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https://search.brave.com/search?q=what+did+Roman+records+say+about+Masada%3F&source=desktop&conversation=099c133ad644879d8c70e7e0f372c5812614

"Roman records, specifically military inscriptions and tombstones, do not mention the Siege of Masada. While legionnaires frequently commemorated major campaigns like the Siege of Jerusalem on their gravestones, no such records exist for Masada, suggesting the Roman military viewed it as a minor, localized operation rather than a significant imperial victory.

This absence is cited by researchers to support the theory that the siege was much shorter than traditionally assumed, lasting only a few weeks rather than years. The lack of extensive artifacts from a long-term encampment further indicates that the Romans conducted a swift, precision strike to suppress the last rebel holdout and protect the lucrative balsam trade in nearby Ein Gedi, after which they departed quickly. "

So we know about details like "protect the lucrative balsam trade in nearby Ein Gedi" but not a single mention of the group and ethnicity of their enemy??? I've never heard of "balsam" in it original context, and I'm still not sure if they are talking about tree sap or vinegar.

Did "Masada" even ever happen, regardless of who the "bandits" were?

Supposedly the Jews found some Roman records but it rather mundane and nothing indicates any combat or siege before or after. I'm guessing it was first an Egyptian temple and lookout, then a Roman lookout.

Interesting thread on 4Chan about Nick VS The Professor on where Jews came from.

Some of this I haven't specifically debunked, so check back in a bit.

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/543356854/nick-modern-jews-are-same-jews-as-bible#bottom

Anonymous (ID: bwLeFLJx) 09/27/26(Sun)10:33:08 No.543376470▶>>543378441

>>543376023

>>543376023

## Part 1: The Linguistic Reality of Dr. Ian Young's Claims

Dr. Ian Young, a professor of Classical Hebrew, belongs to a school of thought called biblical minimalism, which tries to push the composition of the Bible as late into history as possible. For generations, the academic consensus has been that you can date books of the Bible by looking at the language. Books like Genesis or Samuel use Early Biblical Hebrew (EBH) from before the Babylonian exile (pre-586 BC). Books like Ezra, Nehemiah, or Chronicles use Late Biblical Hebrew (LBH), which features heavy Persian and Aramaic influences from after the exile.

Young argues that this whole system is wrong. He claims that:

* They Weren't Eras, They Were Styles: EBH and LBH were not two different chronological time periods. Instead, they were two competing styles or dialects of writing that co-existed at the exact same time.

* Textual Fluidity: Scribes in the Hellenistic period (3rd century BC and later) were constantly rewriting, adding to, and altering the minor linguistic details of these books.

* The Conclusion: Because scribes were changing the language well into the late Second Temple period, Young asserts that you cannot use the Hebrew language to prove a book is old. If a text looks like it was written in 800 BC, Young says a scribe in 250 BC could have just chosen to write in an archaic "antique" style, meaning the final form of the text we have was essentially fixed very late.

The overwhelming majority of biblical historians and historical linguists have heavily pushed back on Young's theories, viewing them as deeply flawed and counterintuitive.

## Part 2: Why Mainstream Scholars Reject the "Styles" Theory

The overwhelming majority of historical linguists have heavily pushed back on Young's theories. They argue his view is completely unsustainable for several major reasons:

* 1. Forging an Evolving Language is Nearly Impossible: Languages change organically over time in ways that are incredibly difficult to fake backwards. Early Biblical Hebrew tracks perfectly with Northwest Semitic inscriptions found on 9th-to-7th century BC pottery fragments and stone monuments dug out of the ground by archaeologists. A 3rd-century BC writer would have to perfectly mimic archaic grammar, syntax, and spelling while completely avoiding words from their own era—a feat of historical linguistics that simply did not exist in antiquity.

* 2. The Missing Words Smoking Gun: The most devastating argument against Young is the distribution of foreign loanwords. If the "Early" books of the Bible were actually edited or written in the 3rd century BC under the Greeks, they should accidentally include Persian or Greek loanwords. Yet, Persian loanwords appear only in the late books (like Esther, Daniel, and Ezra) and are completely absent from books like Genesis or Samuel. A 3rd-century forge-master would have to keep track of a massive philological blacklist perfectly across dozens of scrolls.

* 3. Dialect "Styles" Don't Work That Way: Linguists point out that languages do not maintain two vastly different grammatical structures as mere "literary choices" across centuries without one naturally overtaking the other or bleeding into it. The transition from EBH to LBH perfectly mirrors how natural languages evolve over generations due to geopolitical changes, migrations, and foreign empires.

## Part 3: Extra-Biblical Archaeological Proof (First Temple Period)

Dozens of extra-biblical Hebrew documents dug out of the ground by archaeologists completely prove Hebrew evolved chronologically over different eras, fundamentally debunking the "competing contemporary styles" theory. Leading historical linguists have used these physical, externally dated archaeological artifacts to prove that the differences between Early Biblical Hebrew (EBH) and Late Biblical Hebrew (LBH) are strictly tied to time periods, not literary preference.

These physical pieces of pottery with ink writing (ostraca), stone engravings, and official government administrative pieces found across the ancient Kingdoms of Israel and Judah show a clear chronological timeline:

>>13657184

* The Khirbet Qeiyafa Ostracon (10th Century BC): An early ink inscription on pottery tracking closely with the era of King David.

* The Siloam Tunnel Inscription (Late 8th Century BC): A monumental inscription carved straight into stone in Jerusalem to mark the completion of Hezekiah's water tunnel.

* The Ketef Hinnom Silver Amulets (7th Century BC): Tiny, rolled-up silver sheets containing the oldest surviving scriptural text (the Priestly Blessing).

* The Arad and Lachish Letters (Early 6th Century BC): Military dispatches written right as the Babylonians were invading Judea.

Every single one of these physical documents uses the exact same archaic grammar, specific vocabulary, and unique vowel spelling systems found in Early Biblical Hebrew (EBH). They show absolutely zero traces of the late grammatical changes or Persian words that appear after the exile.

## Part 4: Post-Exilic Proof and the Final Conclusion

As the geopolitical reality shifted and the Jews returned from Babylon under the Persian Empire, the physical documents found by archaeologists from this later era change dramatically.

* The Elephantine Papyri & Samaria Papyri (5th–4th Century BC): Documents showing Jews interacting directly with the Persian administration.

Suddenly, the Hebrew found on everyday documents begins structurally absorbing Aramaic syntax and explicit Persian administrative loanwords. This is exactly where Late Biblical Hebrew (LBH) comes from.

If Ian Young's "style" argument were true, archaeology would find a chaotic mix: some 8th-century BC pottery would accidentally feature Persian loanwords, and some 3rd-century BC documents would be flawlessly ancient.

Instead, archaeology reveals a strict, predictable, one-way chronological progression. The language dug out of the dirt matches the timeline perfectly. A 3rd-century BC scribe could easily update spellings to make a text easier to read, but they could not fabricate a centuries-long, organically evolving linguistic ecosystem that aligns flawlessly with external archaeology.

>>543374606

it's from Diodorus Siculus who uses Hecateus of Abdera(4th century BC) as source

https://el.wikisource.org/wiki/%CE%99%CF%83%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%81%CE%B9%CE%BA%CE%AE_%CE%92%CE%B9%CE%B2%CE%BB%CE%B9%CE%BF%CE%B8%CE%AE%CE%BA%CE%B7/%CE%91

>παρὰ μὲν γὰρ τοῖς Ἀριανοῖς Ζαθραύστην ἱστοροῦσι τὸν ἀγαθὸν δαίμονα προσποιήσασθαι τοὺς νόμους αὐτῷ διδόναι, παρὰ δὲ τοῖς ὀνομαζομένοις Γέταις τοῖς ἀπαθανατίζουσι Ζάλμοξιν ὡσαύτως τὴν κοινὴν Ἑστίαν, παρὰ δὲ τοῖς Ἰουδαίοις Μωυσῆν τὸν Ἰαὼ ἐπικαλούμενον θεόν

>Thus it is recorded that among the Arians Zathraustes claimed that the Good Spirit gave him his laws, among the people known as the Getae who represent themselves to be immortal Zalmoxis asserted the same of their common goddess Hestia, and among the Jews Moyses referred his laws to the god who is invoked as Iao.

Reminder that this thread would be banned in a russian network.

>>13657233

Officially/Criminally by Govt or just "culturally" by whichever mid-wits were running the servers?

How about Norway, China or Japan?

I've heard in spite of generally being Catholic and with a Jewess, Mexico is quite tolerant of critics of The Church and about 100yrs ago were hunting priests as part of the Revolution. Not sure how much of the Revolution was Jews.

Sista in first picrel

new theory, Abrahamics are a debased form of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism

Zoros took over Egypt and surroundings in 520BC.

>>13657586

"No, the Persian (Zoroastrian) conquest of Egypt—specifically Cambyses II's invasion and conquest of Egypt in 525 BCE—is not mentioned in the Old Testament."

According to "history" not only did the Persians make treaties for safe-passage and water through Arab lands, but the Persians chose GAZA for their pre-invasion staging headquarters.

>>13657590

which figures?

>>13657188

>>13657184

>Some of this I haven't specifically debunked, so check back in a bit.

I was in that thread and was excited to see a more thorough breakdown. then a bit intimidated by the length of this discussion going back 18 months. but was optimistic that there'd be a lot to sink my teeth into.

I'm about 20% through and you haven't laid out an argument yet. what gives?

>>13611342

video link is dead and no title was given.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byzantine_Iconoclasm

Kinda reminds me of how Jews (and Muslims) will explain away the lack of Jewish or Islamic artifacts by claiming "being a pious people, we don't adorn our belongings (so we're going to call any low quality unmarked broken pottery "proof of Ancient Israel").

"The Papacy remained firmly in support of the use of religious images throughout the period, and…." OK, so where are all those from pre-1000AD?

do you mind if I interject as I go?

>>13611396

while this may be tempting, and simple to believe, I would hold off. I have a slightly more complicated theory.

1477, 1497, 1538

these are pretty good. I will add that Odin and Odysseus share a root. this has been somewhat obscured to where Al will tell you they are wildly different, but foh.

>>13611546

2033 will be here soon. careful what you wish for

>>13611690

hadnt considered that. had always heard the connections to Dionysus but the actual vine is interesting. especially since other parables are about being grafted and such.

>>13611845

that sounds as suspicious and convenient as the dead sea scrolls.

>>13612060

"trust the experts" we're still doing this?

>>13612152

>you indians

>is roma

>>13657731

I think the thesis is correct, but its so out-there that people will need convincing. I respect that you've taken a "change my mind" approach and are welcoming all comers.

If you don't mind I'll lay out my own understanding after I've made my way through.

>>13612312

780 AD minus 164 A.H.

is 616.

your calendar starts at our "number of the beast" date?

one of the theories I heard was that Arius (of the Arianism heresy) started Islam as a heretical sect when he was kicked out in 325 AD. he used a different calendar to make it out to be fulfilling prophecy and padded the date to what I thought was 666, but appears now to be 616 which still fits.

thanks for accidentally providing evidence and confirming that.

one of the earliest letters you guys cherish is of a prayer or a threat to respect Arius. (Muhammad’s letter to Heraclius)

which further confirms that particular theory and suggests that the entire chronology is suspect. just that you have your own dating system is enough to suggest that dating something isnt as simple or straightforward as midwits want to think.

>>13612060

>Bro, every archeologist is wrong. I’m actually more knowledgeable and know better.

There are two "silos" in archeology and universities.

1) the traditional "books written from other books" and they produce a lot of books.

2) the Hard Science nerds that use test tubes, count layers of sediment, and what they publish only makes sense to their fellow scientists.

#1 controls Uni and Govt politics and hence funding and jobs, and the Goon Squads, and #2 knows it.

>>13657772

OP here on other PC.

I'm focused on the supposed mint stamp related to the year of the emperor's reign because:

1)Its not shown anywhere online that I can find.

2)Since metal can't be dated even by problematic methods such as Carbon-14, the stamp is about the only way to claim these dates within about 1000yrs, give or take.

3)There is no provenance or chain of custody for these items. Not to sound overly suspicious, but its certainly possible the date stamps were applied shortly after re-discovery to increase the values.

This is starting to fit a fairly well framed pattern of:

1)Very "lonely" items.

2)Several layers of no provenance or chain of custody since found.

3)Key evidence that might prove the date at least somewhat scientifically is missing or has reasonable alternative explanations.

I gotta wonder how much other stuff might have been found of similar construction but with very different or "mixed" messages.

>>13657778

>your own dating system is enough to suggest that dating something isnt as simple or straightforward as midwits want to think.

Chinese date "birth day" from 9 months BEFORE what we call "birth". Not sure of exact number of days.

IIRC some culture likes to include parent's wedding day, or maybe it was "when they first met" as one of your "start dates".

"Classical Philosophy and Science Copies

Because original papyri from Greece and Rome rarely survived Europe's climate, the 10th century was the golden era of monastic "recopying". Many classical works only exist today because of 10th-century scribes:

The Twelve Caesars by Suetonius (c. 950 AD): The earliest surviving physical copy of this ancient Roman biographical history dates exactly to the mid-10th century.

History of the Peloponnesian War by Thucydides (c. 900 AD): The oldest surviving copy of Thucydides’ foundational historical work dates to this exact era, roughly 1,300 years after it was first composed.

Gallic Wars by Julius Caesar (c. 900 AD): The earliest complete physical copy of Caesar's firsthand account of his military campaigns dates to around 900 AD."

Sounds like a lot of "record copying" going on just prior to 1000AD.

>>13657810

cont….

the sanctuary only from the eleventh century on,¹⁰² several scholars have argued

that there is no secure evidence for any monumental composition of the theme

in the early Byzantine period.¹⁰³ However, the ‘Coptic’ wall paintings in the sanc-

tuaries of churches in Bawit and Wadi Sarga depicting the Communion of the

Apostles were until recently not included in this assessment. Although their dat-

ing to the seventh or eighth century is insecure, they are quite probably earlier

than the earliest Byzantine examples.¹⁰⁴"

Given the oddness of the two plates with two "Jesus" side by side, and the lack of any text about anything Christian, just lots of text about family names and relations, maybe it is about something else, later adopted into Christianity like Christmas and Easter.

Earlier in this thread I opined that late Western Roman coins would have one or two crosses that seemed a better match for the new model sword with big hand guards, wielded either as a big two hander or sword and dagger (never 3 crosses for 'trinity' as on many churches today). But claim is the dual Jesus was only an Eastern concept.

>>13657810

My issue with claiming these are two Jesuses (Jesui?) is that there is zero surviving confirming text such a MAJOR new idea every existed at the time. Like everything else it seems to be now retconned. There is no even simple "Jesus exists both physically and divinely at the same time". I don't see anything indicating which one might be which.

On the other hand the "duality of man" concept did exist in several cultures.

Yeah, I know at least 99% of this stuff also comes from "books from other books" with very little if any surviving from before 1000AD.

AI Overview

The concept of the "duality of man"—the split between the material body and the immaterial soul—originates deeply in ancient Greek philosophy and mystical traditions like Orphism and Pythagoreanism starting around the 6th century BCE.

Origins in Ancient Greece

• Orphism and Mystery Schools: Emerging in the 6th century BCE, the Orphic tradition introduced the idea of sōma-sēma (the body as a tomb or prison). They taught that the divine soul is trapped inside a mortal, material body.

• Pythagoreanism: Early Greek thinker Pythagoras and his followers broke away from older Homeric views (which saw the soul as a mere shadow). They argued that the soul is an immortal, divine entity temporarily residing in the physical flesh.

The Ahriman or Aryaman figurine points to the "trapping" of the soul in a material body. However, there is no actual trap, it is a little hard to explain how it works. The soul is actually a home, your ego lives inside this home, and the physical body is a interface with the material black cube, it feeds information from it into a algorithmic cube which is external to it. You have two icosaedrons, one inside the other, and inside each there is a cube, the smaller cube is the black cube, and the bigger one is the grey cube which stores information. The serpent around your body is the serpent of the kundalini, or caduceus, but unless you have a causal body to store it, you will keep returning due to debt, having your ego absorbed by the white light from the inner icosaedron and the information by the outer. This is the same light from the stars, the white light on the end of the tunnel in nde is the light of the sun. In the fourth spatial dimension the cores of the stars are actual holes in a black membrane. Hence why initiation was important, because it creates a causal body, and when this body matures, the serpent is awakened, the information is then stored inside the causal body and not wasted by the light. The Ahriman figurine shows this process coming into being, as the lion head represents the heart, the circulatory system, which is associated with the first aspect of the anima (the inner shakti), the second aspect being the nervous system and the third and fourth aspects the respiratory system. Ahriman is called a demon because the controllers dont want people to hold this information and this could free too many slaves. But as per solipsism, the cube can be collapsed and chained inside a new structure, as a relic from your past life.

>>13658302

So, tl;dr, the ancient Egyptians got it right?

THE FOLLOWING 40 FACTS PROVE THAT ALL OF DONALD TRUMP'S POLITICAL ACTIONS DURING HIS SECOND PRESIDENCY ARE PSYCHOLOGICAL OPERATIONS DIRECTED BY FREEMASONS EMBEDDED WITHIN THE C.I.A. AND D.O.D.

https://psy000.info/magic/#career

- Freemasonry was founded in the year 1717.

- "Q" is the 17th letter of the English alphabet.

- The letter "Q" is spelled 'C/K-U' or 'C/K-U-E' or 'C/K-Y-U' or 'C/K-E-W' or 'C/K-O-O' or 'C/K-Y-O-O'.

- The name of the "Board of Peace" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- The name of the "United Nations Security Council Resolution 2803" contains three anagrams of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E' + 'CO-O' + 'C-U-E').

- The name of the "National Committee for the Administration of Gaza" contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('CO-O' + 'C-O-O').

- The name of the "East Wing Modernization Project" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- The name of the "U.S. Commission of Fine Arts" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('CO-O').

- The name of the "National Capital Planning Commission" contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O' + 'CO-O').

- The name of the "Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name of the "U.S. International Trade Commission" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- "ICE" is an acronym for "Immigration and Customs Enforcement", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('CU-E').

- ICE officers are employed by the "U.S. Department of Homeland Security", which name contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('CU-E').

- The name of the "Insurrection Act" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name of the "Posse Comitatus Act" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name of the "John F. Kennedy Memorial Center for the Performing Arts" contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('K-O-O' + 'C-O-O').

- The name of “Lake Ontario” contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('K-O-O').

- The name of the "Lincoln Memorial" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('CO-O').

- The name of the "Reflecting Pool" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-OO').

- The name of the "Monroe Doctrine" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- The name of "spheres of influence" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- "NATO" is an acronym for "North Atlantic Treaty Organization", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-Y-O-O').

- The name of the "Ultimate Fighting Championship" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

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>>13658311

- Argentina's official name is the "República Argentina", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- Canada's official name is the "Dominion of Canada", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- China's official name is the "People's Republic of China", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- Cuba's official name is the "República de Cuba", which contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E' + 'CU-E').

- Raúl Castro's name contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U').

- Marco Rubio's name contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('CO-O' + 'C-U').

- Greenland's name in the Inuit language is "Kalaallit Nunaat", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('K-U').

- Greenland is owned by the "Kingdom of Denmark", which name contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('K-O-O').

- Iran's official name is the "Islamic Republic of Iran", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name "Operation Epic Fury" contains three anagrams of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O' + 'C-U-E' + 'C-Y-U').

- The words "nuclear weapon" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- Mexico's official name is "Estados Unidos Mexicanos", which contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name "Gulf of Mexico" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- The name "Gulf of America" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E').

- Qatar's official name is the "State of Qatar", which contains the letter "Q".

- The name of "Air Force One" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-O-O').

- Venezuela's official name is the "Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela", which contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('C-U-E' + 'C-UE').

- Nicolas Maduro's name contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('C-U').

- Delcy Rodriguez's name contains two anagrams of the letter "Q" ('CY-U' + 'C-UE').

- The name "Narco-Terrorism" contains an anagram of the letter "Q" ('CO-O').

The U.S. Navy (earthquakes) and U.S. Air Force (high temperatures) commemorated the founding date of Freemasonry (June 24th) with earthquakes on THREE different continents and record high temperatures on a FOURTH continent.

https://psy000.info/climatic/

https://psy000.info/magic/#june24

Several Strong Quakes Hit Across the World in 24 Hours

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/25/world/americas/venezuela-earthquake-japan-california.html

Experts said the powerful earthquakes that struck California and Japan are likely not connected to the devastating tremors in Venezuela.

Western Europe, Sweltering Under Record Heat, Braces for More

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/weather/europe-extreme-heat-wave-warning.html

More than a dozen countries have issued urgent heat warnings. France saw its highest average temperature ever on Tuesday.

>>13612149

>The reason USA is great and Latin America sucks bad is our Constitution has a two body legislature (House and Senate), and they just have one chamber.

Brazil and Argentina have two chambers. I dont know about the others.

>>13658331

My Biz Law prof said the reason USA is so great (and all of Latin America is a shit-hole) is that we have two chambers and they all have single chambers.

She didn't explain further. She was flat wrong on just about everything I had real knowledge about.

jesus was asked about abraham

he said

>before abraham, there was i am

so calling christians abrahamics is just seethe

>>13658472

>this jewish rabbi said he existed before his ancestors

>therefore you're coping

Leave it to christkikes to take what a jew says at face value.

>>13658488

if someone brought themselves back from the dead that would not be taking them at face value

>>13658497

>no goy you don't understand a bunch of jews said their rabbi came back from the dead and is gonna do it again, and the jews would never lie

I dreamed with a egyptian girl a week ago. She was using telekinesis to rescue a egyptian bald man from a river, and cyan lights were coming out of her hands. She was dressed in these ancient egyptian clothes. The river was half contaminated, the guy was drowning in the clean part. She told me she always rescue her believers.

I woke up with the name Hathor echoing in my mind. Did a research and this goddess is related to the color turquoise, which is very similar to cyan so easy to mistake inside a dream. This color was sacred to the egyptians.

is any of this legit Jewish or Christian and if so does any of it legit date from pre-1000AD?

https://livingwordtimeline.com/artifacts/house-of-peter-at-capernaum

Discovered in Israel in 1968. I'm not seeing any Hard Science physical dating methods.

Lets assume this legit dates from 0AD-100AD.

https://livingwordtimeline.com/artifacts/pilate-stone

All it is is his name and position. It might "confirming his role as the Roman governor" but doesn't "who presided over the trial and crucifixion of Jesus."

This would sure be a dramatic find if legit. The bone box, and presumably bones, of a major figure named in the New Testament. Discovered by accident by Israelis in 1990.

https://livingwordtimeline.com/artifacts/caiaphas-ossuary

I'm not understanding this dating method, but I'm not hearing about it or any other Hard Science physical dating used on this limestone object, much less by any open and skeptical testing.

"bore the Aramaic inscription 'Yehosef bar Qayafa' — 'Joseph son of Caiaphas.'"

Be nice if they showed that inscription.

"While you cannot chemically date the interior of the stone, you can test its carved surface. Techniques like Optically Stimulated Luminescence (OSL) or thermoluminescence measure trapped electrons within the mineral crystals. Sunlight resets this "electron clock" to zero. When a block is quarried and carved, the newly exposed surface is buried and begins trapping electrons again. Measuring this charge reveals exactly when the object was carved and buried."

>>13658910

continued….

https://livingwordtimeline.com/artifacts/nazareth-inscription

Notice when we have actual text supposedly "1st century AD" its saying some specific stuff, but nothing about Jews, Jesus, etc, and we don't even know anything about it except its Greek writing and that the stone came from a Greek island about 1000 miles from Palestine/Israel where it was supposedly found in the modern age. The idea that a Roman emperor, 100s of years prior to Christianity supposedly winning over any big Romans, would be so outraged at the supposed (but rather ambiguous) "grave robbing" of one penniless Jewish criminal peasant, in a remote Provence, that he'd issue extraordinarily severe new mandatory death sentences, just doesn't wash. Realistically, since no valuables or gratuitous public desecration was involved, I can't see why any Romans would much care of the local peasants removed and presumably re-buried or otherwise dealt some one of their corpses according to what their local traditions were. No more than any US Cavalry would particularly care about any Indian funeral practices done in private among themselves.

>>13658911

continued….

https://livingwordtimeline.com/artifacts/yehohanan-ossuary-crucified-man

This would be a lot more convincing if it wasn't only example of a nail through someone's hand or foot, such as if we had one example of a case with nails in hands AND feet, or even both feet. I've done my share of construction and I've stepped on nails and shot a nail into my hand with nail gun, and I've known guys with worse. Lots of reasons for a nail to get into a body, including a non-official non-crucifixion torture session, which would be a better match for a single odd-ball case, who was later given an expensive official funeral and engraved limestone bone box.

Back to Peter's house.

https://madainproject.com/house_of_saint_peter#gallery-11

Claim is peacocks were a meme used by early Christians. What I see are images of peacocks with nothing else or very ambiguous other images, and not with anything distinctly Christian. Peacocks were a big thing among Romans, for a few reasons.

https://madainproject.com/house_of_saint_peter#gallery-9

These are Egyptian/Greek/Roman columns, most likely Roman, with elaborate decorations, supposedly dating from about 1st century AD, long before anyone claims any Christians were producing such buildings as churches and there is no Christian anything about them. Jews claim Jews, being a pious people, didn't ornament anything, much less do exact copies of high end Roman style.

>>13658952

Cont….

Another issue that can't be ignored, it seems the Israeli Govt just happened to build their main Super Max torture prison on top of this "most ancient" supposed Christian church site…and this site was only discovered when they were doing some more building inside the prison.

Israelis claim the site was very carefully handled etc but I'm not seeing anything like exhaustive photos starting when someone first realized "we got something down there" when PRISONER slave labor was digging. Such is off course routine in any mundane construction site in CA. I was working on a house and the site across the street was shut down and cops and others all over it. Someone dug up some bones that turned out to be dog bones.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kFkr5NayCL8&t=143s

Now the mosaic is traveling and maybe still in the Hobby Lobby's Bible Museum.

That brings up a few questions:

1)Given the Israelis have allowed the Hobby Lobby to buy fake Dead Sea Scrolls, you gotta wonder if the Israelis would let the "greatest discovery since the DSS" out of their hands.

2)If there was no verification, like by a skeptical 3rd party, of any photos taken when first discovered, but before fully unearthed, how do we know the stones forming the letters were in those positions?

3)I'm guessing due to "security concerns" and use of slave labor from a Super Max, there is effectively zero provenance to any of this.

>>13658952

Eating fish could have delayed white skin.

>>13658971

Interesting point, or maybe eating oily fish enabled what would become Whites to live further North and/or indoors for months.

But I'm focused on determining if artifacts are legit and WTF they actually mean.

This sounds like a lot of "process" to be done outside of any Adult (Goyim) Supervision by the highly problematic "Israeli Antiquity" dept.

Do we even have a basic video of this object intact when it was first figured out it had a two letter abbreviation for "Jesus"?

Wouldn't the workers themselves be mini-celebrities?

The Megiddo Mosaic was removed from its original site inside the Megiddo Prison by Israel Antiquities Authority (IAA) conservators using a highly precise, specialized engineering and archaeological extraction method.

The step-by-step process used to lift and pack the 20x30-foot artifact for its flight overseas included:

• Sectioning: Conservators meticulously cut the massive mosaic floor—which is comprised of hundreds of thousands of individual stone tesserae—into more than 10 rectangular sections to preserve the core integrity of the unique inscriptions and geometric designs.

• Top-surface binding: A specialized, sticky fabric adhesive was applied directly to the top surface of each section to anchor the thousands of tiny stones firmly in place and prevent them from shifting.

• Chiseling and lifting: Workers carefully chiseled away the ancient mortar bedding beneath the stones, separating the floor from the ground. Each detached section was then carefully lifted, flipped over, and cleaned.

• Packing and crating: The stabilized sections were packed into massive, secure wooden shipping crates, loaded onto flatbed trucks, and driven to Tel Aviv before flying overseas to the Museum of the Bible in Washington D.C., where they were stitched back together by conservators.