No.30690
>original trilogy in no way implied Jedi couldn't marry so there were plenty of people who were the kids of Jedi
<varied between surprisingly few Jedi caring about the rules, the Corellian Jedi being weird and (least oddly) post Order 66 Jedi marrying as they hid
>nobody had any idea who Boba Fett was or what he looked like beyond "maybe like Jeremy Bulloch?" so there were multiple, contradictory, stories about him (some of which even implied he was female)
<retconned into being bullshit he spread to make gathering information on him harder and impersonators, one of whom was his daughter
>deleted scenes outright stated non-clone non-Jedi fought in the Clone Wars
<they did, planetary defense forces fought a lot of battles without or alongside clones
>Lucas couldn't decide when the Clone Wars were till he was making Episode II so early EU writers were told it happened much earlier than it did
<these dates are all quietly ignored
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No.30691
>>30690
>deleted scenes outright stated non-clone non-Jedi fought in the Clone Wars
they used this in TFU, rahm kota never used clone soldiers.
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No.30693
>>30691
I knew. I don't think any of the old military guys who fought in the Clone Wars were retconned into being part of his band though so it's not all that relevent.
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No.30700
>>30690
>original trilogy in no way implied Jedi couldn't marry so there were plenty of people who were the kids of Jedi
>varied between surprisingly few Jedi caring about the rules, the Corellian Jedi being weird and (least oddly) post Order 66 Jedi marrying as they hid
I always disliked that stupid no marriage/love rule.
>>30690
>nobody had any idea who Boba Fett was or what he looked like beyond "maybe like Jeremy Bulloch?
One instance gave him a humanoid alien design which I honestly liked a lot more than his human actor's look. The thought of mandalorians being actual ayys instead of snowflake humans seems more interesting to me, but then again I've kinda grown too attached to the current incarnation of Mandalorians.
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No.30702
Was there ever any attempt to explain away the clone wars time frame going from roughly 40 years ago to roughly 20 years ago? It strikes me you could quite easily just say years are counted differently in some parts of the galaxy, or the Empire threw people off by changing the dating system.
Also, at what point did "Dark Jedi" become "Sith"?
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No.30703
Still unsure of whether the Imperial Capital Planet in Dark Empire is Supposed to be the same place as Coruscant, or whether Corellia was originally envisioned as a planet or just a region of Nal Hutta.
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No.30710
>>30702
>Was there ever any attempt to explain away the clone wars time frame going from roughly 40 years ago to roughly 20 years ago?
It's just sort of glossed over, unfortunately.
>Also, at what point did "Dark Jedi" become "Sith"?
They've always been considered two different things–Dark Jedi is a catch-all term for independent darkside Force users, but Sith refers specifically to those darksiders who follow the Sith philosophy and adhere to the Sith code. While we never heard the term "Sith" onscreen until the PT, George used it repeatedly in his scripts and similar material, so EU authors knew of the term before TPM was released.
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No.30719
There's also the "Force Ghost is a learned and rare skill" thing. In defense of all the pre-EP 3 writers though, that was stupid and created plot holes within the films (How did Anakin learn it?).
>>30702
Supposedly the Nogiri were mistaken on the conversion from local years to galactic standard. Doesn't really match the dialog in The Last Command. All the others are just quietly ignored.
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No.30720
>>30719
>There's also the "Force Ghost is a learned and rare skill" thing. In defense of all the pre-EP 3 writers though, that was stupid and created plot holes within the films (How did Anakin learn it?).
Exactly. It was a dumb move to make it a technique rather than part of a Jedi's spiritual growth or an ability a force spirit can pass on to another recently deceased jedi. They even show Yoda and Kenobi having to go through such strenuous bullshit to learn it yet Anakin didn't need to be taught squat and naturally became one. And in the end George and Filoni's show just dropped a massive shitpile on to the films and pre-existing lore more so than the prequels ever did.
One thing that does bother me most though is that ROTJ has Luke asking Leia about their mother yet the prequels clearly show that she died in childbirth. A fucking better alternative to this would've been to have Padme survive the birthing and live out her last shortened years on Alderaan only to die 4 years later when Leia would be old enough to have memories of her. And before anyone calls me a Disney shill, I ain't (I probably despise Disney more than anyone else on this board) these are just issues I had with the prequels and Filoni's cartoon which I never really had a chance to vent about before.
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No.30729
>>30720
Disney shill.
Force ghosts helping others to become ghosts just makes it force AIDS. It doesn't have to be anything other than something which can happen. When a force user has unfinished business they can manifest for a very short time with another force sensitive. Work it like Gundam Newtypes where it's not something everyone sees, it could only be a split second of real contact but it lasts for infinity to the sensitives incontact.
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No.30736
>>30720
>A fucking better alternative to this would've been to have Padme survive the birthing and live out her last shortened years on Alderaan only to die 4 years later when Leia would be old enough to have memories of her.
The central tragedy of Anakin Skywalker is that he turns on his friends in the Jedi Order and submits to what amounts to a deal with the Devil just so he can save Padmé, and yet these actions lead to her death. His tale would lose a lot of its strength if she survived because that was exactly the outcome he sacrificed himself for.
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No.30739
>>30720
>Luke asking Leia about their mother yet the prequels clearly show that she died in childbirth
eh i always assumed leia meant bail organa's wife, seeing as how she's only around in like two seconds of episode 3, it fits in quite well.
>>30702
>the clone wars time frame going from roughly 40 years ago to roughly 20 years ago?
relativity? might be 40 years for someone in the outer rim but 20 for someone closer to the core.
>>30703
the imperial capital in dark empire is byss, it was a backup planet sheev had ready to go in case he ever lost coruscant.
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No.30746
>>30739
I mean the planet they refer to as the Imperial Capital. The one they land on at the very beginning.
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No.30752
>>30746
oh ok, that's supposed to be coruscant iirc
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No.30754
>>30752
It's confusing that the characters don't seem to have been there before, even though Dark Empire is supposed to be after Thrawn, but I realise they were written simultaneously, and their positions in the timeline got switched, which is probably why.
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No.30755
>>30754
that was a fairly common occurrence with pre-SE EU, lots of projects were in the works at simultaneous times and timeline shit was shifting around constantly
I forget which specific titles, but I read it in a SWI article years ago that there was a book with Han and Leia being married, then another book set five years after with no mention of them ever having been married or having kids
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