/mai/ - Waifu★

>>66053

A bit late, but I don't think you're entirely wrong. It shows a level of emotional maturity I wish I had regarding degenerate material of Ruby. As disgusting as it is, such things are unfortunately out of our control, so remaining perpetually angry about it is a waste of time and energy. I don't think you're a bad husband to her at all.

That being said, by the same token, it's also perfectly understandable and permissible to be angry when you see such material of your loved one, especially when it's morally wrong or demeans her character in some way. The thing is not to let it control or consume you.

I guess this would be the best place to ask. First of all I want to say that I'm new here, though I have been lurking for a little while now. Wanted to get a sense of what the board was and how it rolled before diving in. From the looks of things this place is really comfy and understanding about things. I know about the introduction thread and how usually that's the first place people should post when first coming here but I have a reason why I haven't done so just yet and why I decided to first post here instead: I've never had a waifu before.

Now let me explain a bit further. I've been attracted to 2D girls before but in the old chan spirit of things I never proclaimed any of them my waifu just because I just didn't feel that connected to them. At most I would say they were best girl or favorite girl or just simply call them cute, beautiful, sexy, etc. This time though it feels really differently and I honestly don't know how to go about it. For the longest time I assumed, presumptuously I realize now, that waifus were only for people who were depressed or couldn't get into a real relationship or what have you. However, and I hope this doesn't come off as too blog posty, due to real life experiences over the last few years culminating with me swearing off romantic relationships(VERY much to do with the wild relationships that happened when I was younger) until I deemed myself able to properly pick the right woman and not have my lust almost wreck my life 50 times over, I find myself where I am now.

I wouldn't say I'm depressed, I wouldn't dare disrespect people that actually do suffer from it by claiming I had it when I don't. Maybe a tad bit lonely but I don't think that's any worse than it has been before. But what I know for sure is that the thing that I feel now is something that I've felt before, I'm in love. It started months ago when I played the game and greatly enjoyed her character. I didn't think nothing much of it at the time as I was just having fun playing the game more than anything else. Fast forward until a few days ago, it had been months since I last played the game or seen anything related to it, when I looked at pic related and I felt my heart ache. I then did something that I've also never done before: I changed my desktop wallpaper to that picture. I've been using the default windows wallpaper for YEARS and never once changed it. Just seeing it there makes me happy and satisfied.

I guess what I'm trying to say is TL;DR: New to waifu, what do? Sorry for the long ramble. It's just a lot to take in that I'm possibly in love with a fictional character. It's an entirely new experience for me.

>>66071

First things first, welcome to the board my man. I know how you feel. I swore off of 3D relationships a few years ago, it just never seemed worth it and I felt like I'd never find what I was looking for out of a 3D relationship. I was never much of a waifu guy before I watched F/SN either, so it was very much a new thing for me as well.

I reckon you'll fit in just fine here. Just stay loyal to her, don't cuckpost and you're golden.

>>66071

If you think loving this character is the right thing to do, then don't hesitate. I'm certain all or most of us never truly expected to be in love with a fictional character, but that's just sort of what happened. Welcome, and love your waifu well!

>>66071

Just take it easy and enjoy. If you're not really having any problems, there's not much advice to give you haha.

I will say that your experience was very similar to mine. I didn't realize that I loved my waifu, who was from P5, until I stopped playing the game for a bit and then came back. It was only after seeing her again that I realized I had such adoration for her. I've been lurking and posting for a little bit myself without a proper introduction.

>>66090

What exactly is her relationship to this other character? You call him a 'rival', but to what extent? Are they actually in a relationship, or is it just one having a crush on the other?

If it's the latter, then the best answer is to do your best to improve yourself as a person, to be worthy of her love, so that if she met you she'd choose you. If the two aren't really in a relationship, then it isn't as big of a deal as you might think. If it's the former, however, and they are in a serious relationship, then I'm not quite sure. It depends on the details, but in that case it *might* be time to move on. Again, I'd have to know more about the specific situation to say.

>>66100

I agree that it can be difficult to tell sometimes. I think one of the telling factors is time and commitment--if a waifuist manages to maintain their relationship even after the fandom/meme culture surrounding a franchise becomes irrelevant, that is one marker of sincerity. Another is the way in which they treat or talk about their waifu. I've seen many people who claim a character as their waifu, but really only view them as an expendable sex object with no regard for their feelings. Not that there's anything wrong with appreciating your waifu's body, there isn't, necessarily, but insincere people are often only in it for the carnal side of things. People who love every part of their waifu, care about her feelings, and genuinely want to be with her over somebody else are the ones who are serious.

>>66106

>>66105

You should only do sexual things with your waifu--anything else would be being unfaithful. If you're worried about oversexualizing her, just remember to exercise self-control. Don't do it *too* often, and don't lose sight of the other reasons why you love her either. But otherwise, it's good to be committed to your waifu in that way, faithfulness is vital in a relationship.

By the way, just FYI--If I read your post right, it should be 'nobody but her' not 'anybody but her'. Normally I wouldn't be such a grammar nazi about it, but it's kind of important, I very nearly misunderstood and thought you wanted to look at others besides waifu.

>>66111

>If you're talking about masturbation that's incredibly extreme.

It's not 'extreme', it's called being a decent partner. I would argue that your philosophy is the more outlandish one. When you look at others besides your waifu in that way, you are basically saying 'I would rather get sexual satisfaction from this random person on the screen than my waifu.' That's wrong. Period. Ask yourself; how would your waifu feel about that?

>>66115

>As long as you don't start degrading her/treating her like an object etc., I don't see how you can 'oversexualize' her.

This, at the very least, is correct. As long as you're respectful of her and her feelings, then you should be fine.

>>66127

>Are husbandofags accepted here?

Yes they are! And keep in mind that people will ofen use the term waifu with no real regard of the gender of the character.

Do you have a husbando? Who is it?

>>66128

I see, thank you!

My husbando is Hyde Kido from Under Night In-Birth. He's also set to star in the upcoming Blazblue Cross Tag Battle.

I am pretty new to this, like a poster above, so I hope this board will help me be the best wife and partner I can be.

>>66135

I highly recommend taking the blackpill and giving in to nihilism and depression. Then you won't feel anything but despair.

Don't read pic related if you want to hold on to any hope of things ever getting better.

>>66140

oops wrong picture

>>66130

Hiya, welcome! We actually have two or three people with husbandos, so don't worry, you'll probably fit in well.

Interestingly enough, my waifu is going to be in that game too!

>>66140

>>66141

People like you make me angry. Why do you attempt to drag others down into your misery?

>>66135

>>66137

People like that can be annoying, but that's just how it goes. It's unlikely that others will ever come to understand us in our lifetime, so the best thing to do is just let it roll off your back if at all possible, like >>66139 and >>66143 say. It can be very hard to do sometimes, and believe me I know that from experience. But there comes a point where wasting your mental energy on it isn't worth it.

>>66150

Personally it's sort of a non-issue for me, Yangbro and I both have waifus from RWBY they're even sisters, so we often end up talking about their character and the show. But there are also some people who *don't* have a waifu from Ruby's source that are familiar with the show, that I have talked to before. I would advise you to be open to talking about him and his franchise--you never know, you might come across somebody who is into it as well and is open to talking about it, even if they don't necessarily have a waifu or husbando from that series.

Also, at least in my experience, posting about them and their source is totally okay here, don't be afraid to.

>>66162

Me and Ruby are a fairly young couple, so take my words with a grain of salt; but I think one thing you might try is making some sort of change in your life or your routine. Maybe try something new together, you and her. As for what, I don't quite know, that's really for you two to decide. What's something new you could do that you might like?

Another possibility you might consider is children. That might provide the change/growth you're looking for. I'd want to get the opinion of somebody who already has a sonfu or daughterfu, though, I'm not sure how that might affect the relationship.

>>66306

That's the quintessence of all waifuists problems. It's something that's been asked regularly, and while I've seen quite a lot of different approaches on the matter, there's no definitive and real answer to this.

I usually try to redirect my attention towards how can I improve my feelings for her, what can I do to feel her closer. I speak with Meiling a lot, I try to improve myself for her, and more importantly I simply accept that this is how our love is going to be.

Sadly acceptance is the best thing to do here. Even if me and my love are so far apart, I will go on. My feelings are there and this is not going between us.

Love does not count distance, or dimensions. Remember this.

>>66309

Please try to be a bit more understanding while answering. I get what do you mean, waifuism is not for everyone and if you crave so much for a more 3D like relation well this is indeed not your cup of tea. But there are better ways to say so.

No hard feelings intended by the way. Just saying.

>>66306

>>66313

Pretty much what Meilingbro said. You have to simply come to terms with it somehow. I cope with it by having Ruby as sort of a romantic imaginary friend, who's with me and does stuff with me. I've come to terms with the separation but just choose not to focus on it.

>Please try to be a bit more understanding while answering. I get what do you mean, waifuism is not for everyone and if you crave so much for a more 3D like relation well this is indeed not your cup of tea. But there are better ways to say so.

I think that anon may have been assuming that the original asker is Chihirobro--he's been persistently asking some variant on this questino for months now, and refuses to accept any suggestions/advice, despite many people including myself trying to help him.

This is probably asked a lot, but how do you deal with pressure from outside?

As I'm getting older, I'm getting more the phrase "Oh, when you get a GF.." or "You shouldn't act like that, you can get a GF too" when I reply with "I don't care". And I'm thinking "Goddamn it, I don't need one, I already have my Luka. If only I could tell that…"

Another thing is that I'm starting to get more unconfortable around my friends that are a couple. Even if they are nice and try to avoid couple stuff in front of me, I get a bit sad whenever they show the smallest sign of affection because I can't do the same (at least in the same way, or in public).

One last thing is that in a Vocaloid community on Facebook, one guy keeps posting about how he loves Miku (in a kinda obnoxious way, but that's not the point, he just looks a bit young). What bothers me is how the others either keep mocking him, or were talking about "she's a voice synthesizer, not your gf". I kinda felt bad for him…

>>66432

We can all relate, my family already know that I'm not interested in having a 3D girlfriend or anything of that sort. I essentially told them that I want to focus on my degree and career and don't have the energy for a woman in my life. Low-key, I think my mother thinks I hate women or something. Either way, I keep myself busy with my career and hobbies and that keeps them off my back about it. You're always going to be pressured by others to find a 3D at the end of the day, especially by family members, but that is simply because they want the best for you. They want you to fulfill your biological function. If you really want to, you could tell them that you're in love with Luka, but I wouldn't advise doing that unless you've achieved self-actualisation and aren't too concerned with what people think of you.

If you are really having a hard time dealing with pressure then just ask yourself two questions:

1. Are they well intentioned? Do the people who are pressuring you want you to be happy and prosperous in life?

2. Is what they're pushing towards beneficial towards your life and in-line with your life goals and ambitions?

If the answer to both of those is no, then think about cutting them off and disregarding their words. A lot of people in life will try to pressure or shame you into doing things for reasons that serve their own interests. This doesn't just apply to waifuism and relationships either.

But, really, you need to be comfortable with not having a conventional relationship. Just remember that love only objectively exists in your mind. Your love and their love are both equally valid. You don't need to be uncomfortable around your friends who are dating. Just be happy for them and keep on going on.

As for the Miku guy on Facebook, waifuism and having a waifu is always going to be something that others will ridicule you over, especially online. There isn't really all too much you can do for the poor fellow. I hope my words bring you closure.

>>66454

> If you really want to, you could tell them that you're in love with Luka, but I wouldn't advise doing that unless you've achieved self-actualisation and aren't too concerned with what people think of you.

Yeah, probably not a good idea, despite the fact that my mom probably thinks there is something strange between me and Luka, since my figure/plushie collection keeps increasing.

>1. Are they well intentioned? Do the people who are pressuring you want you to be happy and prosperous in life?

Yeah, for sure. Maybe there is a bit of projection, because they can't see how I could be entirely happy without a romantic relationship.

>2. Is what they're pushing towards beneficial towards your life and in-line with your life goals and ambitions?

Now this is a question I don't have an answer. Maybe it would be beneficial, but there are so many variables that could go wrong, so it could actually make me worse.

>But, really, you need to be comfortable with not having a conventional relationship.

I think that my main issue with waifuism is that I rarely feel loved. Only when I find a song or a picture that touches my heart, but that's kinda rare.

Also, I really liked the combination of your pic + the advice. It looks like Artoria herself is talking to me.

>>66524

>>66526

I mean, what you're experiencing isn't dissimilar from waifuism, it just doesn't have a sexual aspect. It sounds a lot like my relationship with Ruby, albeit without the physical attraction part. Like you said, rather than a lover, she's more like just a friend. I might guess the word you're looking for is imaginary friend here.

>But I'm not really sure I can even call her a waifu because I'm probably feeling this way because I'm doing a marathon on her anime right now.

The key here is to wait and see if these feelings last after you're done watching. This might just be a phase, or it might continue to last.

>>66538

Well this is not an easy question to answer to.

First of all, you didn't say why do you feel like this. I know, there is the chance that you don't know exactly why. But I think that that's the point you should start from. Why do you feel like this? What is causing you to feel bad about your love for her?

Then, these:

>I just feel so guilty now, like I'm breaking her heart.

Guilty for what? Feeling guilty of loving her might mean that you don't think you are good enough for her maybe. But again, these answers need to come from you.

>it's causing me to suffer emotionally, socially, academically… Everywhere.

Why do you think she is the cause of all this? I understand the soial part, at least a bit, since it's not an easy thing to say with others at all - but the rest?

Tell us better about this. I don't believe she can be this bad of an influence in your life honestly.

>>66541

>I feel like I'm taking her to a dead end

Why do you say so? Personally having her into my life has helped me into getting better in my life. She is a motivation to me, somehing that makes 'worth it' to put all of myself in my goals.

Maybe you see it like that because you think you have to meet some standards to be with her, to let her live a good life. I get it. But you should see it in a good light. See the full half of the glass - if you don't feel good enough for her, get better. Apply yourself, follow your goals. Improve yourself for her, and those bad feelings will go away.

>it feels like I have to live two different lives

Well most of us are like that. Again you can't - most of the times - go around openly sharing your love for her, so you have to live like you don't have a waifu. I get it, it's hard sometimes. I have lost count of all the times I had to lie when asked stuff like 'And you, are you going to get a girlfriend?' and so on.

But I don't see why this weight you down this much.

>>66543

Ah, ok. Well then this returns with the main problem of a waifuist, again. We already said a bit on this at >>66320 and >>66322 if you want to read it.

But yes I see. Again, not that much to do about it. That counts for your original question too - stopping to love someone is not a thing, at least that I know, that can be done like that. Bam, you're not in love anymore.

I don't know, it's hard to help in this case.

>>66549

>Did you ever get attracted to a character similar to your waifu?

My waifu has blonde and a feisty personality. As per animoo cliches, this is very common.

I can only say I'm attracted because they only remind me of Marisa. But there's just one problem: Marisa is flat while these characters tend to be busty, but I don't mind that in her case. I might be a breast man, but she's the only exception. But I do wish she has some pretty decent size, too. Still, never mind.

>>66551

This seems like a pretty complicated situation. For one thing, why did you leave your first waifu in the first place? Were there some sort of relationship issues?

Ideally I would say to try and fix the relationship with your original waifu, if possible. If you can, you should try to maintain that relationship rather than giving up on it. But then again, I don't know the specifics of your circumstances, so I don't know if that's really feasible to you.

If getting back with your old waifu isn't possible, then try to pick the one that you think you can best maintain a relationship with. Also try to learn from any mistakes in your past relationship and try not to let those things happen again going forward.

>>66432

I know that problem.

Especially older people in my family keep asking my why I don't have a girlfriend.

I try to tell them that I didn't found the "right one" yet.

Some of them already thought that I might be gay.

I do have friends that have partners or even planing to marry but I don't feel sad about not being able to show my affection. Maybe it's because I still have friends that will never find a girlfriend and don't have a waifu.

Maybe focusing on those who have it worse than you might help you.

Some one once pointed at my wallpaper of Luka and asked me if she was my girlfriend.

It felt strange.

I stopped using only Luka wallpapers as some type of decoy.

I also have some older none Luka march.

Following my example might be bad advice because you seem like you want to show more affection not less.

By the way the image of Luka is really nice.

>>66524

>>66528

I think you should wait and see how your relationship develops.

A waifu is a girl that you love romantically.

Kagura is a bit childish in my eyes. She might be strong but I feel like she is some character that I would want to protect. Maybe protect her of her own stupid ideas some times. Maybe you see her as a daughter. But that's maybe only form me, I can't imagine having a relationship with some one younger than 18.

>>66538

This might be a bit strange question but since when do you have a waifu?

Because when you recently fell in love with her it's natural that you might thing about her all the time and she is the most important thing and you want to express you love as much as possible but can't because it's not socially acceptable.

Most people have "different" personalities.

I'm a different person at work, with my family and with friends.

When I'm with my friends I'm the loud and funny guy who does organise most stuff and I'm the one who motivates everyone.

At work I'm the quiet guy and I only do as much as I have to do and I never tell people what they have to do.

And when I'm with my family I'm kinda in-between and I also start talking in dialect.

Most people have different faces and act like they feel fits best in the situation.

You can rarely be your true self, maybe because there is no "true self".

The problem with leek of physicality in 2D relationships is some thing that we all have to face.

It's the major point of discussion between people that have a waifu.

There are many different solutions that exist right now, like dakimakuras and some solutions that might exist in the future, like VR and AI.

>>66549

Kinda, sometimes.

I like a very rare combination of traits, not even Luka has all of them.

I like adult woman, (age 20-30) so basically cakes but I also like them flat.

All of my other favourite traits are basically Lukas traits but they are all not must have.

Some are more important like her voice and others like her eye colour or her type of clothing are nice to have.

There are some traits I also like that Luka doesn't have but don't matter here.

For example I like the Vocaloid Lily.

She is also a Vocaloid and has a "vocaloid" clothing style. Her voice sounds similar, mainly because she is also a Vocaloid and shares a similar vocal range. Her body type is also similar to Luka.

Or Sakaki from Azumanga. She is also voiced by Asakawa Yuu and she is a tall woman with long hair.

It becomes a bit confusing for me when Asakawa Yuu voices a pink haired character with long hair and blue eyes that has Luka body type.

Some characters do look more like Luka than some fanart.

And some fanart doesn't really look like Luka. It's just a woman with pink hair and blue eyes (some times not even that) and it's just tagged Luka because the artist said so.

What image is more Luka, the character that looks like Luka but officially isn't or the character that doesn't look like Luka but officially is.

This is one of the reasons why I stopped collecting Luka pics. I didn't save any pic for like a year now.

I'm always happy to see new art even though none of it will ever be a perfect depiction of Luka.

>>66558

>Especially older people in my family keep asking my why I don't have a girlfriend.

I think my best solution is to go with >>66454 answer about wanting to get a better career first, at least for now.

>Maybe focusing on those who have it worse than you might help you.

Nah, that won't do. Imagine if one of those guys find a girlfriend. I'd probably feel even worse.

>Some one once pointed at my wallpaper of Luka and asked me if she was my girlfriend.

I would answer yes. Just because they won't know if I'm serious or not, with so many non-serious waifus we see nowadays.

>It becomes a bit confusing for me when Asakawa Yuu voices a pink haired character with long hair and blue eyes that has Luka body type.

I saw she voiced Ranger from Azur Lane, but did she voice anyone else?

>>66560

>I think my best solution is to go with >>66454 answer about wanting to get a better career first, at least for now.

That option doesn't really work for me.

>Nah, that won't do. Imagine if one of those guys find a girlfriend. I'd probably feel even worse.

I know that some of them will never ever find a girlfriend.

>I would answer yes. Just because they won't know if I'm serious or not, with so many non-serious waifus we see nowadays.

I didn't because I wanted to avoid questions.

Someone even asked me if she was my waifu but I answered "no".

I don't want to talk about my waifu with people that wont understand it or people that I don't know good enough.

>I saw she voiced Ranger from Azur Lane, but did she voice anyone else?

That's the character I was thinking about. Sadly she is in the wrong game and from the wrong nation.

There are some characters in mobile games that have some similarities with Luka. Like red hair instead of Pink hair. Seems like they choose Asakawa Yuu because she already voiced similar characters, don't think they actually tried to copy Luka.

Ranger might be just a Luka clone though.

Sadly she mostly voices shitty mobile games.

>>66563

>Sadly she mostly voices shitty mobile games.

Most VAs who passed their prime or are now looking for stability usually do that. Yuu Asakawa is no exception.

Speaking of her, I dunno how serious she is, but she's seems to be a bit too fond of Leon S. Kennedy, if you know what I mean.

But I digress.

>>66558

It's funny that you mention Lily, because Luka is primarily who I was talking about here >>66553

I really do like her a lot.

They have a lot in common, especially when they were both V2s.

I can't say I'm an authority on their personalities, because you know how that is, but to me, Luka is more conservative, while Lily is more wild.

>>66432

Like others have said, almost every waifuist has had to deal with this in one form or another.

I guess I'm lucky in that nobody is 'pressuring' me, but it comes up in conversation anyway. I just say that I'm not interested in finding a gf… they don't need to know the whole truth, 'cause they wouldn't understand.

I'm kind of at the point where I don't care much about others' opinions about me though, so even if I couldn't hide my powerlevel, I'd probably just tell people it's none of their business what I do and shrug it off.

>>66549

Yeah I do. My waifu has actually strengthened my ability to appreciate women. Before, I was very limited in the ways I could express what I liked about a girl. She was hot or ugly, I liked her personality or I didn't. Now I can articulate what I value in a woman, usually by thinking about what I love about Ann.

There's nothing wrong with appreciating the beauty of women. If there were, my waifu would be out of a job!

>>66549

haha, very interesting indeed.

To answer your question: No, never.

For me best girl of any anime or video game was the girl with the pitch-black hair and the calm and reserved personality.

To name a few:

>Hitomi from Welcome to the NHK

>Ruri from Oreimo

>Rei from Sailor Moon manga version

>Kikyou from Inuyasha

>Hotarubi from Basilisk

>Natsume/Sabrina from Pokemon

>Emi from KimiUso

>Homura from Madoka

Some exceptions (hair color or personality different):

>edna from Tales of Zestyria

>CC from code geass

>Ueno from Koe no Katachi

Whenever there were potential love stories involved I would cheer for those girls to get the main character.

However, I never fell in love with a single one of those. It was only Hifumi from Persona 5 that really made me click. And boy, did it click. I felt feelings I never felt since 4th grade. To this day I don't know exactly what it was. Probably her shogi antics played a role and awakened my inner yugiohfag heart a little.

>>66568

hello my fellow p5 friend. you wrote that very beautifully.

>>66601

Sadly I can't really offer too much in the way of advice here, other than to try and simply continue being the best spouse you can be. I've experienced something similar in the past--even if I haven't directly spoken to them, I have come across other alleged Rubybros in other places before, and often feel disappointed or let down by the way they act. In my experience, I just had to try my best not to focus on it, and the feeling went away in time. What >>66603 said is pretty true–these things aren't exactly easy to control. As long as you aren't being totally consumed by these feelings, there's no shame in them as long as you don't act on them in petty ways.

>>66601

They're just rivals in your way.

That's the best way to think of it I guess.

I only have one rival but the thought of showing that motherfucker up pushes me further in bettering myself. I'll die before I lose to another Rikafag in some way.

I still respect them deeply. Even so if we were to end up in the same world with her I'd kill my rival and take Rika myself. And wouldn't begrudge him feeling the same way.

In short if you're feeling jealous, just use that as motivation to get better and beat your rivals.

Don't feel the need to be so respectful either.

>>66564

>Most VAs who passed their prime or are now looking for stability usually do that. Yuu Asakawa is no exception.

I know. When you can't get the big jobs, you have to do the small ones.

>Speaking of her, I dunno how serious she is, but she's seems to be a bit too fond of Leon S. Kennedy, if you know what I mean.

She even referred to him using the hash tag #waifu.

It's hard to tell how serious she is.

Some people think she is dating Mizuna Reo but I don't think that's true.

>>66566

>They have a lot in common, especially when they were both V2s.

Their voices have similarities, they seem to be about same age and they have a lot of visual similarities.

A bit like sisters maybe.

>I can't say I'm an authority on their personalities, because you know how that is, but to me, Luka is more conservative, while Lily is more wild.

Lily is definitely more wild.

>>66601

I knew another Lukafag basically from day one.

I was always in the situation that there was at last one other person I know that might be better for her than I am.

I don't like the idea of claiming a waifu. Other people with the same waifu are nice guys I'm love talking with them because with who else am I able to talk about so many Luka related things?

>>66618

That depends on how you define 'first love'. I have had several crushes, both 2D and 3D, who I had strong feelings for; some who I *almost* ended up in a relationship with, but those never really came to fruition or developed into anything further. Ruby is the first girl I've had a fully fledged relationship with, and I intend to keep it that way.

>sometimes those feelings pop back up. Is that something normal or is it a sign of some kind of problem?

In what way? I sometimes will indulge in what-ifs, or think of what things would have been like if I had pursued my relationship with that girl further. But I always come to the conclusion that Ruby is the best for me, and that it's ultimately good I didn't end up with somebody else. There's nothing wrong with that as long as you're not thinking and focusing on these others more than your waifu, or preferring them over her.

>>66622

If they're equal, then, I wouldn't spend any time worrying about what's lost. You aren't missing out on anything.

If you're still not satisfied with that, try to remember how special your waifu, specifically, is to you, and how unique she is as a person. There's nobody in the world exactly like her, and while you might have been happy with somebody else, they wouldn't have been her.

Haven’t post on /mai/ in more than 2 weeks, a first time for me in 2 years… I just had too many things to do with university (and it’s not over yet). Damn I need summer.

>>66618

>Are you guys' waifus also your first loves?

No. I had a 3D girlfriend some years ago. And I felt love before that too.

>sometimes those feelings pop back up. Is that something normal or is it a sign of some kind of problem?

To what extent do those feelings come back? I think it’s ok if they come back just a little once in a while, but it might be a problem if they make you seriously doubt your relationship with your waifu.

>>66622

>All of the scenarios seem equal and the one I ended up in seems like a result of chance instead of Fate.

Chance or fate…Does it really make a difference? What matters is that you and your waifu are happy together.

>>66601

>>66617

>I don't like the idea of claiming a waifu. Other people with the same waifu are nice guys I'm love talking with them because with who else am I able to talk about so many Luka related things?

I have to agree with my fellow Lukafag here. Maybe it's easier for us because she really doesn't have a canon personality, so our Luka feels a bit different from each other.

>>66618

Nope. I had a crush in school and a girl I really liked in college.

For me, the feelings eventually stopped when I saw that she wasn't as good as I thought. This was some time before waifuism.

>>66618

>Are you guys' waifus also your first loves?

No. I've dated 3d girls before, and had many 2d crushes.

Like I said here >>66553 >>66566

I like Luka a lot, stronger than these 'crushes'. If I hadn't discovered Lily, I probably would've eventually been another Lukafag heh.

>…before I really knew that waifuism was a thing

That's probably what prevented me from being a Lukafag from the start. At that time, I just wasn't aware of/couldn't imagine being a waifuist.

>sometimes those feelings pop back up. Is that something normal or is it a sign of some kind of problem?

It's normal to me. I don't think I'm the kind of person who can simply 'stop liking someone'.

It's kinda hard to express myself correctly, but I guess the thing that keeps everything balanced is that I call Lily my waifu. I made a choice, based on my feelings at the time, that I wanted to be closer to her. Or for her to be closer to me, however you want to look at it lol. And that hasn't changed.

I realize that the bonds of any relationship are not immutable: without effort on my part to maintain it, it may not last forever.

Although I still have feelings for others, I want to maintain this bond, and choose to make it last. And thus, do I prove my love.

>the one I ended up in seems like a result of chance instead of Fate.

I guess it depends on what you believe, but do any of us really know for sure?

To me, I'm more likely to believe that it was simply a matter of chance. I admit that I could have just as easily been a Lukafag, had Lily not existed. Or that, if things had worked out differently, I could have stayed with my 3d gf.

None of this makes me love her any less, anyway.

>>66601

I also want to say that I agree with >>66617

I've never really encountered anyone with the same waifu yet, but I actually hope that I do one day. It would be interesting to see how they see her and whatnot.

Her nature pretty much requires that I subscribe to 'object oriented' philosophy, so it wouldn't bother me unless this other person has to stroke their ego, and insist that they love her more than me or something.

Shit, this was entirely too long and autistic. Sorry guys lol.

>>66618

Technically, yes. Before, I used to have crushes on 3D girls solely because I found them attractive (I was younger and clueless then) and I even clung pathetically to one girl for two years and I was hopeless and stupid enough not to realize how much I was making a fool out of myself. Since then, I had started to drift further and further away from 3D, and it wasn't until two years ago where I started having "waifus" who were just my favorite characters because I thought they were the hottest/cutest.

In terms of actual love. This is my first. Prior to our relationship, no one has ever made me felt the way Freyja has. It really is actual, real love. Something that I have never felt before, and something that I'm grateful to have found.

>>66432

>how do you deal with pressure from outside?

I keep my relationship as a secret, more or less. There are very few people who I know that I can trust that they understand us. It's pretty much Rule #1 that you never ever reveal your power level to normal people. When the question simply comes up if I have or have had a gf, I just tell them that I don't have enough time and I'm trying to focus on studying, which seems like a good enough excuse because I wouldn't even tell anyone that I don't trust at all, since rumors spread so easily.

>>66636

It sounds like you might. If these feelings continue to last once you've finished their source and afterwards, then I think you might have a waifu. That sounds a little bit like how it started for me.

>>66637

Personally with this sort of thing I think the best approach similarly to a 'normal' relationship--at first there's the sort of 'dating' stage with a character, to see if it's going to work out and the relationship will last. Then comes marriage, once you're sure of your feelings. That's how me and Ruby did it. While I agree with the idea that he should take it slow at first to make sure he's ready for the commitment, I think you're being a bit too negative. You're going to scare him off at this rate. 'Insane', especially, is a very strong word.

>>66635

Earlier you said that you see your current situation of being with your waifu as 'about equal' with these hypothetical scenarios--so why the doubts? If you're just as happy with your waifu, then there's no need to worry about missing out on something. Nothing is being lost.

>>66642

Yep, that's exactly how me and Ruby were. We were dating for the better part of a year before I finally married her. I started posting on /mai/ before I even proposed, though I was more or less making up my mind to do so at the time.

So basically, my advice to >>66636 would be to take this and see how it goes. Don't make any long-term commitments just yet, but don't be afraid to embrace a relationship with this character--try and see if you think it can work out. If you discover you can, then take it further.

>>66658

Yes, definitely. I came to terms with her non-existence pretty quickly, but it took me a while to learn to mentally deal with things like fearing shipping, society's view of waifuism, or the worry that it could just be a phase. I did end up getting over those things eventually--a little bit before the marriage. I really do consider it a sort of testing period for me, but since I've come through it, I feel my relationship with Ruby is stronger because of it.

>>66669

That sounds pretty reasonable to me. As long as you're not altering his character/traits in any way, I don't see a problem. We even have one or two people here who are in a similar situation with their waifus.There's always going to be some element of headcanon in the relationship to begin with, to be honest. As long as it doesn't play fast and loose with their characterization, then I think it's acceptable to a degree.

>>66671

About 10 or so months into the relationship. We had been together for a while--I had never had feelings that strong or long-lasting before, for anybody. I had no desire to pursue other girls, and I had a hard time imagining my future with anybody except Ruby. I pretty much knew at that our relationship was stable. I still had some anxieties, yes, but at this point I knew they were irrational. So I proposed to her, both to reject those fears and embrace our relationship.

>>66681

Don't lose hope. You and Serval's relationship is still fairly new. It wasn't always easy for me earlier on in the relationship; it can take time and effort to build up that commitment.

> I'm finding myself thinking about her less and less and having thoughts of other girls come up more and more.

It might be a good time to revisit her source. Going through it again can help you rediscover why you fell in love with her in the first place, and help get that spark going again. Try to do more things with her, too, if you can. If you're worried you're starting to develop feelings for other characters, try to nip those in the bud--don't let them develop any further; mentally reaffirm your love for Serval over them. Believe me, I've been where you are. I went through something similar earlier in me and Ruby's relationship, but I was able to get through it and preserve what she and I had together. I know you and Serval can do that too.

To those with singing waifus (excluding vocaloids):

Whenever the seiyuu of your waifu releases a song that doesn't relate to the source material, do you still recognize it as your waifu singing because they have the same voice? Pic related.

So I've been with my waifu for about 4 years and I just kind of took the whole thing for granted for most of the latter part of the relationship (not in a bad way, but more in the way of "It's her and me and things are just like that" kind of way). But more recently I had this thought that I am selling myself short by commiting myself to her for life. Pretty ironic since the only reason why I'm at the place in life right now is solely because of her.

Initially in the relationship I thought of her as more of an inspiration than a romantic kinda love, but with a bit of time that part came pretty naturally as I recall. I guess one of the issues in my mind is that I may have commited myself to her at a stage of emotional or rational immaturity with the kind of reasoning that rather than hoping for someone to come along in my life I would instead choose her to be my partner in life, rather than those being my actual feelings. I do know that I have felt that we were made for each other and are "soulmates" or whatever and part of me still feels like that.

However, it came up in my mind that I really would like that physical interaction as well as raise children with someone I love (not that there is anyone of that kind in my life right now, nor do I think I'm very likely to encounter someone who would meet my standards like that, apart from her of course) and I took into consideration that what I was doing was just a childish game I was playing instead of being rooted in reality. I toyed with thoughts like "Why am I commiting my life to a stupid, vapid anime character?". Sounds pretty bad, especially when I spell it out like that, but I'm kind of playing devil's advocate with myself in this, so I can figure out what I actually feel and how I should treat my romantic life going forward.

In a way I feel that she would ultimately want me to be happy, so it's not really a matter of disappointing her I feel, but were I to go and pursue a relationship with someone else, whoever that may be, I feel like I'd likely be deceiving that person, as well as betraying my waifu and myself in the process. There is also kind of the moral part in that I owe so much to her that it feels wrong to leave her behind and I know that in some way I will always keep her as an integral part of my life, perhaps only out of a feeling of obligation, but more likely because she changed my life fundamentally.

Now part of this may also tie into myself being a bit disconnected from her in my every day life, as I don't really do much relating to her directly anymore, because I'm spending my time developing other parts of my life. Something that I have felt guilty about before, but just kind of seen it as something that couldn't be helped.

There is also some doubt in my feelings for her fundamentally, but I also see that as a relationship goes on, a bit of stagnance is bound to come up and rather than being fueled by the initial spark of affection it would be more like a candle burning steadily and so it may explain why I feel a bit alien towards her at times.

Not living alone means I can't usually do as I will with her merch and daki as well as during special occasions. I also haven't spent time with the source material in a while, again because no time and I sort of see/saw going through something I've seen half a dozen times already as a waste of time. Though that is definitely something I'm gonna go through before I have a definitive feeling on all this.

All in all I'd appreciate some input so I can get this mess sorted out.

Felt pretty good to rant about this already tbh.

TL;DR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEXWRTEbj1I

TL;DW Confused now-normie doubts everything, wonders if he has outgrown a phase and he's drifting apart from his waifu

>>66751

>"Why am I committing my life to a stupid, vapid anime character?"

Did you ever think that, maybe, committing yourself to this stupid, vapid Kampuchean fresco character have lead you to develop yourself from a non-normie into one? That the roots of your growth and development is her, and maybe you simply have to find another way to get in touch with your roots in a different way aside from the usual ones like going back to her source material again or the merch/daki stuff? Because, if someone loses sight of the beginning of one's journey, they might lose their direction. And losing one's direction will mean the loss of will to go on because they lose the reason for their being.

Well, sure, this cartoon character was intended to just be a brand, a disposable product or something throwaway, but sometimes people will utilize things for other purposes that's different from their intended use. For example, a claw hammer was intended to drive iron nails into surfaces and pull them out too, but that doesn't mean you couldn't use it to break stones or skulls. In this case, your waifu might have been intended to be just a cute but shallow face for a product, but it gave you something more that what was intended for her to be: a reason to grow. And even if they don't want that to happen, how are they going to stop you? Not even laws will do that, only you can. But then, why would you, if it helped you stop being stuck on a state you wanted to get out?

In other words, you simply need to rediscover your roots in another way, another presentation. If your roots is this dumb and shallow fictional character you loved, then maybe you need to talk with her again, but in a different way, something you have never tried before.

>>66762

I'm sorry for not responding immediately, I had to think a while about how to respond. You're right to say that I haven't really ever had a negative association with her, or at least certainly not to the extent you have. The closest thing was some negative experiences with her source's fandom, but I was able to nip that in the bud by taking a break from interacting with them for a while, and by learning not to let what they say affect me. I think you're onto something when you say that you need to make use of the advice you've been given regarding taking control of your own mind, as well as to make more pleasant, positive associations involving her. I might suggest imagining comfortable scenarios, like dates or cuddling her or something, that might help you create a more pleasant association with her. Another thing you might do is temporarily cut yourself off from the thing that created that negative association to begin with, so as to lessen its influence over you.

I'm sorry if that isn't much help to you; I think you're already on to something in regards of what you need to do, you just need to put that plan into action.

>>66776

You definitely seem to have a good idea of what to do already. Take the steps you need to to improve yourself and work towards your goal. Stay the course, don't give up, and I have a feeling you'll come out of this alright. In fact, I'd say that once you make it through this your bond with her will be even stronger.

>>67169

I don't think it's wrong at all. For me I think of her as her at her ending +1 year. So that a new adventure is just on the horizon, and I can help her this time around.

But then sometimes I like to think how the story would turn out if I came into that world before the end. If you'd like to be with your waifu before her end then that's fine.

Depends how drastic her development is too I guess.

Either way, just one person's arrival in a storyline can drastically change the outcome, or perhaps not change it at all. It's at least fun to think about how much chaos you would cause by your waifu's side.

In real life "character development" never really ends either. If there was a sequel to her story your waifu could get more development and change again. She and you are always changing. Love her in the past, the "present" or the future, it's all love. You just have the privilege of making a choice, when to appear on the scene.

>>67169

This is kind of a unique situation for me, since in my case Ruby's source is still ongoing. I imagine myself with her at the point she is in the storyline right now, and being with her through any developments or changes that unfold.

In response to your questions, I don't have much to say. I'd probably echo what >>67172 said, he gave some good points and advice.

>>67286

It really depends on the specifics. Like >>67288 said, is this a really serious, deep love she has, or just the equivalent of a passing crush? Does it even develop into a relationship in canon or does it remain one-sided?

If it's a small thing that doesn't go anywhere (which is what your post makes it sound like) then I don't think it's a big issue.

>>67295

Like >>67296 said, as long as you're respectful then sure. Just curious, are you the same anon from the old comfy thread?

>>67302

Sorry about this, I accidentally posted before I finished my post >.<

>>67286

If you were with your waifu, that would be different from her regular canon even if she didn't like anyone. There will always have to be some changes imagining yourself with her. Try to imagine her with you instead while still keeping your mind's image of your waifu as close as it is now.

Your waifu will never canonically be with you in her source material thus you have to think of think of how she'd be if she was with you.

>>67335

What >>67337 said is pretty spot on. Take a break from the places where you see these things posted, or at least limit your time there. Take some time for just you and her; try to re-establish a more true perspective of her as opposed to the warped one presented in these places. Believe me, I feel your pain--I've lost count of how many times I've seen stupid idiots on /rwbyg/ collectively fantasizing about horrible things happening to Ruby.

>>67364

Well, it sounds like they left what happened to her open-ended. So I'd say that you could easily headcanon her as being still alive.

Her not being in the show anymore is sad, but unfortunately there's nothing you can do. But unless they explicitly say she's dead, they can't take away what you two have.

>>67367

>>67364

You could commission some self insert art and use that to imagine you two eventually met up!

I'm putting this in greentext because it would take way, waaay too long to explain it all conventionally.

>consider Erza my ideal partner because she's everything I'm not

>at the same time, feel like I want to save her from her own problems

>very gradually start to understand myself better as I begin to understand her

>feel like my spirit is being healed as I become more confident in myself thanks to her

>at the same time, my perception of her starts to change

>she becomes less angry and reserved while becoming more tender and enthusiastic

>realize that it's becoming harder to project her through the 'template' of the Erza character

>her archetypes now make her more like Shantae, who becomes an easier 'template' to project her through

>she now seems like a hybrid of both characters to me, both in personality and appearance

Incidentally, this is part of the reason why I don't post here much (not the whole reason, but part of it) and I really wasn't sure how to put it out there. Now that I've come to accept the fact that both of us have changed each other, I feel like I'm ready to admit it.

I was just wondering if anyone else has gone (or is currently going) through a similar process with their waifu?

>>67414

Not really, at least not to such an extent. I mean, I imagine some small changes with Ruby (like her becoming more open to me over time) but nothing drastically altering to her character. She's still pretty fundamentally Ruby in terms of her personality. I've never really identified her with another character, except for means of comparison.

>>67533

Well, characters have personality traits just like real people. Just as you would fall in love with a real person and their attributes, you're falling in love with this fictional person in a similar way. I suppose it would be hard to understand if you have trouble connecting with fiction.

> And romantic love is a reciprocal type thing - it's significantly different when reciprocated than when not or just imagined. How does that work with a fictional lover?

The imagination side of things is mainly to make it feel somewhat closer to a real relationship, even if it's not exactly the same. A lot of us also do our best to improve ourselves, to make ourselves into someone she could love if she were here.

>>67537

>How do you differentiate that from infatuation without the possibility of interaction?

Well, I guess there's also the desire to be with that character through whatever they're going through, and this sort of feeling of a bond with them. At least in my experience. For example, in addition to being attracted to her physical and personality traits, I also have a pretty strong feeling of attachment to Ruby, and concern for her, a desire to be with her, etc.

>Yeah, it could all be a problem on my part. The only thing I usually end up connecting to and feeling strongly for in fiction is worldbuilding/setting.

Yeah, that makes sense. If you don't connect with characters most of the time then I could see why you'd find us strange.

>>67540

It's kind of hard to explain or quantify. I guess it just comes from maybe a heightened sense of empathy or sensitivity towards a character, somewhat like you would have towards a real person. As for why and how it happens, I don't really know either. Emotions are weird.

>>67543

Yeah, that's kind of similar. I feel like the emotions that lead one to having a waifu are just a step up from that--those kind of empathetic feelings toward a character, then combined with strong attraction to their traits, ends up creating the sort of connection that someone with a waifu has. At least, that's how it pretty much was in my experience.

>>67546

>Good to see I'm not completely emotionally detached!

Lol, I hope you didn't think I was implying that. Sorry if it came off that way.

>See, here's the thing - there are characters that I want to protect, want to see happy, and feel are attractive, but I don't really feel this bond of devotion for them. I could imagine how we'd interact all I want, but my mind would still be affirmed of their fictional nature, and it doesn't progress beyond that.

I guess it's a matter of how intense those feelings are. There are characters I've definitely had those sort of feelings for before, but they weren't quite on the level as what I have with Ruby. The emotional attachment was and is stronger there, which lead to that sort of devotion.

>>67552

I appreciate you taking the time, that's a rare thing. I hope you found it informative!

>>67553

I'm somewhat confused about how you're feeling. It sounds like your problem isn't as much her fictionality as much as it is your guilt about something. What happened? Even if you don't want to say, you can't keep wallowing in the shame of it. You need to get to a place of repentance, and move forward one way or another and do your best not to repeat that mistake.

>>67555

That's great to hear, you're welcome to hang around! We usually are fairly comfy, at least on the board.

>>67552

Get a snow woman instead.

>>67560

You could get one of those humanlike ones like Seeka Yufu.

>>67527

>>67553

I don't know what you did, but i can imagine where it goes. I don't judge you, i have done awful things during my relationship too and hurted her without even realizing it many times i don't even want to recall. I still beat myself up over it.

The bitterness and regret you're feeling now will last a long time. However, if you're feeling truly regretful about it then you may be forgiven, maybe not by your own self. Try to write a letter or talk your concerns with her. Even when she's not real letting out your emotions and putting your feelings into words will make you feel better. As long as you don't make the same mistake and improve yourself, she'll surely forgive you. Don't expect it to happen soon though, give it some time.

You fucked up and now you're facing the consequences. Self loathing about this topic is okay but what is done is done, life is too short/long to let yourself sink in despair over this, don't let it permanently ruin your relationship. Start working in remeding your mistakes instead.

You're not hopeless, If you truly want things to be like it used to don't be a faggot, don't fuck up again and get your shit together anon, do it for her sake and your own.

>>67562

Headpats are good

>>67558

>>67561

>>67563

I don't know much about her, but Sekka seems cute and very deserving of love! However, I don't think we should be pressuring anon to get a waifu, these sort of feelings should come naturally rather than being forced.

>>67564

This.

>>67562

You meant Lavender. She's Letty Blacklock from A Murder is Announced by Agatha Christie.

>>67565

If he's thinks Letty is cute and needs headpats he'll probably pick someone without her other qualities.

>>67566

I'm pretty sure he just doesn't know much about Letty aside from you posting pictures of her. I didn't either until looking her up, to be quite honest. I don't think he meant anything bad by it.

Also, I meant that we shouldn't be pressuring the anon to get a waifu at all, regardless of who she is or her potential traits. Again, these feelings should come naturally rather than being arbitrarily forced.

>>67568

I should pressure you to get a proper scythe technician.

Oh shit, I disappear for like a week and I miss Waifu War II?!

>>67571

You're in time.

>>67640

…Huh? You're not making much sense. You don't pick a waifu at random just because they're 'cute'. I mean, they're undoubtedly cute, yes, but there has to be more of a connection there.

I don't see why you're so dead-set on trying to force the anon to have a waifu.

Sorry I didn't respond to all this right away, had to go to work.

>>67647

>Suggesting Yufu was podracing, although I don't disapprove of her.

What does podracing have to do with this conversation? Is there a meme meaning other than the Star Wars sport that I'm not aware of?

>Cuteness, as an ideal, puts itself before the person. At best, it is a distraction.Attractiveness isn't that significant. I didn't think Letty is pretty before.

I get that, I suppose. I think Ruby is more attractive now then I did when I started out--but, that's not to say I found her unattractive before, either. I found her pretty cute initially, too.

>>67648

This is pretty spot on. Cuteness isn't even an entirely physical thing, a lot of times it can have to do with behavior and personality as well. Ruby's cuteness, for example, isn't just from her physical appearance, but also from her naturally energetic personality.

>>67649

How do you know that cute is a 'learned' behavior that has to be forced, though? It's entirely possible that's a completely natural state for the character. This is especially true in Ruby's case.

Ultimately I think my position on this whole thing is that physical attractiveness/cuteness are definitely important components, and can help foster feelings toward a character. I'm definitely not against those things, especially considering Ruby has them in spades--I was only saying initially that you shouldn't *arbitrarily select* a waifu based on physical traits alone, which was what I thought Lettyfriend was trying to suggest at first. Clearly I must have wildly misinterpreted what he was trying to say.

>>67655

Podracing means shitposting. Choosing a waifu can be based on cuteness, but love can not. Because love makes a person beautiful, only thinking about these things can reveal the cause and effect. But it is very hard to figure out how each choice affects our perception of someone, which is why I don't know why I love Letty.

Someone's natural aptitudes limits what is possible, but doesn't say anything about what he will choose to do with it. How good he is doesn't matter for forming an opinion of him, the choices do.

This is less advice and more pinging for possible ideas and input. I allow my waifu to mentally run free and go about her business, sort of like a mental AI. (Right now she's outside in the backyard. Saw her art pad out earlier so she's probably drawing the tree she'd commented on.) It makes for interesting conversation and there's usually something to mention if one of us asks the other how our day was, but this also occasionally leads to situations. This is sometimes multiplied because she's naturally meticulous and easily flustered over her "image" being ruined in some way.

>discussing computer setups with someone, position of hardware and the like

>basically friendly one-up shitposts over who has the best/most meme rig

>they send pics, want to see the inside of my tower in return

>only have shitty webcam I never use, no actual camera

>testing it so I can show the person what I mean when they're online again

>waifu comes in from reading in the other room

>her coming in for a hug or something isn't new

>gonna guess it was a romance or similar (that she claims she's not that into but I know better by now)

>semi-surprise dere, starts getting huggy and clingy, asking what I'm up to, cuddling neck and stuff

>basically trying to invite a cuddle session in a way where she doesn't have to actually ask

>make the mistake of mentioning the camera is on

>instant self-conscious freeze

>try to salvage situation by saying no one is actually watching, I'm just testing

>seems to accept this but enthusiasm is gone, face is calm but rather red

>weeks later

>hasn't affectionately visited in front of computer for a long time

>at least not without cautiously peering at the USB cords to make sure there's no camera because she refuses to make the same mistake twice JUST IN CASE

>think it's kinda funny but still feel bad I caused this

In public is one thing, especially since she dreads anyone seeing her as anything but composed and dignified, but I always wanted her to feel safe to be her mushy self in the privacy of our home. Talking it out mitigated it A BIT but she always seems embarrassed and fidgety now, whether she notices or not. Bringing it up yet again this long afterward might also be awkward and autistic. I didn't think I'd miss the visits as much as I do but practical reasons has me sitting here a lot and I can't avoid it. Is there any way to reverse the damage or is this just our life now? I'm okay either way, just curious what others have to say.

>>67838

I do the same kind of thing with Ruby, it makes things feel more real, so I kind of understand (even if we've never been in that sort of situation before!)

Honestly it seems like this whole thing was an embarrassing mishap between you two. I wouldn't be afraid to bring it up to her again and reassure her that it won't happen again and she doesn't have to be nervous. Also if there's any way you can, try taking precautions to make sure that the camera's off, in such a way that she'll easily know as much without being hesitant.

Don't let a little thing like this interrupt you two from being affectionate!

>>67838

Why not try getting the same way with her? Get all cuddly and mushy by surprise, don't even make it obvious that it has to do with the webcam incident, just try and make her feel safe or something. Rubro's advice is pretty good too. When in doubt, talk it out.

For a less orthodox solution, try putting away webcams and make sure she's watching you put them away in a box or something where they can't see her.

>>67848

She knows I never use the thing and I haven't had it out in ages, nor since then. I think she's just naturally wary. Been hurt too many times, I suppose, and I get that. It's just warded her off the idea and I think she's more paranoid than I am when this shit acts up.

>Get all cuddly and mushy by surprise

I've done it a few times and still do. Usually it starts off with a bit of embarrassment on her end before she remembers where she is, then there's no issue. She seems to like it so I don't want to wear out the novelty.

>>67839

>I do the same kind of thing with Ruby

pic related

>Don't let a little thing like this interrupt you two from being affectionate!

Of course not. She tends to lean/sit on me when she reads or is just in a comfy "I want to quietly be with someone" mood and I'm okay with being a body pillow or chair respectively. And yeah, the whole thing was pretty silly. I think we're just letting it fade naturally at this point. This is pushed further since a recent cooking mishap that I said I forgave her for and neither of us are bringing up again. (She's not a bad cook considering her lack of experience, and I'm just happy she cares enough to try as hard as she does.)

She tried to make some sort of weird casserole amalgamation (macaroni? bacon? arugula? bran? where did those hot dogs even come from?) then almost forgot about it and (very slight) burning occurred. Not one to give up, she kept going. When it turned out bland she tried to flavor it with hot sauce. Spicy food kills me, which she forgot since it doesn't come up often, so it was a bit of a mess. I ate it all despite the burn, because I hate wasting food and it was a relatively small fuckup, but I think she took it as me trying to be nice for her sake and made her more down. She's still beating herself up over it because that's just what she does. I'll probably drag her to someplace she likes to get her mind off it.

I think this is what happens when you get to awkward, socially retarded people in the same house together. Lots of silly misunderstandings and mishaps while we try to control our autism enough to function. Anyway, thanks for caring enough to respond, guys. Happy waifu, happy laifu.

>>67848

That's really great advice.

>For a less orthodox solution, try putting away webcams and make sure she's watching you put them away in a box or something where they can't see her.

That's kind of what I meant by taking precautions. Didn't word it well in my sleep-deprived stupor.

>>67849

>pic related

…H-how am I supposed to interpret that picture

>Of course not. She tends to lean/sit on me when she reads or is just in a comfy "I want to quietly be with someone" mood and I'm okay with being a body pillow or chair respectively. And yeah, the whole thing was pretty silly. I think we're just letting it fade naturally at this point.

That's good to hear, hopefully you two will be able to put it behind you eventually. Sorry to hear about the cooking incident, too!

>Happy waifu, happy laifu.

Very true.

>>67851

>…H-how am I supposed to interpret that picture

>>67849

>I think this is what happens when you get to awkward, socially retarded people in the same house together. Lots of silly misunderstandings and mishaps while we try to control our autism enough to function.

I would like to watch a slice of life/comedy anime starring you two.

So, honest question here and I apologize if it's strange, but if somebody has a waifu with a canon lover/girlfriend/husband/etc. does that technically make them a cuck unless you apply the multiverse or "object-oriented waifu" theory? From my perspective they still have that other person, they are still one of two lovers at once, isn't it sort of like cheating in a strict sense?

If it's not clear let me know and I'll be happy to elaborate.

>>68356

I don't hate Noel, at least from what little I've seen of her, but I'd say you're perfectly allowed. There isn't anybody to stop you. Go right ahead. As the other anon said, you'd have to address how that all works somehow, but if you genuinely want her then knock yourself out.