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How is he? Are his books worth reading?
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No.7440
>>6561
Reminder, we already have a thread for that silliness. Post quotes instead.
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No.8885
>>5432
you say that like Zahn got hit with the social justice hammer he didn't did he?
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No.8887
>>8885
to my understanding, he adapted to it in order to be allowed to write thrawn shit again.
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No.8893
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No.8902
>>8885
No. I'm saying they're worth a read. Always. But the new Thrawn just feels neutered. Repressed. Tarkin was pure gold and completely unhindered with great writing and EU tidbits around every corner.
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No.8908
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>>4143
>>4142
>>4144
Want a few chills? Because this is how you get them.
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No.8912
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No.8914
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>>8912
An alternate take. The risible "NOOOO" is now a primal scream of anguish and self-loathing.
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No.8918
>>6561
>a nigger wrote a story about a garbage monster being a force-sensitive priestess who baptized Luke, and it is in Disney's DU but most of this thread isn’t.
I know? isn't great! ^_^
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No.8920
>>8918
Speaking of. Will anyone storytime the other shitty stories in that compendium of nu-EU shit? There's dozens of stories in that which we have yet to tap for mockery.
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No.8924
>>8920
If you could, at least try to keep it in either the Wendig or Diagnoga threads. This one is for the good shit only.
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No.8925
>>8924
Well obviously. But the question is if some poor soul will be brave enough to actually buy or steal a copy of the nu book and upload its contents on our board for our amusement.
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No.8928
>>8920
>>8924
What if I only showed you one panel?
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No.8929
>>8928
>a literal snowflake
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No.8932
Is the Han Solo Adventures trilogy still worth reading?
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No.8933
>>8932
I liked it when I read it. A few details here and there (like Boba Fett's identity, or who got the rebel plans) are noncanon now, but they're still enjoyable reads.
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No.8940
>>8932
Of course they are. Never let anyone tell you otherwise.
>>8933
>are noncanon now
>implying "canon" means anything anymore when it comes to Disney's faggotry
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No.8946
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No.12131
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No.12139
>>12131
captain panaka from episode 1 became an imperial officer? made it up to moff rank? shieet.
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No.12142
>>12131
>old lore
>Panaka becomes a true blue devoted imperial who values status, betrays his people and his queen's ideals, becomes fleshed out as a massive dick of equal dickery to others in the high imperial ranks and gets humorously fucked over by a Gungan in the end and everything he's ever done bites him in the ass and is portrayed like a realistic character
>new lore
>Panaka becomes some stereotypical "badass black guy" trooper who cameos once in Rebels and gets killed by Saw "We Wuz Rebels n Shit" Gerrera just so they can hype up a shitty one time character from Clone Wars for his movie cameo, despite that Saw's story arc was shit, that his sister did more overall, and really wasn't worth a damn but they still keep trying to set him up as the noble "First Rebel" who co-founded the rebels
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No.12152
>>12142
>Saw Gerrera the first noble rebel
I hate that they push that shit. I always thought the Rebellion was a combination of independent rebellions that coallesced into one big rebellion and that it was made up of members of former CIS, Clone war vets and etc. That feels more organic than one guy starting it all.
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No.12155
>>12152
Exactly. And even if you wanna get technical, the actual group who began the spark of rebellion were Mothma, Organa and Padme as they were even opposing the Republic's corruption before it became the Empire and secretly encouraged, supported and financed rebellions wherever they saw the potential for it, and rebellions were starting all across the galaxy in small numbers, each eventually uniting thanks to those three politicians, but now comes this asshole who is seen as the greatest and "first true" rebel. And why the fuck is he even the first? That's just fuck all retarded as there were probably dozens of rebels cropping up around the same time as soon as the Empire was formed, and that title of first just makes it sound like he was literally the first jackass to ever rebel against anything.
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No.12158
>>12142
Going by his Wookiepedia page, he was a pretty sensible guy. He wanted to protect Naboo, even if he betrayed its ideals, and while he was a hardass, he would still let aliens work for his government if they went beyond his expectations. Methinks Jason Fry likes writing "lawful and sometimes good" Imperials, judging by his other "War Portraits" found throughout EGW.
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No.12163
>>12158
Hence why he felt like a realistic character. Despite his decisions, he does what he thinks is best and that adds a level of deepness.
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No.12166
>>12158
>betrayed his ideals
Nope. His ideal was the protection of Naboo, just that. It was Amidala who cared about democracy, the little orphans and all. Panaka never betrayed anything. Also there is nothing that indicates that e knew about Palpatine sith identity or even that he was a force user.
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No.12169
>>12166
Uh, dubsman? I said "its" not "his." You might want to get your eyes checked.
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No.12215
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No.12217
>>12215
I did not like that about the game. Even then Mon Mothma was sitll one of the people involved so it doesn't technically violate what >>12155 said.
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No.12218
>>12215
That was actually one of the weaker aspects of the game's story, but still, Starkiller wasn't the "First Rebel", and simply helped to inspire them against the Empire. Even if I'm not fond of that aspect of Force Unleashed's story, its still a million times better than the bland and soulless effort to push Garrera. Starkiller felt alive and it was a fleshed out story, and Garrera is just cheap CW fanwank using one of the most irrelevant characters they had, probably because he was one of the few blacks on the show, and just dropping him into the shitty new canon by constantly tying him with that Jan Ors knock off.
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No.12413
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All Things Die, Anakin Skywalker. Even Stars Burn Out.
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No.13191
>>3014
I've listened to that book. It's pretty damn good. That and I like the voice for it.
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No.13234
http://www.starwars.com/news/the-essential-guide-to-warfare-authors-cut-part-9-battlfields-of-the-clone-wars
Found something interesting on aberrant Clones:
As the Kaminoans would reluctantly admit, genetics is not a perfect science –aberrations in a clone’s gestational environment and random mutations sometimes produced clones with different physical features, or that were simply wired differently than their batchers. Most of the time, these physical differences were slight enough that they could be ignored – eye color proved particularly prone to variation – or severe enough that the aberrant clone was reconditioned early in its development.
But mental aberrations were harder to detect – and other defects were sometimes introduced by mistakes in the clones’ flash-training. While the vast majority of clones followed orders automatically, a few did not. As the Kaminoans’ own models predicted, the vast majority of these incidents involved ARC troopers and clone commandos, whose behavior had been manipulated minimally to preserve their independence and ability to improvise. But there were incidents involving rank-and-file clone troopers, too.
Some clones suffered from paranoid delusions in the heat of the battle. The Mad Clone of Kaikielius – as he was dubbed by HoloNet commenters – turned his weapons on his batchers during a recon mission and was found sitting docilely on an outcropping, surrounded by their bodies. Interrogated by Republic Intelligence, he insisted that the entire Kaikielius campaign was a training exercise and complimented the trainers for their increasingly fiendish challenges, admitting that he’d nearly been tricked by the decision to simulate commando droids wearing his batchers’ armor and even using familiar unit nicknames.
Other clones rejected the basics of their indoctrination. The clone sergeant nicknamed Slick conspired with the Separatists on Christophsis, severely complicating Republic efforts to retake the planet. Fives, a clone trooper admitted to the ARC training program, suffered an apparent paranoid breakdown and reportedly plotted to kill Chancellor Palpatine. The ARC trooper known as Spar was reconditioned for aberrant behavior on Kamino, but successfully resisted reprogramming and hid his true thoughts from his trainers. Spar also reported being able to recall fragments of Jango Fett’s own memories, a real but vanishingly rare phenomenon in cloning. He deserted from the Grand Army and became a bounty hunter serving the Separatists, eventually re-emerging as a Mandalorian leader.
Now and again clones – mostly ARCs and commandos — retained sufficient independence to make up their own minds about the conduct of the war, and either refused orders or fled the war altogether. Some clones refused to accept Order 66 — the 22nd Air Combat Wing’s Ion Team, for example, helped Roan Shryne and two other Jedi escape Republic forces on Murkhana. Kal Skirata’s Null Squad deserted en masse, as did other clone troopers he had trained. And some clone troopers survived encounters in which they were listed as MIA or KIA, taking the advantage to slip away to a quieter life. The story of one such clone, Cut Lawquane, emerged in the time of New Republic with the publication of Shaeeah Lawquane’s memoir of a Felucian childhood, entitled My Stepfather’s Face: A Soldier’s Secret.
And some clones became famous not for disobeying orders, but for bad luck. The clone trooper Able was marooned on the remote jungle world Lubang Minor in 21 BBY, encountered by rebel forces after the Battle of Yavin, and fought for the Alliance. A stranger story was that of the Lost Prophet, a holy man whose gnomic utterances attracted pilgrims to a mountain cave on the desert world of Du Mai. In 21 ABY, the journalist Cindel Towani offered compelling evidence that the Lost Prophet was a castaway who’d sustained head injuries in the crash of his ARC-170 during the final days of the war. Towani revealed that the advice he gave pilgrims consisted of scrambled bits of his Kaminoan conditioning and flash-training.
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No.17553
>>13234
Didn't know about this, huh.
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No.17559
>>4410
>Eyy looked at 'em skeptically
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No.17567
Generic nucanon author only distinguished in the fact he isn't unreadable to the point of anger like everyone else, but Tarkin and Plagueis are still quite awful.
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No.17568
>>17567
And here is the contrarian. Care to explain yourself?
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No.17570
>>17568
For starters, the biggest sin Plagueis makes is it confirms and legitimizes, rather than debunk and invalidates, the dumb as dogshit concept of Anakin's birth being set up by Palps and Las Plagas.
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No.17572
>>17570
Okaaaay, that explains why you don't like it, but now it just leads to the question of why this is dumb. Also, that's only one thing. Use the autism, anon.
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No.17573
>>17570
>it confirms and legitimizes, rather than debunk and invalidates, the dumb as dogshit concept of Anakin's birth being set up by Palps and Las Plagas.
That's really more of a personal gripe than it is something objectively bad about the writing. Further, it's not strictly speaking accurate. Plagueis and Sidious inadvertently caused Anakin to be born, it wasn't a deliberate set-up on either of their parts.
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No.17578
>>17573
Not the anon you were replying to, but that's a little better. I don't really think the movies support the notion of Sheev being some sort of master ruseman that was playing 1024D chess, I always got the impression that he made things up as he went along to bring himself into a position where he couldn't lose. Like, if the CIS had won the Clone Wars, he would still rule the galaxy.
For example, him and Plagueis intentionally creating Anakin would imply that he planned to take him on as an apprentice, which raises an entire host of questions.
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No.17581
>>17578
>I always got the impression that he made things up as he went along to bring himself into a position where he couldn't lose.
This seems a bit contradictory to me. Isn't the entire point of 8D chess, all-according-to-keikaku style schemes not to pursue one very specific chain of events, but to strategically maneuver yourself and others such that every outcome is a win for you?
>For example, him and Plagueis intentionally creating Anakin would imply that he planned to take him on as an apprentice, which raises an entire host of questions.
Quite right, and I don't believe any official material, including Plagueis, implies this.
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No.17586
>>17581
Does 4D chess even have a proper definition? I always thought of it as planning ahead, and him having the plan to use the clone army to turn the Republic into an Empire from the outset would require him to think around a billion corners. I guess it's semantics. Point is, I have the impression that Sheev is presented as some kind of great schemer, while I think he's just a great tactitian.
And I don't know where I read it or who said it, but I thought him and Plagueis creating Anakin on purpose purpose was at least implied somewhere. Maybe that was just some theory I took at face value.
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No.17595
>>17573
>>17572
There's also the issue of Tarkin making Tarkin look like an idiot and making the Empire less morally ambiguous.
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No.17596
>>17595
>There's also the issue of Tarkin making Tarkin look like an idiot
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No.17611
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No.17616
alot of good stuff itt, I'll have to check out these books. also, Chuck Wendig is a faggot. while that's a redundant statement, I just wanted to say it on the internet.
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No.18744
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No.18758
>>17570
>>17573
>>17578
>>17581
>>17586
>the biggest sin Plagueis makes is it confirms and legitimizes, rather than debunk and invalidates, the dumb as dogshit concept of Anakin's birth being set up by Palps and Las Plagas.
It's not that simple. Anakin is sort of a self-defense mechanism of the force that was destined to be unleashed if shit was about to go down (and since Anakin is part of a prophecy, that means Palpatine etc everyone are all part of some predetermined destiny we cannot understand). The time of his birth also coincides with the aggressive Sith rituals/meditation/experiments Palpatine and Plagueis were trying out. There are multiple reasons for Anakins birth and the whole event is structured in a way where everything fits into place. Anakin exists because he needs to. Palpatine exists because he needs to. Plagueis exists because he needs to. Everything happens because it needs to. The EU just makes it seem like there's an element of causality to all of it (as if you were observing the whole thing as an inhabitant of that fictional universe). The truth is though, everything is pretty much set in stone. Always in motion, the future is not. The future is set in stone, one way or the other. Anakin is a result of ancient Je'daii meme magic.
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No.18810
>>18758
>Anakin is sort of a self-defense mechanism of the force that was destined to be unleashed if shit was about to go down
That's essentially what I said in >>17573 and >>17581, no? Not sure why you tagged those.
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