e4a81c No.688244
Even though both Russia and China have a plethora of mineral resources and rare metals at their disposal they seem to lag behind the west (even the UK) at least two and three decades respectively in jet engine technology when Russia had even surpassed the West in certain aeronautic technology areas in the previous decades. In the case of China I can see the reason why (pic related) and it's easy to see why the West is so ahead in terms of avionics/electronics given its commercial colossi in even civil applications but in terms of material science it's seemingly inexcusable for the owners of the Siberian treasurebeds and successor of USSR, the largest heavy industrial power in history to be so easily surpassed by even dependent eurocuck vassals of America.
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581c0a No.688249
>>688244
Skyrocketing alcoholism rates (and krokodil) after the USSR crumbled in Russia's case, and china's problem is that it's full of the sort of chinamen that murdered the few decent chinamen back in their commie revolution, rapebabies that got more rape in their genes with every chinese dinasty that got assraped by barbarian tribes taking over China, until the chinamen had infested their chad barbarian genes with enough chinaman to allow the next barbarian tribe to get a go at the millenia-long gangbang that is chinese history.
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e4a81c No.688259
>>688249
Well China's issues are pretty much covered in the OP but regarding Russia's top engineering minds I kinda doubt that alcohol, which is a natural part of Slav diet, and krokodyli would be enough to drag them down when freaking communism could not prevent them from sending people to space.
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e4a81c No.688260
>>688259
inb4:
>the soviet pace program and half their aeronautics technology was piggybacking on then alive captured Nazi scientists
True but it's not like that's not also the case with the West.
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0368bb No.688262
Because the labour party stopped sending them British state secret engines
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e4a81c No.688263
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6cddbc No.688264
>>688259
Top minds only become top minds if they don't grow up with an alcoholic father and die of cirrhosis themselves at age 17.
Besides, there's a lot of people who aren't top minds who usually keep the economy going so the top minds have money for their projects, if they aren't too busy chugging shaving water while their flesh disintegrates.
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052a32 No.688267
>>688244
I'd say it's the post-communist corruption that is holding the entire eastern block in a stranglehold.
Even communism could direct state resources for big projects, preferably with no regards to material or men or reason.
But this new corruption-based regime is idling by in a stasis with the oligarchy getting richer at the cost of the entire state.
Brazil is similar, and even the jewnited states as of late have become this feckless, paralytic state that couldn't get off its ass if it wanted to.
If you think about what these countries could be based on strategic advantages alone compared to what they are today, it goes to show how potent of a poison this postmodern capitalism really is.
Even as a yuropoor, it's insane to see what little resources, meaning our scientists and engineers, being squandered and pissed away to the winds, due to nobody caring about anything but jewing each other for profit.
Add to that the general disregard for education, and you get societies that driven by greed alone. And where societal status is only achieved by having more money than your neighbor.
Another interesting note is the fact that there seems to be no country with rich resources that also has a functioning state, or at least one where the tremendous resource funds don't get pocketed by oligarchs. It used to be the USA, but that ship has long since sailed.
I do not see any of these tremendous problems being solved or even tackled anywhere in the world, least of all Russia.
So no, much like Brazil, Russia will probably remain where it is today: to be exploited and paralyzed until even their vast riches are eventually gone.
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e4a81c No.688271
>>688267
Good post. What worries me the most is that in the clown world we are living in turks seem to follow the most rational self-serving approach in both internal and external politics like cockroaches feeding on the corpse of White achievement.
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ea124f No.688272
>>688271
Thanks.
I wouldn't exactly call the turks succesful, though. Behind their certifiably insane Roachlord stands a country that is about 5 minutes from total economic collapse.
All the money for the many grandiose infrastructure projects is directly pocketed by the Roachlord and his spawn, their state has become a radical police state that imprisons anybody at random.
Big investors are retreating out of Turkey because it's such a shithole.
It's just another middle eastern hellhole with a crazy dictator.
And that guy is definitely crazy. Before the 2016 elections in the US a bunch of his emails got leaked and he literally said that it was him who controlled who would become the next president.
I totally believe that guy is going to go to war on a whim within the next 5 years just out of delusions of grandeur alone. Turkey as a country is finished.
The industry is failing, even their energy supply is failing, state bonds are already valued at rock bottom, their society is about to revolt, and lastly the battle with the kurds is becoming more expensive by the minute.
From where I'm standing, I'd say the roaches are done for. No need to the Raid, even.
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e4a81c No.688273
>>688272
>And that guy is definitely crazy.
It's quite worse than that. pic related
Yes Sultan roach might be mighty overconfident but his country is in a current geopolitical position that it really allows him to be and the effects for the its neigbours and wider region would be catastrophic if at the leadership of the state was someone anyone more competent than a turk (which accounts for the rest of the world minus Australian aborigines and a handful of subsaharan ethnicities).
The rest of the country's problems are systemic due to being inhabited by turks but unfortunately that never before stopped them from being a major danger to the civilized world, as long as a roach has nutrients it does not even need its head to be a nuisance.
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e4a81c No.688274
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ea124f No.688275
>>688273
I know Nato and the US seem to think Turkey is still that strategic key to Russian and the middle east, but I suspect it's because they haven't updated their maps since 1989.
Do you really need the nukes in a place that is more hostile to you than most of its neighbors and getting more hostile and volatile by the minute?
And to what end, exactly? To point nukes at the caucasus? To point nukes at Iran? Even more ridiculous to think Turkey would be instrumental to that.
Then for the yuropoors, that refugee-deal is de facto dead and also allows for Turkey to have one bargaining chip and they cast it to the winds. Might as well turn Greece into a fortress and dump the fugees into the Aegean sea.
I believe international diplomancy just hasn't caught up with the reality of the situation that Turkey is no longer the strategic piece it used to be for the longest time.
But in time, they must come to realize this.
>>688274
I lol'd
>Turks being a major danger to the civilized world
Ever since the Poles invented Raid in the siege of Vienna in 1683, the Turks have only ever managed to threaten other kebabs, but no civilized people.
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e4a81c No.688290
>>688272
> a country that is about 5 minutes from total economic collapse
>The industry is failing, even their energy supply is failing, state bonds are already valued at rock bottom, their society is about to revolt, and lastly the battle with the kurds is becoming more expensive by the minute.
You're right but there's a problem with such line of reasoning. Same predictions about "bubble economies" where made about 2010s' and earlier China but not only none of them got vindicated but China further established expansionist goals since and has no sign of slowing down.
"Total economic collapse" is a uniquely first world problem of debt-based service-industry economies with high standards of living, education, culture and civil liberties. For antpeople. roachpeople and other subhumans, a crisis that would result in total societal collapse and consequently radical social transformations and degradation of our standards of living is for turdworlders nothing but a default drawback. The unsustainable high-middle class just gets pruned down and the working class peons are sent back to slave away the fields, factories and barracks until the economy recovers.
That's almost how Hitler recovered Germany from an indebted humiliated shithole of total societal and moral degeneration and made it into an industrial colossus with world-conquering potential; he recognized that systemic vulnerability of White people and persuade them to overcome it with ethnic pride-motivated struggle and cooperation, he convinced them that White people are perfectly capable of doing what subhumans do out of hivemind instincts even better with their conscious will.
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439452 No.688330
>>688244
>Even though both Russia and China have a plethora of mineral resources and rare metals…
Aboundance of resources tends to stifle progress, as its easy to produce something that just works good enough in such high numbers that it dosn't need to be replaced even if it is inferior to some other thing.
On top of that despite being gigantic countries, they were already behind in technology during the 19th century and have since then tried to catch up with the European World during the 20th century, meanwhile they were and partly still are suffering from the dementation of communism, where science is put into second place and ideological loyalism is promoted and corruption is allowed to flower.
Additionally there is the cost of development that scares them and so in their minds it is easier for them to buy/steal the technology that they can't produce themselves. Which usually tends to have poor results, if they can't understand or fail to replicate what they have bought/stolen.
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896e0b No.688331
>>688330
What's more, China has no iron ores. If you wanted to completely annihilate their production capabilities, all you'd need to do is to sink any bulk carrier vessel that attempted to reach their ports. Put heavy security on it's borders to prevent trucks loaded with iron to enter the country and the bugmen are fucked
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896e0b No.688332
>>688331
Oh, and a vessel carrying heavy cargo such as iron, will sink easier than a fishing boat. Absolutely no chance of survival. The moment sea water starts flowing into the massive cargo holds is the moment the vessel will capsize due to fucked up central gravity.
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ca987c No.688337
>>688290
Even Indonesia recovered quite quickly from their 1998 economic shitstorm, and turbokike George Soros had a direct hand in causing their temporary collapse. Roaches are still way ahead than the riceniggers in this regard, so I don't think Turkey will truly collapse anytime soon, although if Erdogan eventually starts WW3 for the lulz and everyone else invades them then they might even disappear from the map.
>>688330
r/K selection theory in practice, a lot like the comparison between Sub-Saharans and Northern Africans.
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7e13be No.688392
>>688290
>That's almost how Hitler recovered Germany from an indebted humiliated shithole of total societal and moral degeneration and made it into an industrial colossus
Except the little insignificant detail of massive help from his enemies (USA and USSR) trying to use him against everyone else around?
> with world-conquering potential;
Oh Wehraboo, you are always funny with your magic ubermenschen…
Das Reich failed to occupy *entire* France, stopped at one half. And then was seriously out of breath in its half of Poland by the time friend Joseph helped.
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edc76e No.688394
>>688392
He sure made you Britcucks shit your pants tho.
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896e0b No.688401
>>688394
>britcuck
Anon I…
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edc76e No.688402
>>688401
It ain't giving me flags for some reason.
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896e0b No.688403
>>688402
We know. Codechink still hasn't fixed the site. Only board owners and vols can see them.
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5bfb21 No.688406
>>688244
bad/corrupt societies coupled with low-iq-races will do that. but it's mostly a really shitty culture holding both countries back.
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5bfb21 No.688407
>>688290
>You're right but there's a problem with such line of reasoning. Same predictions about "bubble economies" where made about 2010s' and earlier China
This has been the wishful thinking of Amerisraeli warmongers since at least the 90s.
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5bfb21 No.688408
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>688392
>chaim overdosing on nigger semen again
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c68998 No.688413
>>688408
>le jsdf maymay invalidates your argument :^)
good job
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d922ad No.688415
>>688413
>unironically using wehraboo
This isn't reddit.
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4989a2 No.688458
>>688415
Doesn't mean that there are no insane Wehrmacht fanboys here m8.
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