No.29256 [Last50 Posts]
>Force Awakens got me so hyped but then TLJ ruined everything…
>Rogue One is the only good Disney Wars (and my second favorite after ESB)
>God I love that Vader hallway scene!!!!
>It's not about race and gender…
>I hope Abrams will save the franchise
>As much as I despised TLJ, you should never harass an actress (talking about the so-called harassment of Tran that was never really proven)
>you want a good example of a great SW female character: Ahsoka Tano!
>just give Lucasfilm to Kevin Feige (Infinity Wars was such a masterpiece!)
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No.29257
>TFA actually functions as a narrative.
>I'll take a well made rehash over a complete crap fest of new content any day of the week. You might not like TFA because it was pretty much a rehash of ANH, right down to Rey being just as much of a Mary Sue as Luke but at least the movie works.
>TFA played it way too safe, but at least it tried to give the fans what they wanted.
>I really enjoyed Solo, much more than TLJ and TFA.
>(on Solo)I was pleasantly surprised. It's amazing how skilled Ron Howard and Lawrence Kasdan are at storytelling compared to RJ. They are very seasoned filmmakers and they make TLJ look like a high school movie. It has some dumb moments but overall the directing is very solid.
>Solo was good
>So liking a movie is shilling now? Solo was enjoyable
>Oh C'mon…No it wasn't. Solo is pure SW except for that fucking droid. As bad as TLJ…no, Solo at least made sense
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No.29258
>>29256
>>29257
Yeah pretty much nailed it. I don't have anything to add. I will say though that I have nothing against tcw-Ahsoka Tano, because I always found her to be a fascinating responsibility for Anakin. I just don't care for tcw-Anakin that much.
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No.29260
>It's not about race and gender
It's not really. It's about disruptive elements of society wielding those things as weapons. I guess it is about a certain race, if you catch my drift.
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No.29262
TLJ is the worst fucking one. I know there are people who want to talk about how much the others suck, and that's fine, but TLJ is the worst.
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No.29263
>>29262
It's second worst. TFA is worst. A big part of the problem with TLJ is being a sequel to that mess in the first place.
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No.29264
>>29263
THIS. That's precisely the goyest thing ever to think TLJ is what it is just because of Johnson. As if that jewish mockery of ANH that was TFA was any better.
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No.29265
>>29263
>>29264
This is Rianfaggotry. TLJ is the worst. Stop being queer. TFA ruined the franchise but Rian is the worst thing to happen to Star Wars.
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No.29266
>>29264
It's not good or anything. Anything's better than TFA though.
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No.29267
>>29265
Nah. Rian's a big dumb idiot who broke the spell. You should thank him really.
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No.29268
>>29260
It is and yes it was definitely used as a weapon by a tribalist, hand rubbing, dual citizenship, usery employing, and internationalist cabal/race of "merchants".
Every soywars movie has female lead even the Han Solo movie, Solo plays a secondary role to the GoT chick who once again has no nude scenes. Also what is the point of using that actress if she does not strip? It’s not like she can act. The "force is female™" bullshit and the Kathleen Kennedy’s statement about not pandering to the Star Wars fandom ie men, so sorry little Timmy (age 8) you liked the OT and or the PT there will never be a new movie made for you, or your friends, or your dad to enjoy all the nu-movies are made for 30+ year old single, childless (shocker), california millennial, feminists with useless degrees in gender studies.
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No.29270
>>29268
Yeah, all of that's the problem. Not women existing in movies. Don't fall for their false dichotomy.
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No.29272
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No.29274
>>29272
Keep a watch out for that boogeyman, pussy.
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No.29275
>>29272
You're stupid (Kashyyk forest nigger of course). It's so funny because you actually recognized yourself in this green text and that triggered you. It's your favorite jew who started that resistance/FO non-sense, negro jump scare trailer, Marey sue, uber nazification of the bad guys etc. All those mystery boxes were literally a big fuck to the poor next bastard who would have to deal with it. And Johnson partly made that shitfest by saying "Well fuck you too" (and of course also adding his own particular kind of pozzed shit such as Tico and Holdo).
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No.29277
>>29270
>Women in movies
Sure there were women in movies since movies happened. The issue is that that they shit one men just because of disney’s petty & envious politics (marxism) and their refusal to make films with the main character being a man because of these backward politics. Essentially they (Disney) wanted to stir the pot and at the same time gloat about their victory in securing and ruining this mainly white men and or generally guy dominated franchise, as stated they shit openly on all men including the fans whom are in fact children.
All they had to do If they went with a woman as the lead character to appeal to everyone is first the girl has to be attractive. She should not be a plain Jane (pretty face + tits and ass which seems to be rare in hollywood), even the Chinese commented on and criticized the ugliness of the characters. Second there should be several important and well done male supporting characters that are critical to the story, and are very masculine/cool. There are several character types that can be put in for example a 80’s action hero type of character (Schwarzenegger or Stallone) that blows stuff to smithereens, gunslinger, or strategic geniuses (a Rommel, Model, Thrawn Lelouche type) on both sides, etc.. The point is all men being incompetent or all white men being criminals should obviously not be part of the story writing.
Third the girl cannot be a marysue she should “earn her place” in the story and not automatically be the very “bestest at everything”. If anything she should struggle more than Luke or Anakin did to master the force and become a jedi. In addition to be honest it makes no sense to have her or any new jedi (even a man) suddenly be the most powerful evar! Why not just a promising student that has to overcome more powerful opponents, one that relies on herself and friends to do so? It would certainly help build the character. Also being a backwater planet the character should be very unfamiliar with everything outside the shanty town “village” she came from this includes technology, politics, and history film makers could have had fun with that.
Also I want sexy twi'leks in Starwars films!
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No.29278
>>29274
>>29275
>Hurrr you love TFA
No. I just know you are trying to backdoor in this faggy 'Rian did it on purpose to trigger you shit.'
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No.29279
>>29267
Idk I think the spell wore off in the months after TFA's release. TFA did not receive as much of a negative response generally compared to TLJ, however there was growing discontent. The reasons TFA avoided TLJ status is that it was the first Starwars movie released after ~10 years, the shills convinced a lot of the casuals & fans that a ripp off was needed to restart the saga & bring in nu-people, and lastly they claimed all TFA's problems would be fixed in TLJ which obviously didn't deliver on that promise. Moreover I think many people did not want to face the reality that Disney starwars ruined their hobby/story which they spent a lot of their life being a part of. They convinced themselves that the next one has Luke and it had had to be good because Luke only to see him as a sad broken wreck.
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No.29280
>>29265
>>29262
The Last Jedi's biggest flaws come from being a sequel to the dumpsterfire full oif mystery boxes that was The Farce Awakens. Rian is clearly a troll, and has some dumbass politics off his own, but The Last Jedi is still better because it completely sabotages Disney. Rian did us all a massive favor by raping Luke. If he actually kept Luke alive, and gave him a scene of fighting the Knight's of Ren with his green lightsaber, people would have liked the movie and ignored all the issues just like they ignored all the issues in The Farce Awakens.
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No.29282
>>29260
Blacks/minorities are used in Star wars as a battering ram beating the audience over the head with them in every scene where there are groups of people or aliens, in a scene few transitions (random extras), and they forced blacks into the role of Storm troopers as well for shock purposes. Notice they dindu nothing remotely interesting with the Finn character in any of the movies. The failed sacrifice scene in TLJ was a further FU because they taunted the audience with the possibility of getting rid of that awful character with a meaningful sacrifice (which in turn would have made the character better) only to have him survive the way he did.
>>29280
Rian posting.
TLJ was equally garbage compared to TFA. There is no difference except mystery box jew couldn't ruin Luke in TFA only because they needed him to get the audience to see the next film. In addition all disney star wars films are equally bad because they all have the same problems.
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No.29283
>>29265
Nah, Star Wars being an industry instead of a dictatorship is the worst thing to happen to the franchise. The bad news arrived in 2012 and the first taste of damage should have been TFA, but apparently most people are brain damaged and didn't get the message so luckily TLJ rectified that asap. Abrams, Kasdan etc whoever was on the TFA thinktank, are just as bad as Rian Johnson.
>>29280
>Rian is clearly a troll
I think he falls more in the category of "based retard".
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No.29284
>>29283
Yeah as soon as I heard disney bought Star war I knew it was over. TFA did indeed start to break up the fan base m8 as stated here:
>>29279
Rian is just a cog in their machine, he is a horrible director but it didn't matter who they got to make TLJ it was always going to end the way they had TLJ end. Luke's character assassinated, Luke dead,corporate toy commercial (porgs), chewy & falcon are now owned by Rey, Leia still alive despite being dead in real life, inconsistent nonsense main story, dead snoke, Kylo beaten again by marysue, Yoda, gender studies, silver surfer alive trooper, etc.
>>29280
The only thing that would make disney Star wars any worse is if they cast that ugly piece of plywood Emma Flopson whose career is basically over due to being a talent-less hack.
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No.29285
>>29284
>it was always going to end that way
You're not giving Rian enough credit. He pretty much had free reign to do whatever he wanted since they had no plan. I doubt they planned on killing off Luke from the get go. It wouldn't have made sense to have Hammill lose all that weight if they knew ahead of time he would have no meaningful scenes.
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No.29286
>>29280
>he did it all for us
I'm going to explain why you are wrong.
JJ is an unimaginative hack. He's a corporate mercenary who will work on anything. TFA is shit but it's empty and meaningless shit that has no real impact. Han died? Big deal, Harrison Ford hated the character and he almost died in RotJ. It's a shitty retread with awful characters, but no more memorable than the Robocop remake or Aliens vs Predator 2. It is a confusing waste of two hours and by having Rey defeat Kylo, it cut the nuts out of the entire trilogy. It was in a bad spot for Rian, and in 2017 I was actually sympathetic to him because of the bad position he was in. I knew the situation was impossible - everyone did.
But Rian's crime was worse. Rian was as progressive and shitty as JJ, but believed himself to be such a genius he could take Star Wars and make it his own, corrupt it into his own feminist agenda and prove he was greater than Lucas. Which is why he snarled at quotes from Lucas about the deaths of good characters, why it is ugly and shameful that he has a trilogy coming. What he did to Luke goes against everything Star Wars was about, a kind of hateful deconstruction of the Hero of a Thousand Faces to attempt to prove his own genius and have miserable faggots rate TLJ as 1 or 2 in their rankings of Star Wars. The canon story of Luke, now, is that he was a cowardly failure who died after using a hologram, not the sage creator of a new Jedi Order, but a bigger loser than the mighty Darth Vader. There is no greater sin in Star Wars than this. Terrible as TFA was, the OT still had value. TLJ rendered it meaningless.
I could go on about how every single decision in the movie was wrong and why, but let me explain why I am hostile to what you are intimating. Because it is establishing some kind of, 'eh, Rian is okay' nonsense which is wrong. Rian is not okay. He is the architect of all shit in Star Wars, an eager liberal cocksucker who is so arrogant he wants to take over Star Wars and make it Rian Johnson's Star Wars. JJ will go on as he always does, leaving a failure behind him, and a reboot of Star Wars will come, and it will be shit, and so it goes. But Rian is the eternal enemy, the Stoklasa-esque fanboy who writes a homosexual girlfriend for Leia into his moleskine notebook and declares it Star Wars, who will fight onward for his shitty and ugly version. Rian Johnson must be defeated, and be made to see he sucks.
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No.29287
>>29285
They never intended to let Luke live they wanted to obi-wan him. All the PR around Luke promoted this idea "how he would die". I remember asking myself why does he need to die?
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No.29288
>>29286
>Rian Johnson must be defeated, and be made to see he sucks.
I think you're misunderstanding what other anon is implying. He's not saying that Johnson has any kind of redeemable features, he's giving him a backhanded compliment by saying that Johnson being retarded in every way imaginable inadvertently woke normies up to what happened to Star Wars. In the boiling frog analogy, Johnson brought the gas dial from low to 6 million degrees right away instead of slowly turning it a little bit at a time.
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No.29289
TFA was the worthless foundation of occasionally-shiny sand Disney/JJ plopped down atop the prior movies. Stupid shit, bad shit, but at least they left the central figure (Luke) alone, and in the confusion left other stones standing. You can watch that while drunk. TLJ was the radioactive bunker-buster that slammed into the prior movies as a direct attack. They both suck, but one added injury to insult. You also can't even watch that drunk.
Still, it's fairly easy to separate out Star Wars from Disney Wars if you want to keep your blood pressure stable.
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No.29290
>>29288
>In the boiling frog analogy, Johnson brought the gas dial from low to 6 million degrees right away instead of slowly turning it a little bit at a time.
Excellent, someone with a brain.
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No.29292
>>29286
JJ did all of the same shit. You'll remember he was the guy too suggest Star Wars was too white and male in the first place. He just did it with enough subtlety that he got away with it, and that's the exact opposite of what we want. Preferably we want these movies to stop or get better at some point. JJ's subtly subversive version of Star Wars could have gone on for decades.
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No.29293
>>29286
>TFA is shit but it's empty and meaningless shit that has no real impact.
>what is fucking hyperspace travel
>what is Rey
>what is diregarding the EU
>what is destroying how the force works
Oh, I get it. You're one of those dumbasses that didn't realize Star Wars was dead the second Lucas sold it.
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No.29294
>>29292
You're not going to get through to him. He's someone who probably wants Disney to use Thrawn and Mara Jade and all the other EU characters because he's too low-IQ to realize that Disney is incapable of making decent Star Wars stuff. He's probably eagerly awaiting the Mandalorian and plans on shilling that shit here when it comes out.
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No.29295
>>29294
>The MAN-dalorian
Did they reveal that it was a woman under the armor all alone yet? Or show how stronk all the women Mandalorians are while at the same time make the men either complete garbage or some sort of minority because diversity.
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No.29296
>>29256
I don't trust any of them. Even though some of them have become somewhat more anti-Disney or anti-JJ they still hope IX can save the franchise regardless if it makes no sense. Any true fan would want to see Star Wars be put out of its misery than see it suffer under Disney. And its easy for these fuckers to take it up the ass since they only watch the movies while not seeing how horrible the tie-in media is. And worst is that some of them even still shill for EAfront.
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No.29297
>>29296
Also forgot to add that they still love the fuck out of TFA and its characters, especially Kylo Ren. Even if they've become anti-Rey, that really doesn't say much about them.
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No.29298
>>29295
No, the Mandolarian will be yet another beaner, and add to that the beaner "Cassian Andor" tv show that will come next. So in fact they're just doubling down. 2019 is an important year against the mouse. They'll try to get back to the normies as presented in the green text with Filoni Wars.
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No.29299
>>29294
I can already see Mara Jade as a blackwashed fugly girl with dyed red hair who may be a tranny. The mandalorians will be fagged up to the extreme once the new tv show comes out and the final season of Clone Wars gets made. Fuck, I'm scared to death with how Filoni will fuck up even further by revealing that Anakin can transform into a wolf or some shit. Or worse, saying that the final season is canon with both Disney and "Legends"
>>29296
>>29297
Majority of them are still cream themselves over Abrams despite that he was as pretentious as Rian and the biggest prequel hater. Rian is a faggot and a snob but at least he has originality (even though its awful), while JJ is an untalented copycat without a single original bone in his body and is disingenuous as fuck.
>>29298
I was told the Mandalorian was gonna be an old black guy.
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No.29300
>>29299
Are there any shoopfags here who can change the "internetz" in my image with "shekels", foreskins or "souls Disney has harvested"?
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No.29301
>>29296
Nor should you ever trust an ecelb!
Ethan is shill probably due to certain tribal connections. I think he wants to work on a disney Star wars comic "book". Geeks and Gamers was a shill, still is except for TLJ probably will about face on disney EP IX in the summer and fall of this year before its release. Bearded guy is a soy face….. Need I say more?
Doomcock seems to be the only one of them that is strongly anti-disney and anti-abrams I don’t think the rest of the High council crew like him very much they put up with him but on their shows Ethan always pushes Disney apologism when Doomcock starts talking about the problems with disney, abrams or the movies. Also it feels like he holds back and only responds to the other guys on the high council on other channels or his own he is a lot more proactive.
>>29298
Ah the other side… make fans beg you to put in men put in minority men.
>cassian andor
Brown boy band look fag, why did they replace Kyle Katarn with this?!
>>29299
>fagged up
Yup its called the MAN-dalorians its a masculine warrior society of course those gender study majors will fag it up big time.
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No.29302
>>29299
>I was told the Mandalorian was gonna be an old black guy
One of them is. There are multiple Mandalorians. None of them are White, tho, lol. The villain is still a White man, tho, lol
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No.29304
>>29301
>>29299
Disney already established Mandalorians as a gynocentric people.
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No.29305
>>29304
There you go can't have a male warrior society, you goys might get the wrong idea.
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No.29306
>>29301
Doomcock and E;R were the only ones were completely anti-Disney and anti-Abrams from the start. Especially Doomcock because he had experience with how JJ fucked over Star Trek. Mauler is also anti-Disney but he's a furfag and you can't really shill for someone like that and have people take him seriously. It'd be fine if he kept his weird furfag "pals" out of his videos but now all he ever does is put them in his shit. I won't be too surprised if he announces a "coming out" video.
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No.29307
>>29304
Oh for fuck's sake
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No.29308
>>29306
E;R is Pleb Leddit Media asslicker and Prequel hater, though. His videos aren't actually any good.
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No.29309
>>29304
>Mandalorians as a gynocentric people.
Fighting against a very masculine "terrorist" group who wants to get back to the old mandos tradition, and who ended up as allies of the evil Empire of course. Wonder why the jew meant by this.
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No.29310
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No.29311
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No.29312
>>29309
>Wonder why the jew meant by this.
Like a cat that constantly bothers you for food they want to be holocausted.
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No.29313
>>29294
>strawmanning
You're the faggot who loves Rian Johnson. I don't give a shit about the mandalorian or anything else coming out. I won't watch it. I want Rian to be made to fail. He was the worst.
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No.29314
>>29293
It's nothing compared to fucking over Luke in TLJ. Admit you like it, faggot.
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No.29315
>>29313
If you actually think Rian Johnson is the worst person involved with nu-Star Wars, then I don't know what to say. If JJ Abrams is an evil genius, Rian Johnson is his blundering sidekick.
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No.29316
>>29314
Did the milking scene hurt your feelings that bad?
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No.29317
>Pleb Leddit Media
Didn't he poke fun at them for their review of TFA?
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No.29318
>>29317
Fuck me. The post was meant for >>29308
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No.29319
>>29315
The Story group, the Lucasarts president and shitty directors didn't help but this stinks all the way to the top Bob Iger is ultimately responsible for Star wars being in the shape that it is.
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No.29320
>>29315
He is. JJ is like a locust. He'll move on to ruin another franchise. Star Trek will recover in some shape or form. Rian is the heir of all Star Wars stories. He's getting a trilogy. He's the long term Disney plan.
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No.29322
>>29320
They are making Michel Bay look good.
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No.29323
>>29316
Just post your rankings with TLJ near the top and TFA at the bottom.
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No.29324
>>29323
Rankings are:
Solo>Rogue One>TLJ>TFA
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No.29325
>>29320
His trilogy was moved to the disney streaming service, but now its been canned.
>>29317
>>29318
No. That was Mauler. I don't know what he thinks of RLM.
>>29320
So JJ is like a corrupter of nature while Rian is his bumbling Egor? Fitting.
>>29322
I never thought I'd see the day that anyone would top that shithead.
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No.29326
>>29325
Hidalgo said that isn't true on twitter. Rian's trilogy is not canned, and it isn't streaming either.
>>29324
I would say
Holiday Special>RO>Solo=TFA>>>>>>>TLJ
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No.29329
>>29326
I think you're too emotionally involved to review these movies objectively.
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No.29330
>>29314
People have been telling you there's no hierarchy to be made between TFA and TLJ (or at least not like moderate anti-disney normies do it), but you keep being stupid and childish. Just go back sucking Sciver's cock, you're dumbing this conversation down with your low good goy burger IQ. Or try to read over and understand this post >>29288
If the only argument is to say: "At least TFA is so bad it's good DUDE ALCOHOL LMAO", well yes, you're very dumb.
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No.29332
>>29326
>>29329
TFA and TLJ are complete shit though.
>>29326
Hidalgo is an underhanded faggot who will say anything to get ahead. He's practically The Mary Sue's (a feminist news site) lapdog.
http://archive.is/v0Tab
This article says Rian's movies have been moved to the streaming service. But more recent articles say that the streaming service will no longer have movies.
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No.29334
>>29330
People have been saying there IS a hierarchy, that Rian was just a goofoff and TFA is the real problem. All I am saying is TLJ is the worst, which is generated assmad responses from people who want to claim that that is something only an eceleb would believe
>e-celeb reference
You're all such a bunch of contrarian fucks that you're trying to pretend you hated Star Wars before it was cool and therefore TFA was worse. I hated TFA. Read what the fuck I wrote >>29286
>>29329
Nobody on a thracian horse racing board talking about a pop culture science fantasy series is detached and emotionless. You are here. You are already too invested in this as well.
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No.29335
>>29334
I'm invested, but I'm not frothing at the mouth with rage at Rian Johnson, and anyone who so much as suggests TLJ is only the second worst Star Wars film.
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No.29336
>>29334
>TLJ is the worst
And it's not, because that would mean TFA was somehow better, just like those e-celebs say. As a matter of fact, from a very detached POV, we could even say TLJ was """"better"""" simply because it had more personality (Johnson retarded SJW personality of course) contrary to that pure (((corporate))) soulless product that was TFA.
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No.29337
>>29336
That's an argument the rian poster often uses. "It's kino because it was different."
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No.29338
>>29337
They're partly right, except for the kino part, and most of the "different" part.
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No.29339
>>29337
The fact that there was a teasing of new ideas is one of the things that makes me hate TLJ a little less. Of course those ideas basically amount to nothing.
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No.29340
>>29336
>>29337
>>29338
Essentially. TLJ is the biggest dumpsterfire of all time and its original in that shitty regard. Meanwhile JJ's movie is an unoriginal, formulaic and soulless product and a shit movie that's disguising itself as a good movie by putting on a cloak of familiarity and deception and that just makes it worse than TLJ in that regard. Its a bad movie pretending its good and with the capacity to trick others to also believe its deception.
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No.29341
>>29340
Well that is the thing how is it different than what was seen before?
Luke is (obi-wan/Yoda) on his own planet like Yoda doesn't want to train Rey like Yoda did not want to train Luke, dead friend in this case Yoda shows up to intercede on the behalf of the MC, Empire shown cornering Rebels, several main characters thrown in prison ( Han, Chewy, rose, finn) white planet with speeders, casino/cloud city like planet, imperial thrown room, thrown room fight, etc… too much stuff TLJ is every star wars OT in a blender just like TFA the only difference is that TLJ was very hostile to the OT characters and had modern propaganda in them just like TFA.
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No.29342
>>29340
This. Johson is a leftist retard, so he really believes in his retardation, he really thinks that's a good thing to destroy one the last western heroes because western male society is oppressive etc. While JJ is far more cynical in its mockery of something beloved, but with some african and a feminist at the top, and more nazis.
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No.29343
>>29342
abrams is a jew so obviously he will dump in revenge propaganda.
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No.29344
>>29341
They tease this idea that the real problem is the inability of the older generation to let their war die, as opposed to any one side just being bad, and I kind of like that. Feels topical in an age where people are still mentally fighting world war 2, 80 years after that war was supposed to have ended.
Of course this idea was executed poorly, and tossed aside at the end so the righteous rebels could fight the evil empire again, but there's the beginnings of something that could have been interesting there.
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No.29345
>>29306
>Mauler is also anti-Disney but he's a furfag
Teeechnically, he's just a furfag sympathizer.
>>29308
E;R outwardly says he's not a fan of Star Wars and doesn't pretend to be, which makes his prequel hate less egregious (but still gay). His opinions and analysis vary significantly from RLM so I don't see how he's an RLM asslicker.
>>29313
Point for me to where someone said "I love Rian Johnson."
>>29334
You can't really put a hierarchy on the disney films because each one is shit in a new and radically different way. TFA was sterile and seemed like it came from a laboratory, with JewJew mechanically inserting elements that the focus groups said would maximize nostalgia feedback from the audience. TLJ is bad for almost the opposite reason, it's the result of one incredibly smarmy motherfucker being let loose like a bull in a china shop, intentionally shitting on fan expectations, canon, and basic causality in the name of "subversion," because he thinks being an incoherent retard is a prerequisite for high art. Soylo has a plot that's almost as bad, with more twists than a Gordian knot, but it's not because of a lefty retard being "subversive," it's just talentless people trying to write a story and failing horribly because they have no talent. RO is shit because it got handed off to other talent partway through and ends up getting pulled in several directions at once, and the end result is a horribly-paced, schizophrenic mess. It's almost like nu-wars is the product of someone doing a case study into just how many different ways a movie can be bad.
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No.29347
>>29344
The "training sequence" with weird inserts of the nature all around was quiet different too for a SW movie, as well as that monthy python kind of humor with the fucking iron. And Rey actually joining Kylo should have been the real ending, but no, "subversive" Johnson cucked out (or was told to) and furthermore we get one more 30min long ending on not-Hoth, destroying the already terrible pacing.
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No.29348
>>29345
>Teeechnically, he's just a furfag sympathizer.
Fair enough. But that alone will make it hard for anyone, especially normalfags to take him seriously. Which is why I only share his shorter videos without the furry guys.
>>29345
>E;R outwardly says he's not a fan of Star Wars and doesn't pretend to be, which makes his prequel hate less egregious (but still gay). His opinions and analysis vary significantly from RLM so I don't see how he's an RLM asslicker.
Exactly.
>>29345
>Point for me to where someone said "I love Rian Johnson."
Just ignore him.
>>29342
I think cynicism really fits with JJ but he hides it under a mask of
<lol I'm so funny and trendy! Ain't that right fellow kids?
>>29341
Fair point. I guess they're both unoriginal hacks, the difference is JJ somehow managed to trick people into thinking he wasn't which is what boggles me.
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No.29350
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No.29351
>>29347
> that monthy python kind of humor with the fucking iron
Wait what?
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No.29352
>>29348
>JJ somehow managed to trick people into thinking he wasn't which is what boggles me.
The thing about JJ is that he's not actually a retard. He's been doing this shit for years, and as a result has a pretty good handle on what emotional triggers work on Joe Normie. Even if Joe Normie will eventually catch on, by the time he does he's already watched the film and bought the DVD, and it's too late to negatively impact sales. He did the same thing with Star Trek, it got great ratings from normalfags and even actual trekkies the first time around, despite being objectively shit. I have to assume he did something similar with Mission Impossible, but I don't follow that franchise so I wouldn't know.
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No.29353
>>29351
I mean post-modern humor/fourth wall breaking humor.
>Traditional SW shot of a ship landing…
>it's actually just an iron
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No.29354
>>29353
Self-parody basically
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No.29355
>>29352
>I have to assume he did something similar with Mission Impossible, but I don't follow that franchise so I wouldn't know.
I only saw the first one. I really dont know either. Aside from ST and TFA, the only other JJ film I watched was 10 Cloverfield Lane and it was shit yet its supposed to tie in to Cloverfield for some reason.
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No.29356
>>29353
I didn't even remember this until now. Why did he do this? What was the point of it?
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No.29357
>>29356
Why else? A cheap laugh in a movie filled to bursting with them. And that was one of the few actually funny ones.
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No.29360
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>29356
It's an ""homage"" (see: ripoff) of Hardware Wars. Basically the same reasoning that was behind JJ stealing Revan's look then saying he's actually a fan of KOTOR.
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No.29361
>>29314
I absolutely love that Disney's Jake SKywalker was promptly shamed then killed off. Otherwise Disney would still be holding Mark Hammill on a leash.
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No.29363
>>29322
>>29325
Excuse me? Michael Bay is a powerful auteur and a total chad, JJ is just your run-of-the-mill lowtest kike with zero ambition. The two guys shouldn't even be mentioned in the same sentence
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No.29364
>>29363
Have you even fucking seen his Transformers movies? Its his fucktardery that has influenced countless films and proven that they don't have to be good. They just need a lot of explosions, flashing lights, pointlessly large casts of diverse humans and a war scene and you can make billions easily because the Chinese eat that shit up no matter how bad it is. Rogue One was Disney's attempt to go one step further at copying the Transformers formula.
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No.29365
>>29364
His movies are beyond shit, but Bay at least seems to be a better human being than JJ. Plus its not a crime to take advantage of people as fucked up as the chinese. And its because Disney copied his ideology of only pandering to China that SW is basically now banned over there, so that's a bonus.
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No.29366
>>29365
Fair enough. With him, what we see is what we get unlike with the two-faced Abrams.
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No.29375
>>29364
Michael Bay is a talentless hack, but I have to give him a little bit of credit for being up-front about that. He doesn't pretend to be a great artist like Johnson, he hasn't cultivated an aura of "the master rebooter"around him like Abrams has, he is very transparently, very honestly, in it for the money and creates big explosions because tasteless normies will watch that.
Side note, what the fuck is this trend for referring to Johnson as "Rian?" He's not your fucking friend, you're not close to him, you're not on first-name terms with the little shit, why are you talking as if you are?
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No.29377
>>29375
George is my friend, tho, tbh.
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No.29378
>>29375
Less letters? I just don't refer to him at all anymore beyond the stench he created.
Aren't you usually calmer than this?
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No.29381
>>29298
> They'll try to get back to the normies as presented in the green text with Filoni Wars.
Could you hook me up with this greentext?
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No.29389
>>29378
This first-name thing triggers my autism tbh, especially when there's a double standard implied. Back in election season, it was Trump and Hillary, here it's Johnson and just about every other director out there. It's not a big thing overall but it seems like I'm the only one who notices this, which compounds a somewhat minor grievance into a bigger one.
I should also add that this James Watson debacle has me the slightest bit cheesed off as well, which may be bleeding off into my posts.
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No.29396
>>29389
It just depends what's faster to type, or what rolls off the tongue easier.
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No.29397
>>29389
And you say Hillary because everyone thinks of Bill when you say Clinton.
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No.29399
>>29375
>what the fuck is this trend for referring to Johnson as "Rian?
I don't respect him enough to call him by his last name.Therefore since he does not have my respect I used the familiar, first name as if he is a little kid.
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No.29400
>>29389
Speaking of names how come certain jews try to force people to know them by their full first middle and last names?
Ruth Ginsburg, Debbie Schultz, Sarah Parker, etc.
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No.29401
>>29400
I thought that was a pompous people problem, not a jewish problem.
Anyway, where the hell were we?
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No.29403
>>29401
Possibly, just noticed it in prominent jews and I will not participate in said naming ritual.
>where are we
/sw/ , earth, or possibly hell who really knows?
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No.29405
Nice way to derail a thread into nothingness fags.
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No.29406
>>29405
In that case what about the Worldclassbullshitters guy? He seems pretty anti-disney however he is friends with Ethan the disney apologist and the Geeks and Gamers who loves TFA and has/had TFA merch (Kylo mask I think) visible on his videos.
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No.29407
>>29406
The first videos in the toy shops were ok but I just can't listen to the lives of these niggers, it's too long and they keep laughing for nothing.
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No.29408
>>29407
Yeah they get annoying pretty quick, also I like the Toys R us music they play wish I knew what it was called.
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No.29413
>>29406
They were anti Disney from the start and hated JJ Abrams which I appreciate it. But I just can't enjoy their content anymore because every video they make is just too damn long. Before they would always make only 5 or 10 minute videos at most but now every single video they keep making lasts over two or three hours or more. And it's mostly them talking to each other and laughing about stuff that only makes sense to them as friends, but us viewers are kind of left in the dark which just makes it hard to follow. If they went back to the three or five minute format and stick with only one guy at a time per video that would greatly improve their content. But so far all they want to keep doing are these podcasts which is a shame since I really liked their content before the podcast became more prominent.
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No.29414
>>29399
Pretty much why I dress both of them by their first names or nicknames. I despise both of them but in high-class Social Circles and in some cultures it's seen as offensive to address someone by their first name or a nickname.
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No.29425
>>29256
I agree, the slasher scene was overdone and edgy 5 year old shit, but middle dude is a lowcow who has honorary brianna wu status.
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No.29441
>>29375
To be fair, Bay is actually capable of making a decent movie if he wants to. Around 2015 or something he made a film about the 2012 Benghazi attack which was pretty good. He does the Transformers crap only because it's a steady paycheck, and I can somewhat respect that, especially since he doesn't have any delusions of grandeur or something.
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No.29443
>>29257
>I'll take a well made rehash over a complete crap fest of new content any day of the week
Notice how they call tlj 'original'
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No.29479
>>29286
>corrupt it into his own feminist agenda instead of jj's
Yea! How DARE he! the nerve of this goy…
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No.29493
>>29441
Exactly. I seem to recall him saying at one point, "I make movies for teenage boys, where's the crime in that?", or something to that effect. I don't like his movies but I have no reason to get mad at the man himself.
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No.29527
>>29443
yeah, TLJ is about as a original as TFA complete with not hoth, not super star destroyer, not the emperor, not the throne room, not cloudy city, not I am your father part ( rey's parents are revealed to be no one), etc. The only real difference is that rian put in more your mom jokes and flicked off the audience slightly more than abrams.
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No.29534
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>29527
Case in point, enjoy.
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No.29576
>>29534
I saw that last year ty for posting this
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No.29577
>>29534
TLJ is Return of the Jedi for Millennials….. nicely put
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No.29582
>>29577
Return of the Jedi is the Return of the Jedi for millenials. We saw it on VHS before the prequels + the rerelease
not to mention.. Return of the Jedi is actually good.
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No.29587
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No.29590
>>29587
Geeks and Gamers doesn't exactly court the smart crowd, an effect amplified on their twitter.
Similar deal for WCB, who just seems like a dummy.
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No.29591
>>29587
>splitting "very average" and "meh" into two catagories
Should actually be a 33% score for "average",
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No.29593
>>29582
RotJ Special Edition is good. The original cut completely botches the landing and the capstone of the trilogy with that terrible piece of music at the end. Totally undercuts all of the drama.
Yes, Jedi Rocks was worth it.
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No.29594
>>29587
Normalfags are easy to please. No surprise there. He's also a major TFA shill and people who loved that loved RO so his fans will lean towards in favor of both. This kinda shit has backfired for Star Wars Theory. The guy foolishly tried to be neutral and pander to all sides and in the end the Disneyfags were more than happy to stab him in the back when his film came out and even gladly announced they would unsubscribe from him. And they're still giving him beef over his last video and telling him to stop trying to fight Disney or else they will unsubscribe. This is what happens when you try to be a fencesitting faggot, especially to Disney types who will gladly stab you in the back for the Mouse.
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No.29596
>>29593
>Not liking Ewok music
>Disliking it to the point he'd rather have fucking Jedi Rocks
>Taking the special edition cock up the ass over a small music quibble
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No.29598
>>29596
It's the last scene of the trilogy, and it makes the whole thing seem farcical. I honestly think it's the entire reason people don't like RotJ or the Ewoks very much. When you walk out of the cinema with that as the last thing stuck in your mind, how else are you going to take it?
Jedi Rocks is fun, and doesn't change the scene as much as people think it does.
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No.29603
>>29594
>And they're still giving him beef over his last video and telling him to stop trying to fight Disney or else they will unsubscribe.
lol wut? it's a fucking minority, the vast majority is now shitting on Disney and calling for a boycott, idiot.
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No.29615
>>29582
Watch the video he calls it that because it ripped off so many elements from of RotJ.
>>29594
Classic case of splitting the vote. The poll should have had 2 options great or trash possibly a 3rd for mediocre/meh that's it.
>29608
Go derail elsewhere.
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No.29624
>>29598
the perfect ROTJ for me would be the 2011 SE ending but with the original jabbas palace music
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No.29639
>>29593
>The original cut completely botches the landing and the capstone of the trilogy with that terrible piece of music at the end.
How can people actually believe this? I say this as someone who grew up with the special editions and only saw the original cuts as an adult. The original ending is objectively superior. I love George, and I love the Prequels, but the special editions were a mistake. Once a film has been released, you shouldn't change it.
The original ending to Return of the Jedi is perfect because of how it contrasts with the epic nature of the Galatic Civil War, it's simple, it's subdued, it's peaceful. It doesn't need to be galaxy spanning, and the Ewok music is charming.
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No.29692
>>29639
This. It's a lot more personal and emotional than the more formal ANH ending, and better reflects the themes of RoTJ IMO.
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No.29694
>>29639
exactly, the original scene and music are superior. changing Vader's force ghost was another mistake.
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No.29696
>>29639
>and the Ewok music is charming.
There is nothing I hate more than Ewoks and their disgusting noise. I remember the horrible pain in my ears and in my brain when I watched this film. Every single scene with Ewoks was a terrible experience. The music is not even remotely charming, as nothing about them is. So I can only assume everything you've said must be wrong as well.
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No.29699
>>29696
Hating Ewoks is a meme.
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No.29700
>>29257
>right down to Rey being just as much of a Mary Sue as Luke
But he wasn’t a Gary Stu, besides knowing how to fly which he was actually given a reason for. Only thing I could say Luke did in ANH that was Gary Stuish was using the force so easily with no training, but it’s only really established in the EU that using the force takes a long time and the films never mention that.
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No.29701
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No.29705
>>29700
the shill meme of Luke being a Gary Stu has been thoroughly debunked. he faces numerous setbacks and obstacles on his journey to greatness.
also I have to correct you, Luke does get initial training in the Force in ANH, ie the scene with the training droid on board the Millennium Falcon. even then, he makes mistakes before he gets the hang of it.
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No.29714
>>29639
I definitely prefer the modesty of the original ending. The way I see it, it built the early EU by showing that Endor was just one battle and that we don't know what's happening to the rest of the empire. The special edition ending frames the Death Star II's destruction as being common knowledge as far as Coruscant and sparks spontaneous planet-wide uprisings against the empire. This is what the Disney canon is based off where the empire capitulates within months and is followed by 40 years of jack shit and [insert television spinoff here] because there's nothing left for the rebels to do.
On principle I have to reject any story-based special edition changes because all EU material pre-1997 was written from the same understanding of the movies and the events that happen within them. I don't believe the Galactic Civil War would have been written as hard-fought after Endor if the uprisings and celebrations across the galaxy had been in Return of the Jedi back in 1983. There might not have been an EU at all because everyone would have assumed the rebels had already freed the galaxy in one blow like Disney's writers do now.
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No.29716
>>29705
His use of the force at the end of ANH always seemed like he barley got the missiles into the exhaust port and it built on the fact that Luke was a very good shot given that he used to shoot at womp rats in his T-16 which were not much bigger than 2 meters. The force only helped him win and it was a long shot at that hence the tension of that scene.
The marysue in the nu-series never has even a situation were she might possibility fail or has the force enhance a skill she already has slightly rather she is completely skilled at everything and all powerful.
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No.29756
>>29714
>Coruscant and sparks spontaneous planet-wide uprisings against the empire.
In the EU not reboot verse, order was swiftly restored on planets like Coruscant though.. Just because the emperor was dead didn't mean it was over.
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No.29775
>>29716
let's not forget, Vader would've shot him down if Han Solo hadn't intervened in the last minute.
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No.29798
>>29716
We also see Red Leader almost nail the shot; it was far from a one-in-a-million thing.
Also, I've got to give mad respect to Keyan Farlander for surviving the Battle of Yavin in a fucking Y-Wing.
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No.29822
>>29700
>it’s only really established in the EU that using the force takes a long time and the films never mention that.
no, the films very much show that off, you're just buying into the newfan thought process.
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No.29824
>>29256
i don't get why they liked Force Awakens. It was such a bad rehash
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No.29840
>>29756
>In the EU not reboot verse, order was swiftly restored on planets like Coruscant though.
Yeah I know, that's called a retcon. Lucasfilm had to crowbar the uprisings to fit the established continuity, and that continuity wouldn't have existed if it wasn't for the original ending.
If the special edition ending had been in the original film in 1983 then there would never have been a Thrawn trilogy. Everyone would assume the uprisings were successful because Return of the Jedi is supposed to have a happy ending, just as they do now. It's true that you could have subverted that ending with a novel but the power of audience assumption would be too strong to accept that in my opinion.
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No.29841
>>29840
Damn, that's a beautiful picture.
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No.29842
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No.29878
>>29840
The Rebels take control of Coruscant off screen, and chase the remnants off the Empire into a smaller territory. presumably uprisings always took place.
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No.29879
>>29639
>Once a film has been released, you shouldn't change it.
Someone tell Ridley Scott.
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No.29883
>>29824
Marketing. They're cattle.
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No.30016
>>29756
>Just because the emperor was dead didn't mean it was over
it wasn't just the emperor, it was the entire chain of command. palps, vader, and any high-ranking moffs or admirals that were on-board the SSD like piett. this is why the remnant happened, the empire became a council of admirals rather than have single leadership to prevent another endor, as well as all the idiots trying to claim the title of emperor with their own splinter factions among the imperial forces.
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No.30055
>>30016
>idiots
Coruscant quelled the revolt quickly because it was under command of Sate Pestage and Ysard. You can't call those 2 idiots.
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No.30422
>>30016
exactly. Imperial government was top-heavy, so they were essentially decapitated at the Battle of Endor. of course the Empire would regroup as the Remnant, but not before a period of disorder and widespread revolts. some of these would be put down, but it's safe to say that the Rebellion would gain lots of ground in the immediate aftermath.
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No.30451
>>29842
>even Star Wars niggers shoot their blasters sideways
Top kek
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No.30452
>>30055
coruscant is the capital of the empire, that's understandable that they would have higher security and any runner-ups to claim the throne, as sheev kept his friends close and treated them well.
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No.30456
>>29256
>Rogue One is the only good Disney Wars
It is. It's the same fanfic stuff the rest is, but doesn't go against source material and actually expands on the world as a whole. Unlike everything else Disney has done.
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No.30480
>>29257
>right down to Rey being just as much of a Mary Sue as Luke
Luke got his ass handed to him at least twice in New Hope before he managed to destroy the Deah Star.
He trained in Empire Strikes back and Vader still kicked his ass
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No.30485
>>30480
It was made quite clear Luke would be blasted into space dust if Han hadn't rescued him.
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No.33533
>>30456
If by 'expand' you mean something like pic related then, yea.
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No.33595
>>30412
>Alderaan
Of course you would agree with him.
Ewoks are for suicide bombings.
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No.33834
Ugly jewess from Geeks&Gamers defends abortion (of course). Fucking dumb Jeremy damage controlling now because it got mass downvoted and he's losing subs. lmao
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No.33835
>>33834
jewess? moar like a soyboy.
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No.33838
>>33835
Naw, she’s a jew. The slight drop to her nose, thin upper lip, and slight v shape to her smile are all giveaways.
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No.33840
>>33834
This is why youtubers are a mistake and why you should always do background checks on your co-hosts.
>>33835
Its the opposite. A turbo dyke on testosterone supplements.
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No.33843
>>33840
It's coming from the opposite direction, but they meet in the middle with about the same amount of testosterone.
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No.33846
>>29256
I've hear "TFA was great" a lot, why? That film was dogshit.
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No.33868
>>33846
because it mirrors ANH so much and ANH is good, so naturally the normalfag will ignore the remake cues and pretend it's a worthwhile chapter in succession.
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No.33872
>>33846
It's Disney movie. They have a following of sheep who gleefully worship the ground the mouse walks on. Also because they won over the OT purists who deride the Prequels and anything previously outside the OT with the whole practical effect and puppet spiel.
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No.33873
>>33872
>Also because they won over the OT purists who deride the Prequels and anything previously outside the OT with the whole practical effect and puppet spiel.
hardly, the ot purists are still calling them shit, they just run with the "not as bad as the prequels" meme. also the only puppet was yoda, every other alien has been cgi or chewie for the most part.
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No.33874
>>33834
It made no secret of being a jew. Its opinions, behavior, and mannerisms are cancer. Nobody can stand it to the point where the rest of the hosts on the high council have to half apologize to the audience afterwards by admitting that she has an abrasive personality that is not for everyone. Yet they still continue to try to promote it. I wonder if this jewess actually has some dirt on some of these ecelbs or has more power over Geeks+Gamers than Jeremy?
The only thing the jew has right is that TLJ sucks and it is only doing that for shekels. It also promotes sjw degeneracy and opposes the SW stuff only because "they didn't do it right", implying there is a correct way to table man-hating feminism, fags, minority-fetishism,etc.
>>33872
THIS
TFA was garbage that was an inferior ripoff of ANH this time without characters or a purpose but the disney fag loved it because disney and hype. Disney fans are soulless consumers.
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