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Martin Luther himself was a traitor.

He defied saint worship, yet since he couldn't completely deny Mary he ended up depersonalizing Her into a rose, kind of like jews in general depersonalize their god into functions. That was picked up by Rosicrucian cabal (which mainly consists of religious globalists seeking to unite ALL religions), and later transformed into freemasonry and hasidic judaism (who worship rose from song of songs, which has sumerian basis). Its thanks to protestants we have all the secret societies and hebrew heresy around. Catholics may not be liked by many, but they kept all mentally ill mystics under control.

I am pretty convinced despite hate of the jews people like Bruno and Luther ended up helping them more than harming them. Tolerance towards jewish occultism is part of failings of the church. In fact i dare to say without deconstruction of church's power the jews as religion wouldn't exist, they are some false jews who sprung up as power grabbing families of mixed people claiming to have gibs on jewish heritage. Heresy and magic give kikes power.

>>184477

So many posts you could have made, talking about any of the claims Luther makes in the book… Bringing out the most choice red pills and demonstrating how others, such as Alexander Solzhenitsyn in 200 Years Together, have made the same observations of Jewish behavior throughout the centuries. How Jews themselves are proud of the evil they cultivate. You could have paralleled it with Mein Kampf and pointed out how Hitler was literally following Luther's recommendation of putting the Jew to manual labor so that they could learn humility. But instead, you chose to D&C. You chose to contribute nothing.

>>184469

Great book. Thank you. Lol, now I can recommend this to my mom who only cares about audio books.

>>184477

Couldn't you make the same argument about Christianity defying the European Pagan religion? Arguably they have stronger Gods anyway.

>>184633

>Thanks anon.

You're welcome. I'll take a look at those.

>You might as well claim that everyone who posted Pepe were all part of one secret club and were all somehow ideologically linked.

Wait, we're not in a secret club? Awww, now I'm sad…

>>184648

Shh, don't tell em about our secret society!

I couldn't find the image of Nazi pepe executing Furie. "This isn't a boys club anymore" I tried.

>>Catholics may not be liked by many, but they kept all mentally ill mystics under control.

Yes and they also kept women, particularly young unmarried women under control. As soon as a girl entered puberty she was locked up behind bars in a convent under strict surveillance and even her parents could only speak to her through a heavy metal grill. She was not removed from there until her wedding day when her father, brothers and uncles came to collect her and transport her to the altar, chaste and virginal to her groom and from that moment she became his responsibility.

Luther smashed the nunnerys and released the young women who promptly went rambling about the countryside looking for and formenting trouble, usually in the form of some demented fanatical communistic radicalism based on some vague anti property utterances by the divine word of their lord and savior Jesus.

Meanwhile the Catholic Church made damn sure this kind of nonsense wasn't promulgated in its domains.

>>Jansenism was a theological movement within Catholicism, primarily active in France, that emphasized original sin, human depravity, the necessity of divine grace and predestination. The movement originated from the posthumously published work of the Dutch theologian Cornelius Jansen, who died in 1638. It was first popularized by Jansen's friend Abbot Jean du Vergier de Hauranne, of Saint-Cyran-en-Brenne Abbey, and, after du Vergier's death in 1643, was led by Antoine Arnauld. Through the 17th and into the 18th centuries, Jansenism was a distinct movement away from the Catholic Church. The theological center of the movement was the convent of Port-Royal-des-Champs Abbey, which was a haven for writers including du Vergier, Arnauld, Pierre Nicole, Blaise Pascal and Jean Racine.

>>Jansenism was opposed by many in the Catholic hierarchy, especially the Jesuits. Although the Jansenists identified themselves only as rigorous followers of Augustine of Hippo's teachings, Jesuits coined the term Jansenism to identify them as having Calvinist affinities.[1] The apostolic constitution Cum occasione, promulgated by Pope Innocent X in 1653, condemned five cardinal doctrines of Jansenism as heresy—especially the relationship between human free will and efficacious grace, wherein the teachings of Augustine, as presented by the Jansenists, contradicted the teachings of the Jesuit School.[1] Jansenist leaders endeavored to accommodate the pope's pronouncements while retaining their uniqueness, and enjoyed a measure of peace in the late 17th century under Pope Clement IX. However, the further controversy led to the apostolic constitution Unigenitus Dei Filius, promulgated by Pope Clement XI in 1713.[2]

>>185983

>The only way to control women is to keep them zoos, as explained in the Book of Pedophile Incels, Chapter 6 Gorillian

This explains the insane cult of Judeo-Catholicism better than a than a thousand commentators.

>>185983

That attitude towards women was since times of Athens. Just recently there was a meme going around about adapting sharia from islam, and you look down on catholic nunnery.

>>185990

>Judeo-

Yes, the jews most certainly want white women be chaste, preserve their virginity until marriage and pray to Virgin Mary, and not do racemixing pornography with the monkeys from African jungle you posted.

>>186096

Sorry anon, its just anon above for some reason made me think you were negative. Praising chastity to its extremes is not a popular thing on imageboards.

>>186098

It's not just the chastity question it's also the deeper issues that Protestantism raises. There's a lot of them; philosophical, economical and social.

For example; the pope begged Henry VIII to accept an annulment on his marriage. He refused; he specifically insisted on divorce. Why? Because he was in a tight spot and needed a schism with Rome for a very specific purpose. His father Henry VII had just won the war of the Roses to establish himself as king. But he was on shaky ground and England being at that time on the periphery of the civilized world still didn't have a truly centralized government. There were no federal tax authority in being king. And there was no central bureaucracy, not even a national army. There were only loose agreements with historical validity between the barons and the king. There was no navy. Navies are very expensive things. And Francis I of France was sailing up and down the coast of Scotland with a force of 75000 men looking several summers in a row looking for a chance to land them and link up with the Scots. Henry needed a navy.

The Church owned about 1/3 of the land in England, the result of a thousand years of death bed bequests. That land supported hospitals, old folks homes where you could retire in comfort and safety, and orphanages. This was all run mainly by monasteries.

Henry VIII's schism allowed him to seize all that land and sell it. That is another story but you can bet it involved jewish cloth merchants, the wool trade and kicking honest yeomen off their land to turn their farms into valuable sheep runs. And the monasteries and church lands. Hundreds of thousands were turned out of their old folks homes, their orphanages, the hospitals to make way for the ruthless merchants of the cloth trade. Henry spent all that money on his navy, the first British navy.

Thus began a history of British religious schism, insane heresies, religious cults and the brutal benthamite utilitarianism that we live with today, surrounded as we are by so many kooky cults and churches that spring up like mushrooms overnight.

One of the things Charles Dickens was wont to say over and over; "whatever happened to merry old England"?

It was destroyed with all the monasteries that gave ordinary Englishmen a social welfare system that treated them with love, respect and kindness. It gave them dignity, even in their last years, even if they were orphans without a home. And it was the ruin of England's medieval gothic culture.

>>186104

>That is another story but you can bet it involved jewish cloth merchants, the wool trade and kicking honest yeomen off their land to turn their farms into valuable sheep runs. And the monasteries and church lands. Hundreds of thousands were turned out of their old folks homes, their orphanages, the hospitals to make way for the ruthless merchants of the cloth trade.

You're well versed in history. I agree from my own research, although of later years of 17 century freemasonry, that unholy union of brits and jews began deconstruction of western religion, its like England was suffering religious mini-Weimar. Somehow offspring of that became a parasite of US, even though they fought a war against brits, their last revenge were solidification of protestantism and masonry on US soil. Leftykikes have a meme about Irish conspiracy, its not that far from truth that its brit traitors dealing with the jews. I call them Judeo-Scots.

Protestantism would never win its ground if Jews didn't got involved, and English allowed it from their obsession with kabbalism and magic. Germans are secondary to the cause, Lutheranism could had been stopped just like Cathars. Countries with Orthodox Christianity never had those problems with Church's deconstruction, until atheist commies arrived.

>>185984

I won't find Jordan Peterson's quote because that would require to go through every Peterson's podcasts, although there's another quote on another site going as "He is certainly a deceiver and perhaps mentally ill. He believes that the biggest evils come from people holding onto traditions"; but that's from search cache. Not to mention Peterson's is not a good source on mental illness after his meat only diet fiasco.

I only have abstract description of German article "Martin Luther's seizure disorder" by H Feldmann:

>Martin Luther's diseases are well documented, because he used to discuss them freely in his letters. There is also a wealth of evidence through reports by his friends. Most of his diseases were common and well known to the contemporary physicians, who accordingly interpreted them correctly: bladder stones, chronic constipation, hemorrhoids. Luther's death obviously was due to a coronary thrombosis. During the last 19 years of his life, in addition to these "natural diseases", Luther also suffered from recurring attacks of a peculiar symptomatology. Luther himself and his friends considered these seizures to be no "natural disease", but Satan punching his flesh, and he compared them to St. Paul's disease (2. Cor. 12). The first of these attacks occurred on July 6, 1527, when Luther was 43 years of age. It began with a roaring tinnitus in his left ear, which increased dramatically and seemed to occupy the left half of his head. Then a state of sickness and collapse followed, however, consciousness was retained throughout the whole period. After a night's rest all the symptoms had subsided, except the tinnitus, which, from that day on, continued for all the following years in varying intensity. Similar attacks with increase of the tinnitus and vertigo as the leading symptoms, seized Luther at irregular intervals and distressed him extremely. Former investigators of Luther's diseases interpreted these attacks as manifestations of a psychiatric disorder and a chronic inflammatory disease of the middle ear. The present detailed study reveals that it was a typical case of Menière's disease of the left ear manifesting itself more than 330 years before Menière's classical observation.

>>186110

If you haven't read it yet, you'll want to read this.

As an aside, it sure would be nice if we could go back to normal so I could attend colloquiums like this;

>>186111 (checked)

Yeah, i know about those books, there's like 10 times more documents and manuscripts of Rosicrucian occultism, all of it is the true foundation of Freemasonry, because Rosicrucians paved them the way:

https://1lib.eu/s/rosicrucian

I just decided not to read any of that myself least it poisons my mind, and collect mostly catholic sermons and correspondence of cardinals. Have too much to read on the catholic tradition than to focus on reading heresies.

If ill decide to return to debunking their doctrines, i will. Henry Edward Manning well pointed out that "All human conflict is ultimately theological.", which Hilaire Belloc explained in The Cruise of the "Nona" as "that all wars and revolutions, and all decisive struggles between parties of men arise from a difference in moral and transcendental doctrine", "arguing for what should be among men, but took for granted as he argued that the doctrine he consciously or unconsciously accepted was or should be a similar foundation for all mankind. Hence battle."

>>186117

>all of it is the true foundation of Freemasonry, because Rosicrucians paved them the way:

haha you're not kidding.