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Share your daily struggles and other art-related feels here.
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>>12687
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No.15841
>>15840
now draw squares and triangles
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No.15842
>>15841
I could, I guess. I have drawn cubes, pyramids and cylinders before, but that's where shitty results become shittier.
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No.15843
>>15796
Focus on artists who aren't degenerate.
I'm sure they exist. In fact, I've noticed that a lot of horror artists I follow on Twitter are otherwise pretty far from dealing with fetishes.
They don't draw scat, vore, or futa, for instance.
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No.15845
>>15841
I've been doing that for years :^)
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No.15866
>tfw stuck on vacation with no art supplies
Fucking 9/11, didn't have time for any extra security bullshit regarding bringing paint on a flight.
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No.15876
>>15866
What about a pencil and some paper?
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No.15877
I feel overwhelmed by the software I use (Paint tool SAI) I want to draw tentacles molesting women but all I can do is draw boxes, cups and other extremely basic shapes.
Worse yet I can't combine those basic shapes of spheres, squares and triangles into actual pictures.
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No.15878
>>15877
I know I'm shit and what frustrates me is that I don't know what should I do to git gud.
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No.15881
>>15876
Yeah, I should have brought some with me. I was able to find a pencil and some printer paper in a jammed drawer. Missing my watercolors though.
>>15877
>all I can do is draw boxes, cups and other extremely basic shapes.
Draw some boxes molesting some cups then, brah.
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No.15885
>>15881
Good idea
Here's an unfinished one.
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No.15889
2 years since I started drawing. Student and intern. I got commissioned for the highest amount I've ever been recently. I have been paranoid about the slightest details in the drawing, which made progress slow and made me very anxious. It's nearly complete now, though. I'm glad it's over. I won't be doing commissions for a while.
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No.15891
>>15889
Fuck, only two years? That's really fast. I'm kinda jealous but also good for you, anon.
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No.15892
>>15891
Thanks! I can share how I improved quickly if it matters. Japanese Twitter has communities around very specific things (in this case it was a mobile game). I haven't seen something like it in the West.
I'd get a lot of attention for drawing the game characters (even though it was very low quality), which reinforced my will to draw. I know this is bad but I was very envious of the talented people getting lots of likes, so I tried to be more like them, and I was compulsively drawing in a way that I can only describe as a competitive gamer trying to get better at an online game. Eventually I got decent, but I'm still not as good as I want to be.
Drawing is not pure fun to me as I know my techniques will soon be surpassed and the best I can do today will soon be in the "old shit" folder. I am kind of conflicted about it all.
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No.15893
>>15885
Hawt. Anyway, the most basic idea of gettin gud at drawing something is to draw it a lot. Pull up some pictures of women and get copying.
What do those sneaky moonrunes say?
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No.15896
>>15893
"beer", however the water radical was erased too hard from 酒 since I intended for it to be a beer stein once I get better.
It was one of the first drawings I made after getting SAI where I didn't know about the blur function, or properly using layers.
I still don't know how to shade
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No.15898
>>15896
>I still don't know how to shade
If you mean the mechanics of shading digitally, basically you take a brush with soft edges, lower the opacity, and build the shading with multiple brush strokes. Then you can use a low opacity eraser or blending brush to smooth things out further. Never used SAI myself though.
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No.15903
>>15889
>>15892
Wow dude you're like the exact opposite of me. I don't think I've ever posted my art outside of 8chan and I'd fucking hate it if other artists started gushing over me, I'd probably want to stop drawing over that because I'm severely mentally ill and I don't enjoy praise or camaraderie of any kind
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No.15912
>>15885
Decided to try drawing human characters by starting off with a stick skeleton and then adding new layers with details onto the skeleton
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No.15969
Does anybody else get depressed when they see talented artists draw horrendous and vile fetishism?
Wasting skill for perversion and pleasure is such a horrible aspect of modern culture. There's no value in those works except for sexual gratification, these people have no want to care for art as a concept and prefer to use it as a medium for their twisted, unrestrained desires.
This started with individuals like De Sade being held as geniuses or visionaries, but now there isn't even an attempt at pretext; only unapologetic degeneracy.
Even true art has been subverted the pseudointellectual, he who has nothing to say yet never ceases talking. High art has been turned to a parody of itself, it's become a field where satire such as disumbrationism and real art movements like abstractism are genuinely indistinguishable. It's all vacant, pretentious nonsense fueled by money laundering and the elite's echo chamber.
Even the perverts I disdain have some level of respect for the craft itself, modern artists will attempt to pass of anything regardless of quality as brilliant and use confusing language to mask their ignorance.
At least the public seems weary of this, as for all the art world's attempts at pushing numerous frauds as grandmasters during the 20th century, the only American artist to truly grasp the public entirely of his own accord was Bob Ross. Even decades after his death he's still widely known. How many "brilliant" postmodernists of the 20th century can that be said for? His work still inspires young artists to paint to this day. How many paint brushes were wet by inspiration from Pollack's work? Or Kandinsky's work? Or Malevich's work? Those names have largely fallen from the public consciousness over time, while Ross' image only strengthens. I feel that says far more about the power of true art than any so-called expert could ever say.
I apologize for this rant and how it shifted direction, I'm just extremely frustrated by the perversion and pretentiousness that plagues art today.
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No.15970
>>15969
I don't exactly get depressed, I seem to have lost most of my emotions in recent years. I actually hope it continues, because apathy has been a step up so far. But discovering that dick necks are a thing made me genuinely question if there's any merit to the continued existence of our species. If nothing else we could use a good culling.
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No.15972
>>15969
I get more depressed when I see people making the same posts every couple of weeks instead of following le basketball man's shining ebonic example and fucking up until he BTH[eck]Os the people whose work he finds objectionable heh
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No.15973
>>15972
Those two things don't particularly relate.
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No.15974
>>15973
They do actually. He's cryptically criticizing some of the anons that make redundant complaints about things they dislike, as opposed to focusing their energy on being as skilled as possible, so that they have a greater possibility of outshining the artists and pictures that are deplorable to them. Obviously it isn't easy, but the most valuable things in life seldom are.
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No.15977
>>15973
Well, you did make nearly the exact same post a couple weeks ago >>15796
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No.16015
Do you have those crises every once in a while in which you realize just how inferior your art is to how you used to see it, and feel the need to go back to the very basics to relearn everything because drawing anything makes you feel completely awful?
I couldn't draw anything for the past few days, and even getting down and doing gesture drawings I see all these flaws in proportion and perspective that weren't there before. I want to be optimist and say my observation skills improved, but I'm scared I've somehow regressed a couple steps and all these mistakes weren't there before.
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No.16017
>>16015
I get that all the time, in direct proportion to how much I draw. And I do think it's mostly a matter of your skills improving to the point where you can see what you're doing wrong. The fact alone that you can identify those problems with proportion and perspective is a good thing, right? Now you just need to work on fixing those. Don't let this discourage you from drawing. That's how a hiatus begins, and then you regress for certain.
If it hurts to fail at the things you care about, try drawing something you normally never would instead (with references of course). To me it can help to distance myself a little from my usual subjects at times like that.
I don't know how credible this image is, but the fact that someone even made it should indicate it's at least a common experience.
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No.16020
I've been drawing a lot, as in probably close to 300 hours over the course of 2 months, and I'd say I've only improved marginally heh. I've been stuck in practice hell, most of which are anatomy studies. I'd say that I think I have a much better grasp on the skull at least, because I actually enjoy drawing faces.
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No.16032
>>16020
Stop for like a month I'd say. There are a lot of studies that show you don't actually improve on anything if you just do it over and over again quickly, you just get faster at it.
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No.16142
>the situation in my country was getting harder and harder, so I decided to try my luck as a porn artist
>I started to make enough money to help my family financially
>they have no problem with this, in fact, they are happy with the extra money
>over the past few years, I've been making comics for a porn site, drawing assets for a fetish game and working with a friend on our own porn video game
>besides that, I'm also trying to get a degree in Engineering Informatics
>when I'm not working on a commission, I'm studying for a test or something like that
>I don't have time to improve my art skills, I don't have time to improve my programming skills, much less work on my personal projects or do other things
>I could quit drawing porn and start working as a programmer, but I would probably end up in a job where I have to work doubly hard to get only a fraction of what I'm earning right now
>I'm so fucking tired of both things; I just want some free time for myself
>the worst part is, I think I don't even like my career, but what else can I do? I don't have what it takes to be a real illustrator or a graphic designer
I'm sorry for writing so much shit, but I don't feel comfortable talking about this with anyone. Actually, I've even been thinking about going back to my old psychiatrist.
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No.16181
>Feelio when Murata's 10 year old daughter might be better than me at art.
pic related.
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No.16185
>>16181
So easy even a kid can do it!
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No.16186
>>16185
It'll be all the sweeter when I finally make it, I hope. Also Murata made this when he was like 11.
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No.16314
>>16313
>>would rather do drugs than practice
If you're on the downward spiral of drugs where doing anything that isn't drugs is "most soul-destroying thing" then I think you should seriously consider quitting life in general, not just art.
There's a good website here for ithttps://lostallhope.com/suicide-methods
I've known people like that and they've never been able to climb out of the hole, it gets worse and worse.
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No.16316
>>16313
It sounds like you just hate drawing TBH. Maybe you should find another hobby.
>>16314
RUDE!
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No.16318
>>16315
If you're tired of everything and don't enjoy life you shouldn't feel guilt tripped into staying here, one of the worst aspects of our modern cultural attitudes toward suicide is the "but you have so much to life for!" argument, because most people who "hang on" are actually just kicking the can further down the road. Most people who kill themselves do so when young, the second highest age group are the above 50's. That should tell you something about all the "survival stories", just an extra 30 years of misery.
Wanting somebody to suffer just so you don't feel sad has to be one of the most selfish things I can imagine. I don't know how long you've been like this, but don't feel bad for wanting to rest early.
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No.16319
>>16318
Except most of these people are just in a rough patch, and there's a very good chance they'll get over it if their problems are actually dealt with. Assuming everyone is just condemned to misery is retarded. People 'feel sad' when some idiot commits suicide because they had some hope in their recovery, not because they want to prolong their suffering due to some strange pathological narcissism as you seem to think. Unless maybe it's a girl LOL!
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No.16321
>>16320
>unironically letting some underweight edgelord influence your emotions
nigga please
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No.16323
Don't practice. Doodle.
Practice is a soul-crushingly horrible task and I all but refuse to do it.
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No.16324
>>16323
It's about time I take these kinds of comments more seriously. I think I've learned just about anything I can possibly learn through study at this point. I need to force myself to actually start drawing shit I want to see drawn instead of being a cowardly book worm
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No.16325
>>16323
This is a decent advice. Practice should definitely not be the only thing you're doing. You should practice some, and then draw for fun while attempting to incorporate things you were practicing.
>>16318
I was in similar situation to >>16313, but alcohol was the drug and it was coupled with depression and anxiety.
As far as people killing themselves after 50, a lot of it is due to things like bad health, poverty, loss of the loved ones, loss of independence, loneliness, and depression due to aging.
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No.16338
I am so fucking sick of simulated camera flaws shitting up nature photography. I am so fucking sick of simulated camera flaws shitting up art in general. Fuck DOF, fuck HDR, fuck chromatic aberration, fuck "bokeh",fuck oversaturation, and fuck tilt-shift lenses. Why is this bullshit so popular?
It's hard to find good photos to work from.
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No.16339
>>16338
I really like https://www.shorpy.com/ , because the photos are old enough that they're untainted.
What pisses me off more is Pinterest fucking with every image search result except porn.
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No.16340
>>16338
>That last photo
Why? Back in the day it only 13 year olds messing with the photoshop for the first time would think this is a good idea. I reverse searched the photo, and the artist is a Candadian boomer. He takes good photographs, but he ruins them with shitty photo-shopping. Plastic wrap filter and fucking with HDR are his favorite methods. What's worse, he is selling these mangled pieces. He would probably make better money by simply selecting auto-correcting settings and leaving it at that.
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No.16341
>>16338
>Feelio when it's harder to draw a portrait of cute girls, because the lighting and photo manipulation they use is always so shit.
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No.16483
I've gotten worse at drawing anime, or maybe better at seeing the problems. The form of the face makes no sense to me. They have practically no chin for example and it makes it difficult for me to determine where everything would connect. I can try to fake it, but I am really not understanding where the planes are supposed to be.
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No.16495
>>16483
This might sound stupid, but what I mean is I've been studying the planes of the head and doing portrait drawings for months now, but I still can't grasp the form of simple anime characters very well. Their features are too soft and vague. The head is not just a pointed sphere, there aren't just two or three planes. There are multiple angles from the cheek, jaw, and the chin. Anime character usually have almost no chin, a diminished nose, and the brows are often not where they're supposed to be. I'm having a hell of a time making sense of it. Where the hell is everything supposed to go? I have yet to see a good break down that goes far enough into what I'm looking for. It's all just "draw a circle, decide on an axis and put this here, that here, and that there". I can do that, but in practice there are finer points that doesn't cover. It doesn't give me the whole picture. If I tried to paint it, it would not look correct. I guess I'm expected to " just experiment LOL" until I get it.
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No.16510
I look at other artists in the field I want to be in and feel like I can never make it in time pretty generic but its been eating at me
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No.16513
>>15796
It's called "Hentai",
and it's art.
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No.16514
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No.16552
>>15796
Come join me over at: http://nanochanqzaytwlydykbg5nxkgyjxk3zsrctxuoxdmbx5jbh2ydyprid.onion/oc/
We'll create a new community over on the Tor network.
I'm posting there and normies haven't found it yet.
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