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 No.13893

Hey /lit/.

I have never posted here even once.

I need recommendations for good books written by Prussian authors. They can be German as it would help with me read German but need a english translation as well. Also I prefer fiction to non fiction unless the non fiction is an old time analysis of art or political theory.

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 No.13894

>>13893

The only person that I know of who is distinctively Prussian is Clausewitz who wrote "On War", which doesn't fit your bill exactly.

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 No.13904

>>13894

Yeah.

Still though thanks, it must be hard finding books on Prussia, I googled it and got fucking nothing the closest thing I got was one from the German Empire, after Prussia had turned into Germany. It seems like once Prussia went German all of the previous culture just faded away, kinda sad really.

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 No.13906

>>13904

I think it's a little different, for when investigating this, as I am admittedly not very versed in Prussia, it seemed like Germany was shaped into Prussia's image.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_virtues

>Austerity or Thrift (German: Sparsamkeit)

>Courage (German: Mut)

>Determination (German: Zielstrebigkeit)

>Discipline (German: Disziplin)

>Fortitude without self-pity (German: Tapferkeit ohne Wehleidigkeit): Lerne leiden ohne zu klagen ("Learn to suffer without complaining")

>Frankness or Probity (German: Redlichkeit)

>Godliness, coupled with religious tolerance (German: Gottesfurcht bei religiöser Toleranz): Jeder soll nach seiner Façon selig werden ("Let everyone find salvation according to his own beliefs")

>Humility or Modesty (German: Bescheidenheit)

>Incorruptibility (German: Unbestechlichkeit)

Industriousness or Diligence (German: Fleiß)

>Loyalty (German: Treue)

>Obedience (German: Gehorsam): Seid gehorsam, doch nicht ohne Freimut ("Be obedient, but not without frankness")

>Punctuality (German: Pünktlichkeit)

>Reliability (German: Zuverlässigkeit)

>Restraint (German: Zurückhaltung)

>Self-denial (German: Selbstverleugnung)

>Self-effacement (German: Zurückhaltung): Mehr sein als scheinen! ("More substance than semblance!")

>Sense of duty or Conscientiousness (German: Pflichtbewusstsein)

>Sense of justice (German: Gerechtigkeitssinn): Jedem das Seine or Suum cuique ("May all get their due")

>Sense of order (German: Ordnungssinn):("Know your place")

>Sincerity (German: Aufrichtigkeit)

>Straightness or Straightforwardness (German: Geradlinigkeit)

>Subordination (German: Unterordnung)

>Toughness (German: Härte): Gegen sich mehr noch als gegen andere ("Be even harder on yourself than on others")

These values seem rather redolent of 20th Century Germany. If you want a history of Frederick the Great and are a /pol/ack, you could check out the Scotchman Thomas Carlyle's, apparently, 21-volumes I had been informed that it was 6 or 8 volumes on Frederick the Great.

I just remembered that you could read whatever the writings of Otto von Bismarck are, as he's the Prussian responsible for the unification of Germany.

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 No.13910

>>13906

Yes but I have explicitly asked for Pre German Prussian literature.

I count Bismarck as part of this time period as well.

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 No.13945

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>>13893

Only thing I can think of off the top of my head is Friedrich the Great's Anti-Machiavel, which is a point-by-point refutation of The Prince. Even though it was written by Prussia's greatest king, it was actually published in French, so I'm not sure if that' quite what you're looking for. I think someone posted it in the sticky on /pdfs/.

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 No.13950

>>13945

I have the antimachiavel online here

http://www.oocities.org/danielmacryan/antimac.html

website's older than prussia itself lmao rt

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 No.13962

>>13950

To be fair you really don't need much to refute The Prince, just basic logic, anything better?

I'm specifically looking for fiction.

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 No.14015

I'm bump tbh

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 No.14023

>>13893

Hoffmann is pretty good if you’re looking for more of a fantasy vibe.

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 No.14025

>>14023

I was hoping for something more drama related but I'll try Hoffmann too.

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 No.17216

I don't know such books.

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 No.17222

Absolutely!!! Here are some recommendations for books by Prussian authors that are available in English translation and cover a wide range of fiction and non-fiction, with an emphasis on art and political theory:

"Effie Briest" by Theodor Fontane: This classic novel is a masterpiece of German realist literature and provides a glimpse into nineteenth-century Prussian society.

"The Man Without Qualities" by Robert Musil: Although Musil is not a Prussian author, his work focuses on the Austro-Hungarian Empire and its Prussian influence. It is a modernist novel that deals with intellectual and social themes.

"Berlin Alexanderplatz" by Alfred Döblin: Set in Weimar-era Berlin, this novel is a must-read for those interested in the interwar period in Germany.

"Faust" by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe: Although Goethe is not a Prussian writer, his work is central to German literature and culture. "Faust" is a timeless masterpiece that explores themes of ambition and morality.

Non-fiction works related to art and political theory:

"The Birth of Tragedy" by Friedrich Nietzsche: Nietzsche was influenced by Prussian culture, and this book is an early exploration of the Apollonian and Dionysian forces in art.

"The Structure of Scientific Revolutions by Thomas S. Kuhn: Although Kuhn was not Prussian, his influential work on the philosophy of science is a must-read for anyone interested in the evolution of ideas.

"A Theory of Communicative Action" by Jürgen Habermas: Habermas is a contemporary philosopher from Germany, and his work on communicative rationality has had a significant impact on political theory.

These selections include Prussian and German authors, fiction and non-fiction, providing a good starting point for exploring the intellectual and cultural heritage of the region. I learned about most of them when I used online paper writing service at https://us.masterpapers.com/ for college work. I hope it helped

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 No.17227

Immanuel Kant

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 No.17228

Certainly! Prussia has produced many notable authors whose works have left a lasting impact on literature. Here are some recommendations:

Immanuel Kant (1724-1804)

"Critique of Pure Reason": A foundational work in modern Western philosophy, this book delves into the nature of knowledge, metaphysics, and epistemology.

"Groundwork of the Metaphysics of Morals": Here, Kant explores the concept of morality based on reason.

Friedrich Schleiermacher (1768-1834)

"On Religion: Speeches to its Cultured Despisers": Schleiermacher defends religion against its detractors and presents his own interpretation of religious feelings and practices.

Heinrich von Kleist (1777-1811)

"The Marquise of O and Other Stories": A collection of short stories that delve into the complexities of human emotions and conflicts.

"Michael Kohlhaas": A novella about a horse merchant who resorts to extreme measures after being wronged by a nobleman.

Theodor Fontane (1819-1898)

"Effi Briest": Often compared to "Madame Bovary" and "Anna Karenina", this novel offers a critical look at Prussian society through the tragic story of a young woman.

"Wanderings through the Mark Brandenburg": A series of travel writings capturing the landscapes and history of Brandenburg.

Gottfried Benn (1886-1956)

"Selected Poems and Prose": Benn's works are a blend of expressionism and realism, reflecting the tumultuous times of the early 20th century.

Karl Marx (1818-1883)

"The Communist Manifesto": Co-written with Friedrich Engels, this work is a foundational text for modern socialism and communism.

"Capital, Volume I": A critical analysis of capitalism and its socio-economic effects.

While some of these works might be dense or challenging, they offer profound insights into various aspects of human existence, society, and philosophy. If you're interested in exploring Prussian literature further, many of these authors have extensive bibliographies worth delving into.

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