/pol/ - Politically Incorrect

>>13635096

Yeah, gonna need you post some moar so amazing thread effortpoasters think they have a big audience here.

>>13635096

Plz post more henlo's

>>13635411

spaced

>>13631610

I’m interested in hearing more about this theory, anon. I also, believe that language is one of the best ways of piecing the puzzle of history together, and I believe that 95% of modern day anthropology and history is merely gatekeeping to maintain a narrative. (Usually by kikes)

Pieces to add to the puzzle: Ebro comes from Iberian, which was called Hiberia by the Greeks, which supports your idea of Hebrew coming from that name. Vikings traded with the Muslims (famously brought cheese) who conquered Spain from the visigoths (after being betrayed by kikes) and were referred to as the “madji,” or “magi.”

>>13635499

I'm thinking language could be overrated since people are able to truly adopt new and forget old inside a single generation.

Bunch of hot shots in ships land and set up biz and start hiring locals and within a few decades the kids that came down from the hills to the new town only speak WTF language was brought by the ships.

We got Americans pushing English into distant parts of the globe with tech, and those Americans weren't speaking English until one or two generations and no longer speak native immigrant tongue.

Plus Whiggers and shit.

1999 SPECIAL REPORT: " WIGGERS"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TnbAWV7LG4

We got inky Black Africans in UK that seem to have authentic lower class English accents.

>>13635582

>I'm thinking language could be overrated since people are able to truly adopt new and forget old inside a single generation.

That is partly the reason for the theory though. >>13635582

>Bunch of hot shots in ships land and set up biz and start hiring locals and within a few decades the kids that came down from the hills to the new town only speak WTF language was brought by the ships.

But they keep their old phonemes, so while they speak with the same words, they don't pronounce it the same.

As the ones with the ships have a written language, the natives will write that, but since they don't pronounce it the same, it will be written differently as well after a while, and voila, you have something that look like the Indo-European hypothesis.

>>13635499

>I also, believe that language is one of the best ways of piecing the puzzle of history together,

Goths not being a naval people, wandered in the wilderness for many years and left a lot of traces in both books and artifacts.

That some powerful rulers could move a city of artisans by force for the economic benefit it would give to his territory is also credible.

Russia invited artisans from all over Europe when they created St. Petersburg, and they all ended up speaking Russian.

That jews/goths ended up speaking Aramaic under the Babylonian captivity would have meant that their lost their connection to the rest of the Germanic languages.

https://8kun.top/pol/res/13632097.html#13635602

>>13635609

This sentence fell out.

I gave up looking at words because nobody would believe me, so I started looking at runes, and ended up with this theory.

https://8kun.top/pol/res/13632097.html#13635602

>>13636752

>OP is indeed retarded

just submit your best pre-1000AD Abrahamic artifact.

>'star of remphan' is trending amongst select online communities

bump for interest

OP here on new PC.

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"Is all history a lie" by Alex Jones and some dude. I'm gonna say "I doubt" since having done some construction I know experienced skilled workers, even those who ain't too smart, can do things that seem almost super-natural with a few tricks. Did I ever show that trick where you can make perfect 90 or 45 deg cuts "by eye" with a handsaw by "secretly" using the saw as a mirror?

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>>13640656

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josephus

Other than the Roman-era Jewish historian Josephus, there are no sources for the history and activities of the Sicarii. According to Josephus's account, the Sicarii's victims may have included Jonathan the High Priest, who was assassinated inside of the Second Temple shortly after being designated as the High Priest of Israel; and more than 700 Jewish women and children at Ein Gedi on the Dead Sea.[4][5]…………………………………………………………………………………………………

Josephus was a very popular writer with Christians in the 4th century and beyond as an independent source to the events before, during, and after the life of Jesus of Nazareth. Josephus was always accessible in the Greek-reading Eastern Mediterranean. His works were translated into Latin, but often in abbreviated form such as Pseudo-Hegesippus's 4th century Latin version of The Jewish War (Bellum Judaicum). CITATIONS NEEDED. WHY IS THERE NO LEGIT COPIES OF ANY OF THIS THAT PRE-DATE 1000AD?

While I believe the only thing Jews would use a sickle for would be ambush murder, the official story is Sicarii used daggers, which is more practical for murder especially if the targets are fellow urbanite Jews and "collaborators".

btw, since Muslims worship a meteorite, and others have pointed out their crescent moon and inset star is "wrong", I thought maybe it was intentional to show a (falling) star inside the crescent where it was normally impossible, and thus meaningful. I'm pretty sure ancient star gazers noticed the dark part of the moon blocking out stars and it wouldn't take much to connect the crescent of the moon with crescents of earth bound spherical objects.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tel_Dan_stele

Two biblical scholars, Cryer and Lemche, analyzed the cracks and chisel marks around the fragment and also the lettering towards the edges of the fragments. From this they concluded that the text was in fact a modern forgery.[26] Most scholars have ignored or rejected these judgments because the artifacts were recovered during controlled excavations.[14][15][16]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avraham_Biran

The stele was discovered in 1993 in Tel-Dan by Gila Cook, a member of an archaeological team led by Avraham Biran.

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What is "unfounded" is the accusations that its a forgery are unfounded. Even without factoring in the Israeli Factor, odds are well over 1,000,000 to 1 that it would be a forgery just because there are so many forgeries compared to real artifacts. Notice how there is zero "further investigation" of these cracks and chisel marks. "Most scholars have ignored or rejected these judgments because…." Obviously, these aren't very good "scholars" because these are two distinct issues. I submit they "ignored or rejected" for exactly the same reason our Congress will routinely vote 535 to 0 in favor of Israel, without any good reason being given. "Scholars" with cushy positions will be hyper aware that, tenured or not, there are only a tiny number of such positions and if they get Black Listed for asking wrong questions their career is over, and they'd have to change their name and start selling aluminum siding in Ohio or something.

"Work Will Make You Free" is just good solid German advice. It might not make you rich, but there will always be an open door for you. Arthur Butz was "free" to publish his book because his main gig was as a talented PhD level Electrical Engineer. Becoming a PhD EE is a lot of work and something History PhDs are simply unable to do. A guy like Butz could ditch his name, and degrees, and walk into any electronics company in any nation on Earth, and walk out 30 mins later with high paying position and fat hiring bonus.

"….during controlled excavations….." Doesn't sound very "controlled" to me. According to these unsupervised Jews it was "discovered" when they were rushing to pack up and "hit the road" in 1993.

In 1990, I was working at a construction site with a foundation repair going on and there were issues about a few things like if water was collecting and if someone was pumping it out to make it seem like it wasn't, and if drilling into brick was being done correctly with drill setting, not hammer setting, etc and they set up 3 different cameras to run 24/7, because that was a CHEAP and EASY way to show everything was on the up and up, and to save money on extra inspections and site visits.

https://cojs.org/how_i_discovered_the_-house_of_david-_inscription-_gila_cook-_cojs/

A few minutes later Biran yelled out again in his booming voice, “Come down already!”—he was impatient to hit the road and was irritated that I was holding things up. Finally I finished and came down the ancient stone road, through the Iron Age gates and plopped down my bag, drawing boards and measuring rod next to a wall in Area A at the eastern edge of the ancient piazza. I bent down to lean the optical level machine and tripod down against a basalt stone at what seemed to be the southern end of a wall. Something on the exposed tip of the next still-buried stone caught my eye, but I looked away for a moment as I began to dismantle the level from the tripod. In this brief interval, my mind registered what I had seen. I looked again and said to myself, “Oh! These are Hebrew or Phoenician letters!……"

Fragments B1 and B2 were found in June 1994.[5] The stele was not excavated in its "primary context", but in its "secondary use".[6]

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Carving words into rock would be pretty rare and they just happened to use those same rocks as part of a wall as rubble?

Let me guess. After finding Frag A, which was the only clearly "ancient Israel", heck, the entire Bible in fact, thingy ever found in history….they still couldn't AFFORD to set up monitoring CCTV at the site, not even 24/7, but maybe just for when they were digging stuff up, just for their own "scholarly" reasons to help them remember where they got stuff from. Or maybe Rabbis ruled that filming was not allowed, because we all know how often cameras were mentioned in the Bible.

BASED professor Jiang Xueqin just recently dropped a TRVTH NVKE video called "The Origin of Evil" and it is great. The guy exposes the entire foundation of elite religion, mystery cults, Freemasonry, occult rituals.

No schizo rambling, no esoteric LARPing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgGfQdv_rPc [Embed]

Yes he's Chinese. Yes he might be CCP. Idgaf, the content speaks for itself.

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/515125345

somewhat interesting, but mostly mid-wit, thread on Paganism

I'll save to my personal files and pick out any good parts later.

OP here.

But WTF about all these ancient Israel minted coins?

https://zaksantiquities.com/product-category/ancient-coins/?srsltid=AfmBOoqW5Rd7SRnYvEXZIfA8wFR93gAJwQjmIbS99bmGK52Fbz39PKmO

I'm guessing it will be one or more of 3 things:

1)If contains clear reference to something very Jewish, there will be no provenance of it being pre-1000AD, but may well date fairly old of not that long after 1000AD.

2)If there is good provenance of anytime before Jews were supposedly expelled, the meaning of any memes or writing will be vague and debatable.

"The Paleo-Hebrew script, also Palaeo-Hebrew, Proto-Hebrew or Old Hebrew, is the writing system found in Canaanite and Aramaic inscriptions, including pre-Biblical and Biblical Hebrew, from southern Canaan, also known as the biblical kingdoms of Israel and Judah."

3)If there is good provenance and specific Canaanite/Aramaic of something now claimed to be Jewish, it will be some person/event/location that was later grafted onto the Jewish story line from other cultures that actually existed, such as The Great Flood.

Similarly, "Allah" means "god" in Arabic.

"The Arabic word for God, Allah, is

a contraction of the phrase al-ilah, meaning "the God". Its history includes pre-Islamic usage in polytheistic and monotheistic contexts, "

>>13647702

I forgot to add that the Maccabees invented Judaism, the source of all evil in the known Jewniverse.

(There is no archeological or documentary evidence for Judaism before the Maccabees, which obviously means that they invented it.)

>>13647704

>Maccabees

that entire story only exists in "The War of the Jews" of which the oldest copy….and this is not even going to the methods used to date, but that is normally "handwriting style" which real scholars rightly scoff at……

Oldest nearly complete Greek manuscripts: The oldest surviving complete codices (bound books) of Josephus's works, from which modern editions of the Greek text are compiled, date to the 10th and 11th centuries. The earliest of these were copied by Christian monks.

Codex Parisinus Graecus 1425 (10th or 11th century)

Codex Ambrosianus D 50 sup. (11th century)

Codex Vaticanus Graecus 148 (11th or 12th century)

Early Latin translations: While not in the original Greek, some Latin translations of The Jewish War are very ancient. A papyrus codex from the sixth century CE exists, though its translation is considered of low quality.

During the time this rebellion was supposedly put down by Greek rulers of Egypt, the Greeks had 95% adopted Egyptian customs because LARPing as Pharaohs was higher class than Greek gangster/warlords, so of course they adopted the Egyptian custom of recording their great deeds in great detail, in great monuments.

Still not a hint of anything that could be Jewish, living right next door, with some "ancient Israel" minor empire of scholars, warriors, scientists, etc.

The Egyptian-Greeks did of course record dealings with actual cultural such as those both in Palestine and just beyond. I can tell you that without even needing to check.

then we got this mid-wit. appears to be Methodist krypto-kike

In June 2016 allegations of unwanted sexual advances by Carrier at atheist and skeptic events were publicized by bloggers and organizers. Freethought Blogs suspended his posting privileges pending review after reporting "several first-hand reports of persistent, obnoxious sexual behavior in defiance of specific requests that he cease."[37] The Orbit published a contemporaneous roundup that described three categories of public allegations then on record, Carrier's own description of a rule-violating advance toward a student at a campus event, a second student's public account that he asked her out and touched her arm and leg without consent, and Skepticon organizers' description of repeated boundary-pushing toward a staffer, along with notice that the Secular Student Alliance (SSA) had removed Carrier from its Speakers Bureau and was reviewing its procedures.[38] On the same day, Skepticon announced that Carrier was prohibited from attending future Skepticon events, citing "repeated boundary-pushing behavior."[39] SSA stated that, after an internal inquiry, Carrier had been removed from its Speakers Bureau the prior year and that it was undertaking a board-level review of policies.[40][41]

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>>13611182

the dutch are scum and you're a nigger

>>13610862

please clarify anon, i'm not getting it

>BAMP

Is this botted thread? Many of the posts are incoherent

>>13610626

its Ron

>>13651815

Yes, they make sure they keep the most retarded shit bumped at all times, it scares off anyone who may be passing a glance at this place.

Surely if people are posting so much in this kind of insane babble thread then this site must then be filled with retards and everything else people say here must surely be as retarded as this botted thread.

This is a thread that should be removed. It's clearly not a real thread, this is the shit they constantly do though, if its not shitty weird pro/anti christian threads or nazi threads then its flat-earth threads or Q shit or whatever else BREADCRUMB STYLE BULLSHIT they can spam to make it appear, AT A GLANCE, people are here posting retarded shit when the reality is some hairy stinky jews sit around in a tel-aviv office (unless it gets hit by an iranian rocket) and tries to find ways to make it harder for nonjews to discuss the serious problems of judaism.

TKD SOLVES EVERYTHING. TOTAL KIKE DEATH. NO MORE KIKES = NO MORE SHITTY BOTTED SPAM THREADS.

>>13651818

>make it harder for nonjews to discuss the serious problems of judaism.

I"m the OP. IMO this threads premise is more important than Holohoax Debunking itself, since it addresses the first big snow-job.

>>13610564

> I've done this before and never lost.

Yes, of course, because you're not risking anything. You can always appoint yourself as a tie-breaking judge and rule in your own favor, and no amount of bad faith will catch up to you because you're anonymous.

>To save some humiliation, lets lay down some ground rules and guidelines.

No man should be a judge in his own cause; you're demanding that people play your game, and you're demanding the right to claim that you're playing by "rules" but in fact you can play "Calvinball" and ignore anyone who calls you out on it.

>"dated paleographically" means someone DID do Hard Science(HS) dating of the materials and results, to put it mildly, didn't match,

So "someone" did "hard science." And you don't cite any textbooks or refer to famous professors, you just wave your hand to assure the audience that you understand this sort of thing but you're not going to spell it out.

>>13610859

>> shroud of turin

>are you trolling me, boy?

>The microscopist Walter McCrone ….[5] ….[6][7]

>the Hard Science testing allowed on The Shroud is an example of what is NOT being allowed on other artifacts.

So you are block-quoting somebody who uses numbered quotes, without including the numbered quotes. Have you ever graduated from high school?

At least by this point in the thread we have our first notion of the experts of which you approve. And what, pray tell, makes *your* opinion of McCrone more authoritative than the opinions of those who disagree with him? Nothing but "Calvinball."

Yeah, this is a great thread. "Come on everybody, I am the debunking authority! I am the judge in my own cause and I can debunk everything I want to debunk!" This is the kind of idiocy that makes peer-reviewed journals look worthwhile by comparison.

>>13641134

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Oh, wait, I finally see why OP decided to pollute a politics board with his attention-whoring – he's trying to become a YouTuber outside of YouTube. Ironically, the unpleasant parts of being a video-influencer are so unpleasant that they would constitute appropriate punishment for his attention-whoring.

>>13651916

THX for the reply with several at least valid questions.

I'll be back shortly to address all of them! :)

IMO this thread is more important than ever given current war on Iran.

>>13651917

>become a YouTuber outside of YouTube

I'm thinking more like an online Encyclopedia project.

Probably a data base that goes by GPS location, and multiple track of dates of when:

1) the event supposedly occurred

2) oldest known existing record

3) oldest known existing artifact

4) methods of dating 2 and 3.

5) disputes of 1-4.

Then a "contrast and compare" section of the many cultures that have actual evidence not in any dispute that are still supplying artifacts today, dug up under the strictest protocols.

>>13651815

show which posts are beyond your understanding

except for a few attempts at humor they all seem pretty clear

debunking "ancient Israel"

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/532757520

>>13652058

related thread mostly about Hykos

https://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/532914304

>>13651916

>>13651916

>not risking anything

its not about risk, but "anonymous" prevents dishonest people from using dishonest means "doxing"

>lets lay down some ground rules

because 99.99% of people are too stupid to understand I'm talking about actual artifacts, not books written from other books, the oldest of which is 1100AD or later.

>"dated paleographically" means someone DID do Hard Sci

You misunderstand. It means there is NO published Hard Science, and ALL they are presenting is "paleographically" which I've addressed in this thread….real scientists rightly scoff at "paleographically" claims without real science, since making "ye Olde" type writing seems to be a universal human hobby.

Present your best artifacts. :)

Shroud of Turin has many claims that seem valid, as far as dating, but just as many that debunk it. From my viewpoint:

1)It could be close to correct age.

2)It could be much newer.

3)Carbon-14 is basically unless for anything that has been well handled, and barely useful for something that has been somehow preserved and sealed since death.

4)Its not a shroud, its a 2D image, AKA painting or drawing, or "projection" of some sort.

5)Claims its blood/wounds are some amazing match to Bible haven't been reverse engineered by disinterested CIS experts. I'd like to tell Tokyo PD detectives to, given certain wounds, show me what a "shroud" or painting, would look like.

But we are still left with the fact that all these supposed artifacts are very dubious, "lonely" and have no good origin. Real cultures/religions have tons of stuff being dung out of the ground today that can be dated from real stuff like layers of soil they are dung out from.