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Probably a foregone conclusion, but it's a standard/manual, right?

Else don't bother. Really.

>>18134

>but it's a standard/manual, right?

automatic

>>18134

>Else don't bother. Really.

With what? Getting the heads resurfaced?

>probably will pull the engine out before changing the headgasket and timing belt, pulleys, etc.

You have no choice but to pull the engine to do the heads.

Considerations? get a full timing set with idlers, tensioner and water pump.

>>18136

>Considerations? get a full timing set with idlers, tensioner and water pump.

Already have an Aisin timing belt kit, all made in Japan components none of the cheap shit.

Dumb question, if I get the heads resurfaced do I need to do the same to the block as well? I should also get the machine shop to also check the valves/pistons too eh?

>>18138

Why the fuck are you about to drop 500$ on straightening out a subie , these cars were not anything special and are either overpriced or broken.

However, yes. If the cylinders require boring due to wear you will also need new pistons. Machine shop charge by the hole and a flat number by surface (will probably be a bit more because lmao two heads to straighten out)

>>18139

>Why the fuck are you about to drop 500$ on straightening out a subie

It shouldn't be that much to resurface the heads, no? I've been told by a few people who've done this same job it cost them maybe a few hundred to resurface, if that.

I didn't hear any knocking and the engine sounded fine when it was started up for a few minutes just to ensure it was running, we'll see what the machine shop says once I get the motor pulled out.

From what I've read on the Subie forums a non oem headgasket of high quality preferably a 6 star remedied the issue. The vehicle is in pretty good condition overall and someone I know who flips cars said I could probably at least get a few grand for it if I ever decided to sell it.

bump

>>18140

You need to realize that a 2001 Subaru with an automatic transmission does not have an enthusiast's market. No Subaru fanboy wants an automatic Forester. That means your market is poor single moms and teenagers looking for their first car, people who have very little money. You would be lucky to get $2000 for it.

>>18142

>You would be lucky to get $2000 for it.

I've spent under $1000 (including all the parts) for the shitbox so should I just drive the fucker into the ground if I can get another 50km out of it or sell it once I get it running and at least make a little $$ even if it's just a few extra hundred smackaroos?

This is my first project car, heck if I break even I'll be content with learning how to do an engine overhaul, timing and head gasket job.

>autotragic

>blown head gasket(s)

>miles are probably high and rough because daily driver

Why? At that point just buy a rusted out 80's-00's 5 speed pickup of literally any brand. It'd be cheaper, more useful, easier to work on, and more reliable over any stretch of time, even if it's a rwd and not a 4x4. Your best bet is to get it running moderately well and gyp some upper-middle class 16 year old vape faggot to buy it for $1500-$2000.

>>18144

>Why? At that point just buy a rusted out 80's-00's 5 speed pickup of literally any brand. It'd be cheaper, more useful, easier to work on, and more reliable over any stretch of time, even if it's a rwd and not a 4x4. Your best bet is to get it running moderately well and gyp some upper-middle class 16 year old vape faggot to buy it for $1500-$2000.

its around 150km, so considering what I've spent on it so far getting $1500-$2000 isn't too bad I hope for my first project shitbox, for the past year I've been looking around to get some shitbox and my autism couldn't take it no more lol pretty sure I could of done fucked up worse

>>18140

Sounds like you're a Euro, so at least you've got that shitty car market on your side to help sell it. Other than that, it's a goddamn Subie H-6 or 4 right?

The great conundrum of Subarus is that everyone seems to swear up and down that they're the most reliable cars ever made while EVERYONE that says that also had their head gasket blow well before 200k miles. I don't fucking get it. As icing on the cake, no only did their head gasket fail, but the engine was drinking oil for years before that; not just the early 2000s subies either.

>>18146

op should light it on fire and buy a toyota. lol

>>18153

>op should light it on fire and buy a toyota. lol

I'm going to make some scratch off selling the Subie and eventually will get a toyota 4runner lol I'm a poorfag and will need to flip nuff shitboxes to afford a 4runner :s

>>18146

>Sounds like you're a Euro

nope, a mutt

>>18163

If you get a 4runner and have a choice get a 3rd gen, as they're retard proof. 1st and 2nd gen are good as well so long as you don't get the 3vze V6, which is possibly the shittiest engine Toyota ever made. The 22re I4 is good, though. Mine lasted 276k miles before the PO blew it up because he was a retarded alcoholic redneck who forgot engines need oil.

>>18163

Tbh toyota is hella overpriced in the states, depending on your region it might be better to get a burger box. I have really enjoyed the 88-98 C/K Chevy and the 9th and 10th gen Furd pickups. Their derivative two door (what do you call them, big Jeeps?) Broncos and the like are all very solid vehicles with the indestructible small blocks and pushrod V6s of their respective MFGs

I'm not a Subaru fan. If you end up with $2000 in the car and it runs/drives good. It will pay for itself in a year or two with nothing but maintenance and basic insurance. I was an auto tech for many years. I did the same thing you're doing many times and for many people.

I have a free car that was giving to me in 1999. It's a 1998 model. It needed nothing more than a full maintenance regimen done to it. I am still driving that car today, 20 years later. I have done nothing major to it but keep the service up and basic liability. The most I have done to this car for repairs was a radiator at 180,000 miles after a crack in the plastic tank, an A/C compressor at 200,000 miles, and now at 260,000 miles I am replacing the front down pipe due to a frayed flex coupler in the exhaust. All in all, I have probably spent $3000 keeping this car on the road for 20 years not counting the insurance, taxes,tags, and fuel. We all pay that no matter what we drive.

Parts are cheap, insurance is cheap, and taxes are really low on this car. Never take a car on expecting it to resell well to a niche ricer market. I own a Honda that used to be in that niche. People moved on and now I'm stuck with a good car that wouldn't sell for a $1000. I have almost $2500 in the repairs alone. It's a great back up car and fun in the mountains.

If you like the car and will use the car, fix it and drive it like you stole it. Fuck all the nay sayers.

>>18169

thanks for words of encouragement fren!

>>18171

You're welcome and good luck with the project.

>>18171

If it is only the head gasket and only the head gasket it is worth fixing for the purpose of fixing.

But there is a reason for it to fail. Be it overheating, improper coolant etc.

You won't know until you do it. Just be careful not to drop too much in this junk.

If it is a 4 banger you can change gasket while engine is still in car, and if heads aren't warped, you don't need a resurface. You can check with feeler gauge on a flat piece of glass or with angle iron.

But when you are doing a head job, you might well do a valve job as well, which at 150k is probably well needed.

Given if you wanted that car, it is kind of worthy if you fix it. You will have a new head gasket which means engine is fine for another 100k if bores aren't ruined. Otherwise you'd add 200 bucks for a good car with good engine and never deal with this crap. It is a lot of work. Word of advice: Some bolts are removed easiest when engine is hot.

You still don't know if there are other issues, cracked head, block, oil consumption etc.

I'd be weary of even investing anything into it.

Probably would just do the gasket and reuse belts and everything and watch it for a while if it shits itself, because some engines will do that on their own.

Thing is, if gasket is leaking oil and in minute quantities, it's fine (well until it blows completely thru)

If it is leaking water tiny bit, it can be easily repaired with water glass which will form a semi-permanent seal as long as crack isn't too big. As well you can take the water tank cap off while you aren't or are driving, so there's no pressure in system. If you don't hammer the car, it will be fine. Did this for 1 year and it worked-ish.

If it is mixing oil and water - well, tough shit, this needs immediate fix.

Gaskets may be blown from hydrolock as well. Given this is semi-terrain vehicle it may have ingested something in the past.

This results in bent rods as well.

Procedure for starting such engines with blown gaskets is to remove sparkplugs everytime before starting, then starting starter for few secs to clear cylinders and reinstalling sparkplugs.

If you find out in which it blew, you just take that sparkplug out to remove any water that leaked in overnight.

>>18139

If cylinders are worn out, better to just scrap the car. it isn't worth it.

On other question, if block needs to be resurfaced. Usually no.

If it is a v6 and only one head is toast, well, this is semi-worthy to fix. If both are, engine is prob scrap.

Take it as a project, don't really bother otherwise.

If you have such a bad leak into cylinder that engine stumbles, just take sparkplug out and wire it to ground so you don't burn the coils, disconnect the injector and drive without. It will be loud, it will be shit performance, but friend did another 10k on his old honda before it went to the scrapyard. Engine didn't die, just got tired of it when he got another junker that didn't need that routine.

Economy stays the same for some reason. You'll just need to rev engine higher to get it to move.

Man, I remember wanting a Subaru from around that era and my buddy with a 05 Outback told me stay away from them, he had the gasket go, he wasn't the first person to tell me this too.

Cheese and rice the advice head been quite pessimistic. It has low miles, so I'm guessing it's in good shape think you basically said that. The head gasket thing is a known issue. Many of the years have very solid engines despite that. So good it up and flip it. It's worth 2k at those miles with a known issue fixed (is often a selling point, that the gasket head been fixed)

I had this done for an 02 Impreza, is worth it, fun cars.

Sell it before the winter!

The boxer is fairly intuitive engine but damn that is still quite the project.

Be patient, don't have the heads redone doubt they're messed up. Prob should get new head bolts tho

>>18177

>Prob should get new head bolts tho

Everyone either tells me to get new ones or use the old ones IF the threads are in good condition. Everyone seems to be split 50/50 on this particular topic.

>>18194

Are they torque to yield like those cocksuckers at BMW use or reusable like small block V8's

>>18197

>Are they torque to yield like those cocksuckers at BMW use or reusable like small block V8's

oem says to reuse the same bolts I believe, will double check of course

>>18202

You can reuse everything, even condoms if you are brave enough

Doesn't mean it's wise tho