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 No.18635 [View All]

>1. Empire Strikes Back

This took what was great about Star Wars and expanded the palette aesthetically and narratively, proving to be the most inspirational Star Wars film.

>2. Revenge of the Sith

George Lucas' best directed film in the Star Wars franchise is perhaps the pinnacle of the Star Wars saga.

>3. Return of the Jedi

Ewoks aside, the first half hour and last half hour contain some of the best Star Wars/Star Wars OT moments.

>4. The Last Jedi

Anything I say here will be memed on.

>5. Attack of the Clones

More ambitious than The Phantom Menace - it reaches high, has more failures and more successes.

>6. The Phantom Menace

The Phantom Menace establishes it's own era pretty well and as a first entry in a trilogy is more enthralling than A New Hope.

>7. A New Hope

Despite being iconic, the other installments for the larger part are better produced and directed, and that's a good thing :^)

>8. The Farce Awakens

The opening five minutes is pretty good. The light-saber fights are shot pretty well, but it's too much of a copypaste design of A New Hope aesthetic wise and beat wise. If the script was truly original and the film's locations were alien and new to the Star Wars franchise, JJ could have possibly directed a memorable entry to Star Wars.

>9. Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

Fails to add anything distinct to the Star Wars franchise, despite decent visuals it's largely doing things that were done before and not doing them any better. One good Vader scene and one shitty Vader scene with poor dialogue and audio. The film is largely a mess, Felicity Jones can be jerked to is the only positive.

>10. Solo: A Star Wars Story

The only Star Wars film that most people really never wanted in the first place.

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 No.18640

>>18635

>muh ranks

This ain't /tv/, fuckwit.

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 No.18646

>ranking star wars movies

can't think of anything more boring

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 No.18648

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>>18635

>Anything I say here will be memed on.

That's going to happen by the mere fact that you started a Buzzfeed-tier top 10 thread, faggamuffin. Including the Soy Trilogy anywhere on the list is just adding insult to your self-injury. Putting TLJ in the top half and ANH in the bottom half is just silly.

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 No.18656

>1. Ashoka

>2. Mara

>3. Asajj

>4. Aayla

>5. Shmi

>6. Padme

>7. Leia

>8. Rey

>9. Rose

>10. Holdo

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 No.18657

>>18638

>>18639

But being alive means being messy, and it means every film won't line up exactly with what every fan is expecting or wants. I'm sorry TLJ didn't line up with your own certain pov, really, honestly I am. [May The Force Be With You]".

Get fucked TLJ hater

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 No.18658

>>18656

>Holdo

>10

She's hot af

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 No.18661

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>>18658

>>18657

>Holdo hot af

>rates a movie based entirely upon aesthetics

Now you're just being an attention whore.

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 No.18664

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Since this is an autism ranking thread I'll post my viewing preference for the feature films and made-for-TV movies.

>#1 Star Wars (1977) [watched dozens of times]

Can't beat the original. The pacing of the story and the buildup to the finale is excellent. All the characters are expertly introduced so you learn everything you need to know about them within three minutes of seeing them. I can watch it by itself any day of the week and feel satisfied.

>#2 The Empire Strikes Back (1980) [watched dozens of times]

A solid sequel that builds on the original. The pacing is good even though it slows down in the middle for some nuanced character interaction. The opening act on Hoth really immerses me into the setting faster than anything else. possibly my favorite lightsaber fight. Being two part story split with the next movie means I have to plan ahead to fit both films in when I want to watch it.

>#3 Return of the Jedi (1983) [watched dozens of times]

Another solid sequel. The pacing is similar to Empire with a nice buildup in the opening act with slower stuff in the middle but the ewok interactions drag a lot more than Yoda's scenes or the Han/Leia romance. Luke Skywalker, Vader and Sheev are easily the main attractions of this movie. It has my favorite space battle because of the scale and the music, I just wish there was more of that.

>#4 Ewoks: The Battle for Endor (1985) [watched twice]

This is a sequel that is shockingly good compared to it's predecessor. It's a dry run for Willow, so imagine the Hobbit book with a sprinkling of the Star Wars universe. I really like the alien orc costumes and the sound design for their blasters is pretty cool. The forest battle at the end is worth seeing by itself.

>#5 The Phantom Menace (1999) [watched more than a dozen times]

This is the prequel that has the most in common with the originals. It's a good straightforward space adventure movie with a handful of damning flaws. If everything in between the jedi escaping the droid battleship and rescuing the queen had been cut and Jar Jar wasn't in the movie it would probably be a lot more popular. Darth Maul was the face of this movie's marketing but has very little screen time and almost no dialogue which makes him a huge wasted opportunity when he could have been the Vader figure of the prequels. Easy to watch by itself and very nostalgic for me because it's one of the first movies I ever saw in cinemas.

>#6 Revenge of the Sith (2005) [watched more than a dozen times]

This is everyone else's favorite prequel. The opening act is excellent and if the rest of the movie had kept up that level of entertainment it would have been great. Just like Episode 2, the movie suffers as soon as Anakin and Obi-Wan are split up in two parallel stories rather than going on adventures together. George tried to cram at least three hours of storytelling into two hours of screen time which could be seen as a positive or a negative.

>#7 Caravan of Courage: An Ewok Adventure (1984) [watched twice]

A very basic children's fantasy movie. The main attraction of this movie is the visual design. The costumes true to the original movies and there are a lot of beautiful matte painted backgrounds that make Endor truly look like another planet rather than just northern California. The child acting is bare bones I think it's a step up on Jake Lloyd in the Phantom Menace.

>#8 Attack of the Clones (2002) [watched more than a dozen times]

Not a lot happens in this movie and when it does it gets shot down in the very next scene. For instance the opening scene is a solid start to the movie but grinds to a halt in the next scene with Palpatine and the jedi council talking slowly about what the audience just saw. The Tatooine part of the movie is probably my favorite segment but all the emotional impact is ruined by Anakin's murder confession. Contrary to what everyone expected when they first heard the title of the movie, the clones don't attack until the last twenty minutes or so.

>#9 Star Wars Holiday Special (1978) [watched twice]

This is a variety show where each scene would be more amusing if they were about half as long. I like Chewie's family, even his VR porn addicted father. The long segments of wookiees interacting without any subtitles or explanation are bizarre and feel like a wildlife documentary. It really doesn't tell much of a story, it seems more like an exercise in testing the limits of brand loyalty in the year between Star Wars being in cinemas and production starting on Empire.

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 No.18665

>>18664

And here's the Disney corner of shame although it's debatable whether Clone Wars belongs here.

>#10 Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) [watched twice]

This is a fast paced, tightly edited movie and I have to assume that's thanks to Ron Howard's film making expertise. If Lucasfilm ever paired Ron Howard with good writers and good actors then they might produce a movie that doesn't suck ass. Alden Ehrenreich has very little in common with Harrison Ford but might have been a passable protagonist if he was his own character. Woody Harrelson gives a consistently decent performance. Donglover is sporadically okay with a large helping of cringe. L3 takes you right out of the movie for about half an hour until her death.

>#11 Rogue One: A Star Wars Story (2016) [watched twice]

Rogue One is a movie with a vague plot and vague characters coupled with a decent attempt at replicating the aesthetic of the original trilogy. Jyn Erso is almost a non-character who is supposed to drive the story but it's easy to forget she's even there when she's not speaking. Cassian and the minor protagonists all suck apart from the droid who is passably entertaining. Krennic is all right. Tarkin is quite odd because he sounds about right but the CGI is very uncanny valley and he seems to be written as more shouty and overtly aggressive than the cold, calculating original. The Darth Vader scene at the end is okay but it's plainly obvious as a grab for nostalgia.

>#12 The Clone Wars Movie (2008) [watched twice]

This was very polarizing when it came out. The art style turned a lot of people off and I didn't get used to it until years after the show stopped airing. Anakin is a very different character which makes it difficult to mesh in between Episode 2 and 3 so I'd stick to Genndy's cartoon for that. Ahsoka is a very forced character in this even though she grew on people later. The plot is kind of dull with the focus on rescuing and then babysitting a child hutt. Not exactly the big launchpad for the show that George intended.

>#13 The Farce Awakens (2015) [watched once]

This is an almost scene-by-scene replica of the original movie with painfully dull characters. Where the Old Republic setting is Star Wars turned up to 11, the Disney sequels are Star Wars diluted to the bare minimum. The locations are generic desert planet, generic forest planet and generic snow planet. The costumes are almost completely undetailed; Rey wears white fabric on white fabric, Kylo Ren wears black fabric on black fabric, and Finn wears a black bodysuit with a brown jacket. The aesthetics and sound design suck and so does the music. The least Abrams could have done to please audiences would be to put Luke, Han and Leia together on screen at least once but he didn't even do that, and now Carrie Fisher is dead so we will never see that happen ever.

>#14 The Last Jedi (2017) [watched three times]

This is a masterclass in what not to do with movie sequels, Star Wars movies and movies in general. Rian Johnson artfully takes the tiny scraps of story development that The Farce Awakens coughed up and throws it straight in the trash before ripping apart the entire history of the franchise. The Last Jedi doesn't really have a plot, it's like a collection of scenes from a miniseries mashed together into a disjointed two and a half hour special. Lucasfilm thought they were finally powerful enough to drop the nostalgia pandering and burn Star Wars to the ground so that they could build a new more socially modern franchise but they overplayed their hand and are now paying dearly for it.

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 No.18666

KINO TIER

V: Empire Strikes Back

CINEMA TIER

IV: A New Hope

FILM TIER

VI: Return of the Jedi

MOVIE TIER

III: Revenge of the Sith

R1/Rogue One: A Star Wars Story

FLICK TIER

I: The Phantom Menace

II: Attack of the Clones

VII: The Farce Awakens

JOINT TIER

VIII: The Last Jedi

IX: ? (pre-emptively ranked)

Solo: A Star Wars Story

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 No.18668

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>>18665

<#14 The Last Jedi (2017) [watched three times]

<[watched three times]

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 No.18672

>>18635

>posts despecialized edition webm

>is okay with disney wars and the last jedi

I'm being meme'd on aren't I? Looks like you figured out how to remove the flag finally too.

I'm going to be ranking the main movies by trilogy, because fuck it- that makes it easier.

>1. The Original Trilogy

It set in place everything you love about the franchise, and is one of the best movie trilogies of all time. The special editions were alright, but was there really a need to withhold the originals?

>2. The Prequel Trilogy

Has a good overall story arc and is highly enjoyable most of the time, but is a little rough around the edges. Expanded the universe and created a resurgence of quality tie-in content. Managed the feat of making Jar-Jar as annoying to the audience as he was to the characters. Lessons were learned, Jar Jar promptly pushed to background role.

>3. The Ewok TV movies

They were alright, started kind of slow however. Probably my least watched because of how obscure they are.

>4. Christmas Special

Prepare to be bored out of your mind as you watch Chewbacca's home videos sold to you as a movie. Coherent plot, unlike TLJ and soylo. Introduced Boba Fett in somewhat decent cartoon clip.

>4. Soy Wars Stories

Rogue One was watchable, but replaced far better stories about how the death star plans were stolen. The robot is literally more human than the actual humans in that film.

Soylo isn't something I've watched yet.

>5.The SOYquel Trilogy

Disney turns the franchise into a dumpster fire of unoriginality and incomprehensible plot points. I'm going to save the franchise I Iove by killing the company I hate, fuck you Rose.

Expect episode 9 to be so bad it causes race riots.

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 No.18695

>>18657

>Quoting Rian's twitter word for word

I could almost swear you're Rian or at least related to him.

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 No.18722

>>18635

>4. The Last Jedi

>Anything I say here will be memed on

Try trolling a little more subtlety then. Find something actually good in the film to justify giving it praise rather than trying to convince people the shitty parts are actually genius.

>>18672

I find this aligns pretty well with how I'd rank them.i might be willing to move the holiday special beneath the Soy Wars stories as I thought Rogue One was passable, but I haven't seen Soylo

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 No.18783

>>18666

The Phantom Menace and the Attack of the Clones are the best Star Wars films ever made.

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 No.18784

>>18783

based

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 No.18788

>>18783

Unironically, Phantom Menace is actually pretty great if you voice over young Ani's lines with a better actor and cutout Jar Jar's scenes while he's on Tatooine.

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 No.18795

>>18784

>>18788

i think you misunderstand what anon said. he said they're the best STAR WARS films made, not films. there's a distinction between a movie and a star wars movie, and anon is right that 1 and 2 deliver what the ot could have only dreamed of back in its day.

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 No.18835

>>18661

Holda is hotter than the shit 2D trash you posted

>>18666

ANH is mediocre

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 No.18836

>>18722

>Find something actually good in the film to justify giving it praise rather than trying to convince people the shitty parts are actually genius.

Really ironic coming from you fags that praise most of the movies which are bad.

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 No.18838

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>>18835

>>18836

>Holda is hot

>Holda

>ANH is bad

Try harder laddy.

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 No.18843

>>18836

It’s a matter of perspective. Most people don’t find men’s asses erotic, but you do. It’s not really possible for us to have a conversation because your aesthetic tastes are too homosexual.

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 No.18927

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>>18836

>No I won't post anything good about the shitshow that I think is high art! The movies that are universally understood to be cultural cornerstones in America and really all of western pop culture are bad for reasons I don't have to explain.

Clearly not a troll. And if you're the same anon saying Holdo is hot, you must be the thirstiest simp I've ever seen. Or at least you would be if you were posting actual opinions and not just low effort bait.

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 No.19025

>>18927

>good art direction

>great editing

>better soundtrack than RO, TFA and solo

>better writing (i know this will trigger you)

>characters actually go through trials

>good effects

>good tone

>good direction

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 No.19026

>>18927

>cultural cornerstones in America

>in America

Lmfao

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 No.19030

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 No.19039

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>>19025

>uses greentext like a list

Honestly Rianfag, at least try not to sound like a complete idiot.

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 No.19045

>>19025

>good art direction

Won't disagree that there were some good visual aesthetics, but which Star Wars film didn't have that?

>great editing

Ok

>better soundtrack than RO, TFA and solo

Having better music than the other shitshows isnt saying much. Points for acknowledging the soundtrack doesn't exceed the Lucas films

>better writing (i know this will trigger you)

Saying that this will trigger me (surprise, it doesnt) doesn't make this statement any less wrong. Need u remind you that Poe prank called Hux? Rose's asinine little line about protecting what we love? I'm not going to claim every line of dialogue in the OT or PT were golden, but this is next level bad.

>characters actually go through trials

"Actually"? Are you suggesting the characters didn't go through trials in previous films? While the side characters may have had some (meaningless) trials, do you know who didn't? The Mary Sue. The one character who should have had trials did not. Unless you count needing Kylo to save her from Snoke was a "trial".

>good effects

Yeah, but which Star Wars film didnt?

>good tone

Going to disagree, but I guess as the middle film it should be the most depressed

>good direction

Rian Johnson a shit

So it was aesthetically pleasing. Not saying that this isnt important for a visual medium like film, but it was still a movie with an awful Mary Sue, a supporting cast boring characters, character assassination of Luke, terrible dialogue, pointless misadventures, a romantic rumor that didnt need to be there, and disregards the few plot threads that TFA set up that might have been interesting.

Now some of these problems are due to J.J. giving Johnson so little to work with due to the stale retread that was TFA, but it's still a bad movie.

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 No.19046

>>19045

This essentially. RJ is shit, but JJ is even worse and pretty much had no plans for the future or a solid foundation for anyone else to build upon.

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 No.19048

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>>18656

Asajj and Padme should be higher.

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 No.19051

>>18656

1) Ahsoka

massive power gap here

9001) Everyone else

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 No.19073

>>19048

Why does she have a lightsaber and why does she have my grandfather's knees? inb4 it's from having to hold up those massive knockers.

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 No.19082

>>19045

>So it was aesthetically pleasing.

Wrong. Brown mucus aliens, a red screen in Snoke’s room, piss poor choreography, bizarre color choices like white and red, ugly and unmemorable ship designs. TLJ having aesthetics is just a meme. The look is incredibly derivative, and what is new looks terrible and mocks what it derived from.

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 No.19084

>>18635

>ranking them per episode

Prequels > Original Trilogy >>>>>> Nu-Wars

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 No.19085

>>19082

Aesthetically pleasing is largely subjective. I will concede that, on a technical level, the film had some good framing and overall camerawork. The coreography in the fight scene was pretty good, I would even call it too good to the point of looking unnatural, but the prequels had similar problems in that regard.

Sometimes I kinda feel that people have a bizarre need to shit on TLJ in every possible regard, even the parts that don't deserve being shit on, most the technical aspects being one of them. It's shit, but it's well-made shit, and that's the one positive thing I can say about it.

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 No.19086

>>19085

>The coreography in the fight scene was pretty good

It’s awful. At one point a guy is ‘twirled’ and runs off the screen. They had to airbrush out a knife. The costumes are ridiculous. Rey and Driver look terrible.

>Sometimes I kinda feel that people have a bizarre need to shit on TLJ in every possible regard, even the parts that don't deserve being shit on,

I think you are trying to find positives in a misguided attempt to sound fair-minded. You don’t have to say something positive about a movie. It can be totally bad. Rian Johnson is totally bad at making movies. The technical quality is not good.

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 No.19087

>>19086

>It’s awful. At one point a guy is ‘twirled’ and runs off the screen. They had to airbrush out a knife.

Of course it's not perfect, but to be honest, I didn't even notice that.

>The costumes are ridiculous. Rey and Driver look terrible.

True, but that has nothing to do with coreography.

>I think you are trying to find positives in a misguided attempt to sound fair-minded.

I went into TLJ fully expecting to hate it on every level. I remember that I was actually pleasantly surprised by how good the movie looked in some places. It didn't look like a Star Wars movie should look, but I thought it looked good regardless.

>Rian Johnson is totally bad at making movies. The technical quality is not good.

I'm not sure about that. I've seen Looper, and I remember that being a solid movie.

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 No.19088

>>19087

Why did my flag reset?

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 No.19093

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>>19087

>I've seen Looper, and I remember that being a solid movie.

>>19088

It's an automatic change done by the board when the Alacrity demon detects an incoming shitpost.

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 No.19094

>>19087

Personally I prefer the more kendo fight scenes of the OT

>I'm not sure about that. I've seen Looper, and I remember that being a solid movie.

I honestly wonder how popular this sentiment is. Multiple sources have posited this as RJ's "good" movie, but I thought it was garbage. Maybe I'm just focusing too much on how poorly time travel was handled, but it was kinda central to the plot so I think I'm justified in my disdain. I understand that time travel movies require a lot of thought and are one of the harder scifi concepts to pull off, but if you aren't up to the task, do something else.

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 No.19237

>>19087

>True, but that has nothing to do with coreography.

Them looking like retarded actors in a lightsaber fight has nothing to do with choreography?

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 No.19250

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Why did you hate this again? GTFO

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 No.19251

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>>19030

>american culture

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 No.19252

>>19045

>Won't disagree that there were some good visual aesthetics, but which Star Wars film didn't have that?

The Farce Awakens, Rogue One (art direction essentially is direction as well and it was just another carbon copy of the OT worse than ANH2.0)

>great editing

Ok

>good direction

Rian Johnson a shit

Johnson edited and directed and the tone is certainly the only movie released under Disney that felt like a space opera soap opera type deal that was Lucas' star wars. IMHO.

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 No.19255

>>19251

>bumping this shit thread

>actual shitposting

>being a foreigner

Three strikes buddy, you're out!

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 No.19260

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>>19250

>posts a really shitty scene with bad coreography

>asks "why do you hate it" without forming an argument

>>19252

>art direction is the same as direction

>>19251

>moves the goalpost by bringing up burgers for some reason

Rian plz. If you're gonna try and be a contrarian hack, at least try and take some time to focus on some self-reflection to see where your defenses fall short and (if possible) realize why no one ever agrees with you.

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 No.19272

>>19250

>>Luke creates a problem

>>Luke doesn't solve the problem he created

>>The audience is supposed to think Luke is wise

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 No.19386

>>19255

hell yeah brother

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 No.19462

>>19255

>being a foreigner

God damn why are you so mad?

>anchoring this on topic thread because you are all sad sacks who can't deal with different opinions

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 No.19508

>>19462

You seem more upset honestly considering you keep making this same exact /tv/-tier thread every time you show up. And the only one who ever bumps it is you, so that's probably why it got anchored, you faggot.

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