/sw/ - Star Wars

>>11120

Pissed since they ruined a perfect ending for her

The EU was pretty good about restricting time travel back in time to uncontrollable phenomena beyond comprehension, while being thrust forward in time is a well known and easily replicated but undesirable outcome. Even then most of it only appeared in early and weird stuff (Droids and a UK comic).

I'm amazed in 6 years they've managed to fuck up even that.

>I won’t leave you Anakin, not this time

>Oh, I guess I will

Does Disney understand character arcs?

>>11126

And there were those planet spirits who tampered with time a bit but nothing that really affects the natural course of things. Just putting things back as they were by bringing back Leia and sending some troopers to ancient times to be eaten by ancient aliens so its like nothing really changed. But what Rebels just did is just a huge fucking slap in the face to writing, conclusions and sense of continuity.

>>11129

Fuck, I wasn't done yet. Ahsoka being brought back in the cheapest manner imaginable. She was literally pulled out of an anus in the space time continuum. Time travel may have existed in only a few tales in the EU but it was never used to really change things or pull this kind of shit. It was just cutesy shit for droids or an interesting topic about the possibility of it, but this is just fucking ridiculous. And worse is the people defending it because "YAY AHSOKA IS BACK!!". Bullshit.

>>11126

>while being thrust forward in time is a well known and easily replicated but undesirable outcome.

Thats because its pretty mundane thing to do. You're doing it right now.

Why ruin Rebels only good moment?

Do we know if it was even real? I was wondering if Ezra was just having a weird Force vision thing while inside the temple? Maybe it was just some kind of test like the dark side cave on Dagobah?

>>11131

I know. That's my point. A handful of people being thrust forward in time a few dozen to a few thousand years changes nothing but has interesting story uses. Willful time travel changes so much of a setting.

>time travel in star wars

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>11148

We had if before with flowwank, remember? Also some a couple of cases all around the EU

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Time_travel#Confirmed_cases

>>11132

Actually… it was quite lame. I know, i know… cartoon for kids, but there is no proper dialogue, no emotional tension.

Ahsoka don't question for a moment what happened to Vader, like "Anakin… what happened to you?" or a simple"Why?".

>>11151

Flow walking isn't actual time travel though. Its more like just reliving the past via illusion but you can't do anything other than maybe alter someone's perception of it by leaving imprints. Also, none of those had a large impact on the flow of time itself other than to undo something that happened within a few hours, like Leia dying after arriving on that planet so time was rewinded back to exactly before she arrived there and some no name troopers were sent back millions of years where they ended up destroyed. Other examples are just people with no long-term importance being thrust forward in time without causing any real changes to the timeline.

>>11151

Almost all of those are people accidentally moving forward in time for various reasons, not intentionally jumping through a portal to go back and fix shit.

>>11120

Cant we use to save Mace Windu? We never saw his body…..

>>11120

That Star Wars has been fan fiction since Disney bought it.

>>11165

Please. This crap does a disservice to fanfiction.

>>11151

So if time travel is possible, can someone go back and reverse the nu-trilogy? Is that the plan? Rey goes back in time and kills Snoke in the past so Luke never becomes a huge faggot and she marries him and they have kids?

inB4 the portal thingy was what Darth Plagueis was talking about.

>>11164

I'm in the "Mace Windu survived camp" too. I don't think it was a coincidence that in the previous movie Anakin was shown jumping out of the speeder, falling a long way then grabbing onto another speeder. I think Mace managed to do the same thing when he was Force-blasted out of the window.

>>11177

Nah, he had been cooked by Force Lightning. He wasn’t grabbing anything.

>>11164

You know what I find so odd? Star Wars is not a stranger to bringing back dead characters but how come no one ever did anything with Mace Windu?

>>11178

He wasn't cooked, it was just 1 blast of it.

>>11180

Nigger are you retarded? If Pence used that much electricity on San Francisco the gay bars would not last the night.

>>11182

I watched it again and I misremembered. He was a bit cooked with a first long-ish blast before the second quick blast that knocked him out of the window. Still, Luke was hit with at least as much if not more than that and got back up afterwards. I still think it's possible that Mace survived.

>>11183

But keep in mind that Luke also hadn't just had his arm chopped off. While there are force techniques and abilities that could be used to stave off shock and enable one to survive a long fall. I find it unlikely he was able to make use of those powers with the split second before he was sent flying out the window

>>11190

not that guy but it's a long way down, plenty of time for mace to recoup and recover.

>>11165

i've read and seen plenty of shitty fanfics and they're all better than anything produced by disney.

>>11183

Palpatine was toying with Luke, who managed to deflect a little of the blasts (according to the novelization) before the emperor dialed up. Mace received the full brunt of it to the point of his skeleton appears.

>>11194

>Palpatine was toying with Luke

Even after he says "Now young Skywalker, you will die." and zaps him non-stop for 20 seconds?

>Mace received the full brunt of it to the point of his skeleton appears.

And so did Darth Vader. He only died because his life support was fried.

>>11196

As i said, he started dialling up his zapper with that.

>And so did Darth Vader. He only died because his life support was fried.

Not only that, Palpatine attacked Vader with the maximum level, at once. If he used the same intensity with Luke as he did with Vader; Luke would have died in the spot.

With Mace, Palpatine set his zapper to kill.

>>11197

>Kanan be replaced with Ahsoka in time for the Rebels finale, and also in time to prop up their new TFA-era show

inB4 the new show will feature grandma Ashoka for the only reason that she's a strong female protagonist.

Is there any info on the new show, besides that it will be set between the OT and TFA?

>>11197

Lmao, time travel and time altering in Star Wars.This is an excuse to say Luke didn't really get killed off in The Last Jedi because people hated it.

>>11210

I sincerely doubt Mark Hammil would be up for that after what they did to him the first time around. Unless he's still under contract somehow it's not going to happen.

>>11197

I haven't been watching this shit, how the fuck does Aladdin here even know who Master Yoda was?

>>11199

So you are claiming that Palpatine was lying when he said Luke was going to die and he didn't really use much power? There's no way Mace was dead before he was blasted out of the window. Even Vader didn't die until however minutes later and like I said I'm convinced it's just because his life support was fried.

>>11196

>Even after he says "Now young Skywalker, you will die." and zaps him non-stop for 20 seconds?

Palpie did the same thing to Maul. It's to show him how powerful he is and that he doesn't really want him dead… yet.

>>11217

>Palpie did the same thing to Maul.

I don't remember that part in The Phantom Menace.

>>11219

He's referring to the lore breaking CW cartoon you pleb.

>>11220

Which episode? I've seen them all (including the 6th season) but I can't remember that part. (Seriously, not mocking like the last post.) And The Clone Wars is actually canon.

>Unlikeable character everyone cares about for some reason

Is Ezra going to turn out to be Rey’s Dad or something stupid like that?

>>11222

>Ezra's a nobody

>Rey's parents are nobodys

OH NO NO NO NO NO

>>11221

It's during the Mandalorian story arc in the later seasons.

>not going back in time in real life and stopping The Last Jedi from being made, among many other things

>>11197

>Ezra is supposedly brought here as some kind of jedi test because he has to accept that he can't alter the past to save Kanan after he sacrificed himself to save everyone and comes to terms with his loss. This is all undermined by the fact that he also alters the past to save Ahsoka from sacrificing herself to save everyone and there are no negative consequences for that at all. In fact saving her was the only reason he didn't get Sheeved.

Some people just hate the concept of backwards time travel, or at least of altering the past, and don't want it in any of their stories. I'm not down on it to that extent, but it bothers me when it's not treated consistently. You can't have a story where you go back and change something important and then have it be all like "lol you shouldn't mess with the flow of time and stuff." Either have alteration of the past or don't, or at least give us some very specific (and likely very difficult to achieve) criteria on how it can happen, but whatever you do, don't vacillate between respecting the past and changing whatever you want.

As for how time travel works in the old EU, the idea was that the Force's will prevented substantial alterations to the past. However, since the Force is created by all living things, if you had control of all living things you'd presumably be able to change the timeline because your will would replace the will of the Force. This is one possible outcome of what Sheev was trying to do with the Alter Reality spell. It's also worth bringing up Kreia, who tried to outright defy the will of the Force, which may or may not enable alterations to the timeline.

I adore Ahsoka and would resort to time travel to bring her back without hesitation were I to actually live in the Star Wars universe, but it's handled in a tonally inconsistent fashion here.

>>11226

The problem with time travel in stories is how it undermines all struggle when you can go back and fix it. Part of drama is consequences due to actions, and being able to erase consequences takes away any investment someone could have. Personally, media that is centered around time travel is tolerable due to the rules of the story being created with it in mind (back to the future, chrono trigger, T1 &2 depending on how you like your time travel theories), but shit that tacks in on as a get-out-of-jail free card really degrades the storytelling due to how much less thought is put into how time travel works as a minor plot element.

>>11197

>TL;DR Filoni wants to tie his force-wolves to the weird Mortis gods stuff from Clone Wars

The way they handled the visions from the future there was bullshit. Father basically caused the Galactic Civil War because he thought he should maintain the natural flow of time or some shit, knowing full well that it could have been prevented if Anakin had been allowed to retain his future visions of becoming Darth Vader. Force users get prophetic visions all the fucking time, so why was it so important for that one to be erased from Anakin's memory?

>>11227

>Chrono Trigger

I see you're a man of taste as well. Still, Star Wars isn't Chrono Trigger and it wasn't intended to have this. I think it's possible to insert alteration of the past into stories that weren't necessarily intended to have it to begin with, but anytime you have that, you have to establish firm limitations on it so you can still have drama. As far as I know, bringing Ahsoka back is the first instance of a deceased Star Wars character being resurrected through alteration of the past.

Even in Chrono Trigger, when Crono gets rekt by Lavos at the Ocean Palace, Belthasar tells the player that in order for the Chrono Trigger to perform resurrection, the deceased has to be important to the spacetime continuum. Why was Ahsoka so important as to justify bringing her back this way, other than the fact that the House of Mouse can't come up with a more appealing female character?

>>11226

>Some people just hate the concept of backwards time travel, or at least of altering the past, and don't want it in any of their stories.

Time travel and Star Wars is a bad idea in particular. Star Wars takes place in a timeless realm of thousands of generations stretching forward and backward. It’s missing the point completely.

I know precisely what they are angling for: they need to resurrect Darth Vader for the new trilogy. He’s the big draw, the mega star. You want him on the poster and toys of him on the shelves. By making baby steps with time travel you can get Darth Vader back on the screen. This is a game of chess by desperate Jews, and it was the first move in getting Vader back in Episode X.

>>11230

So does this actually count as altering the past, or did they just whisk Ahsoka forward in time right before she was about to die? If it's the latter, they can't use it to bring Vader back because if they wanted him as a villain, pulling him out of any point prior to the last moments of ROTJ would alter the past and pulling him to the future after he defected wouldn't bring him back because he was already dying.

>>11232

Even if they just grabbed Ahsoka before she died, there isn't really a compelling reason why the same couldn't have been done for Kanan, other than "lel teh force said so!"

>>11232

Even if they just grabbed Ahsoka before she died, there isn't really a compelling reason why the same couldn't have been done for Kanan, other than "lel teh force said so!"

>>11234

>>11235

I have an idea. Let's go back in time and make 8chan a website that functions correctly. Then again, some things are impossible even with time travel.

>>11225

I found a clip on YouTube. I don't know why I couldn't remember this part at all. :/

>>11217

>Palpie did the same thing to Maul. It's to show him how powerful he is and that he doesn't really want him dead… yet.

I watched the clip. He literally says "Don't worry, I'm not going to kill you. I have other uses for you." as he's zapping Maul. That's the complete opposite of him saying "Now young Skywalker, you will die." before he zaps Luke for the last time. The "toying" with Luke would be the previous zapping.

>>11230

>I know precisely what they are angling for: they need to resurrect Darth Vader for the new trilogy

I need to do more research (not because there's a lot or it's hard, I don't know, it's just health issues) but I'm pretty sure George Lucas actually planned to bring back Darth Vader in the sequel trilogy. Not by time travel though. (Or cloning, but now that I think of it maybe that was something else that could have happened later too.) It's even possible that JJ was planning to use a bit of what George planned and I guess technically still could in Episode IX. Although obviously Rian didn't even really touch on it in his movie.

>>11226

Right, but this isn't Ahsoka so she can die with the rest em

>>11197

> All these A New Hope and Empire Strikes Back lines

Doesn't this show take place before A New Hope? How is this temple echoing things that haven't been said yet to someone who is completely uninvolved in their conversations?

>>11230

Why do you even need time travel for this? Here, I'll write it for you.

> Episode X begins with Muh Rey getting her lightsaber stolen by another Imperial Remnant faction

> Takes time out from leading her successful Jedi academy to go get it back, alongside her best and brightest female student and their comic relief male

> She uses a blaster through the movie, whines about it

> Infiltrate a mountain base, definitely haven't run out of movies to copy and now resorting to the Thrawn trilogy

> Get down to the lower levels, discover a large chamber filled with cylendars

> Just in time for Anakiin to emerge from one

> Even though decades have passed and Obi Wan, Luke and Rey have all put their fingerprints all over it, there was enough viable genetic material on his lightsaber to make a clone

> Brief clash, main characters escape

> Anakiin dresses up as Vader and pursues them in a TIE Advanced X-20

> The base gets blown up, it knocks him off balance, takes a turbolaser shot to the wing that sends him spinning out of control, someone quips that it's not such a good trick

> Rebels fly off in victory

> Last shot is Anakiin climbing out of his wreckage and discovering Ben Solo is there waiting for him (Having survived that thing surely nobody could have survived in episode IX), lightsaber ignited and ready to throw down next movie

>>11222

That would almost make sense but Lucasfilm probably wouldn't go with it because Abrams doesn't want to explain anything from his empty mystery box. Rey will never have any context for her existence.

>>11230

Hopefully James Earl Jones won't be around to be exploited like that. He deserves so much better.

>>11243

Because it supposedly exists outside time within the living force or some bullshit. There's even some Kylo Ren lines in there but his voice changer mask makes him inaudible.

>>11213

I remember Yoda's model looking terrible in that show.

>>11229

I think how Genndy handled Anakin's vision was better since it was vague at first but as it goes on you see what it's meant to describe.

>>11221

>muh disney "canon"

>>11230

Figures they want a cheap mechanic to keep bringing back old characters while claiming that "the past needs to die".

>>11243

Nostalgiabucks, that and Rebels' setting feels pathetically small and limited. Literally only OT and CW characters are the only things that appear in this, and its probably not just because of the budget but by the fact that this show really cannot support itself on its own merits. It relies solely on big IP cameos to stay relevant and grab ratings which then serve as the sprinkles over this sundae of mediocre writing. No original content, no clever writing, no odes to classic EU (which even CW had from time to time despite its fuckery), no variety since the majority of the fucking story takes place on lothal. Only thing it did have was a very stingy budget courtesy of Disney. It only gets worse with the fact that the next show to follow this one is some tripe based on the new and shitty trilogy. It will probably as soulless as TFA, as pathetic as TLJ, as full of itself as Forces of Destiny (and Marvel comics) and as poorly conceived as everything else Disney has done with this IP.

>>11247

>>muh disney "canon"

No, George Lucas canon. Only he can declare what is Star Wars canon and he declared The Clone Wars canon. Especially since he was actually directly involved with the Clone Wars stories.

Disney naming their new canon simply "Canon" is pretentious as all fucks.

>>11251

And? He said that Greedo shoot first. Now, if you find someone who consider that valid/canon/whatever…

George Lucas is will so canonic… that he sold it to Disney.

>>11252

>>11253

>>11251

There is no such thing as canon, it's just a scam to get money. We will live to see Disney declare its own movies as non-canon when they stop being profitable.

>>11261

This. Canon may have mattered once but now its just a label for cheap marketing gimmicks.

>>11229

I agree that Star Wars isn't Chrono Trigger, but the reason I brought those up is how the latter's story isn't cheapened by time travel due to all its rules focusing on time travel. CT's time travel is the main draw and constant focus is able to explain over the entire story why they have to keep bouncing around time instead of just heading to the earliest point and killing the villain. When you introduce such a powerful, universe changing ability into a series, it distorts all previous rules around it.

It's always possible to implement time travel in works not centered around it, but I think it's night impossible to get working because of one thing. The audience reaction ends up being "why don't they just use time travel to fix their problems?" no matter what rules are in place. Time travel is such an OP ability it makes everything else look pointless and boring in comparison. We've argued about the lack of motivations, stakes, or investment in the reboot trilogy, but what's there (or not) right now pales in comparison if they bring in time travel. They're not even going to use it for anything truly special or interesting. It'll just be some bullshit excuse for Rey to fight Darth Maul and Vader at the same time so marketing can make hype levels explode. IX will reach pandering levels that could only be topped by some kind of Marvel crossover and an admission that Disney has nothing else to offer. You only do these old villain teamups when everything else fails, and it's nothing but shitty callbacks in every series that does this gimmick.

>>11253

>George Lucas is will so canonic… that he sold it to Disney.

And when he sold it to Disney he was promised by them and Kathleen Kennedy that they would use his stories and that he'd still be the creative consultant. They lied. (Well, for the second part I think he may have quit after they threw out his stories.)

>>11261

>There is no such thing as canon, it's just a scam to get money.

That makes no sense. If it was just a scam to make money then George Lucas would have declared all the EU canon. Hardly any of it was declared canon. Disney can declare what they like, it's invalid as what they make isn't canon unless George Lucas were to declare it so. (And even then I'd be suspicious of them holding a gun to his head. Lol!)

>>11273

>If it was just a scam to make money then George Lucas would have declared all the EU canon.

It WAS canon, it was just ranked in tiers. Anything George said or did outranked anything done before or after. The novels were above shit like the comic books.

>>11274

Yeah, but proper canon was what George Lucas declared canon. The "tiers" were essentially the EU's likelihood of becoming canon. Also I'm pretty sure the tiers were a fairly new thing. I don't remember tiers being mentioned in the 90s.

>>11275

I remember wookiepedia had a page explaining the tiers back in the day, but I imagine that's been nuked to protect Disney when EU arguments come up. Any idea where to look?

>>11275

>>11276

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Canon

The page is still there, which describes the different canon tiers. Someone arranged them in a convenient pyramid infographic at one point but my search-fu is too weak to find it.

>>11276

>>11277

I still don't understand why Disney considers The Clone Wars CGI show as canon but not the 2D show. The last episode of the 2D show literally ends during the battle at the start of Revenge Of The Sith! Regardless of what Disney thinks, the 2D show is canon.

>>11278

>I still don't understand why Disney considers The Clone Wars CGI show as canon but not the 2D show.

Disney weren't the ones who made that decision, that was done when Lucasfilm was still under Lucas control. Really, the mere act of creating the CG show made Genndy wars noncanon, because the CG show directly contradicts the 2D in several ways, and adapts characters from it.

>>11279

No it wasn't. It was specifically Disney that said only the CGI was canon when they were announcing their "canon". I can't remember any contradictions. Remember that Season 2 (after resolving Season 1's cliffhanger at the start) jumps forward about 2 or 3 years. So the CGI show takes place in between that.

>>11280

>Remember that Season 2 (after resolving Season 1's cliffhanger at the start) jumps forward about 2 or 3 years.

Wait, what? The entire Clone Wars were only three years long, how could that happen?

>I can't remember any contradictions.

The one that sticks out to me is Ventress. Also, Anakin in Genndy Wars only became a Jedi Knight not long before the Battle of Coruscant, so you can't stick the 2D cartoon between two seasons of the 3D one. I haven't watched very much of CG Wars so there might be others but those are the ones that stand out.

>>11287

Is this supposed to be good?

>>11288

Yes. Read it.

>>11288

Read it for yourself and do not judge based on just two pages.

>>11287

>Canon isn’t real

I’d like to point out this is the approach star trek takes, and why people give less than two shits about any star trek novel. None of it is canon so there’s no commonality between novels. The ‘hurr fuck the suits’ approach pretty much makes any expanded universe impossible.

>>11312

Swolecard is a joke though, let’s be honest. Nobody thinks it’s canon or even close to canon. And that’s a good example because there have been mirror universe TNG novels (which predated the DS9 MU stupidity and had some interesting ideas in them). Swolecard Universe ignored those novels.

>>11315

>Yeah, well at least our shitty social justice reboot didn't pull in billions of dollars, and is in fact losing what little writing talent it had to the superior Orville.

You mean Orville is getting STD writers and somehow that isn’t a massive warning sign to you?

Orville is crap too fam tbh

>>11316

>You mean Orville is getting STD writers and somehow that isn’t a massive warning sign to you?

Orville isn't getting all STD writers, only the one ST veteran they had on payroll. Hence why I said "what little writing talent it had," I was >implying that most of the writing staff had no talent, and the one exception to that rule just up and left.

>>11315

>HOW?

>>11312

> As much as canon labels stink, its what makes people want to read something if it guarantees that this actually ties into the source material instead of just being a cheap time waster. And so far it seems to be working for Disney's new garbagre EU.

>>11270

>I agree that Star Wars isn't Chrono Trigger

With every new post in this thread, I come more and more to the conclusion that real life should be.

>>11318

>only the one ST veteran they had on payroll

Being an ST veteran isn’t a guarantee they’re good. I wouldn’t hire any veteran involved in that shitshow.

>>11321

https://archive.fo/mREE0

He wrote 'Darmok' and 'Time's Arrow.' Also, the episode he wrote for STD was the one where Mudd goes groundhog day on the crew. Hatewatchers of STD tell me that this was the least bad of the episode aired.

>>11322

>Darmok

Well that was good

>Time’s Arrow

Total shit

>Hatewatchers of STD tell me that this was the least bad of the episode aired.

This is like rating BLACKED episodes

>>11325

I think "least bad" means "watchable" or something.

>>11302

>that rant

Kind of let the despair get to your head, did you?

Isn't the idiocy BBT started beginning to mutate into something else?

>>11283

>Wait, what? The entire Clone Wars were only three years long, how could that happen?

Clone Wars (2D) Volume 1 (I got the name wrong before, they don't call it "Season") takes place immediately after Attack Of The Clones and Volume 2 takes place from not long before Revenge Of The Sith until right up to the movie. Like I said, the final scene is the battle at the start of Revenge Of The Sith. Also remember that each volume of Clone Wars is only about an hour long.

>>11280

>>11341

Some people say CGI Clone Wars took some parts of Genndy Wars. Ventress mentions the duel on Yavin or something not to mention Obi-Wan and Anakins designs are stright from genndy wars

>>11287

>caring about what faggot businessmen is suits say is official and what isn't

George Lucas isn't a faggot businessman in a suit. He's the creator of Star Wars.

>>11245

… i just realized that JJ Abrams writing is the storytelling equivalent of fiat currencies

>if we all just believe there is something in there then there is and its as amazing as you want it to be.

>>11344

This is meta level jewry.

He is jewing us with a fictional story (its a lie as it never happened and is thus nothing) and it has nothing new in it and its mysteries are literally an em0ty mystery box that tries to sucker you in with what could be inside

>>11343

George should just declare things canon or not canon. Every one would listen to him and Disney couldn’t stop him.

>>11346

I don't think George wants to do that, anon. The reason Lucas sold off his brainchild to the mouse was because he was tired of dealing with all the shit. Mostly that was impotent retards bitching about how the prequels "raped their childhood" or whatever, but I wouldn't be surprised if micromanaging the universe as a whole got to him as well. Chances are he doesn't want to get involved with any of the new shit happening, and just wants to live out his retirement, writing and editing screenplays for movies that will never get produced.

>>11347

I think he regrets selling. He gave all the money to charity. He called Disney ‘white slavers’ and had to apologize for it. I think he made a decision to sell after years of hearing how much he sucked, and like all things we love he didn’t realize how much it meant to him until it was gone. I think them rejecting his treatment and going with the shit they have has weighed on him. I also think he thought he was dealing with friends, and Kennedy fucked him over when Jew Jew rejected his outline.

Rumors are he’s looking to direct the Obi Wan movie with Ewan MacGregor. He apparently was shopping locations to film in Ireland in December. He wants back in.

>>11347

http://sfdebris.com/videos/special/hermitsjourney.php These videos here give another interesting take on the matter. Apparently he thought thanks to Disney's treatment of other franchises it would be safe to give it over. Boy was he wrong

>inb4 Chuck/e-celeb/etc

He's used the same sources everyone else knows plus a few others, so shaddap.

>>11346

>George should just declare things canon or not canon. Every one would listen to him and Disney couldn’t stop him.

He basically did. All you have to do is accept what George declared canon prior to the Disney sale and ignore what Disney declares "canon". He's made it pretty clear what he thinks of Disney "Star Wars" when he called them slavers.

>>11336

>Isn't the idiocy BBT started beginning to mutate into something else?

"Into something far more horrifying than we can possibly imagine" is what I would say, but its hard to imagine things getting any worse than they already are. Only thing that would get normalfags back into their original groove and out of our hairs would be some big event like WWIII to distract them from their petty day to day political shit flinging and media corruption. Either that or Hollywood crashing, but that seems even less likely than a war.

>>11346

Disney owns his balls now. He tried going against them by calling them slave traders and looked what happened. He whimpered away with his tails between his legs, same with Hamill. The mouse is insanely powerful.

>>11348

Didn't he give 80-90% of the money to the Board of Education or something? Funnily enough it was after that when the rate of trannies suing schools over bathrooms rose to an all time high.

>Obi Wan movie

Fuck I thought they cancelled that.

>>11355

>crashing

You're right, it'll tear itself apart before then.

>Disney is power

And yet, neither of their comments could be pulled. The mouse pointed a shaky gun to their heads. The mouse is afraid.

>>11356

>Obi Wan movie

>

>Fuck I thought they cancelled that.

I actually had an idea for a different type of Obi Wan movie with a different actor. (No, not Jude Law, although I actually think he would have been even better casting than Ewan for the prequels. He'a a better actor, although Ewan had got better than he was by Revenge Of The Sith.) But I don't want to say what it is and who the actor is (hint: he's actually already appeared in a Star Wars movie) until I get around to finishing my fan poster for it.

>>11310

>>11312

The reason that Star Wars worked as a massive universe to the scale that it was (and no other franchise did, or even rally tried..), was because it had a canonical hierarchy system where there was only one universal timeline of events. but this also only works if there is ultimately a singular person who is at the top of that system (who doesn't even have to micro manage every little thing either just the final say). the only other time this has happened really is tolkien.

>>11120

wh-why?

>>11362

Also, he wouldn't have to fake the accent like Ewan had to.

>>11366

Luke disappearing was actually Ezra traveling to the future and grabbing Luke to help him with something in the past. In Episode IX Luke will just appear back on the rock he was hovering above.

>>11367

>When Jedi vanish, it’s just Ezra pulling them out of time

>>11369

>When Asokha faces down Vader at Malachor she doesn't die

>Ezra bamfs in and abducts her, promising to pick up Vader in a few

>Due to temporal mechanics it takes him a few years later in Vader's timeline

>It was entirely Ezra's fault that Princess Leia got captured, tortured and got Alderaan blown up

>It was entirely Ezra's fault that Lando lost his mining operation on Bespin

>It was entirely Ezra's fault that Boba Fett and Jabba got killed

>It was entirely Ezra's fault that Kyle O'Ren was even born

Ezra Bridger - galactic screw-up extraordinaire

>>11371

If only he had pulled Han out of Leia

>>11367

lol, star wars is so gay now

>Disney is now sending out trial balloons to see what people think of using time travel to fix their fuckups

Unless this involves going back in time in real life and making it so Disney never owned Star Wars, forget about it. There are instances of time travel being injected into settings that didn't have it before and actually working, but Disney doesn't have what it takes to succeed at that. Remember Ocarina of Time? I'm surprised nobody's brought it up yet. It's probably the biggest instance of that happening because it's often considered the best game ever made, but the difference is that the Zelda games Nintendo made before OoT were also good games, whereas Disney's tenure with the Star Wars license has seen it produce nothing but garbage.

>>11360

This. When they completely threw the system away, it took away what made Star Wars unique and accessible. Only thing that comes close now is Tolkien and maybe Warhammer, but that's going to shit too thanks to Amazon's greed and GeeDubs' endless supply of assburgers (+greed).

>>11366

I can imagine the butthurt in the comment sections of those news articles from TLJ/Nu-EU shills who want TFA and TLJ to remain unchanged and be acknowledged as masterpieces that should not be erased from time. Still, I hope they do it because:

1: Endless butthurt from Disney loyalists who don't want the nu-canon to be changed (despite them always telling us that our old canon didn't matter).

2: Rey, Poe and Finn fags who want their precious new characters to be the center of everything and don't want them erased from time.

3: People who rightfully acknowledge that time travel being used to fix mistakes is always a dumb idea.

4: Their fucking Nu-Canon getting raped would be like sweet delicious irony and karma all in one since its likely they'll bitch about how precious "continuity and canon" is despite never actually giving a shit about it when it was our old canon.

>>11385

>Warhammer

Warhammer never really had clear and established tiers of canonicity for its novels, vidya, and other expanded content though. GeeDub's official position was "everything is canon, but not everything is true," handwaving any contradictions in the lore as a result of bad intel and/or Imperial propaganda. Don't get me wrong, I love me some Battle-mallet 40 million, but its universe, while vast and fleshed out, doesn't have that same easily-accessible continuity of Star Wars. Also Black Library is a massive circlejerk between GW cocksuckers and talentless hacks, with only a couple exceptions like Sandy Mitchell and Dan Abnett.

>>11386

>3: People who rightfully acknowledge that time travel being used to fix mistakes is always a dumb idea.

>implying altering the timeline so Disney never owned Star Wars isn't the most intelligent Star Wars-related idea anyone can have

It's still interesting to see Disney fucking themselves though, because there's nothing they can do now. If they decide to use time travel to change what happened in TFA and TLJ, that would be them admitting they fucked up. If they go for one of those "travel to the past but fail to change anything" stories and present a moral that you should live in the present instead of trying to alter the past (which is bullshit, but I digress), that will alienate the old fans even more because they already decanonized decades' worth of EU stories, effectively doing exactly what they said you shouldn't do. There is the theoretical third option of them managing to change the past in a way that doesn't lead to completely invalidating everyone's struggles, but Disney's writers aren't good enough to do that.

>>11387

There are a handful of others, but you're pretty much right. Are own Shoggy is one of them.

>>11388 (all hail the dubsman empire)

…That was only twenty-two seconds, and already I feel sickened. What the fuck? You are putting these words in the mouth of a child.

On another note, someone's not taking the latest episode well for unrelated reasons.

>>11396

> Any inconsistencies that arose could just be easily brushed off by saying its history revisionism by the empire or the republic (or a third party) or simply a goof by Voren

Fair enough, but the difference I see is that Star Wars's EU made some effort to reconcile inconsistencies in-universe before using the propaganda hand-wave, whereas the default position for GW is the propaganda hand-wave, even within the official codices Newcrons are the obvious one, but there are more minor examples as well, not just the BL stuff. It all fits (mostly) under the same greater theme, but there's comparatively less effort to weave it all together.

>>11120

hey just wanna remind everyone in this thread that the Star Wars CG cartoons were never good and Ahsoka a shit

>>11406

I wish I had a bait pic from Star Wars right about now.

>>11406

While the CG cartoon is inferior to the 2D one, it still had a few decent episodes, unlike Rebels which is fully garbage. Ahsoka is shit, tho, that's a fact.

>>11412

I honestly liked it when tried to show the CIS as not being the defacto bad guys George set them up to be, too bad this was tainted by Dooku being portrayed as aimlessly evil and simply using them for Sidious' plans unlike in the comics where he genuinely believed in the CIS cause as he saw the Republic and Jedi as corrupt powers that needed to be rebuilt.

>>11411

>but she was good for wank material, as are all Togrutas.

Togrutas are just shittier twileks

>>11422

You misspelled superior very badly.

>>11406

I agree, from the previous lore raping and George boy meddling (Moraband, Bane being just a ghost with a Vaderesque suit, Dooku looking like an angry space jew, Maul being a hybrid with lots of brothers, Ventress being a dathomiri, all those "witches" stuff in contradiction with previous lore, Anakin with an apprentice (which simply goes completely against all his previous characterization and ROTS portrait) to that awful, awful videogame reverse grip.

>>11430

Ahsoka exists because of the Mandela effect. Somewhere, there's an alternate timeline where George Lucas decided to characterize Anakin differently in the prequels and when he went to create Ahsoka, he was remembering the alternate timeline.

>>11456

Shut the fuck up faggot.

>>11457

no u

>>11372

>If only he had pulled Han out of Leia

He actually did it's why we have emo mcebil instead of Jaina

t. Aladdin is what cause the timeline shift from the EU to DU

>>11430

>a planet must always and will always have one name despite it existing for thousands of years

the english language didn't even exist a thousand years ago

>bane being a ghost after he's dead

な に？

>>11465

>defending this shit

Found the Clone Wars fag

This last season of Rebels is proof Star Wars going down hill. Other than 2 shit video games.

This is from someone who actually enjoyed TFA and TLJ.

After Episode 9 I'm fucking done, it's becoming clear Disney plans to turn it into a comic series where every other line is a pun or joke. They'll tone down the spiritualism. New writers who come in will get to create pet characters that never die. This series will start to have the same problem Marvel and DC comics do, as you'll get too many characters that can't suffer bad fates because the fans will go on a rage campaign while the writers blast Disney on Twitter for forcing them to "hurt their beloved characters".

I'm only going to see Episode 9 because I just want to see what happens and so that I can pretend to hold a conversation with people.

The finale was shit. Dave Filoni is a hack.

And wow. On Reddit they are circle jerking so hard. Some people there are even saying this trash is better than TFA and TLJ rofl.

>>11465

Bane's ghost wasn't even real, he was just an illusion poofed up by Darth Sithious because George didn't want Sith ghosts for some reason, and when Bane does finally show up he looks nothing like he did in other media, just a cheap Vader knockoff. Even his unused model from the Mortis episode was accurate but it was cut out along with Revan's ghost because again, siths aren't allowed to have ghosts anymore.

>>11473

>The finale was shit. Dave Filoni is a hack.

Do not speak the name of that dirty Space Wolf.

>subjecting yourself to 9 just to have a conversation

Why go through such self-torture?

>>11474

Same thing those faggots did when TLJ came out.

<FUUUUG ITS EVEN BETTER THAN TFA AND THE OT! DOWNVOTE ANY WHO DISAGREE AND DELETE THEIR FUCKING POSTS!

>>11473

>This is from someone who actually enjoyed TFA and TLJ.

Opinion discarded.

So SW Rebels ends and they don't even show what happened to Aladdin, Thrawn and the space whales?

>>11473

>Dave Filoni is a hack.

No, he works for Disney's LucasFilm. He's a cuck at best.

>>11475

>Revan's ghost because again, siths aren't allowed to have ghosts anymore

>George thought Revan was a Sith

So Revan redeeming himself and becoming a Jedi (this is canon) doesn't mean shit? Why did the creators of the show even have Revan as a Sith Ghost?

>>11430

I still really do not get why /sw/ is so agasint 2008 Clone Wars

>COMMANDER REX

>COMMANDER REX

>COMMANDER REX

>REX WAS AT ENDOR

>REX WAS AT ENDOR

>REX WAS AT ENDOR

WHY DID YOU FUCKING HAVE TO DO THIS. WHY DID YOU HAVE TO MAKE ONE OF THE BEST CLONE CHARACTERS A REBEL WHO SURVIVES TILL ENDOR

>>11494

>They never did a Rex Vs. Cody episode

All I wanted was 2 clones to fight on top of a star destroyer while their clone genes were failing. Was that to much to ask?

>>11494

Why wasn’t Rex a commander in the clone wars anyway?

>>11494

Jesus christ, that's retarded. To top it all off, wouldn't Rex have a biological age of 70 by the time of Endor as well?

>>11497

Ashoka was the commander since muh instant Jedi ranks

>>11494

>based on Star Wars created by George Lucas

Meh… so it's just another fanfic. "Alladin meets Star Wars".

>>11500

>so it's just another fanfic

Same with the new trilogy.

>>11503

>name is Jacen

>probably has force powers

>Mom is important figure in rebellion

Uh oh

That autistic wolf shit was fucking awful

>>11494

>REX WAS AT ENDOR

So Filoni really used that shitty theory about that random white bearded extra in RotJ…

>>11494

>litterally did nothing with the clone troopers

Fuck this show

>>11494

Wait, seriously? This is how this garbage ends? For fuck's sake, what an atrocity. Worst of all they'll probably try to finish it via comics or novels, and nu-fans will defend it despite constantly bashing the old EU for "relying too much on novels on comics to tie up lose ends". Fuck Disney and its nu-SW fans.

>>11491

Siths aren't allowed to redeem unless they're the Chosen One apparently. Damn it George, I don't hate you but if it was between choosing you or Disney, I'd rather just have the franchise rest in peace or exist solely as a tabletop/vidya genre.

>>11494

>Endor shit Feloni suggested is now a thing

Fuck these cunts

>>11488

>So SW Rebels ends and they don't even show what happened to Aladdin, Thrawn and the space whales?

As if Disney ever intended this shit to have deeper meaning or actually have a meaningful story. This existed solely to sale toys without an ounce of love or creativity, just a lot of CW throwbacks to keep young nostalgiafags interested.

>>11495

I didn't even like Rebels or CW that much, but since Rex was basically Alpha, I would've killed to see Rex/Alpha and Cody duke it out, but even if it happened it would probably look as shit as anything else in Rebels. CW is almost 8 years old and it still looks and moves far better than Rebels.

>>11366

>the presstitutes calling on JJ to not only erase the nu-trilogy but to make it's erasure the triumphant finale to the trilogy

Sasauges

>>11503

>Twi'lek + human =human kid with green hair

Sure, that's how it works. Guess it's better than a twi'lek with a human skintone.

>>11474

>better than TFA and TLJ

Two hours of watching a pile of dogshit would have been better than TFA and TLJ.

>>11523

If we built a time machine and changed the past, we could get a timeline where the Jedi Knight series didn't get abruptly dropped after Academy. Then we could have Kyle Katarn back for real instead of a shitty ripoff.

>>11527

You mean bots and paid shills are going gaga over it.

>>11535

So this shit can't even follow CW's already shifty continuity… Despite that both hybrids in that show had lekku… Great fucking job Feloni…

>>11527

normalfags eat that shit up

>>11527

Just like how most gamers are terrible people who only live for CS:GO skins and Lootboxes so to are most Star Wars fans. Disney had almost no push back wiping out the cannon I invested years of my life enjoying and delving into, it wasn't the quality of the content, its actually the quality of the people who enjoy it. Most, either from normie peer pressure or following the narrative think /sw/ were 3 movies made more than 3 decades ago.

>>11494

Why do the Rebels have X-Wings this early on? Was there an episode about that?

>>11563

This is after Endor

>>11564

Are you sure for in that scene, "The Attack Never came to Lothal"? Why would the Empire care about Lothal after Endor?

>>11474

>Some people there are even saying this trash is better than TFA and TLJ

Well they're not wrong…

>>11544

>Sabine and Ashoka searching for Ezra

This is a joke right?

>>11467

>names could never possibly change

Found the Jew.

>>11544

>The entire Imperial garison of the planet packs up in five minutes andafter they all get killed

I hate how they trivialize the deaths of the troopers on SW Rebels. The rebels called the imperials back into the dome only to blow it up 5 minutes later. All these people died off camera. Even the death troopers die as fast as the random stormtrooper.

>Sabine and Ashoka searching for Ezra

Oh god, is that really the plot of the next animated show?

>>11591

>Oh god, is that really the plot of the next animated show?

Can't have those nasty boys dragging the girls down! Who needs to bring back Kanan so he can raise his son? Bring back the shitty Togruta who has nothing to lose back instead for no reason other than to make sure no male heroes are allowed.

What the hell happened to the episode(s?) that was(were?) supposed to tell the story of Rogue One from the Ghost's crew's point of view? They said that was going to happen this season.

>>11583

>Implying Basic is a short lived language that at some point during galactic history was broken or changed

>Implying Basic wasn't around from the founding of Korriban

>reaching this hard to justify bullshit changes to the lore that wasn't just George's to change

Found the fake fan who doesn't know shit about Star Wars.

>>11607

>reaching this hard to justify bullshit changes to the lore that wasn't just George's to change

It literally was George's to change. In the Star Wars universe he is God.

>>11606

I don't know if they were going to mention Rogue One, but for some reason I thought Krennic was supposed to appear this season.

>>11608

>defending George's half-baked decisions in CW

He decided Grievous should be a silly saturday cartoon villain that runs off every week a la Dr. Claw and Skeletor. He decided "true" Siths aren't allowed to have ghosts or even redemption unless they're the chosen one or their training was incomplete, he decided Alpha couldn't be a character and replaced him with Rex because he though he thought three characters whose names start with A would be confusing, he decided to make Hutts not hermaphrodites and Ziro could not be a stereotype after backlash over "homophobia" over the TCW movie (and Disney adopted this and loved it like the fags they are) among with many other asinine decisions.

>>11623

>boo that George, amirite?

Hyperspace into a nigger stormtrooper, yidsneyshill.

>>11626

The other guy took it over the top, and RLM is and always will be talentless hacks, but you have to admit that once in a while, George's autism is just a little too much to handle.

>>11626

>criticism of Lucas stupid meddling and decisions equals to endorsement of Disney

>durr hurr you jew

Are you retard or just pretending?

>>11628

>I didn’t ruin Star Wars by being an impossible to please asshole

No, you did.

>>11621

I definitely remember Dave Filoni (I think) saying that Rebels would include the events in Rogue One from their point of view. Plus of course Rogue One had the Ghost and Chopper in it along with General Syndulla being called on the PA system. That confirms that they were involved with at least some of the events in the movie.

>>11623

>He decided Grievous should be a silly saturday cartoon villain that runs off every week a la Dr. Claw and Skeletor.

What did you want him to have General Grievous do during the Clone Wars? Get captured and held prisoner at the earliest opportunity, then escape just before Revenge Of The Sith?

>>11671

Did you not watch Genndy's take on him?

>>11671

>being this much of a pleb faggot who only ever watched CG Clone Wars

>thinking anyone wants Grievous captured

Have him basically be like Ventress. Shows up from time to time, is an actual threat, gets a few victories here and there and have him be almost as badass as in GW at least until Windu crushes his lungs. But instead Grievous became everyone's bitch and loses horribly every fucking time, and the very few times that it looks like he wins, its because he did it in the most cowardly fashion imaginable (like stabbing a really dumb kid in the back) before running off like a pussy with his tail between his legs and shaking his fists while yelling "I'll get you next time Kenobi! Next time!". He couldn't even defend his own fucking house. Even Gungans easily fucked his shit up (and they barely fucking tried). George even described him as a massive coward who shouldn't ever win and made him even more pathetic than his movie counterpart.

>>11690

WHY

>>11690

Until the very end they couldn't even hire more than a handful of voice actors and fucking Steve Blum to voice every fucking background shit in the galaxy.

>>11690

What's with the space whales? Where'd they come from?

>>11699

>What's with the space whales? Where'd they come from?

And why didn't the Rebels just make one hyperspace through the Death Star?

>>11695

>>11702

There is a very, very small ray of hope: That Thrawn and Pellaeon, the two grand men of the later Empire, were merely VOIPed into a different point of hyperspace. But I wouldn't count on it.

>>11699

>>11700

According to the nu-lore, our space whale "friends" are the source of hyper drive technology and where the galaxy got the idea to make hyper drives because they can go into hyperspace.

>And why didn't the Rebels just make one hyperspace through the Death Star?

Because Disney loves shitting in the bed.

>>11702

They wanted to trick oldfags into thinking their shit mattered and trick them out of their money and it worked, and some older fans are even defending this mess… Thrawn was reduced to a joke for this.

>>11703

According to some shitty new guide book, he and Aladdin survived. Fuck. Also, to anyone who thinks the nu Thrawn novels were referencing the Vong, it was probably not. It was probably those shitty "nameless Outer Rim aliens" that Supreme Leader Snorkel belonged to.

How was ‘rebels’ not about a band of rebels being killed off? Filoni is a fucking moron.

>>11710

Go fuck yourself, I meant insofar as undoing something ridiculous done to these characters.

>>11715

That's more than a little ridiculous. I'd thought it was in some kind of stellar formation like Thonboka.

>>11704

>According to the nu-lore, our space whale "friends" are the source of hyper drive technology and where the galaxy got the idea to make hyper drives because they can go into hyperspace.

That's really stupid.

>>11690

So Aladdin was important enough for the emperor himself get himself involved and for some reason even bother to put a nice facade, costed a whole SD fleet, a planet who was a source of ore, even more an ore used in the DS… and then fine minutes later during the first Star Wars movie nobody considers the rebellion that important, Tarkin dismisses the Jedi as a long gone religion, the opening crawl is very clear that the rebels scored their first victory by acquiring the DS plans (as like pushing away the occupation of a system who got the personal attention of the Galactic Emperor himself and was an important ore site for the navy wasn't a victory important enough, a rag-tag band managing to liberate a whole planet from the Empire during it's apex).

Seriously, the writing quality of nowdays is getting worse and worse.

>>11728

>>11704

>spess whales teach the Galaxy hyperdrive

Fuck it. This is such poor writing that even my mother (who's never watched an episode) is calling bullshit (specifically, that this is STD tardigrade tier). She also called the survivability of the main cast as like a pantomime show. How can you study these things for hyperspace tech when they just seem to vanish into the aether?

>>11729

I honestly wanted to like Rebels despite it being Disney shit when it first came out because I thought it would be a simple tale of a small band of rebels doing their part against the empire and forging their own adventures and experiences while not needing to be part of the bigger picture to feel like they mattered. Instead we got the exact opposite. They were apparently instrumental and important all along because bullshit and everyone now knows who Ezra is, even the fucking Emperor, and almost every episode after the 1st season was just Clone Wars and OT references/cameos to cash in on CW babehs' nostalgia and normalfag nostalgia. They practically met every character CW had to offer. A whole freaking galaxy and somehow its population feels small as fuck thanks to that tight Disney budget. At least George was extremely generous with CW and Genndy Wars' budgets. And as you said, this new shit isn't even trying to stick to the OT even (as if deviating from the EU wasn't bad enough), Ezra and these band of backwater oute rim rebels somehow end up being some of the most important figures in the galaxy despite that they aren't remotely relevant to the leaders of the rebellion in the OT and even the Empire thinks the Rebels are a joke (which they were since it was the destruction of Alderaan and the DS that served as a motivator for the Galaxy to join the Rebels) yet this series portrays them as having committed huge fucking damages to the empire, even "killing" their grand admiral. Only thing that makes all of this even more ridiculous is that even in Seasons 1 and 2, this small band of backwater rebels were deemed such a nuisance that a freaking Grand Moff, an Inquisitor, a Darth and even the mother fucking Emperor had to come to Lothal as a warning, and even then the fucking Moff and Darth had to get their hands dirty over this mess. And all of that display of power and force to subjugate 5 puny rebels on a barely populated farming shit hole like Lothal (A FUCKING OUTER RIM WORLD)? Seriously? And Lothal went from being a simple little backwater Outer Rim planet to being the most important planet in history apparently because Disney's shitty budget didn't cover the creation of more planets.

>>11733

>How can you study these things for hyperspace tech when they just seem to vanish into the aether?

They'll never explain it or just say that they "studied them" and leave it at that. Aladdin is friend's with the fucking space whale king now…

>>11729

>Tarkin

What happened to Tarkin anyways? He was deeply involved in the story in the first two seasons, then *boom*, gone.

>>11736

He outlived his usefulness as a cameo.

>>11740

According to the shitty nu-lore, "Lothalians" are a "cultural" group of humans from Lothal. They are a race people with copper skin, dark blue hair and blue/brown eyes. Not many are seen outside of Ezra and his parents and two other dudes. So I can't say for sure if all of them wear this pointy burka shit. Not surprising considering how much hijab/burka obsession there seems to be lately. Spain had a nation wide march on women's day because muslim women were being "oppressed". This shit (especially this obsession with Islam) makes no sense.

Also, the Japs made a manga/webcomic adaptation of Disney SW story and its as tame and soulless as you can expect. Even SW Infinities let them write their own shit. They're just adapting Claudia Gray's fucking novels. This beautiful nipponese art is wasted on this trash, and worst of all the japs probably loved it considering they wanted to adapt it.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lost_Stars_%28webcomic%29

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lost_Stars

>>11734

It’s basically that Filoni can’t kill his characters coupled with feminism and a desire to rape the EU.

>>11693

>>11695

rae sloane defects though. she'd most likely make the show before isard

Guys, I figured out the real reason Ahsoka came back. She's going to be in the new Smash Bros.

>>11776

Rerolling for digits.

>>11769

On the basis that I have nothing but complete and utter contempt for defection stories since they're almost entirely poorly written, horribly contrived steaming hot garbage I'd be okay for her to be retconned back into being a fine upstanding officer for good.

On the other hand, when it comes to the mouse's crap I pretty much try to plug my ears and ignore it while burying my head in the good old stuff. Hell, they make TOR's writing look positively masterful.

>>11734

>after the 1st season

George Lucas was probably directly involved with that. (And according to Filoni seemed to be unofficially involved later too. For example he told Filoni he didn't want the Ysalamiri in Rebels like they were in the books as he didn't like the idea of a creature that naturally repels the Force. Although why did he OK them for the books?) I don't think he fell out with Disney until around May 2014 (when The Farce Awakens started filming) and Rebels season 1 had probably already been written and in full production by then. Remember that George Lucas was still employed by Lucasfilm as Star Wars' Creative Consultant from the time Disney bought it until some time before The Farce Awakens was released. Like I said, probably around the time it started filming.

>>11690

Of course they only put him into Disney Canon in order to be able to kill him off.

>>11607

<If the language never changes even one word then that means the billions of places/planets that no one might not have gone to or even heard of for hundreds or even thousands of years can't either!!

>>11473

>This is from someone who actually enjoyed TFA and TLJ.

Wow, you have shit taste, my man.

>>11494

>none of the rebels die

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>11703

>I hope thrawn is still alive so Disney can rape him some more

Is there anyone more pathetic than this poster?

>>11788

I'm sorry, I couldn't understand you with Kathleen Kennedy's strap-on in your mouth. Try taking it out and stating your retarded argument again.

>>11608

Not all of the lore was made by George faggot, Korriban was from Tales of the Jedi. There were other creators who worked on Star Wars, it wasn't just George.

>>11830

Learn to read

>>11720

>>11829

Technically Not-Kyle Kanan died. Which was pretty weak honestly.

>>11832

>Not all of the lore was made by George faggot, Korriban was from Tales of the Jedi. There were other creators who worked on Star Wars, it wasn't just George.

He's the one who gets to say what is and isn't canon. All EU is just professional fan fiction unless George decides he wants to incorporate an idea from it. And since he's no longer working for Lucasfilm it's all fan fiction since then.

>>11844

>implying canon even matters

>rebel alliance banner

George would even go back and retcon his own films constantly with each new special edition. And even said "fanfiction" would either receive his seal of approval of have direct input from him, as seen with the Vong material and the fate of Anakin Solo. Also I hope you don't seriously consider Disney's garbage remotely canon since even that is highest degree of fanfiction out right now made solely for the purpose of soulless cash grabs and nostalgia value (ironic that they still try to play the nostalgia angle in TLJ, despite how much they want to "kill the past") without even the slightest input from Lucas or EU writers. But to sum it up, I seriously hope you're not actually defending Disney.

>>11844

>>11848

Well that's a rather superficial overview of the EU, you plebs. EU referred to anything outside of the main six films, included material directly created and worked on by Lucas, the Ewoks movies, the Droids cartoon, the Ewoks cartoon, the Wookiee Holiday Special, some children's books, essential guides, even the precious CW among young kiddies, and much more. All of which were part of the EU label before the Disney buyout. And what wasn't done by George would have to be approved him, hence why there were non-canon stories within the EU, because he didn't approve of them, such as many UK comics, Infinites, Skippy and more.

>>11848

How do you interpret me saying it's all fan fiction since George Lucas left as defending Disney? Unless you think I prefer fan fiction to George Lucas' Star Wars??

>>11849

George Lucas "approved" the EU but did not regard it as true canon, apart from a few things. The Ewok movies and The Clone Wars are canon because George Lucas was directly involved, as you said.

>>11851

Well, by that logic nothing besides that is valid, unworthy of discussion and appreciation. Only what George Boy did and then Disney, since he endorsed them and transfered the rights.

And? Nobody gives a shit, since our dearest George Boy contradicted himself a lot of times, tweaked his movies to hell and beyond. Remember, he gave Anakin an apprentice which directly contradicted his own earlier movie which characterized Anakin just a knight without an apprentice.

>>11852

Yeah, but Disney and Kathleen Kennedy lied to him and he'd probably still be the Creative Consultant if they hadn't. And wasn't Anakin being given an apprentice a test? Plus it was during wartime so it was like "every Jedi does their part" type of thing.

>>11852

>Georgie Boy

Why such hostility, friend?

>>11857

There is none. I just like the sound of it. Our dearest George Boy, forever living in our hearts.

>>11855

Test? Maybe.. but there is not the slightest hint of it during the ROTS events. An apprentice isn't a such casual thing that everybody would forget just like that, specially Anakin, who was consistely depicted as someone who can't leave his attachments behind, that was the basis of his whole character. His rant on the council would not make a sense if he had an apprentice before.

Of course that's because the movie wasn't written with the idea of Anakin ever being a teacher, he was a knight who still hangs around with his former master. The whole apprentice came later with the cartoon, shoehorned and all. It was all Lucas doing, yet he was contradicting his former work, and the highest level of it, the movie. That's my point, the creator himself retconed his work endless times. There is no consistency in it if the creator keeps meddling and meddling with a finished work.

>>11852

Well put. George was no saint to be sure and he contradicted himself constantly, so to say there was any "true canon" (ie >>11851 ) is ridiculous as George himself did not even like to confine his own creations to a strict canon, doing whatever he wished and stepping in and approving what he wanted.

>>11851

I'm guessing you never read his quotes on Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the other stories in general.

>>11855

Except an apprentice goes against everything George set up for Anakin and said character clearly never even existed in the films. George even admits that she was created at the last minute for the sake of marketability so kids could use her as a self-insert and thus have her be relatable.

>>11860

>Test? Maybe.. but there is not the slightest hint of it during the ROTS events.

Obi-Wan and Anakin didn't reminisce about the events of Attack Of The Clones during Revenge Of The Sith either. What did you expect? A scene where Anakin says "Hey, Obi-Wan. Remember that Asohka chick you asked me to mentor, who left about a year ago? Have you seen her around lately?"?

>>11862

>I'm guessing you never read his quotes on Splinter of the Mind's Eye and the other stories in general.

He asked Alan Dean Foster to write that as a sequel that could be made cheaply just in case Star Wars flopped and he wouldn't have the chance to make the next 2. I guess he thought that if it did flop then pitching Splinter Of The Mind's Eye might keep Star Wars alive. Luckily he didn't have to.

>>11874

She never existed. Lucas himself said she was created on the spot to sell toys and make the movie more marketable. Also all that supposed growth that happened during CW sure as hell didn't show up in the RotS, and if Ahsoka was relevant in any way there'd be some reference to her on some level you disneyfag, like for example "Ani, you haven't been the same since you lost your apprentice - Padme" or "The jedi are certainly far from honest or caring, they distanced you from so many you cared for, your apprentice, your home, your mother…". But fuck Ahsoka as that's not what the others here were talking about. Its the total dismissal of all material simply because of personal analysis of what Lucas considered canon, and Lucas had no real canon other than what he thought would seem "cool" or serve as an improvement. Even the canon hierarchy of the EU showed which stories were most preferred and approved by Lucas, and those he himself dismissed were outright state as not being a part of his canon, such as Star Wars Tales, certain novels and the encounter between Maul and Obi-Wan.

>>11880

Indeed. Also I hardly ever say any advertisement for John Carter, as if they purposely wanted it to fail to prove some kind of retarded point. And despite that Carrie Fisher is the only one of the original cast who is actually dead, she is ironically enough the only one whose character survived, simply because they wanted more female role models. Hollywood has gone full retard with their political koolaid to the point where they are willing to avoid anything that's good by replacing it with cheap cash grabs or political soapboxing.

Why are so many using the Banking Clan banner? Is there something I'm not aware of?

>>11751

I can't believe there used to be people who wanted this schmuck to have more creative freedom. What a mistake.

>>11880

They call it "toxic masculinity". Its hardly new and its been a slow but painful decline because of it.

>>11881

There was apparently a Flash Gordon tv series as well, that I remember seeing one commercial for it ever despite watching its hosted channel. I also heard it wasn't good. In anycase, I can see meeting rooms where they took the worse examples and made that the main talking point.

>>11882

Its the first banner on the list if you hit the wrong button by accident.

>>11880

I really enjoyed the John Carter movie. Never could see why it somehow “failed.”

>>11881

I do have to wonder whether Carrie Fisher drugged herself to death on purpose as she just couldn't stand being part of Disney Star Wars any longer. Remember that the original cast signed up with George to make his sequel trilogy, not Disney's. They were just stuck in their contracts when Disney threw his stories out.

>>11887

>There was apparently a Flash Gordon tv series as well

It was awful. They changed Ming because they thought the original was "WAYCIS!". Which of course makes no sense. How is having a Chinese-looking alien villain with an outfit that resembles old Chinese clothing any different than having a European-looking alien villain with an outfit that resembles old European clothing?

>>11924

Carrie Fisher probably became victim of the Hollywood dope life again after being put back into the limelight. The pressure, the attention and stress was probably too much for her, not to mention all the crap Disney must've put her through to make her look younger. Wouldn't surprise me if someone over at a Disney party or something helped to get her hooked on drugs again just so she could perform in the new movies and be as obedient as possible.

>>11925

Rumour I heard was that no one in a position of authority at Disney ever stopped for a moment to think that maybe it wasn’t the best idea to stick a small, 60-something woman with a lifetime history of substance abuse on a shock diet/exercise regimen to rapidly slim her down for the movies.

>>11930

Or they did think it, but simply didn't care because sticking a "strong female rolemodel" into these shit movies was more important to them, and they figured they could get away with pimping out an old woman because she already signed the contract.

>>11834

Kanan was a Kyle clone for 1 season he turned into Rahm Kota

>>11931

They didn't even bother doing much with her though. She just stood around and gave a few orders. She barely had a larger role than Mon Mothma in Return Of The Jedi.

>>11935

That's probably by necessity. If she flexes too much all the plastic will start to fall off.

>>11935

And they drove Fisher to death for nothing. And speaking of Mon Mothma, she gets replaced by a purple haired dyke clone without even so much as trying to contact or get a CGI model of Caroline Blakiston's face and Chandrila ends up becoming San Francisco in space. Blakiston and her legacy as Mothma really got fucked over.

>>11943

Isn't Mon Mothma's actor still alive and actually quite amused by how big her five line character got in the EU?

>>11467

>Implying Korriban didn't already go by another name before the clone wars show even aired

<H-He just changed because Korriban sounds too close to another planet and thought people would get them confused!!

And Moraban doesn't?

>>11994

Yeah, that argument seems pretty flimsy to me. Korriban sounds too much like something else, but Tatooine, Dantooine, Klatooine are all kosher? Korriban should just stay Korriban, it's what everyone knows the planet as.

>>11996

>>11430

Pesegam > Korriban

>>11976

I don’t think the choice to not have the entire cast running around naked onscreen is ultimately to blame for the film’s perceived failure…

>>11988

Yes and yes, and she's great for it, but she's also incredibly old now. And Disney didn't even bother to give her or Billy any kind of attention. Still its for the best, at least they're not fucking sellouts.

>>12008

>Disney didn't even bother to give her or Billy any kind of attention.

>tfw there is no scene with the old cast reunited in the same room in Disney Wars

>>11874

>"Hey, Obi-Wan. Remember that Asohka chick you asked me to mentor, who left about a year ago? Have you seen her around lately?"?

She was a good friend.

>>12008

Fuck Nu-Wars

>>12031

Would've loved to see that, but sadly he was better off for it.

>>11214

>>11931

>>11222

>>11224

I've got a bad feeling about this…

Disney's Empire Strikes Back Super Special Edition:

>Obi-Wan: That boy is our last hope.

>Yoda: No. There is another.

>Obi-Wan: Oh yes, I forgot about Ezra.

>>11430

>Dooku looking like an angry space jew

Well it is based off Genndy's design which works better in 2D than it does in 3D.

>>11473

>Enjoyed TLJ

How?

>>11738

The last scene Tarkin appears in is as a hologram talking to Thrawn about appealing to the Emperor about his TIE defender program saying Thrawn's got a better shot at it than Krennic's Star Destroyer since he views it as a waste of money. Which is weird since the Star Destroyer was based off of the Tarkin Doctrine and even in Rogue One Tarkin is taking command of it from Krennic.

>>11749

a shota anon.

>>11757

>The dead deserve to rest in peace rather than have their corpses taken out of the grave, tie some string on them and then have them dance around in front of an audience at the beck and call of greedy and uncaring puppet masters.

Reminds me of an episode of tales from the darkside.

>>11880

Was John Carter any good?

http://archive.is/4aaaE

April Foooools

>>12853

This would be much better if it was true. Actually never mind, it'd be better if we went back in time in real life and stopped this entire fucking abortion of a trilogy from being made, among other things.

>>12853

I wish that was true because I want to see that franchise burn. They're so bad at storytelling that it wouldn't surprise me if JJ had this idea.

TFA had flashbacks, TLJ had retcons and Rebels had the stargate/time travel stuff as a deus ex machina, so yeah.

>>12358

>Which is weird since the Star Destroyer was based off of the Tarkin Doctrine and even in Rogue One Tarkin is taking command of it from Krennic.

Disney's new EU is still young and small as fuck and they're already doing a shitty job at maintaining continuity,

>Reminds me of an episode of tales from the darkside.

Great shit.

>>12853

If only this were true. It'd be the final nail in the coffin.

>>11120

Hooktube thumbnails work now?

>>12858

He probably did but decided to see how the idiot rabble would take it so he made it seem like a joke. If enough people liked it he would have used it.

>>12853

I would accept time travel to eliminate TLJ.

>>11494

>hera fought on endor

>by that time another crewmember was added to the ghost.

<she took her screaming shitting kid with her to warg

<she spent the last 9 moths preggers with her little mocha baby

<kept doing rebel things because i am a strong independent woman who doesn't need no baby daddy.

>>12890

I hope they don't, they don't deserve to use the old EU cannon. Why don't they make something up!

>>11921

The original books can't really be capitalised on because John Carter is old and talks about niggers and slaves in non-hateful ways. Slaves exist because they exist, can't have that when he's not trying to free them rather than treating them okay

>>11925

Stop white knighting faggot. She was an old drug addict. Those people don't live very long.

>>11623

>he decided Alpha couldn't be a character and replaced him with Rex because he though he thought three characters whose names start with A would be confusing

In the long run this spared Alpha from being raped by that shit show, so it was a good thing for Alpha fans.

>>11366

This makes no sense. Luke willingly died (albeit in a deeply contrived fashion). Instead of using time travel, they should just have him return. Jedi becoming "one with the force" was always ambiguous enough that I could still envision certain immensely powerful figures in-universe crossing back over. Time travel opens up a whole can of worms that Disney's writers are totally ill-equip to deal with. Hell, one my favorite game series of all time - The Legacy of Kain - still failed to deliver on the time travel angle despite having a brilliant and consistent writer from start to finish. JJ has no hope of making something like that workable.

>>11494

Reminds me of KotOR 2's ending with Kreia/Ahsoka and Exile looking for Revan/Sabine looking for Ezra. Did Filoni steal from Avellone?

>>27994

>>/pol/

Why was the initial clone army made up of 6,000,000 clones? What did George mean by this, did he want us to remember the six million?

>>28034

Because each part of the Galaxy already had a local military. The Clone Army merely acted as the elite that helped out in each of those quadrants representing the full might of the Republic

>>28034

It was 3 million though.

>>28083

Well don't worry, we'll have your 100,000 clones ready by next year. I'm sure you'll be quite please with your mighty army of 50,000 cloned soldiers.

>>28036

>time travel gets introduced

>proceed to bitch

Fucks forbid you losers are forced to watch Back to the Future

>>28312

You're overdoing the Alderaan meme. I can only be playful for so long before it goes completely stale.

>>28315

Evidently he got bored of making actual (if faulty) arguments when he realized that was backfiring.

>>28326

It's easy to abuse and if not handled properly can get confusing. Makes consequences and death cheap if you can just go back and change everything, even though theoretically the timeline you came from and the timeline you changed would still continue on regardless so nothing changed in the first place…bleh just thinking about it gives me a headache.

>>28336

Don't bother responding to him or any alderaanfags seriously. They've been doing nothing but shitposting and stirring up trouble in every thread. Seriously, where did all these fuckers come from? I try to have some Me-Time only to come back and find this mess. Did any of you fuckers post a link on reddit or something?

>>28337

The closest I've come is offhandedly mentioning to a friend that I had my eye on a certain EU fan project. The only other leads seem to be the anon who says he's in contact with Manda-LORE, but I have serious doubts that either would desire to make low-quality shitpost spam like that- that and the man undercover on Tumblr made a grave tactical error. However- we cannot forget that being a sister board to /tv/, we may have attracted a particular brand of obnoxious from that corner of the site.

I find it highly likely we may have an enemy from within.

>>28341

>>28340

I think I found the problem. Someone mentioned us over in the 8chan cup thread on /v/ and in the Hungry Games thread on /sudo/.

>>28340

Even when I talked to Manda-LORE I made sure not to mention this place. Chances are we have a /tv/ incursion, the only alternative is that the rianfag has friends and that simply isn't realistic.

>>28381

Is the Rianfag really one person?

>>28341

There was more than usual because the bait was more fresh, and so got more bites. I played along with him for a bit because it was more interesting and funny than "TLJ is Kino," which is just not an entertaining routine to engage with.

>>28395

Yeah, certainly. One guy having fun (or autistically obsessed, which seems unlikely here) can dominate a small board, just as the natives can engage with the hostile just as intently -which they did.