/hgg/ - Hentai Games General

Not 100% about a lewd game specifically, but I have this idea in mind for a 2d puzzle platformer with lewd elements, specifically based on the idea of the Lost Vikings. 4 Monstergirls (Neko, Harpy, Holstaur, Kitsune) each with special abilities (Climbing/Crawling, Flying, Stronk and magic) that the player would control one at a time to reach the objective. Any ideas what would be a good engine to make the game in?

>>322376

literally any you're good at

if you know unity (or c#), use unity

if you know godot (or c#,c++ and friends), use godot

as simple as that

Is this your first game project? If so, see http://tools.aggydaggy.com/engines.html

>>322380

I'm trying out Unity, although I have no knowledge of C#, only C++ and Java. I'll take a look at Godot and that link you sent me, thank you!

>>322387

Personally, I'd be fine with whichever one makes it more likely that you end up actually making something playable.

However, Multiplayer can go fuck itself. If I wanted to fucking ERP with some rando, I sure as fuck wouldn't be here and I would also most likely own a fucking fursuit.

>>322390

>I'd be fine with whichever one makes it more likely that you end up actually making something playable.

that is why I am asking here, I just do not know which has more appeal and will interest more people, as one of the great forces of creation® is people asking you to do something their preffered way

I'm also indecissive as fuck, and this is a major choice,as I most probably won't be able to move code from one data model to another

>However, Multiplayer can go fuck itself. If I wanted to fucking ERP with some rando, I sure as fuck wouldn't be here and I would also most likely own a fucking fursuit.

point taken, althrough I am asking about it because I've seen somebody around here say something about multiplayer lewds

What if the communication was limited as though you couldn't tell a human apart from hard!ai?

actually why bother with multiplayer then

>>322387

> memory issues

Unless we're talking multiple gigabytes there's no need to worry about that. You can safely assume every modern PC to have at least 2gb ram available.

>>322387

bump, as I would really appreciate any input and opinions on the matter, the sooner I get to work on most basic systems the better

>>322387

>>WAY faster development speed

If this is true then choose this but why? Also why is the gameplay depends on those two methods of world generation?

>higher memory usage

Forget about focusing on irrelevant things.

>>322610

>Forget about focusing on irrelevant things.

I have some experience with voxel stuff and things could quickly get out of hand

>If this is true then choose this but why? Also why is the gameplay depends on those two methods of world generation?

not world generation, but the way the world is stored, and as such it would be all nice for players to be put in a familliar environment, also building, destroying and other interactions would be very different, so some differences in gameplay

>If this is true then choose this but why?

easier to code, way simplier for me

but then what about quality vs quantity (speed)?

>>322611

>I have some experience with voxel stuff and things could quickly get out of hand

You are doing something wrong then. Which engine are you using?

>easier to code, way simplier for me

You mean it's easier because of the gameplay? Regardless you are talking about two different games so decide which one do you want to make first based on which one you have more fun with making then decide the "world style".

>>322613

>You are doing something wrong then. Which engine are you using?

mainly Unity because its relatively easy to prototype things

language-wise, aktionskript -> js > c#, currently doing lots of C work

not really doing something wrong, just too much and too fat data

more than 500mb memory usage is "a lot" for me

>You mean it's easier because of the gameplay?

no, it's easier because of coding

I do a lot of things backwards, like mechanics-driven gameplay instead of gameplay-driven mechanics, which is why I am deciding on things like this now

>>322617

>500mb memory

Irrelevant.

>too much and too fat data

What exactly? I have hard time believing this can't be done better.

Regardless go with the option which makes development faster.

>>322622

>Irrelevant

>he doesnt run his porn games on a toaster

shameful

>go with the option which makes development faster

I have hard time picking, so I would rather somebody do the choice for me

>What exactly?

last project was pcg 64x64km volumetric terrain with structures and unlimited height, had to go to some lengths to fit an acceptable amount of data in memory at runtime

the accuracy was 0.5m, also pregenerated so no runtime generation

>>322387

Depends on the kind of game you intend to make, what gameplay, what view you intend to use and how you will present the lewd part.

>>322387

Do voxels but make them pretty thin as to look as natural at your heightlet method.

>>322626

I know about the premature optimization specially with regards to memory usage, but really… it's not something you should concern yourself with unless you are targetting toasters for reals. You're probably doing this as a hobby, so you can optimize when you feel like it and stuff, but 500mb memory is far too low. I use a smart toaster from 2011 and I currently have 6gb free. I don't even remember the last time I saw notebooks being sold with less than 4gb memory.

You should wait until the game is closer to how it should end up before you worry about these kinds of things. Maybe you're worrying about memory, but what will have toasters screaming is the 3d itself - a lot of 3d h-games run bad on anything that isn't the best GPU available on the market, due to the "artist" using every single shader possible to hide the fact that their art is shit, on top of models with no optimization whatsoever.

But like the other anon said, 500mb memory usage is irrelevant unless you're targeting literal toasters, and if you were targeting literal toasters you'd probably want to drop the 3d entirely as well. I know that when developing as a hobby we feel like we should optimize every single thing, it's part of the fun, but if you do this with everything you will never move forward. Try to stick to certain goals. For instance, on my project I want the turn processing (heaviest part of my game) to finish processing a turn in less than 150ms even on smartphones (currently sitting at ~40ms on phones and < 10ms on desktops). I didn't optimize the turn processing fully because it's too soon to do that, but I kept a list of annoying optimizations that can be done later. You could perhaps do the same to scratch your itch for the memory usage, just write down what can be done to improve it and try to make the game work with future changes going in that direction, so that if push comes to shove you don't have to rewrite the whole thing to optimize it.

>>322882

Sure it does, you don't want every single game to be twine shit, do you?

>>322884

your c# and c++ shit is no different from twine shit

guess why?

because you have no art

>>322885

>because you have no art

not me, but >>322883

not the case here

>I know about the premature optimization specially with regards to memory usage, but really…

I like keeping things relatively light

lilithsthrone is 500mb at runtime, and is slow at times, and its a fucking text game

maybe I should rewrite what I meant, that is, about the memory usage

It just rubs me the wrong way, there is nothing objectively wrong about it, but there is this hidden fear of large data

Im scared

>>322765

>Do voxels but make them pretty thin as to look as natural at your heightlet method.

will have a visualization for a "mixed" method later today

>>322648

>how you will present the lewd part

a bit of an "implicit" thing, as the best things are in the mind of the beholder

also 3d models + some interactive text smut, hard to explain without seeing things

>>322908

>lilithsthrone is 500mb at runtime, and is slow at times

that isn't slow because it's 500mb, this isn't how things work if your memory isn't capped it won't slow down and when some garbage code is running it can pump it up for a short period but regardless the base 500mb is not an issue so just ignore it

>>322908

>also 3d models + some interactive text smut, hard to explain without seeing things

Are you using what you describe for gameplay?

>Voxel

>can dig, build, design freely, easier terrain manipulation for player/enemies

>Heighlet

>top-down adventuring game with a party and tactics, go and roam the plains, rape everything you can see

Those are usually different gameplay types so which one are you using? Deciding which one of those features you want in the game is usually the basis for the decision not if one uses 500mb more or less.

>>322914

I am aware of that, but that was my response to the "language" argument

>Are you using what you describe for gameplay?

yes, and smut

>Those are usually different gameplay types so which one are you using?

not different, just "oriented", as both are essentially rpg, with group management and dynamic environment

>not if one uses 500mb more or less

that was not the point, actually just forget that I said anything about it

If worse comes to worse and you're using an engine, why not just buy someone' else voxel solution on the marketplace ?

>>322908

If you're using the amount of memory you need to use, there's nothing wrong with it. For instance, I decided not to use Enigma VB on my project, because all it does is make the files neat, but it multiplies the memory usage about 6 times. In this case, the benefits don't outweight the negatives.

> lilithsthrone is 500mb at runtime, and is slow at times, and its a fucking text game

In general, text games run slowly either because 1) They use a suboptimize environment to develop it (Twine, Inform, etc); or 2) The dev doesn't actually know how to code. Usually, it's both (as seen by the multiple Twine games that also run like dogshit). Generally, these makers are meant for very simple games, so they are "optimized" for games like those, and making anything else with them will suffer.

Take Trap Quest for instance. The game runs like dogshit. Does it have to run like dogshit? It doesn't do anything particularly amazing. Inform under Git can handle 30 FPS animations with multiple images, and that's mostly a limitation of the timer, so it might even be possible to go over this with a lower-level implementation, so the images are not what causes it to lock for a few seconds every action. Hyperlinking appears to have no effect on how fast Git runs games, either. The only reasonable motives for the slow down are using some part of Inform in the wrong way. My own guess is that the synonyms are not being set up correctly, because the way Inform works is that if you don't set those the right way, every time you do anything, Inform will check every. single. object. for synonyms, even the ones that are not visible, and while that's not a problem with 50 objects, once you get to multiple thousand objects with many synonyms each, things get messy.

So I'd say set up a goal for yourself. What is the kind of machine you want to run this game? A notebook with 2gb ram? It's best if you own the target hardware, but you can get by through VMs, too. Also, while 500mb memory usage is indeed low, it's important to notice if this scales. Whenever I make something that I think might cause issues later on, I just spawn hundreds of them at once and check memory/process time to see how well it scales. Problems might not be noticeable with small numbers (Trap Quest was pretty fast in the early days), but they become apparent if you stress test them.

>>323032

I honestly never understood why people want management games so much. You're putting so much work into creating this 3D environment with morphing bodies and yet by the nature of the game, you won't fucking care 97% of the time.

A management game is a game in which you manage MONEY and RESOURCES to get more MONEY and RESOURCES. Notice the lack of "sex and women" there? Because they're not of any importance in such a game. So now you've put in all this work and the only ones who are going to notice are the people who will most likely just hack the game to get unlimited money and resources to just get what they want so they can see the few scenes that are in the game, have a quick wank, then drop the rest of the game. The rest who does play the game will simply skip over all of the sexual stuff because "Who the fuck cares, I got money to make, fucking get me back to the money making.".

To them all that matters are numbers. Just take a look at the examples you've given.

Free Cities. They're more interested in creating a fucking personal military and an orbital space station that can obliterate opposing Archologies. They also want to create as much weird shit as possible, but the actual lewd stuff is barely even a thing so you end up skipping it all the damn time.

PortalsOfPhereon. "How do I breed/get the best stats?" Again, the numbers are the most important thing here. The girls/futas are there to make money or fight for you. Then there are a few lewds with the NPC's, but that's probably less than a tenth of the game.

SlaveMatrix. These guys pretty much don't give a shit about the lewds anymore. They're jerking off to eugenics more than lewds at this point.

Want my suggestion? You've got what LifePlay, by Vinfamy, lacks. Proper 3D models. So you can probably just rip off LifePlay and try and make a Sims-type game.

If I'm wrong in any of my assumptions, then please, do explain to me what I'm wrong about and why you/anyone else finds management games with lewds to be the best thing.

>>323144

Because they are called hentai games they have to have both.

>>323161

>a hentai AND a game

this clears up a lot

>>323144

People who only care about money and resources go play Victoria 2 or Dwarf Fortress or someshit. Clearly the whole point of such hentai games is that you have both, and whether you want both or not, and in which proportion, is another question.

>>323144

What I like about spreadsheet games is the idea that your character can go to the extremes and ultimately serve for one purpose that she does best.

Example scenario:

>buy a girl

>decide her best features

>push them to the extreme (e.g huge tits)

>she increases your production greatly and becomes valuable

>get attached and decide to care or be merciful

I'm sure this scenario ticks a few fetishes which are obviously not shared by everyone. Personally, this is one reason why I like them.

Although most of them could use more visual feedback that show what they turned into or are going through, which makes it actually fapable.

On another note, PoP has actually struck a fair balance between management and having the number game translate into actual gameplay, but has basically only one lewd pic per character.

About your LifePlay suggestion (thanks btw), it's got some unique elements and hard work put into. And yes, he'd actually be better off with 2D renders for now.

But as you can guess, my interest is a management game which plays out the strengths of having a 3D-model. For example, being able to actually gauge the price of a girl by just looking at her sizes and features.

>>323204

I do hope you plan on slapping a better shader and some decent lighting on those girls. Good 3d models mean nothing if they end up looking like shit; also the engine for that matter.

>>323219

It will be changed and I understand the importance.

>>323032

Did you redo all the bones one by one from daz to ue4 skeleton ?

The clothes adapt automaticaly or you have to redo them all ?

Also I cant make anything good with the ui on ue4, good luck with that

>>323400

I don't use the ue4 skeleton, it's the g8 skeleton from daz.

The clothes also use the g8 skeleton and work with the morphs automatically. I just export the clothes with the g8f to 3ds and delete g8f but keep the skeleton for the clothes.

Ui wise, ue4 has some great widgets out of the box, much like windows forms. Scrollboxes are also way easier than those in Unity.

>>323487

>I don't use the ue4 skeleton

no animation then ? or you use those from daz as well ?

and the widgets are imo absolutly unsellable, hope your ui is a wip :/

anyway, looking forward to see more of your game. Godspeed anon

>>323501

Animations from daz, mixamo(mainly movement) and handmade. There are few daz animations, but tons of reference poses to start you off with.

>widgets are imo absolutly unsellable

Yes.

>>323032

I have experimented with a similar approach. Char, hair, clothes and morphs from Daz to Ue4.

Hair were usually one of the bigger issue as most of them didn't work well/look nice.

Poly count can be for some store items really high as they aren't optimized. Shoes I tested came with ~400k. So it's probably a good idea to keep an eye on the poly count..

Very extreme morphs would also create lighting issues for me but for normal ones to make custom characters it did work well.

>>323501

If you need Ue4 based animations it's possible to retarget them in Ue4. I have seen comments who claim this works well enough for them. It didn't for me but maybe worth testing it if you use it for simple animations.

>>323554

>Hair were usually one of the bigger issue as most of them didn't work well/look nice.

Can confirm, most hairs below 100k look bad. They do work/fit okay.

>Shoes I tested came with ~400k.

Yet to find a 400k shoe.

I'm wondering, is there an elegant way to make heels work for animations which require interacting characters to be on the same height? Or animations with height morphs for that matter…

Any idea guys in the place? Share your game ideas. I have a game structure but i want more content. Suggest things to add. I will adapt them to fit.

No fetish is off limit, but you will be judged.

>>323852

>Is posible

anything is

>>323980

Some AI made by amateurs that work regular, as I see the main problem is the sexual interactions, between responses base on a huge amount of variables between interactions. But well, is a good concept that nobody try at least.

>>323852

It's been made. It was also shit. Think this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnzlbyTZsQY

Except trying to be sexy

>>323852

There is no possible way that a computer could believably talk dirty. Hell, most actual people can't do it without sounding funnier than they are sexy.

>>323852

>sample_

reee

so "lilith's throne"'s situation got me thinking

let's say I want to make a good game, AND get mad dosh off furries

what if I split content into packs, and also enable easy modding?

this way I could make all the vanilla stuff that I like myself, and let other people do the sick shit I would never look at or the "morally questionable" stuff, while keeping me clean

shit, I could even puppet a bit and make those 'content packs' pretending to be a different person

also, it would let players to really fine-tune their experience

is this a good idea?

>>324522

In terms of making money it's essential the pandering is part of the base game, just make it easily removable with modding etc.

Otherwise yeah, that's exactly how devs who make loli games from out of shitholes like australia get paid; they make the intended purpose of the game (pedoshit) a mod that they release as an 'unrelated' identity and make money from the normalfag version of the game.

>>324523

could you provide examples, please?

>>324522

As long as you are sufficiently careful that should work. The main thing is to make it look like you're "trying" to prevent the "unofficial" content from breaking certain moralistic guidelines, but use mechanisms that are easily defeated.

>>324547

>The main thing is to make it look like you're "trying" to prevent the "unofficial" content from breaking certain moralistic guidelines

wait what

why?

>>324547

You cant really be responsible for what other people do with your content. Only a massive shithole would go after you for something like that.

>>324551

Because of plausible deniability. That way it's more believable that this "third party mod" that happens to add certain content isn't the main dev sock puppeting.

>>324553

And how much of the world isn't a massive shithole?

>>322357

Experienced developer here, planning on writing a text based game - mostly because I like text better than images for lewd shit, also because I don't want to pay an artist since I have no interest in patreon or any of that shit.

My question is this - I haven't found any advanced frameworks for text based games. What I mean by "advanced" is something that takes care of the tedious shit saving/loading, UI styling/scaling, render loop, good template syntax, etc for me in a way that's actually flexible. For example, Twine breaks if you do any kind of multiple references to the same object. I'm very familiar with Twine, but I hate it. The other HTML/JS based tools are just as bad.

Most other frameworks I've seen are either entire simulated environments (which means SLOW/BLOATED) or have similar problems where I'll have to write custom serialization/parsing routines to load state correctly without something breaking which means extra work. I could write my own of course, but that's even more work since I'll also have to work out problems like UI scaling, styling, and other tedious bullshit.

I don't care about "simple" or "easy to learn" because I'm not a fucking moron, but I haven't found anything that seems like it actually meets my needs. I'm hoping someone on here knows about something I haven't found through googling because otherwise I'll have to write my own framework from scratch and I'm not especially looking forward to that.

I've also considered forking SugarCube and simply fixing the problems in it, but I'm not sure it's worth it since there are some really deep problems with how they designed the engine that I'm not sure I feel like fixing.

So, any suggestions, or am I stuck doing a fuckload of extra work just to make a decent game?

>>324558

Ren'Py, I guess? It's kinda crap in many ways, but it takes care of all the tedious shit and you can be very flexible with it if you know or are willing to learn some Python.

>>324558

How deeply into "game" you plan on going? Inform has good save systems that just save the whole state, but I'm not sure how that works with updates to the game code. Could search for the Live Maker the japanese tend to use, it seems to have built-in save system that works very well, iirc it does survive through updates, though it's still just a better-looking Ren'py.

It's hard to suggest without knowing what you intend to do. For instance, Ren'py will work fine with VNs with a lot of character-to-character dialogue, but it sucks as soon as you start adding longer texts. Meanwhile, Twine is amazing for long walls of text, but as soon as the player actually has to interact with something it's awful, which I'm guessing is at least one tick of your list of "really deep problems".

I don't think most text game tools are very evolved, so you'll probably end up having to make your own. Coders are often not writers and writers are often not coders, and neither of those tends to have artistic skills to design good interfaces. Most tools are meant for a specific kind of developer. Twine targets the pure-writer that just wants to write a story, maybe branching a bit here and there - not really for games, at most CYOAs. Ren'py and their ilk are made for VNs like the japanese always did, but those rely more on art than on the writing, which is also why the text is restricted to a tiny part of the screen. Inform is a good middle term, but it's also like 1980s tech - literally.

>>322882

I bet you also think that RPG Maker and Renpy games aren't looked down upon.

>>324577

I know Python and I'd rather gouge my eyes out than work with it. It's trash. If it weren't for the whole "python" thing, I'd have given Ren'py serious consideration though it's really only a partial fit at best.

>>324597

That sums up what I've found as well.

As you guessed, I have no interest in CYOA or VN style work - the game I've been designing for the past couple years is pretty complex/deep.

If it hadn't been written by idiots, Twine would be a good fit. All I really want is something to render text for me from templates (which is basically how I have used Twine in the past - all the heavy lifting is in pure JS, and I just use SugarCube to render the scene once I've done the data/state manipulation in the background), handle basic UI scaling/etc, and serialize/deserialize game state to persistent storage.

Twine can do templating okayish, and it's UI isn't utterly unusable, but it performs like shit and their idea of "Serializing" game state is basically JSON.stringify() which is a joke.

Thankfully, I do have the skillset to write my own. I can program well, I'm a fairly good writer, and I know how to do UI/UX though I absolutely hate doing it. I'll probably end up writing the parts I care about carefully, and then when it comes to the UI just having some unstyled table layout that gets the job done. Then if I actually release the game and someone else wants to help unfuck the UI, they can do that part since I'd really rather have my toenails ripped off than spend more than 30 minutes doing UI at a time.

Any of you guys ever hired someone to do 2D animation work like Live2D? What do people usually ask?

>>324558

To be fair, everything that isn't writing your own engine from the ground up in native C is looked down upon one way or another.

>>324878

Interesting, I'll have a look.

In some ways this looks a lot like the engine I started working on a while back. Mine works okay, but it's ugly and I'd need to refine it.

>>325187

In other words a bunch of faggots who have never actually done any programming.

I am planning on making a small game for a friend, that is starting to write professionaly, using one of his non published stories as a present for his birthday, but I would want some suggestions. What would be the best engine to make a game similar to LittleWitch Romanesque (Simulation VN) and for a game similar to Eiyuu Senki (Turn Based Strategy Game)?

>>325204

>In other words a bunch of faggots who have never actually done any programming.

Your cobbled, unpolished engine doesn't count.

>>325901

your nothing ever doesn't count

>>325908

I've shipped more times than you can sage.

>>324558

>Twine breaks if you do any kind of multiple references to the same object.

pretty sure thats an issue with most choices you have available, saving things to disk dumbly results in 2 seperate objcets instead of 1 shared object.

just need to store objects in some data structure and use keys/ids/strings as references to whatever instead.

>>325914

sure thing buddy, but did you also build it with your own C compiler?

>>325922

Did I mention C? Their posts don't scream "Experienced developer", just saying.

>>325901

The fact that you're taking offense to my arguing that anyone suggesting writing a text based game engine in C would be an inexperienced faggot means that you're both lying about having any coding experience and that you're one of the retards I would fire in about two days if I made the mistake of hiring you in the first place.

>>326058

>The fact that you're taking offense to my arguing that anyone suggesting writing a text based game engine in C would be an inexperienced faggot means that you're both lying about having any coding experience

You're both retarded but you're especially a poser faggot for thinking that C is a bad language to quickly write a game which requires an ncurses interface at most to play

>>326069

Who's going to go through the trouble to play a porn game on curses ?

>>326058

>taking offense to my arguing

I'm not the one who took "writing your own engine from the ground up in native C" literally. I'm quite sure that anon was suggesting that no engine is perfect, and unless it's written to run on bare metal for maximum performance, there will always be something to complain about. You essentially called yourself a faggot who has never done any programming.

>>325917

It's easy enough to extend JSON to decycle shit like that. There's lots of tools that already do it. The problem is that the guys developing stuff like Twine are too dim witted to use them.

>>326069

>C

>rapid deployment

>ncurses

Holy shit, where to even start?

>>326301

These pissants mean it quite literally, or something like it. Even your comment about "written to run on bare metal for maximum performance" shows exactly how little you know. If you've actually done any coding, you're clearly to inexperienced to have undergone your chrysalis phase, let alone completed it. And until you've done that, you don't count as anything.

>>326445

s/to/too/

A literal pissing match on h-game dev environments. noice.

>>326451

It only happens once a day!

>>326451

>implying this thread is good for anything else

How do you guys feel about RPG maker games?

I know it's generally looked down upon but since I'm using it to start my first game, I figured it's the easiest engine to use. I could move on to better engines once I get a handle on how game devving in general works.

At the very least, I can make the game look good (visually better than the standard stuff) because I'm an artist.

>>327598

As long as the game is good. And avoid the sign of low quality: standard assets.

>>327603

Is default tilesets but with fancy shaders/light effects acceptable?

>>327598

Nobody likes RPG maker, but it's hard to deny that some good games have been developed in it. Go ahead and use it if you think it'll work for you.

>>327606

Honestly most people aren't gonna care about the tileset much. I'd worry a lot more about character art, animation quality, and gameplay - oh, and decent characters. It's ever so much better if the characters are likeable or hateable or something than just generic bland RPG protag #1234523452

>>327598

Unless you are going to make an RPG, choose another engine.

>>327606

Jesus christ don't do those, they always look awful, and also make the games run like shit since RPG Maker is mostly single-threaded.

If you want to use any kind of maker, keep these in mind:

> The more you deviate from what the maker was created to make, the more reason you have to not use the maker at all

> RPG Maker was designed with Japanese in mind, that's why it has a tiny text box with no text alignment. This makes it terrible for any text-based games, and if you're going to bother fixing that might as well use something else entirely…

> RPG Maker, by its very nature, relies almost exclusively on the art assets you bring. So either get a good artist to make a ton of CGs, or don't even bother.

It would be easier to give you better suggestions if you gave any more info about the game you want to make other than "i can the draw!". Anyway, there are some easy engines that are carried almost exclusively by the quality of the art you put into them:

> Ren'py (Pure story and art)

> RPG Makers (Art with some bad gameplay and bad ways to convey story)

> Game Maker (The most freedom you'll get with makers, but you'll have to create the base for your game)

Is fingerpainting your only skill? If you can code you can probably use some of the actual-dev oriented frameworks that exist out there.

>>327656

>Game Maker

I don't know about that. It's mostly meant for action games, so unless your porn is real-time it's probably not a good choice.

>>328120

It's commonly used for action games, but it's actually a blank slate - it is whatever you make of it. I imagine it should also have a lot of community support with examples and such for pretty much anything. The "coding" can also be in GML (Game Maker Language) or Drag'n'Drop, which is kind of like RPG Maker's coding tbh, except a tad more powerful.

Is skillshare good for learning how to code?

>>328330

It really depends on how deeply you want to learn. You want to learn how to make things do the things they should the do? Just find something you want automated and brute force your way into making it exist, over time you start to understand how to code.

If you really want to be a good programmer, however, there's a bit more that you'd need to learn. H-devs greatest failure is not correctly defining scope, which is the first thing you should do when beginning a project. Second biggest failure h-devs make is not make code maintainable; the trick to making maintainable code is to always pretend like the person who's going to maintain it is a serial killer with anger issues who knows where you live, and the fear should make you adhere to standards that are Good Code™.

At its core, coding is about knowing logic and knowing a few magic words that vary language to language (nothing major, most of the time). But you really ought to have actual classes to avoid developing bad habits while you learn the easy bits. For instance, I still have some issues with making self-explanatory code due to creating the habit of being lazy and naming variables stuff like "a". That's a stupid mistake to make, but if I'm looking at a complex block I might lose 10 minutes or more just trying to to follow where all the "a" and "b" are going.

The best languages to learn with are those with strict typing, which means they are like strict teachers and will slap you for being dumb (their strictness coerces you into writing better code). Not sure what I'd recommend, though. C is ancient, Java has too much stuff attached to it that might make it hard to understand for beginners. Most popular languages are not strict because that makes them easier to get into, but that also makes them bad for someone just starting, as they drive you to create these bad habits. You can get an idea about coding logic by just using RPG Maker and the like, too: the blocks inside events in RPG Maker mimic coding, except it's drag'n'drop rather than writing.

>>328633

C is still the best possible tool for actually learning programming. It's not necessarily the best tool for actually doing projects in - that depends on the project - but if you want to actually understand what the fuck is happening when you do stuff, it's the only tool aside from ASM that can properly teach you.

On the other hand, you could get a degree in computer engineering and still be absolute shit at game programming.

>>328156

I'm well aware of that. I've used it for years and have written thousands of lines of GML. I've made quite a few games in it.

Trust me, it's not what you want to use if your game involves a lot of GUIs (ie most porn games). You CAN do it, but all the easiness of Game Maker is more oriented towards real-time action games, not turn based or GUI games. At that point you might as well just use something with more freedom (ie actual coding, unity, etc) OR use something based towards GUI/turn based games.

>>328715

>I personally enjoy SciFi and Cyberpunk

How thoroughly do you want to integrate sexuality into your world? How thoroughly do you want to integrate sexuality into your gameplay? How thoroughly are you willing to integrate your world into your depictions of sexuality?

Let's consider two examples: Iain Banks "Culture" series and Fenoxo's "Trials in Tainted Space" game. Both are sci-fi works in which wealth and technology allows humanoids to mutate their bodies according to their whims, experience altered states of mind, and (if they wish to do so) live lives of hedonistic sexual gratification.

The Culture novels push this stuff into the background, because the audience doesn't want to read about a sequence of sexual escapades. It's difficult for a sex scene to make full use of the setting. You *can* incorporate the setting into many other scenes (e.g. relativistic time dilation during a spaceship chase; wondrous materials being used to design impossible artifacts; telepathy being used in diplomatic negotiations; pew-pew lasers and jetpacks in a shootout). If you introduce high tech into sexuality then you quickly run into objections: "why am I even trying to fuck a sweaty, awkward, temperamental human instead of visiting the holodeck (or fucking my heavily-customized sexbot) (or trickling a few microvolts through my brain) (or snorting 5mg of Orgasmarin powder)?"

Fenoxo partially avoids this question by pushing the player character towards the uncivilized frontier (where fewer high-tech devices are available) and by incorporating sexual encounters into character development. The player character *could* just fuck their sexbot whenever they get horny … but they can't buy a sexbot until they've completed half of the game, and they need to fuck NPC_A in order to advance QUEST_B, so they'll probably fuck a lot of NPCs.

Your post suggests that you're planning to write a more serious game. Perhaps we could imagine a scenario in which the player character (accompanied by a love interest) performs a dangerous mission, learns surprising secrets, defeats fearsome foes, and then returns to base. At that point the characters celebrate their success (cue saxophone music). This scene makes sense in a fantasy setting (with slight complications re: disease and contraception). But if your setting includes many things (e.g. stimulants, psychedelics, entertainment) which are *better* than sex, then you'll constantly be forced to explain *why* your characters have ignored those superior options in order to perform a caveman ritual. Or you'll need to strain your creativity as you write scenes of drug-enhanced augmented-reality robot-assisted FutureSex (which may be confusing or un-arousing for your readers). Or you'll need to downplay the sex itself and focus on the emotional context (e.g. trust, dominance, insecurity, etc). Or you'll just need to ignore the setting for a few minutes so that your characters can fuck in a way that's relatable and appealing to 21st century readers.

>I need some inspiration.

Please give us some rough guidelines.

Do your people live in villages, or in cities, or on satellites, or in post-apocalyptic underground bunkers? Are we working with conventional genders, or have they been blurred by contact with extraterrestrials? Is natural reproduction still a thing or are babies born from gestation pods? Do people fuck outside their species for fun (and/or is crossbreeding possible)? Is face-to-face communication relevant, or is information exchange entirely technological? Does the protagonist fight primarily with his hands, or his tools, or his mind? What sort of things in this world are scarce enough (or desirable enough) to fight over? If your protagonist accomplishes his quest and gets everything that he wants, then how might he wish to spend the remainder of his life? Is lifespan/ageing even a meaningful concept in your world?

>>328715

>interesting lecture on world building, RPG rule books?

Hopefully some of the files from this >>>/v/ share thread folder might be of use.

https://mega.nz/#F!UBp3xDrK!MRcdOY9QFHx1XtA4aXIOCw

>>329128

Quite. Whatever the fuck you're showing there isn't even close if that's what you're asking.

>>329128

Small sprites can work if they don't look like gorilla toddlers

>>329128

janky as hell. is it animated?

>>329346

>>329379

It would be animated. This is just sort of a T-pose to figure out proportions and positions. VX combat battlers seemed to be about the size I wanted, so I was playing with them. I really don't like the head style, though.

I'm a writefag with some not-quite-shit coding, my current artfag is flaking before giving me anything so is anyone looking to draw sexy bimbos for a game as well as background and UI elements? Pay obviously will be a thing, though I dunno what specific pay rate would work so that is negotiable.

Questions or more info: Add me on discord ArcticFalcon #7464

>>329476

There's all kinds of things wrong with that sprite.

Anthophobia is probably the best example I can think of off the top of my head for how to do it right - at least in terms of art style and detail. Can't say much for the content though.

>>327598

It's very good at the thing it is meant to do which is create a certain type of RPG game.

I want to make a mount and blade clone except with the lewd as a first class citizen.

>>329079

>I saved your post.

>>329489

>It looks like a toddler

Any toddler raping games?

>>331209

You can probably use general game development books and procedures, just replace the parts that refer to the player having fun with the player having "fun".

>>332196

>Unplayable shit

No.

>>332262

Gross.

>>332196

link? looked like shit last i played but seems to have come along a big since then

>>332365

The newest alpha was released January this year.

How do people feel about a donationware model where you use patreon as a tip jar and the only benefit to being a patron is just having a credit name, not even earlier access to builds?

>>332394

Plenty of devs did that already and they get support, though probably less.

>>332394

enjoy your $50 per month

>>332398

>>332396

Whats the best way to do it then?

>>332484

Make a good game first worry about the rest after.

>>332487

I'm not the donationware anon, am new Dev looking for advice.

I'm working on a game now (hope it is good) but figured since the topic was brought up I'd get some preliminary advice. Obviously the project won't release for a while, I don't want to release a 0.0.1 shitfest, but the business model for a game is just as important as any other aspect and so should be looked into early along with everything else.

>>332490

>should be looked into early along with everything else

No. That was a serious answer, for solo indie devs ignore it until you have a playable game.

>>332534

He should plan ahead for it.

>>332536

People keep blaming bad marketing for their failures but I never seen a good game failing because of that. I did see people failing because they put their effort into marketing rather than making their game. Daydreaming like you are some big business is just a waste of time.

>>332540

>>332601

I agree that they should focus primarily on the game but you guys are not living in reality if you think marketing just takes care of itself

>>332718

Look at the most "successful" games in this area. This is not an area where marketing is being used - you just make your game and put it out there. I think the literal best sellers are around 10k sales (so ~100k revenue minus DLsite costs). The best patreons are around 2~6k a month - that's barely enough to cover ONE employee if you were a company.

If the porn game is successful seems to be dependent on the fetishes they include: if you include obscure fetishes your maximum sales amount is limited, but you're guaranteed to get sales even with a terrible game (because people with obscure fetishes often don't have other options to put their money on, so you have no competition). Furries are an odd case, they have a ton of games, but they also appear to have a ton of money, so targetting furries ALWAYS works. And if we're talking about patreon in specific, pandering for specific fetishes seems to be the best way of making money.

Then for DLsite and others… the better the game part is and the less common the genre you're doing is, the more money you end up getting. Platformers usually sell well, regardless of how good they are, simply because they're rare (and they'll remain rare forever, shit's hard to make). VNs and RPGs usually sell themselves through the quality and quantity of their art alone, though you can get a bit extra success with RPGs by creating your own systems which are good.

Indie porn game dev is multiple steps below normal indie game dev. It's mostly one guy in a basement doing it as a hobby, as opposed to a small group of people doing it as a job. The closest we have to marketing is that hw guy going to every forum, every thread and shitposting, but he's jew to the max and even tries to "sign up" other creators with himself, no idea what that even ends up meaning.

>>332921

>I stand by it, a good, unique game doesn't need marketing and will get around.

Slave Matrix is good and unique. The point-and-click "groping" gameplay is antiquated, but it's integrated with the bizarre monstergirl anatomy, the game's psychology variables, and the progression/economy system. The cross-breeding feature is very detailed and provides extensive re-playability. The game has sold 213 copies at $15. $3225 revenue.

Strive4Power offers a polished experience, but it contains few original ideas. The entire sex minigame was lifted from Era (as a replacement for an earlier sex minigame which was worse); the combat is bog-standard JRPG; slave psychology is a heavily streamlined version of JoNT (more playable, but less interesting). The game has 880 patrons and requires a minimum $5 pledge for early access to software. I'm too lazy to lookup DLsite or Patreon fees, so let's just use raw numbers. $4400 monthly revenue.

Maverik made a derivative game, promoted it on various porn-related forums, and maintains a social presence (via itch.io, discord, etc). Auto Eden made something special, posted it onto a crowded marketplace, and relied on word-of-mouth while he focused on extending and improving his game. Maverik earns more per month than Auto Eden has earned in total.

Please stop telling people that good games don't need advertising.

>>332960

>better jobs. especially now

Maybe this is getting off-topic but like what dude? I just got out of mobiledev after years and I'm a physical, emotional, and spiritual wreck. I take responsibility for that as much as the job I do, it was my choice to medicate the stress and the continuous blows to reasonable human dignity primarily with booze, but I am not ever going back to the tech sector as it exists now. 6k/month would be a significant paycut from what I was earning before but with the freedom to use my own ideas and work on my own schedule? That would be irreplaceable.

I agree it's really not much of a long-term career prospect but what exactly is anymore? I've watched dozens of competent people shit on, cut loose and replaced. You are not actually earning anything resembling loyalty, working for these people. It's literally just money and a credit on your resume, but once you get too many credits you're already too old and too expensive and for any given problem there is always a much worse and much cheaper alternative that can be done by Punjabis.

>>332950

Strive4Power is much better than Slave Matrix what is your point?

Hello, i want to start a project but i would like a little advice in regards of wich engine would be the best to do this with as little coding experience as possible

>I want to make a text based game

>i want to be able to display images and if possible make a nice UI

>The player would be moving north, east, south and west on a map

>I would like npcs to be able to move on said map and have different interactions with the player depending on where/when the player meets them

>i would like npcs to be able to remember the player and their previous interactions and build different relationships with the player

>i want an inventory and a character screen in wich i can place art and change it to display the PC's body and clothes (kind of like a paperdoll)

>i want objects the player has equiped or in their inventory to influence what actions the player can take and/or the interactions with the npcs and enviroment

>then i would just like some buttons for convenience, like one for looking around, one for taking an object, etc in case the player doesn't want to type

I have done some stuff before, but mostly worked on writing/art/UI so i'm not very experienced on making the actual game and i don't want to start working on an engine and finding out that it can't do what i want even though it's something simple

>>334836

Forgot to say that i'm doing a test on Quest right now, just writing stuff down and making some scenes work to get the hang of it

>>334836

>text based game

it's shit

I played once a (I think) flash game, where you just stuff a 2d girl with dildos and it distens her belly. It uses shitty physics for this. I can't find it anymore. I wanted to try to make a similar game in 3d anime character where you can stuff her womb or intestines with bendy toys.

First I thought I would make models with blender and use softbody physics, but it feels like it's not practical, it feels like it uses way too much resources and is glitchy.

Am I wrong and this is a good way to make the game or are there other methods which would be more suitable?

Why I want to make it 3d? the anal stuff wasn't that much fun in the 2d version because the intestines just stops after a short distance and in 3d it would be cool to see the belly morph depending on how much dildo/tentacle is inside.

>>334932

Its better to start with something like that if its a first project, better have something simple and achieveable than being overly ambitious and never bring able to finish it

>>332950

Slave Matrix is garbage.

The underlying idea is fine, but everything about the game is tedious trash. It includes little features like:

>contrived debt mechanic

just as boring this time as it was the last 100 times.

>piss fetish out of nowhere

fuck the nips. fuck them.

>orgasms destroy stamina

you're punished for fucking unless you're an edging fetishist. nice design, ace.

>wanking is better for building your own arousal than sex

relatable for deathgrip porn addicts I guess?

fucking retarded bullshit.

yes you can raise arousal higher with sex if you like carpal tunnel, but it's still fucking stupid

>horribly limited interactivity

you can only fuck or torture your slaves and only in one position.

>everything is grinding

the trap of slave trainers everywhere. click nipples a million times or whatever to max X stat.

use AHK to automate this so your hand doesn't go numb.

<congratulations you hit the frog 134512352345234234234523523452 times.

The only thing the game has going for it is the sheer complexity of the genetic system and how it expresses as physical attributes in the offspring.

that's pretty cool.

if only there was a real game wrapped around it instead of something that barely qualifies as an alpha level demo.

>>334932

>when niggers post

>>334836

>>334837

I was thinking about this, i have some experience with gamemaker, what about using that to make this?

>>334836

It seems you want to make a text-game like the older interactive fiction games. Inform 7 would mostly fit perfectly with what you want, given that it is pretty much updated Infocom, with the exception of:

> nice UI

That's pretty much unfeasible with Inform without some heavy use of ==MAGIC== . To achieve that you'd have to use the ancient scrolls to interact with the Virtual Machine on a lower level, otherwise you get bad results and even worse performance. Most of the low-level stuff interacting more directly with the VM is undocumented, so you're SOL if you're trying to get it to work and you're not involved with the development of the interpreters. The people working with the interpreters are nice and would love to help you, though.

Tbh, it seems like you want to add a ton of systems, that means you will have to do a ton of coding regardless of what you end up choosing, so you might as well just pick whatever has the most of the stuff you want ready to go. My suggestion: bring down requirements and make a simpler game to start with. Also choose what you want to focus on: story or game? If game, Inform > Twine, otherwise Twine > Inform. Also keep in mind that Inform is essentially the ancient language of the gods, twine is the new kid on the block… that means you might find more diverse help for Twine than Inform. Twine also runs without interpreters, which is a big plus.

>>335268

While you can make anything in GameMaker, this would be akin to reinventing the wheel. You'd have to teach it to print text, if you want it to parse commands you'd have to teach it that AND you'd have to teach it to receive those commands as well, you'd have to teach it buttons, etc… it would be an incredibly large amount of work.

So, if you really want to go with infocom-style I'd strongly recommend Inform, because it's literally the maintained infocom style. It should also have a ton of plugins you can add that do stuff for you. Otherwise go with Twine, but it's going to be hell to make the UI look decent while also making the game go at a nice pacing, twine is just not meant for real games.

If you're going to make it all from the ground up I'd suggest just going with clean HTML5/Javascript. That gives you access to everything HTML and so you don't have to worry that much about presentation. It also works on every platform without any extra work. This would require you actually know how to code, however.

>>335510

>doesn't want to make a VN, KN or dating sim

Well, the fuck you want to do? I mean is twine okay? I have no idea what you want to do, just what you don't want to do.

>>337077

neat

>>338527

You should've asked in either the begging thread or the "questions that don't deserve their own thread" thread.

>>340206

Is this a Mount and Blade mod or similar game? Looks nice so far.

Does anyone have any resources for sound effects or does it really matter?

>>340254

it doesn't

>>340394

They are just straight visual novels, they just happen to have a few variables that store some shit.

Also just read the EULA for these games. Tbh you can probably do whatever you want and no one will sue you over it, I don't see any moral issues around using a poser to make poses, but unless the EULA specifies you can do this, there are going to be legal issues. Now, it's a shitty porn game from overseas, they won't bother suing a random nobody over usage, so do whatever you want.

Not sure if I should bother making a game since my art is shit. On the other hand there are people raking in cash with what I would consider to be shitty to average art or just text and never ever updates. Is there any point making a game if I cant art?

>>340488

You already answered your question.

How much of our game do you think we should have done before releasing a demo? I was considering just uploading semi-monthly updates on it but i'm not sure if anyone would bother playing it this early on.

>>340541

Well it depends, post something so we can tell. If it has decent art then generally even very little content is accepted, if art is minimal then you need something that catches the interest of people like a specific fetish, if you don't have either then yeah wait.

>>340541

>How much of our game do you think we should have done before releasing a demo?

What's the genre?

Some games are more suitable than others for demos. A visual novel demo is arguably a waste of time - you're asking players to learn backstory and characters and become emotionally invested in them, but then you abruptly terminate the experience without a satisfying resolution. When you release the actual game, players will need to spend time replaying the original chapter(s) in order to access the new material, which is frustrating. If players are expected to repeat this process monthly, then you might alienate your early adopters. JRPGs often suffer similar problems, with dull content (character intros, backstory, fetch quests, exposition) being front-loaded in the early minutes. Action games can drop players into a mid-game mission for immediate excitement - but only if the game's controls and mechanics are simple enough to obviate a tutorial.

Your demo needs to engage players in some way. Maybe you've got great artwork which can be sprinkled throughout a few minutes of boring gameplay. Perhaps you've created interesting mechanics (movement system, ability combos, puzzle designs, etc) which can impress players even if they completely ignore your world and characters. You might have written an original and amazing story - but that doesn't mean shit unless you can deliver it in an interesting way (it you're asking me to read a multi-page text dump before I've seen any gameplay, then you fail as a game designer).

> i'm not sure if anyone would bother playing it this early on.

What do *you* actually want from the demo?

* interest check. You want to know how many players would potentially play and/or buy your game (in its *current* unfinished state). This feedback will help you to gauge how much more work is needed before the game is truly enjoyable for players.

* consumer-level feedback. You're committed to the core design of your game and its story, but you're willing to make minor adjustments (e.g. difficulty tuning, item drop rates, breast sizes) based on feedback.

* designer-level feedback. You're willing to make fundamental changes to your game (e.g. remove the combat system, add puzzle dungeons, rewrite the plot into a revenge story, swap the MC's gender) based on feedback.

* recruitment. The demo is intended to show off your talents, but the game cannot reach its final intended state without assistance. The demo will entice talented people to contact you and join your team.

* hype. You've already finalized the game design and your team is full. You just need time to complete the game. You're hoping to build/sustain enthusiasm by releasing incremental demos. Interested players will be invited to join your Discord, subscribe to your Twitter, and spread word-of-mouth.

* funding. You plan to release a few early demos, but you'll eventually limit access to crowdfunding donors only (in order to offset dev costs, commission custom artwork and music, pay library license fees, etc).

* content. Your game includes significant potential for user-generated content (e.g. level design, character customization, AI scripting, modding). You need users to tinker with these systems in order to test their limits, refine them, and verify that the custom content can be shared and remixed in the intended ways (e.g. MacOS-derived content can be imported onto an Android device).

Note: if you answer "all of these above" then you're dodging the question. The answer here should guide your demo-release strategy. If you want hype, then hold back until you have a polished demo available (and a scheduled release date). If you want designer-level feedback, then you should release a barely-working early demo with stolen/placeholder assets.

>>340574

tl;dr?

>>340574

Thank you for this! I admit there are a few boring scenes that i'll need to fix from text dumps so I probably will wait on releasing it. A reason why I wasn't so sure was because I wanted to create the scenes first and then work on art but I might just draw some sketches and put them as placeholders during the event.

What kinds of porn games are there, and what niches exist to be served? What scratches to be itched?

I’m thinking in terms of mechanics rather than fetishes, though no doubt they can be closely correlated – slave trainer games, for instance, are distinct in both regards.

I have a game that I started making just for kicks (I love modding, so I have an itch for making stuff). It is a RPG maker VX ACE game. I made bretty gud progress, intro and a big chunk of chapter 1 are mostly done, and then I stopped.

I'm now thinking of continuing and perhaps going patreon or something. Why?

Well, the company I work at is having a bad time, so I'm currently at half working hours and reduced pay, so not good. I have the time, faggots are making a killing being incompetent, lazy cunts.

Yeah, I know. PRG Maker a shit, but it works for me.

And Patreon also shit. I hate it when the developers make everything exclusive and have big donation options. I was thinking along the lines of patrons getting versions 1 week earlier and minimal patronage (1-5$)

Anyway, I wanted to ask - should I been bother? Is there a better platform than Patreon? How do I avoid getting nuked from it? (atm games has lesbian/yuri, futa and rape)

>>341078

FYI - here's the current "build"

http://www.mediafire.com/file/vprcebuionc1dbh/UC.rar/file

>>340602

If you can't read that you should never consider developing a game.

>>341036

>when you can't do faces

>>341036

I mean I like it but there is not much to comment when people just post a piece of art

I have a vague idea of a text-based game in which a heroine has to sneak around town naked, or bottomless or etc for some reason.

I have a sense that I want this to be a bit like the era games. That is, characters are a bundle of unchangeable and changeable traits, stats, skills etc that combine into a unique (or unique-feeling) entity who reacts differently to different situations. While some have special dialogue or unique traits, virtually all of them are subject to the player’s whims.

(I guess another way to describe this system would be “like CKII”.)

The issue is that I don’t really know how I’d go about brainstorming the actual meat and potatoes of the game design, and I don’t have a clear idea of how gameplay would function (or rather, I don’t know where I ought to start). I don’t even know if you’d play as the unfortunate lady, or as some kind of malevolent entity haunting her, or as some kind of malevolent entity haunting a specific part of town in which you’d toy with the lives of pedestrians walking through.

I need to have a clearer idea of where this concept will go before I end up stuffing all my conflicting fetishes into it and turning it into a bloated mess. Unfortunately I don’t know many resources out there for porn game design, which of course is why I ask here.

(Though, while typing this all out I’ve brainstormed quite a bit, like the idea of haunting a specific part of town instead of someone specific. So maybe I just need to blog about it some more.)

>>340574

thank you for your post, always interesting

do you work in the industry ?

>>341078

Patreon is most likely your best bet. I have personally searched for other platforms but all that are somewhat similar don't allow sexual content at all.

And even on Patreon there will most likely nuke you if they find out that you have one of these in your game: "bestiality, incest, sexual depiction of minors, and suggestive sexual violence".>>341078

>>342087

Right, for a game like that art is the main draw, writing just doesn't have to be terrible. Are you sure you want 3 characters for that type of game? You need to draw everything three times so the only point of that would be if each character had her own storyline (doesn't have to be too different) since the scenes have to be unique anyway since that is what takes up the most time. However if you want to constantly release updates people wont play with all 3 every patch, so it doesn't work well with that model. It could work if you have one main character picked but you can still access the scenes from the others as they become followers or you take control of them for a period of the game.

>>341975

>>suggestive sexual violence

Given how loosely that is defined, that is the biggest problem.

>>342087

>RPGMaker

>Wall of unskippable text

>Sketches

Western "games".

>>342128

Getting rid of 1 or 2 girls is probably for the best, I was having trouble making one of the characters so i'll probably remove her.

>>342146

That's MV. MV has a built-in text skip.

>>342141

I think that the best bet is not to advertise the "a rape" feature directly on Patreon.

There is a game on Patreon called "Harem Hotel" and it got temporarily banned because one of the characters looked too young. I only read that it was because of her outfit so I guess it was probably a school uniform…

I also guess that the author was stupid enough to share a screenshot of her directly on Patreon. I doubt that Patreon employees play those games.

>>342237

I believe people report them maybe with screenshots.

>>342408

Well this is a bit early in development so can't say too much about. I suppose you are aware of various bugs regarding camera positions, ui overlapping and all enemies having 0 troops. UI is also messy with the various styles, camera is too far away with only temporary zoom. Not fan of the heart popping up on capture. Too early to share it in my opinion, polish it and add sex. (unless I missed that)

>>342500

I was hoping to find some people who would be interested in joining to help with those aspects. Because I myself don't have the best eye for design I was hoping someone could help.

>>322380

What kind of fag uses an engine to build a game? You're supposed to make your whole game from scratch in c or c++.

>>342759

no surprise on those polls results.

have porn and make it not run like shit, wish most weg devs could figure it out.

>>342759

>Mindbreak in top 3

Im proud of /hgg/ today

>>342770

Yeah but stealth is bottom-last with only 1 vote. If people just want sex, why don't they play one of the other 1354353 Loli games from Japan with better art/animations/etc, instead of one built on kidnapping? The dungeon stuff is also very low too.

>>342864

looks like most people are interested in more non-con stuff.

>kissing in second

what?

>>342759

Lol for fuck's sake you STILL haven't finished this fucking loli rape sim? I remember this shit from AGDG like more 5 years ago

>>342910

Good loli rape simulation takes time anon. Simmer down.

>>342688

If you want something done you have to do it yourself. Just post on various dev threads, they will shit on your work so you know what to change, that is what I did.

>>342910

Well, as far as I know, it's also the only one around worth paying any attention to. The only other ones I've found are already rotting corpses long abandoned.

>>343025

Any link to the build? It's been a while since I've played.

>>343555

The January release can be found at >>>/agdg/33153

>>340394

The Studio manual has a line which specifically states that you're not allowed to use secondary content like videos or screenshots from the game. However, like >>340474 said, plenty of people have been doing this in the past and the chances of getting caught are pretty slim because they're on the other side of the world. It would be worse if you exported the models and used those.

A warning though: this might all change since everybody's beloved company Fakku has the western publishing rights to Illusion games now, so they might actually try to milk the Honey Select patreon scammers dry.

Mod creators are usually anonymous and I wouldn't recommend crediting a repack, since you're basically admitting piracy then.

On topic: I researched this because I've been planning a free management game in Godot for a while now with KK screenshots. I've spent some time fucking around with all the relevant features in the engine and in KK studio and am now probably ready to start prototyping.

>>342408

Where did you get the assets for this? I have an idea for a game that's superficially similar (mount-and-blade-esque), and summer break's almost here, so I'll have time to actually try devving– models for cute girls would greatly accelerate that.

hi everyone. i'm starting development on a game but i'm kinda stuck on the assets. i want to give the player customization of the characters' bodies and also support sex animations. i was looking into SVG but i'm pretty lost on how to implement what i want. are there any tools that can help me with this? 3D would be fine too if it's not ridiculously difficult.

>>345446

maybe decide what kind of game you're making before worrying about assets? i mean you haven't even decided if you're doing 2d or 3d yet!

>>345763

i have decided what kind of game. it would work for 2D or 3D graphics.

so would anyone be willing to help me instead of giving me "advice" i didnt ask for?

>>345446

so to be 100% clear this is what im asking about

>i want to give the player customization of the characters' bodies and also support sex animations.

simple. very fucking simple. that's what i want to know about. i didn't ask for advice on any other part of development.

>>345913

good luck sunshine

>>345934

why do you feel the need to be a fucking asshole?

>>346018

i have considered using sprites but my concern is it will severely limit the size differences of different body parts and cause scaling issues. i want to support rather extreme proportions if the player wants.

>>346192

You might want to look into Vector art then, that has pretty much infinite scaling

>>346269

that's what SVG is. so i was trying to figure out how to work with it beyond initially drawing the SVG image. I was wondering if there are any tools that make it easier to work with or maybe paperdoll tools that abstract away the SVG format entirely.

>>344468

>Where did you get the assets for this?

1/ various places 2/ made some

would you want to collab?

>>342759

You should work on roping yourself

>>351077

amazing book!

you might want to check out Godot btw

maybe this is what you're looking for:http://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/classes/class_popupmenu.html

>>351077

Like any of them?

Except very old Flash versions?

Anybody doing anything?

>>351077

Someone already mentioned Godot but you could also use Unity.

What do I do if I want to make a non-text based game but I can't draw for shit?

>>356913

You pay someone to do the art for you. Or you just make the game anyway, if ethos of darkness is relatively successful honestly anything can be.

>>358185

But will it have 254 different combinations of different ears, tails and so on that does absolutely nothing?

Either way, good luck to ya. Been so little new stuff lately I'll gladly take a rip-off of a knock-off of a copy-pasta of a clone.

>>358185

Current lilliths throne is pretty shit gameplay wise, keep it up

>>358185

>text-shit

doesn't count

>>358281

It's still more than what you did, faggot.

>>358259

It was never good. Combat overhaul did that even worse though.

What's a better concept?

> rpg / dating Sim based on Shonen Manga tropes

> an alien gives pc power to time stop and turn into tentacles as an apology for crash landing and killing the pc.

> each heroine has a Shonen Manga scenario (super power fighting, reverse isekai, magic/exorcism)

> becoming physically and emotionally more connected with PC gives heroines more power

> option to hook up with the rivals instead and go to rival path, or reconcile both sides

> farming sim

> pc enters an alternate world while napping in an abandoned bus stop

> he is trapped in a farming community of witches and monster girls

> local witch helps you open the door to your original world but procuring all the ingredients require at least a year

> harvest herbs, mushrooms and wild plants to help her open the door

>>358471

we are in the cliché nothing new boring seen a thousand times era

can't wait for the new wave to come

>>358471

Both will require an enourmous amount of art. Not sure if you'll be able to do it.

What's good approach to randomly generating height, weight and bust/waist/hip sizes? Any statistics I could use?

>>358643

>height, weight

height - ~100-+10 = weight

>bust/waist/hip sizes?

90/0,7*bust-+3/0,9*bust-+4

How do I create a paperdoll. Are there any convenient tools for that or do I need to make everything myself (if so any tips)?

>>359201

Second for this.

>>359957

>>359201

The idea behind a paper doll is that it's so simple you don't really need anything. There was a KISS maker back in the day, but do you really need to? You can just make a layered HTML5 thing with javascript and it should work just fine. You can just use jQuery or something to make everything draggable and gg

>>360071

I was asking about creating the art itself. If possible, I want to achieve similar look to free cities.

>>356827

Just making a generic gamemaker game

>>360209

>free cities

You talking about the pixel art, the renders, or the vector art? Each one will obviously benefit from different applications.

I think most Pixel Art applications are free. Vector art might be done with Inkscape, but I'm not entirely sure of that. I think there's a way of using customizable vectors in HTML5, as well, Queen of the Seas does that, which allows for a lot of variety with less assets.

>>360210

But why?

>>358643

I randomly generate height and a body size then pass that through a bmi formula to get the weight, with players selecting a body size in character creation and using the same formula to generate their weight. If you wanna steal the formula, here you go.

# BMI FORMULA FOR REFERENCE 703*(weight/(self.height*height))

@property

def weight(self):

bmi = int((self.body_size*2.5)+17)

if self.body_size > 4:

bmi += 2

conversion = bmi/703

return conversion*(self.real_height*self.real_height)

>>358643

>>356913

Finding an artist isn't hard. Just start coding and use placeholder assets for the art until you can trick some shleb into drawing for you based on "future split profits"

>>361105

You will be left with your shitty "game" with placeholders.

>>361216

I've seen plenty of OG indie games, fangames and mods, with very solid and original gameplay mechanics but with barebones programmer art, have random artists and graphicians draw for them sprites or models, free of charge.This only applies to normal games though.

H-games require the main developer to be an artist first rather than a coder, and if that isn't an option, then you better have good connections, a good friend who is good with the pencil or wads of dosh.

Unless you're doing textgame, then nobody gives a shit about your game because the market is saturated, and even good writing is often overlooked in exchange for fetishes and pandering to demographics.

Is bad performance something you actually need to worry about with a text based game? Besides Free Cities I've never come across a text game that ran poorly. CoC was given a lot of shit for its code and it didn't have terrible load times or lag.

>>361281

No but if the game ends up having issues then you need to fix whatever you fucked up.

>>361260

good job, you have the same speech as video games "critics" of 2005

>>361292

I don't think game critics from that era would ever talk about hentai games, even less know they exist. All the yellow journo fuckers in media have been incredibly prude until just barely recently.

Besides, how is my figure of speech "similar" to them? I'm actually rather curious since i never read anything on outlets, even less bought any magazine that wasn't a cheatsheet or guide for a game.

>>361312

>me so unique

Yeah, nah…

>>361312

The idea that indie devs need to be artists first and programmers second, and text games are a dead saturated market is straight from a pre-minecraft world. Doesn't mean it's not true though.

If you want to make your game as a fun side project, go nuts. Write whatever you want. Make a text game. Have programmer art. But if you want to make a living in the modern H-Game industry, you need two out of three qualities for your game: Good Art, Good Smut, or Good Gameplay. And if you don't cater to a target demographic with fat wads of cash literally falling out of their pockets, you'll never make a living. Why do you think all the western games that make fucktons of money are all full of "degenerate" fetishes by this board's standards? Those are the fetishes that make money, and they're trying to make a living.

I can code, but I can't draw. Any good guides for beginners? Particularly figures, obviously.

I installed new text to speech voices for windows but it crashes every renpy game (those new voices are so much series than default)

Can there be anything done to modify those games so it wont script crash every second?

>>361632

>indie devs

But all i said is that H-game devs have to be artists first due to the nature of the games. Regular indie devs shouldn't even have to worry about that as long as the core gameplay is solid, and it better be fucking solid because fuck playing shitty games.

To put it simple; I never alluded that "good art = good game" as this has never been the case, but rather that "good art = good h-game".

>but all those popular sprite games that rely on gameplay

The art is usually very good for 16-32bit sprite graphic aesthetics and the animations are top notch, which takes a damn good artistic foundation to pull off due to it being sprites. They would be successful even without the gameplay as sprite porn galleries.

Then again, a game of any kind that looks wonderful but plays like shit and runs like shit is bad all around. Gotta program it decently to make an h-game work. Coding is significantly faster (not neccesairly easier) to learn than drawing from scratch, hence the "artist first".

>>361814

>>/loomis/

>>358185

Dev here, is there something like JavaFX but for C++? I'm getting sick of Java honestly.

>>323852

>>324019

That video was made in 2011, Anon. Since then we had a LOT of improvement in computer science: we made deepfakes, computers beat human champion at go and we also had improvements in making chatting robots:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5t6K9iwcdw

Besides dialogues in eroge are focused only on sex. Making a program that can speak about a single subject is much easier than making a program that can speak about anything.

>>323852

This is a great question. I think there's no clear answer, but there's a hint:

You can't create procedural generation and back-fill it in with custom content. That works great for mediocre work, but it makes the custom content seem lack-luster. You'll always be playing catch-up.

Instead, you need to make intensive procedural generation that has enough variance to all the player to create emergent gameplay that's convincing. It won't be perfect, but it's the way forward, I think.

>>363911

Did you try Qt?

>>364415

that's from april bro, he's dead

much to the surprise of no one

>>364791

>>364792

>>364806

Wait, is Fiera Quest back?

>>364818

I forgot if you're the artist or the programmer, but which one are you and are you doing everything on your own now?

>>364791

lmao why would you post a vid of yourself pitching a tent

>>364978

>Taking inspiration from two of the better projects

>Nice art style

I mean, just from this it seems like an okay idea. Main question then is can you work with the guy?

>Own game

Well, can't give any useful advice if we don't know the other half of the story. What are you working on? is that a worthwhile enough project to turn down drawfag?

>>364818

Could you dump the art for it somewhere public?

>>364978

looks good

but for me the only thing really making a difference is the ui

I hope you will make something smooth to play with

>>365043

>chink

I didn't need this nostalgia feel

>>323852

late but you could check this out:

https://www.personalityforge.com/adult-chatbots.php?

>>365065

suck my dick

>>365043

Thanks. I've been a fan of your art since 2008.

>>365043

Glad to see you're still around and making the lifeweb-equivalent of an rpg hgame.

>>366181

Work for pay or sell goods. The begging is usually pretending to work for pay but not actually working, that's what's wrong with it. The same problem as selling goods but not delivering them. It's fraud.

>>366181

Never give money to someone that either A) does not have a finished design document, or B) does not have a history of finishing projects. The document is the big one. It should include a complete list of features, the gameplay explained and a guess as to the amount of content there will be. The biggest crime many of these games is that they start accepting money through ebegging, but then start going back and redoing parts of the game instead of pushing forward and completing it. I'd give a dev a once do over, a second draft, but beyond that you know that faggot is just milking with what he has rather than taking risks to deliver the final product.

>>323852

Well theres this

https://shinobuproject.itch.io/game

I know its not quite what you were talking about but it does show some promise as a waifu simulator with dynamic response to actions.

>>332950

>heavily streamlined version of JoNT

JoNT?

>>367639

post your art

>>366181

Either tip jar or outright selling finished product. Anything inbetween is pure kikery and should not be condoned.

>>367714

>>367449

What could we use as a tip jar or "full price" payement method that wont kick us out as soon as we post loli and stuff ?

>>367958

>no game yet

>HOW ME MAEK MONI GIBE LOLI MONI

>>367958

Patreon doesn't care about what you're doing if you don't publicize it on their platform, so it'd still work as a tip jar.

DLsite and itch.io also don't appear to give a crap. Isn't there a somethingstar coming about too?

>>368139

from what i've heard subscribestar is a shady russian mafia thing

Deciding on whether or not to make a trainer game or not, wondering what kind of things anons would like to see that you haven't already.

>>366181

Fenoxo has a model where backers pay for access to builds before anyone else, I consider it a good model since it isn't something like an expansion pack which blocks too much content behind a paywall most people are going to bypass lest you put copy protrection on your hgame.

>>370304

>actual sexual content

>no grinding, or at least no grinding unrelated to training

>no cuckshit: if anyone else is fucking your slave, it'd better be another slave acting on your orders

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1aqUuI3z70

dev stage: playble but moonrunes.

https://mega.nz/#!E9A30KrC!e4CBukakPwICMCOx2-SNNSnE1pkiSItS4INf6C_gnK0

>>370304

>make the dude invisible and only have a floating dick in scenes, or have proper pov scenes that don't look like i'm watching some hyper muscle fucking the slave/trainee.

>no forced or """"optional"""" cuckshit. as in; it still happens, you just skip the scene.

>add a gallery and a way to access it without having to play through the game, i'm here to fap, not to spend 3 hours before i see a single tiddy.

Also, this

>>370384

>>371195

I think it could be interesting. The model looks alright.

I'm making a text-based game. I mainly do it to improve my writing skills, but at the same time I want as many people as possible to at least try it. Many people wouldn't even look at a text-based game, much less one without any visuals, so I was wondering if I should, as much as I would hate that, add real porn pics to the mix.

In other words can pure writing stand on its own as a porn game, or should I add porn pics into it?

>>371456

I'd say it depends. I know there are some fanfics in the day that got my rocks off. Now tho, I have poor eyesight and reading too much can strain my eyes, so that's the main reason why I stay away from text-based games sadly…

What I think would be great, tho is more work, is to have options that the player can turn images on or off, that way it can maybe appeal to more people. Some can enjoy the porn pics, but also some can enjoy just the words and letting their imagination help make it sexier for them. What you decide to do is up to you, this is just my 2 cents.

>>371195

>>371493

I'm open to requests, critics, suggestions and gladly accept your YGO fanfics, stories and modifications.

>>371493

-thumbs up- sounds good. I'm not all that versed in yugioh, but I'll check it out if it can run of my 4GB ram computer

>>371501

Of course it will.

It's just a powerpoint presentation with lots of screens, links and gifs.

>>371501

I will try do my best this days with the translation to english

>>371548

The lighting in the first one makes her shape easier to see, but the colours seem more washed out.

>>371548

I kinda like how the first one looks overall, but while having them side-by-side, I realize that the head/face is clearer in the second one, while the body looks clearer/more natural to me in the first.

>>371548

Basically what >>371554 said.

The first gives a better sense of shape, but that wouldn't be an issue to begin with if there were details on the body.

>>371694

Kind of pointless to post when you are this early into it, feedback can't really help at this stage either unless you are doing something stupid.

>>371752

I'd like to know what you'd like to see in a YGO GX hg besides all the features i have in mind. Just looking for inspiration.

It's very early in development, and has some kinks (lol) to work out, but I decided to upload what I have so far of my lewd battle system for others to try out. For Windows by the way. I have no idea how to format for mac or linix, or even if I want to try and do that. https://universalmonster.itch.io/lewd-battle-system

>>371812

I can only tell you what I told the other guy, it's way too early to give any feedback. I would love to because feedback also helped me greatly.

I can say things like abilities deal too little damage but you obviously know this just haven't go into balancing. I could say you need tooltips for abilities and enemies to show their type. You need icons a turn order, better visual for UI. You either already know all of this or you will do a different solution but nothing I say matters. Keep working on the game it takes a fuckton of time.

>>371831

Tooltips for attacks would probably be beneficial. The damage attacks only do 5 HP damage cause they're suppose to be base attacks of their "element", but the lewd attacks are suppose to be used semi strategically to do the most lewd damage possible. Idk about a turn order display, cause right now the turn order will always be the same. If I make turn order randomized in the future, then yeah I'll probably add a display UI for that.

Yeah, it will take a fuckton of time.

>>372044

I'm not familiar with VR, and I wouldnt know what kind of gameplay or minigames would work well for VR. Those are some cute outfits tho!

>>372044

Dirty, niche fetishes. Lots of them.

>>372139

Open with PowerPoint 2010. Newers versions should work but didn't tried yet.

>>372296

I see you made a duel system and recreated Domino City using original assets. That's cool.

The YGO universe has lots of pretty girls and interesting locations to explore.

It's great to find someone who also is making a YGO hg. Yours is set in Domino City and mine in Duel Academy.

We can share ideas and improve both projects.

Did you tried my hg? It's more an amateur visual novel than a proper game. I'll post the first update soon with more 3D cutscenes and lots of dialogs. That was just a concept.

You can allways talk to me about the YGO universe, YGO girls, lore, design, etc..

Do you speak only english?

>>372296

If you already copied the main character why not use the card icons as well?

>>372339

I did, is pretty good for a small demo, lots of scenes already, pretty good.

You just need to fix the resolution when exporting the videos

my game is actualy out.

30decks.itch.io/duelkinkstrainer

My plan is to follow the anime all the way to 5ds.

>>372345

i dont want to get sued so i not using any oficial art.

>>372350

Pretty sure you could already get sued.

>>372351

not while parody laws exist

>>372359

Read up on Walt Disney Productions v. Air Pirates case.

>>372350

I'm the guy of the PowerPoint.

I played your game yesterday and today.

I had fun with it. Has a solid gameplay and the dialogues are ingenious/clever

Keep adding events. You got a good game there right now

>>372351

The guy of the PowerPoint again.

What about me? It is dangerous share my game? I do not get profit from it

>>372393

I never said it was dangerous, companies wont care about minor games like these. Developers are always advised against creating fan games because of this. If you wont make any profit related to it you are safe.

>>372393

Konami doesnt give a shit about free games.

there are 3 full fledged castlevania fan games out there and konami told the devs as long they dont sell it for money they would not go after then

just dont sell your game and you will be fine.

>>372720

Good art is the most important for adult VN so focus on that. Story wise I would say to focus on the main point whatever it is like pc becoming a slut not actually making a story like you would write a book.

>>372720

I think for Visual Novels the visual aspect is important. What sets it apart from a novel is you can use the visuals to help guide the player rather than having to describe everything. Backgrounds, locations and character art. Multiple CGs for each character to give them "motion" would also help I guess.

>Character choices

To keep down complexity so that you can actually finish it, focus on a main route. You can add choices for flavor scenes which are tangentially related, but it would be best to have a completed route first. If you want to have 2 endings, plan them out first and plan out which choice (or combination of choices) will lead to them.

>>372781

>just started using a flowchart

how have you planned for this before? In any case, take a look at walkthroughs for other VNs. The flowchart to play through the game is more the less same as the flowchart to design the game, just less details and conditionals.

>>373322

You can always dump dialogue in pastebin and post here for some feedback. That or even make your own thread once you have enough. CoC anons will probably have some dialogue experience to help along as long as you make it clear what you want.

>smith

Looking good. I like the colours.

>>365043

HOLY FUCK CHINK IS BACK

>>365043

>>373542

just wanna let you guys know this new game under the name LonaRPG is still developed by chink/eccma417, currently on alpha 2.3.3

It's still got the same quality of art, the same hardcore-ness of Feira, but with way more gameplay. Definitely can't wait to see it finished

>>373656

I wouldn't hold on to any hope for this game until he's been active for more half a year with decent amount of work put into it.

I straight up hate coding, it's such a fucking hassle and all I'm doing is basic python shit

How do you coders cope?

>>374408

Coding is my favorite part, might be because it's my strongest suit. Love refactoring and doing complex features, the boring work is only at the beginning of the project. Doesn't need much creativity so I can simply force myself to do it and don't need to worry about quality like for game design and writing. It sounds like you need more experience so you can build better code that takes less time to write and maintain.