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523168 No.16084
Would you drive a toyota kurauno haibrido?
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3c9e57 No.16085
There was a Century at the beggining of the vid. I want that one actually.
This new Crown looks as blend as the others, won't bother go through import for one tbh. Even outside the US.
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d36ac1 No.16095
>>16084
Holy shit why are toyota and lexishills posting on /o/? They're fake cars with fake engines made by fake engineers, no wonder toyota literally pays shills to promote their soycars on /o/
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a7e05b No.16107
>>16095
>toyota
>soycar
The soyboys are the fasty faggots like you who buy any overpriced piece of junk that breaks after 50 000 miles.
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1b423e No.16108
>>16095
>promoting the Crown on /o/
>a board without a single japanese user
Sure mate.
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130acb No.16109
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b10005 No.16131
>Would you drive a toyota kurauno haibrido?
probably not
Which model of Suzuki is this?
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de8a85 No.16132
>>16131
That's a first generation Swift Sport, otherwise known as the Ignis. Recognize it from TXRD2.
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0aef88 No.16133
>>16095
>shilling a car we can't buy
>a car we have to wait 25 years to import
>most of us will be 50 and older when it does.
You don't have to like Toyota, but use some logic,anon. Nobody here is Japanese and I bet most of the users here are American
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de8a85 No.16138
>>16133
I know there are much more pressing matters across the other side of the ocean, but jesus christ anon lobby for that shit to be abolished already. It only exists because of that greedy crypto-kike Bill Gates wanting his 959 to be the only 959 on American roads. Even federalization would be a more preferable option if the shoe was on my foot.
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e1ef99 No.16139
>>16138
I think it has more to do with those dumbass "enviromentalist" who push global warming and say that if we import cars they may have some evil motor in them that destroys the ozone layer in one year, or at least something along those lines. Can't really trust those types of people, even if their heart is in the right place they are still fucking with a mans car, and there is no greater sin.
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0aef88 No.16142
>>16095
It's such dogshit laws and as >>16139 said already we can blame hippy faggots for it. I see imports but I'd never DD one…maybe a B22 or something I can find parts to State side.
A friend of a friend imported a R32 or an R33 from Canada ( I can't remember and I've never seen the car in person since I don't get along with this guy)
He had it for 2 months then blew the engine and has no way to fix it so it just rots in the lot now. I have no how he plans on fixing it, but from what I know about him from things in the past, he's really bad with his money.
Poor car…
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b10005 No.16155
>>16132
that's a good eye anon
>>16139
Nothing political is ever done out of kindness. Someone is making money. +I'll gladly shill for the nips as long as it's not a modern hybrid.
>>16142
I love the time period that this car fits into. I'd love to get up in the morning and sit in it and just smell the leather. We don't have uncompromising cars like that in Europe. Fuel tax and insurance puts them out of reach.
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e51278 No.16175
>>16138
>>16139
Actually, the law was more of a push by large automakers such as Mercedes-Benz and Lexus. They lobbied Congress to stop grey-market cars from being imported en masse because there were at least tens of thousands of cars being imported and converted to US specs, taking away from their car dealer business. The grey-market industry was crushed after the law was passed, The whole emissions and safety part of the law was just icing on the cake, and the "show-and-display" was a select few (((wealthy))) people wanting to drive their fancy imports.
http://www.importcarjapan.com/25-year-rule/
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0aef88 No.16227
>>16155
In a sort of flip some Japanese people like to import our loud bulky cars new and old.
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977972 No.16578
I'm considering buying a new Toyota RAV4 haibrido. Had one for a couple of days and liked it. Anyone experience with that thing? Good, no good?
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0aef88 No.16591
>>16578
The GT86 aside I pretty much hate how all modern Toyota's. I feel like they're fucking trolling us with this ugly fucking thing too. It's a shame too since they made awesome cars for along time.
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3af3e5 No.16600
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977972 No.16601
>>16600
Cause I need new car.
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977972 No.16602
>>16601
And I'd like to buy a hybrid or electric car.
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b9d27b No.16603
>>16602
Hybrid? Get a prius and don't bother us with this hellspawn crossover.
I'm being nice not talking you out of buying an hybrid
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e51278 No.16604
http://www.goo-net-exchange.com/usedcars/NISSAN/CEDRIC/700054078930180720005/index.html
>you can get a decent car in Japan with less than 25k miles and with more shit than you can think of using for the equivalent of $3500
<here you're lucky to find a 4-banger or soccer mom SUV that "needs work" with less than 100k miles at that price
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b9d27b No.16606
>>16604
That´s mostly the case with insulary countries who drive on the left. Since RHD vehicles can't be sold anywhere else, their prices stay low. Here in Europe you can sell your shitbox anywhere around, from the rich Switzerland to the poor Africa, so shitboxes still have some value and keep prices up.
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72adb2 No.16609
>>16606
That's bullshit and you know it.
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b10005 No.16612
>>16604
It's probably cheap because the tax brackets make it undesirable
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3af3e5 No.16618
>>16609
Explain how prices in the UK and Japan are half the prices in the EU then. Go on, I'm listening.
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b10005 No.16620
>>16618
>a £1400 car is £2800 in Germany
yeah either the EU rapes you doubly hard with taxes or you're full of shit
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72adb2 No.16633
>>16618
Economics, buying power of money, less cars overall, sea breeze rust. Both UK and Japan are congested with cars. Various taxes, culture about car maintenance.
That's just on the top of my head.
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6a288d No.16635
>>16633
>>16620
and maybe because they can't sell their cars just to the neighbouring country?
see MX-5 NA, for example. It works with any car.
here's the prices in the UK for RHD cars:
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=MAZDA&model=MX-5&year-from=1990&year-to=1995
Prices: £1100 to £2500. That makes roughly 1300 € to 2800 €, and I'm being nice.
Now France, the happy neighbour, for the same car:
https://www.lacentrale.fr
/listing?makesModelsCommercialNames=MAZDA%3AMX5&yearMin=1990&yearMax=1995
from 6000 € to 8500 €.
Now what? There's no rust in the UK. No more than in France. I don't see how less cars can keep the prices down, this is actually the other way round. Less cars but congested with cars? You're making opposite claims now. Car culture is completely different, I'd give you that. And taxes are lower in the UK too, I'd give you that too. But it doesn't explain such a wide price range.
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b10005 No.16643
>>16635
let's have a look for a typical shitbox just to see if this is a universal phenomenon
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-search?sort=sponsored&radius=1500&onesearchad=Used&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=New&make=VOLKSWAGEN&model=POLO&year-from=1990&year-to=1995
>1.4L VW Polo, 70,000 miles, manual, 1995… £999
https://www.autoscout24.com/offers/volkswagen-polo-1-6i-gl-gasoline-green-558bda6f-f76f-3f79-e053-e250040a5efc?cldtidx=10
>1.6L VW Polo, 100,000 km, manual, 1996… €800
It appears "j'ai habite a la francais" is fine if you're after a shitty-go-box. But I've checked the MR2 facelifts and it appears there you're being fucked over to the tune of 1,000 euros more than if you bought one in the UK.
Either the French crash all the nice RWD cars around some dumb arch in Paris until there are none of them left or somebody is hoarding all of the collectible cars. Or you never bought them in the first place. You've got no problems at all buying a 2WD Suzuki Vitara for under €1,000 but then they were never designed to be "sporty".
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de8a85 No.16645
>>16635
>>16643
etc.
Uh, I don't wanna feel as if I'm stating the obvious or anything, but speaking as a britanon I think I know why Japanese cars in particular are a lot cheaper than they are in mainland Europe:
Because they can import them directly from Japan without changing anything. Unless you include the dials, which is a significantly smaller feat than having to move the entire steering column + pedals on to the other side of the car. Even the license plate holders don't have to be changed, since we have an alternate plate design that is more square and fits within the confines that exist on most JDM models, at least historically anyway. Also the #1 British car, as has been since the turn of the millennium is of Japanese origin. The 2001 - 2005 Civic hatchback was built exclusively here, those that were exported elsewhere have a Union Jack next to the "Civic" nameplate to signify this. Nissan and Toyota also have major manufacturing plants in the UK. Meanwhile in Europe, I'm not too sure what the policy is but they either have a secondary assembly line where the cars are re-assembled to the correct spec, or are sent to a private company to do that for them. The extra premium you guys get might have to do with that. Plus you still have homegrown manufacturers whose governments probably make cheaper and more attractive to buy for the purpose of helping the local economy. All we have is a French-owned Vauxhall that spent the previous 40 years as a German-American rape baby when GM decided to unify the brands, an American-owned Ford that is due to become Jeep 2: Electric Boogaloo, a Chinese-owned MG that made designs that were already 10 years old when they bought them for another 10 years (see pix related they fucking poorly photoshopped the original promotional images made by MG-Rover lmao), Indian-owned Jaguar, Land Rover and Aston Martin marques, and a German-owned Mini marque who keeps teasing us with a true successor for the original design and never do it. The rest of you still have the real deal; cars designed, built and managed by the same country as the one its company was born.
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3af3e5 No.16649
>>16643
I see 100k miles on your example. But correct, there's less price difference on the shitboxes. Since the sellers won't usually sell them because crushing them can cost less and is actually less riskt because of European Customer Protection laws.
About RWD: people don't buy them much. Frenchies aren't car people, sadly. And when they are, it's
>emergad it's a Porsche you must be filthy rich you bastard capitalist
All the time.
I'm not joking, even for a 11k€ Boxter.
So people tend to use them only on sundays, to drive and see their relatives. then we drive to Germany and HAVE FUN
>>16645
This is true for japanese imports. This isn't true for the others, since sales on LHD are higher overall than RHD sales. A RHD Corvette will be more expensive than a LHD since they are rare as fuck, but a RHD TVR will be more expensive since more people would like to keep them as a collectible, since LHD countries are way more present on the globe.
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b10005 No.16650
>>16645
>Because they can import them directly from Japan without changing anything.
I don't know if the RRP actually differed despite the layout changes. I also don't know who bought more of what since every result I tried to find on sales data lazily throws every EU car sold together into the same statistic.
I would explain it as 1.8-2.5L ranges are taxed punitively in the UK to the extent that demand is stifled, while they're also too small to attract well-to-do buyers who could otherwise afford to keep them. Depreciation on german saloons can be catastrophic for similar reasons.
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5c9e0d No.16651
Funny that you guys bring this up now. This autumn, it will be legal in some EU states to register a car with the wheel on any side. Some silly freedom to buy bill was passed, so now some states will allow you to drive with a steering wheel up your ass if you like.
So, as a typical Europoor, i am stoked to see cheap imports from UK. What should i get, that's fun to drive and work on?
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6a288d No.16652
>>16651
Wasn't it legal already? I can import any jap/UK car in France already, it just has to be a model that's already sold in LHD in here.
Get a miata, they cost nothing over there, cheap, fun to drive and incredibly easy to work on. Also, parts, parts everywhere.
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f090f6 No.16658
>>16651
UK doesn't really have any special cars, it's Japanese and strayacunt cars that are cool. Like the Ford Falcon from down under or the rare 4-door R33 Skyline from Nihon.
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6a288d No.16661
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f090f6 No.16664
>>16661
Novelty and expensive and will try to kill you if it doesn't get you stuck inside.
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6a288d No.16665
>>16664
he just asked for something special, not something reliable and safe.
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f090f6 No.16667
>>16665
Mazda Eunos Cosmo
Nissan-Zagato Autech Stelvio
Kenmeri or Tekkamen Nissan Skyline
All special and not "british engineering".
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6a288d No.16668
>>16667
>special version of bestsellers
you're not proving me wrong, you're just proving that you have obtuses tastes and thinking.
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d8d466 No.16669
Let's bring out one of the classics
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f090f6 No.16671
>>16668
No, you just think >>16651 wants a cheap, fun to drive and work on TVR.
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17c5c3 No.16673
Damn, TVRs seem like fantastic cars for wealthy folk who like driving. It's a small sports car, designed to be small and sporty. What a shame i'm ot wealthy. Looking at Rovers though.
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6a288d No.16674
>>16671
I wasn't replying to this guy, what the fuck are you on about
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f090f6 No.16675
>>16674
But I was, pal
Get rest
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3af3e5 No.16677
>>16675
this is going too far for my brain
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2ef1c4 No.16713
Ive driven a toyota crown hybrid. Good acceleration, comfy at high speed, but terribad in snow, icy, and heavy rain. YMMV
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