/hypno/ - Hypnochan

So why exactly are there no capchas in place?

I mean, I have to input a captcha about every second time I want to post in any thread.

Captchas aren't a final solution (for example, having a couple vols and temporarily limiting how many new threads can be created in an hour are much more useful) but they still make spamming much harder and slower.

>>58569

And legit posting much more annoying

>>58570

It's possible to only enable them for thread creation. That won't stop them from spamming individual threads, but both options are still less annoying than getting your posts and threads wiped by a salty tr/a/nny who's mad he can't sissypost.

>>58573

They should be enabled for everything. Creating a quality post/thread will always take longer than solving a captcha. Also if someone has problems solving the ones 8ch uses, they aren't qualified to post anyway.

Also, I'd like to apologize for going through with the containment thread without any protective measures in place. Sure, the BO takes weeks to respond to emails, but it was still very hasty and foolish of me to go through with it (even at his bidding) without first getting him to harden /hypno/'s settings against attacks.

ruh roh

>>58576

It's not just your fault. It was a dumb idea to begin with.

Bring back the IPFS thread https://web.archive.org/web/20190411194620/https://8ch.net/hypno/res/53588.html

>>58581

Personally, it's not the solution I would have chosen. Were it my choice, I would have recruited several vols and stuck with the current rules for a while before seeing if we really needed to ban or contain sissies.

>>58582

I can't restore the complete thread or else I would have already restored the catalog. We can make a new IPFS thread in the meantime or switch to a backup board if things get worse.

>>58584

The BO watches the board more often than he checks his email. I think he'll see this in about three days and then log in to help you.

>>58585

>three or more days of "wake up and clear the tr/a/nny's spam again"

Lovely.

>>58586

The board isn't so fast that we're gonna loose much content this way. One should just wait a little bit with the bigger contributions.

>>58587

The thread creation limit would be especially useful right now.

>>58588

If possible I'd limit it to one or two per hour per IP. That seems about reasonable to keep the ability to grow over time and still makes it a hassle to spam the catalog; and captchas for every thread creation of course.

>>58589

I don't think the options are that fine-grained.

At the risk of getting banned , I must say the whole containment thing really pissed me off, and I hate the anti-trans vibe here. Not every trans person is a “sissy “ so to speak, and I wish there was a more accepting hypno community

>>58596

I don't think it's directly anti trans, but problems are preferably attributed to fetishes neither the BO nor the mod is interested in.

It's always harder to see the problems within the own community than with others.

The ever duplicated HFO threads for example were a much more prominent violation of the rules than the "sissy" stuff which was never really a problem in itself (as per the rules). "Sissy" topics were just especially subjected to trolling which seemingly confirmed the already bad assumptions of the mods and ruined its reputation.

>>58601

So if you can't distinguish between problematic and proper posts in these threads (or don't want to put in the effort) wouldn't it be best to select an additional volunteer who is more familiar with the content and could moderate it more easily?

In my experience it doesn't seem to be that hard to find the shitposts in those threads and I've read most threads which were posted in the last two years.

>>58603

That's possible if sissies and feminizationfags are tolerated in the long term, which I doubt, but the vol would also have to be someone who understands that being negative about a file, fetish, or hypnotist doesn't mean the post is off-topic or worthy of deletion.

why should we trust you though?

why don't you continue with the plans and keep this board sissy free?

>>58590

also IPs are trivial to change

if anything it should be limited to 1 post per IP - it would filter out the retards who don't understand what a VPN is

all these years on the internet and you people are still this retarded.

>>58610

Because as stupid as I was to go ahead with something that drastic without some muscle behind it, I'm not stupid enough to do it again. The containment thread was a test and the results came in early: out of all /hypno/'s subfetishes, sissies and feminizationfags really don't want a general, so much that some of them are willing to ruin the board for everyone else to make a statement. What's the point of a containment thread if people don't use it properly?

Try looking at it from this angle. If there was a significant amount of hypnotists who almost exclusively made foot files, would it be sensible to merge their threads into one? And if something like that happened, do you think the footfags would respond by rioting, calling themselves the most important people on the board, and spamming the catalog so no one else could enjoy their niches? Replace footfaggotry with a more disliked fetish like toilet play if you want.

>>58617

a containment thread where the OP pic is a discord tranny/SJW is just insulting and asking for it, though, surely?

it just seems like it was never done in earnest

it would seem more sensible to have a rule like '1 thread per hypnotist and 1 thread per fetish'

>>58618

>it would seem more sensible to have a rule like '1 thread per hypnotist and 1 thread per fetish'

Rule #3

>sissies are cancer

<NO WE ARE NOT

>okay, we'll contain you in one thread for a few days as a test

<proceed to prove that they were cancer all along by spamming

It's like observing human garbage.

>>58618

this tbh

>>58620

So from a different perspective straight stuff is cancer and we should contain it. Let's see if people are happy about that…

Oh, there you have it. All these conservative fags are raging when I just gave their boring, irrelevant and vanilla stuff a newly confined home right next to the landfill, and they absolutely don't seem to want to use it for what I intended. "We" should probably get rid of them entirely, before they can do any more harm.

>>58617

The chosen definition of sissy content was made to be as broad as possible to intentionally include stuff that is not directly sissy related but somehow still disliked or seen as connected to it. Footfaggotry is hardly comparable in variety to the vast amount of stuff included in that definition.

There is no point in splitting /h/ and /d/ type stuff in a subcategory of a different fetish. If people are too lazy to use the hide function or a word filter or don't have the ability to tolerate things they don't like (without constant trolling), they are not fit for this board.

Sissy/feminization content probably deserves its own board at this point.

Until a definitive split happens, we'll just have more flame wars, spam, and trolling.

>>58628

Because they aren't just fetishes but examples for not thoroughly straight content. So a better distinction would be between straight and not straight content but even then anything geared towards women isn't properly categorized because of the broken definition that was selected for "sissy" content.

Again this is more like the difference between /h/ and /d/ than sissy or straight and it doesn't make sense to fulfill further splitting because the hypno community is already small enough. The main problem is some people behaving badly when it comes to more unusual content and consequently causing those threads to reduce in quality, not that the topic is wrong.

If that was properly moderated there wouldn't be the bad reputation some like to attach to said content.

The rules are already well thought out as they are and treat all content not illegal in the USA equally. If they were enforced properly first I don't see why it would be necessary to create any special treatment for specific topics.

>>58631

>Because they aren't just fetishes but examples for not thoroughly straight content

Your model falls apart when you realize that other not-really-straight stuff like pegging and futa wasn't included in the containment thread. It's feminizationfags and their subtypes that people have trouble with, not "not thoroughly straight" content.

I looked through the archive earlier today and it's really amazing how much worse the SB and B4mb1 threads were compared to other sissy hypnotist threads. K31 has fucking stupid file names but at least his thread was mostly requests.

>>58561

Thanks for your work m8

As someone who listens to sissy hypno, y'all are fags for throwing a tantrum and nuking the board like that. Honestly, sissies are the furries of erotic hypnosis. Ya fuckin' idiots.

Honestly as the BO or in their absence a BV it is 100% in your right to remove whatever you want.

That being said, it makes no sense to do that without first adding that as a rule. Until / unless a rule gets placed down saying people have to not post that stuff then you are just being a hypocrite by removing their content or policing it. They had a right to be offended and angry since they were being treated as rule breakers without actually breaking any rules.

However, that being said as well, whoever the fuck decided to spam shit was a major turd and only hurt himself and everyone else.

Again that is assuming he wasn't one of the anti-sissy people trying to claim himself as a sissy just to get them banned. If someone was actually that smart to plan this result out.. wow.

>>58625

Your nigger-tier analogy doesn't work because straight content is the default and faggotry is the aberration. Try thinking logically next time instead of being an insufferable faggot.

As someone who enjoys most hypno on this board this is just next level fucking pathetic. The literal hypno-police faggots trying to round up the sissyfags and as anyone with even half a fucking brain could've predicted it results in damage to the community.

Would you prefer if I signed all my posts in the meta thread or not? I figured you could recognize them without the big red ## Board Volunteer thing and reserved them for specific posts identityfagging really isn't my thing anyways, but without thread IDs it might come across wrong.

There's 14 so far including the OP.

>>58646

I still don't understand what the big problem was but I only lurked a little bit here and there and I also missed this spam that forced the moderators to delete every thread.

All I saw was threads for different hypnotists with some duplicate threads that didn't get deleted for some reason.

Just because you don't like one type of content doesn't mean it should get contained in one general. If most tists don't cater to you I'm sorry but you're just coming out as a bigger faggot than the people who enjoy the sissy shit by trying to delete those threads.

>>58653

>forced the moderators to delete every thread

The mods didn't delete every thread, it was a salty faggot who spammed so many new threads that all the old ones were pushed off the board.

>>58652

I think it's helpful to know because I'm more inclined to answer if Im sure I'm not just arguing with some random anon who might have just joined the discussion and happens to write in a somewhat similar fashion. Consistency is key.

>>58656

>>58657

Alright.

>>58657

My bad I kinda misunderstood what happened with the spam. My point about wanting to censor the sissy shit still stands though.

>>58673

Can you restore the catalog and merge the new posts into the existing threads and drop some of the duplicate threads or ones with very few answers for the ones which had no prior version?

>>58674

I wish.

wtf hapen… spazoids nuke entire board?

I dunno what's been going on here lately but just FYI this board has always had 20% sissy content, so what's the big friggin deal just don't listen to the files lolmao

>>58677

A stupid idea was met with an even more stupid reaction which couldn't be stopped/controlled because the normal BO is too involved with his own life.

The mod who somewhat blindly started it is now the new BO.

To be continued…

>>58677

more like 80%

>>58681

lol

There were about 7 or 8 locked threads when the mod locked all sissy threads as part of his test.

If let's generously say 10 threads of the whole catalog are 80% by your standards you need to repeat about all maths classes.

>>58685

so the mod destroyed this board over 8 sissy threads? logic.

>>58686

There is a long story to it which started with some people the "old" BO included were disappointed with how /hypno/ had developed and were in search for a reason and since sissy stuff is about the most controversial topic it was identified as the best angle of attack. The BO then proposed a few options none of which appeared really practical but the one selected and a few other circumstances eventually lead to the current status.

It was meant as a preliminary (a few weeks long) test as I understood it but apparently not everyone agreed with even that and one of them went crazy and fucked up the catalog.

I don't care who really is responsible in the end. I just hope everyone has learned something and it won't happen again but I also don't mind the threads in question.

>>58689

Sorry for the mistakes. I'm a little bit tired and hope you still get what I meant.

>>58689

So because some people didn't like how popular the sissy fetish is, they decided to try and control it for no reason? There was no reason to change the status quo and by doing so, they destroyed the board. genius.

>>58691

I don't know for sure what their motivation was, but the reason given was always that sissy topics are mostly garbage and attract the wrong crowd.

I obviously don't share that opinion, so I'm the wrong guy to ask and your conclusion also seems to fall short of the actual complexity of the situation but the results speak for themselves I think.

>>58693

"mostly garbage and attract the wrong crowd" that is an issue of perception. I luved the sissy content and the sissies. If they don't like sissy hypno, then maybe hypnosis isn't the fetish for them? or they can ignore the sissy threads and read the ones they like? I don't understand why the straightfags have to attack the sissies.

>>58695

It's probably not the "straightfags" in general but some particularly vocal anons who happened to grow up or live in a very intolerant environment. For trolls at least they seem somewhat too persistent.

>>58686

Mod didn't do shit, autists did.

Literally stated as an experiement but since sissys are all massive dramatic attention whores it was THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD and they had to throw a gigantic tantrum

>>58700

>Mod didn't do shit

Trying to put a significant percentage of the userbase into one thread that even mocked them in the OP was not a smart idea. It was not just an experiment, it was an attack, and that mod was stupid for thinking no one would retaliate.

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I take a few days off from 8chan, check in, and find that THIS has happened?

>>58561

> I'm halting the containment thread test. It sucks to have all your threads pushed off the catalog because some autist is upset about keeping his fetish inside one thread for a couple days.

> Our BO's fear was that sissies were harming post quality and the board as a whole. If the cyclical thread's contents and the spam were any indication, he was right.

> …

> We began a several day test to see what would happen if all sissification, feminization, and bimbofication content were moved to one general, which several other fetishes had done on their own. They spent the entire thread complaining until one particularly salty autist, describing himself and other sisies as "the highest contributors on this board," decided to spam all the other threads off the catalog.

That's it. Enough!

The sissies have completely violated the principles of cooperative imageboard discussion and basic netiquette. They have routinely shit up non-sissy threads in a seemingly systematic effort to discourage all non-sissy discussion, endlessly complaining on utterly specious grounds about any discussion not about their particular fetish. No other group has done anything like this. When their behavior was pointed out, they ignored all efforts at correction and integration into this community and continued to misbehave.

We have tolerated the sissies shitting up this board entirely too long. We offered them one last olive branch in the form of a containment thread and they responded by setting it on fire, then spewing shit all over the board, then torching the whole board.

I move that all sissy content be categorically banned; that the motion to reconsider be considered made and rejected; that the appeal be considered made and denied; and that the motion to table be considered made and itself laid upon the table.

This would mean that any 'tist who primarily focuses on sissy content is banned. Goodbye, SB.

This would mean that any series that primarily focuses on sissification or bimbofication is banned. Goodbye, (((B4mb1))) Sleep.

This would mean that anything that would have gone in the containment thread is banned. Goodbye, a bunch of others.

Look around at the ashes of this board. At this point, letting the sissies return would be surrendering to net.terrorism. BAN SISSIES PERMANENTLY!

Also, /r/ing wordfilter "larp" => "sissyhypnospammer" since that was most of the spam before the board was torched.

To the sissies - I have been tolerant of you in the past, but my view has been changed from "live and let live" to "ban them all, with fire if needed" by this incident. Torching the board does not win you any friends.

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>>58576

> I'd like to apologize for going through with the containment thread without any protective measures in place. Sure, the BO takes weeks to respond to emails, but it was still very hasty and foolish of me to go through with it (even at his bidding) without first getting him to harden /hypno/'s settings against attacks.

You didn't torch the board. You have nothing to apologize for - you have done nothing wrong. The sissies who spammed the board to hell are to blame and are entirely to blame. There can be no excuse for that behavior.

>>58584

> I can't restore the complete thread or else I would have already restored the catalog.

Good thing I have local copies of the threads I really care about. I could pasta most of the text back, but I think some revising would be good for the project.

>>58611

> if anything it should be limited to 1 post per IP - it would filter out the retards who don't understand what a VPN is

Due to the way 8chan works, that would fuck over Tor. The server sees all torposts as coming from the same address. CodeMonkey has screwed up the handling of Tor many times in the past - even the all-zero ID hasn't always worked correctly.

>>58617

> The containment thread was a test and the results came in early: out of all /hypno/'s subfetishes, sissies and feminizationfags really don't want a general, so much that some of them are willing to ruin the board for everyone else to make a statement. What's the point of a containment thread if people don't use it properly?

The containment thread was also an olive branch to the sissies and a chance to become productive anons. They have treated our effort to accommodate them with utter contempt and torched the board instead. The sissies should be permanently banned as a result.

> Try looking at it from this angle. If there was a significant amount of hypnotists who almost exclusively made foot files, would it be sensible to merge their threads into one? And if something like that happened, do you think the footfags would respond by rioting, calling themselves the most important people on the board, and spamming the catalog so no one else could enjoy their niches?

Know what's funny? The footfags voluntarily maintained their own series of general threads. Only the sissies responded to being ordered into a containment thread by rioting. Only the sissies had to be ordered into a containment thread. Every other group made their own containment threads and stuck with them. Only the sissies seemed to seek out non-sissy threads to shit up.

>>58673

> Rules aren't changing for now either.

If the sissies won't be banned outright, as I maintain that they have richly earned, can we at least have a rule that sissyposts are confined to sissy threads?

In particular, entering a thread and complaining about that thread's existence ought to be a bannable offense.

Make the rule generic, but this is something that only the sissies have violated in the past. All other groups seemed to get along fine.

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>>58596

> I must say the whole containment thing really pissed me off

The sissies had a unique bad habit of entering non-sissy threads and complaining because the thread wasn't about them and their particular fetish. That pissed the rest of us off.

> I hate the anti-trans vibe here. Not every trans person is a “sissy “ so to speak

I'm not sure I consider sissies transfags at all, but I admit that many others do not make that distinction as I do. I think that I can speak for most non-sissies here when I say that we don't hate transfags, but we damn well do hate drama queens who torch the board in a tantrum. Unfortunately, the sissies try very hard to associate themselves with transfags and tend to be massive drama queens, as the ashes of this board around us now attest.

> I wish there was a more accepting hypno community

Fair enough, but I simply don't get off on dickgirls. That's just how I am. Can you be similarly accepting of me and allow for us to go our separate ways?

>>58598

> The ever duplicated HFO threads for example were a much more prominent violation of the rules than the "sissy" stuff which was never really a problem in itself (as per the rules).

There is one big difference - the HFOfags did not shit up non-HFO threads with complaints that the threads that didn't cater specifically to them. The sissies often did go into non-sissy threads and complain about discussions that didn't involve them. That level of … narcissistic entitlement … is unacceptable.

>>58601

> the posting quality in sissy threads has always been fucking garbage

>>58603

> if you can't distinguish between problematic and proper posts in these threads

The problem wasn't the sissies shitting up sissy threads. The problem was the sissies shitting up non-sissy threads.

>>58618

> a containment thread where the OP pic is a discord tranny/SJW is just insulting and asking for it, though, surely?

I prefer to think of it as a last warning - cease shitting up the board or be banned. The sissies didn't stay in their threads, so the board tried a "THIS is your thread - now stay HERE" approach.

Look around at the ashes of this board for how well the sissies handled that chance.

> it just seems like it was never done in earnest

That word. It does not mean what you seem to think it means.

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>>58620

> It's like observing human garbage.

It's time to take out the trash.

>>58625

> So from a different perspective straight stuff is cancer and we should contain it.

On a board dedicated to gay, lesbian, and sissy, straight content would be cancer, but /hypno/ is - or was - a fully-general board. Most of the human population is straight - if they weren't, our species would have died out eons ago. Sorry for the dose of hard cold reality.

> All these conservative fags are raging when I just gave their boring, irrelevant and vanilla stuff a newly confined home right next to the landfill

> boring, irrelevant and vanilla

Using "vanilla" as an insult? That's not the kink community I know…

> they absolutely don't seem to want to use it for what I intended.

OP of the containment thread was used to announce the new policy, so the general population of the board filtered in to discuss the policy change. Interestingly, at least one post was made in the containment thread that followed its main purpose - 31 hours in, someone asked for GG's Happiness Curse. Given the usual posting frequencies, I suspect that the containment experiment would have been successful.

> The chosen definition of sissy content was made to be as broad as possible to intentionally include stuff that is not directly sissy related but somehow still disliked or seen as connected to it.

This is due to the actions of the sissies themselves. I really don't consider (((B4mb1))) Sleep a "sissy" program, but the sissies have done all they can to claim it as theirs.

> If people are too lazy to use the hide function or a word filter or don't have the ability to tolerate things they don't like (without constant trolling), they are not fit for this board.

That's rich, trying to use that argument to defend sissies - the only group that would complain about threads that didn't focus on their interest. Everyone else understood the simple idea of not posting in threads that you aren't interested in. Only the sissies would go into non-sissy threads and whine.

>>58627

> Sissy/feminization content probably deserves its own board at this point.

They have at least two boards - >>>/larp/ and >>>/sissyhypno/ - yet still shit up this board. They sure have acted like cancer.

> Until a definitive split happens, we'll just have more flame wars, spam, and trolling.

There have been several attempts to organize exoduses - some sought to leave the sissies here, some sought to move the sissies elsewhere. I now say it's time to kick the sissies the hell out of this board.

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>>58631

> So a better distinction would be between straight and not straight content but even then anything geared towards women isn't properly categorized because of the broken definition that was selected for "sissy" content.

You're erasing the entire gay and lesbian community with that. Not-straight does not imply sissy. Not-sissy does not imply straight. Sissy and straight is possible but really pathetic.

> The main problem is some people behaving badly when it comes to more unusual content and consequently causing those threads to reduce in quality, not that the topic is wrong.

That's exactly the reason sissies were banished to a containment thread. The sissies were often complaining about the existence of non-sissy threads, in those threads.

> If that was properly moderated there wouldn't be the bad reputation some like to attach to said content.

Proper moderation would have been aggressively banning sissies who shit up non-sissy threads. But that's water under the bridge now, along with our threads.

> I don't see why it would be necessary to create any special treatment for specific topics.

There is only one topic that has produced this kind of drama and I now believe that the board would be better off simply banning all sissy content.

>>58633 (checked)

> It's feminizationfags and their subtypes that people have trouble with, not "not thoroughly straight" content.

It's not even the topic - not my kink, I don't care - but the behavior of the sissies. It was only the feminizationfags that whined in threads unrelated to their interests about the very existence of threads unrelated to their interests. Only them - no other group did this. Everyone else followed "I have my interests, you have yours" with sometimes "oh, that's neat" while looking into another interest. Only the sissies tried to force their kink on everyone else, and that's just plain NOT OK.

>>58635

> As someone who listens to sissy hypno, y'all are fags for throwing a tantrum and nuking the board like that.

The ashes of this board in which we now stand are the best argument I could possibly imagine for banning sissies permanently.

> sissies are the furries of erotic hypnosis.

They're worse. Furries derailed with OC, while sissies derailed with bullshit whining. One of those is far less offensive than the other - after all, a good OC is a bit of lulz all itself.

Yes, I just said it - sissies are worse than furries.

And it doesn't matter whether it was actual sissies shitting up the board or trolls. Effective trolls are mimics. I speak from personal experience here - years ago my underage b& self used to troll 4/b/ with furry pictures - not even yiff, mind you, just pinups - for teh lulz. That meant I had to actually make furry OC so I could blend in and troll the board. Looking back, I wonder how many of the "actual furries" were really just trolls like me. I eventually got tired of making shitty OC for trolling, grew up, and found better things to do with my time.

> Ya fuckin' idiots.

Five days ago, I didn't have a problem with the sissies. Now I want them banned, with fire if needed. You've described the sissies perfectly in those three words.

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>>58638

> That being said, it makes no sense to do that without first adding that as a rule. Until / unless a rule gets placed down saying people have to not post that stuff then you are just being a hypocrite by removing their content or policing it. They had a right to be offended and angry since they were being treated as rule breakers without actually breaking any rules.

The containment thread was used to test the new rule.

The OP of the containment thread announced the new rule and indicated that it was temporary.

The containment thread was posted by the BV, speaking officially, with capcode.

The rule was properly announced and was being discussed in the containment thread, alongside the actual topic. Had the board not been torched, the meta discussion would have died down and the containment thread would have done its job.

> However, that being said as well, whoever the fuck decided to spam shit was a major turd and only hurt himself and everyone else.

Yes, I for one would have argued against banning the sissies five days ago. Now, I made the motion to ban them.

> Again that is assuming he wasn't one of the anti-sissy people trying to claim himself as a sissy just to get them banned. If someone was actually that smart to plan this result out.. wow.

Effective trolling requires mimicry - even if it was an anti-sissy troll, this result is only possible because of the sissies' own bad behavior. If the sissies had behaved well and not tried to infest every thread on the board, no one would have believed the hypothetical troll's efforts to pin blame on the sissies. But the sissies didn't behave well, and whether it was an actual sissy throwing a tantrum or a /baph/ole seeking lulz, the sissies are now blamed for torching the board.

>>58677 (checked)

> wtf hapen… spazoids nuke entire board?

Sissies have proven beyond any doubt that they are cancer and should be totally banned. That's what happened.

No other group has ever behaved like this. No other group has ever torched the entire board in a spam raid over being told to keep their fetish in their own threads. No other group has even had to be told to keep their fetish in its own thread - they all organized that on their own.

> this board has always had 20% sissy content, so what's the big friggin deal just don't listen to the files lolmao

If only the sissies had extended that same courtesy to the rest of us. The big deal was the sissies complaining in non-sissy threads about the very existence of non-sissy threads. The bigger deal was the sissies torching the board when they were ordered into a containment thread after the rest of us had had enough.

>>58691

> So because some people didn't like how popular the sissy fetish is, they decided to try and control it for no reason? There was no reason to change the status quo and by doing so, they destroyed the board.

No, the sissies who spammed the board to hell destroyed the board and have earned a permanent ban for their favorite topic. They have other boards to go to. They should go.

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>>58695

> I luved the sissy content and the sissies.

I often lurked some of those threads for teh lulz. I even pointed the way to various resources and helped shoot down the "suicide subliminal" troll in the (((B4mb1))) Sleep threads. I now regret ever helping them.

> If they don't like sissy hypno, then maybe hypnosis isn't the fetish for them?

So you're saying that all hypnosis should be sissy hypnosis? And then you wonder why sissies get treated as cancer?

> or they can ignore the sissy threads and read the ones they like?

> I don't understand why the straightfags have to attack the sissies.

I'll ask the other question - why couldn't the sissies ignore the straightfag threads? Why did the sissies make such a habit of complaining in non-sissy threads?

Why do the sissies have to attack the straightfags?

>>58696

> It's probably not the "straightfags" in general but some particularly vocal anons who happened to grow up or live in a very intolerant environment. For trolls at least they seem somewhat too persistent.

For me personally, it's a reaction to the behavior of the sissies. Note that I supported the sissies having a place on this board - until the sissies fucking torched the entire board. Now I agree that sissies are malignant cancer and should all be banned. Amazing what happens to other people's views when you attack something they care about, isn't it?

>>58700 (checked)

> Mod didn't do shit, autists did.

You're right.

> Literally stated as an experiement but since sissys are all massive dramatic attention whores it was THE END OF THE FUCKING WORLD and they had to throw a gigantic tantrum

I believe that we can draw one simple conclusion from this experiment - sissies must be banned from /hypno/.

>>58701

> Trying to put a significant percentage of the userbase into one thread that even mocked them in the OP was not a smart idea.

Then they should have written proper complaints and asked for a better containment thread, maybe posting images that would be more agreeable?

> It was not just an experiment, it was an attack, and that mod was stupid for thinking no one would retaliate.

There can be no excuse for torching the entire board like the sissies did.

>>58710

hey retard calm down stop typing 7 page replies to people on a hypnosis forum you freak

to everyone - stop trying to ban shit you don't like, or your board will die. most of the traffic is already probably going to leave since the board is nuked and the traffic-drawing content is mostly moved to the other board now. in the interest of having one board that has traffic instead of 2 or three none of which have hardly any, it'd be real nice if you fucktards would stop trying to control each other and just hide the threads you don't like whatever those might be.

>>58711

Board just needs to be treated like a slow board because it is a slow board.

Duplicate threads need to be deleted regardless of anyone's feelings on their subject matter so conversation / files isn't split 5 ways.

>>58704 (self reply)

Ah, so I see that the offending board's name has been wordfiltered

Unfortunately, that undermines my argument in >>58707 but it should be obvious that >>>/larp/ is not the board I'm referring to in that post.

>>58711 (wasted dubs)

Somehow I'm not sure you actually read what I wrote, much less actually thought about it.

> stop typing 7 page replies to people on a hypnosis forum

I had enough to say that about seven posts were required to say it all - the board limits the maximum size of a single post. Browser tabs are awesome.

> stop trying to ban shit you don't like, or your board will die.

Well maybe if the sissies would behave and cooperate - like every other group did without needing to be asked - they wouldn't have been put into a containment thread.

And maybe - just maybe - if the sissies hadn't torched the entire board, I wouldn't be calling to ban them. You think torching the board might piss people off? Just a little bit? Or maybe a whole lot?

> most of the traffic is already probably going to leave since the board is nuked and the traffic-drawing content is mostly moved to the other board now.

If by "traffic-drawing content" you mean "sissy content" then good riddance. We are far better off without that cancer.

> in the interest of having one board that has traffic instead of 2 or three none of which have hardly any

That requires peaceful coexistence, a kind of "live and let live" attitude, which is something the sissies have repeatedly rejected, including by rioting when containment - that every other group had voluntarily adopted without so much as being asked - was finally imposed on them.

> it'd be real nice if you fucktards would stop trying to control each other and just hide the threads you don't like whatever those might be.

Yes, that would have avoided the entire situation. But that's not what the sissies did. It's what everyone else did as routine practice before the sissies showed up, and it's what everyone else will go back to doing after the sissies are banned.

>>58712

> Board just needs to be treated like a slow board because it is a slow board.

Agreed.

> Duplicate threads need to be deleted regardless of anyone's feelings on their subject matter so conversation / files isn't split 5 ways.

There's also the problem of people shitting up threads with some form of "this thread sucks because I don't like what you're talking about" like the sissies often did. That eventually broke the general peace on the board and others started doing the same in the sissy threads.

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>>58704

>>58705

>>58706

>>58707

>>58708

>>58709

>>58710

Being comprehensive is one thing, but this is way too much and takes around four seconds to scroll past at my average scrolling speed. If you combined all the rephrased answers and points, you probably could have fit this in a post or two, maybe three.

Please be more considerate next time. Both the people reading and scrolling past your posts will appreciate it.

>>58711

/monster/ is a pretty important counterexample to that, but monster girls are more conductive to their anti-faggotry/furry autism than hypnosis is.

>>58713

tl;dr

>>58711

Speaking of filtering, this reminds me: per-thread IDs. They make detecting samefags and filtering anons much easier, at the cost of a little less anonymity inside threads. What do you guys think of them?

>>58714

I was unsure between giving individual replies to other anons and making one set of points. In the end, I decided that most of the other anons deserved direct replies, but I now see the problem that such a large wall of text could make for others. That's more than twice as big as the largest I've ever previously posted and, looking back, it probably is too much, but I couldn't see that until it was posted. I will try to do better in the future. Apologies.

You are correct about /monster/ - they have a particular niche and they stick very well to that niche. But /hypno/ was supposed to be a general hypnosis board, so I don't really like the idea of banning any content at all, but the sissies have presented a unique problem.

For a general board to work, subtopics need to be organized into threads and there needs to be an overall peace founded on mutual respect between different factions, even when they don't really like each other. This board had that peace before the sissies showed up and tried to take over the board. The sissies were ordered into a containment thread to restore that peace and … well … we know how that turned out. For that behavior, I must admit that the sissies are worthy of banning and I have moved that they be banned.

>>58716

> What do you guys think of them?

They can be useful, if anons are sufficiently mature and aware of their limitations - IP-hopping shills will have many IDs, two anons using the same VPN or both on Tor will still have the same ID.

I've seen mods call out samefagging in the past and IDs would take care of that in the simple case, but IP-hopping shills will still IP-hop.

I would rather request the name and subject fields back. I believe this requires simply unchecking "Forced Anon" in the board settings and policing excessive namefaggotry, but namefagging and tripfagging do have their places in certain threads. One memorable namefag was "Nakadashi-kun the Wizard Emperor" who started(?) a "Mind Doll" thread once and told his own success story. Tripfagging is generally useful in some threads where a conversation has focused between a few anons.

>>58715

> tl;dr

>>>/reddit/

let make this a sissy only board and you straightfags can have your own board. hows that for "containment"

>>58723

>>>/sissy/

>>>/sissyhypno/

>>>/larp/

Not surprising things went downhill here, first 2 threads of this board are a toxic shitfest, then people take their shit into the threads which they assume are from the people insulting them here.

BO you need to make a fucking decision, either remove the sissyshit and deal with some immediate fallout or keep the board as is and remove these garbage stickies that are literally producing this entire drama.

>>58627

This. After they bombed the board during that temper tantrum I earnestly can't believe they're stupid enough to continue insisting that they belong here and everyone else is just wrong/"anti-trans"/whatever.

Keep the sissy content out of here and leave a link to a /sissyhypno/ or a board of their choosing in the header to help redirect traffic and get it started. I don't see why this wouldn't be acceptable for them either, as both parties do not get along with each other. This isn't a nation with forced multiculturalism.

If someone likes sissy and non-sissy hypno… who cares, they can look at both boards.

>>58726

Wrong.

Here is a short recap. There are 4 main parties on this board as stakeholders:

1) The board mods:

Imagine being on a board that shows anime girls suck the titties of other girls. Nice board. But it's a abdl board, this also means that portion of the people there like to wear the diaper themselves and mess it. I am not into abdl stuff. So that would ruin the experience for me a bit.

If I had to moderate a board filled with fat guys messing their diapers I wouldn't enjoy my moderating.

But to be fair..if i'd go to a abdl board to see anime chicks being breastfed by other anime chicks. And become a moderator there, despite a significant portion of the fetish is just fatguys messing themselves…then maybe I shouldn't become a boardmoderator there?

It's understandable that the moderator has an issue he needs solved. Despite me, personally wanting him rather gone. I can understand his position.

2) The sissy haters:

Some people on this board are a voice of complaint. Though unlike the moderator, they can choose to ignore posts that do not affect them personally, They choose to adress this, despite that option.

They are nothing more, nothing less that voice of complaint. Our board is not fast. Don't underistimate the importance of that information.

This means that on normal weeks we had 5-10 posts. And yes most of these lately were sissy related. This also unfortunately means that it would not take a large ammount of energy to make the playing field level. Energy that is absent in this party.

This means at this low level of posting…ABSOLUTE LACK of any energy that this board could some way benefit from vocal party is this groups whole agenda. Just sit back and complain till point of board destruction.

Despite the savior status these people promote themselves with. And their ability to turn their worthless opinions about sexual preference into a political defendable masterpiece of a statement ( or try 2).

They actually contribute, jack shit.

And this the party in line with the mods…so people are genuinely afraid of the consequences that following this path leads though. Sissy or not sissy.

The sissies:

Not much to say.

There were plenty of people telling how certain playlists,programms effected them while sharing files. There were also people that despite not being triggered or hypnotised to do so, would tell about their visits to hotels while carrying buttplugs and posting selfies. ( One needs moderation the other is just on fucking topic )

Other than that it's obvious that this group has 2 enemies. One of which they can't do much about.

The rest of us:

Just want files. So to me a sissy who ussually also has a decent portion of straight stuff and other fetishes to share, is one more person to add the jolly bonfire that is hypno.

This also means that if I see a file or discussion about a hypnotist I turn sour when that person is negatively adressing it.

Because the only outcome of that discussion is less porn.

A lot of people are saying oh..this party is butthurt or that party is butthurt. And belittling them.

OF COURSE some people are angry now. You are keyboard fighting them out of free porn.

Noone gives a shit about a moderator showing up every 2 weeks with a strong opinion. Noone gives a shit about people who think how people should behave. If the vocals were posting straight stuff and we had a mod that just did his job when rule 2 was broken we wouldn't be in this mess.

Now it's like:

We are doing jackshit other than fucking up a slow board that wasn't going anywhere anyway, but could occasionally share some free stuff.

But those guys still posting their niche fetish? Fuck them. And fuck them hard. Because it's been said over and over between the lines ( just read back ). That they rather want this thing dead than in hands of someone else.

But at the same time the sissies are the terrorist here :D

And the guys that rather want the board dead are somehow the heroes.

>>58730

I saw your post after posting im >>58729

If my agenda was less person A on a anonymous board.

And mods also want less person A.

What is stopping me from false flagging as person A?

Rather than attacking the sissies, why not defend the anti sissies?

What are they contributing? Start it simple. Anything at this point will do. Because I can tell you it will take a hard look in a whole bunch of nothing.

>>58716

Yes, please. I don't see why they hurt anonymity if the poster doesn't disclose personal information other than the writing style which can already be analyzed independently.

>>58730

After reading your wall i still don't get what exactly it is you think is wrong with my original statement. The stickies are the breeding ground for this drama easily, only faggots and trolls would go take a shit in threads they have no stake in otherwise. But when you have a shitthrowing contest at the top of the board some people obviously are gonna get salty and do irrational things.

You want a meta thread? Nice, but why the fuck does it have to be a sticky? Barf girl thread would have gone to hell a long time ago by standard rules. Now obviously with the nuking faggot i can see why you would sticky these discussion threads.

On a side note i find it funny that most people interpreted the barf girl op to be against the sissyfags when i felt like he meant humiliation/femdom/sissies as a whole which is like 90% of this board.

"mostly garbage and attract the wrong crowd"

There's often an unsavory element at those punk rock shows. I think it would be best if you got to bed early. It's a church night.

>>58724

/larp/

>>58584

Please manual "restore" please

>>58726

>>58734

>oy vey we can't have meta threads

The stickies aren't producing drama. These opinions has been growing on the board for years now, creating and derailing multiple threads, and if they're ignored they'll continue building in the background.

Something must be done eventually.

I've also retired Madotsuki's sticky. It's been archived at https://archive.is/LBlc2 and it'll also show up on the board archive whenever it falls off the catalog.

>>58735

He isn't missing much, punk has been shit for decades.

>>58720

how tf is the nigger straight from reddit with the reddit formatting shit telling me to go to reddit cuz i didnt read his giant wall of fag text?? suck a dick retard nobody wants to read your 5000 character wall of text about a hypnosis forum you freak of nature

>>58720

>I would rather request the name and subject fields back. I believe this requires simply unchecking "Forced Anon" in the board settings and policing excessive namefaggotry, but namefagging and tripfagging do have their places in certain threads.

>Tripfagging is generally useful in some threads where a conversation has focused between a few anons.

IDs also fill that role. Think I'll enable them for a while and see how it goes.

>>58745

That isn't reddit spacing, you retard.

>>58749

how tf would i know nigger point is he talks like a fag his shits all retarded and nobody gives a fuck about his long ass wall of gayness

>>58723

You're a homosexual?

>>58707

did you even fucking click on the board you link to?

>>58729

> Keep the sissy content out of here and leave a link to a /larp/ or a board of their choosing in the header to help redirect traffic and get it started. I don't see why this wouldn't be acceptable for them either, as both parties do not get along with each other.

I agree, and this is the expected result of the ban I proposed in >>58704 . Would you or anyone else be willing to second that motion?

> If someone likes sissy and non-sissy hypno… who cares, they can look at both boards.

The sissies are the only group that had a problem with the "everyone in their own threads" model that a general board must use.

>>58730

> So to me a sissy who ussually also has a decent portion of straight stuff and other fetishes to share, is one more person to add the jolly bonfire that is hypno.

Yes.

> This also means that if I see a file or discussion about a hypnotist I turn sour when that person is negatively adressing it.

If you are referring to the habit the sissies had of complaining about non-sissy threads, I agree. That was annoying, but I still tolerated them - nothing wrong with ignoring spam here or there or bantzing them a bit.

Torching the board changed my view - I now believe that sissies are cancer and should be banned from /hypno/ permanently. Not for shitting up the board, but for torching the board when told to stay in a containment thread.

>>58731

> What is stopping me from false flagging as person A?

To be effective, a false flag has to be something that others believe person A would actually do. Given the way the board was torched, there seems to be no doubt that the sissies are to blame. Whether the actual arsonist was a sissy or not is irrelevant - the misbehavior of the sissies has earned them a reputation such that "sissies torched /hypno/" is a believable accusation.

If the sissies had behaved better, your hypothetical false flag would not have been possible - it would be obvious that the sissies didn't actually do it. But that's not how events have played out, is it?

>>58745

If you've lurked, you should know that "tl;dr" is reddit-speak, and the idea it expresses is reddit-think, both of which do not belong on chans. Lurk moar or >>>/reddit/.

>>58763

> how tf would i know

You aren't supposed to throw around accusations without even knowing what you are accusing others of doing.

> nobody gives a fuck about his long ass wall

I gave enough of a fuck to write it - therefore you are wrong.

>>58778

> did you even fucking click on the board you link to?

The link to "/larp/" is not what I typed. The actual board was linked in the spam raid and its name has since been wordfiltered to "larp". I mentioned this in >>58713 as soon as I saw that it had happened.

>>58779

> every fucking hypnotist puts out sissy files

I think that you're exaggerating a bit there.

> do you ban the thread because some of her content is sissy?

No. I proposed that "any 'tist who primarily focuses on sissy content" and "any series that primarily focuses on sissification or bimbofication" be banned. A few sissy files or even a series of them would not be grounds to ban a 'tist. Discussions of such "unusual" sissy files would be permitted in the relevant general thread for that 'tist. If those discussions led to the discovery that a particular 'tist's non-sissy content all seems to push and lead to that 'tist's sissy content, that 'tist would be banned. I believe that this has been established for SB.

>>58781

No, it was wordfiltered because it was used in a spam campaign.

>>58785 (self reply)

> link to a /larp/ or a board of their choosing

Well, guess that's another wordfilter after another spam raid.

< polite sage for self-reply

I told you all, do not tolerate cancerous people. Why do you fucking idiots like to play with fire? Absolutely ban and nuke every single sissy shit thread, these people are cancer that is spreading throughout all online sexuality and sexual fetishes. As someone said, they are the furries of hypno. Don't tolerate these people, they should be burned and driven to suicide. Grant me volunteer or mod or something I'll guarantee I won't play around with those rats.

>>58711

Sissy dedeggded.

What do you do when one subset of a board grows so huge it consumes most of it? You spin it off to another board. Pure and simple. Is the board going to lose members? Yes, but the gain in quality justifies that loss.

>>58793

>most of it?

Sure, sure…

How much are we speaking of exactly?

About less than 10%?

>>58794

No, over 85% of it, due to their user base literally rioting and comandeering the whole place.

>>58796

Please take your meds. You're hallucinating again.

>>58794

>>58797

I love how you retards can't even agree with one another. You're "less than 10%" of the board whenever you want to whine and act like an oppressed minority (read: almost every fucking time you post), but then when people are finally sick of your shit, THEN you are the 80% and you make posts like >>58779 and point out that the board would be "dead" without your majority contributions. Which one is it really, faggot?

The answer: It doesn't matter, you need to be purged regardless.

>>58800

Actual content and discussion presence isn't equal to number of people involved with the content and contributing to the threads. The latter metric is hard to guess while the first clearly is worlds apart from anywhere near 80%. Also people probably aren't interested in just "sissy" or not.

That being said as you can clearly see by looking at the IDs the last quoted post wasn't made by me.

>>58785

go through the pre-nuke archive and look at the major "straight" hypnotists, find me how many don't have at least some sissy/gay content

guarantee there's like 3 or 4 left after eliminating 20+

the effort you've had to go to in your post just to come up with a rule makes it clear that the line is blurry as fuck, and would be a nightmare to actually enforce - i still support it though

i'd also like to point out IDs are kinda useless as people can (and should) VPN in to 8chan every time, they're only useful for keeping track of people who don't mind being kept track of (which has utility, i'm just saying it won't prevent samefagging)

>>58800

if you haven't been paying attention, i hope that they do actually fucking purge sissy content and send it all to hypno anarchy

i don't think you disagree with the idea that a large percent of the users were pro-sissy content or at least tolerant, given the ratio of sissy content to complaints about it.

anyway, it's you who's imposing this idea that we need to agree with each other, where the fuck does that idea even come from?

even look at the post nuke board anyway

how much 'straight' hypno has been dumped compared to sissy stuff? the ratio is already way in favor of sissy stuff

overall i think this whole drama has been from a vocal minority of assblasted anti-sissy faggots who don't enjoy the fact that they're in a minority for their fetish, and are sad about the lack of content catering specifically to their own tastes

the mod/board owner has clearly noticed this and made the choice to have a sissy-tolerant board with some content over a sissy-banning board with 0 content, why else would these sissy hating faggots not just pull the trigger and continue with an outright ban? explain this to me, please… your lack of calling out the BO for this only makes me think more strongly that it's a very small group who want to have their hypno cake and eat it too

>>58763

Let me educate you. >>58806 is reddit spacing, the torfag is not.

>>58713

>There's also the problem of people shitting up threads

It comes down to ignoring those sorts of posters. On slow boards derailment is especially effective. If you bait two or three replies then you've just ruined the SNR for an entire month in a thread you don't like.

People need to put there big boy pants on and ignore blatant bait. You can't reply to it on little slow boards. You just have to ignore it and wait a few days for it to be janitord/moderated/whatever.

congratulations you made a dead board even more dead.

what's the next step in your master plan?

>>58561

>guy who called himself contributor the only person who disagrees with me

Sorry to trigger your messiah complex, oh wise and non-autistic mod, but I'm the guy who said he had contributed lots of files. I posted twice in that thread, which was 100% of my activity on this board the past week. And no, I'm not back to share files with anyone, I'll be doing that elsewhere from now on (emp, fdc, retroshare, and imageboards that are not failing garbage).

>>58829

That wasn't about you, you pompous faggot.

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>>58723

> let make this a sissy only board and you straightfags can have your own board. hows that for "containment"

How did I miss this gem earlier?

Behold, everyone, the true goal and narcissistic entitlement of the sissies!

To really think that they should be allowed to completely take over what's supposed to be a general hypnosis board for their particular niche fetish!

Of course, the sissy also reveals its narrow worldview - gleefully erasing our gay and lesbian anons by dividing the entire world into only "straight" and "sissy" categories.

>>58792

> Absolutely ban and nuke every single sissy shit thread, these people are cancer that is spreading throughout all online sexuality and sexual fetishes.

A few weeks ago, I would have argued with you about this. Then the sissies torched the board. Now I agree with you. Is this a second for the motion in >>58704 to ban sissy content?

> As someone said, they are the furries of hypno.

No, the sissies are worse than furries - furries at least derail with OC, which has some intrinsic value. Sissies derail with bullshit whining about any content that doesn't cater to their particular fetish.

And the furries were some of the "early adopters" of hypno, expecting to make their fursonas "real" at least to themselves. After some hilarious "head full of fuck" incidents because people Did Not Do The Research before recording files, most furry forums have banned hypnosis categorically. I fondly remember the lulz from watching those train wrecks, but I don't recall the specifics anymore, sadly.

> Grant me volunteer or mod or something I'll guarantee I won't play around with those rats.

On a side note, is it possible to mod from Tor? If so, I also volunteer to help enforce a sissy ban.

>>58793

> What do you do when one subset of a board grows so huge it consumes most of it? You spin it off to another board. Pure and simple. Is the board going to lose members? Yes, but the gain in quality justifies that loss.

The sissies are worse than that. This is supposed to be a general board - that means that subtopics are supposed to have their own threads and each faction is supposed to stay in their threads, or at least refrain from complaining that other factions exist in the general threads for those other factions. If any topic other than sissies had organically grown too large to fit on /hypno/ they would have made their own board and kept a general thread here as a signpost to more discussions elsewhere. If the board grew many such "signpost" threads, we'd eventually collect them all into a single "signpost general" sticky next to the rules sticky.

But that's not the sissies' goal - as demonstrated by recent events and >>58723 - the sissies don't want coexistence, they want to take over and drive everyone else out.

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>>58806

> find me how many don't have at least some sissy/gay content

That's why I wrote the proposed rule the way I did - "primarily focuses" is specifically intended to exclude those who "dip a toe into sissy content" from the ban, while still banning the hardcore sissy 'tists and thereby sending the sissies elsewhere.

And the ban is specifically on sissy content - the gayfags haven't caused the same problems as the sissies, perhaps because the gayfags understand that tolerance is a two-way street?

> IDs are kinda useless

I mentioned the limitations of IDs in >>58720 but it seems that they are effective with sissies - make of that what you will.

> i don't think you disagree with the idea that a large percent of the users were pro-sissy content or at least tolerant, given the ratio of sissy content to complaints about it.

I never had a problem with sissy content - not my fetish so I don't care - and I tolerated the bad behavior of the sissies - bantzing them was fun - but I now call for a complete ban because the sissies torched the board.

> the ratio is already way in favor of sissy stuff

That's because the sissies were the first to return after torching the board, since they're trying to take over the board. The rest are likely waiting for now, to avoid having to remake threads just because the sissies threw another tantrum.

> made the choice to have a sissy-tolerant board with some content over a sissy-banning board

In case you haven't figured it out, that's more to do with difficulties of immediately enforcing such a ban and probably a mild case of PTSD after having the board torched out from under him by a sissy spammer.

> your lack of calling out the BO for this

… is giving the new BO - who was a mere new vol when the previous BO said to proceed with a containment test and could only watch helplessly as the sissies torched the board - some space to recover from the trauma and some reassurances that he is not to blame for the board being in ashes right now.

We're giving the new BO some time to recover from the shock before we start calling him out for cowardice in facing the sissy terrorists.

> i still support it though

The magic words are: I second the motion in >>58704 to ban sissy content.

Will you do that?

>>58815

> bait two or three replies

That was the problem with the sissies - they would take their own bait and chime in with how much they hated a thread that didn't cater to their fetish. The end result is anons trying to carry on a conversation while swatting away the retardposters - and the retardposters keep retardposting even if totally ignored by all others. Somehow or other, the sissies came to be recognized as the retardposters.

Shh..

No more threads now, only drama.

>>58836 >>58837

>>58785

>>58713 >>58710 >>58709 >>58708 >>58707 >>58706 >>58705 >>58704

At the moment the only person dividing the board visitors is you with your endlessly repetitive walls of text. I think everyone interested got your perspective by now.

You don't need to go to such lengths (literally) all the time to reiterate the same point just because the train to ban sissy content could be loosing speed or whatever else could motivate you to do this. When you have something NEW to write please do so but we don't need a write-up of every fucking line you want to reply to that was posted since you last visited the board. One or two especially interesting or controversial ideas will usually do to convey you opinion just fine.

>>58836

Get over it, we're here to stay and the board owner is on our side. Sorry that a fetish triggers you so much /pol/!

#SorryNotSorry

>>58846

This. I don't even like sissy audio but they literally did nothing wrong.

>>58846

>>58847

Fucking idiot. The post ID shows that you are the same person. If you're gonna samefag at least change your IP.

Also the BO is on his own side. He has got the responsibility to find an overall acceptable solution and will do so as he sees fit.

>>58785

"Whether the actual arsonist was a sissy or not is irrelevant."

I know that u think that. But by default this makes the other reasoning irrelevant as well. Hench I said it's time to stop the charade. Or like the other guy says no need to keep fueling the bandwagon.

>dramatic crusade-fagging on a board comprised of 100% stolen content

What if someone were to take their unscrupulous behavior and hide it behind a giant fucking shield of self-righteous anti-group crusading with over dramatic tones when said group is guilty of the same actions of the group they over-dramatically hate?

Welcome. I've been on and off this board for the better part of at least a year and a half if not two years. The sissy general was out of fucking left-field. It's not here forever, but then one day the "New Vision" has landed and all the sissies are virtually rounded-up and imprisoned in their content in one thread. That may sound dramatic but remember VIRTUALLY that is what happened. Why couldn't you imagine them all to become wet-cat angry? It's not like you made enforced generals for every hypno sub-genre. Just one.

It hints at the general distaste many *here* have of the larp subcommunity in the hypnofetish world. But by no means are any of the other sub-genres some kind of beacon of purity or non-degenerate behavior.

The reason why you see a lot of threads w/sissy content is its not all the same. Some of it is straight some of it is bi some of it is gay some of it is ageplay some of it is even further removed fetishes, etc. The reason trans hate sissy content is sissy's are not trying to get the world to validate them as biological women. Sissy is practically wholly a humiliation/degradation-feminization fetish. Trans feel like sissy's are undermining their quasi-political, social movement. And sissy's feel like Trans are getting their socio-political-biological stuff in their sex-oriented fetish. However we all know a fair amount of trans started out listening to sissy and now that they are trans they are too good to tolerate anything from the community yet they are still seeking hypnotism to take them to the next level instead of actualizing what they are doing IRL. It's a little hypocritical to yourself to make a bold statement to the world and fight for them to validate you in return and to slink back to your computer and fill your brain with trans reinforcing hypno. I feel like the trans and sissy communities are opposed at their core belief structures.

To the rest of the sub-genres of hypno, I don't understand inflation or feet and I admire pro-masculinity hypno seekers but being so virulently hateful of sissies in general, not just hypno spam is shocking in the fact that you are so vocal about sharing it *here* of all places. You would think this would be a neutral zone for all fetishes involving hypno

>>58846

>>58847

this samefagging is so obvious that i believe it to be a false flag

there's a lot of hurling accusations back and forth and speaking about "group X" and "group Y" as if they're all the same

i all i know is even as someone who doesn't mind sissy content, i'd rather see the board ban it (with a redirect to make sure those posters do have somewhere to post)

>when trannies are so self obsessed and petulant that they'd rather nuke the board than be quarantined for a few weeks

Great job, ladies. I'm sure everyone will like you better, now.

>>58797

>>>/larp/

>>58869

If feminization content does end up banned, they'll be directed to a different board.

>>58845

> whatever else could motivate you

Try the white-hot burning rage of an anon who came back to find the whole board had been slid into oblivion - with one extra little "fuck you" to the community. The slide was apparently done to ensure that spam posted in every thread would end up in the board archive and out-of-reach of the vol's "delete" button.

That motivation enough? Destroying every discussion on the board just to graffiti the archive? How much of an entitled narcissist do you have to be to do that? Does a … person … like that deserve to post on this board?

>>58852

> "Whether the actual arsonist was a sissy or not is irrelevant."

> I know that u think that. But by default this makes the other reasoning irrelevant as well.

No, it doesn't. Read that post again until you understand the core point - false flags can only work if the impersonated group might actually do it - only then does that group get the blame.

Let's do a thought experiment - while keeping everything else the same, imagine that the board was torched with footfag spam in response to sissies being ordered into containment. Do you think that anyone would believe for a minute that it was actually footfags who torched the board? Especially when footfags have long been good citizens and maintained their own general threads without needing to be told? No, we'd rightly suspect a false flag where sissies pretended to be footfags while torching the board.

>>58854

> board comprised of 100% stolen content

But that's wrong, you retard. We also have original discussions and sometimes - just sometimes - that elusive, semi-mythical OC on this board, even now. Unless you are showing your own views and revealing yourself as one of the trolls who tried to shit up the handful of threads that weren't all about file sharing.

And file sharing isn't theft either, you servile moron. Get the late-stage capitalist propaganda out of your head and accept that artificial scarcity is wrong.

> It's not like you made enforced generals for every hypno sub-genre. Just one.

No other sub-genre drew a steady drumbeat of complaint threads. No other sub-genre had to be ordered into a general thread - the others all maintained their own general threads voluntarily, following standard imageboard etiquette. Only the sissies seem to think that they're entitled to the whole catalog for their niche fetish. Only the sissies would post in non-sissy threads to complain that non-sissy threads even exist.

> being so virulently hateful of sissies

I didn't hate the sissies until they torched the board. I don't hate them for being sissies. I don't even hate them for shitting up non-sissy threads. I hate them for torching the board.

>>58865

Exhibit A - me.

>>58879

> they'll be directed to a different board

Might I suggest "larp-1" - the board that seemed to like the sissies so much they spammed this board to oblivion?

>>58886

> >somehow I've become their fucking bogeyman without even posting there

LULZ!

But weren't the sissies claiming that you're on their side because they haven't been banned from /hypno/ yet?

>>58894

>punish all for the action of one

you think that the spammer is collectively everyone who posted a particular subject on this board, lol

all i want is to come here, look at my porn, post porn and leave, i don't care about politics or anybody elses threads

>>58854

"I feel like the trans and sissy communities are opposed at their core belief structures."

I (as a long time lurker here) think you are spot on about this, for me sissy is part of the femdom and humiliation thing, for me true sissies are not trying to be women they are symbolically being unworthy men which involves adopting grossly exaggerated signs of femininity which makes them look ridiculous, not like women. I'm not interested in the gay stuff because basically men don't attract me and it's the feeling of being helplessly attracted to women that brings me to femdom and fdhypno in the first place. I dislike it when hypnodommes attempt to persuade me to be actually attracted to men, it spoils sissy stuff for me, because it just stops me feeling helplessly submissive, if I'm having to force myself to be attracted to something. But I suppose that stuff is aimed at men who do have some homoerotic desires but feel guilty about it, I'm not attracted to men but wouldn't feel guilty if I was.

I have actual political objections to transactivism, they are obsessed with gender as if it was an essential innate quality while the biological body is not, and as such they are actually deeply reactionary in social terms and they are threatening women's spaces. The vast majority of born males will always be physically more powerful than the vast majority females, even if they wear a dress, even if they are post op, as such they are a threat to women (especially if attracted to them) and will always outdo them in things like sports involving strength and speed, so women need safe spaces and their own sports. Allowing any male who claims he is a woman to access women's spaces is a direct threat to women's safety, it's just not on. Plus I find transactivists, (especially transwomen who are attracted to women) to be manipulative and self obsessed expecting the world to conform to their fantasy (their desire to become what they desire). They are anti-feminist in that they contradict the idea males and females can do whatever they want (beyond biological abilities) without ceasing to be men or women. Claiming that a boy who likes playing with dolls is in fact a woman/girl is not to liberate males and females to do as they please but in fact limits them, it says only women could ever enjoy playing with dolls.

The other day I saw a transwoman transactivist I know personally posting on twitter "I don't understand cis folk. How can they know what gender they are if they've never tried being anything other than one?" The answer being; we don't give a fuck which gender we are, we accept our biology and whatever tastes and abilities we have and get on with life. Ultimately gender is bullshit, masculinity and femininity are a set of socially constructed associative signs and roles we perform, feminism is about men and women's right as individuals to use these signs as they see fit without being collectively trapped by them into particular roles. Traditionalists use biology to determine social roles and behaviour, transactivists use behaviour to determine biology.

But the trouble here on this board is a bunch of feartie traditionalists (rightards always feel threatened by something) who see no distinction between femdom/sissy or homosexuality and transactivists because they are misogynists who feel threatened by any sign they associate with femininity (i.e passivity) in males, they think it's all a Jewish plot to weaken the race by making white men girly and thus letting them being overrun by untermensch, that's why you've got that anon repeatedly posting that antisemitic "who is behind this post" meme. They are throwing a politically motivated tantrum here about having to wade through sissy stuff and hoping to get straights on to their side in this, but not just because they ain't into it. They were deliberately triggering (probably) one of the transactivists types to throw a predictable self righteous tantrum, but fuck, why should the trannies be treated as exceptional when it's a bunch of politically motivated rightards who aren't actually into hypno anyway who were deliberately stirring them and are now busy concern trolling about it.

I'm really not into the gay/cocksucking, actually trying to become a woman, stuff, but I have no objections to searching through it to find things I am interested in and those who are into these things contribute more than the incels wanting to hypnotise women (and nobody is stopping them posting such stuff). We don't need seperate boards, the transactivist types and the rightards deserve each other, they have more in common than they think, they are both being manipulative and most people visiting this board don't belong to either of these groups and are perfectly capable to tolerating fetishes they don't share to find things they are interested in. Further It is impossible to cut a clear distinction between sissy and straight stuff.

>>58896

Nicely worded! Thanks!

>>58896

That is a pretty accurate analysis in my opinion.

I think the motivation/reasoning behind transgender, lgbtqxyz… as well as rightfags is slightly different than portrayed but that's a different topic. The description of their actions and specific goals and the implications for the board is spot on and describes very well why the whole discussion about "sissy" containment is ultimately a dead end.

What isn't addressed though is if there is still a problem with the board (maybe the dreaded post quality, overall engagement, …) and if so, what should/could be done to improve the situation (new rules, stricter enforcement, …).

After all the discussion isn't coming from nowhere and had been ongoing for quite some time now.

What to do about the gender controversy?

Maybe discussions about gender should be generally prohibited so that neither group can derail a thread into a political discussion that isn't relevant to the fetish. If that seems too hard one thread could be dedicated to it.

I know this appears awfully similar to the "sissy" containment thread but the goal is not to restrict any tist or fetish thread but to limit a certain kind of discussion that doesn't belong here at all to one thread so mods have an easier time keeping threads clean and the discussion isn't drowned completely, because apparently that leads to mayhem and the main sticky already is very similar to such solution anyway.

In the long run there probably needs to be another discussion about what /hypno/ should be and how to archive this over time but I think it's best to deal with the current problems first.

>>58905

the way to deal with it is to leave the board and never return, let it die and find somewhere else to discuss hypno (/larp/ is pretty dead too but i'll check there occasionally)

i've not posted outside this meta thread since the nuke

>>58912

Running away from problems isn't my style. I like to solve things and despite what has happened the underlying problem doesn't seem to be too hard to get a hold of. There just haven't been many tries but one catastrophic failure. So a trying less invasive option and a different perspective on the problem (I didn't think it was sissy stuff in the first place) is probably the way to go forward.

Also /hypno/ is probably still the best prospect for a general hypnosis (fetish) board in the immediate future.

>>58913

(switched VPNs since previous post)

hey i'll still read it, i'm just done contributing

verification every post and the thread of the board getting wiped/sissys gulagged again

>>58896

>most of the anti-feminizationfag complaints in this thread and others are about their bad behaviour

>lol no it's just righttards who don't like these unmanly fetishes and jews

>source: my ass

If your theory were true, you would see anons for the ban of other fetishes they see as unmanly or don't like, such as premature ejaculation, pegging, all those weird humiliation files, or even femdom. They aren't. This is like arguing imageboards often ban furries because they hate cute, fuzzy things while ignoring all the baggage they bring with them.

>>58905

>Maybe discussions about gender should be generally prohibited so that neither group can derail a thread into a political discussion that isn't relevant to the fetish. If that seems too hard one thread could be dedicated to it.

Prohibiting them would be stupid otherwise you're basically giving tumblrfags free reign to make stupid remarks without fear of anons calling them an idiot but I agree that it gets out of hand sometimes.

>>58916

>basically giving tumblrfags free reign

A little bit of an overstatement I think.

I actually had a particular thread in mind when I was making the suggestion. The Omegle thread turned into basically the derailment I wrote about and I think that the post >>58835 is to blame for starting to argue about what is or isn't a man, woman etc. The first tip about not telling a tist how one identifies is about as much as was needed to get the point across. The rest is just begging for a discussion and consequently derailed the thread.

I don't care who starts it, but the different (political) opinions or interpretations about how to handle gender images seems to be a bigger problem than the sissy ban discussion it has caused.

Of course this means both sides would have to take a hit to their ability to defend their perspective or call others out as you'd probably put it. In the interest of the board I don't think it's too much of a sacrifice to not have the ability to shitpost in a specific way because of the mere mentioning of someone identifying as trans gay or whatever if it means not having to read about their views of society in the same regard.

So the limit could basically be anything that just doesn't concern the social construct of a gender but solely mentioning what one identifies as and/or is attracted to, be it dragons, feet or a trans person.

I mean, one could most likely already moderate topics that way while following the current rules for staying on topic and at least loosely connected to hypnosis, but having something more direct to point to is never wrong when deleting controversial posts.

Furthermore I agree with the other post insofar as being a biological (just to prevent the stupid questions) male and attracted only to women, I am also very interested in forced feminization.

Personally I draw the line for what's too much at suggestions for being attracted to men or taking hormones. Futa or interacting with phallic objects isn't a problem though.

I don't see why that is so far removed from premature ejaculation fanatics or female supremacists that it wouldn't belong here anymore as from my perspective it's just as straight (or gay) as those topics.

>>58895

> you think that the spammer is collectively everyone who posted a particular subject on this board

One bad apple spoils the bunch, as they say.

And this particular bunch has many bad apples, though perhaps only one board-torching spammer. I don't believe that all of the bad behavior of the sissies over several years is one exceptionally bad individual. And yes, if banning all sissies is needed to get that one exceptionally toxic individual to leave, then some collateral damage to "innocent" sissies is unavoidable.

>>58896

> true sissies are not trying to be women they are symbolically being unworthy men which involves adopting grossly exaggerated signs of femininity which makes them look ridiculous, not like women

Oh dear $DEITY, you're right - the transfaggots have stolen the very word "sissy" and the scum who torched the board call themselves sissies, but are not actually sissies. Sissies would have liked the OP image on the containment thread because it's exactly the pathetic parody that they want to be.

I don't get off on humiliation, so I didn't see this until you pointed it out. Thank you, anon.

> it's the feeling of being helplessly attracted to women that brings me to femdom and fdhypno in the first place

Fucking hell, "sissy" does imply "straight" but the mentally-ill transfaggots have sought to hijack it.

Have I correctly extracted that the "sissy" fetish is about being so helplessly attracted to women that you'll endure any humiliation for them? Even the fundamentally erasing humiliation of becoming a pathetic parody of a woman, all to prove that you really will do anything for her? Because "dropping dead" doesn't leave room for a repeat performance…

I will have to think about this and amend my previous motion to ban sissy content in >>58704 to express this distinction. I think a "trans-sissy" label may be needed to express the banned content, and I will work on a definition.

This does at least give a test for distinguishing the true sissies from the mentally-ill - simply say "you'll never pass" - a sissy will thank you, getting off on the humiliation of knowing that you're right about him, while the mentally-ill will start reeeing about tumblr bullshit.

>>58913

> I like to solve things and despite what has happened the underlying problem doesn't seem to be too hard to get a hold of.

The hardest part seems to have been identifying the underlying problem. Until reading >>58896, I had thought the sissies were the problem, but he explained how the true sissies are innocent and the problem is the transfags hijacking the sissies' fetish to feed their own mental illnesses.

>>58916

> If your theory were true, you would see anons for the ban of other fetishes they see as unmanly or don't like, such as premature ejaculation, pegging, all those weird humiliation files, or even femdom. They aren't.

He missed the motivation for the response, but now that I think about it, I think he's got the root cause almost exactly. I'm not too surprised that I missed the transfags passing themselves off as sissies - I'm not in the habit of looking all that closely at fetishes I don't care about - and it does make a lot more sense from his view. It's also worth noting that only the transfag fake sissies caused problems - every other one of those fetishes organized themselves into general threads without having to be told to do it. Only the transfag fake sissies spread across the board, shitting up the threads they couldn't outright hijack - and the rise of that particular brand of "sissyposting" correlates well to the general rise of transfaggotry on the Internet. They never pass anyway, which is how they could blend in with the sissies, who don't even try to pass.

I think I've already got an ethical justification for banning transfags - one of the basic ethical tenets generally accepted in the erotic hypnosis community is that erotic hypnosis is entertainment and not therapy. But the transfags are seeking to hijack the fetish and turn it into a sort of therapy for their mental illnesses. That alone should be adequate grounds to ban the transfags. We can keep the sissies after all, but we'll need to protect them from the transfag sexual predators. And I believe that this is the right thing to do.

> This is like arguing imageboards often ban furries because they hate cute, fuzzy things while ignoring all the baggage they bring with them.

I've said this before and I'll say it again - the transfag fake sissies are worse than furries.

>>58766

cringy ass anime poster

does dumb ass shit

talks like fag

is fag

>>58785

nigga i been on the chans since before you was garanteed

and NOPE tl;dr did not come from fukin reddit it was around before that shit even existed the fact that you think that and you saying shit like "reddit-think" only belies your true faggotry. feel free 2 go back to jerking off over the fact that you're on the chans and that makes you real real fuckin cool now cuz i probably wont be back for a few more days again anyway

>>58922

Well then, we must have been on different chans, because I first remember seeing "tl;dr" in the early days of reddit before it went to complete shit and I certainly thought that it was an awfully faggoty idea then. What a surprise that accepting that kind of intellectual laziness leads to the site drowning in faggotry.

>>58923

well then you must be a fucking retard because tl;dr's first sightings on the internet (hint: it was at something awful not reddit, dipshit) predates reddit's founding by quite a while

>>58926

anime posters have always been cringy

yes i know you have always been an integral part of chan culture you weeb. a very cringy part. most of you animeposters outgrew your bullshit when you realized chinese cartoons weren't the end-all be-all of fucking civilization. you still wank over 2d images of imaginary children though thats neat i guess

>>58933

ooh u got me

sick burn m8

>>58936

I WILL!!!!11!!! motherfucker!!!!!!

you are a faggot. the entire "meta thread" is shit, i cannot be shitting it up. it is a circle jerk of you faggots complaining about shit that doesn't matter, while killing your board in the process. and i guarantee i have been on the chans longer than you too ya mongoloid and chansites and imageboards are two separate things you colossal cunt, SA Ebaums GenMay etc are imageboards but they are not chansites learn the difference before you talk shit

btw to the guy who thinks tl;dr comes from fucking reddit, you really must have no idea where any of this "imageboard culture" even comes from. ill give you a brief lesson. 4chan is the Rome to SA's Greece. Everything SA did, 4chan aped and made bigger and better, until eventually they got so big they started infighting and splitting off into little subsections of each other. 4chan threw in a bit more cringy otaku culture because they copied the format of 2channel, but they were basically an anonymous version of something awful until people like you came along and started shitting it up by pretending there was some kind of cool kids club, which brought in all the kids wanting to be cool, which led to stupid shit like raiding and the neverending cycle of more faggots like you streaming in and shitting things up with their idiocy. which is why today 4chan is nothing but gay porn and rate my butt threads and unfortunately you faggots have even begun to infect some of the more obscure refuges that normal people fled to to get away from this faggotry causing many of them to go down as well over the years due to the fatigue of dealing with mongs such as yourselves

>>58920

>simply say "you'll never pass" - a sissy will thank you

Please note that the term "sissy" isn't clearly defined anymore. In my opinion it should indeed always incorporate humiliation, but in the discussion about what to ban it was also (temporarily) extended to feminization and possibly even bimbotization (or however it's called), which I don't think should be integrated within the meaning.

I'm >>58917 and neither like sissy (humiliation) nor trans (male attraction, hormones) hypnosis but only forced feminization for the domination aspect. The tist also should have a female voice. So this doesn't fit in with either stereotypical straight or sissy hypno but still is far from trans.

For me it isn't about passing or being humiliated (this is sort of implied by the arguably lower status of women) but about the strong psychological dominance a full role reversal entails. So it's sort of a special special kind of femdom.

So in conclusion feminization also isn't directly trans but can very well be straight and by creating arbitrary definitions we won't get very far because some sort of fetish will always end up on the wrong side no matter how precise the definition was made.

If you want a solution that holds up in the future you have to define a problem and goal what the new rule should accomplish first, before you can set up a number of rules that attempt to fulfill these objectives.

That's why I proposed the rule of prohibiting gender related discussions. The problem is gender discussions always triggering political discussions which don't belong here, and the goal is to limit thread derailment and thereby improving thread quality by giving mods an easily applicable guideline to intercept these discussions.

A more general solution would be to stop all unrelated discussions but that seems a bit drastic when the usual complaint is that the thread quality degrades whenever loosely "sissy/trans related posts are made.

>>58932

> it was at something awful not reddit

Which makes it goon-think instead of reddit-think, which is even worse.

… You'll never get your tenbux back, goon.

>>58940

>>58941

The goon fears the anime and projects itself onto others. Stay assblasted, goon.

>>58942

> Please note that the term "sissy" isn't clearly defined anymore.

This lack of clarity is only due to the transfag effort to hijack the term.

> In the discussion about what to ban it was also (temporarily) extended

That was due to confusion - exactly the confusion that the transfags seek to spread. I see more clearly now.

> For me it isn't about passing

That's how I propose to recognize transfags - only the transfags care about passing.

> only forced feminization for the domination aspect

Do I have the correct idea that straight feminization is more about helpless attraction to women? Such helpless attraction that you'll endure anything for them? Even the fundamentally erasing humiliation of becoming a pathetic parody of a woman, all to prove that you really will do anything for her? Because "dropping dead" doesn't leave room for a repeat performance…

Is this the draw to feminization for you?

> define a problem and goal what the new rule should accomplish first

Problem: transfags have torched the board.

Goal: transfags are removed from the board.

Second goal: sissies and other non-trans feminization fetishists get a safe space in one of the many corners on this board, protected from the transfag sexual predators.

I think we can draw a line here. Content that demands the listener "play dress-up" is allowed, but content that attempts to convince the listener to change his body, that his body has changed, or to make the listener sexually attracted to men, in a feminization context, would be banned.

The fundamental difference is that straight feminization intends for the listener to remain fully aware that he is a man and to remain helplessly attracted to women, so attracted that he keeps crawling back for more, while transfag feminization attempts to change the listener into a woman.

"Do I have the correct idea that straight feminization is more about helpless attraction to women? Such helpless attraction that you'll endure anything for them? Even the fundamentally erasing humiliation of becoming a pathetic parody of a woman"

I was the anon speaking about "grossly exaggerated signs of femininity" above

No, it's not about becoming a parody of women, doing that exhibits an underlying hostility towards women, some transwomen types do do this, but it depends on the individual. But sissy stuff in a hetero femdom sense is about not being an man, it's about parodying themselves, not being an equal to a woman … and in our culture the signs we have for that are those of excessive femininity, or perhaps infantalism for those into that. It's also about atrophying the ego, thus attempting to reach or re-enact a psychological state before we developed our ego (our sense of self) and thus identity. Humiliation is the psychological equivalent to pain, thus serving the same function of ritualised pain for a masochist, which in turn is about reaching a point of intensity in desire. This is another difference from the trans thing, transactivists are all about pedantically asserting their identity as being distinct from their biology, and woe betide anyone who gets their pronouns wrong, while masochists are dissolving or stepping out of their daily identity.

>>58961

Can you please start using post numbers and properly formated (green) citations for better readability?

The former is automatically filled in when you click the post no. you want to reference and the latter is a matter of inserting a single pointy bracket in front of the cited text which covers everything until the next line break.

For more information look here:

https://8ch.net/faq.html#how-do-i-reply-to-another-poster

You people are really too dumb to realize the spammer was most likely a false flag to get you riled up at sissy shit.

Y'all getting super clanish and it's very obvious you are all very easily manipulated.

>>59018

I agree with this person.

Me an unique individual whomst is posting for the first time in dis thread and is not anyone else in this thread.

>>58846

>>58847

>>59018

>>59019

fuck off retard. also good job BO encouraging faggots like this.

Can we ban the cancer that is tradefags?

>>59033

I can't do anything about tradefags on RetroShare or volafile.

>>59033

Trading is forbidden. Look at the rules.

>>59039

>>59040

Well then, I didn't see that. Has that always been there or did previous BOs just not enforce it?

>>59041

>or

It's "and" sadly. He didn't have the time or endurance to consequently go after people attempting to trade.

Also there is kind of a grey zone when someone wants to encourage sharing by requesting a different file before uploading their own collection/a new file. The difference here would be that the files of both sides end up openly accessible.

>>59214

> What the fuck have you ever gotten from 8chan but wasted time and sissy spam?

That would be teh lulz, good sir. Which is something you'll never truly understand, because you're a butt-blasted goon.

Stay assmad, goon.

> I got my first cushy SV programming job thanks to a Goon, which allowed me to jumpstart my career and networking without screwing around with a university. I've even hooked up with a few goonettes.

For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gaine the whole world, and lose his owne soule? - Mark 8:36, King James Version

> SA remains the best forum on the internet

If SA is so great, why are you here?

> someone sounds mad 'cuz they got perma'd

The goon projects.

< polite sage for bantzing the goon

> me, a /pol/ regular

> saw the drama in /hypno/ got spilled over to /pol/

BO should really tell /trannypol/ to back off like >>58847

Let me enjoy both boards in peace please

>>59032

>>58848

>>58860

At least this is on-point with >>>/pol/13205715 that they don't want to be bothered with

>>59349

This is an erotic hypnosis board and not /pol/ nor /leftypol/. Discussing political views here is as pointless as trying to merge the two previously mentioned boards. This board also shouldn't cater specifically to any one of those shitholes.

Doing so would inevitably hurt the ones who are here for what the board name implies it stands for, a legitimate interest in all kinds of (erotic) hypnosis.

To put it differently: Remember the fucking objective!

Sissy hypnosis ideology aligns with far left white replacement ideology. It's focus on cuckolding, elevating women to positions of godhood, elevating positions of black to the ideal alpha male, diminishing whites to slaves who shouldn't breed, etc. The tenents I listed are not only the core belief system of radical left ideology, but also of BDSM as a whole. Inside BDSM exists a core of satanic cultists, I've seen them on fetlife forming bdsm cults, etc. They are still there by the way. Sissy-ism is not just a warped fetish in itself it is a core quadrant of BDSM as a whole. Most people don't know that. But I wager that feminization and sissy-ism comprises at least 1/4 of all BDSM ideology since a large part of BDSM is about crossing sexuality lines and then assigning roles to people.

>>59375

To repeat what >>59372 said: This is a hypno-fetish board, not /pol/ or /leftypol/. No one here cares about your political opinion or political theories.

>>59375

I think you're exaggerating a bit there. ALL BDSM? Really?

What exactly does this board administrator like about hypnosis?

Does he want this to be the "attract money" and "stop smoking" board, with no attention drawn to how inherently passive and submissive going into trance is?

This is like a transportation board being run by someone who really likes bicycles and wants all cars, vans, trucks, motorbikes, and motorboats to go in /motor/ general.

>>59375

>cuckolding, elevating women to positions of godhood,

>core belief system of radical left ideology, but also of BDSM as a whole.

You clearly don't know anything about BDSM, female submissives drastically outnumber male ones.

>>59426

>Does he want this to be the "attract money" and "stop smoking" board, with no attention drawn to how inherently passive and submissive going into trance is?

Why would you alienate the people who do want to come here for "attract money," "stop smoking," or for that matter diet, weight loss, exercise, or self-esteem hypnosis by making this a board that primarily caters to people with one particular interest or fetish? I'm interested in self-hypnosis and putting other people into trance, do I need to bail on this board because I'm not submissive?

>>59433

>It's hot and comfy at the same time, why wouldn't I like it?

You're adorable, board owner. Glad to have you here.

>>59426

>unironically equating one retarded niche sub-fetish of hypnosis to the majority of transportation

>ever-present R*ddit spacing

Fucking hell you faggots are retarded. Either you can't form a proper analogy or you're just delusional to the point of lacking any self-awareness. To use your terms, this board would be more akin to a transportation board being flooded with bicycle content when it was intended for all transportation, with the people posting bicycle content throwing an absolute fucking tantrum and even bombing the board at the very notion of having their threads contained.

>>59433

I don't understand, but for some reason I feel slightly appeased.

>>59439

>>59468

A more logical solution would be to have a worksafe hypno board and a NSFW hypno board. You could have a picture of tumbleweed for your banner.

Seriously, when 95% of the threads are on one topic, that is simply what the board is about. That's what the users want. Hence the analogy of almost all relevant content being packed into one thread and the rest of the board given to a niche interest.

I'm sure gay is gay as far as hairy chested hypnosis enthusiasts like you are concerned, but it turns out the content is not interchangeable or even particularly compatible, as if the users have tastes and know what they want. Weird.

>>59496

> Seriously, when 95% of the threads are on one topic, that is simply what the board is about.

Sissy content was never 95% of /hypno/. You're delusional.

> That's what the users want.

Or it's what a very vocal minority of spammers want.

>>59531

I think he's talking about SFW vs NSFW hypnosis.

>>59531

>>59543

I'm exaggerating slightly, but most threads are about specific hypnotists, and hypnotists usually do a variety of "genres" that can't all fit into one thread.

But even when they're ostensibly doing the same genre, they could be doing it in completely opposing styles. To take a few examples: Ke1, (((B4mb1)))sleep, S4mb4n, Mistress St3||4 - they have very little in common other than their subject matter, and the last two vary their subject matter. Dreams or bubblegum? Mental anaesthesia or womanly drama? The moods clash; you cant have a good general thread when people don't have the same outlook.

Some hypnotists also require different sharing protocols than others, so they couldn't very well share the same /sissygeneral/ volafile link. It would be awkward and inefficient.

>>59548

>they have very little in common other than their subject matter, and the last two vary their subject matter. Dreams or bubblegum? Mental anaesthesia or womanly drama? The moods clash; you cant have a good general thread when people don't have the same outlook.

This is also true of other hypnotists, yet their followings get along fine in topical threads.

>Some hypnotists also require different sharing protocols than others, so they couldn't very well share the same /sissygeneral/ volafile link. It would be awkward and inefficient.

Again, other topical threads also have this problem and it hasn't stopped them. You guys have this running theme of complaining about things that others either aren't bothered by or tolerate until better options arise.

>>59549

I don't agree.

For one the threads of the mentioned tists feature enough discussion and posts to make it impractical to handle them the same as a fetish that doesn't create as much interest or involvement and thus has to be concentrated in a single thread to prevent having many threads with next to no engagement.

Also the most problematic posts in the former threads are the ones trolling by attacking people who provided their sexual interest or self-image as additional information in the hope of getting better fitting file recommendations. The trolls usually immediately go off topic by introducing some left vs right worldview discussion which of course (we are on the internet after all) triggers other idiots of the other end of the spectrum to engage in the usual thread derailment.

So, if you want to stop that the easiest solution would be to restrict people getting enraged by others providing actual information that doesn't match the former ones' worldview. The deciding factor is that one is possibly helpful and on topic information and the other is just reactionary trolling.

There are probably other ways to handle that specific problem, but in my opinion it itself is the key to the problems some have with the board.

>>59551

> So, if you want to stop that the easiest solution would be to restrict people getting enraged by others providing actual information that doesn't match the former ones' worldview. The deciding factor is that one is possibly helpful and on topic information and the other is just reactionary trolling.

> There are probably other ways to handle that specific problem, but in my opinion it itself is the key to the problems some have with the board.

A good point, but one that cuts both ways - I've also seen "sissies" enter other completely unrelated threads and complain simply because those threads had nothing to do with them. The transfags are the only group that I recall ever doing this.

>>59549

Whether you want to have a literal, real-life sex change or not is not apples and oranges, BO. You may be surprised to learn that castration and total identity change are sensitive issues. Some of us are only in it because the threat of that is weirdly erotic. Others are completely sincere. Others are just taking a holiday from being a man. These are not flavours of ice cream.

What is so difficult about not clicking on threads that don't interest you? If you want to purge the board, at least be direct about it.

>>59562

It's almost as if they're the largest group on this breast and steak appreciation board. We better put them all in one thread in one of our quarterly efforts at moderation.

I think it's possible that "the two groups" (that exist all of a sudden) will eventually go their separate ways, but that won't consist of a single incoherent and unwieldly ghetto thread; it'll be a different board. But I wonder how much activity there would be here if that happened.

If a split did occur, it would be the middle ground people or casual fetishists who get the shit end of the stick, since a sissy board would become a trans board, and the old board would become a board about camwhores saying the word obey repeatedly. Most forms of femdom would be split down the middle in a way that makes them awkward to put in either category (if you're being honest with yourself.)

>>59562

There is an important difference between someone going into a Halo thread to talk about why he doesn't like Halo and the second is like someone going into an RTS thread to complain that it isn't about Undertale. There is absolutely no way I'm banning the former because otherwise threads risk becoming echo chambers (it can get out of hand so moderators must deal with each case individually) and the latter is just retarded.

Is the former exclusive to feminization and sissy threads? No. It also pops up in hypnotist threads and threads for other disliked fetishes like cuckolding.

>>59551

>the ones trolling by attacking people who provided their sexual interest or self-image as additional information in the hope of getting better fitting file recommendations

That's also more complicated than you'd think. Outside dedicated sissy/feminization threads, telling people you're a sissy or transgender when looking for recommendations is often as irrelevant as telling them you're Filipino.

>>59569

>It's almost as if they're the largest group on this breast and steak appreciation board

>I think it's possible that "the two groups" (that exist all of a sudden) will eventually go their separate ways… But I wonder how much activity there would be here if that happened.

>since a sissy board would become a trans board, and the old board would become a board about camwhores saying the word obey repeatedly

Sometimes you guys amaze me with how ignorant you are of the board and fetish outside your niche.

>>59562

Well, in my opinion such behavior is completely ridiculous and no matter who does this it is just annoying to everyone around. If you don't have something relevant to contribute you should better stay quiet. Spreading negativity is just detrimental to everyone's experience and since it's mostly off topic anyway it could be deleted whenever a mod gets to notice it, in my opinion, although this may be another issue that needs a little extra attention if it's not sufficiently covered by the current rules.

>>59571

> someone going into a Halo thread to talk about why he doesn't like Halo

That's fine - "why I don't like X" is on-topic for a thread about X.

The most annoying thing about Halo is that the game only lets you carry two weapons. Sure it's realistic, but I'm playing a game for a reason.

> someone going into an RTS thread to complain that it isn't about Undertale

> the latter is just retarded

And this is what happened - the first incident that springs to mind was someone posting "saging shit thread" with no further explanation at all. After several attempts to get a reason why he would bother to post in a thread he hated so much, he started saying how great (((B4mb1))) Sleep is, but never gave any reason for disliking the thread he was posting in.

>>59600

There was also a ridiculous highjacker in the (((B4mb1))) threads a while back.

Pointless hostility (shitting things up without any attempt at discussion) should get a ban regardless of who's doing it. If I remember rightly, there was some kind of cycle of retaliation and mutual false-flagging, because there simply was no way to moderate other than for both parties to try to ruin the other's reputation. That went about as well as you might expect.

>>59426

When I started browsing /hypno/ years ago, I was mostly interested in hypnosis tutorials and getting chicks down under for fun and profit. Eventually I also discovered that self-hypnosis can be used to make your life better and I really enjoyed that path as well. Eventually I picked up HFO files here and there and, overall, my experience with /hypno/ was extremely positive. Meanwhile, plebbit had some good hypno tips, tutorials and exercises, but it was mostly full of sissies and domination scripts read by fat "Mistressess" that insisted you thought of them as a Goddess.

Needless to say, this place was heaven. A place where every fetish, every discussion was possible, and I remember we had lengthy threads about how we were he ones who started the whole "If you dont consent to it, your brain will stop it from happening" meme.

Now look at the state of this board. This became a file sharing platform, discussion of the hobby became the exception rather than the norm, and dont even get me started on the sissies. The fact that they torched the entire board to avoid staying in a single thread which is ironically something good since it encourages conversation instead of file dumping says wonders about their character.

Regardless, I found a small community of like-minded people so I only visit here now like once a month to see if things can get better, but its extremely sad to see this /hypno/ go like this. Not with a bang, but with a sissy's whimper.

>>59609

Pretty much this. I eventually found my way here after anonib went tits up and the board has changed a fuckton since then.

Pretending that sissyfaggots are in any way an integral part of /hypno/ is pure dishonesty.

>>59617

>an integral part of /hypno/

No, they're not and never were. They are a subsection of the hypnosis fetish just like so many others.

If there is a specific problem propose a rule change or addition, that can be generally (to all fetishes) applied to solve the problem. Banning one particular fetish doesn't work for various reasons, finding a clearly applicable definition being one that's already lead to problems. Also starting with censoring just a certain topic is always only the beginning of a crusade against an ever increasing number of things some random people have problems with, and that is the exact reason we're here and not on a better known website with more active users.

>>59602

Looks like /sp/am to me.

>>59604

> There was also a ridiculous highjacker in the (((B4mb1))) threads a while back.

Are you referring to the "l33t h4x0R" who claimed to have replaced the files with modified versions carrying a subliminal suggestion to commit suicide? Or is this a different incident?

> Pointless hostility (shitting things up without any attempt at discussion) should get a ban regardless of who's doing it.

Agreed. I believe that the transfags are currently the predominant source of that hostility.

>>59609

> I remember we had lengthy threads about how we were he ones who started the whole "If you dont consent to it, your brain will stop it from happening" meme.

Like all good propaganda, there's some truth in that. The trick is that hypnosis can be used over time to manufacture consent. As I've always put it - hypnosis can't make you do something you don't want, but it can change what you want.

>>59635

On the other hand, broken files at least can be useful as examples of what not to do. Agreed on the deliberate deception - that's why I mentioned SB in my original motion to ban "sissy" content.

>>59640

> the website still claims his files aren't permanent

Which website? The one that pajeet-tier SEO spammers were promoting as a chronic pain remedy?

That was a new low for (((B4mb1))) Prime, if it even was (((B4mb1))) Prime and not - as was claimed - merely a crazy member of the fan club.

> the (((B4mb1))) files were originally spread here by (((B4mb1)))fags spamming them in unrelated threads for several weeks

They didn't hit many of the threads I was watchi- wait a minute - there were a bunch of posts with suspiciously bad writing that did indeed pop up around that time, but the (((B4mb1)))s were pretty aggressively slapped down by the other anons in those threads that still had useful discussion.

>>59641

>Which website?

The official blogspot site. I haven't looked through the posts yet but the FAQ page is downright deceptive, claiming the files are temporary and that you can remove the uniform at any time while (((conveniently forgetting))) to mention the failsafes intended to stop people from actually doing this.

>They didn't hit many of the threads I was watching

I don't remember the full extent, but it was focused more on request threads than discussion threads and bad enough to get the first BO's attention. This was a man who'd basically given up on the board and wouldn't delete duplicate threads anymore outside a short burst of activity later to keep others from claiming the board.

If my memory serves me right (I'd have to check the archives to be sure), the early (((B4mb1))) threads also pulled the same "we are the board/none of the other threads matter" shit even when their presence was only weeks or months old.

>>59643

> claiming the files are temporary and that you can remove the uniform at any time while (((conveniently forgetting))) to mention the failsafes intended to stop people from actually doing this

Somehow I'm not surprised by this at all. Actually, I recall discussion about that in one of the (((B4mb1))) threads - the files themselves use that deception, specifically stating that you'll accept the uniform suggestions because there's a way out, but that "way out" gets harder to use every time - which, of course, is not mentioned when you're being told to accept the uniform triggers.

> it was focused more on request threads than discussion threads

That would be why I didn't see the spam-wave, then. I really come here for discussion, so I tend to ignore most of the request threads unless I stumble across a discussion in one.

> If my memory serves me right (I'd have to check the archives to be sure),

I have the same uncertainty but remember differently.

> the early (((B4mb1))) threads also pulled the same "we are the board/none of the other threads matter" shit even when their presence was only weeks or months old.

I don't remember any of that in the (((B4mb1))) threads themselves. I lurked all of them because the entire topic just screamed "no way this ends well" to me - and that meant LULZ!

I even posted in some of them, as I previously admitted.

I wouldn't be able to speak about the actions of the (((B4mb1)))s in other threads, though.

>>59641

>>59643

>>59644

(((B4mb1))) was mentioned in one or two recommendation threads, which peeved someone enough for them to start making obnoxious falseflag (((B4mb1)))posts. There was an open confrontation in the main (((B4mb1))) thread.

I think there is some serious hate for (((B4mb1))) because it doesn't have many competitors and many hate the bimbo fetish. "Talk about anything fucking else," they think. I suppose I can't blame them, but a ban wouldn't go amiss when they start shitting things up.

I also remember the pajeetsite incident. You'd think it would be the (((B4mb1))) fans that were braindead enough to take copypasted back pain claims seriously, and blame the (((B4mb1))) creator, but no. Some people don't need hypnosis for that.

There are a lot of complaints about spamming ITT (and some very broad definitions of spam) but (((B4mb1))) threads are regularly shat in. Discussions about politics and arguments about TTS which don't exactly strike me as being from (((B4mb1))) fans - but there they are in the (((B4mb1))) thread. Maybe we should banish those spammers to a general thread? But wait, there's no way to tar spammers with the same brush, because they can ruin anything in any way.

It turns out that a completely unmoderated board is just a bit of a shitfest, and that it goes both ways. Blaming one fetish is nonsense, as if the internet would stop being the internet if one part were cooped up in a general thread.

Suicideanon was someone else, I think. At least he had a sense of humour.

>>59645

I think I may have to clarify what a pajeetsite is.

It's called domain poaching. You pick a topic that is popular on search engines, then snatch the best domains for it, then cram them full of advertisements and make money from views and clicks generated by people mistakenly visiting that website instead of the real content. Whoever made that website has a hundred more just like it at minimum. Nobody paid that Pajeet so much as a cent to "write" that website. He didn't write it. He copypasted content, probably in violation of copyright, and replaced one or two words with words related to the subject whose clicks he was poaching. That website has probably earned enough for twenty bottles of body spray and a madras shirt by now, which is good enough for him.

But anyway, it's all an evil plan by (((B4mb1))) Prime to poison the water supply. Do some research.

>>59646

My last line was excessive.

There's some friction ITT, but we are at least having a rational discussion.

>>59643

Just a quick note that (((B4mb1))) and SB are in no way the only ones producing potentially "evil" files. Hypnoqueen is famous for a file in which she takes ever lasting control of the mind of the listener and plenty of other tists commonly put addiction, worshipping and file buying suggestions in their files.

I always recommend to analyze the files one's about to listen to beforehand at least on a surface level.

Also at least in the (((B4mb1))) threads I recall people advising others to stay away from certain files when starting to listen.

Furthermore your screenshot is wrong about some triggers and ignores others completely. The most "evil" (((B4mb1))) files I know of are Takeover (which is definitely more than conditioning), Oblivion, Addiction and Protection, three of which already have names that should make people worry about what they're going to listen to (some even have warnings on the blogspot). Most of the other files are just dumbing down, body transformation, bimbo behavior/appreciation and HFO files.

>>59645

>it was a false flag, I swear

You guys always pull this shit. Whenever a non-sissy/feminizationfag does something stupid their actions are taken at face value, but when a sissy or feminizationfag does something retarded (like spamming) you always blame someone else or insist it's a false flag. Is it really that hard to believe people under the influence of bimbofication files can make stupid decisions?

You can't blame the state of (((B4mb1))) threads on false flaggers either. Board owners and volunteers can read an IP hash's post history (it hasn't worked that well lately since 8chan started aggressively generating new hashes and IDs) and I quickly discovered that the people arguing over dumb shit in (((B4mb1))) threads were the people discussing the files earlier. Why were their posts and arguments so awful? It's simple, they're bimbos. Stupid people aren't immune to politics.

>There are a lot of complaints about spamming ITT (and some very broad definitions of spam)

I don't know what universe you come from, but in this one shilling stuff in multiple unrelated threads is called spam and websites don't take very kindly to it.

>I think there is some serious hate for (((B4mb1))) because it doesn't have many competitors and many hate the bimbo fetish.

No. There are other bimbofication-focused hypnotists out there and their threads went by without even a quarter of the drama and cancer (((B4mb1)))fags spew out regularly. Stop blaming everyone else for problems specific to your threads and try some introspection for once.

>>59668

Either they're subverted bimbos (the files worked) or aggressive political junkies (…they listened to the "be an angry, opinionated crank" file?)

They can't really be both. As an angry, opinionated crank, I know this all too well.

Good job on the wordfilter, by the way; it makes me reluctant to type the word (((B4mb1))). But why not go further? You know you want to.

But anyway, if we're seriously talking about the influence of the files on the (((B4mb1)))s, then you should probably know that the files discourage any abstract thought and definitely any male ego, of which any internet argument is full. The files are not the direct cause of any of this.

Although they are the direct cause of the envy of people who listen to non-modular 25 minute induction, 20 minutes of content files that have a fanbase of a dozen. Why can't my fetish get that kind of development? Who do these people think they are?

I wouldn't dream of accusing you of being a troll or having a personal vendetta, but some people on the internet are trolls with an axe to grind. As a mod, you might be interested to learn that trolling involves making disingenuous comments to cause trouble and create controversy.

>>59643

>I haven't looked through the posts yet but the FAQ page is downright deceptive, claiming the files are temporary and that you can remove the uniform at any time while (((conveniently forgetting))) to mention the failsafes intended to stop people from actually doing this.

That would be a problem if the whole (((B4mb1))) thing didn't seem like fake hypnotism. The (((B4mb1))) fans in this thread (and prior ones) are clearly just fetishists using the files to wank and not people who have literally become (((B4mb1))) through conditioning.

>>59675

>who have literally become (((B4mb1)))

That seems like a long shot for a bunch of hypnosis files released on the internet.

I have seen some basic temporary hypnotic gender transformations done in a personal session and don't even know if I can believe those. Maybe I'm just very bad at trancing but I think that any posthypnotic suggestions are a pretty high bar to set as a goal to achieve by a generic hypnosis file.

>>59645

> I also remember the pajeetsite incident. You'd think it would be the (((B4mb1))) fans that were braindead enough to take copypasted back pain claims seriously, and blame the (((B4mb1))) creator, but no. Some people don't need hypnosis for that.

Everyone knew the pasta'd chronic pain claims were bullshit - but we also know that people in chronic pain can be desperate and might just fall for it. It was extremely unethical marketing at the least.

And the "bimbo hypnosis for pain relief" bullshit wasn't on the pajeetsite itself, but on several link farms that pointed to the pajeetsite.

> (and some very broad definitions of spam)

Spamming, in brief, is posting about something in a promotional way in threads where those posts have no relation to the thread's topic. Even stretching "related" isn't spamming. Posting "(((B4mb1))) Sleep is teh bestest hypno EVAR" in threads that have nothing to do with (((B4mb1))) or bimbos is spamming.

>>59646

> You pick a topic that is popular on search engines

Somehow I don't think that (((B4mb1))) Sleep was ever all that popular. If that's pajeet's motivation, pajeet needs to learn to poo in the loo.

> Do some research.

You have no idea. I've done a lot of research on this. I'm still doing research.

>>59659

> Hypnoqueen is famous for a file in which she takes ever lasting control of the mind of the listener

Are her minions shilling that file all over the board?

> and plenty of other tists commonly put addiction, worshipping and file buying suggestions in their files.

I seem to recall a certain hypnowhale with some comically bad suggestions in some of her files. Again, we don't have a horde of bad hypno "fans" running around on the board and it certainly wasn't a minion of "Hypnoqueen" or the hypnowhale that torched the board. We do have a transfag problem.

>>59668

> Is it really that hard to believe people under the influence of bimbofication files can make stupid decisions?

Depends. Are we evaluating that while under the influence of bimbofication files?

>>59675

> That would be a problem if the whole (((B4mb1))) thing didn't seem like fake hypnotism.

I'm not so sure about that. (((B4mb1))) Prime misses some major points - the files would probably be more effective if he had done a bit more research and I'm not going to say what he's getting wrong because I don't want those files to be more effective.

> The (((B4mb1))) fans in this thread (and prior ones) are clearly just fetishists using the files to wank and not people who have literally become (((B4mb1))) through conditioning.

That's only because the people suggestible enough to literally become (((B4mb1))) aren't able to use computers anymore. They're too busy sucking cock, because that's all that (((B4mb1))) does.

>>59644

If you are veteran that has experienced an airraid in which you lost your friend. The sound of a plane going close overhead may "trigger" certain responses.

The responses being scaled from feeling a bit uneasy to reliving the whole event in person. The mechanics behind this in the brain is similar to how we perceive suggestibility in hypnosis. It's nothing more than how deep certain new events cause a knot of synapses and routes versus the strength of the current routes we call the subconsious or ego.

If the traumatic event is much stronger than the default connections, the persons loses his understanding of surroundings and perceives the event like he was as a soldier all over again. Entranced he will go through the experience not even reckonising family or friends.

In the head this is nothing more though, than signals having a preferred state of flow through the channels that offer less resistance. And the only reason it does this is because trauma causes stronger connections.

Not every soldier will go bannanes after 1 air-raid while it's a considerable event.

One thing to note here is that chemically, sexual fanatasies or real sexual acts. Do not create such strong memories.

Even though we are not looking for a reliving traumatic events the part of losing control in a similar manner to our fanatasies is being heavily fetishised here.

With hypnosis you do not create knots or real experiences. You create small ( almost insignificant ) connections between synapses of fantasy based experiences. Even if you are suggestibel, the growth and real events caused by input in daily life by yourself and others will greatly outweigh the hypnosis sessions. Even if you are in a heightened state of suggestibility aka deep trance, the moment you stop listening the effects will subside eventually.

In this board a lot of people talk about what is moral and what is not. So hypnosis is suddenly able to trick you to becoming a full time bimbo. And at the same time these people say people are larping becoming dumber.

First off there is no such thing as larping in hypnosis.

Either you follow your suggestions or you don't. Secondly unless you make actual changes hypnosis alone won't do much.

If you want suggestions to hit harder you need a deeper state of trance. Rather than 1 suggestion you might need several suggestions helping each other. If that still isn't enough you need to follow through on suggestions whether you feel compelled to do em or not. Just to create a automatic response that you were looking for. The end-game a trance like state ( like sometimes when driving a car ) going through the set of suggestions and triggers given. The only thing you are trying to achieve is a stronger state given by conditioning than your normal ego can offer.

If you don't larp for example. Everytime you hear your trigger to do "a", but do your own thing "b" instead. You are only conditioning yourself to do b. After which you will conclude..hey this hypnosis doesn't work.

If you add all these things toghether it almost sounds like you are altering your own mind. Exactly. That's where the claim comes from that hypnosis is just self-hypnosis. That also means that it can't be immoral by definition. You are doing it to yourself.

That makes bami only a good series( and tasty snack when fried). Because it has enough material to work with. It panders the subconsious with escapes, it corroses those escapes so it still gives that sensation of being controlled. But what it does best is throw a hundred triggers at you so that once you start following the suggestions you can web yourself into another persona. Which is the fantasy.

But it's not an air-raid or prison torture session. Eventually it will subside.

>>59397

>>59372

Just to clarify, it's not that that this is not a political board but that /leftypol/ is actively trying to stir the pot like /intl/ does back in the day, thank you very much for stopping them.

>>59375

Check >>>/pol/13200498 (yes even /pol/ are trying to do alpha male hypnosis, but keep what is /pol/ contained within /pol/ please)

#NeutralityMatters

why was my thread deleted? it was just requesting a file

>>60502

Which thread? It may have been a duplicate.

>>58561

>>60506

Could you make >>>/hydrus/ a recommended board? You know, for sorting files

I just want to say I hate that fat bald fuck primal almost as much as I hate steve steele.

>>60713

well this was all an enjoyable read

seems like the splinter board is dormant, posting here is looking pretty normal

status quo seems ok for everyone

board is now flooded with tranny shit again. can't they go and make their own degenerate sub?

>>61082

Just hide the threads and do your thing. Nothing prevents you from making a great straight hypnosis thread for whichever tist or topic you like. Maybe even explicitly exclude stuff you aren't interested in.

>>61144

Wow, that's really stupid. Even more so since that post is about the most accurate assessment of the situation with patreon. And this is coming from someone advocating for keeping certain tists on this board.

Now I understand a lot better why even on boards with much more mods and overall activity it sometimes takes hours for some off topic or duplicate threads to be deleted.

>>61146

In my experience same as the last BO's, this board's reports are never used for duplicate threads and only rarely for spam. Most reports are either like that screencap or blank reports of random threads.

>>61147

I stopped reporting duplicate threads when nothing happened after the previous BO got lost repeatedly. You also seem to notice duplicate threads fairly reliably.

Do you even still need them to be reported or would that just mean more work dealing with the reports?

>>61148

It would help, actually. Sometimes duplicates get overlooked if they're pushed off the front page or the names are written strangely.