No.1305 
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So if a futa is fucking a regular women does that make it 2/3 straight and 1/3 lesbian or 2/3 lesbian and 1/3 straight.This question keep me up at night please someone answer!!!!
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No.1308
>>1305
A dickgirl is not a transexual, and the majority of what makes up someone's masculinity or femininity is in the appearance of the rest of the body besides the genitals. We can prove that with the thought experiment of fucking a guy with a vagina vs fucking a dickgirl. Fucking the guy with the vagina is roughly 3 times as gay, but not entirely gay because of the vagina, reasonably we might say it's 3/4ths gay. Then what times 3 is 3/4ths? 1/4th. So fucking a dickgirl as a 100% male is 1/4th gay 3/4th straight
Therefore we can deduce that if the man is replaced with a woman, in a way that parallels the fractional value used in the thought experiment for a man fucking a vaginaman, then a woman fucking a dickgirl is also in fact 3/4ths gay
I pray that you may now know peace
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No.1309
>>1308
Nope. Fucking anything with a dick is gay.
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No.1315
>>1309
Then it must also stand to reason that fucking anything with a vagina is straight. and yet fucking vaginamen is in fact super fucking gay
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No.1340
>>1315
>>1315
Dude... youre right. Well how do we determine exactly which part of fucking is gay? Obviously we want to do everything to avoid being gay while fucking big tittied dick girls.
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No.1362
>>1315
>could be fucking a woman but wants to fuck a guy with tits instead
gay
>could be fucking a woman but wants to fuck a guy with a vagina instead
gay
what about this is so hard to understand?
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No.1365
>>1362
However there's no implication that futas are transexuals in most cases. It's a girl with a dick, not the other way around. and how gay? 100% gay? 4/4ths gay might you say? Then fucking a dick girl is on the same level as fucking a hair-chested bear? What places all the importance on the vagina? Breasts are a secondary sexual characteristic, if a woman is flat chested (therefore lacking a sexual characteristic) and you fuck her is that also 100% gay on the same level as fucking a big burly hair-chested man? Or must we concede that there's different levels of gayness which must exist below 4/4ths or 100% by definition dependent on how closely one resembles a sex? 🤔
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No.1368
>>1365
Gay isn't a spectrum, would you say you're a percentage pedophile if you like girls to be shorter than you or prefer small tits or shaved pubic hair? Clearly not, theres a definitive thing that makes you a pedophile and thats wanting to fuck children rather than adults. Well same goes for gayness, if you'd rather fuck a "woman" with a dick than an actual woman then you're gay, if you'd rather fuck something that looks like a man but has a vagina than an actual woman then you're gay. If you were heterosexual then you would want to fuck women, end of story.
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No.1369
>>1368
So fucking a woman with a vagina who happens to have a dick above it is on the same level of gayness as being fucked in the ass by a burly hair-chested man. You know when you put it like that.... it doesn't quite sound accurate 😬
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No.1370
>>1369
Yes because you could choose to fuck a woman with no dick but prefer the dick, thats what makes you gay. Heterosexual men aren't aroused by dicks.
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No.1372
>>1370
We must be working with different definitions of 'gay', because your definition precludes the possibility of bisexuals. Someone who prefers to fuck women 99% of the time but likes to fuck guys 1% of the time is 100% gay? come on son
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No.1373
>>1372
The definition of gay/homosexual is "sexually attracted to people of one's own sex", wanting to fuck guys for 1% of your sexual encounters makes you fit into that definition just as well as someone who wants to fuck guys for 100% of their sexual encounters.
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No.1374
>>1373
I mean if we're gonna be pedantic and pretend that colloquial usages of words don't exist 🤔
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No.1375
>>1373
Of course there's gayness involved but it's not like there's a singular definition of gayness that precludes a spectrum of gayness
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No.1376
>>1375
>>1374
If you want to use the progressive eradication of labels where the only way to define a woman is someone who identifies as a woman and the only way to define a man is someone who identifies as a man and the only way to define being gay is someone who identifies as being gay then theres no point even having a discussion on what these words mean as to you they mean nothing.
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No.1377
>>1373
Put in other terms, being a bicycle rider may make you a cyclist, but there are different levels of cyclists. Riding a bicycle 24 hours a day is the same level of cyclist as riding a bicycle 60 seconds a day? are you suuuuuure?
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No.1378
>>1377
Being a cyclist isn't a spectrum, you either are or you aren't.
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No.1379
>>1376
Radical strawman into argument escape artistry. A tactic befitting of your crude oversimplicity I suppose 😅
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No.1380
>>1379
Demonstrate what sets your made up new age definition of gay to be different than that of a tranny that thinks they can be defined as a woman as long as they identify as one.
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No.1381
>>1380
Well in your strawman example there's an implicit premise that self-identification determines classification, when in fact sexual characteristics make up our consensus conception on what make up a man or woman. In the case of your gay definition (which isn't exactly new age, it coexisted as a colloquial everyday usage outside of dictionaries for like more than half a century lol) you're (fallaciously and pure sophistry due to spending too much time /pol/ing) implying that liking men makes you 100% gay. The fallacy? We mostly all agree that pure homosexuality and pure heterosexuality are mutually exclusive. But there are people who like women 99% of the time, and men 1% of the time. and according to your questionable framework such a person would be both heterosexual and homosexual
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No.1382
>>1381
You aren't the arbiter of what "We mostly all agree" on. Bisexual is the word for someone who is both heterosexual and homosexual at the same time and according to your completely unfounded framework that you assert is agreed on by most people based on absolutely nothing its impossible for a bisexual person to exist because one cannot be homosexual and heterosexual at the same time in your eyes.
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No.1383
>>1382
Great we're making some progress. So we agree that someone who wants to fuck men and women are both heterosexual and homosexual
So you agree that liking chicks with dicks is straight if you also like to fuck regular chicks
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No.1384
>>1383
No because in reality if someone has a dick they're a man, if you'd rather enter the realm of fantasy then you can't use definitions with a basis in reality and have to instead rely on common sense and common sense would dictate that a person who likes both male and female genitalia is bisexual.
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No.1385
>>1384
Wait but you said
>"Bisexual is the word for someone who is heterosexual and homosexual at the same time"
In other words someone who's straight and gay at the same time. So that must mean that someone who likes to fuck men only some of the time is straight 😯
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No.1386
>>1385
Straight and heterosexual are not synonyms like gay and homosexual are, when you call someone straight you're defining them as someone who only likes the opposite sex where as you can call a bisexual man gay for getting buttfucked by another man and it make sense even if hes fucked plenty of women in the past.
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No.1387
>>1386
I already cited wikipedia I can keep going. You're speaking on definitions but there's a mysterious absence of citations on your part
Heterosexual doesn't mean straight? Interesting... 😬
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No.1388
>>1386
But hey, not to worry because even if we disagree on straight vs gay. We can at least agree that someone who likes to fuck men some of the time is heterosexual
Bisexual too!
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No.1389
>>1387
>>1388
Heterosexual means having an attraction to the opposite sex like all your citations have shown, I've never disputed that someone that likes dick girls can be heterosexual, the point of contention is that you think they're straight despite being aroused by the primary sexual characteristics of the same sex.
Even your vocabulary.com websites definition of straight says "sexually attracted exclusively to members of the opposite sex" which obviously excludes bisexuals which is what people who are into dickgirls are by definition.
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No.1390
>>1389
Well ignoring that
>Even your vocabulary.com websites definition of straight says "sexually attracted exclusively to members of the opposite sex" which obviously excludes bisexuals
>Bisexual is the word for someone who is heterosexual and homosexual at the same time
is contradictory in argument and also ignoring that there's basically no source anywhere that delineates between straight and heterosexual (surprise surprise, they mean the same thing just like literally everybody who's not trying to force blatant sophistry knows), heterosexual works fine here. Wanting to fuck both sexes? pretty gay. but don't worry, it's also heterosexual
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No.1391
>>1390
If heterosexual and straight are synonyms then explain why one specifies exclusivity and the other does not.
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No.1393
>>1391
lol you're flip flopping. You give a definition of bisexuality that directly contradicts the definition of heterosexuality that you switched to. You just got done talking about how you don't dispute that people who like dickgirls can be heterosexual
But anyways, the truth is that the vast majority of dictionaries and definitions *don't* specify exclusivity. It's not defined that way on Oxford, Merriam-Webster, any citation of Wikipedia, Cambridge, Brittanica, or Dictionary.com
Also, lazy argument. How about one source citing a delineation between straight and heterosexual? Just make sure you don't hold your breath while you're searching
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No.1394
>>1393
You're the one thats confused, I've never changed my definition of heterosexuality which is the one you've cited multiple times in this thread, "an attraction to the opposite sex".
A person who likes getting buttfucked by men can still have an attraction to the opposite sex therefore they can still be heterosexual by definition, but they can't be straight by definition because its defined as an exclusive attraction to the opposite sex.
All those sites you listed don't give a definition of straight regarding sexuality at all save for the one you cited earlier which specifies exclusivity and cambridge which simply says "not gay" which would also exclude bisexuals in a way that its definition of heterosexual (sexually attracted to people of the opposite sex) does not.
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No.1396
>>1394
>You're the one thats confused, I've never changed my definition of heterosexuality which is the one you've cited multiple times in this thread, "an attraction to the opposite sex"
Ah ok, so
>Even your vocabulary.com websites definition of straight says "sexually attracted exclusively to members of the opposite sex" which obviously excludes bisexuals which is what people who are into dickgirls are by definition
is just an irrelevant non-sequitur. Guess that's a suitable replacement for an actual argument
>but they can't be straight by definition because its defined as an exclusive attraction to the opposite sex
Source: Your ass. Literally cite this lol
>All those sites you listed don't give a definition of straight regarding sexuality at all
I know you're not this goofy. Literally everything I cited regarding the word straight was included as part of an entry on 'Heterosexuality' which is intrinsically about sexuality. Every source literally says 'heterosexual means straight' as does every search result on the fucking internet
>save for the one you cited earlier which specifies exclusivity
...which was one definition of heterosexual given on that site which asserted that straight and heterosexual mean the same thing, which flies in the face of your argument of "If heterosexual and straight are synonyms then explain why one specifies exclusivity and the other does not."
>and cambridge which simply says "not gay"
Included is an image showing that you're wrong while also once again including 'straight' as a synonym for Heterosexual. I don't think you're retarded, I think you just really hate gay people. I have no feelings about gay people, I don't even like futa, but if I did I wouldn't be intellectually dishonest to try to argue it, I'd just call them a fag or something
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No.1397
>>1372
Any guy who wants to fuck a guy at any time is 100% gay.
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No.1398
>>1397
Yea but I learned today that if they also wanna fuck girls they're also 100% straight
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No.1399
>>1395
I was just using your own source of vocabulary.com whos assertion you're referring to was a little opinion piece that includes "Our culture is slowly starting to accept that heterosexuality isn't the only acceptable sexual orientation" as if the whole planet is only one culture or they think only their culture uses dictionaries, either way they're a retard whos assertions shouldn't be taken as fact.
The differing definitions between straight and heterosexual speak for themselves and even in the common vernacular you would call a bisexual man gay for fucking a dude but you wouldn't go on to call him straight for then fucking a woman.
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No.1400
Any human with a dick, has ever had a dick, or looks like they probably have a dick is considered a man. If you want to fuck a man, then you are 100% gay even if you have previously ever fucked a non-man.
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No.1401
>>1399
So your source is the same website I literally just said claimed that heterosexual and straight mean the same thing. This makes a great case for your argument of
>If heterosexual and straight are synonyms then explain why one specifies exclusivity and the other does not
>The differing definitions between straight and heterosexual speak for themselves
You fucking idiot. You're literally citing the website that paired those two words together and gave them the same definition. and no reputable dictionary on the planet defines them that way, or even differently
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No.1402
>>1398
Being straight is like the number 0. It is the absence of gay. As soon as you add even 0.01% gayness, then you are no longer a 0 and are considered gay.
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No.1404
>>1402
I'm not even saying they're not gay. I'm just arguing the obvious reality of there being different levels of palpable gayness. How about an example. You're locked in a room with a 10 who has a microdick above her vaj, or you're locked in a room with a sweaty, hairy guy with a handlebar moustache that talks all gay. You have to fuck one, which one is gonna be less gay for you? Key word 'less'. There are degrees to this shit
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No.1406
>>1401
You just totally ignored my reasoning for why them claiming heterosexual and straight mean the same thing is irrelevant. This is the part you're talking about:
"Being heterosexual has long been considered "normal" in our society. When you think of a married couple or parents, it's usually been a man and woman — in other words, a heterosexual couple. However, being heterosexual is only one sexual orientation. Other people are gay, or homosexual. Our culture is slowly starting to accept that heterosexuality isn't the only acceptable sexual orientation. Another word for heterosexual is straight."
Now would you take their assertion that our culture is now accepting homosexuality despite the fact that anyone reading that can be from completely different cultures as a factual statement? If not then why do you expect me to believe the very next sentence is a factual statement that cannot be questioned?
Do you think cambridge isn't a reputable dictionary? Because they have completely different definitions for straight and heterosexual despite being listed as synonyms.
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No.1408
>>1404
“less gay” is still gay. Keyword “gay”. I have fucked a real girl with prominent clitorus and licked it like a tiny dick. Does that make me gay? She just had a plump clit.
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No.1409
>>1406
Ok faggots ive solved it.
Heterosexual is 0% gay.
Bisexual is 0.1% to 99.9% gay
Homosexual is 100% gay
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No.1411
>>1409
Whats even the point in the percentages when you're illustrating that it is indeed not a spectrum? Theres only 3 options, heterosexual, homosexual, or bisexual.
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No.1412
>>1408
I never said it's not gay ffs are you listening? I just said that. The fucking OP is about degrees of gayness. Which is what I was arguing
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No.1413
>>1411
The only spectrum is how Bi you are.
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No.1414
>>1412
>>1412
So is it gay or not to lick a huge clitted gurl?
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No.1415
>>1406
You tell me cause you came in here with the argument from definition. Is Cambridge the dictionary you're going with to make this argument? You're appealing to definitions without citations left and right so I'd like to know what you're settling on as your foundation
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No.1416
>>1414
You know I know that they make like fake dicks out of parts of female genitals but I'm not so sure I'm down with equating clits to dicks. Straight in my book
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No.1417
>>1415
You asked for examples of dictionaries that use differing definitions and I gave you some, I could probably find more if I kept looking but I've already proven my point.
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No.1419
>>1417
So to sum up your argument you found one dictionary with a subtle (possibly even unintentional) difference in definition between the synonyms and feel that the reputation of the dictionary legitamizes the distinction. Well that's good news that it's a reputable dictionary then to bring it back around to the original debate on the meaning of 'gay'
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No.1420
>>1419
>>1417
According to the parameters of this definition it seems like bisexuals would be excluded from being gay, which seems to run contrary to many of your definitions and the core of what you were arguing
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No.1421
>>1419
>>1420
Interesting how gay and homosexual actually do have synonymous definitions in this instance but not when it comes to heterosexual and straight. The fact that the colloquial use of the words seldom appear at all in most dictionaries should be an indicator that we're treading new ground here and perhaps we shouldn't be looking to dictionaries to provide the answer when they clearly don't know what the fucks going on themselves and seem to be spreading misinformation no matter which way you look at it as each one gives their own take.
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No.1422
>>1421
>The fact that the colloquial use of the words seldom appear at all in most dictionaries should be an indicator that we're treading new ground here and perhaps we shouldn't be looking to dictionaries to provide the answer when they clearly don't know what the fucks going on themselves and seem to be spreading misinformation no matter which way you look at it as each one gives their own take
and that's actually the point I'm driving at. Now we know that many things can be conceived as binaries or trichotomies (in the case of hetero, bi, homo). But lord knows there's different degrees to these things in practice. We say things like 'Lance Armstrong is another level of cyclist'. We can easily use definitions to force a binary here, but we know that there's different degrees to 'how much of a cyclist' Lance is versus some kid on a bike. Same way fucking freddie mercury in a shack with no AC while culture club is playing in the background is another level of gay than fucking some otherwise totally passable hermaphrodite who has a vagina, negligibly small micro dick thaf you don't notice, and who's otherwise a bombshell. Gay? For sure. But as gay as fucking actual hairy strapping lads? Realistically not quite
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No.1423
>>1422
Not having a definitive definition to point to in no way proves that gayness is a spectrum. Fucking a hermaphrodite doesn't even make you gay if you aren't sexually aroused by that fact, its when you're going out of your way to find "women" with dicks when you could be having sex with actual women that makes you just as gay as someone fucking hairy strapping lads because both of you are out looking for dick.
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No.1424
>>1423
You have to choose between fucking a dickgirl or freddie mercury, you can't kill yourself. Which do you choose?
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No.1425
>>1424
Fucking either of them wouldn't be gay because I'm not aroused by either of them. If someone forced you to fuck a kid at gunpoint would that make you a pedophile?
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No.1426
>>1424
Well am I dicking the dickgirl or is Freddie dicking me?
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No.1427
>>1425
Yeah it would, because you would be able to get hard under such a stressful situation.
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No.1428
>>1426
You're doing the dicking
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No.1429
>>1416
Well i mean her clit was bigger than most microficks and i totally sucked on it until she cummed in my mouth. Thanks for letting me know that wasnt gay - ive been worried that i might need to tell everyone i am gay because some girl with a big clit cummed in my mouth.
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No.1430
>>1427
>>1425
this guy isn't me and im not 100% sure what he means lol
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No.1431
>>1428
Well then its not gay and i would be dicking the dick girl. Getting dicked by freddie mercury is super gay.
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No.1432
>>1431
well you'd be dicking in both cases and honestly it's just a gay situation no matter which way you slice it. unfortunate, but very gay
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