No.19124 [Last50 Posts]
Selling Sex and a segway into Vidya
So, halfchan started mass reporting camgirls and the like to the IRS for unreported income a few days ago after someone suggested it on reddit. It has spilled over onto 8/pol/ and there is new a board here (albeit sort of dead) for the operation as well. Apparently this is spreading far and wide with the emphasis being on Snapchat Premium memberships in which these women trade nudes and attention for money. It's been so effective that it's being predicted this will negatively effect Snapchat's stock prices on Monday.
I wanted to share my thoughts no pun intended on the entire thing, which despite my personal feelings about taxes has me sensibly chuckling to myself.
First, I wholeheartedly believe that collection of taxes under the threat of violence is fundamentally wrong, as is any forced redistribution of wealth. I also think that the free market should reign supreme and that if there are guys out there willing to pay $5 for a pic of some rando's tits, so be it. Supply and demand. There's exceptions and caveats but that's the general idea for me anyway.
That being said, there's something undeniably satisfying about seeing eThots getting audited and trying to defend why they don't pay their taxes. Of course most, including the white knights defending m'ladys honor, are employing the "I'm a chick so I get a free pass" excuse, as well as blubbering about how "it's an attack on all sex workers" - which btw I'd be happy to assure them the IRS gives not one single fuck about.
Twitch streamers who are there to sell the sexy gamergrrl image are also being reported. And it makes me smug af tbh, despite some guilt over condoning turning people into the shekel-grubbing machine that is the IRS. As a woman and an avid gamer for my entire life I've seen the huge shift in perception from girls who love games into "gamergrrls" over the last 10 or so years. Growing up we all just played games, boys and girls, and it was no big deal. There's always been less girls and that's always been fine. But this new sexy cam-gamer-girl thing has done massive damage to the gaming industry and forged a huge divide between males and females in many player communities. The industry's new focus on SJW buzzwords like "inclusion" and "diversity" is one direct result of giving into an extremely vocal minority of these money and image obsessed harpies over actual male and female gamers who quietly buy and enjoy the games. The latest best example of this is inserting females into Battlefield V combat roles - as if we are all so delicate that we couldn't possibly play as a male character in a historical recreation and haven't been doing so, and enjoying it, for decades.
If Twitch ever cared about curating positive gaming communities, they certainly don't now. Why they allow this trash on a gaming site, when there's hundreds of other sites for eThots to beg for beta shekels on is proof that the paypig money is just too good for Twitch to let go of despite the overall negative effect it has on the image of girls who are actually into vidya.
/end psuedo-rant
I'm interested in other people's thoughts on this. I certainly realize the motivation in reporting them for the guys doing it especially /pol/ is definitely different than my own feelings about it, but that doesn't mean I can't sit back and have a laugh at the panic and damage they are causing. Sometimes you have to just let go ride the wave.
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No.19128
Horse-shoeing female related things into vidya is garbage. More specifically how much inclusion and other shit can you add before it starts becoming too unrealistic for a game that claims to be "rrealistic" so to speak. Cam type girls are loathsome they ruin vidya and cosplay and every other hobby they can get their tits on.
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No.19134
>>19124
I completely agree. All taxes are theft, but since most of these thots are leftists and they support wealth redistribution, it's hilarious seeing them get exactly what they asked for and then bitch about it.
Cultural-libertarianism at work.
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No.19139
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No.19147
>>19124
>segway
close enough
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No.19148
>>19134
that is a sht image even as a joke
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No.19160
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No.19172
eThots got a taste of their own medicine tbh, I really dislike thots too coming from a girl.
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No.19173
eThots got a taste of their own medicine tbh, I really dislike thots too coming from a girl who likes videogames and anime.
>But good riddance to Thots overall, they ruin the fun activities for everyone.
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No.19357
Oh, I love it. Any individual above the age of eighteen within the United States with an income needs to pay taxes. There is no exception for "donations" or "online work". I'm sure everybody else who is a decent citizen and who provides services and goods online is paying taxes, so why should these whores not? Because it magically doesn't count? What makes it even worse that they're not paying taxes is the sheer amount of money they're receiving. Many of these "women" (they've butchered the female gender) do "sex work" as their main source of income. And anybody who has seen the setup/bedroom/house of a semi-popular Twitch slut or Chaturbate whore knows that they can make fucking bank leaning over on cam or flashing their tits. Though I honestly have more respect for the outright whores on Chaturbate compared to the girls on Twitch who think they're somehow too good for that while consciously doing sexual things on camera with the defense of "I didn't know it was sexual :0!!!!". They knowingly exploit often lonely men who can't tell that this sort of interaction is unhealthy.
Now, taxes go towards public services and many things that an individual might not agree with, but it's how America works and you have to pay taxes as a citizen with income. It's only fair to give back, because this is not a totally free ride. Same with illegal immigrants, don't even get me started. Both they and e-whores exploit our system. And I can guarantee that the reason these whores aren't paying taxes is that they're simply greedy. It's not a political statement, where they're standing up for what their taxes fund, no. They're just greedy and want to use excuses like "you're attacking women :((((" and "but its online donations so it doesnt count!!!!". Deep down they know it's all bullshit, it's incredibly obvious that they just want the money and the whole idea of sex work is that you get money, unless you're some weirdo who just likes to flash their crotch for free, I mean go for it. I'd respect that more than ">w< oopsie my top came down a lil buy my premium snapchat where I teez u all with butt pix!!!!"
Moral of the story - whores may not be people like you and me, but they are classified as citizens and they're not an exception to paying taxes just because they show strangers their pussy for money online.
Velvet is cool, though. I have a gay crush on her.
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No.19372
>>19357
>I'm sure everybody else who is a decent citizen and who provides services and goods online is paying taxes
Sure, Jan.
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No.19390
>>19173
>coming from a girl who likes videogames and anime
Because you're ugly, you mean
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No.19395
>>19390
I bet you unironically wonder why you can't get a girlfriend btw eThots that you give shekels to don't count as girlfriends, anon
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No.19443
>>19395
>Everyone I disagree with can't get laid
I'm curios if you get mad at men who reduce the value women provide to nothing but sex.
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No.19459
>>19443
There's no disagreement. Where's the disagreement? He's a cunt who came in just to be rude and to insult someone for literally no reason so I returned the favor.
And no I don't get "mad" lul about what men say about women. Why would I? It's simple from my point of view. Men who only think about women as providing sex will only ever get that from a woman. And women who think of men as only as piggy banks will only ever get that as well. They're honestly made for a each other. Like attracts like. So all the best to those who allow feminists and mgtow to control their personal relationships through ideology, aka mind control, only to miss out on actual, organic relations between real humans without agendas.
In the meanwhile, guys who want to come to our tiny corner of 8ch where we keep to ourselves and bother no one just to insult us really need to get some thicker skin if "hurr you can't get laid" hurts their fees. As a matter of fact, I'm pretty sure that's what his insult to that femanon was meant to convey in the first place, no? That's she plays games cuz shes too ugly to get a guy? Hmm funny how it all comes full circle.
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No.19464
>>19459
I'm not questioning you insulting him, I'm questioning your choice of insult.
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No.19465
>>19464
You know why I chose that insult but I'll answer anyway because I like being blunt and not mincing words or implying. I chose it because it clearly hurts. You realize insults are meant to hurt right? It's all but admitted on every board here where guys screenshot women who call them sad virgins, incels, betas, etc., post it, and then pretend like it doesn't bother them by autistically screeching about how all women are "useless holes" to the tune of 350+, clearly not caring :^), replies. It's pretty basic psychology really. Amazing what you can learn as a woman lurking here for a few years. So I took a shot in the dark that he was among those that it would effect.
Point is we're here minding our own business and they still come here with their (1) and done bullshit. And we roll our eyes take it on the chin because any of us who's been here a while is used to their projection and never ending kvetching. We get it. We get it more than you know.
But heaven forbid one of us says something back that isn't just "no u"..
I can't imagine anyone else on this entire site full of insults all day every day is being "questioned" about their "choice of insult". I understand why you ask though. A "hole" dared to question a mean, unfunny bastard's "manhood". I shall repent. Right after I eat this chicken salad sandwich.
I really hope this has cleared things up for you and I feel cleansed having done it. Have a cute fluffy llama on me anon.
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No.19467
>>19465
>It's all but admitted on every board here where guys screenshot women who call them sad virgins, incels, betas, etc., post it, and then pretend like it doesn't bother them by autistically screeching about how all women are "useless holes" to the tune of 350+, clearly not caring :^), replies
I've never seen this outside of incel boards and this one.
>You realize insults are meant to hurt right?
Yes. That's why I don't understand this "insult".
Essentially everyone can easily get a boyfriend/girlfriend just by lowering their standards. Finding someone decent and build a family that will not end up in singlemotherhood within a few years is difficult, but just finding someone isn't.
I think for most incels the problem isn't even their standards. The most famous Incel Eliot Rodger was about average looking. Perhaps even slightly above average if you consider how many people are overweight nowadays. And he came from a wealthy successful family. He could had easily found a GF or a cougar or something probably without much effort if he were mentally healthy.
>It's pretty basic psychology really. Amazing what you can learn as a woman lurking here for a few years.
You do realize that 8chan is a niche website that doesn't represent the norm? The most popular (and my personal favourite) board is a nazi forum that blames the jews for absolutely everything
The third biggest board is /b/. A normal person would visit this site once and leave in disgust.
But if you learn about men from a niche website like this it explains a lot I guess.
>But heaven forbid one of us says something back that isn't just "no u"..
>A "hole" dared to question a mean, unfunny bastard's "manhood". I shall repent.
Are you responding to my posts or are you talking to a projection? Because I can't see were you got that from the two short sentences I've written so far.
The guy you insulted was defending e-thots. I don't think he's the kind of guy complaining about "useless holes".
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No.19471
>>19465
>>19467
Here comes the bride!
Here comes the groom!
Quit your fucking bickering,
and get a fucking room! Sorry, couldn't resist.
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No.19477
>>19467
So you're telling me you've never seen any female bashing threads on /pol/ or /b/ or anywhere else besides "incel" boards.. What a joke man, cmon. And I'll ask again, why out of every insult on this entire site, mine is the one that triggered a response from you? Why specifically that one and not the original one aimed at the femanon? I don't care about "men here aren't the norm" or "Elliott Rodgers could have had a milf" or whatever social commentary you're trying to derive from this whole thing. It was an insult directed at that specific anon, the type of charming anon that comes here and insults random women just for being women,
Anyway, I've obliged you and made my reasons clear and am just repeating myself at this point. Your reasons, eh not so clear. It seems to me you took it personally and/or feel like you need to defend all men, even the shitty ones, for whatever reason. There's nothing I can do, or are willing to do, to alleviate that if it is indeed the case, I'm sorry. I'm sure you're a great guy, anon. Good luck with your Nazi stuff. And have another fluffy llama as a parting gift. Also, polite sage because no one else cares and I realize that.
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No.19481
>>19173
What's your problem with thots? They provide a good service.
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No.19482
>>19477
The point he's failing to make is that you're stooping to the same level, by using the same kind of insult against someone that clearly never intended to post here more than once. Just call him a faggot, and use the report button.
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No.19483
>>19482
Nah not gonna report him. It's all good.
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No.19486
>>19483
Why? He literally just came in to call you ugly. Couldn't you at least just ignore it, then?
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No.19487
>>19477
>So you're telling me you've never seen any female bashing threads on /pol/ or /b/ or anywhere else besides "incel" boards..
Yes of course. But on /pol/ females are bashed for voting leftist, making false claims about a gender paygap and holding up "migrants welcome" signs.
Not for the incel stuff you proposed.
>>19477
>It was an insult directed at that specific anon, the type of charming anon that comes here and insults random women just for being women,
>women just for being women,
>women just for being women,
He suggested in an insulting manner that the only reason a women does not like e-thots is because she isn't hot enough to be one herself - because she is envy.
He did not insult "random women", he insulted one woman while defending a group of women.
I don't see how you read "insulting women for being women" in that.
Once again I think you are projecting something here that isn't there or maybe he was actually triggering you with that post. Maybe you are indeed jelly of women who are hot enough to make a living out of it.
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No.19488
>>19487
>>19477
To add to it. Aren't e-thots on average more feminine looking and feminine acting than the average woman? Therefore in a way more woman than most women?
If so, how is someone who defends e-thots and who goes as far as insulting someone for not liking e-thots by suggesting envy insulting women "for being women"?
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No.19490
>>19488
Same reason to hate chad. Not for confidence, but irresponsibility. Under proper guidance they could be the mothers and fathers of greats, but they waste themselves. Degenerates.
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No.19493
>>19490
Do chads not work out in the gym which requires responsibility, delay of gratification and discipline?
There are no doubt people who work out and still have poor impulse control in other areas of their life but I'd be willing to bet that the people that complain about chad have on average significantly worse impulse control, discipline and responsibility.
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No.19494
>>19493
>do chads not work out in the gym which requires responsibility, delay of gratification and discipline
An absolute norm, in a non-decadent era and society. Only the lowest would envy such a thing. Might as well look up to celebrities for being rich, when it isn't what you make that should bring pride, but what you do with it. Your ideal should be more than "don't be a mess". It should be absolute perfection that you try to reach at all costs, lest you become some bickering goon trying to drag everyone down with you to rock bottom.
A whore of today can practice almost perfect hygiene, (again this being something only a misanthropic troglodyte could worship as perfection,) but still waste efforts away engorging themselves with attention rather than raising families. At least you're not addicted to crack, right? Wrong.
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No.19495
>>19494
I understand if you personally despise chads and tracey's for wasting their potential. I agree and I can't argue with that.
However I don't believe that the overall hatred against them that originally popularized this meme comes for this reason.
I just looked up the obesity rates. 40% of adults are overweight and 13% are obese.
Not american adults - but adults overall! In the US 2/3 are overweight and 1/3 are not just overweight but obese too. https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/319902.php
Most people on this website are likely from the US and most are likely nerds spending too much time in front of a internet browser therefore the overwhelming majority here is probably overweight or obese. I don't think that those people hate tracy or chad because he's wasting his potential and if they do they are hypocrites.
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No.19497
>>19487
>maybe he was actually triggering you with that post.
Holy shit talk about the pot calling the kettle black. I answered your questions and you just keep goinggg…
>I think you are projecting something
Haha oh man…
>Maybe you are indeed jelly of women who are hot enough to make a living out of it.
Yes Freud, shekels are my life and I'd do anything for them like all women. We are all the same. Beep boop.
>>19495
Chads and Stacies are stereotypical normalfags. That's why people here mock and meme them as morons. Going to the gym doesn't make you some god of self-discipline alone. You can still be dumb as a bag of hammers, entirely unconscious and still have a nice body. Healthy bodies should be maintained of course, as it is the earthly vehicle by which the intangible higher mind interacts with the solid material world and facilitates real change. Chads and Stacies have only the one thing however, their bodies, and no active consciousness of the world around them other than what feels good and what feels bad,.. like animals. The change they create is arbitrary and akin to the change a bull makes when it stampedes through a china-shop. They are the walking dead, the mindless zombie horde, and are worthy of derision.
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No.19498
>>19497
Can you explain how he insulted women "for being women" while he was defending a group of very feminine women?
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No.19499
>>19497
>Yes Freud, shekels are my life and I'd do anything for them like all women.
Who said that your or a woman's life is all about shekels?
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No.19500
>>19495
Except many of the complaints about them are about their "muddying" of the social hierarchy, a consequence of their irresponsibilities. So because they complain about the result means the root of it should be paid no mind?
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No.19502
>>19498
Explain to me first what's "feminine" about them, because I don't think you and I have the same definition of the word. They cake on makeup, act like retarded bimbos and show skin to anyone indiscriminately for money and fleeting social acceptance. It's literally drag queen tier behavior. In other words, a facsimile and exaggeration of all of the worst behaviors of the shittiest women among us. Is this your definition of "feminine"? Help me understand senpai.
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No.19503
>>19502
https://www.thefreedictionary.com/feminine
>. having qualities or characteristics traditionally ascribed to women, as sensitivity, delicacy, or prettiness.
>. effeminate; womanish.
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/dictionary/english/feminine
>adjective
>Someone or something that is feminine has qualities that are considered typical of women, especially being pretty or gentle.
Sensitive, delicate, gentle and "especially" pretty. That seems fitting to me when describing e-thots.
But that is actually quite irrelevant and I believe you know that this is irrelevant.
He insulted one woman (singular) while defending a group of women. How does that translate into "attacking women" (plural) "for just being women"?
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No.19504
>>19499
You, for thinking the amount of fiat money you accrue matters at all. Sounding pretty hedonistic, I'll say.
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No.19505
>>19500
>So because they complain about the result means the root of it should be paid no mind?
I never made that argument.
I'm asserting that many if not most people hate chads and tracys foremost because they are envious.
The root of the problem is a different discussion.
>>19504
>You, for thinking the amount of fiat money you accrue matters at all. Sounding pretty hedonistic, I'll say.
No, this does not follow. Me thinking something does not equate to me saying it. I think you are smart enough to see that there is a difference between thoughts (which you can only assume or accuse me off) and spoken arguments - maybe you are just tired or something to temporarily not see that difference.
Furthermore you can envy someone for being so beautiful that they can make money out off it without desiring their career path. Similarly I can envy a chess player for his intelligence and visual thinking but not desire to become a chess player.
Also I don't think that the average e-thot earns much money. There are probably more lucrative career choices if it were indeed all about the shekels. But I'm not talking about shekels, I'm talking about envy.
>matters at all.
The money you make does matter at least to degree that you can survive and feed yourself. As such to say that it doesn't matter at all is wrong unless you can find a different way to feed and shelter yourself. And also find a way to not pay for your internet provider.
But the value of money, how much of it you need, at what point it becomes decadent and all that other stuff this is a discussion completely irrelevant to he topic of e-thots or the thotauddit.
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No.19506
>>19505
>people hate chads and tracys foremost because they are envious
Despite how much I have proven it to be a problem much more complicated than "you're just jealous"? If you don't envy them, then what makes it so likely that they envy them? Is it because they're lower than you?
>the root of the problem is a different discussion
Not as long as you keep bringing it up. Give up on it, and I'll assume you don't have a point against it.
>you can envy someone for being so beautiful that they can make money out off it
Again, what makes all of life so emotionally-driven, to you? How do you know so sure it is envy, so much as it isn't disgust, or contempt?
>I don't think that the average e-thot earns much money
Perhaps you could bring up some figures to back up these claims.
>the money you make does matter at least to degree that you can survive and feed yourself
Have you ever eaten something you've made yourself? Am I debating with someone so far downtown, they only think money is how you get food?
>this is a discussion completely irrelevant to he topic of e-thots or the thotauddit
That's too bad. I'm very interested in talking some more.
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No.19507
>>19506
>Despite how much I have proven it to be a problem much more complicated than "you're just jealous"?
You cannot prove or disprove what motivates someone to hate someone else. Neither can I. We can at best make reasonable assumptions but we cannot prove anything. There is nothing to prove here and no argument to win.
None of the things you mentioned so far I would consider sufficient to hate someone or a group. There are plenty of people that waste their potential. There are plenty of people of people dragging others down due their imperfections that are not chads.
In fact, non-chads seem much worse in the things you mentioned so far.
>Perhaps you could bring up some figures to back up these claims.
When I go to twitch I find hundreds of channels with girls streaming that have less then 50 people watching.
In fact many have less than 10.
How much money do you think they make?
Sure, they are not all thots. Most are probably not. Albeit some have profile pictures that suggest thot.
I don't know how to find figures for something that apparently wasn't even taxed until recently. I'm not even interested in researching it. As far as I know the average person streaming on twitch doesn't earn any money at all.
But if you believe that showing cleavage in front of a webcam earns - on average - more money than accounting I'm not interested in convincing you otherwise. I'd think you'd be delusional but I won't bother proving you wrong.
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No.19508
>>19506
Also have you seen earlier that some guy called a woman ugly because she dislikes thots?
Do you think that guy was insulting wom"en" (instead of woman) "just for being women"?
Seems kinda far-stretched and ridiculous to me.
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No.19509
>>19507
>there is nothing to prove here and no argument to win
To "win"? Do you intend to stumble over and make a fool of yourself through this entire debate? You're doing well at that, I can say. Nothing but arguments with nothing to back them. I'm afraid the point still stands, and the burden of proof lies on you.
>>19508
Women like her would definitely feel insulted by that, unless you're dragging on the use of a singular noun for the sake of pilpul.
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No.19510
>>19509
When I say that Twitch currently list thousands of channel with less than 10 people watching, do you not believe me? You can easily go and verify my claim, the evidence is right here: twitch.tv
I also want to point out that the moment you make any assertion or claim that goes beyond questioning mine you take upon the burden of proof yourself.
Yet you have not provided anything so far.
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No.19511
>>19509
It's one thing to be insulted. It's another thing to be insulted "for being a woman".
The plural is important to note because that girl has made other statements that are divisive among the sexes suggesting the use of plural is very much intentional.
I have not questioned if she felt insulted. You are twisting my Argument into one that suits you better.
This is called attacking a strawman and it's very dishonest and manipulative. You should feel ashamed.
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No.19512
>>19510
>the evidence is right here
Post it.
>>19511
>the moment you make any assertion or claim that goes beyond questioning mine
The moment you make a claim, it must be backed up. Learn to argue.
>>19511
>the plural is important to note because that girl has made other statements that are divisive among the sexes
There's definitely more than one woman in existence that dislikes whores. This is what she referred to, and it is obvious you are taking advantage of a spelling mistake to pilpul the argument. It is an insult to women, for sure. Women that dislike whores.
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No.19513
>>19512
>The moment you make a claim, it must be backed up. Learn to argue.
Why should I hold myself to a higher standard in this discussion than you hold yourself up to?
If twitch.tv is not sufficient evidence for the content of twitch than you are intentionally setting a riddicously high standard of what is acceptable evidence just so you can dismiss anything I say.
It's obvious that you do not hold yourself to the same standards you demand of others.
You make claims without evidence, for example that monetary income does not matter (who pays for your internet, girl?) - without any evidence.
No one of reasonable mind would doubt that there are thousands of livestreams with low viewercount.
If I were to claim that water is a fluid or that the sky at noon is blue you would scream for evidence just to dismiss what I said.
Fucking slimy dishonest hypocrite.
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No.19514
>>19508
>Also have you seen earlier that some guy called a woman ugly because she dislikes thots?
Pretty sure he said she was ugly specifically because she likes video games and anime (which implies a hell of a lot more than "he's just defending feminine wammen!"). But as it turns out, it doesn't say in Webster's dictionary that playing vidya is considered feminine so I guess he was probably right all along!
What a twist!
Jokes aside I really don't understand what you want from all this. Do you want me to get on my knees and beg for forgiveness because I dared to insult the guy back in kind? Was it immature, yeah it was. So fucking what? You're trying desperately to imply that I'm triggered when it's you who clearly are. Sitting in this thread waiting for replies, looking up definitions and statistics and Twitch streams like it somehow proves he was just defending m'lady's honor. Are you him or something? You win dude. You've worn me down with reddit spacing and persistence. I yield.
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No.19516
>>19513
>why should I hold myself to a higher standard in this discussion than you hold yourself up to
You never held the standard to begin with. You only came in to make claims and argue everyone for proof against it. The burden of proof is on you.
>if twitch.tv is not sufficient evidence for the content of twitch
Post the proof.
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No.19521
>>19516
The burden of proof can only be used to dismiss a claim.
It does not mean that you can make counter-arguments or claims without subjecting yourself to the same burden. - And that's exactly what you did, you pseudo intellectual wannabe.
>You never held the standard to begin with.
That is correct. I'm not asking you to proof things that can be verified within a minute or that anyone who uses twitch will agree are true.
Because doing so is retarded and everyone else will see it as that. It's akin to asking for evidence for the color of the sky.
Since I'm not demanding something of you I'm not delivering myself I'm also not a hypocrite.
You fucking slimy disgusting manipulative hypocrite.
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No.19522
>>19514
He insulted someone for voicing an opinion he dislikes.
That doesn't mean he insulted her for being a women nor that he insulted all womenhood.
What does it feel like to live in a world in which everything is a men vs women issue, even something as mundane as insulting a weeb? Where you alway try to make yourself be a victim of society by proxy?
I bet it must pretty fucking suck.
It's the female equivalent of being an Incel. I guess I should just leave you alone because mentally living in that world is a punishment in itself and you deserve it.
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No.19523
>>19521
>>19522
>the burden of proof can only be used to dismiss a claim
Which you made, with no proof. You went first, so you prove first.
>doing so is retarded and everyone else will see it as that
Then no one will ever believe you. Piss off.
>that doesn't mean he insulted her for being a women nor that he insulted all womenhood
He insulted women who dislike whores. Get it through your head.
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No.19525
>>19523
"I refuse to believe that there are plenty of streamers on twitch with low viewer count".
"I demand extraordinary evidence for an ordinary claim that can be easily verified"
It's obvious to everyone else that you are just being obnoxious and intellectually dishonest here.
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No.19526
>>19523
Also here is your evidence:
https://sullygnome.com/viewers/watchedchannels
These are the statistics by twitch. Sort by viewer count in ascending order and you'll find that there are thousand of pages with channels that have not even 1 viewer or follower.
Playing videogames in front of a webcam is not a lucrative career choice unless you are really lucky and charismatic.
Demanding extraordinary evidence for an ordinary claim is intellectually dishonest but twitch official statistics are probably the best source available.
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No.19527
>>19523
I also want to note that earlier I posted sources on statistics about obesity rates.
Your claim that I made nothing but arguments so far is therefore evidently wrong. Besides arguments I also provided sourced statistics. So far I linked more sources than you did in this discussion.
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No.19528
>>19525
>>19526
>>19527
Said obesity and twitch statistics don't correlate to anything of your original argument, unless you want to find something actually bringing obesity rates twitch profitability comes into an insult not being what it was. He insulted women who dislike whores, which would stand to offend more than one woman. There's no getting around that.
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No.19530
>>19528
Which original argument are you referring to? Do you mean when I argued that income actually matters at least a little bit because someone has to pay for your internet bill?
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No.19531
>>19530
The insult. The one you keep defending to death, possibly because as the anon above noted, you're possibly the original poster of.
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No.19532
>>19528
>which would stand to offend more than one woman.
But that doesn't matter. It's completely irrelevant.
Because we are not discussing whether not he insulted a bunch of women.
We're discussing whether or not he insulted them "just for being women".
You are a retard if you cannot differentiate between "he insulted a bunch of women" and "he insulted women just for being women".
Take a deep breath. Read these two statements carefully. And realize that these are two different statements.
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No.19533
>>19531
I never defended his insult.
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No.19534
>>19532
>>19533
>he did not insult random women
>he insulted one woman while defending a group of women
You defended his insult.
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No.19535
>>19534
To defend his insult would be to say it was justified. I never said his insult was justified -because it was not.
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No.19536
>>19534
Have you come yet to the realization that insulting a female weeb (and by proxy all other weebs) is different from "insulting women just for being women"?
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No.19538
>>19535
>>19536
>to defend his insult would be to say it was justified
>he did not
Keep pretending you didn't, and yes, she didn't say "all women", so therefore your attempt to shift this again to wordplay is wrong. You're insulting weeb women for being weeb women.
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No.19541
>>19538
Do you finally agree with me? Insulting someone for their hobbies or opinions is different from insulting them for their sex.
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No.19548
>>19525
>I refuse to believe that there are plenty of streamers on twitch with low viewer count
He didn't say or imply that. He was asking you to back up your own shit and you know it. Don't play dumb.
>>19526
>Playing videogames in front of a webcam is not a lucrative career choice unless you are really lucky and charismatic.
Or have giant tits that you aim your camera at. Girl shows tits = Girl gets views. It's not hard to do and is well known to be a thing. Especially on Twitch where they've had multiple revisions to the TOS specifically prompted by this behavior and complaints from partners who started seeing their categories saturated, and in some cases dominated, by titty streamers who barely played the games.
>>19522
>I guess I should just leave you alone because mentally living in that world is a punishment in itself and you deserve it.
Nice one dude, bravo. Now I'm not a master debater like you, anon, but I believe they call that Argumentum ad Hominem and it usually occurs when one has no more arguments to make so an effort is made to insult or demoralize. Sorry I don't have an infographic to go with it like your really cool strawman one. But I do have pics related which I collectively like to call "Ode to 80370e (27)".
>>19535
>To defend his insult would be to say it was justified. I never said his insult was justified -because it was not.
Riiiight, you say that now after originally trying to twist the entire thing and failing into some heroic defense of the more "feminine" ethots against an obviously less feminine (according to official sources of course) femanon who likes anime and games - whom you affectionately keep calling "a weeb". When that didn't work you attempted the oh so very predictable "y-you're just jealous" which hilariously snowballed into an unironic defense of Chad/Stacy. Then there was that comment about me causing discord among the sexes That was actually funny tho, kudos. I laffed.. So yeah, you directly and indirectly defended it. You also projected all kinds of unprovable intentions onto his post just like you criticized me for doing originally.
>>19541
>Insulting someone for their hobbies or opinions is different from insulting them for their sex.
It can be one or the other or both. WTF is so hard to understand about this?
To sum up (and hopefully conclude), I assumed the miserable fuck came to a GIRL board hoping to find a GIRL he could insult in front of all the others GIRLS. I don't think this is weird, we get shit like this fairly regularly. You seem to have assumed, well I unfortunately don't even know what you think happened because it's changed so much, but I guess it's something like he came here, picked a comment.. defended ethots.. hates anime.. I don't even know frankly. Ether way neither of us knows for sure. I can't prove anything and neither can you. It's all opinion. I'm good with that, I accept that I might be wrong.. You clearly can't.
You have a lot of questions and increasingly nasty comments for me and other anons but still have refused to answer my original one as to why you give a shit in the first place. You've tried moving the goalposts a few times already to get out of answering the question. Of all the posts to come to the defense of, you chose that one. Why are you here anon? What caused all this? Where did the bad man touch you?
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No.19552
>>19548
>He didn't say or imply that. He was asking you to back up your own shit and you know it. Don't play dumb.
How did he not imply that when he want's me to prove that the average twitch thot earns less money than someone in accounting?
>Or have giant tits that you aim your camera at. Girl shows tits = Girl gets views
And that is guaranteed to net more money than a regular career?
>with it like your really cool strawman one.
This was your first reasonable post. I find it ironic that you now complain about a strawman (and yes it was an argument ad hominem, I agree) given that before that you pot dozens of words into my mouth.
I never said that women only care about shekels nor that they are not allowed to make insults nor that all women are the same *beep boop* nor all that other stuff you tried to accuse me of. These are all strawmens you made so far.
>but still have refused to answer my original one as to why you give a shit in the first place
I believe that insulting men as virgin is degrading for the women who do so and I was curious if you get mad at men who value themeselves by the sex they get from women thereby reducing them to fleshlights.
That's all there is to it. I made two short sentences that expressed exactly that.
Then you gave me some autistic screeching >>19465 about incels, mgtow, kvetching and how men constantly keep you down and how you just have to take it as a woman.
>I assumed the miserable fuck came to a GIRL board hoping to find a GIRL he could insult in front of all the others GIRLS. I don't think this is weird, we get shit like this fairly regularly.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15491274
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No.19560
>>19552
>how did he not imply that
All you can do is imply, and speculate, instead of simply taking it at face value. You suck at debating.
>and that is guaranteed to net more money
Again, deflecting the argument into something else.
>I never said that
You defended the insult against women who like the vidya and anime
>I believe that insulting men as virgin is degrading for the women who do so
Who gives a shit? Do you?
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No.19565
>>19560
>All you can do is imply, and speculate,
Why do you not get mad at the girl who made dozens of speculations so far in this thread that are far more reaching than any of mine?
You know what, it's not even an implication.
He outright demanded me to provide that evidence. He said that browsing twitch.tv to see that most channels have no viewers is not sufficient evidence >>19512
I then provided twitch Statistics and only then did he suddenly say that these statistics don't matter. The very statistics he demanded me to post.
Why do you get mad at me when I provided the very statistics he asked for?
You just dislike my stance in this discussion and those apply hypocritical standards. And since you are a hypocrite you do not care about any of the strawmans someone made you happen to agree with. You are intellectually dishonest.
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No.19568
>>19560
>Again, deflecting the argument into something else.
What was the original argument?
Because as I recall it there are at least two people in this thread who stated that being a thot is easy money. One made a strawman by accusing me of believing that women only care about money.
So what was the original argument you think I morphed into something else?
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No.19570
>>19565
>>19568
You defended someone for insulting women here. That offends women here. Now shut the fuck up.
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No.19572
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No.19573
>>19572
>he did not insult random women
>he insulted one woman while defending a group of women
Seriously, get out.
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No.19574
>>19573
That's stating a fact. It's not excusing him of insulting that woman.
>Seriously, get out.
Because you disagree with me? Grow up.
How will you treat your future wife or gf if she disagrees with you? Throw her out? Or worse? I already feel sorry for her.
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No.19575
>>19574
You're defending a moron. Worse, you are a moron. All you want to do is argue, and that gets you nowhere. Leave, and learn some goddamn English.
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No.19576
>>19575
When your future GF disagrees with you will you slam your hands on the table and scream at her to fuck off, get out etc. for over two days?
Because if you cannot tolerate a random anonymous guy on a niche board wanting to have an argument and being somewhat annoying about it you will surely not be able to tolerate that by someone who is constantly nearby and who cannot just close the browser to avoid your autistic screaming.
I feel empathy for that poor soul.
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No.19577
>>19552
>I believe that insulting men as virgin is degrading for the women who do
>That's all there is to it. I made two short sentences that expressed exactly that.
First, I appreciate you looking out for me anon. It really gives me the warm fuzzies that you don't want to see me degrade myself. How sweet. I guess you were just looking out for me the whole time. I don't actually believe this was your reason for one second btw but that's cool. I'll give you the benefit of the doubt
Second, you did not clearly state that AT ALL. You asked if I cared if guys thought of women only as fuckmeat. I said no, I don't care. Then you asked why I chose that insult and I told you. If you had said you thought I was degrading myself from the start I would have said that it sounds like a personal problem you need to work on and I'll agree to disagree. End of thread. YOU keep dragging this out in some futile attempt to draw some higher meaning out of it all. Or much more likely you simply just can't stand it when people don't agree with you. We get it, you have opinions and they matter dammit!
>>19568
>Because as I recall it there are at least two people in this thread who stated that being a thot is easy money.
It is, that's why they do it. No one here said you'd be insta-rich from it. You've been implying that's what we think. No one here is saying that. No one here said all women streamers are thots. No one here said there was no such thing as women who have low viewer counts either. But if you're a girl showing skin on stream your chances of getting money goes way up and even if its a couple hundred dollars a week for practically no effort, that sure beats having to go get that 2 year degree in accounting. You've proven nothing with your "statistics". Scrolling down to the bottom of the Twitch main page is "statistics" now btw
You go from being so firmly black and white about things to having the attention span of a 5 yr old. You're all over the fucking map and your mind diarrhea is exhausting to piece together. I don't agree with you. You don't agree with me. End of the fucking road.
>>19570
Just to be clear I'm not offended in the least. I'm a regular on plenty of other boards including our friend's "favorite board" and this doesn't even register on my list of even potentially offensive things. He's just sharing their rich culture of endless bickering and inability to admit when they're wrong with us. I feel enriched actually.
>>19574
>How will you treat your future wife or gf if she disagrees with you?
Is this real life?
>I already feel sorry for her.
LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
You're trolling right? This is trolling, it has to be. Please keep posting stuff like this. Tell him you feel bad for his wife's son next so I can put it in the cap.
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No.19578
>>19577
>YOU keep dragging this out in some futile attempt to draw some higher meaning out of it all.
I don't have the time right now to reply to whole thing. Buuuuut…. Are we not BOTH dragging this out?
>You're all over the fucking map and your mind diarrhea is exhausting to piece together.
I just wrote two short sentences and you gave me some autistic screaching about Mgtow and how hard it is to be a woman.
I asked you if you find it bad if men (in extension society) value women only for sex and then told you that I found your choice of insult questionable. That's it.
All the stuff you screeched about in your reply to these two short sentences was completly unrelated diarrhea.
You read much more into these two sentences then there actually was.
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No.19579
>>19576
>your future gf
>wanting to have an argument and being somewhat annoying about it
You're insulting again.
>>19578
>are we not BOTH dragging this out
No. You are. Don't pretend you aren't trying to get the last word in. Do everyone a favour, and shut up.
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No.19580
>>19579
And you are not trying to have the last word or what? lol
See, I'm self aware. Thats why I said we BOTH do it. I also was insulting. I'm not pretending otherwise despite what you acuse me of.
I have not seen either of you two dense fuckheads acknowledge any of the insults or strawmen you made so far and there were plenty. Zero self awareness.
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No.19581
>>19580
>stop insulting me
No. Get fucked.
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No.19582
>>19581
I love you too darling.
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No.19584
That's some hardcore reeing in this thread. I remember when I was an edgy teenager and reed that hard.
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No.19631
>Two kikes masturbating their egos ITT
Tragic. I seem to remember girltalk under snailgrill getting ruined by estrogen infested faggots as well. Soy really is destroying mankind from within.
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No.19634
>>19631
Yes we should ban everyone who has a different opinion, that would be so based and redpilled.
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No.19687
>>19631
What happened to snailgrill?
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No.19690
>>19687
She just kind of left.
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No.19762
the fact that a girl can make money just for being female shows the state of our society. if you look at the twitters these girls had many orbiters and white knights showering them with money and gifts because ohemgee hotgril and vegena!1!1! they are pathetic and disgusting especially the orbiters. all should die
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No.19772
>>19762
>the fact that a girl can make money just for being female shows the state of our society.
If you can hear me from all the way up there on your high horse, could you please let me know when exactly in the history of humanity this has not been true?
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No.19773
>>19772
He should've worded it more specifically, "women can get money just for existing". In the past it was more being able to marry into wealth or prostitution, but with the Internet we've got this next-to-zero effort prostitution, where the woman barely has to lift a finger to keep the money rolling.
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No.19775
>>19773
Perhaps that was what he meant, however, isn't anything "making money off being your gender"? Isn't coal mining making money off being a man (i.e. being naturally stronger and more daring than women)?
What exactly is an acceptable way to make money that wouldn't trigger the tsk tsk-ing of snobs and "we live in a society"?
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No.19776
>>19775
>mining coal is the male equivalent of a female sitting on her ass and getting betas to donate to her by the thousands
Fucking
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No.19786
>>19776
I never said it was equivalent, it's merely similar. It's using an adventitious trait given to you by nature: tits for females, strong muscles for males.
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No.19834
>>19786
>Comparing a job where you can die for real with showing your tits on camera
Are you retarded?
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