covenant in an attempt to use the Unifying Force's precognitive properties to sense and then locate the Sith if and when they pop back up BEFORE they pop back up, essentially allowing them to throw the space baby out the window before it gets old enough to zap them.

>What do watch circles actually do

Attached to a watch circle are two elements, the Eyes and the Hand. I made the Eyes term up, but Lucien Draay is constantly being referred to as the circle's Hand The Eyes are the seers, they kick back and have schizophrenic nightmares and then they cry to the Hand about it.

The Hand is a Jedi guardian who's job is to keep the seers safe. They're picked for two big reasons, their ability to make bad men disappear, and their inability to see the future and question the seers' visions.

The Hand's job is to react to the Eyes' visions, either marching halfway across the Galaxy to decapitate a little boy who hates sand or maybe doing it in his backyard and just bisecting his padawan. The Hand doesn't question, the Hand simply does.

Lucien Draay was the Hand of the First Watch Circle, and all the other weirdo child genociders were the seers. Even Raana Tey, who herself was pretty fucking scary with a lightsaber

So tl;dr, Eyes = Seers that have spooky dreams and interpret spooky dreams, Hand = poor pleb sent to go butcher babies based on those spooky dreams

>How many circles

No clue. It's at least 2, because we follow members of the First Watch Circle in the comic and hear about a Watch Circle Vodo, who apparently is shit and doesn't know that God is pissing on them when its raining. These guys sensed that the space elf guy was gonna use his space worm leviathans to get a profit from Mandalore, only they thought that the Sith were gonna buy it for some fucking reason. Maybe Vitty's doing more than just gifting gifts to the Mandos? Maybe he's also using his facebook libra to fund them too

This makes me ask a simple question: Why isn't this other Watch Circle numbered? Why are they special enough to have a name?

The answer is simple! Its the same reason why most of the incomprehensible shit happens in the comics, the writers didn't give a fuck.

The Watch Circles are named after famous Jedi/ones that were important to Krynda herself, Vodo was one of her masters so one of the Circles carries his name, Arca Jeth was her primary master so I'm naming the First Watch Circle after him.

I'm also adding a third watch circle for shits and giggles, Watch Circle Memit.

>why

Because, a precedent for the Covenant being fuckhuge has been set by the sheer amount of Jedi Shadows they have (I'll talk about them later) and the existence of other watch circles, and I doubt that Krynda lacks the autism to treat the Tetans, who were literally ruled by a Dark Sider dynasty four decades ago, with anything other than absolute contempt and caution, so the idea of her dedicating an entire Watch Circle to making sure those retards don't start singing Sith hymns before bed every night seems perfectly in character for this geriatric dumbass.

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It's ironic that I'm making fun of Krynda for being old and crazy when I'm forgetting to add images left and right. Here's the symbol I came up for the Jedi Covenant

It's the shining star in the Jedi symbol with the outline of an eye cut out, representing Krynda's desire to turn into a sort of Sauron in terms of being one big all seeing eye without the fire and brimstone. Unless said fire and brimstone is on top of broken massassi baby bones, in that case she's fucking Melkor

Covenant Shadows are dumb, let me explain them. They're each Jedi that've had their paper trail linking them to the Order annihilated, the Archives are incompl- allowing them to operate with maximum mobility when completing whatever task the Covenant's assigned them since they don't have to worry about the Council knocking on their door when they hear that good ol' Bataui Zeel or whoever murdered a family on Ord Mantell and burned the house down after the family recently repainted their house black or whatever fucking thing they did, the point is that they have nothing linking or connecting them to any organization, letting them operate with nothing doctrinal or legal holding them back.

The sheer amount of them is fucking staggering, as you have to remember that each and every one of them has had basically every single document with their name or description available to the JEDI, who probably have tabs on shit happening across the Galaxy dating back to pre-Republic times because they can sense the fucking future and can at least scribble a drawing of weird hammerhead dickheads getting BTFO'd by spiky red guys on the wall using their blue and green crayons.

The fact that the Covenant has removed a couple of people from the archives is impressive, but ALL of these fuckers? Das amazin'

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Sadly for the Covenant though, after Haazen revealed himself to be a gigantic Sith-obsessed larping faggot their little organization got its shit pushed in by the Jedi Order, with the watch circles getting separated and countless Shadows finding themselves either apprehended or fleeing known space because the Order doesn't take kindly to having its former members giving them a bad name by working alongside a now debunked group of batshit insane assholes. I'm paraphrasing what I read about them, the Jedi apparently arrested them in the middle of the Mandalorian Wars and didn't give a fuck. This might explain why Revan had so many Sith out of nowhere, since all these dark jedi are now space hobos

Now a few Shadows got away and that's all fine and dandy, the entire reason why I'm talking about these speds is because of what happened AFTER the Covenant was dissolved.

Lucien Draay reorganized and reformed the Jedi Covenant on a tiny temperate moon he bought way back when, dubbing it the True Covenant and claiming that it'd be the bastard child of Krynda's anti-Sith obsession and Barrison Draay's moral code of not listening to others and doing what others tell you that you can't do just to spite them.

Another important amendment to the Covenant's doctrines that Lucien made was probably THE most important and telling one, no longer would playing Peeping tom on the future be the Covenant's go-to modus operandi, instead of just inadvertently causing the apocalyptic future they were afraid of, they'd also PREPARE for said apocalyptic future and do their best to wait it out, turtling where Krynda's covenant would've broken and probably just fallen.

The new insignia has a bit of symbolism to it, where the old one was just the central star with an eye, the new one flipped upside down.

>Lowest tail

The lower tail is thicker than the original's top, showing how where the old organization lashed out, well, outwards, the new organization is firmly rooted down, grounded in its doctrines and beliefs and even more so in their morals.

The top tails of the new star are different too, as they're all equal where the original had the top and bottom travel a bit more than the others, instead the new star is sort of like a lovechild between a caltrop and a railroad spike, biting deep into the earth for stability but also covered by a needle-y head that screams "Don't touch my bread gubment"

The True Covenant also employs Shadows, however where the original ones were unrestrained bulldozers, the new ones are at least bound by a firm moral code, even if said moral code in reality is a blind pissed off Lucien swinging his lightsaber around if they act like space dickheads.

In that second image I got bored and came up with a comparison, the old Covenant was a dark shard hidden in a white field, Jedi in name yet despite the title they murdered innocents, lied to and deceived the Council, and shit all over everything the Jedi stood for in their mindless quest to stop the dark that they were fueling.

The True Covenant's in a different situation though, in a Galaxy where the Jedi have all but disappeared because they got their shit pushed in by a moving corpse or had said shit eaten up for dinner by a particularly hungry boy, the True Covenant's a light in the dark, trying desperately to keep the Jedi alive all while hiding themselves from the Forces trying to keep the Jedi dead. This is why I'm bringing them up, after Sirun Krii basically outs himself as having returned on Nar Shaddaa after a holorecording of him carving a path through Jekk'Jekk Tar and the subsequent decimation of an entire Ubese clan at his hands gets leaked, it only makes sense that Lucien would do everything he could to bring another Jedi, a TRUE Jedi, Which is funny since Sirun's far from that into the fold to protect him from the Sith, or to sick him on the Sith sort of like how Kreia uses him.