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139153 No.13646012

These people don't seem too smart.

https://info.aiaa.org/tac/SMG/SCTC/Shared%20Documents/Terraforming-Venus_AIAA_Space2011.pdf

"so much oxygen could build up, the graphite would

spontaneously burn back into CO2, short-circuiting the process."

MAYBE, some of it, but IMO "life would find a way" and Venus atmosphere at poles off the surface can be down to -157C.

IMO a lot of that O2 would be reacting with surface minerals that haven't seen free O2 for billions of years, but have been getting Sulfuric Acid rain for billions of years.

Main thing is unlike Stupid Human Tricks on Mars, at least TRYING to seed Venus with some sort of GMO Algae would dirt cheap, even for the 1st 1000 attempts. In grammar school they told us if all offspring of two houseflies survive to reproduce, the Earth would be covered in flies 60ft deep.

Same gravity as Earth, with massive CO2, that regardless of what Global Warmers tell you is the real foundation of Life, even more that water, with a Day = One Earth Year that most Earth plants already run on with seeds and growing season, but on Venus the growing season would be 24/7 sunlight, just a good bit brighter than Earth, but not crazy. Almost like someone is trying to tell us something.

Fogg also points out that, even if it were possible to engineer organisms to sequester the carbon dioxide from the

Venus atmosphere, the process would take between eleven thousand and 1.1 million years,

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58be48 No.13646053

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“It would be far easier as far as terraforming a world to use giant silica based trees that could turn the elements in the ground into an atmosphere through the process of them growing at specific power points along the world natural energetic points as far a water flow and element convergences. Or you could cut them all down once done and build energetic structures of their fossilized remains as well as other materials of energetic consequence in homage as well as to maintain the reality.”🙃

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>>13646053

WTF did you get that quote from? But this isn't a skitzo thread, I'm pretty sure all those rocks have good explanations and if you get a enough odd rocks and plants, some will look like each other, mostly due to gravity and how stuff will form in piles or even craters.

Not sure WTF my link ain't linking but here is link to the link for the link.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terraforming_of_Venus#cite_note-11

Landis, Geoffrey (2011). "Terraforming Venus: A Challenging Project for Future Colonization" (PDF). AIAA SPACE 2011 Conference & Exposition.

"A “sweet spot” exists in the atmosphere of Venus, at an altitude at which the temperature is roughly similar to

that of Earth, and the atmospheric pressure is also similar to that of Earth. Figure 1 shows the atmospheric pressure

and temperature in the atmosphere of Venus as a function of altitude above the surface. The atmospheric pressure is

roughly equal to that of Earth sea level at slightly over 54 km above the mean surface, and the temperature is 20°C

at slightly under 56 km altitude. Near and slightly above these altitudes, the atmospheric pressure and the

atmospheric temperature approach those of the surface environment of Earth."

They say Venus has runaway Green House Effect, but if there is a Sweet Spot 35 miles up, and GMO airborne algae can reproduce by creating its own water, and needing little water due to high CO2, maybe the Algae would shade the Green House enough to reverse that runaway effect. O2 is 72% as dense as CO2 so if plants had flotation pods like picrel they could stay in Sweet Spot.

Lets remember that Earth didn't have O2 until life created it, and these guys say even when it started getting O2 the O2 was mostly sucked up by reacting with minerals on the surface, just like I said would happen on Venus. Also mentions O2 was largely reacting with Sulfur to form Sulfur Dioxide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geological_history_of_oxygen

I'm not seeing any Deal Breakers, in fact pretty much just the opposite. Seems rockets are well enough sorted out and G2G, so first step should be simulating Venus 35 miles up and see if we can get Algae to thrive and reproduce.

"Traditional GMO: Modifying crops for commercial use is a very expensive, large-scale undertaking, due to extensive regulatory approval (YEAH, we ain't gonna need THAT :)) processes and the costs of development and testing.

CRISPR: The CRISPR technology itself is famously inexpensive and accessible, which is why simple experiments can be done in a classroom."

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