32898d No.599436 [View All]
There are some good bits of NBC weapon information scattered throughout 8 /k/. This thread is to collect it all into one place. Ideas and concepts for weapons are also welcome.
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01bb72 No.601138
>>600317
The premise of you having some all powerful nation that can commit genocide with no repercussions, while also needing the buildings in a city of 15 MILLION people that you've just killed is stupid.
It isn't gonna work no matter what you use, so you can remove that idea from your mind right now.
>>600327
Neutron bombs have a very short range that the neutrons can do their work in which is almost identical to the regular blast radius.
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15c173 No.611461
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26133e No.611498
Post A E S T H E T I C NBC suits.
First pic shows soldiers of the 19th Urkainian NBC protection battalion during operation Iraqi Freedom, decontaminating a truck.
Second pic is two Leafs posing with a blowpipe SACLOS AA missile launcher, wearing NBS protective gear.
Third pic shows JSDF special weapons unit looking operator as fuck during an exercise.
Fifth and fourth pic are just some random Spaniard without a fucking filter.
I fucking love the way these look, but I don't ever want to wear one of them in a serious scenario.
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26133e No.611504
>>611498
Pic one and two: Brits during an exercise.
Pic three: a Frog.
Pic four: Wessis during Operation CROCODILE
Pic five: An Aussie with his AUG.
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26133e No.611505
>>611504
Pic one: Some random American worker carrying a cute rabbit through a Sarin gas production facility to locate leaks.
Pic two: Another pic of Operation CROCODILE. Looks uncomfortable to me.
Pic three and four: Russians, possibly during the Vladivostok exercise this year. Not sure.
Pic five: An American suffering.
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cd24c8 No.611509
>>599500
>I wouldn't trust them to get their science right
ISIS is a lot different than the previous insurgencies. They have a lot of western-educated members, as they were trying to create an actual state, not just repel a superpower like the US or the USSR. This is why ISIS was more dangerous for a while. I am not clicking those links, but I wouldn't rule out such an attack. Be ready, my friends. Trouble can find you anywhere, and sometimes you can't shoot back. These fucking goat fuckers need to die.
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26133e No.611510
Pic one and two: old brits.
Pic three and four: new brits. Notice that one of them is just another angle on one of the previous pics, but you can clearly see why the other angle was chosen.
Pic five: Товариш Ивап about to fuck up.
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f9385b No.613013
remember the atropine!!!!!!! stuck on my anthrax kit!!!!
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f53406 No.613020
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3ef735 No.613468
This was posted in another thread. It really belongs here though.
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78f5b7 No.613558
>>600339
Enhanced Radiation Weapons aren't complicated to produce for a nuclear power. It's just a normal Ulam-Teller design, with the neutron reflector case replaced with a case material that is easily penetrated by neutron radiation or enhances neutron production, some designs contain a boosting isotope in the pit to increased neutron output. With a non-reflecting case material, yeild is also significantly reduced.
It's a common misconception that ERW are "banned" or "prohibited" for use in a counter-value nuclear exchange, it's simply a rumor, much in the same way ERW are imbued with effects they don't possess. ERW are by design a smaller warhead, to have a neutron release large enough to kill a major metropolitan area would require a warhead so large it would cause secondary blast damage on the same level as a standard blast warhead, negating the purpose of using an ERW altogether. This by nature restricts them to counter-force use.
The ERW concept was initially developed around the idea of a tactically deployable anti-armor platform to combat Soviet armor masses, said platform would have a reduced destructive factor to preserve nearby infrastructure, but maximized neutron output.
Operationally, ERW were first deployed with ABM/IADS on platforms like the Sprint and 53T6, working by partly . Eventually, they were fielded in initially intended role with the MGM-52.
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07adc2 No.625721
r/questing a simple bugbomb batch
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06733f No.625921
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Ever wanted to make your very own apocalyptic plague? Now you can!
Just recreate the setup shown in the video and wait about 2 weeks for your new, incurable blight to evolve. Remove samples of bacteria from the region(s) with the highest concentration of antibiotics with a pipette for cultivation.
To weaponize: simply mix the cultivated samples with distilled water (not too hot, you don't want to denature the bacteria's proteins and enzymes) and pour into an empty spray bottle. Congratulations! You're now a bio-terrorist.
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43dc37 No.625927
>>625921
Too much effort. Just wipe down a door handle in some hospital and throw the tissue at someone's face.
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06733f No.625928
>>625927
It's not very effective.
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f43a93 No.626225
>>599587
>>599798
>The military continue training with gas mask and NRBC suits, because gas mask and suits are EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE, which makes C weapons even more irrelevant.
Depends on type of agent. Nerv agents are lethal through skin and still are very dangerous. Putting on NBC suit takes time and if soldier does after he was covered by agent he is dead. Solution is to wear NBC suit all the time. But basic rubber airtight suit is unsuitable for this, to hot and accumulates sweat.
This lead to development of modern filtering suits. This is basically gas mask filter spread over the body. It releases sweat and can be worn as uniform prolonged period of time using 24/7 regime. But for example USSR was too poorfag to afford such suits and used old and not very useful rubber suits.
Also there is rumors that new generation of soviet notorious Novichok agents had formula that penetrates NATO filtering suits rendering them completely useless.
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f43a93 No.626226
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773e17 No.639861
How do I build a private nuke? asking for a Korean friend.
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9542c5 No.639862
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>639861
Watch this movie.
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a8c3e6 No.639900
>>625921
Urbanite antibiotic resistant bacteria are fucking shit outside of (((hospitals))), they make you puke and spew shit for 3 days at most after which the symptoms wear off within a day or two.
Ruralist master race influenza on the other hand not only locks you down with less severe fever for up to 6 days depending on the specimen but also persists through a runny nose for an additional week.
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348611 No.639907
>>599446
>just cover the grenade in poison
Does that actually work? I always thought the shrapnel would heat up from the explosion enough to burn off any poison you put on top like that
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664c1e No.647938
>>639907
How would poison burn off? use venom if need be.
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a295d3 No.649364
>>599587
Aum had AK's. They machined them themselves. They ware quite technicaly sophisticated.
Radiological weapons are area denial. Spread that Co-60 or Cs-137 with some bombs in beverly hills or some valuable commercial district and it becomes a no-go zone requiring very expensive cleanup.
>>599798
Buy a surplus NBC suit and try it out, it sucks. Even civilian rain gear sucks when worn for a long time.
>>613020
Any idea about what forum that is from?
It has the same feel roguesci used to have.
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3e933a No.658526
>>649364
>Buy a surplus NBC suit and try it out
do they come in size for someone 6'10?
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47445c No.658642
So the Fluorinated Hydrocarbons (refrigerants) present inside of a compressor could be a useful chemical weapon insomuch as, while they tend to disperse in open air, in a closed environment they linger and cause all sorts of nasty effects. In smaller quantities they'll cause frostbite or knock your ass out, but in higher quantities they get really gruesome since your lungs compress air and thus when you get refrigerants in high quantities in your lungs, they'll either act like they would in a compressor and turn back into an uncompressable liquid while freezing your lungs, or they'll get stuck and linger, and the recipient will either die from the compression effects inside their lungs or from how heavy the refrigerants are in relation to air causing hypoxia. Best of all, the reason people tell you not to mix refrigerants or use old refrigerant is because the mixture is off and it'll cause all sorts of problems. This is correct insomuch that I've done just that and your compressor will get too hot/too cold and other bullshit but will continue to run sub-optimally. In the human lungs which compress this shit but don't do a good job of it, mixing various refrigerants together can cause all sorts of reactions. It's "illegal to vent refrigerants" (not that it stops HVAC techs from doing so), but more importantly it's easy to collect old/dying fridges/freezers because of those laws making it so waste facilities don't want to deal with that bullshit. This means you could go around business to business in a day and since you're not aiming to get every last drop out and are only compressing to get out, say 70-80% of the refrigerant, get a bunch of free refrigerant, mix them together (illegally), and dump them into the ventilation system of a building while blocking off escape vents to the outside world with something as simple as a rag, thus flooding an office building or similar institution with refrigerant that could likely kill many of the inhabitants and fuck up the brains and hearts of those who survive it.
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feea13 No.670309
Question somewhat relevant to the thread. Wouldn't it make more sense to quietly poison water supplies with radioactive material rather than bomb places? it would kill more people
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415080 No.678085
Anybody have those pdfs relating to poisons/ricins?
And what's the utility of embedding a poison into a hollow .223 or such, like wax-capping it. A poison that would allow you to miss the killzones in a long-range shot but still finish the job when the bullet fragments.
just curious what y'all think.
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62fcf2 No.687199
>>599436
I've not been through this one myself but his explosive and incendiary books are fine.
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62fcf2 No.687200
>>678085
One of the reasons bows and crossbows are still useful I think (especially in no-guns bongland), there are dozens of deadly poisons knocking about in nature. If you find a deadly plant (monk's hood being a favourite over here) you just need to SLOWLY boil it (don't destroy the posions) to a paste and you're sorted for a guaranteed kill.
I've got this, never tested them.
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62fcf2 No.687204
>>678085
>>687200
Also, this book might be relevant for you especially, being American, if you decide on the arrow/bolt/blade route. You could put these posions on caltrops or anything similar. A favourite tactic in WW2 was to hand a line with fish hooks in dark rooms and near windows, I imagine poisoned hooks wold be even more effective. Loads of ideas to consider really.
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890b57 No.687298
>>687200
For any alkaline extracts the homebrew method is minced plant matter with double volume of ethyl alcohol.
Low heat and reduce volume by half.
Filter material and spread liquid on a non reactive surface, such as a glass baking dish or similar. Allow ethyl alcohol to evaporate.
Remaining material should be about seventy percent pure alkali.
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85f8ed No.687327
How come with ho prevalent all this info is you rarely see such happenings only with just guns. Has there been a bombing in ameria in recent history? I don't mean the 20's I mean more this century and no not 9/11 even though it was a controlled demo.
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e8c5e4 No.687557
combloc gp7v fag here, me and gf both have these. Any one know modern 40mm GOST filters and a source to buy them? or thoughts on GP7 filters? I have found near to no info on gp7 specific filters and only gp5 filter info.
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3160e4 No.687688
>>687327
It's prevalent, but I imagine it's like how millions of people buy recipe books but never cook anything out of it. It takes a bit more effort, and the 'fast food' in this case is a firearm which does its job well enough.
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92889c No.687692
>>687557
Purportedly FP-5 filters work both in NATO and Combloc 40mm.
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e8c5e4 No.687774
>>687692
yea i looked into those filters, but i got my GPF a israeli 4a1 and im gonna get a israeli m15. Kikes make great masks.
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e8c5e4 No.687779
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92889c No.687783
>>687774
Aren't those basically a copy of a Bundeswehr M65?
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e8c5e4 No.687788
>>687783
the m15 yea its just a better draeger m65, the 4a1 is the draeger suplex. BUT they both have normalized threads and can fit both 40mm STANAG and GOST
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d17570 No.687800
>>687327
Fire is equally effective in most situations.
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c1b951 No.687861
I got an idea.
How about doping airburst artillery shells with LSD?
You could effectively knock out enemy combatants and nobody gets to go "muh warcrimes'
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ce59cb No.687872
What's the best glasses low cost NATO filter mask with an eyeglasses insert? Who sells eyeglasses inserts with custom lens?
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845704 No.687946
>>687861
I researched it for a bit and while LSD is rather heat and light sensitive, it should last long enough for it to be an effective incapacitating agent. The delivery would be an issue though, an explosion could very well oxidize the indole ring in the molecule, rendering it useless. I think crop dusting would be a better alternative.
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408c1d No.687952
>>687946
The goal of an incapacitant is to stop a target from shooting, I'm not sure LSD does that at all.
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e8c5e4 No.687962
>>687946
well what about trying to make it in an aerosol form, mixing it with other things like Hyoscine SBR to make the people who are inhaling it fucked and in a nightmare trip
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92889c No.687980
>>687861
No. Weaponized vap juice or as I like to call it, the Finnish fuck you. Nicotine is absorbed through the skin and isn't decomposing trash like LSD is. By the time they've realized they're ODing on nicotine its pretty much game over.
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e8c5e4 No.687982
>>687980
as someone who has been raped by nicotine poisoning, I can confirm you have no idea until youre puking
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26670a No.688098
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f08b6d No.688105
Anyone got info on nicotine extraction?
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75a65a No.688124
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