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>>8860

Thanks, man. I actually went and signed up for riding classes and my younger bro is also teaching me a bit.

I'm not planning on going fancy with my first bike.

I want something small and cheap, that'll last me a long time.

Anything that fits the bill?

>>9569

Kawasaki Ninja 250

Kawasaki Ninja 300

Kawasaki Eliminator 125

Kawasaki KLX250S

Yamaha tw200

Yamaha Virago 250

Yamaha R3

Yamaha SR400

Honda Rebel 250

Honda CBR 125

Honda CB250

Honda CBR250

Honda Grom

Suzuki DR200SE

Suzuki DRZ400sm

Suzuki GS500/550

KTM RC 125/390

With that many options you're really gonna have to ask what kind of riding you want to do, especially since you didn't even say what class of bike you're looking for (sports, dual sport, cruiser, etc.) What I will say though is that unless you think you'll rarely/never ride on the highway/freeway than you'll want at least a 250cc motorcycle. Otherwise I gotta say that the Honda Grom is pretty much THE DEFINITION of "small and cheap motorcycle", especially in the size department. The thing is like a road legal pit bike and I hear its super fun to thrash around when you aren't lusting for speed.

>>9578

Ah, I guess I should have been more specific.

I'm in it for transportation and weekend rides more than sporting. Thus I'll be looking for a standard or a crusier.

I'm most likely going to be riding on highways, probably not when I just start, though.

>>9592

In that case than I'd go for either the Virago 250, the SR400, the Honda Rebel 250, the Honda Rebel 250 Nighthawk, the Suzuki GS500 or the Suzuki GS550. The first two of those are probably going to be harder to find and more expensive, though. Just do your research on those and get a chance to sit on them if you can to see what feels right.

>>9578

>tfw half of these aren't sold in my country and/or instead they sell a shittier underpowered version.

I'd kill for a Grom, heck i'd even settle with a CBR 125 as my starter.

So I want to get into motorcycling and I'm pretty set on getting a Honda grom, but I'm a bit strapped for cash. Should I save and get a brand new one or are they okay to buy secondhand?

>>9659

Secondhand is usually preferable, actually. Buying a brand new motorcycle is almost as big of a waste of money as buying a brand new car. It's a Honda so you know it'll be fine

>>9660

Cool thanks for the reply. Where would you recommend looking and what should I look out for when buying it used? I'm a bit weary about buying used since I was boned over once, and I don't have much motoring knowledge so I'm afraid of being ripped off.

>>9661

Craigslist first and foremost. As for what to look out for, I'd recommend checking out some guides on Youtube for that since there's quite a bit to keep in mind. In my experience, no one video has covered everything. Things I know off the top of my head

>never buy when its dark, whether that be in cloudy weather or literally at night

>make sure the VIN numbers match up

>if there's horizontal (not vertical) scrapes along the body than that means the bike was in a crash of some sort. Other scrapes and scratches just come with the territory of used beginner motorcycles since most people end up dropping their first bike at some point

>stay far away from salvage titles unless you're buying it for parts (which you aren't, obviously)

>if the bike isn't running, don't force yourself to buy anything beyond your comfort level as far as fixing problems go

>make sure to look at the tires to see how worn out they are. If they have little to no tread left than you can use this as a bargaining chip for haggling

Thankfully, motorcycles are relatively simpler than cars so there's less stuff to look out for. Since you said you're strapped for cash, I just want to throw in a friendly reminder to make sure that you have enough money for gear, classes/exams, and insurance as well.

Other than what I've embeded, I also find that this video on how to haggle is pretty useful for someone like me that isn't used to that kind of thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEz8j-qIo9k

>>9662

Thank you mate, capped for future reference. A lot of people have discouraged me from getting a bike, their argument being that it's dangerous. I don't feel like I'd be totally unprepared as I've rode quad bikes before (I mean, they have similarities) but this is totally something I've at least got to experience. Hell I might find that after doing my CBT that I don't even like riding bikes, but I think this is something I can really get into. Again, thanks for the advice, I'll check back in after a few months when I actually buy one. Any other tidbits of advice you can offer? I know how to drive on the road but what should I avoid/keep cautious about while on a bike?

>>9665

Same thing applies as the videos on what to look out for when buying a used motorcycle. I would personally suggest you watch any and all of the videos in the "Weekly Rides with Rueben" series from season 1 that are about motorcycle tips. Avoid stuff from season 2 because they got a new guy and he sucks

>>3327

>spongy brake

abs? air in your line?

>revving

its a sports bike, thats how they work. i got a cbr125 and the powerband is at 8k-10k.

>>3374

-good rubber

-both disk brake rear/front

-water cooled

-injection

-good headlight

-comfortable

-good on gas

those are the top point.

I get so tempted to open my door when you friendos drive by my car between the lanes in traffic.

Besides that I have no problem with motofags.

>>10240

Feel free. Those guys are douchebags.

>b-but lane splitting is perfectly safe and legal in certain parts of the world!

So is blowing vape clouds in people's faces, but it doesn't make you any less of an asshole

>>10240

>>10244

>being this easily pissed off

You're gonna get pissed on, til you snap.

>>10244

>>10240

why would you do this? Just, why. Why does it even make you angry? I do not understand your brain.

>>10255

>smaller object that's harder to see and more vulnerable than a car

>deliberately puts self in other people's blind spots

and then everyone assumes that you're the one at fault when he swings to the side of you while you try to change lanes after leaving your turn signal on for 10 seconds. Guys like these give riders a bad name and are the reason freedom hating countries around the world have engine size/configuration restrictions. That and the whole

>hahahaha I get to skip ahead of all this traffic and you don't because you need a truck for work. U mad, BRUH? xdddddd

>>10264

>hahahaha I get to skip ahead of all this traffic and you don't because you need a truck for work. U mad, BRUH? xdddddd

It is true doe

>>10264

in actual countries, drivers are instructed to check their blindspots with an over shoulder check before changing direction or if necessary lanes. The fact is that it is lawful to filter on a motorcycle, and it's your obligation to accomodate it. I personally disagree with a lot of laws regarding bicycles, I don't think they should be allowed on the roads, but they are, and you have to work around it and adopt your driving.

embed related: how it works. Notice drivers cooperating by making room and giving warning about pedestrians. They understand the law and understand that filtering is allowed to ease congestion and keep traffic flowing, which is a benefit to everyone, including car drivers.

Should my first bike have abs?

>>10275

What are you, gay?

>>10264

Stay angry.

>>10264

Couldn't it reduce traffic congestion and the risk of being rear-ended by an unaware driver?

>>10308

It does.

>>2141

Me again.

So it's the end of My Vacation 2016, and I've come to a conclusion:

I'm probably going to sell my FZ-09 next spring. Why? Mostly because of the way I ride, and my geographical location. You see, I don't like to take long trips, I like to do shit that I can turn around in a day. Unfortunately, I live in a place where everything is spread out and if I want to go anywhere I have to dump that shit on the highway for hours, which I hate, and there's only so much to ride locally before doing it all over again. Also, when I'm active on the bike, I'm fine, I can ride all day, but on the highway, doing nothing, not moving, fucks me up, it's like my joints lock up, so even if I pile on 3 hours of highway to get to some nice riding, by the time I get there I'm too stiff to have fun. That's not the bike's fault, when I had a scooter I was like this, when I had my WR250X I was like this, and being like this with the FZ bums me the fuck out.

Yesterday I gave it one great push and rode a 1000km day, going for a round trip to Ottawa, and when I came home last night, and still this morning, I'm fucked up, and worse, it's not like I had any great fun doing it, just highway highway highway highway highway…. FUCK.

>>10503

Touring bike maybe? Or you might just need a car for those long trips.

>>10511

I can't deal with big bikes, I just can't like 'em, I learned on a 250cc sumo and even if I like the FZ, I miss my WR250X dearly.

>>10512

Fair enough, i'd actually go for a 150cc and maybe a 250 or 300 after that, but im too broke for either so it doesn't matters ;_;

>>10503

You are a candidate for one of those adventure bikes… V-strom 1000, lots of torque, comfortable on highway, decent in the twisties.

Not very sexy though, unfortunately

>>8853

The acceleration isn't insane. Gearing is not too aggressive in stock form.

Easy to ride and gets more fun the better your skills.

one of the best beginner bikes and value for money.

So what is a good second bike to move up to from a Bandit 250? I'm a LAMSfag and I want to get a Vulcan S or similar kind of cruiser, but given my only experience is on my Bandit I'm not really sure what I should do next.

What is a good starter bike to also learn how to fix bikes on? Something older and simple. Anything under 100cc. I just want something I can use around town and learn how to fix engines on. I live in a high traffic area, so I don't want to go long distance on it.

Say what you want about me wanting a slow bike, but that's what I think would be fine for me ( for now)

>>11167

Anything Japanese.

No seriously, anything Japanese will fit the bill. Even the easiest to work on car will still be more difficult to work on than your average Japanese motorcycle.

However, if you want something specific, the Honda Super Cub is the first thing I think of when I hear your criteria.

>super cheap even when it was new

>infamously bulletproof

>simple construction

>literally without exaggeration the best selling motor vehicle in the history of the world so you know you have a great aftermarket for parts

>hipster chicks will be all over your dick

>>11169

Since I want to work on it I guess even finding a beater would be fine? Any clue what a fair price on these are?

I'll keep it in mind though.

>>11170

I'm not an expert but according to this graph its anywhere from $1k-$2k which is cheap even by motorcycle standards. You might even be able to get one out of state and have it shipped to you if you find a seller willing to do that with you. https://motorcyclegraph.com/usa/honda/super-cub-50

>>11171

>>11171

Thanks for the info. I don't even have a permit or license for a bike yet. I figured I could fix one and learn on it. Could be a fun project.

>>13246

Looks like a fat midget

>>11167

if you go a bit over 100cc, there is a huge market of affordable 125cc bikes that are extremely simple in construction, with parts readily available from the manufacturers.

I managed to finally get my motorcycle license this summer. Too bad it was late summer and life in the Scandinavia is snow and rain, but I got a little bit of driving done.

My first bike is a used Kawasaki ZX600 from 1999. It's pretty fun.

This thread didn't really help stave off my craving for going out and riding.

>>14348

Northen yuropean too? Sweet. I plan on getting my bike license this winter, so as soon as the snow goes away i can pass the exams and spend the summer on my Minsk. Found an almost functional Minsk under some tent behind a barn. Owner just handed over the documents and said that it has something going on with fuel pump. It was kicking out blue smoke when i tried to start it, did not start though. That smoke looked hopefull though.

I'm going to share this great documentary I found some time ago.