83491d No.679020 [Last50 Posts]
Title says it all, post your wild, wacky, and wonderful boomsticks that some crazed machinist dreamed up in his garage and somehow made without killing himself.
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83491d No.679021
As for me? I always wanted somebody to make another dual-magazine weapon. it's autismo as fuck but GOD I want one so bad.
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83491d No.679023
>>679021
somewhat related honeypotposting
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83491d No.679024
And I always wanted a pepperbox.
This thread is lonely
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83491d No.679026
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83491d No.679027
The filename is the weapon name
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83491d No.679030
Honestly I'm so mad that we can't have shit like this.
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83491d No.679031
It's only a render, but DO WANT
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83491d No.679037
I still have a boner for this gun
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83491d No.679038
Some weapons engineers deserve to be shot with their own creations
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543418 No.679044
>>679030
What the fuck is that and why can't we have it?
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76f3aa No.679055
>>679030
>>679044
I'm guessing it's a prop gun, possibly meant for a booth at a show, and the forward grip is supposed to house a second magazine. The concept has been tried before, but it never caught on, and I believe that adding a permanent vertical foregrip to a handgun makes it an "any other weapon" under the NFA in the US.
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16a982 No.679070
>>679030
Do you fire the gun by squeezing the knuckle duster thing?
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39a38e No.679084
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fa8118 No.679088
>>679084
Only thing I recognise is the mg42/34 feed cover and the ak foregrip
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fa8118 No.679090
>>679088
Also the ak barrel and gasblock, making the gas go through the foregrip, is that smart?
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8b46aa No.679101
>>679084
>>679088
>>679090
I also see a G3/PTR91 grip and trigger group
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604971 No.679104
>>679084
Bipod seems to be RPK
Cover is a 42, can be see with the bent piece on the back.
Receiver looks custom.
What do the guts look like though?
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db537a No.679113
>Creative guns
<All that i see are gore
Thanks i guess
>>679026
I wonder, is it feasible to make a helical mag-fed assault rifle? Though i bet that it will probably be awkward to handle since the size of intermediate cartridge might leas to the mag being the size of a wine bottle.
>>679030
Wait, so instead of changing the mag, you just move the slide and the reciever to the front mag?
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ad58a7 No.679135
>>679030
>>679044
It already exists, PP2000
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825a50 No.679154
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b2927b No.679189
>>679113
Supposedly the north Koreans have giant helical mags for ak's, could well just be propaganda though as the idea seems very impractical
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ee21c8 No.679197
>>679189
>>679113
You see it in a lot of the Nork propaganda photos they send out, they seem to be rather proud of it. Thinking about it though, particularly with that cut down folding stock the weight balance on that has to be fucking terrible. I mean if you just want to go full retard from the hip with an 80-100 round mag (hitting nothing) then I guess it would work, I can't see any non-autistic uses for it though.
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da4565 No.679199
>creative guns
Creativity died centuries ago.
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df9f9d No.679215
>>679199
Fuck off muttposter
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319938 No.679219
>>679215
Show me the last creative thing that came out of this century or even the previous one.
We've been stagnating for hundreds of years.
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df9f9d No.679239
>>679219
Why? So you can just screech NUH UH at everything I post?
This game you're playing has been done so many times I could probably samefag the entire catalog epin replies you've got in mind and make this thread look like the thousands of others that have been shat up by this unoriginal faggotry.
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319938 No.679241
>>679239
So you admit that we've been stanating and nothing creative or new has been made?
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df9f9d No.679243
>>679241
Yeah if that'll get you to fuck off
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319938 No.679248
>>679243
They why do we have this thread then if nothing creative or new was made?
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df9f9d No.679255
>>679248
I guess you're sticking around no matter what then, filtered.
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825a50 No.679273
>>679255
Why are you an oversensitive gay nigger, mein freund?
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c76994 No.679275
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30ce27 No.679292
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>679154
PP-2000 can have it's magazine as the stock.
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ad9fcf No.679298
>>679024
How the hell would that work? Is it a mechanism that takes the bullets? Are the bullets in packs of 4 in the magazine? Is the magazine just a prop and its a breech loader? What the fuck?
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825a50 No.679300
>>679292
The gun that was posted before can't do that, Strelok. That has nothing to do with anything. Why did you even reply to those posts?
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ad9fcf No.679301
>>679037
What the fuck is that?
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930ef4 No.679303
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>679298
It's a simple break-action pistol with 4 barrels. Yes, it's retarded.
>>679301
Vid related. Yes, it's retarded.
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ad9fcf No.679307
>>679303
Ayy, I guess the solution to creating more creative weapons are making ones that are functionally worst than existing ones!
Not like there are any ridiculous weapon bans in one of the most gun carrying countries in the world, thus making any pet project of making any functionally better weapon than those presently used by the military both illegal and impossible to make profit from. All hail the canadian Flag!!!
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e047e5 No.679334
How do I craft a subtle microwave or sonic weapon to attack antifas in minecraft
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5f4705 No.679547
>>679334
Sonic weapons are tricky, unless you're just trying to pump enough decibels into an area to make anyone in there very uncomfortable then it's not so much tricky as huge, unwieldy, inflexible, and a pain in the ass. You can recover a magnetron from any commercially available microwave, but if you need to ask for directions on what to do with it you're probably best leaving them where they are.
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f13282 No.679609
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f13282 No.679611
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6b86b1 No.679617
>>679609
>>679611
It's been done before.
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1bb5b4 No.682455
any other shotguns load from the top?
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31d99f No.682458
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
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189c74 No.682459
>>679197
Specifically the North Korean unit that use it is Nork Secret Service.
It's literally meant to spray and pray the crowd, let the Eternal General Secretary of the Workers' Party of Korea sort them out.
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b8e0ce No.682462
>>682455
>MG42 grip and trigger assembly(?)
>Galil Para Stock
What is this anon? I find it both sexy and disgusting at the same time..
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b8e0ce No.682464
Invidious embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>682462
>>682455
Never mind, found the video
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1f0e92 No.682474
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5340b3 No.682490
>>682459
I suppose that's a probable combat scenario for the Norks. How soon before we see similar weapons issued to British, Euro, and American police?
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62220f No.682495
>>679197
>I mean if you just want to go full retard from the hip with an 80-100 round mag (hitting nothing) then I guess it would work
Pretty much.
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1bb5b4 No.682498
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4af53e No.682601
>>682474
>You'll never own a pump action, 12+1, 8 gauge raifu
>You'll never get to blow the heads off any split lips, crabs, tree-turkeys, or baby kongs
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77cbb1 No.682708
>>682601
It's 10 gauge iirc
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ea1884 No.682917
>>682495
it kills me that this camo exists
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1fef91 No.682983
>>682495
>bright green jazz jackrabbit camo in the middle of an autumn field
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bf3850 No.683028
>>679024
COP. 357 already did this
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595192 No.683030
>>682983
It draws fire towards the individual soldier making the enemy easier to see while increasing the prospects of heroism in service to the dear leader across the entire KPA.
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229d97 No.683049
>>683030
Plus Kim Jong Il wanted to play dress up with his soldiers and thought that they 'looked kinda cool' in those colours.
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77877c No.683768
>>679292
when the video started with "pee pee" I laughed
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d4d24a No.683769
>>682983
It looks like the bib they gave paratroopers back in the day to hide their white shirts.
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d29467 No.683776
>>679020
I'd still like this gun, but with modern guns glued to the dagger, with small magazines. And a different trigger too, it's not practical to have to shove the trigger forward before firing when you're in combat, maybe a trigger that's affixed further towards the blade so you can't accidentally fire since you're holding it further back.
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97cf54 No.683878
I've got no idea what sort of bore this thing is, but I would love to see what it would do if you loaded all 9 barrels with +p buckshot equivalent and fired them all at once.
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8beda6 No.683922
L shaped bolts. The mass of the bolt is above the barrel, reducing the horizontal size of the bolt. superseded by the hook-nosed and hand-rubbing telescoping bolt. Not wacky, but damn if it doesn't look mean.
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d29467 No.683928
>>683878
Looks like a muzzle loader. Just imagine the reload time for all those barrels.
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229d97 No.683935
>>683928
>Just imagine the reload time for all those barrels.
I think that was what stopped widespread adoption of volley guns. However, as bad as the reload time would be just imagine the joy you'd get from the recoil, report, flash, smoke, and effect on the target as 9 barrels worth of black powder driven buckshot is lit off all at once.
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75b408 No.683936
>>683935
I'd image the target would vaporize and you'd dislocate your shoulder while also coughing violently from smoke inhalation
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083383 No.683953
>>683936
Don't threaten me with a good time.
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637477 No.683954
>>683936
Worth it. Besides, nothing a dram of whiskey can't fix.
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6c522f No.683958
>>682490
Don't worry fellow EU citizen, only in an evil dictatorship would the VIP protection corps employ a weapon designed around full-auto fire and holding a maximum of munitions.
And if they did that is totally not meant to put down an angry mob, trust us.
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62220f No.683961
>>683878
I've always liked this one I saw in the war museum in Istanbul Κωνσταντινούπολη.
It's a shame I went about a year before I got particularly interested in firearms. Looking back through my pictures I'm highly confident there were things there that I would have been much more interested in now, that at the time I ignored in favour of ones that looked goofy. Like a picture of a fairly mundane pepperbox because "lol so many barrels" while there's an 1896 Bergmann sitting just barely in frame and out of focus.
Though there are also some I noticed then that I realized were interesting later, such as a water-cooled Winchester that I appreciated more after I'd heard of the Siege of Plevna.
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23480f No.683965
>>683961
what is it chambered in? since, you know, its watercooled and the only way this makes sense is as a large caliber wall gun. how much did it weight?
pretty awesome
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62220f No.683968
>>683965
The placards in the museum had minimal information. It just said "water-cooled lever rifle, Winchester, 19th century".
The Turks used the Model 1866 in .44 Henry, I think. I assume that this was a modification of one of those.
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6c522f No.683972
>>679084
Garage MG-3, built out of a G3 kit?
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97d30a No.684058
>>683936
>the target would vaporize and you'd dislocate your shoulder while also coughing violently from smoke inhalation
Don't forget the deep seated feeling of pride that would come with knowing that you have pleased the cube.
>>683958
>p90
>magdumping into the crowd
Is the EU worried about hordes of people wearing homebrew body armor now?
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69f7dc No.684443
>>679055
>>679070
>>679044
its from one of those shitty GI Joe movies, The Rock uses it to kill the guy from The Fast And The Furious
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d4d24a No.684445
>>684058
More like more bang for the buck, I wonder how well 5.7 would be at going through multiple targets.
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f283f8 No.684446
>>684445
Terrible. Why would you even think it has enough energy for that?
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69f7dc No.684452
>>684446
isn't 5.7 essentially a scaled-down straight-walled .223 that comes in armor piercing by default (as defined by the manufacturer)?
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946b91 No.684461
>>684452
it's a pretty light round though, about half the weight of the .223 you're comparing it to. Even if it flew perfectly through the softest tissue in a human body it's going to lose a hell of a lot of energy after the first guy. You might get 2 through and throughs, but after that it would probably fail to penetrate a (perfectly ordinary) jacket. If you want a round that you can fire into a crowd and bank on killing 5+ guys per shot then you'd probably want a .50 or something larger, which probably wouldn't work for something your state security can carry all day long. Having said that though …
>Crowd of angry protestor storming government offices
>State Security troops lined up at the top of the steps leading up to the front door.
>Each one carrying a cut down 20mm auto-cannon
>60 men mag dump 25 rounds each at ~1000 rpm (assume that there's some kind of space magic recoil-compensator built in to the gun)
>When the dust clears I don't imagine there'd be all that much left at the bottom of the stairs
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f283f8 No.684463
>>684452
No. It's dimensionally similar to .22 Winchester Magnum, has less than twice as much energy (which is hardly much at all), and the standard loading is a ballistic tip bullet which has minimal penetration of soft body armour (2A and 3A) only because it's a small caliber, spitzer round going fast.
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175b3f No.684472
>>684445
5.7 has ridiculously poor terminal performance. Every single US LEO agency that bought them dropped them after the very first officer involved shooting because they quickly found out 1-3 expanding .223 or 9x19 is a lot more fucking effective than taking upwards of 40 rounds to stop one assailant. If I remember right the Jacksonville PD incident involved two officers with P90 or PS90's and there were 70 confirmed shots on the subject between them, and even then it was a reserve officer that showed up with a 9x19 or .40s&w that finally stopped the threat.
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dbaa2e No.684475
>>684461
>>684452
>>684446
>>684445
>>684058
>>684463
No pistol round in usage can go through multiple humans bodies even at short range.
30.06 had over-penetration problem, .308 might kill two people, enhanced penetration rounds (M855 and subsequent) definitely does over-penetrate (M193 doesn't), 7.62 and 5.45 (except enhanced penetration rounds) also won't go through one people and have enough velocity to still be lethal.
5.7 is designed to be "the same" as 5.56 but for pistols and SMGs (so with an effective distance of 200 to 300m), a lighter recoil allowing for accurate full-auto (especially in the heavy FN-90 which is intentionally weighted) and a bigger capacity. Due to it's profile it is capable to defeat the lightest type of body armor (like 7.62TT) but it's entirely a consequence of all the other things rather than an armor piercing round (else it would be made of steel or tungsten or something).
A hot 9mm FMJ will also go through soft body armor too when shot out of say, a MP5.
5.7 is designed for volume of fire and P-90 is the platform 100% designed with this in mind originally for commandos to replace aging European MP5/PM-12, etc… with compact maneuverable CQC weapons to go against terrorists/soldiers armed with various AR and possibly MGs, but always at short range, with the large capacity and low recoil giving you greater suppression capabilities in a full "military" firefight than the enemy AR would.
I can't help but raise an eyebrow when that weapon is basically only used for leadership protection that use such a weapon when their realistic scenario is lone gunmen and angry mob.
Volume of fire + angry mob sounds very north korean indeed.
>>684472
Well yeah it was never meant for regular LEO, it's meant for people that:
1. Know how to hit vitals
2. Are at risk to find themselves in an actual standoff were covering and suppressing fire is on the menu.
And PS-90 is the most retarded thing ever made, thank you US boomers.
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642c01 No.684479
>>684475
>Due to it's profile it is capable to defeat the lightest type of body armor (like 7.62TT) but it's entirely a consequence of all the other things rather than an armor piercing round (else it would be made of steel or tungsten or something).
SS190 has a hardened steel penetrator and is designed to penetrate vests up to IIIA.
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175b3f No.684507
>>684475
>Well yeah it was never meant for regular LEO, it's meant for people that:
1. Know how to hit vitals
2. Are at risk to find themselves in an actual standoff were covering and suppressing fire is on the menu.
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dbaa2e No.684569
>>684507
https://archive.is/QzGic
NYPD still think carhartt jackets are bulletproof or somehow their Speer gold dot don't have powder in it.
Not that it's them that can't hit the broadside of a barn.
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175b3f No.684578
>>684569
Never claimed the NYPD could shoot, I just find it hilarious you've bought into the hype these types of guns were designed for super secret squirrel delta cag ranger types when the RFP was for a weapon that untrained POGs could use to have a slightly better chance against soviet patrols.
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642c01 No.684584
>>684578
He never said any of that, if you can meet basic military marksmanship standards (which is a requirement for any position that's issued a gun) then you can use a P90 effectively. Or at least that was the case in the 90s, who knows how fucked things are today.
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e34b67 No.684587
>>684569
What is the context of this video, any info about it? Never heard of this situation before.
I guess it's because the guy is white
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7544ff No.684590
>>684587
Dumb commiefornian tries to steal cops gun, manages to get a magazine before getting mag dumped.
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779cd0 No.684602
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df9f9d No.684661
>>684602
That's none of your business.
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84e266 No.684676
>>682917
>>682983
It seems stupid until you notice that one fucker in the back who's just about invisible
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a4c120 No.684684
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f6ac72 No.684837
>>679030
>>679044
From the live action film, GI JOE: Retaliation
Character roadblock (Dwayne Johnson) has a modular weapon handle that accepts Knife, Gun, and baton attachments.
To what advantage? None, except to Tacti-cool with a pistol grip knife.
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229d97 No.684838
>>684676
>Be basically invisible
>By standing behind opaque concealment
Well, yeah, he'd need to be wearing a spot light as a hat to stand out in that pic, from that angle, at that particular moment.
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b74b60 No.688594
Unrelated to the thread, but it's a working WW2 Luger and a 2nd magazine worth 1100$? The serial numbers don't match since it was reassembled, but my autism tells me that it makes it more likely that jews/commies were executed with it.
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fce06a No.688598
>>679031
So somewhere a weapon engineer saw the hand phasers from Star Trek TNG and thought to himself "Yes. This is an elegant and workable design."
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b17f16 No.688623
Personal favorite of mine. IIRC the front trigger went full Doom 2 and shot all barrels at once.
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875283 No.688971
>>679030
Stay classy faggot (pic related).
Bonus points for who can tell why it's a frog gun.
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28fa99 No.689011
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5ffbeb No.689042
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0cd496 No.689050
>>688971
I don't know what you're talking about, that's obviously a Swiss Army pistol.
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7eb26f No.689052
>>688971
It's a mini-Chassepot ain't it?
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f115da No.689074
"The Gyrojet is a family of unique firearms developed in the 1960s named for the method of gyroscopically stabilizing its projectiles. Rather than inert bullets, Gyrojets fire small rockets called Microjets which have little recoil and do not require a heavy barrel or chamber to resist the pressure of the combustion gases. Velocity on leaving the tube was very low, but increased to around 1,250 feet per second (380 m/s) at 30 feet (9.1 m). The result is a very lightweight weapon."
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gyrojet
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f115da No.689075
"Captive piston ammunition is a unique, special-purpose cartridge that is designed to be intrinsically quiet as compared to conventional ammunition. Essentially, the SP-4 silent cartridge consists of a reinforced steel cartridge case containing a small powder charge enclosed in a cup-like piston in the rear of the case. This piston rests against the base of the projectile; a cylindrical bullet made of mild steel and fitted with a brass driving band at the front. The SP-4 cartridge was adopted by the Soviet KGB and Spetsnaz units in 1983 along with the PSS host pistol. Many prior designs, such as the SP-3 and PZAM silent cartridges, utilized 2-part (or 2-stage) piston that extended beyond the end of the cartridge case. While this permitted greater acceleration of the projectile, it also was incompatible with cycling in a semiautomatic host weapon. These older silent cartridges from the late 1970s and early 1980s utilized the standard 7.62mm M43 projectile loaded in the AK 7.62×39 rifle cartridge.
When fired, the primer ignites the powder charge, and the rapidly expanding gases drive the piston forward at a high acceleration. The piston, in return, drives the projectile. When the driving piston reaches a shoulder at the end of the case, the piston is somewhat violently stopped by a shoulder on the front of the cartridge case.The high pressure propelling gases are contained (and trapped) in the spent cartridge and gradually leak out over a period of several weeks. Because the propelling gases are not released into the atmosphere, there is very little sound generated. In the United States, each individual round is considered to be a silencer subject to the registration/transfer requirements of the National Firearms Act in its various incarnations."
> http://www.sadefensejournal.com/wp/beyond-quiet-the-russian-pss-captive-piston-pistol/
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5c36d7 No.689085
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16ebef No.689086
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>689075
>>689085
Those russians are some ingenious fucks
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77f212 No.689210
>>679303
>linking forgotten weapons on /k/
Careful anon, lots of people here are very ass-mad Ian gets to fondle their raifus.
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77f212 No.689211
>>683958
>he hasn't heard of the PDW program
>he thinks he's smart because he noticed secret service use concealable firearms
Quick, nobody tell him about suitcase guns. It'll fry his niggrified frog mind.
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77f212 No.689212
>>688971
>mon diu, put le wine opener on le pistol
>le bolt action pistol
>with le bayonette
Jesus Christ on high, may the French never fucking change!
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0cd496 No.689215
>>689210
>>689211
>>689212
>>>/reddit/
>>>/gaschamber/
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5a1846 No.689221
>>689215
What else did you expect from the monkeydonian
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380209 No.689244
Ooof! That's gotta hurt 😖
Here, let me help you bump up the board.
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380209 No.689245
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8facc8 No.689253
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f38164 No.689424
>>682708
It's not. You can actually see it on the model of the shells, it says 8 gauge.
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f38164 No.689425
>>682464
I unironicly want something like that.
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0fb29d No.689538
>>689086
>>689075
>>689085
>>Piston, reaches into barrel. Working like a rammer.
Errm, anons, seriously… how is the piston supposed not to fuck up the barrel / rifling after a while? At least after the 'chamber' itself, or is it smooth-bore only?
I do understand they may have used weaker material for the projectiles - but still, what about the pistons, the barrels… And the gas pressure is contained, held back, if I got that right…
Is there some trusted data on reliablility of these bangers, or is it more prototype level and limited quantity manufaturing and development they did? Like proof-of-concept stuff I mean, sorta 'yes, we can' bullshitting.
Just saying, I've seen pics of barrels bent to shoot around corners, so… some things aren't impossible to achieve, but are they feasible?
Dunno, got me thinking, I'm curious about the practicality I guess. Somehow reminds me a bit of ASP custom purpose handguns designed by a smith named Paris Theodore… These russkie crackers also seem special purpose but not really of value to anything else than hits and one-time use ops.
Can a Strelok give some translation of that one video - what are they saying exactly?
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ed293c No.689540
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still here 'migos
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4d03a6 No.689541
>>689538
The piston one is the older model of cartridge, back when it was used in basically a derringer, the newer model (SP-4) contains the platform inside the case, so the shell can be extracted properly by the PSS.
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7d6a5f No.689547
>>679024
"I'm a freakin blur!"
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89ec5a No.689645
>>688623
Nah, that forward trigger was for the tear gas dispenser (seriously). That weapon was designed by the same guy who came up with the COP derringer and the saner Winchester Liberator. It used a rotary hammer system.
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443bbf No.689796
>>688971
I'm reminded of the drug dealer who brings his gun to a party to do some kind of trick and ends up waving it around at people and ruining everyones time.
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443bbf No.689797
>>689538
I thought everyone knew about this.
Basically the case is lengthened to stop the piston protruding into the barrel.
The issues were mainly related to power, the thickness of the casing has to be increased considerably to stop it deforming and jamming the action- as the case still has positive pressure after firing. The round also has to remain subsonic, so the overall energy on target I think was really low.
They were very nieche and were only made in limited numbers- but because of their unique utility were held onto by ex-soviet agencies and anyone else who got their hands on them before the fall of the USSR
Older models I believe had two O/U barrels but newer ones were magazine fed, however because of the niche application I imagine some operators preferred two reliable rounds in chamber in case of malfunction.
Newer models also had a telescoping piston that reduced overall case length.
I'm pretty sure post cold war everyone developed a version of these, what interest me more is the ones where a telescoping cartridge were hidden in an object, and if they ever developed specialty munitions
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7d41cf No.689804
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d7392e No.689813
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90c58b No.689820
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