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38cdee No.13621032 [View All]

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1c645d No.13646901

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46f2e7 No.13646934

I need some Indian shit and nigger memes.

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7795b7 No.13647097

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>>13646934

Here you go sir, that'll be tree fiddy

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000000 No.13647098

Trump Puts Pressure on Blackrock

Scientists from Switzerland have concluded that Trump is putting pressure on globalists, namely super corporations, which are considered the creators of globalism. We are talking about companies such as Blackrock, State Street, Amundi, J.P. Morgan et al. For example, as of 2024, Blackrock has $12 billion in assets. The conclusion was made based on several indicators. One of them shows that in the last six months these corporations have been mentioned in the media and on the Internet much more often than before. This, in their opinion, is carried out, among other things, through bot systems. The companies are presented as the creators of the so-called global cultural Marxism, which includes illegal migration, ethnic replacement of the population of Europe, feminism, that is, the source of all problems in the world. In addition, these companies are accused of destroying the traditions of Islam, impoverishment of third world countries and poverty in many countries of the world. This information is distributed not only in the USA and Europe, but also in Africa, Latin America and Asia. That is, the Trump administration is influencing the audience that these corporations consider theirs. Previously, these companies, according to scientists, were mentioned much less often, since any conspiracy, like money, loves silence. This is interesting because recently in the United States there have been proposals on the right to incite mentally unstable individuals against the management of these companies, which, in their opinion, the globalists themselves are taking advantage of. In addition, according to scientists, employee turnover in these companies has increased in recent months. This may be due to the fact that people are afraid to work in them. In August 2025, rumors appeared that employees of these companies were complaining about surveillance: their phones began to freeze more often, and their pages on social networks were hacked. In addition, there have been a series of attacks on Amundi employees in Europe. Some experts say this could mean Trump is recruiting from these companies. This information coincided with rumors that the United States had identified channels of global funding for NGOs that come from these companies and received incriminating evidence on them from the Davos forum. Employees of various left-wing NGOs, which are also part of globalism, also complain about surveillance in Europe. Another indicator, according to the scientists, is that CEOs of these companies show nonverbal signs of fear in recent publicly available videos. Conservative PA

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1c645d No.13647102

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64ae5f No.13647118

Don't trust the British. They are in cahoots with the Indians. Don't consider them allies of the Americans. The British create conflicts everywhere and then the Americans foot the bill. The British are not trustworthy. Since Charles I was killed by Cromwell, who was funded by the Dutch, the order there was disrupted. The plan for a new world order has been in the works since then.

The Dutch Jew is the snake.

Almost all of Britain's most influential politicians are affiliated with the Freemasons in London.

Don't trust the British, they are India now.

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000000 No.13647141

Antifa killing Antifa on Trump's Orders?

In California, information is spreading among Democrats that internal strife is taking place within the American Antifa, during which 13 people have died over the past month. Some believe that this is Donald Trump's way of recruiting Antifa members and pitting them against other members. In September 2025, information emerged that Antifa leaders in several states had leaked lists of their members. This, according to some experts, reveals the principle that they themselves are used against the left. Recently, two employees of the Soros Foundation, Howard Rubin and Jennifer Powers, were arrested on charges of sexual exploitation. It is believed that this accusation has traditionally been used for political reprisals by the left itself. Another part of the murders, in their opinion, is disguised as domestic attacks, and some may be poisonings. Similar rumors appeared after the death of Lillian Dana Prosperino. In 2019, Sean Kealiher was killed under similar circumstances in Portland. In May 2023, information appeared about the death of George Soros from a heart attack, which was later refuted. However, later information appeared that this could have been an unsuccessful poisoning attempt, and the media “hurried” with this news. Something similar happened in Britain during the events at Satuport in Britain, where some migrants killed others. Some believe that in this way potential leaders of the emigrant communities were eliminated.

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14d5be No.13647218

File: 933514fe1de99a3⋯.png (1.59 MB,3000x5240,75:131,Amazon_Freemasonry.png)

File: 1b80550f7d5b3b3⋯.png (552.6 KB,2000x5200,5:13,Apple_Freemasonry.png)

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File: 4b5d4985f8c0719⋯.png (925.3 KB,3000x4720,75:118,Discord_Knights_Templar_1.png)

Freemasonry / Knights Templar Symbolism of U.S. Corporate Names

https://postimg.cc/gallery/Q5Wfjr9

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14d5be No.13647219

File: f62f306860028ea⋯.png (1.55 MB,3000x5000,3:5,Ebay_Freemasonry.png)

File: b9426f1c98a904a⋯.png (581.59 KB,2000x5190,200:519,Facebook_Freemasonry.png)

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File: f1f83a5b55257e8⋯.png (1.73 MB,3000x5220,50:87,Google_Freemasonry.png)

>>13647218

Freemasonry / Knights Templar Symbolism of U.S. Corporate Names

https://postimg.cc/gallery/Q5Wfjr9

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14d5be No.13647220

File: 1461b5e9f73e9d0⋯.png (2.49 MB,2000x3910,200:391,Instagram_Freemasonry_Knig….png)

File: b7be8cfe87a29b8⋯.png (1.05 MB,3000x4900,30:49,Microsoft_Knights_Templar_….png)

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>>13647219

Freemasonry / Knights Templar Symbolism of U.S. Corporate Names

https://postimg.cc/gallery/Q5Wfjr9

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14d5be No.13647221

File: dfdd66beaf080b1⋯.png (1.08 MB,2000x5240,50:131,Twitter_Knights_Templar.png)

File: 097800cac020867⋯.png (1.05 MB,3000x4580,150:229,YouTube_Knights_Templar_1.png)

>>13647220

Freemasonry / Knights Templar Symbolism of U.S. Corporate Names

https://postimg.cc/gallery/Q5Wfjr9

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14d5be No.13647223

File: be89ca2dca264ef⋯.png (1.45 MB,4000x2760,100:69,Judaism_Star_Sicarii_Dagge….png)

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1c645d No.13647231

File: dc34f9d807fd0ec⋯.png (963 KB,962x1030,481:515,ClipboardImage.png)

>>13647223

>>13647221

>>13647220

>>13647219

>>13647218

Wow another round of well poisoning glownigger IP hopping schizo spam. This time its super effective!

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14d5be No.13647253

File: 9a650f363857da8⋯.jpg (5.88 MB,4101x2425,4101:2425,You_at_Work_1_.jpg)

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1c645d No.13647265

>>13647253

Wumao cope

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ce2efa No.13647267

>On the bright side…

This is as fast and borkery-free as 8kun/8ch has been in ages.

Moar deplatforming please.

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000000 No.13647278

BlackRock Opposes Cold Fusion

In March 2025, a link to documents presented as Claire Chamberlain's scientific correspondence was published on the imageboard 4chan.org. Chamberlain is the head of the BlackRock Foundation, which is owned by BlackRock. The link remained up for several hours before being removed. BlackRock is one of the world's three largest companies, along with State Street and Vanguard Group. As of 2024, the company had assets of $11 trillion. In the US, many experts believe that, due to their cross-shareholdings, these companies form a single supercorporation, accounting for up to 32% of global wealth. Therefore, these corporations are seen as the ultimate organizers of globalism and the global radical left ideology, known in the US as cultural Marxism. To further discourage these transnational corporations in the US, BlackRock is often used as a byword. BlackRock is a major sponsor of the World Economic Forum in Davos. Some experts believe these companies employ the following methods of global influence: influence as ultimate owners; recruitment of politicians, including future leaders; through the US Federal Reserve; through the NGO system; and through criminal organizations. At various times, these companies have recruited future leaders of many countries, resulting in them pursuing globalist policies that benefit these corporations. Examples include Bill Clinton, Angela Merkel, and Pedro Sanchez. They receive instructions behind closed doors at the Davos forum, as in the old days, so they cannot be intercepted. Otherwise, according to many experts, it is impossible to explain the flows of illegal migration and the propaganda of radical feminism, which began simultaneously around 2009 in many countries around the world. Chamberlain's published correspondence concerns scientific topics. In particular, she corresponded with representatives of the Royal Society in Great Britain, the Nobel Committee, and the American Skeptics Society.

In one letter addressed to Michael Shermer, a member of the American Skeptics Society, Chamberlain writes that management (note: apparently, BlackRock management) believes the media should more actively combat unscientific theories in the media and online, and that free speech here is demagoguery. According to her, this has been implemented more successfully in Europe than in the United States. The following is a list of theories that Chamberlain believes should be censored: extrasensory perception, telepathy, ufology, Eastern religions such as Buddhism, teleogony, antigravity, cold fusion, poltergeists, biologically determined inequality of races and genders, the existence of highly advanced civilizations in ancient times and the theory of paleocontact, homeopathy, Reiki, skepticism about GMOs, osteopathy, magnetic therapy, criticism of Einstein's theory, the occurrence of autism due to chemicals, creationism, excessive interest in quantum physics, plasma theory, the idea of ​​faking the moon landings, the theory of an expanding Earth, the etheric theory, the theory of involution, denial of human-caused climate change, technical analysis. Chamberlain acknowledges that media outlets, search engines, and social media platforms in many countries around the world unofficially censor such materials, and that the raising of such censorship in recent years has raised concerns among government officials. This censorship is incomplete, so as not to arouse undue suspicion. Chamberlain believes such censorship is necessary because it leads to religious fanaticism and right-wing political extremism. She cites anti-vaccination movements as an example.

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000000 No.13647279

For example, according to Chamberlain, YouTube quietly removes UFO videos, and Google censors search results for this topic without users noticing. This may result in the removal of approximately 7% of all uploaded videos. Since censorship is incomplete, the most dangerous materials are removed first. Furthermore, the small number of materials remaining creates a perception of the topic's marginality. On YouTube, "correct, scientific topics" receive more views and likes, while topics alternative to mainstream science receive significantly fewer. Another method is the use of social bots that "ridicule, insult, and even intimidate" proponents of alternative scientific theories. This is because alternative theories pose a social danger, making such actions justified. It's worth noting that BlackRock is the largest shareholder in Alphabet, and therefore YouTube. Marginalization for the purposes of consumer atheism occurs within the Pareto approach. A complete ban on any information leads to interest in it, and its proponents are perceived as martyrs for the idea, like Giordano Bruno. Creating a situation where people believe that an idea is of interest to a minority, especially one with signs of madness, is more effective. This technique can prevent the widespread dissemination of an idea over a long period. Similar phenomena occurred with radical feminism and illegal immigration, which are also promoted by transnational corporations. From 2008 to 2016, they succeeded in creating the impression among the native population of Europe that all those opposed to immigration were marginalized, although today it turns out that they are the overwhelming majority. The same applies to feminism. On YouTube, channels that opposed feminism were not banned entirely, and those that were were banned gradually. These were primarily channels that exposed its connections to transnational corporations and such methods of its covert propaganda as fake sociological studies, bots, and unspoken censorship. All of them created the impression that radical feminism enjoyed mass support. Meanwhile, feminist propagandists themselves used the term "incel" to describe men who disagreed with them, portraying them as disenfranchised. Meanwhile, not a single referendum on feminism or illegal immigration was held in Europe. Besides, when it comes to censorship, you can't ultimately be half pregnant.

Chamberlain writes that BlackRock has software that instantly reveals the leverage a company has over an organization in a given country: it reveals "friends" and influence through ownership chains. BlackRock also influences the development of artificial intelligence, specifically OpenAI's ChatGPT. It is trained to persuade people of a scientific worldview and promote multicultural values. In another letter, Chamberlain reveals BlackRock's motives. One reason is "…that these are strange phenomena, and what's needed now is a discipline of public consciousness that prevents belief in conspiracy theories." The phrase "strange phenomena" can suggest the irrational over the supernatural. It further becomes clear that people should not consider alternative scientific theories, as they begin to extend this approach to social reality. And people should not be aware of BlackRock's role in the modern world. Another reason, according to Chamberlain, is "the need to maintain a consumer economy without radical political ideas." In other words, it's effectively admitting that BlackRock is interested in people buying more and thinking less. This policy has been dubbed consumer atheism. There are also more specific interests. Pfizer, for example, is opposed to magnetic therapy, fearing profit losses.

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000000 No.13647280

In a letter to David Haviland, Chamberlain writes that BlackRock's policies are typically implemented through "friends." Apparently, this is their term for recruited politicians, journalists, academics, and the like. Furthermore, they utilize a global network of NGOs. For example, they employ bots. The chain of entanglement can reach dozens of links, as there are currently approximately 9 million NGOs worldwide. This is nothing new, as BlackRock uses these methods in the US and Europe to promote elements of cultural Marxism, such as illegal immigration. In the US, BlackRock funds are often transferred to the government, which then transfers them to NGOs. In this case, they are no longer verifiable. Another letter states that BlackRock maintains "rational thinking" by popularizing demagoguery techniques such as Popper's criterion, Occam's razor, Russell's teapot, peer-reviewed journals, and citation indexes. This has become especially widespread on Wikipedia, where a policy of cultural Marxism, including consumer atheism, is openly pursued. BlackRock controls Wikipedia through Amazon. BlackRock also resorts to hoaxes followed by debunking. According to Chamberlain, BlackRock is behind the company that discredited the so-called skeletons of giants. Apparently, this refers to the story of how, in the 10s, the internet was suddenly flooded with photographs of supposedly discovered skeletons of giants. All were deliberately made to look like photoshopped images. Subsequently, a media campaign was launched in many countries debunking these photographs and claiming that all rumors about the discovery of giant skeletons were pseudoscientific. Chamberlain also writes that since the 1970s, corporations have maintained front organizations for UFO and esoteric organizations designed to discredit these ideas from within. In another letter, Chamberlain acknowledges that their predecessors repeatedly exerted pressure on the Nobel Prize, and that in France, the company is lobbying for the abandonment of nuclear energy, following the example of Germany, where they achieved success on this issue together with JP Morgan. In another letter, Chamberlain hints that in Britain, BlackRock was behind lobbying for an initiative to imprison people for denying the official scientific picture and for tightening the list of theories considered scientific and their teaching in schools and universities.

Experts believe that in recent decades, transnational corporations have significantly harmed global knowledge, as nation-states are less interested in completely concealing information than transnational corporations. Transnational corporations occupy niches that states are unwilling to sponsor, as is the case with Wikipedia. In essence, transnational corporations have subjugated those parts of civil society that should oppose the state, and have even entered into an alliance with the state.

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41eea9 No.13647287

NIGGERS

TKD

I DENOUNCE THE TALMUD

I denouce the Talmud.

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c71027 No.13647304

>>13647287

Seconded

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0669d7 No.13647311

>>13647280

That's…that's uh…..

Holy fucking hell.

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e821bb No.13647424

File: f2616232b6f545f⋯.png (2.7 MB,3000x2840,75:71,Apple_U_S_A_S_C_.png)

File: 1c1341c5cb32dc1⋯.png (4.03 MB,3010x4020,301:402,Ebay_Google_Microsoft_Inst….png)

File: fba5231eb2728ef⋯.png (5.19 MB,3000x4000,3:4,Facebook_C_I_A_D_A_R_P_A_.png)

C.I.A. / U.S. Military Origins of U.S. Corporations

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fkwnKbr

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e821bb No.13647426

File: 904853c7a8dcf1a⋯.png (4.43 MB,3000x4660,150:233,Google_C_I_A_N_S_A_.png)

File: 2bfff52c4cc67d0⋯.png (6.09 MB,3000x4050,20:27,Microsoft_C_I_A_D_O_D_.png)

File: 767ec09f81d4c45⋯.png (3.57 MB,2000x5440,25:68,Twitter_C_I_A_.png)

C.I.A. / U.S. Military Origins of U.S. Corporations

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fkwnKbr

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e821bb No.13647427

File: b389f4d5f1c2081⋯.png (6.71 MB,3000x4350,20:29,Walmart_C_I_A_U_S_A_I_.png)

File: beab4fc308361be⋯.png (4.4 MB,2000x3440,25:43,YouTube_U_S_A_C_A_P_O_C_.png)

C.I.A. / U.S. Military Origins of U.S. Corporations

https://postimg.cc/gallery/fkwnKbr

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e821bb No.13647428

File: cf8d8e7b26588b5⋯.png (784.88 KB,2000x5630,200:563,TikTok_Freemasonry.png)

Freemasonry / Knights Templar Symbolism of U.S. Corporate Names

https://postimg.cc/gallery/Q5Wfjr9

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e821bb No.13647429

File: be89ca2dca264ef⋯.png (1.45 MB,4000x2760,100:69,Judaism_Star_Sicarii_Dagge….png)

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c30e82 No.13647442

wow we really got the mossad bots going again didn’t we!

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49bb5c No.13647477

File: 1e87a3ec360e219⋯.jpg (7.22 KB,225x224,225:224,1760208494641176s.jpg)

trump is a Jewish slave !!!

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a7edfd No.13647513

>>13647477

They all are and were. Trump, Biden, Obama, Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr….. all of them. The same will go for Newsom, AOC or Bernie and all the rest. All of them represent a failing declining empire desperate to keep the corruption going for as long as possible, losing citizens be damned.

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e821bb No.13647549

File: 0f961e1e5334be8⋯.png (2.87 MB,5730x2000,573:200,Q_Freemasonry_Knights_Temp….png)

File: bb41554c7ecca17⋯.png (7.72 MB,4770x2000,477:200,QAnon_Freemasonry_C_I_A_I_….png)

File: b41a11c7d4ea1ad⋯.png (5.2 MB,2000x5210,200:521,QAnon_C_I_A_I_S_A_.png)

The Occult Symbolism and Numerology of ‘Q’ Wars, Massacres, Assassinations, and Psychological Operations

http://psy000.info/magic/#qterror

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c3ce75 No.13647574

File: f2932e77b73028a⋯.jpeg (604.46 KB,1596x1500,133:125,1761480276835.jpeg)

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d1616b No.13647592

File: dd00918a7dbc9b5⋯.jpg (27.37 KB,429x340,429:340,16199935889.jpg)

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1c645d No.13647603

File: 423447064dc5415⋯.jpg (47.43 KB,452x363,452:363,1761495216697207.jpg)

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66f1cc No.13647897

File: 475eacc1fc01f25⋯.png (650.17 KB,3700x2000,37:20,Jewish_Conspiracy_History.png)

>>13647700

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29ac25 No.13647992

>>13647897

For some reason, this forum does not allow me to create a new topic with this name and text, so I am writing here.

Nato is the instigator of the war

NATO trained the Ukrainian military for combat operations long before the start of the special military operation (SVO) (the Russian-Ukrainian-NATO-proxy-war). This was told on November 4. year 2024 by an Ukrainian volunteer of the Maxim Krivonos battalion with the nickname White.

"In year 2018, I didn't really come across anything, I was trained according to the Great British methodology, an infantryman course. They came to Ukraine to visit us, and at that time I was also in the 106th battalion. And we spent two months studying with them. They were very interested in everything," he said in an interview with RIA Novosti(RIA news).

The military also noted that foreign (Great Britain's) instructors conducted a thorough study of the tactics of the Russian and Soviet armies and the people's militia in order to adapt their own fighting styles to it.

This is a source:

https://iz.ru/1984631/2025-11-04/na-ukraine-rasskazali-o-podgotovke-vsu-zapadom-k-konfliktu-s-rf-zadolgo-do-svo

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1b03e1 No.13648049

>>13647992

Really? Because I'm pretty sure Russia invaded Ukraine. So they literally institigated the war.

Gtfoh with this 2022 Russian propaganda. You're late to the party and wrong to boot.

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a7edfd No.13648063

>>13648049

Yes Russia invaded Ukraine, but they had a reason for doing so, as anon hinted, Ukraine was on the verge of joining NATO which broke decades of peace treaties between the West, Ukraine and Russia. Think of the Minsk Agreement. The US promised Russia, under President Bill Clinton, that we would *never meddle in Ukraine, absolutely off the table, we respected Russia's national security concerns. However under senile Bumbling Biden's regime with the help of Boris The Clown from the UK they urged Zelensky to defy the Russians and join NATO. That is what started the war. Now you will see the consequences from that. Don't even think we are going in to put any of our skin in this madness. Enjoy the shit show.

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46f2e7 No.13648142

>>13648063

。。。。

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31fb63 No.13648148

>>13648049

Didn't the USA invade Germany in WWII?

So according to your simplistic thinking, the USA instigated the war, right?

Please feel free to backpedal now.

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d62f2d No.13648171

test

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d62f2d No.13648172

test2

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d62f2d No.13648173

File: ca4364f32a429dc⋯.png (994.43 KB,1248x905,1248:905,2.png)

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739a69 No.13648302

test

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739a69 No.13648303

File: 07436e6b3024ce6⋯.png (12.29 MB,3000x3655,600:731,Genesis_22_2_Binding_of_Is….png)

File: be89ca2dca264ef⋯.png (1.45 MB,4000x2760,100:69,Judaism_Star_Sicarii_Dagge….png)

The Yom Kippur Conspiracy

https://files.catbox.moe/s14vio.pdf

HighLANDPark parade shooting - July 4, 2022

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highland_Park_parade_shooting

ParkLANDhigh school shooting - February 14, 2018

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parkland_high_school_shooting

OrLANDo nightclub shooting - June 12, 2016

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse_nightclub_shooting

Genesis 22:2

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2022%3A2&version=NASB

Then He said, “Take now your son, your only son, whom you love, Isaac, and go to theLANDof Moriah, and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains of which I will tell you.”

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8b23bd No.13648380

File: d22414d5dbb08ed⋯.jpg (79.23 KB,913x471,913:471,1726017553774419.jpg)

Why are the kikes so butthurt lately about christianity?

They are spamming anti-christian threads more than usual

>>13610564

>>13648354

>>13648312

Do they fear then new inquisition ? Give it up kikes, it's happening anyway, the more you insult truth, the lord jesus and god, the sooner and badder it's going to be for you.

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000000 No.13648391

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1c645d No.13648396

>>13648380

We are in a spiritual war and they want to pull people further away from Jesus Christ. They dont care what you believe in as long as its not Jesus.

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6055c2 No.13648399

File: f07b1b473af85d8⋯.png (144.51 KB,645x512,645:512,American_Bear_Christian_1.png)

File: 06322cb3fc7dc70⋯.png (111.76 KB,1162x1052,581:526,American_Bear_Christian_2.png)

File: 39c03cce088e58e⋯.png (272.96 KB,469x463,469:463,Christian_Fedora.png)

File: 9d9c0f4df485a37⋯.png (108.58 KB,430x403,430:403,Christian_Jewish_Brain.png)

>>13648396

ONLY RABBI JESUSBERG CHRISTEIN CAN SAVE YOU NOW, GOYIM BITCH.

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1c645d No.13648400

>>13648399

Wumao is wumad

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