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>>189668

I dont have one, overall it might be natsoc or classic libertarian.

I pick and choose as i see that fit, from left to right to up and down. From extreme to mundane.

>>189673

Or classic liberal.

>>189668

Ethno-linguistic nationalism. Citzenship only for those with verified ethnic ties. Non-citizen nationals subject to extreme scrutiny. The state exists to preserve the language, culture and traditions of my ethnicity. It is constitutionally protected that those without a pedigree cannot become citizens. The national language is the only language allowed for public discourse and media. Within the confines of an ethno-nationalist constitution, citizens vote using proportional representation.

>>189677

For me it is really interesting that even french people speak perfect english.

>>189682

>For me it is really interesting that even french people speak perfect english.

English is the multicultural language. If English is your first and only language - then you speak Multiculturalism.

>>189682

You have to imagine the burgers that do not have the vocabulary, in terms of creamyness of the language they are cut because they are afraid to use more outer circle words. Constraint, degranged. We aint.

>>189684

I m a bavarian.

Only kin allowed, only kin's language allowed, double language for enclaves, bureaucracy only in one language.

Half blood maximum allowed to stay or come back from abroad, no further muttery.

Only kinsman run bank and media where only pro-kin ideologies and strategies are allowed, subversives exiled if useful idiot or executed if conniving snake.

Medical patents ignored, military patents ignored.

Mercifully execute murderers, torturers and rapists if the proof is irrefutable, else lock up then exile.

Carrying any "gender change" operation is punished by execution, promotion by exile.

Exile all other sexual deviants and multicult degenerates.

>>189897

based

>>189668

either

>1. just be nomads n shieeet either hunting and gathering or being pastors in the case of the world hitting the shit

>2. starship troopers larp, with a constitutional monarchy. citizenship is required to vote, you can only be a citizen if you either A) served in the military for a minimum of 9 months, B) have a total income of over 200k, or C) are self-employed as your primary source of income for the past 4 years and make over 100k a year. 1 of these requirements must be met, among with being a man over the age of 25.

>>189955

I come from a Baltic nation. To me, "half blood" means one parent has a Russian background. This is the unfortunate legacy of the Soviet history we have. If these blended families support the local culture and raise their children speaking my language, I an accept it. Many of them change their last names even to try to separate themselves from their Russian background (others are assholes and continue to be as Russian as possible).

When I said based, I did not even consider the possibility of having brown people in this society.

It might be hard for a burger like you to understand, because you live in a Mutt country, but over here if an Irish person and a German get married it's race mixing. You see them both as "white", but to me they are different races.

>>189975

>Irish, Polish, and Magyar are that genetically close

WOW, I guess I'm less of a mutt than I thought.

>>189975

I am going to assume you are Irish.

You would have a society where Irish and Scottish interbreding is totally banned? Are you going to make an Irish-only ethnostate within the US?

The point I was trying to make was that I consider mixed families acceptable up to an limit, and that "mixed" to me means two different (but closely related) European races - not niggers.

I'd like to hear you clearly state your policy on intermarriage.

>lying dickheads and traitors to their ancestors

I agree with you in principle, but the issue of Russians in the former Soviet bloc is more complicated than that. If they fucked off back to Russia then sure, be a patriotic Russian. If they stay then they should face the reality that they are in an ethnostate in which they are no longer the dominant ethnicity.

>>189673

> natsoc or classic lib

You realize these are fundamentally incompatible right?

>>189986

>You realize these are fundamentally incompatible right?

I guess he should have said

< natsoc xor classic lib

>>189991

>But see how much 'trouble' and 'potential' came into the world simply by race mixing among Europeans?

Yes colonialism was hands down the stupidest and most destructive thing Europeans ever did to themselves. They created powerful nations divorced from their home countries, and channels for subhumans to flow back to those same home countries.

>>189991

>What needs to happen is the reconquest of the USA

I see what an uphill battle even small nations have to retain their ethnic identity, I have some hope that here in my country we might succeed for a few decades more at least. But we are already very pure compared to the West. I just can't imagine the USA un-browning. Every time I say this I get accused of being a demotivational shill - but I have never had it explained to me in a way that seems plausible. There are just not enough white skinned people there who want it enough to got to war.

For this reason, when it comes to the other side of the Atlantic, I am an accelerationist. The best thing for Northern and Eastern Europe would be for the USA to collapse into a burning shitheap as fast as possible, so that we can point to it and say SEE - LOOK WHAT HAPPENS!!!!!

I am very open to being convinced otherwise. If anyone has a realistic plan for saving the USA from the brown I will listen.

>>189999

*Danish not Dutch (my bad)

…although the Dutch are the highest IQ nation on the planet the Danes are at a more advanced level of speciation/specialization. You can double check this in your own DNA to see if there are any 'further' branches or specialized genetic groups (further mutations) that extend from your own genetic lines or if you are the most advanced of your heritage.

>>190005

>Classical lib is just progressivism

Totally. I really like the ideas (Hayek for example). There is some great enconomic insights there, but ultimately the liberal will sacrifice culture for economics. I don't trust liberals at all, they will be the first to start importing browns to work in their mines (just look at silicon valley to see what individualism/liberalism turns into)

>>189991

Or hear me out, a nation built on colonialism and expansion attracted those kinds of Whites to populate it. The culture attracted people with those genetic traits who once small in number in their nations of origin ended up creating a group where gettin' shit done and killin' is just natural. Look at Australia, criminals who didn't give two fucks were deported there and they developed into a no fucks given nation that's relatively conservative compared to most modern White nations.

>>190013

>criminals who didn't give two fucks were deported there

I would assume most of the "criminals" to Australia were debt prisoners. Could be wrong. That was a common path for the indentured in colonial America, as well.

>>189955

You imply my ethnicity didn't have the common sense not to fuck niggers, unlike our penis mutilating friends west, those half a dozen that did will most likely fall within degenerate and get the boot or never come back because ebil nazi state.

I don't have problems with the rest whose blood is half other white european or the decent number of half slavs abroad, couple of generations of proper upbringing and they're abysmally mutt enough to look pure, and no retardation regardless of purity, as europeans ain't niggers.

>>189960

Baltic man gets what I mean.

>>189668

>The state exists to preserve the language, culture and traditions of my ethnicity.

Human language is the ultimate proof that humans can live and prosper without a government, so making the state the arbiter of language seems like a faster and more inevitable road to absolute totalitarian rule than communism/socialism could ever hope for.

>>190351

Meant for >>189677

>>189668

Race. Sage and report for spam.

>>190364

SAGEFAGS ARE SHILLS SAGEFAGS ARW SHILLS SAGEFAGS ARE SHILLS SAGEFAGS ARE SHILLS

If we are successful in achieving white nationalism, at some point we will be required to figure out how to govern a country with a homogenous white population, this is good practice.

Besides, we can just ignore the "without mentioning race" part of the OP and still mention race in our description of our ideas for a perfect society.

I will take up the challenge, however, keep in kind that this is a work in progress.

https://bin.privacytools.io/?d0b6e215175c6c8a#PxdDFOfVQchIR5BJK4dcVucD5FBNj9LPhlrrnCTJoXg=

here, it doesn't mention race, I tried to find a way to create a society that disproportionately benefits whites without doing having race-specific policies.

>>190383

Sage.

>>190383

If you want to successfully govern a White nation, you should remove government. It is a jewish system that has never benefitted anyone except the jews. Without government, jews wouldn't even be a problem in any nation. Government is the great 'enabler' of the jews.

>>190399

Can't argue too much with you there right now, as it stands, the police and military are the largest obstacles to the white mans survival, with them out of the way we could eliminate the Jews and niggers overnight. Even with all their advantages that they currently posses, It would be a very one-sided fight.

but i also have a suspicion that even with the police and military we could win if we just rose up together, I think we could beat them in a war if we actually knew we had brothers to back us up on the field.

The biggest obstacle here is potentially ourselves, we are too afraid to do anything, we want to be good people, and good people don't do terrorism.

We also are isolated, and we don't see anyone who would assist us if one of us was to do anything of the sort.

If even a fraction of us rose up tomorrow, we could retake all the countries represented here, it would be so easy, we know how to do it and a lot of us are capable of doing what we imagine we could, however, most of us will not.

We procrastinate and make excuses, telling ourselves "if X occurs, we will be able to go" "when Y comes, that is when we do it", "I'll do it tomorrow" ad infiitum, as things get worse and worse around us.

The "breaking point" that we said should kick off a happening comes and goes without incident, no meaningful resistance was ever put up.

Opportunities dry up as we wait, we could have had meet-ups to discuss what to do in coffee shops the way our ancestors did, but none of us ever tried to. Now that the lockdowns have hit, we cant do that anymore.

We wanted perfect, and because we were waiting for the perfect opportunity, we gave up every opportunity we had.

Lots of us are outsourcing our struggle to Trump, but he was never truly with us to begin with, and if he loses, whose going to be the next to stand up to the establishment? no one, because those of s while now, are too demotivated to act.

Better to stay inside, "self-improve" and wait to be snatched up by the cops with no one even knowing or caring what had happened to you.

We have so much power, but because we never use it, it is as if we have no power, we lack a fasces, and none of us have the balls to try ad build one at all.

TOR is empty of Pro-White revolutionaries, as are all the message boards and image boards, yet far left "activism" thrives on these places, you aren't even interested in TALKING about what can be done, I assure you, your enemies are nowhere near that shy.

All of you disappoint me, the best any of us can do is some ineffectual lone wolf activity Brevik or Tarrant, hoping in vain to inspire anyone to action. But they attacked the wrong targets.

If they were smart, they would have gone out with toolboxes, not weapons, and went after infrastructure (power, communications, transport, other utilities), not after people.

They thought they needed to send a message tat would cause others to rise up, but they failed to realize that most people already know the things he knows, it's not a lack of inspiration, but opportunity and security.

Turn off the lights, cut the communications lines, take out the streets the cops need to get to you.

Then people will know they can do things and not be immediately be arrested, then people will be able to be a little more bold, then people will know how to snowball the existing chaos into even more chaos, especially if they live in a city, first take out all the infrastructure, then you can have the freedom to move onto other more vital installations.

The people, they know where the rich are, where the schools are, where the news HQs are, where the courts are, where the gov't buildings are, where the corporate buildings are, where the tech buildings are, they know where the airports are, those are the places of power, those are the prime targets.

Not a synagogue, not a mosque, not a church, these places are meaningless and expendable for the enemy, it's retarded hitting any of those places, which are at best forward bases of operations for the enemy, easily sacrificed for the prize of getting a dissident fighter and milking him for all he's worth.

Take lessons from the Troubles of Ireland, how they did war was genius and it set the example of how a modern urban rebellion should be carried out.

>>190408

>Take lessons from the Troubles of Ireland, how they did war was genius and it set the example of how a modern urban rebellion should be carried out.

Decades of conflict. Northern ireland border the same as it was as the start.

Yeah real successful.

>>190413

Got a better idea?

>>190417

Same thing, but actually attacking the right people. Doing anything whatsoever, in fact. That would work. We’re doing nothing, and doing something is required.

Jungle low effort boxxed copy of american capitalism with a weak currency for the masses, a socialist elite and ((((them)))) at the top.

>>190420

Start a place on TOR, Invite people over.

We can talk about this in more detail there.

>>190465

No, we’re not talking about it at all. This isn’t something you talk about. You don’t plan, you don’t organize. You just go do. Talking equals arrested and killed by feds. Every single fucking time. No, there is no encryption that is sufficient. No, there are no secure channels. No, no one can be trusted. ANY possible communication results in failure. We saw that quite recently, in fact. Only a few days ago (no, not Nashville).

>>190469

>We saw that quite recently, in fact. Only a few days ago (no, not Nashville).

We did?

>>189673

Thats the way we need to be. Flexible and draw upon any political thought to confront whats in front of us.

Radical-Centrist Dictatorship aka Benevolent Despotism aka Enlightened Absolutism

with me in charge of course

>>190566

>with me in charge of course

I am aware you are joking BUT…

Everyone always thinks they are more capable of managing other peoples lives than the actual person is…it is sad really. People can't even get their own shit together in their lifetime (or in multiples) but they want to have 'charge' over other people.

>>190590

>Everyone always thinks they are more capable of managing other peoples lives than the actual person is…it is sad really. People can't even get their own shit together in their lifetime (or in multiples) but they want to have 'charge' over other people.

t. JP

Not wrong though.

From my own experience of managing people in a work context, the hardest thing to deal with is that everyone is fucking dumb (makes sense because if they were smarter than me then they would me MY boss). It's amazingly difficult to make a herd of dumbasses productive.

>>190492

Yep. Got covered up pretty well, but it was still on local news. Bunch of “white nationalists” were going to actually do something that would have mattered, at least in a little way, but they talked about it. So they were nabbed by feds. You don’t talk about it.

It's run by Jews and red Chinese, administered by a million little tyrants and steered towards racial balkanization and eventual self annihilation.

Wait, you mean the system as it is or the halcyon ideal?

>>190609

uuuuuuuuuwuuuuuuuuuuu, would nap them females though.

>>191404

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RM7lw0Ovzq0

I lreally like that song.

>>191404

Religion? WTF stop there?

There is no belief higher than Truth. <- Now that is what I am talking about.

Plebs who lack taste must be kept low in the social hierarchy.