No.19285 [Last50 Posts]
>tfw we finally drove Rian Johnson and Disney insane
Damn those goobergators
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No.19286
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No.19287
>not liking your shitty movie is harassment
This timeline needs to be thrown in a trash compactor.
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No.19288
The good old Cisbusters defense.
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No.19289
>>19288
Now I wish he were directing episode 9. The dumpster fire would turn into an all out eruption.
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No.19292
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No.19293
>>19289
Same. It's rather surprising Kennedy has not out a muzzle in everyone to try and stem the bleeding.
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No.19294
Hey guys, if we claim the people who didn't like the film were sexist/racists white supremacists we'll make a shitload of money! 50th times the charm!
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No.19295
Since Rian is bringing up Gamergate, I wish there was a way to meme Jihadi Jarbo into the SW controversy, after all he's the most redpilled motherfucker on the internet, he should be the face of the SW Toxic Fanbase.
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No.19298
>>19294
The first time they used that argument was when normalfags complained about Finn being a stormtrooper because they thought all troopers were still Jango clones in the OT, naturally Disney, JJ and BOYega got assmad about it and called everyone racists. They keep doing it now and its only backfiring horribly.
>>19295
I prefer Doomcock since he better personifies angry scifi fans while outright crushing bluepills to boot.
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No.19299
>>19285
I wonder how long they'll be using GG as a boogeyman before even their own side calls them on their shit.
how soon until we need to make an ayy version of viv or have her dressed like a SW character?
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No.19300
>>19299
The more this turns into GamerGate, the more likely it will end as a giant masturbation session for the libertarian left that amounts to nothing.
Ethan and Jeremy are both acting like faggots lately. The old adage is true: e-celebs are cancer.
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No.19301
>>19299
We need a proper drawfag for that, and so far we only have shoopfags.
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No.19302
>>19298
To be fair, /pol/ was trolling them at the time.
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No.19303
>>19300
Jeremy really went full fag lately with his "Disney dindunuffin" bullshit. People are too obsessed with trying to preserve the image of Disney as a "loveable" maker of kids cartoons because they made adaptations of fucking fairy tales with no original ideas of their own. As for Ethan, all I know is that he adopted a similar mindset to a degree but is less defensive of Disney overall. Most faggiest thing I've seen him do was tell people to not boycott films while naively thinking that criticism is enough to send a message while failing to realize that voting with your wallet is the best way to send a message. That's how media and other organizations have been influenced with political biases thanks to massive investments and donations from powerful Hollywood types like Spielberg and Groening.
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No.19304
>>19302
/pol/ was a minor presence. The majority of the responses were from people asking why Finn wasn't a Jango clone and most of the replies Disney reps made were to such posts. Even JJ made a tweet about it and they gladly embraced such retorts and even the trolling for the sake of using it as free publicity.
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No.19306
>>19303
Ethan asked for all ‘non white male fans’ to send him videos so he could do a #NotYourShield video to try to silence one of his #comicsgate detractors.
Jeremy went off about how we can’t say everything is SJW infested, so naturally all his pozzed liberal fans started pissing about ‘anti-SJWs.’
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No.19307
>>19303
>Most faggiest thing I've seen him do was tell people to not boycott films while naively thinking that criticism is enough to send a message while failing to realize that voting with your wallet is the best way to send a message.
That's because he has an Indiegogo for his comic book, he can't tell people to not give money for something.
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No.19309
>>19301
I think one of the drawfags from /v/ might know about /sw/, and he did draw this.
>>19300
>libertarian
>left
Economically at least, that's kind of a massive meme.
>The more this turns into GamerGate, the more likely it will end as a giant masturbation session that amounts to nothing.
That's likely to be the case, but at least with GG and the other -gates- people got frustrated enough to start making their own games/comics legally. With a copyrighted franchise, that's considerably more challenging to do without getting sued.
>>19303
That mindset is pretty retarded. If they think Disney isn't on board or approving the actions of their subsidiaries, they're very naive. I can't imagine Disney would just sit there and let Lucasfilm do what they're doing unless they approved of what was going on.
>>19306
I remember a few people posting stuff about how niggers make bad stormtroopers or something, but that was some pretty blatant shitposting.
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No.19310
<Star Wars is dead (but it's not our fault)
The funny thing is that the reaction to Star Wars doesn't need a movement with a name like GamerGate. There were and still are gamers perfectly happy to play the kind of offal churned out by the modern industry at $60.00+ per title. The response to Soy Wars, on the other hand, has been resounding from all sectors of the audience from the most casual normies who only care about TESB to the neckbeards who filled garages with action fingers they never intended to take out of the box. Little kids don't like the sequel characters. Lore nerds aren't interested in most expanded universe spin-off media. The video games are tainted by the cursed mark of EA.
GamerGate only got gayer as time went on, but this situation doesn't even require that. Episode IX will truly involve the moment of truth.
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No.19311
>>19306
So Ethan is using his own fans as a shield for his own problems? That's low. I'm not surprised about Jeremy though, he was starting to lean in on that shit when more of his fans started saying how awful Ahsoka had become in Rebels and he has massive boner for her. Fucking Ahsokafags
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No.19312
>>19309
Oh shit, what thread was this? We need more. Do you think you could ask the drawfags there to do an SW-based Vivian or our own /sw/-tan? Or should we just ask them to do an updated Grieve-tan and make her our board's mascot?
Is this alright Bordo?
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No.19313
>>19309
>I can't imagine Disney would just sit there and let Lucasfilm do what they're doing unless they approved of what was going on.
They didn't. I recall Kennedy and Rian bragging how they showed TLJ to the Disney execs and they loved it. Disney is just as shitty, if not more so, than Kennedy and Rian.
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No.19314
>>19310
>Episode IX will truly involve the moment of truth.
This. 2019 will be the year everything goes down. Even if IX does make some money, it still needs to meet expectations, and if it doesn't, we can safely say a rebellion is on they way, and not a faggy one like that gayass safetypin bullcrap. More like an imperial resurgence.
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No.19316
>>19311
>So Ethan is using his own fans as a shield for his own problems? That's low.
What’s annoying is his “I don’t need white guys” attitude for his #nys video. It’s exactly the fucking attitude that is the problem but I think he’s just trying to silence his SJW critics.
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No.19317
>>19316
I can understand that since I hear the SJWs are trying their damndest to shut his inoffensive comic down, but excluding parts of his fanbase like that is only going to hurt him in the long run. Oh well, such is the case with e-celebs sadly. Still, I want to hold out hope for that guy with the alien helmet mentioned in another thread. The way he talks makes it sound like he browses /sw/, /strek/ and /tg/.
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No.19318
>>19313
I think everybody involved in this at a high level legitimately thought Rian’s movie was a masterpiece because they don’t really understand Star Wars at all and had been told Rian was a ‘true fan.’
The way they were going on about it in the early going they clearly thought it was going to redefine Star Wars and flip the genre on its head. Now they are scrambling to understand how they got it so wrong and I think they are still in denial about everything.
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No.19320
>>19317
No one is /ourguy/, except maybe James Woods or Mel Gibson.
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No.19321
>>19318
This basically. Only downside is people online praising Bog Iger for wanting to fire Kennedy. That balding bastard was the cause of all this and supported her fully for the sake of his political career. His fellow execs approved a raise for him for no reason to boot.
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No.19322
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>>19320
Never said he was /ourguy/, just said there might be a chance. Unlike Ethan and Jeremy and those other fags, he isn't afraid to say shit like it is while pulling no punches on marxism and the ideologies that got SW in this mess in the first place.
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No.19323
>>19313
They liked the movie when it was shown to them. Do they like how the movie has been received and how much profit it's generated?
Rian and Kennedy might be willing to flush money down the toilet to make a statement but everyone in charge at Disney?
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No.19324
>>19321
>praising Bob Iger
I've seen that shit too and it only helps to make me lose hope in man.
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No.19326
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No.19333
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No.19334
>>19322
That video is fucking retarded.
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No.19335
>>19334
I thought the same thing at first, but he begins making solid points as it goes on.
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No.19337
YODA, LANDO AND LUKE'S GHOST MIGHT BE IN IX FUUUUUUUUCK
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No.19338
>>19321
I honestly don’t know how much of the ‘Iger wants her gone’ stuff is true. I think it’s highly possible it’s just people leading on e-celebs with bs stories. The only quasi-official thing was ABC citing unnamed sources saying the standalone movies were still on track. Kennedy is staying out of sight.
Even if Kennedy were in place, if Iger wanted a change he’d tell all Lucasfilm employees to go media silent instead of shitting on fans on twitter like Rian or his webmaster. They’re still going, which leads me to believe there have been no changes.
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No.19339
>>19335
No. It’s nonsensical.
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No.19340
>>19311
>Ethan & Jeremy
Both adhere to the boomer argument:"democrats is the real racists" which is a recipe for failure. They even promote controlled opposition neo-cons Ben Shaprio. Jeremy is a wishy washy fag who admittedly loves disney TFA and TLJ although the loss of views after TLJ made him change his mind. Geeks and gamers channel is full of sjw cancer especially that loud lesbian jewish woman . Ethan jumped on the anti-soywars bandwagon to promote and sell his comic book both have tried to steer criticism away from Disney, have tried to undermine the boycott, and have bought thousands of dollars of soywars/disney products and promoted them, example Rose Tico, the land speeder powerwheel, the new tie fighter (which ethan loves), RC BB8, thousands of dolls, etc.
E-celebs are trash never trust them.
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No.19341
>>19340
You forgot Jeremy's room being full of nu-Wars merch plus a Kylo Ren mask.
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No.19342
>>19340
got cut off.
Also anyone that believes Bob Iger is somehow against the politics of LucasArts or that Mr Iger did not personally oversee and approve of the projects at Lucas arts is naive beyond all rational reasoning. Anyone that promotes this idea are professional shills.
>>19341
That too.
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No.19345
>>19342
Disney owns a lot of media properties. I am highly skeptical of the idea that their CEO sits down with a stack of papers and carefully goes over each project to affirm that its subtext and themes are all kosher. This isn't a defense of Disney; if they aren't supportive of putting ideology ahead of their obligations to shareholders then they are ridiculously negligent in overseeing their acquisitions.
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No.19346
>>19340
>Both adhere to the boomer argument:"democrats is the real racists" which is a recipe for failure.
This argument is so ineffective and yet cuckservatives just keep trotting it out. They really just can’t even challenge the left at all.
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No.19347
>>19345
It’s run by kikes. They want to poison everything.
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No.19353
>>19342
>Anyone that promotes this idea are professional shills.
That goes without saying. Either that or they're horribly deluded because they still think Disney is a children's cartoon company.
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No.19354
Jeremy was always shit though, he's a fucking Ahsokafag and he liked Soy Wars Rebels.
>>19317
>The way he talks makes it sound like he browses /sw/, /strek/ and /tg/.
I don't know if he comes here but he's been using terms like "our guy" recently. He doesn't act like a boomer like his friend Zach (who used to visit 4 & 8ch /co/).
>>19318
>I think everybody involved in this at a high level legitimately thought Rian’s movie was a masterpiece because they don’t really understand Star Wars at all
This, 100%. They wanted to have the brand and make a ton of bucks out of it but they have no idea of what makes Star Wars "Star Wars" and why it resonates with so many people no matter the race, age or gender. The hyperfuel introduced in TLJ and Soylo was like trying to rationalize a space fantasy universe, like if they were turning Star Wars into Star Trek.
>>19337
>LUKE'S GHOST MIGHT BE IN IX
That's not a surprise. Hamill can't say no, even if he wants to. He's getting close to Alec Guinness level of disgust for the Disney franchise.
There was a rumor before TLJ about how the force ghost could be killed. I bet they want to make him pay for having a loud mouth since the release of TLJ.
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No.19355
>>19354
>>19354
>There was a rumor before TLJ about how the force ghost could be killed. I bet they want to make him pay for having a loud mouth since the release of TLJ.
I hope they do it. Disney would lose any remaining hopefuls they have left.
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No.19358
>>19354
>why it resonates with so many people no matter the race, age or gender.
It doesn’t, though. White males like and purchase star wars products, just like white males purchase video games, board games, comics etc. black people don’t give a shit and women are casual fans of Star Wars for the most part. Obviously there are exceptions but for the most part Star Wars has a white male fanbase. People don’t like this fact and they want to change it.
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No.19368
>>19354
They thought TLJ was good sure it was everything disney wanted from SW a misanthropic, anti-heroic , unoriginal, lazy movie and they thought everyone else would love it because its another star wars +marvel humor!!
>>19354
> he's a fucking Ahsokafag
Jeremy comes off as an insincere person I wonder if he goes on about Ashsoka because "it shows he is not a sexist™"
>>19354
>turning Star Wars into Star Trek.
It wouldn't surprise me to find out that they were planning a crossover… ie how humans came to the starwars galaxy which was supposedly what some future spinoffs where about directed by JJ abrams no less.
>>19354
>Hamill can't say no
He could but they would kill him with $$$ penalties for breaking a contract. I'm sure the mouse would make it hard for him to find work after as well.
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No.19369
>>19358
Black fans are usually casual as fuck with those who really were invested in SW and the EU being a barely existing minority. Anyway its only helping to bite Disney in the ass now by alienating more than 80% of their source of profits. Alienating the hardcore nerds was an even worse mistake.
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No.19370
>>19368
>Jeremy comes off as an insincere person I wonder if he goes on about Ashsoka because "it shows he is not a sexist™"
I think he probably just wants to fuck her. though I can understand that
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No.19371
>>19368
>I wonder if he goes on about Ashsoka because "it shows he is not a sexist™"
He actually did say that after the Rebels finale and the time travel asspull thing, but he does waifufag for Ahsoka pretty hard. And I should know since I was an Ahsokafag Still am, but at least I don't let that cloud my judgement
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No.19372
>>19370
Her Rebels design is hardly that attractive. Her adult design in the Mortis episode even had bigger knockers and more skin. Although she would look better with white around her eyes like other fucking Togruta.
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No.19373
Speaking of Ahsoka, did she ever wear a hat or helmet in CW? Do Togruta even have headgear? I'm asking for a friend…
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No.19380
>>19354
>The hyperfuel introduced in TLJ and Soylo was like trying to rationalize a space fantasy universe, like if they were turning Star Wars into Star Trek.
The mechanics of hyperspace travel were already autismally mapped out in "Legends" sources, but Soylo's creators were too lazy to hit up Wookipedia and steal from it and decided to invent something retarded.
>I bet they want to make him pay for having a loud mouth since the release of TLJ
I ain't even mad. After the way he betrayed the fanbase on a Twitter tantrum, it'll be fun to watch him get ghost busted in webbums.
>>19368
>ie how humans came to the starwars galaxy which was supposedly what some future spinoffs where about directed by JJ abrams no less.
Please let this idea be as did as the porg spin-offs.
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No.19382
>>19285
GAMERGATE IS KILLING STAR WARS
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No.19384
>>19373
She did have a helmet as part of a space suit in an episode where they cut into a CIS ship from the outside or something. Other than that, there's just that jewelry thing she wears. unless you count fanmade mando helmets
>>19380
So they're digging up the original drafts of Alien Exodus?
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No.19385
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No.19388
Star Wars Fans Are Over; Star Wars Fans Don't Need to be Your Audience Anymore
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No.19389
It's going to be real amusing in 20 years when these people are in their 40s and still doing interviews talking about how GamerGate imperiled their lives and communities. They'll be writing it into college textbooks.
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No.19390
>>19389
I didn't even think of that, that's going to be some funny shit.
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No.19395
>>19389
Oh god I can't wait. This timeline has the worst moments, but also some of the best.
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No.19397
>>19395
Another thing I can't wait for is that email, faggamuffin.
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No.19398
>>19389
Does that mean people who think Gamergate was about corruption are gonna be considered the new holocaust deniers?
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No.19403
>>19368
>I'm sure the mouse would make it hard for him to find work after as well.
inb4 arrested for being drunk in the street, yelling antisemitic diatribes while carrying a laptop full of cp.
>Jeremy comes off as an insincere person
I agree, maybe it's because of the way he talks but it doesn't feel sincere. also I heard that he hires a lot of people who work for free on his website or something like that
>ie how humans came to the starwars galaxy which was supposedly what some future spinoffs where about directed by JJ abrams no less.
Why would they do that? To me it would break the whole SW universe. I always assumed that they were all from that same galaxy and evolved into understanding each other. There's no need to add more to it.
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No.19404
>>19403
Funny, Jeremy always comes across as sincere to me, but massively bluepilled and only just now figuring things out he should have figured out years ago.
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No.19409
>>19403
>There's no need to add more to it.
From their perspective they believe if they cater to California, soylent grin, big bang theory tier “nerdists”fags (nu-males) with cheap X meets Y gimmicks they can create a giant cinematic universe that will milk as many franchises as much as possible for years to come. Speaking of which how long until Disney buys Doctor Who I wonder?
>>19388
>Star Wars Fans Are Over;
I hope this becomes movie fans are over and Hollywood can no longer make shekels anymore and after many government bailouts ( you know bailouts would be inevitable) goes bankrupt.
>>19403
>I agree, maybe it's because of the way he talks
Yeah his defense of Disney/Bob Iger as well as JJ abrams does not help. There is more to it however such as how he changes his mind for example he liked TLJ & defended it until it became very unpopular ( ie impacted his views). The way he runs G&G is also a bit dodgy as he is clearly diversity hiring as many women, faggots (lgwtf++ degenerates),etc. and constantly virtue signaling about how “diverse” G&G is , how good his lame new hires are and that the leftists are wrong about their white male/sexist theory because of this. The bottom line is that he is still trying to appease leftists by pushing his own brand of SJW politics which in the end accepts and validates the anti-men and anti-white agenda/ premise of leftists.
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No.19414
>>19409
>Speaking of which how long until Disney buys Doctor Who I wonder?
Star Wars already have their version of Jack Harkness (Lando).
>The bottom line is that he is still trying to appease leftists by pushing his own brand of SJW politics
He reminds me of the "muh PR" cucks from GG (like the one who co-opted UKIP recently), always thinking that SJWs act rationally and will stop the nonsense if you show how woke you are.
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No.19417
>>19322
He pulls no punches because he is hiding behind a mask. He is a tripfag but in essence an anon. With that means he can say whatever with no consequences to his personal life.
He puts on a cringy act (especially his earlyer stuff) but it grows in you.
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No.19438
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>>19417
>He puts on a cringy act (especially his earlyer stuff) but it grows in you.
I kind of like it. Reminds me of MST3K but with a mixture of those corny but endearing "cartoon hour" shows they used to have with some goofy mascot as the host who would introduce a new cartoon every 15 minutes, like Bozo the Clown and its copycats.
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No.19440
>>19389
That's if we're still alive.
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No.19441
>>19404
>Jeremy always comes across as sincere to me
Have you seen his intro and general channel design?
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No.19442
>>19441
It strikes me as an earnest attempt to get attention. He doesn’t seem to be a person who lies or hides his opinion, he’s just very eager. He’s very much a normalfag.
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No.19443
>>19442
>It strikes me as an earnest attempt to get attention.
I agree with you in a sense, then. However, I think his attention-whoring normalfag nature will cloud and ultimately override his judgement when the two truly clash.
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No.19444
>>19285
>same people angry about the same stuff
He's right. When you force postmodernism into beloved franchises, this is the response you receive.
Just imagine being one of the top shareholders of Disney at a board meeting:
>So how's the superhero stuff doing? Kids still like it?
>Yeah, we're still milking it dry.
>What about Star Wars? It's probably the biggest franchise on the planet. I still can't believe Lucas sold it. He easily could've earned another billion by just releasing one more movie. Anyway, how's it going?
>Well, we decided to combine 21st century leftist political activism with a franchise the includes space knights saving the space princess, and for some reason people don't seem to like it.
>…wut?
>Yeah, it's weird. We even called out our consumers on social media and told them how wrong they are, but they don't seem to accept it.
It's going to be fun seeing Disney kill itself. Hell, maybe they actually go full Bioware and sell all of Star Wars to EA at the end of it.
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No.19446
>>19444
And since EA has basically the same attitude towards their clients it will be another 4-6 years of pain.
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No.19454
>>19285
>they're still blaming everything on gamergate
wew lad
Seriously, it's been 4 fucking years.
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No.19455
>>19443
Oh sure. He’s not going 14/88 anytime soon, and when the moment comes when his options are to retreat into normalfaggotry or go for the full reveal, he’ll go normalfag. I can’t necessarily fault him for that; he’d most assuredly lose everything if he decided to go all the way towards white nationalism.
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No.19465
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No.19470
Star Wars Last Jedi backlash and fan boycott: Director WARNS there will be consequences
<STOP HATING ON DISNEY AND OUR DESIRE TO RIP STAR WARS AWAY FROM YOU DIRTY CISHET MALES! If you don't stop making fun of Disney, Rian and all my friends, I will make a movie making fun of you sexist homophobic nazi fanboys! That'll teach you!
https://archive.fo/mFw0L
Are we driving them insane? I like where this is going.
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No.19472
>>19470
The question is, how do we make them take that final jump in to madness?
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No.19473
>>19446
The suffering will never end it seems.
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No.19474
>>19472
By continuing to trigger Rian on twitter and making sure IX does just as bad as Solo, if not worse.
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No.19475
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No.19476
>>19470
Some large portion of America’s media live in a post-money society. It’s so ubiquitous due to (((banks))) that they don’t have to worry about things.
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No.19477
>>19470
>there will be serious consequences
Oh will there? What are they going to do? Not make shitty SW movies? Make more shitty SW movies? Call people that don't like the movies sexist, racists, and a number of other ists and isms? In any case, do it faggots.
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No.19478
>>19285
in a sense, he's right. soywars, fembusters, gamergate, comicsgate, antifa, SJWs, alt-right, brexit, and the 2016 election are all united by a common thread. there is a culture war, and he's on the wrong side.
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No.19479
>>19470
>(((Mangold))) tweeted: “At this point, when work writing and directing big franchises has become the emotionally loaded equivalent of writing a new chapter of The Bible (with the probable danger of being stoned and called a blasphemer), then a lot of bolder minds [are] gonna leave these films [to] hacks & corporate boards.”
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No.19480
>>19479
>implying they aren't already in the hands of hacks and corporate boards
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No.19481
>>19476
>>19477
>>19478
>>19479
I think Disney wants to spank us.
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No.19482
>>19470
>they're actually serious
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No.19483
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No.19484
>>19337
Disgusting Got any sauce on any hints of what they plan to do with Lando in the new one? All I can find is shit just saying that he'll be in it, but nothing else.
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No.19485
>>19470
>"[Mangold] lashed out at fans who attack directors of beloved franchises, warning soon no talented director will take on these projects"
I don't see how that would be any different than what we have now
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No.19486
>star wars fans are notorious assholes
>rian johnson wants to make kino that by definition will piss off half the people and be adored by half the people
>star wars audience isolates the franchise by sending death threats to rian johnson and throwing a hissyfit
>getting movies cancelled, scaring away every director
>every director that isn't Rian Johnson
>Rian Johnson fucking lives for this shit
>Rian Johnson tweets against the fire in his sleep
>he writes deconstructed material without even trying
>Rian Johnson isn't even phased anymore by the bullshit
>Sure at first he had a moment of reflection, but now Rian Johnson is out for revenge
>Rian Johnson is now the only talented director that has the balls to work on Star Wars while not copypasting the OT's story.
>Rian Johnson is more of an alpha than most /sw/ users
>Rian Johnson is single handidly showing the world that Star Wars fans are assholes who deserve nothing
>While still gracing the silver screen with his love for cinema
Apologize
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No.19487
>>19484
>Lando erotically touches the Falcon computer, and smiles
Just my guess
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No.19488
>>19486
>Rian bitching on /sw/
Geez Rian have some fucking dignity.
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No.19489
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
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No.19492
>>19354
jeremy is an OT dickrider, he didn't like the prequels and loved The Farce Awakens. it's no surprise he wants to fuck ahsoka.
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No.19493
>>19486
>Rian Johnson is single-handedly showing the world that Star Wars fans are assholes who deserve nothing
i've been seeing this type of defense pop up more and more, how the sequel trilogy is just disney showing star wars fans what fuckfaces they are. while i don't disagree that most sw fans should die in a fire, you don't crash your franchise you paid billions for when you still have yet to recuperate those costs. it's fucking stupid.
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No.19494
>>19470
>there will be consequences
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No.19495
>>19285
Rian Johnson - CRITICISM= VIOLENCE
Also Rian Johnson- Luke should suckle milk.
>We should tar and feather him, but with green alien milk
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No.19499
>>19470
>the consequences will never be the same
>>19492
>jeremy is a heterosexual male. it's no surprise he wants to fuck ahsoka.
fixed
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No.19500
>>19470
>consequences
>dont say mean things about our movies goys or you'll be in big trouble!
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No.19503
>>19300
>>19494
>>19492
I honestly prefer WCB. I mean sure there other videos aren't that great and most of the "guest" speakers who aren't the main guy sound annoying, but at least they actively tell fans to attack and riot when needed and not take shit lying down while telling people to vote with their wallets by not paying to see Disney shit, unlike Ethan. Overall, they do a better job of rallying fans to go on the offensive unlike Ethan's "just laugh at them and it'll get fixed" ideology and Jeremy's limpwristed "offense" and Disney shilling. And also unlike the other faggot e-celebs (except Doomcock because I've never watched his shit so I don't know his opinions), WCB is very vocally against Disney buying ever property they desire and even gives people links or information on who to call (whether it be Disney's PR department other important groups), how to write letters to congress/representatives about Disney's monopolization, etc. Sure most of it doesn't do much, but the fact that he can get fans more riled up than the other e-celebs, makes him more effective and useful.
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No.19504
>>19503
Agreed the main guy from WCB is the best of the 3 channels. Idk about doomcock as well I am a bit skeptical of him since they really tried to promote him seemingly out of the blue however he is definitely better than the loud abrasive lesbian chick they have on the high council.
Ethan was shilling for fucking JJ abrams !
I think he said "his kids were jewish" one one of his vids coincidence? Jermey is a weak disney fag.
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No.19505
>>19493
the last jedi was the highest grossing film of the year. if anything whomever greenlit solo which was a shitshow of an idea from the start that nobody wanted was the stupid thing. otherwise they would be sitting pretty still.
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No.19506
>>19503
>>19504
Ethan and Jeremy are both JJ fanboys. Jeremy was initially against JJ but he started white knighting for him again claiming that Disney and journos were "just trying to make him look bad". What a load of shit. That's what most of these high council faggots have in common is either a love for JJ and/or Disney itself while thinking only Kennedy deserves any blame. Meanwhile the fuck behind WCB (I don't know his fucking name honestly) holds no respect for JJ or anyone at Disney and actively hates on the whole damn lot of them. As for Doomcock, he also doesn't hold back against Jew Jew Abrams and calls the lot of Disney "marxists", so you fucks might enjoy him if you don't mind the whole "corny scifi host" schtick he's got going.
>>19505
The Last Jedi was hardly as successful as its predecessors though, and the overall reception to it pretty much killed any hype.
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No.19510
>>19506
the last jedi was way more successful than attack of the clones the last middle installment of a trilogy. it grossed more than empire and aotc. if anything it generated passion into the franchise but solo once again should remind the fans that all they really will get in the future is nostaglia bait
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No.19511
>>19510
>hate and passion are the same thing
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No.19512
>>19511
>he doesn't know it's the third most liked star wars film
wew indeed
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No.19513
>>19512
>he doesn't know its the most hated star wars film
wew indeed
See? I can shitpost too while pulling claims out of my ass.
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No.19514
>>19510
In ticket sales. DVD/Blu-ray/merch is down the toilet.
Clone Troopers sold a shit ton of books/games/toys, remember Lucas said he made way more off merch than the movies. Rose Tico and the space horse can't sell anything. TLJ Blu-rays were in the bargain bin extremely quick.
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No.19515
>>19513
>most hated film in the series full of shit
>it's good
wew indeed
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No.19516
>>19511
>>19514
Not only that but there's simple inflation to consider.There are a lot more star wars "fans" around now than there were when AotC came out–Between grown-up fans of the OT, people who grew up with the PT, and the kids of the last two groups now being at movie-going age, there's a much bigger pool of star wars fans for Lucasfilm to draw from now than there was in the past. And on top of that, since Big Bazooka Theory you've got legions of nu-males jockeying for position to acquire maximum "le quirky geek XDDD" street cred. Considering how fucking huge their target audience is now, every /sw/ film should be BTFO of its predecessors if they were made with even a shred of competence. The fact that only TFA broke any records and that Solo straight-up flopped is a testament to how horribly mangled this franchise is, in spite of the many handicaps in place to help it along.
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No.19519
>>19486
>>Rian Johnson is now the only talented director that has the balls to work on Star Wars while not copypasting the OT's story.
What a load of bullshit. He copypastad both ESB and ROTJ for his movie.
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No.19536
So Mark Hamill has shaved his beard… Wtf does this imply? Is this him subtly rejecting nu-Luke or is he just prepping for his ghostly role in the IX where they digitally alter his face to make him look younger like George did with Anakin in ROTJ Special Edition?
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No.19537
>>19519
He also appears to have ripped off several terrible fanfic authors who have confessed to awful ideas like having Luke be a degenerate, Ackbar going to hyperspace into the imperial fleet, and Rey’s parents being nobody.
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No.19538
>>19537
I just wish Ackbar had been the one to kermit suicide instead of that bitch Holdo. That would've been the only good thing to come out of TLJ. And yeah, the whole KyloxRey thing, killing Snoke and her having no parents was basically all from the same fanfic.
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No.19540
>>19538
>change world physics in a way that renders the entire series pointless
>would have been the only good thing to come out of TLJ
Star Wars only worked because hyperspace did NOT work like that. Once hyperspace can be weaponized it changes the entire galaxy. Super weapons are pointless when anything with a hyperdrive can do that.
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No.19542
The latest rumors regarding LucasFilm: KK has already left, JJ is using her office at Pinewood Studios (since they're shooting Ep IX). Before she left she wanted Eirenreich to play a younger Indiana Jones. Some insiders say that she did it just to fuck things up since she knew she would get fired.
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No.19543
>>19538
>>19540
He means it would have been good for Ackbar to be the one to Allahu Ackbuar.
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No.19544
Even if the TLJ made a profit it is part of a trending decline in the quality and interest in Star Wars under Disney. Compare sales of new novels and comics before and after TLJ. Notice how much farther they seem to fall after Solo. See the lack of buzz surrounding Filoni's Resistance cartoon now that Rebels is ended and the queer lack of hype for the fate of the proposed resurrection of Lucas' ideas for a live action show. It is a stagnant beast that labors for breath.
>>19542
JUMP THAT SHARK!
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No.19545
>>19540
You misunderstand me. I meant this >>19543
It was good meme material. Either way TLJ was fucked from the get go and there's nothing salvageable about it. But the hyperspace fuckery was really fucking retarded, only made worse by having Holdo exist and have her do it.
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No.19548
>>19542
>The latest rumors regarding LucasFilm: KK has already left
I see no reason why Disney wouldn’t announce it if it were true. You kind of have to let shareholders know when there is a big leadership shakeup. All indications I see (based on the attitudes of employees) are that KK is firmly in charge, just not speaking publicly.
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No.19549
>>19548
They don't want bad PR I guess. That said it would explain Rian's behavior on Twitter.
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No.19550
>>19549
Not just Rian's. Most Lucasfilm affiliates/employees who regularly use twitter seem off. I mean yeah, Solo's failure probably shook them up a bit but they seem to be acting even more erratic as of late, especially Rian. It seems off.
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No.19561
>>19542
>>19548
All I got on my voter guide is info on the potential Disney/21st Century Fox merger. Don't remember anything on Kathleen, though would they mention that?
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No.19568
>>19561
I would think shareholders would want to know who is running a multi billion dollar division of the company. I have to imagine if they secretly fired Kathleen and replaced her with someone else the shareholders would be mad they weren’t told about it.
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No.19569
>>19568
Like I've said, apparently the changes have been made since that conference call. The shareholders know about it but there's no official word yet. What I don't get is the other rumor about the announcement that would be made in September, why September and not now?
>>19561
>Don't remember anything on Kathleen, though would they mention that?
Maybe Disney and its board aren't ready to announce it yet.
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No.19576
>>19540
>Super weapons are pointless when anything with a hyperdrive can do that.
what about the galaxy gun? it's essentially the same thing, no? a projectile shot at FTL speed is essentially a KEW, much like admiral lgbt-o ramming the ship. KEWs are also a real thing, although not used at FTL speeds, that's the one obstacle here, but han even warns the danger of just jumping into hyperspace.
>>19537
>>19519
rian's film was a mashup of esb and rotj sprinkled with some kotor dialogue. it was arguably less original than tfa, which was literally a new hope with eu stories used as subplots.
what's sad is that while i detest both films, i actually think tfa is the better film simply because it doesn't go full retard like tlj does. as much as i hate jj and his mystery box, i have to give him credit for playing it safe, it was a fair choice to make, minus killing han solo off and giving ford his smug satisfaction that george knew was a bad idea. sure, it may have been for the toys, but really han's death would have served no purpose other than emotional impact, ford was right about that bit, so many faggots gasped in the theater and i just lol'd at the facial reaction as my retinas burned for viewing the rape.
>>19569
not that guy but to my knowledge, the reason they aren't being vocal about it is that apparently nobody is stepping up to take kennedy's spot, everyone below her is basically a yes man with no charisma or competence to run the company. what's needed is a george archetype: someone who can manage business and at the same time provide creative input, whilst keeping the story group in check so that they don't just put out new shit on par with skippy the jedi droid or han punching giant otters (protip: they already surpassed this with helicopter lightsabers and time travel). kennedy was selected because she could do the business bit, and would leave the creative shit up to the story group, who as i said before became a bunch of yes men and were allowed to do whatever so long as it hit the checklist of diversity and left-wing politics.
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No.19580
The faggot show runners for Star Trek: Discovery literally included a Gamergate easteregg in a scene…
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No.19581
>>19576
Galaxy Gun's projectiles still had to drop out of hyperspace before delivering a nuclear payload as I recall.
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No.19582
>>19580
Everything keeps getting more and more surreal.
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No.19583
>>19581
i'd have to reread dark empire but you might be right about that. still, han mentions in episode 4 that driving in hyperspace into solid matter means a collision.
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No.19592
Fleet just needed an interdictor with a gravity well generator to force all ships out of hyperspace, and as huge as that thing in TLJ was, it should have multiple units. Also projecting a forward emitted tractor beam should be able to catch and deflect any smaller object. A million plausible military solutions that would have countered the "hurr durr - nobody ever thought of Ship of Peace at lightspeed" strategy
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No.19594
>>19474
Isn't it Jew Jew's turn to rape the corpse?
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No.19595
>>19583
> Travelling though hyperspace ain't like dusting crops, boy. Without precise calculations we'd fly right through a star or bounce too close to a supernova and that'd end your trip real quick, wouldn't it?
The exact danger isn't made clear. It could be a direct collision, could be that flying too close to a strong gravitational field pulls a ship out of hyperspace and potentially into a gravity well it can't escape from.
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No.19606
>>19594
I thought JJ said he never wants to touch Star Wars ever again
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No.19608
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No.19616
>>19594
Yes. But we should make sure IX doesn't earn much money, much like Solo.
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No.19617
>>19608
well, I'm sorry to hear that
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No.19618
>>19595
it sounds like he means both collision and a gravity well, but either case means certain death.
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No.19661
>>19617
Why? if all goes well (IX will bomb), JJ abrams might ruin his own career & have trouble getting future jobs.
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No.19675
>>19617
>>19661
My guess would be that while JJ is a hack, he also knows how to play it safe, unlike someone like Johnson. Whereas Rian is an egotistical little soyboy that feeds off controversy and the attention it brings him (even at the expense of profits), Abrams knows who pays his bills like any good Jew does, and even if he signals otherwise on social media he's willing to make a bland movie that takes little risks if it's a better payoff (see TFA, a soulless nostalgia grab, as evidence of this. The first two nu-treks are too, haven't watched the third). The question is whether audiences are pissed off enough that they'll reject even a milquetoast, no-risk affair that's inoffensive but uninspiring.
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No.19677
>>19675
Bland and mediocre won't cut it after The Lazy Jewing and Soylo: A Pansexual Trainwreck
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No.19680
>>19675
This >>19677
I do not think abrams will be able to pull off a miracle and make a good Star Wars movie which will fix what TLJ/TFA did to the franchise. It is not possible with that director, their current writers, lame characters, and lack of reason to continue (snope is dead, twilight ren is not a threat). As you say abrams will not take risks which means more of the same lazy poorly ripped off bullshit no one liked.
Drastic measures are needed to save the next movie(s) not more of the same.
First a retcon of TLJ (really TFA should be retconned as well).Next a story needs to be written that is compelling & makes sense with in the continuity of Star wars (not with the retconned stuff obviously). All characters need to be developed more to be interesting or cut and or replaced with new ones. Then Star wars needs an actual bad guy, perhaps bad guys since twilight-Ren is a non-starter and random “not the emperor guy” Snope is dead. Also the “order” does not seem to have any actual characters either. Lastly you need a reason for people to come back and watch Ep IX, you can tease some of the good changes mentioned but the only way people might go is if Luke Skywalker is not only back but kicking ass like Return of the Jedi. May also want to make this last movie a 2 part-er to have time to further develop everything and erase TLJ completely.
As stated apart from abrams being a hack director he is also a jew, which should trouble anyone thinking the next one will be good, I fully expect abrams to try and go “serious” by making the next SW have holocaust references as one these leaks going around depicted and rip stuff off from swindler’s list because that is all he can do rip things off and throw them together in a movie that is feature leg nth.
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No.19682
>>19680
What are the chances that JJ will pull a time travel asspull a la Filoni or like the time travel bullshit he pulled for his Star Trek movie where he basically retconned the OT?
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No.19683
>>19682
Less than the chances that time travel shenanigans are needed in real life to fix everything liberals have fucked up.
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No.19684
>>19680
>twilight ren
Explain this insult; what do you mean by it?
Also, if Disney went through with those changes and effectively ditched nuCanon, how do you think MouseFags would respond to it? I really have no idea how they'd react.
>>19682
>time travel asspull
"How did you send us back in time, Rey?"
>"Simple, I went into hyperspace backwards!" *Freaky grimace*
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No.19685
>>19684
>"Simple, I went into hyperspace backwards!" *Freaky grimace*
I can actually see JJ pulling something like this.
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No.19687
>>19684
>twilight ren
He looks like a bad rip-off of “Twilight “or other teen movie (for the female demographic) kind of guy.
I think it’s because he is the opposite of intimidating almost comedic in appearance and that’s without considering the silly voice and his behavior as a character.
>effectively ditched nuCanon
I also meant to write if possible RECAST nu-characters (Rey,kylo Ren , etc.) with better actors and in the marysue’s case someone at least some what attractive.
>how do you think MouseFag
It does not matter because they were never significant enough to matter and are also pretty weak minded and thus easy to get back on board. Remember these were the idiots that hated TLJ when they first saw it and then saw it multiple times on the advice of other mouse fags until they “learned” to like it. Shill articles probably work on them as well so there is that avenue as well.
Anyway the point is assuming the Star Wars story, characters, and everything I stated above in this post and the last are executed well the majority of fans & casuals should like the film & that is the goal.
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No.19690
>>19682
yeah I doubt they would do this they have decided social engineering>shekels.
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No.19691
>>19690
True, but what about as a way to make the movie worse?
>They write themselves into a corner as Resistance has no chance of beating the First Order
>decide to have Rey use hyperspace backwards time travel to travel back to before the PT or just the OT and fuck over SW on the grandest scale imaginable
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No.19692
>>19691
Which would make marysue even more marysue and allow them to recast and reboot the OT. The scenario you describe seems plausible for the out of touch hacks at disney.
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No.19693
>>19691
>Rey travels back to before the Old Republic era and the founding of the je'daii and becomes the true founder of the jedi order and the author of the books Luke keeps in his tree
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No.19694
>>19684
>>"Simple, I went into hyperspace backwards!" *Freaky grimace*
>not "I bypassed the flux capacitor!" *milk face*
>>19693
>>Rey travels back to before the Old Republic era
>not Rey travels back to knockup Anakin's mom, thereforce a skywalker, and having wincest with her great grandson
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No.19695
>>19693
>the code
Was that Flynt or the blockbot landwhale who wrote that snippet?
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No.19699
>>19680
>the next SW have holocaust references
Please do. I want Oy Vey level kvetching to be peak and undeniable.
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No.19700
>>19307
Isn't business 101 not "don't boycott anything" but "spend money on my shit, not other people's"?
>>19358
Star Wars is essentially space LOTR, a distillation of European folk tales and legends. Only Tolkein was more into purely English ones, wheras Lucas was more general (though there's still a healthy Robin Hood element in there). Lucas also added a dash of the east with the idea of "balancing" the force. Those 50's samurai movies he took inspiration from were really just Japanified versions of the old "white hat, black hat" Westerns introduced to Japan after the war, though. The real Samurai were just soldiers in civil wars, which had no real "good" or "bad" sides. Later on in the stable Edo period they were essentially noble cops.
>>19403
In The Expanse there's some FTL "gateway" thing that appears on the edge of the Solar System, they could tie it together by having a colony ship go through one gate, which then collapses, but the ship also goes back in time millions of years.
But that would still be bullshit. The real reason humans are in the Star Wars galaxy is because "they just are". It's not entirely out of the question that an Earth-like planet would produce Earth-like animals by evolution, anyway.
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No.19702
>>19700
There's another theory from before Disney that was implied by Revan in KOTOR which hints that humans (and possibly all near-humans and humanoid species) are actually the descendants of the Kumumgah, the original natives of Tatooine, which was once an earth-like planet before the Rakata ravaged it with their advanced tech. The majority of its inhabitants were enslaved by the Infinite Empire and spread throughout the galaxy as part of their work force. Its likely the ones left on Coruscant ended up becoming the Zhell (first Humans) and the Taung.
Knowing Disney, they'll probably just make humans from earth and use time travel bullshit.
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No.19705
>>19661
>IX will bomb
i doubt it will bomb anywhere near solo's level of failure. i'm also certain at the very least it will cover its budget and advertising, but my guess is in terms of profit it won't exceed half of what the last cuck made.
>>19675
the first two nu-treks aren't soulless nostalgia grabs, they're just wrath of khan remakes that were designed to bring a new audience to star trek, and it worked much better for them than it did for star wars. the third one was actual trash, it was style over substance and petty fanwankery, much like solo was ironically enough.
>>19702
there was a story that avellone wrote that was exactly that, 25th century humans dropped into a black hole or something and ended up in the star wars galaxy. the book was eventually made separate from star wars and became its own thing.
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No.19706
>>19705
> the book was eventually made separate from star wars and became its own thing.
Thank Christ that's a huge fucking relief.
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No.19707
>>19702
Not really a theory, more just part of the excellent lore of KOTOR 1. The Sand People actually mention it as part of their long stretching oral history if you give them a Krayt Pearl and prove yourself worthy of the information (and it's been a while but I think it also comes up on the final planet, playing through now so maybe I'll update after I go through it). KOTOR 1 always gets shit on in the story department because it doesn't tip enough fedoras but people tend to forget that it incorporated some really great lore into Star Wars, from the Rakata to the Jedi and Sith codes.
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No.19709
>>19337
>yfw rey teams up with her own force ghost to beat all 3 misogynerds, girl power!
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No.19710
>>19707
This. I've also sadly met more people who say they've played KOTOR II but have never played the first one and those that have even go so far as to diss it.
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No.19711
>>19707
are kotor graphics that bad or are you running it in slav resolution?
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No.19716
>>19710
There was a lot retroactive hate for everything BioWare ever made on /v/ stemming from their dissatisfaction with TOR. Tribalism applied to video game brands.
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No.19717
>>19691
>>They write themselves into a corner as Resistance has no chance of beating the First Order
This is probably the biggest reason that April Fools "joke" about them considering using time travel was done; they're actually considering it but wanted to gauge the reaction. As of the end of TLJ, there's no way for the Resistance to win in the present, so that's when altering the past would be seriously investigated as the last resort method of defeating the First Order. Liberals, to the contrary, are still beatable. It's just that they've fucked up so many things that even if you were to beat them it'd be a Pyrrhic victory.
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No.19719
>>19717
Exactly this. So the short bus alliance can beat literal sped tier imperials? Who gives a fuck.
>The only way 20 rebels beats nu-empire in IX is boring [-hand waving] anyway.
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No.19735
>>19717
It would probably have something to do with the World Beyond Worlds shown at the end of Rebels. CGI wolves all over IX.
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No.19737
>>19711
It doesn't look that bad, I think anon is taking pictures of a CRT monitor or something.
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No.19746
>>19711
It's being run on original xbox with scanlines. Not that I hate the PC version but I just wanted to play it like I originally did when I was young (also the PC version can't have scanlines at the moment, shame because it really makes the game look more like the movies and less like a video game by increasing the contrast and grit).
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No.19748
>>19707
>>19710
It's a shame. I enjoyed 2 a lot, and it does some interesting things, but 1 is much better as a Star Wars game.
And it really says something that KOTOR, despite being separated from the core of the franchise by thousands of years, feels right at home, while the nuWars films, for all their closeness to the OT, feel anything but. While playing KOTOR 1 I never once had to ask myself "does this belong in Star Wars?", but when it comes to the Disney films the decision to reject them is just as automatic.
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No.19749
>>19705
>the first two nu-treks aren't soulless nostalgia grabs, they're just wrath of khan remakes
Considering the degree to which WoK is praised even by non-fans, why do you think that a reboot of it is the opposite of nostalgia bait? Same with including Nimoy in the films as old Spock, it's nothing more than an attempt to pander. You can also see this in the fact that nothing that made WoK such a good film is present in nuTrek; they're both generic action flicks with a shit story, a coat of Trek paint, and the trademark lens flares.
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No.19750
>>19550
Some of the rumors bounding around indicate that KK put a lot of loyalists and fellow travelers in Lucasfilm since George took his money off the table. I don't know about everything that's been said the last few days but I'm damn sure that's true if she's anything but retarded. If things go well that makes her job easier for her, if things go bad then she has a poison pill for the threat. They don't even have to be competent, just loyal. And if Rian is anything like them, it'd explain a lot of things.
>>19580
Not just that, but a compete reference to that snitch Laurelai.
>>19677
It would have been fine after TLJ, if there were more aggressive steps to shut Rian up in the first place, but Solo has pushed the IP into dangerous territory. No major Star Wars feature was a bomb until that film; now that it has one to it's name, there's blood in the water.
>>19661
Has JJ ever written a solution for his mystery boxes? To my knowledge he just makes them and then leaves someone else to figure it out, usually with disastrous results for the person holding the bag. Only problem is that this time, someone tossed the bag back to him.
Here's the thing you and >>19680 have to consider; Episode 9 is filming. Right now. That means everything is set in stone, and since JJ was only recently brought back, it means he's doing Rian's film with minimal alterations to suit his tastes. Sure, they can reshoot things and add things willy nilly, but that will leak out. And if it does leak out that they are doing anything that remotely sounds like the drama of R1 and Solo, then it's going to GB16 for sure, no doubt about it.
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No.19752
>>19717
>>19749
>why do you think that a reboot of it is the opposite of nostalgia bait
well, it's the same thing with tfa being a remake of a new hope, it's using a formula that more non-fans are familiar with rather than the hard space autist shit that comes later. the difference here between the two is that nu trek wasn't designed to instantly jump ship on selling merchandise like tfa was.
i should reword my statement, the nu treks are nostalgia grabs (hence old spock) but not as soulless as tfa is, it actually attempted somewhat to steer the franchise in a new direction with the alternate universe and different takes on the classic characters instead of the sw approach, which is riding the coattails of the OT into oblivion.
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No.19754
>>19750
>since JJ was only recently brought back, it means he's doing Rian's film with minimal alterations to suit his tastes.
Hang on, Abrams was brought back nearly a year ago and they've just now started filming. I'd hardly call that recently, that's plenty of time for a bit of a re-write. Also, Rian Johnson didn't have anything to do with Episode IX, the one who was supposed to direct it was Colin Trevorrow who was apparently fired after demanding changes to TLJ because it would have given him nothing to work with, funnily enough.
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No.19755
>>19754
JJ had time to do a rewrite but he outright refused to do it.
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No.19766
I'm looking forward to the destruction of IX by Jumanji and Sonic the Hedgehog. they can spin the Soylo flop, but there's no possible excuse for the flop of a mainline numbered episode of Star Wars. I predict IX will pull in under $1 billion, and hopefully far less. the sooner Disney Wars gets Alderaan'd, the better. I trust KK and her henchmen to do the demolition job well.
>>19750
>Has JJ ever written a solution for his mystery boxes?
just wanted to mention, I don't think they bothered creating a backstory for Snoke. he's there because they needed a villain in the shadows, that's all.
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No.19767
>>19766
>I don't think they bothered creating a backstory for Snoke. he's there because they needed a villain in the shadows, that's all.
snoke has a backstory but it was retconned by a second backstory and that's the one they've stuck with.
you see, in 7, JJ's backstory was that snoke was a human who had an extensive history of using the dark side of the force and it was what caused him to be so repulsive.
after that, they decided to make his ugly ass into a species of alien that hung out in the unknown regions watching the rest of the galaxy fight itself.
that first tidbit came from a behind the scenes book iirc, which according to people like pablo hidalgo isn't entirely canon (this recently happened with something in solo), which makes no fucking sense, why bother mentioning the detail if it isn't considered part of it?
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No.19769
>>19767
either way it doesn't make sense. if there was a powerful darksider around during the OT, Palpatine would've been very interested in either co-opting or killing him. both Palpatine and Vader recognize Luke as a powerful force user, and a major conflict in the OT is between Luke wanting to redeem Vader and turn him against the Emperor, vs Palpatine wanting to convert Luke and take him on as a new apprentice.
therefore, if you have a villain like Snoke come in after RotJ, we need to know how and why he's there. but like much else in Soy Wars, they don't bother explaining or linking to the OT.
as flawed as the prequels were, they at least had a solid core of storytelling. Palpatine and Anakin's backstories are given, and it links up logically with IV.
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No.19771
SNOKE is the Sith No One Knew Existed. Forget a backstory, he doesn’t even have a name. He’s referred to by an acronym placeholder. He exists purely as a plot device.
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No.19773
>>19771
it's funny, because they've specifically commented that snoke and kylo ren are not sith
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No.19774
>>19773
>Not sith.
>Still dress in black.
>Still have red laser swords™.
>Still use dark side of the force.
They are not sith because disney though that retarded infinitesimal & inconsequential detail makes Soy wars unique rather than a rip off of a far better series (George Lucas movies).
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No.19775
>>19774
>Thought
And the worst part is they didn't even bother to show or create differences between Grandpa Snake, twilight Ren and the Sith of the PT and OT.
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No.19776
>>19774
>>19775
it also doesn't help that all the disniggers are attempting to defend it with pottery or muh allegory
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No.19778
>>19776
Impotent attempts to defend an unpopular and universally hated series of sequels.
>>19775
At best not being a Sith would mean old man Snape and monkey face would have an incomplete mastery of the dark side due to a break in the chain of a Sith master passing on knowledge (mastery /secret techniques) and training to his apprentice therefore the possibilities of what this differences should mean would be one of the following for Gramps and Emo:
>They are just disgruntled Jedi (light side users).
>They are proto-Grey Jedi (mixing light side with vague understanding of dark-side).
>They are laughably amateurish dark side users incapable of anything better than basic "dark side ability" (ie not very powerful and lack of high level powers such as lightning).
>Or Disney comes up with (rips off) a something new “a new order” of the force.
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No.19783
Incidentally I started looking around and reading up on Snoke and the First Order last night because I was curious if any effort had been made since the TLJ and the mass disgruntlement over LE SUBVERSION with EU lore scraps. Turns out, par for the course with everything in the sequel era, their answers don't actually answer anything without invoking an equally consternating question.
For example I wanted to know how and why he ended up as the Supreme Leader of the First Order when the FO hadn't even determined if they should crown a new emperor and who that should be among their council of remnant officials. It turns out that THE FIRST ORDER DOESN'T EVEN KNOW HOW SNOKE CAME TO POWER. He used vague, nonspecific, nebulous "subterfuge, manipulation, and guile" to undermine the military chain of command and before any of the humies knew what hit them Snoke had made himself King Ayy. Rae Sloane, Hux's father, and everyone else were apparently just blindsided by the fact that a weird Force-worshipping hobgoblin had just made some 4-D Underwater Chess grandmaster scheme to seize power work, and now the entire military junta is just going with the flow. It's implied that he and his navigators ingratiated themselves to the First Order by giving them the means to travel in the Unknown Regions without starving and running out of fuel, but that was just his entry point. They don't even pay lip service to the idea that having Force powers could have played a part.
Snoke's "genius" is based on how stupid people think smart people behave.
>>19767
Was he outright called a human? I thought he was always identified as near-human. I guess it doesn't matter except in explaining how a successor state to a human supremacist government would just accept an alien walking in a making a throne for himself.
>>19769
Palpatine did know about Snoke, apparently. He was well aware of his presence between episodes V and VI but didn't know specifically who or what Snoke was at the time. He was excited because he believed that Snoke was connected with what he was feeling in the Unknown Regions apparently since before the OT but he didn't have time to investigate further before dying on the Death Star II. So, to be fair, Sheev DID have a plan but he didn't get to put it in place. Doomed by canon etc.
>>19774
The Knights of Ren seem to have been completely forgotten. They may has well have never left the storyboard canvas.
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No.19784
>>19783
>The Knights of Ren
I never even noticed them until I heard people talking about it online.
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No.19785
>>19774
The reason why he isn’t a Sith is because Anakin destroyed the Sith, and so to Disney’s logic they can’t have Sith anymore. They can however have some other Dark side users that have a master/apprentice relationship and use force lightning and red light sabers and have wiped out all the Jedi and forced the last one into hiding. They also command a force that built a bigger death star and has ‘better’ ships and gear.
Like all things Disney it’s lazy, derivative, aesthetically worse, and by authorial fiat more powerful than what was in the original trilogy.
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No.19786
>>19783
>So, to be fair, Sheev DID have a plan but he didn't get to put it in place.
that's fair, but the movies don't tell you a word of this. the films are supposed to provide a coherent narrative, and they don't. you shouldn't need other sources to fill in the holes.
that bit about how stupid people think smart people operate is very insightful. I always assumed that Snoke's lack of backstory is due to sheer laziness and not caring about their craft, but that's another possibility. however, assuming Snoke is a super-powered genius, that makes his stormtrooper-esque death even more ridiculous.
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No.19787
>>19785
>Like all things Disney it’s lazy, derivative, aesthetically worse, and by authorial fiat more powerful than what was in the original trilogy.
exactly. it reminds me of nuDune. the Dune novels by Frank are classic, but then his son Brian got the IP, teamed up with Kevin J Anderson, and have been churning out hot garbage under the Dune name ever since. the whole thing is very similar.
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No.19789
>>19784
Weren't they those Kylo Ren clones that were with him at the start of TFA but never appeared again? Lol what fucking bullshit throwaways they were.
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No.19790
>>19778
>They are laughably amateurish dark side users incapable of anything better than basic "dark side ability" (ie not very powerful and lack of high level powers such as lightning).
People in old EU figured out lightning without having Sith training (Joruus C'baoth and Kyle Katarn come to mind).
The only sensible reason to have Snoke not be a Sith is to show that the dark side of the force always ends up recreating the Sith model in the end, with apprentice killing master to seize power. The problem is that I don't think the writers understood this, because Kylo killing Snoke is accompanied by him talking about how you have to let the past die and the writing in the rest of the film isn't smart enough for me to think they understood the irony there.
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No.19791
>>19787
They’re hacks, but they never went the easy SJW route to claim they were geniuses.
>>19786
>that's fair, but the movies don't tell you a word of this.
I’m pretty sure this is RLM’s fault. Stoklasa is a fucking moron who can’t follow any kind of lore. He had such a fit about two seconds of dialogue about trade routes that Disney made a very concerted effort to put no lore in the movies aside from the minimum to advance the plot.
The Plinkett reviews are probably the worst thing to happen to Star Wars because they provided the flawed blueprint that Disney followed into total shit.
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No.19796
>>19786
>the films are supposed to provide a coherent narrative, and they don't. you shouldn't need other sources to fill in the holes
It's Disney abusing the concept of an expanded universe. As much as old fans complained sometimes about George Lucas stepping in and retconning EU stuff that rustled his jimmies, his largely hands-off approach to it was a reflection that in his mind Star Wars was really about his movies. This meant that the movies were meant to be self-sufficient and that while fans could have reasonable questions stemming from a limit to what can be shown under time constraints in a movie, the movies still work on their own merits.
Disney is cynically using supplementary media as both an excuse not to have an airtight plot and to bilk audiences of their shekels to make up for it. Oh you don't understand why C-3PO suddenly has a red arm that clashes with his gold chassis? Buy the tie-in comic miniseries for $9.99!
>however, assuming Snoke is a super-powered genius, that makes his stormtrooper-esque death even more ridiculous.
And that's Lucasfilm's Current Year talent again robbing from the OT under the guise of rhyming pottery. Palpatine and Snoke were both powerful space sorcerers with psychic powers and precognitive abilities undone by raw hubris. Palpatine was so unshakably confident that his grand plans were coming together according to his visions that it never even crossed his mind that Darth Vader could be turned back from the Dark Side by Luke. He never even felt the goodness of Anakin left in Vader to see it coming for all of his sensitivity to disturbances in the past. Snoke likewise was so convinced that his ESP was perfect and Kylo Ren's loyalty was stronger than a dog's that it allowed Ren to fool him by concentrating his thoughts and feelings on vague and uncertain subjects so that Snoke would never know that it was he who was Ren's "true enemy."
Rhyming indeed until we consider that the Emperor dying was part of the natural conclusion to the saga while Snoke's death halfway through only serves to fuck things up even more.
>>19789
They were all given different armor designs and weapons to make them look like some specialized villain squad belonging to the same knightly order but after one scene in TFA they are not seen or heard from again in any Star Wars media. Not even novels or comics talk about them. The extras wearing their gear might as well haven't had that scene. They're arguably the biggest nothing burger out of all the Mystery Boxes.
>>19791
Personally I think they wouldn't care about making a lore enriched movie anyway because they think they can use a lack of it in the films to sell their nu-EU products.
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No.19799
>>19754
TLJ came out late 2017, and Solo came out a few weeks ago. Whatever they did with Abrams since this time last year, the problem that he now faces is only about 6 months old. In fact they might not have even realized there was a problem until about a month ago. A year might allow for some time to drastically repair a script but half a year? When you have to secure resources and filming locations and so on? That's cutting it awfully fine. And then that's if they didn't realize they had a problem with Solo, which it certainly would be too late to do anything about it if it only became apparent at that late date. Indications are that nothing was done to the material since TLJ, however.
>>19755
He either refused to rewrite, or more likely could not do major rewriting due to office politics and/or time.
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No.19812
>>19799
> or more likely could not do major rewriting due to office politics and/or time.
Abrams 100% endorses the retarded marxist bullshit disney and Lucasarts pushes if he had a problem with TLJ it was that it's subsequent PR disaster made him look bad as well since Rian did not bother to try and explain his retarded mystery boxes. It would be interesting to see how horribly he fucks up a conclusion to a piece of media rather than screwing up its beginning.
>Indications are that nothing was done to the material since TLJ, however.
I doubt they have decided to cut their losses unless they want to burn abrams in the process as well. My guess is they want to make the best of this garbage trilogy money wise which means they will most certainly try and “fix” part of it the question is do they think they can do it just in editing?
You will know they are trying to "fix" this train wreck if and when the following things are leaked or announced:
>Re-shoots for any reason.
>Any sort of Production delays.
> Apparent retcons in released media.
>2 Part movie conclusion.
> Leaks of a seemingly alive Luke Skywalker.
> Talk of George Lucas being involved in any way (screams desperation)
>Departure and replacement of Lucas arts employees involved in movie production.
I don’t think they will fire or replace Abrams as he is in essence their Neil Ritchie no matter how incompetent he is they have to stick by him or face losing millions of more $hekel$ by releasing him from his contract and then face the reality that good directors will be increasingly hard to get due to the draconian environment that Disney’s Lucasarts have created for Starwars. The PR mess caused by such a move would also be horrific.
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No.19813
>>19812
>most certainly try and “fix”it part of. The question is…..
>You will know they are trying to "fix" Ep IX in more than just editing when…
Time will tell what they ultimately will do or not do for that matter but either way Ep IX will suck and “that’s a good thing™”.
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No.19814
>>19812
Can Abrams even write something that doesn't add mystery boxes but instead opens them?
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No.19818
>>19814
>Can Abrams even write something that doesn't add mystery boxes but instead opens them?
don't be ridiculous, abrams works on the spielberg level of "show, don't tell".
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No.19824
>>19818
>"show, don't tell"
It's more like imply and never explain.
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No.19825
>>19796
everything you said is true. there is one difference, which is that Palpatine was focused on zapping Luke and got ambushed. Snoke's death was much more contrived.
as I said in another thread, nuWars copies the style of Star Wars without understanding the substance. it's like a student who plagiarizes published works for a paper. he knows this is better than anything he could do, but he doesn't understand it properly, and ends up using the material out of context, resulting in a disjointed mess.
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No.19836
>>19825
>Palpatine was focused on zapping Luke and got ambushed
Not to mention he got really flustered that Luke just threw his lightsaber away in what was supposed to be his moment of conversion. That kind of irritation obviously threw the guy's force mojo off.
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No.19842
I'm amazed by the hubris Disney had where they didn't even plan a trilogy out storywise before doing it. I mean, that's why it's so shit, they have no story to tell really, they make it up as they go on. Who would've thought that wouldn't work out?
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No.19843
>>19842
One version of events I heard was that JJ had something mapped out for all three movies, but Rian tossed it because it lacked his ‘genius.’ Rian though says there was nothing after TFA, so I’m not sure who I believe. I believe that JJ just left a bunch of mystery boxes for the next guy, but Rian being a massively arrogant cunt and throwing everything out fits too. My guess is JJ had a rough treatment that didn’t answer anything and Rian just went with his own even worse ideas and threw out the wafer-thin continuity.
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No.19849
>>19843
I think this idea of abrams and Johnson being opposed to each other is bullshit. They are latte drinking fags and they don't give a fuck about Starwars.
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No.19850
>>19849
>They are latte drinking fags and they don't give a fuck about Starwars
That is true, but it doesn't necessarily mean you can't have on the clock drama. It's not even so much the concept of JJ and Rian being opposed, rather than JJ simply didn't care because he thought he wouldn't have to touch it again. Then Rian and KK happened, and he's reeled back in regardless if it was all to his original plan or against it. If he even had one to begin with, of course.
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No.19865
>>19850
Idk what abrams is thinking getting involved in what will be a giant failure. He might not get work after this although I supposed a certain tribal nepotism might make him immune to that in any case it will tarnish people's opinion of him (those that still think this hack is anything more than a hack) as a director and cost him $hekel$ in future movie projects.
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No.19872
>>19865
I thought Abrams got in Hollywood thanks to his producer father's connections. If that's the case, then he'll always have work lined up. I don't believe him and Rian were fighting at all. Abrams is like Spielberg, where he knows which lines to cross when it comes to subversion and has enough subtlety to pull it off. Rian isn't initiated like them and just fucks things up bombastically without realizing how going all out will backfire. It's the difference between how the NFL kneeling and Gamergate were handled. One caused a shitstorm but reeled it back in, while the other kept pouring gas on it until it escalated out of control. Abrams is smart enough to realize how Rian fucked what was to be a crown jewel of subversive entertainment, so he's trying to do damage control to keep it alive.
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No.19873
>>19872
>so he's trying to do damage control to keep it alive.
I'll believe it when I see it,right now they are still pretending everything is fine.
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No.19875
>>19873
That's how companies act even when they know they've fucked up. There is no way Disney isn't panicking over a Star Wars movie flopping. I'd imagine the problem is figuring out how to fix IX while Kennedy clashes with higher ups over things getting this bad. Can you imagine the daily atmosphere at Lucasfilms right now? Must be soul crushing to watch them put out fires. It's why they're sperging out so hard on social media. They can't handle the shit from management, so they take it out on the customers, since those customers are why things are so bad at work right now.
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No.19878
>Disney gave their billion dollar franchise to the guy that directed their commercials
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No.19884
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No.19930
>>19875
>Must be soul crushing to watch them put out fires
I wish I had a fly-sized spy drone to see it happen in real time.
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No.19969
>>19875
>They can't handle the shit from management, so they take it out on the customers, since those customers are why things are so bad at work right now.
If management was pissed, people who talked shit to customers would be shitcanned. The employees and management are freaking out but the management is clearly angry at the fanbase themselves.
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No.20006
>>19707
I actually wasn't even aware that you could turn the Krayt Pearl into the Sand People to get more lore from them. I thought it was just a saber component.
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No.20007
>>19842
>>19843
They don't care. Why the fuck would they care? They fucking hate Star Wars and they fucking hate the fanbase. They think all the fans are drooling retards who will buy up anything that has the right logo on it.
Seriously, put yourself in the place of a Disney suit. Think about the mentality of a high-level Hollywood executive. Reflect on what people like Johnson and Abrams think about when they get up in the morning. You think they have any respect for the lore? You think they give a shit about a coherent story? They don't have to plan out shit, because as far as they're concerned we're all just braindead consumers, and their only job is to open our mouths and wallets as wide as fucking possible.
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No.20013
>>20007
Well if that's the case, they apparently have made a mistake somewhere along the line since merch isn't moving and the number of butts in the seats in theaters is going down with each release.
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No.20016
How did that guy get a job as a writer?
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No.20020
>>20016
Nepotism and having the correct political beliefs.
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No.20033
>>20016
The absolutely tragic state of Star Wars literature.
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No.20040
>>20020
>>20016
He's also a gayfag, so Lucasfilm/Disney get to crow about hiring diverse viewpoints to represent Star Wars.
I won't repost the fart orgy pages
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No.20042
>>20040
>I won't repost the fart orgy pages
I WILL!
>gayfag
Did the fat fuck come out of the closet to avoid criticism by calling his haters homophobes or something?
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No.20045
>>19843
JJ had a plan in case he ended up directing all three, that's what you're thinking of. the only other plan was george's trilogy, which they trashed after he quit. when it was determined rinsed penis johnson would be doing the next one, JJ showed him some ideas and continuity and rpj was like "lol no" and instead made his masterpiece
>>19865
>He might not get work after this
JJ has been working hard in the producer's chair the last several years, like i said before he's very much following the path of spielberg
>>19875
my guess is this is why clone wars was revived, they felt it was guaranteed to succeed and will use it to reel in everyone who's suddenly anti-sw to see the next movie as well.
>>20016
>real-ass history is full of retcons
yes, i forgot when hitler actually started WW2 to save the world from an impending alien invasion.
>>20042
>Did the fat fuck come out of the closet to avoid criticism by calling his haters homophobes or something?
no, he just took enough mouse dick that it eventually became his favorite
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No.20046
>>20042
He was already out of the closet but yes he went on a spectacular Twitter tantrum claiming that people couldn't handle gays in Star Wars and that his critics were basically IRL Imperials (as if anyone but plebs consider that an insult).
>>20045
<yes, i forgot when hitler actually started WW2 to save the world from an impending alien invasion.
I'm almost positive that Harry Turtledove wrote a novel that was just that.
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No.20051
>>19836
that's a good point.
>>19873
this. they have a litany of excuses for the Soylo flop. when IX crashes and burns, there will be no escape from cognitive dissonance and a complete meltdown.
>>20042
>this getting published
the absolute state
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No.20052
>>20045
hitler actually started WW2 to save the world from an impending alien invasion.
Partially true Polish Marshal Edward Rydz-Smigly started the war however Germany declared war on the soviet union to save Germany and by extension Europe form communism.
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No.20054
>>20016
>>20052
Point is chucky is right that history gets retconned although the proper word for it is censored by propagandists in charge. Someone should tweet him revised holohoax stuff and doctored atrocity propaganda photoed as pictured (top is fake bottom is real) for the lols.
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No.20056
>>20054
I'm not sure that retroactive continuity is misapplied when referring to historical revisionism, though it certainly isn't the commonly accepted terminology.
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No.20063
So apparently James Gunn (director of Kenobi) has gone off the deep end on Twitter with spergy behavior. Is that a win?
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No.20064
>>20054
He is right in that sense, historical revisionism is a thing and everything in history should always you leave you thinking how much of it is actually accurate, but to him that's not the point, as all the parts of history that he agrees with or support his views are 100% uncompromised.
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No.20072
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>>20063
Looks like Gunn is in trouble!
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No.20083
>>20063
I'm not sure, Gunn is actually a great director. It's a shame that he's apparently turning out to be some kind of scumbag.
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No.20087
>>20083
Its like that one author who did that one awesome new canon book where Vader proved how powerful he is, but then the author went full SJW on twitter demanding anyone who dislikes Rian to stop follow him. Also with this recent shit, I wonder if Disney will want to replace Gunn like they've done with every first director of a spinoff?
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No.20088
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No.20089
>>20087
I'm more interested to see what this will mean for Guardians of the Galaxy.
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No.20090
>>20088
OH SHIT
JAMES GUNN HAS BEEN FUCKING FIRED FOR PEDO-ENABLING AMONG OTHER THINGS
http://archive.is/aPDmC
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No.20092
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No.20093
>>20089
No more GotG 3 apparently >>20090
and no Boba Fett movie now for sure.
>>20063
He's the director of Fett.
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No.20094
>>20093
Fett was cancelled before this though (supposedly).
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No.20095
>>20093
>>20094
either way, I'm grateful they won't get the chance to create a soyboy Boba Fett, as they did with Han Solo.
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No.20096
>>20095
Indeed. Not to mention Gunn had become the most or second most active fan basher next to Rian. So this may actually work in our favor and make more people side with SW/EU fans.
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No.20097
>>19702
>The majority of its inhabitants were enslaved by the Infinite Empire and spread throughout the galaxy as part of their work force. Its likely the ones left on Coruscant ended up becoming the Zhell (first Humans) and the Taung.
So, Bioware-writers watched a lot of Stargate at the time?
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No.20103
>>20016
Look at that soy face, looks the same as the pic in >>20007 almost.
>>20042
I hadn't seen that gas one before.
>>20095
They'll only put the fork in it if Episode 9 dies.
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No.20105
>>20103
>soy face.
>weak effeminate men nu-males.
As soon as fags became "accepted" and openly pushed by all forms of media you see the results a culture run by weak faggots promoting weakness,submissiveness, and homosexuality instead of masculinity. Society is fucked.
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No.20106
>>19470
It's just to fucking good that they're going apeshit.
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No.20107
>>20088
>>20072
He looks like a lesbian.
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No.20108
>>20107
That what jewish males look like.
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No.20112
>>20108
Gunn isn't Jewish, though. He's Eternal Hiberian. I posit convergent (de)volution based on nu-male neuroses.
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No.20114
>>20112
He admitted he was in a twitter post.
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No.20115
>>20092
>>20090
What were the actual tweets? The articles I looked through never actually showed them.
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No.20120
>>20112
Not to derail the thread, but he did say he was jewish. Not sure if its true though. He could've just said that because he's ashamed to be white. But if it is true, well that'd be quite amusing.
>>20115
Here
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No.20128
>>20120
Yeah, I just bothered to look at his Wikispergia article and it didn't mention it, but he apparently he did claim to be "part Jewish in 2016. Mind that it was in defense of being accused of being a nazi over something which might have something to do with his recent behavior.
Anyhow he's a leftist hardliner and a hypocrite that further poisons the cancer wracked body of Star Wars. It's like these and hacks with no connection to the lore are the only people that can get hired. This won't spare Obi-Wan's character from defilement, though, they'll just pick another fellow traveler. Hell, they'll probably pick somebody with more damning social media blogposts.
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No.20129
>>20090
I was listening to Midnight's Edge and why do they keep inviting MundaneFatt? The guy keeps talking about his Gamergate e-celeb life and how he was alledgedly a Hollywood guy. Now he's defending James Gunn.
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No.20132
>>20120
It isn’t really funny. I don’t mean that in the outraged morality way but in an actual comedy way. It’s like he thinks just by saying “fuck a kid, amirite?’ that it’s going to be funny. Left-wing people really do suck at everything.
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No.20135
>>20132
This honestly. I'm not offended by his shitty tweets. They're just not funny and don't really come across as "jokes". They just come off as weird. Also the guy who played Drax in GotG has come out defending him and has gotten over 20K+ likes despite that Gunn was the victim of the very same standards he supported. Oddly enough I won't be surprised if in a few weeks the faggy wrestler who plays Drax ends up falling victim to the same shit as Gunn (not because of tweets) but because the guy has a long criminal history according to sperg-central wikipedia.
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No.20138
>>20103
>They'll only put the fork in it if Episode 9 dies.
we need this to happen. IX is the golden opportunity to put a silver bullet in Disney Wars. if we pull it off, the meltdown will be like the 2016 election all over again.
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No.20139
>>20138
Oh God yes! My only concern though is the recent rise in popularity for CW. Normally I wouldn't be worried because that show had its fans, and it makes sense that they'd want to see it finished, but a friend told me something that worried me. He's pretty pleb but hated TLJ and said he would never give money to Disney again, but after seeing the CW trailer yesterday, he told he'd be probably be forced to go see IX and buy Disney stuff "if it means we'll keep getting classic stuff like this". I'm trying to convince him that if he has to give them money to at least not do it for IX and save it for Zahn's new book and CW instead.
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No.20140
>>19707
I wanna know what happened to this big guy…
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No.20143
>>20139
Tell your friend he sounds like an abused woman who sticks arounds for the good times between the beatings and rapes. It is the same mentality and if he wants the mouse cumming in his ass until he dies he's sounds ready for it.
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No.20146
>>20139
CW does complicate matters, but there's always the chance that they screw it up. given who we're dealing with, that's not unrealistic.
either way, you can tell him that supporting Disney's trash is not worth it, and the sooner the Disney Wars franchise is devalued and destroyed, the more likely it is that we'll get actual good stuff at some point in the future. they've demonstrated that their product is trash, and they don't respect the customers. they'll keep doing this until we strike at their bottom line.
and as I told another anon elsewhere, there's no need to consider Disney Wars as anything but corporate fanfic. Mark Hamill, Harrison Ford, and Carrie Fisher signed on without realizing what they were getting into, and got exploited and shitted on. Harrison Ford agreed to have his character killed off ASAP, Mark Hamill has dropped numerous hints in interviews that he hates nuWars (eg saying his character was Jake Skywalker, not Luke), and Carrie Fisher an heroine'd with a drug cocktail, possibly to escape this mess.
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No.20149
Reasons for trusting Lucasfilm only decrease with time. I'm prepared for the next Thrawn book to be pozzed with story group demands original author or not. I say this as somebody who liked some things in nu-canon for the first year or so. The Hail Mary at play with The Clone Wars is not to be trusted on that alone. Disney will not underwrite the resources that would be needed to uphold the kind of animation that TCW's later seasons pulled off and they won't be willing to provide a comparable budget either. If it's not a movie, they barely pretend to care.
This argument needs to be offered to anybody chugging the chode over this teaser. Most of them aren't soylaacs but are probably just young adults who were kids when TCW was on Cartoon Network every week. If this revival pisses them off, it'll hit them somewhat. Not as badly as a movie bombing, but it might present further difficulties for television fare like Resistance and the live-action show cooking on the back burner.
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No.20150
>>20129
I dunno, they seem to invite every other motherfucker in the YT filmscene on their things. A little bit ago Doomcock dropped on there in character, for what it's worth, and he's flying under the radar compared to them. Matt seems to be getting on there less and less though.
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No.20154
Also, FWIW, Disney really didn't have a choice here with Gunn. Gunn might have brought in money, and maybe Western fans wouldn't care about the tweets (although the results of Grace's informal Twatter poll suggest otherwise). But emerging markets would have reacted VERY BADLY to this. You think the Chinese (or any other country you want to throw in) would go see a Marvel film made by a "White Left" who is accused of being a pedophile? Perish the though! Iger certainly knows this, and regardless of his preference on the situation he'd be mad to keep Gunn on just for that alone.
Also Iger might want to run for President in 2020. Now, put yourself in his position; if you run, do want to have a rep of keeping a guy like this on, and then try and blast Trump on (comparatively) mere marital indiscretions? You'd be torn to shreds. That's if every other fucker in your own party didn't murder you first with attack ads and debate hits. Instead, firing Gunn gives Iger some cover and some brownie points with sensitive moderates (not a small crowd).
So, all these people bitching about Gunn getting fired can't see the big picture. Which is why most of them are e-begging on Patreon rather than sleeping on beds made out of Benjamins.
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No.20157
BIG NEWS
After James Gunn was fired, dozens of celebrities on twitter started deleting their tweets by the hundreds, with one even going as far as deleting over 9000 tweets (no joke and I wasn't referencing that DBZ meme) and a bunch of celebrities have gone silent now. But that's not what the real BIG NEWS is. The real BIG NEWS is that Rian Johnson himself is among the celebrities, with him having deleted over 200 tweets in the last few hours (pic-related). Could said tweets actually be a risk to his career? Did anyone archive his deleted tweets or know which ones they might be? I know its underhanded but this could be a real big blow to his pretentious ego. Also what about Kennedy or Chuck Wendig or any of the other SJW writers? This could be our chance to go on a purge.
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No.20166
>>20154
Perhaps, but people also swore that Rose and Finn would never become an item in TLJ because the SEA market would not accept a black on yellow romance and yet they went through with it. I would also expect that in any hypothetical election match-up that most media outlets would bury anything inconvenient to Igor and blare 20 times as many pussy grabbing retreads to drown it out. It could be that things are different now because of how the profits from TLJ and Solo wounded them.
>>20157
Now this is fascinating. I wonder how many did this all together and why now when it's certainly not the first celebrity or high-profile individual who's been embarrassed by politically incorrect blog posts from many years back. Is it all independent panic and damage control or are they part of some group and decided to start scorching the earth?
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No.20174
>>20154
The only reason he was fired was because Disney wouldn't want anyone if any allegations near their company's image, because what's their image and main-market? Kids and their parents.
It wasn't because of the tweets, it was because of the allegations and to not tarnish their image in being the major big kiddy (diddler) media.
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No.20175
The Gunn firing scared them, because all these soy faggots were South Park edgelords in 2008 who joked about fucking kids and they don’t dare criticize Disney because it owns them.
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No.20176
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No.20178
>>20157
It may have just been some shit he "thinks" is offensive, but really isn't. Then again this might be worth looking into.
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No.20180
>>19287
>This timeline needs to be thrown in a trash compactor.
That made me chuckle harder than I should have.
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No.20194
>>20157
Okay, some youtubers are saying Rian (as of a few hours ago) has deleted over 20,000+ tweets. Does anyone know if Chuck Wendig or JJ have been doing the same?
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No.20204
>>20194
There's a few deleted tweets, at least 23 have been removed…but considering he's on Twitter all the damn time he's made 250,000 of them (really) and posts all the damn time. He could have just nuked 23 (which isn't a lot) or he could have removed 123, and made 100 posts since then. Really hard to say.
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No.20205
>>20120
>>20132
>>20135
>[the current year] imageboards
>all normalfag central
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No.20206
>>20157
These idiots deserved to be fired not for any other reason than using their real identities on social media.
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No.20207
>>20204
Technically Rian had 2,316 tweets before yesterday.
http://archive.is/jXU3Q
Now he only has 1,118 tweets. So he's deleted 1,198 tweets now.
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No.20208
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No.20209
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No.20210
>>20209
What are you on about man? That's cuckchan /pol/ reacting to youtube shit and doing a good job of actually being funny. Gunn was just being a weirdo and roleplaying as a pedo with a friend (who actually turned out to be a pedo) for no real reason while not reacting to anything. The only time he reacted to anything while making tweets like was when he said he got turned on by that incident where an ape jizzed in some kid's hair.
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No.20211
>>20194
>>20204
>>20207
Akshuarry, Rian did originally have 22K posts on Twitter a couple of months ago but he erased them all in the blink of an eye way before Mike Gun was fired. The current deleted ones were because of Mike's controversy though.
>>20157
We don't need to do anything. 4chan /tv/ and /pol/ are already looking up their tweets and trying to find out if Rian and some other guys have anything that will get them fired.
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No.20212
>>20206
Honestly they have no one to blame but themselves. Any smarter faggot would have just anonymously shitposted on /b/. Still Mike might learn something from this since he approved of using Twitter to shame people and ruin their careers in the form of "freedom of speech does not mean you're free from consequence". He's received a taste of his own medicine and so have all his followers and hopefully this will make them realize that their tactics are stupid and this will either begin the de-tumblrfication of Twitter or the end of Twitter.
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No.20213
>>20210
First of all, "not funny" and "he's weird" is not a reason to get up-in-arms over some kike faggot. That sounds like something a fucking middle schooler would find issue with or a normalfag, since (ab)normal "adults" are essentially overgrown children, and this is my biggest issue.
Second, I'm not sure I'd call his tweets "roleplaying", and you're outright lying with
>he said he got turned on by that incident where an ape jizzed in some kid's hair.
unless you're referring to a different tweet, in which case, source it.
>>20212
>since he approved of using Twitter to shame people and ruin their careers in the form of "freedom of speech does not mean you're free from consequence".
Got a source for that? Not surprised at all if that is the case, considering where he works.
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No.20214
>>20211
>>20212
>Mike
Fuck I meant James. Damn RLM to Hell.
>>20213
>Got a source for that? Not surprised at all if that is the case, considering where he works.
It was during the Rosanne incident. However he deleted all of his tweets concerning Rosanne after he was fired. I wonder if that means if he now understands her plight.
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No.20216
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No.20217
Anyone know if there's an archive somewhere of all of Rian's deleted tweets? Archive.is yields nothing
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No.20218
>>20217
I hate to admit it, but cuckchan is doing an archive search now and gathering up pics and links. They'll probably find something on Rian soon enough, I just hope someone bothers to post that shit here once they get it.
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No.20222
>>20194
JJ doesn't have a twitter but according to Socialblade, Chuck Wendig has deleted 27 tweets because of Gunn. Fuck, we probably could've ruined that hack with those.
>>20213
Gunn was also attacking SW fans for daring to speak their mind against Disney. Fuck him mainly for that honestly.
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No.20235
>>20222
>Chuck Wendig has deleted 27 tweets because of Gunn
it's still archived somewhere, just a matter of digging them up, they pulled some shit on dan harmon yesterday/today.
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No.20240
>>20222
> Chuck Wendig has deleted 27 tweets because of Gunn
No. He's deleted over a thousand tweets as of yesterday according to socialblade and an additional 22,000 a few months back. Also, all the celebrities who were hating on SW fans have suddenly become ridiculously quiet and their tweets mostly tame when concerning SW. Even Rian isn't daring to bear his fangs. This is it. The pussyfooted Disney pawns are realizing they're not as invincible as they thought. This our chance to either strike back or watch them crash and burn.
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No.20242
>>20211
>Rian did originally have 22K posts on Twitter a couple of months ago but he erased them all in the blink of an eye way before Gunn was fired
Huh, Rian might actually be slightly less retarded than someone working over at Marvel. Wonders never cease.
>>20235
>they pulled some shit on dan harmon yesterday/today
An old video surfaced where he was fucking a plastic newborn baby doll.
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No.20243
>>20242
>An old video surfaced where he was fucking a plastic newborn baby doll.
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No.20323
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
WCB released a new video warning people not to be too trusting of Disney just because they brought back Clone Wars. The comments are surprisingly filled with people on their side and the EU side, but (as expected) the Disney defense force has arrived and are using the fucking "Skippy the Jedi Droid" argument as to why the "EU is shit" without even realizing that the story was a lighthearted parody of the EU… How can these pleb faggots be such idiots? I mean, I could understand hating the EU if you actually know the material and had personal beefs with it, but just using the same old dud arguments based on ignorance of the material is just getting tiresome.
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No.20327
>>20323
It's like calling the EU shit because of Tag and Bink, or the 80s anti-smoking PSA. Complete ignorance of the fact that those one-off comedy stories were never canon to begin with, unless stated otherwise.
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No.21068
>>20323
>last ditch attempt
good to see someone has a brain
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No.21070
>>20323
>bitching about Skippy or Tag & Bink making the EU bad
>when those were explicitly non-canon stories that were (in a nice way) making fun of the same EU they're always hating on
This is how you can tell when people are being deliberately disingenuous to push an agenda. I not convinced anyone can read those stories and miss the point. Those are 100% shills.
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No.21083
>there are people who hate tag and bink
Alright I can understand not liking their story for one reason or another but I thought it was funny. I dont get how any sane person can hate the story and say that Tag&Bink ruined the EU. The story was harmless.
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No.21084
>>21083
Its by the same casuals who shit on Skippy and the EU in general for daring to have even the slightest hint of comedy or parody within it. But its also mainly because Dorkly and other "nerd sites" released a lot of anti-EU articles after Disney announced they had retconned it for the sake of the defending the corporate mouse. Skippy, Tag and Bink, the Ewoks media and the Wookiee Holiday Special were always on the top of those lists, with barely any novels ever being mentioned, and you can tell they just skimmed wookieepedia articles to find out why they thought X was bad.
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No.21093
>>21084
Seriously, pic related is never mentioned and it's from a book series consistently recommended as one of the first EU books people should read. Hell, there's also the previous book having Coran go undercover by pretending to be a male sex slave.
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No.21146
>>21084
>the Ewoks media and the Wookiee Holiday Special
i will hop in here for a sec just to remind y'all that these two were always on the "worst eu" lists even prior to disney, it's just that with the retcon, it made folk take a second look.
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No.21182
>>21146
>i will hop in here for a sec just to remind y'all that these two were always on the "worst eu" lists even prior to disney, it's just that with the retcon, it made folk take a second look.
Nobody said they weren't bad, but having just those two and Skippy are the easiest and most casual way to go about it. A decent well-researched list would at least have Jedi Search, and none of them do.
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No.21207
>>21182
fair enough, but those are well-known for the awful taste on the tongue they leave, hence being the biggest go-to.
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No.21679
>>20088
>>20072
What if he grew a beard?
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No.21738
>>19285
IF IT WASNT FOR GOOBER GATE NO ONE WOULD HAVE HATED MY SHITTY MOVIE!!!!
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