/femdom/ - Femdom

No. That's why I'm here on /femdom/. Obviously.

It's only hot in my fantasy, where all women are hetero and sadists and have sex drives that match that of a horny teen boy.

IRL most women are subs, so female supremacy is going to suck.

>>3322

It's a moral imperative to put women in power regardless.

>>6064

Try being less of a misogynist.

>>3288

>Do you think female supremacy is hot?

Not really. I can't stand misandry. I want to submit to an individual woman, not be told *all* women are superior to *all* men. In fact, my ideal domme would make it a point to defend me from female supremacists.

>Would you want to have a female led relationship?

Yes.

Only if women aren't jerks about it. If they are loving and gentle, it's the hottest thing there is.

Sadly IRL it wouldn't work.

>>3289

Yes. And female led relationships are catching on like wildfire. My husband is under my authority now and we could not be happier.

Female led relationships are all over the Net and forums. Total sexual control and chastity and hard cuckolding are prevalent themes for success. I use the belt frequently on my husband. I don't allow him to fap ever. I just let him have my pussy once a year and I cuckold by fucking other men because I need satisfaction he can't give me. Sexual denial and cuckolding are key elements in my control over him.

>>6064

Try being less entitled.

>>3288

>>6064

I'm completely with you. Submission isn't weakness. We're not just saying "Oh come step on us because you're a Woman." It has to be earned.

>>7523

Spoken like a true novice in the realm of Power Exchange Relationships. You really have no idea what you are talking about. I have been in alternative lifestyle relationships since the mid 70's. FemDom and cuckolding both are PEP arrangements. As such and among mentally healthy kinky people there is really no such thing as an absolute Domme with all the power or a slave with none. The slave chooses to allow the Domme to fulfill her role in the relationship and the Domme chooses to allow herself to be party to that choice. They are both exercising free will and free choices. Yes, there is a lot of bending of the boundaries, but in any SSC scenario, either may party may opt out any any time for any reason. That relationship can be temporary as in with a pro-Domme (been there, done that) or a more durable relationship such as marriage. In all cases of durable relationships, the relationship dynamic plays out to fulfill a need or fantasy or desire that BOTH parties harbour. In the case of a pro-Domme the client pays the Domme to fulfill his fantasy, her desire is for money but like me in the past as a pro-Domme, she may also like the role from an erotic standpoint and the money is icing on the cake. The fact is that most Domme-sub relationships are sought after by the sub-mindset male. So who is in charge? The answer to that question is most likely well beyond your paygrade and is so complex that substantial portions of books on D/s and BD/sm power exchange have been dedicated to the answers. As for me, I need to be the nominal 'leader' in any relationship, so I have always either sought out submissive men, or have cultivated their submission. I have the pussy, therefore, I make the rules. For you to say that cuckolding is purely a male-dom thing is simply the foolish drivel of a babbling infant. As a part of expressing my alpha personality, from my late teens I have always greatly enjoyed cuckolding my male partners and I have always derived a great deal of satisfaction and pleasure from sexually dominating men, which is a veryyy easy thing for a woman to do. The fact that my husband's head is into it too is awesome to me. I can have my cake and eat it too, and I have found cuckolding to be a very good way to keep the male ego in check and keep a man submissive to me. What works works. Answer this since you seem to think you know so much that you have the audacity to dare correct me, child: In a pro-Domme situation in which the man is paying and the Domme is ordering him around and often slapping him silly, who is actually the 'dominant' one? Is the Domme the dominant one or not? Who is the submissive? And why? The fact is that the Domme/slave scenario, for most men is a fapping fantasy and I can safely say that you have about as much experience being a Female Domme as you have being a Roman deity. And tell me, worm, what the hell is a "real domme" anyway? You will have no relevant answer because you are a typical wannabee whose mindset is still in Pampers. Are you always so stupid or is this your weekly Stupid Day? I could go on, but I do not have time to educate a sniveling fool. But, as I am always up for some amusement from the court jesters, I do await your answers, worm.

>>7554

You have to be in your late 50s at least. Don't worry, we get it. You come from the era of Simon & Schuster and Bettie Page. I'm sure you're a very attractive older woman and automatically hold superiority over me. I understand that.

What I don't understand is your attitude towards femdom, being the veteran you are. The way I understand the fetish is that a man has a specific desire, and has the ability to fulfill that desire, but needs to prove he has earned the right to enjoy said desire, else the payoff is minimal. He needs to be punished. So for a person that enjoys licking feet while jerking off, they could see just about any whore they wanted that agreed to it in advance, but there'd be no fun in that. So instead the man agrees to become the woman's sub. Instead of feet he is made to lick everything except feet to prove his commitment and devotion. Perhaps a toilet bowl or a hard floor, all the while his cock is caged. This builds up the sexual tension over time by making him search for the needle he so badly craves for in a haystack made up of whips and chains.

Unless I'm misreading your post, the way you have chosen to go about it is that you are fulfilling both of their desires with no catch. The cuck's fetish is that he gets off to seeing his lover being deflowered by another man. Imagine it in financial terms. You are a woman that is constantly giving money to a man that has no intention of paying it back and who you expect not to pay it back, alongside another man who wishes to see his money in the hands of this man for whatever reason or motivation that may be. You are being dominated by the pair of them and you don't even realize it.

Same goes for cuckoldry. The man is using you for sex, like a prostitute, but unlike a John he does not have to pay in exchange for the experience. He is making himself feel better wholly at your expense.

The only viable method I can see cuckoldry functioning in a D/s relationship is if the roles are reversed, and that the cuck is forced to have sex whilst the bull is made to watch. You are humiliating the both of them at the same time, as the cuck wishes not to have sex whereas the bull does, rewarding them only once things have reached their peak.

>>7558

>>7556

In your simple-minded inexperience you have gone off on your own infantile tangents without bothering to ask questions to discover the fundamentals of my relationship with my sub-cuckold husband. Have you made ass-umptions? Moreover, you totally miss the power exchange potential presented by a cuckold relationship . Typical behaviour of inferior males with irrelevant points they feel that they need to prove.

Age is irrelevant, experience and knowledge is. That is where you children hold a most inferior position. I shall correctly assume that while social mores have slightly changed since the 70's, the basics of human psychology have not.

So, let's rock:

>>The way I understand the fetish is that a man has a specific desire, and has the ability to fulfill that desire, but needs to prove he has earned the right to enjoy said desire, else the payoff is minimal.

What you express is a grotesquely simplistic one-dimensional definition that allows only one way for two people to relate. Reality: There are mutitiudes of scenarios, each with subtle variations; not to mention the evolution that

inevitable takes place within the relationship between dom and sub.

>>The cuck's fetish is that he gets off to seeing his lover being deflowered by another man.

Again, an amusingly simplisitc concept: your assumtion fails in that not all cuckold worms are allowed to watch their SO having sex. I very rarely allow my husband to do that and when he does the "payback" (another silly

term in that the payback is whatever blows the hair back of BOTH parties.) is, at the minimum: he must worship my feet (yes, like many cuckolds he has foot fetish which I like becuse my toes are among my erogenous zones), he serves us drinks and snacks, fetches lube, etc. as well as does clean-up duty in the presence of my lover. At times I will allow him to be in the room up to the point the man begins to undress me…then I ask him to leave the room. Moreover, as my experience as a former Domme involved financial domination, and since I like my privacy and I feel that intimate romantic sex should be a private act between two people and not a theatrical performance, I

will allow a paying audience when I am in the mood, thus my cuckold must pay me for the privelege of indulging his scopophilia fetish. He must also pay me for the privelige of being inside me and pay an additional amount to

be allowed to cum. Since "watching" greatly arouses my cuckold, he does not balk when I make him pay for sex, even when I make him pay in front of another man. We call is "paying tribute". (Yes, I enjoy humiliating my subs.) Moreover, I do not work, but am not a typical "housewife either in that my cuckold subbie does all of the cooking, all of the shopping, most of the laundry and keeping floors clean–as well as any tasks I assign. His income from his businesses is turned

over to me as I am the head of the household. Apparently, in focusing on cuckoldry (which is but a small part of my marriage) you missed the part about our relationship being female-led.

>>The only viable method I can see cuckoldry functioning…

If that is "the only method" you can "see", then indeed you are a blind infant in need of mommy to instruct you.

"Bull"?? Geeze, you have been fapping to too many internet fantasies, haven't you? I do not have "bulls" and I would never dehumanize and degrade my beautiful lovers by referring to them as I would an animal. That type of

degradation I save for my subbies. Where did you get that disgusting term? You do not have to tell me, I already know.

More to come…

>>7556

>>7558

>>A real domme is one that gets turned on and derives sexual satisfaction from dominating a submissive guy. She doesn't need to be paid..

"A real domme"? Really infant? So what to you is a "real domme"? One that indulges all your fapping fantasies of what constitues a "real domme"? A woman who gets "turned on" only by the the things you feel are appropriate? Ha! I laugh at your drivel. I "turned on" by financially dominating a man. It is so easy to do and profitable. And I get turned on by humiliating my subs. And I get turned on by the rush of power I have over men in general and my husband in particular. I get turned on by being the dominant one in our marriage in every respect: household duties, finance, sex. And I certainly get "turned on" while on a date with a hot guy and enjoy the delightful totally hot satisfation of nights of being naked in his arms and savouring delicious love-making and pleasure with my lover whenever I desire it, with the additional satisfaction that a clean house and a nice hot meal will be waiting for me when I get home. Do you have a problem with that, child? Actually, I care not what your infantile definition of a "real domme" is. That is irrelevant to me and all the real-life dominant women like me who get our dominant thrills and our sexual needs fulfilled within the most enjoyable context of a female-led relationship that involves cuckoldry. The ultimate refutation of your concept of women like me not being a "real dommes" is that we, in real life and on ouor own terms, do dominate all aspects of our marriage, in the bedroom, at the bank, and in our homes in general. Lest you all go off on yet another foolish tangent, I love and adore my husband. I can easily replace his penis but not his great heart and keen mind. He is my prince and I am his Queen. My husband is a true submissive cuckold and is very happy in his role in our household. I am so glad to have found him as he is a rare find among men. I make sure that he is happy and I have the experience to keep him giddy with contentment as my sub. He does occasionally get a "break" from the routine and that can take many forms–his fave being when I bring home a little "treat" for him in the form of a voluptuous red-head (his favourite) or a blonde, or a brunette (or two). On occasion, I like to "watch too" (while calling the shots for two or more subs of course), but that is another topic for another day.

>>7561

No, child, not patronising, just true. I do not need to appear dominant to worms. Misogynistic worms usually have no soul and are no fun. I have no bulls, just lovers, most (but not all) of whom are subs–many of whom I also cuckold and financially dominate when the opportunity arises. "Bulls" are usually much too pig headed for my taste and usually think because they have a penis, they are the big bad boyz. I have no patience for ignorant worms.

Well, cookie, of course you would like to think that all women are submissive bitches to men. My, my…your silly childish fantasy does not match reality and will never do so no matter how hard you try to make it so. So, dear, close your little eyes, stamp your little feet and hold your little breath until you turn blue, but your ass-umptions about other people's relationships will only match your desired little fantasy and silly little dialogues when in fact they actually match and at no other time. In our case, your fantasy will just have to remain that, a misogenystic fapper's fantasy of "bulls" and "hotwives" and "bitches" and "sluts", derived from too much internet and not enough experience. Although I do consider myself to be a Slut, after the fashion of the book by Janet W. Hardy "The Ethical Slut: A Practical Guide…

I messaged my sweet cucky the URL to you your posting and even he had to laugh at your silliness.

I actually love the term "bitch", because when I have a flogger or paddle in hand I can and certainly do want to be just that…but not necessarily the way you would enjoy.

Contrary to your silly little concept, not all fin-dom$ need or even care about the money. As in all domination power exchanges, it is primarily all about the power and exchange thereof. One of my bff's is a F-500 exec making good $$. She has been into the fetish of FinDom since our college days. Submissive? Moi? Ok, if that

floats your fap boat, dear worm, go with it and enjoy it. I know I enjoy what I do and as far as my cute little alpha butt is concerned, that is what matters. Right, cookie? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ As far as the money being a big deal, my father, an alpha man who wanted to raise alpha daughters and was successful at it (I say this because my sisters are quite alpha as well) made sure before he died that we would never have to depend on any man in order to live comfortably. I just like taking men's money because, when they kneel and bow and hand it over to me…Well! The rush cannot be described! Breathtaking is apt but still falls well short. It's one of my bigtime kinks. Gives me goosebumps! Especially spending it. There are few rushes a dominant chic can have that compares to the rush I get spending a sub's money and buying myself nice things with the hard-earned money a sub had grovelled for the opportunity to put that money in my hands.

Goosebumps! What a rush!

>>3288

It's one thing to have a fantasy or a kink, but for fuck's sake, don't let it take over real life. Female-led anything will end in a disaster, unless it's something irrelevant like a book club. Women's natural role is that of support, not leadership. Just look at what it has done to Sweden. You don't want to be like Sweden, do you?

>>7565

>a guy who's eatan ass and pussy while getting dildo'd by his woman.

How do you find such a woman? Just normal dating and then trying to talk her into it, or can you tell from the outside that certain women are secretly dommes?

>Even on a personal basis dom in the bedroom is fine but ask the dom woman if she want's to work a field or do a 9-5 yob to pay all of the bills and that dominance will subside (most of the time).

Well, of course. The slave labour is the mens work, after all. :^)

Hot or not, it's already the truth.

Super super hot but not real life at all and I would want my actual relationship to be 50/50ish. I'm fine with my gf "wearing the pants" sometimes but I'm not a push over. I'm a sub not a sycophant.

>>7569

Go outside retard. Women are seriously oppressed in most of the world and even in more progressive countries there is a strong history of that.

>>7563

I've been to Sweden. Stockholm is felt like safest city I've ever been in and everyone was super helpful and friendly. You are confusing memes with reality.

>>7564

Sweden has had 200 years of peace (under male rule), which has let them accumulate the well-being to become a prosperous first-world country. Then they decided to give women the power and became Europe's rape-capital.

>>7573

Try Malmö.

>>7572

I wasn't talking about oppression, only that women are superior beings.

>>7572

>Women are seriously oppressed

Bullshit.

Women are overprivilged in the Western world. They need to be opressed again. FEmdom is just a MALE fantasy, real women are 99% submissive and all attracted to a minority of men. The rest they want to shame and lock away for daring to have a sexuality at all. Bring back the patriarchy: that won't get you a domme gf (you don't have one now, too, because women are submissive and not as diverse as men) but at least you won't have to deal with all that hysterical feminism and rape bullshit and can get a good job adn then at least afford to pay one of these prostituts who LARP as "tehehe, I'm a real domme, I submit to my alpha bull but taht doesn't mean I' ma fake domme, tehehe, who are you to define what "Real" is anyway, tehehe, now give me money, paypig, tehe."

>>7667

If you want to live in a hardcore patriachy just move to the middle east or africa. I doubt you will though, as that would involve going outside.

>>7696

Women are more than willing to bring the Middle East and Africa to the West, so I wouldn't even have to move there. And if they'd finish off feminists and cucks here I'd be happy about it.

>>7696

I'd rather recreate Western patriarchy, it was certainly more successful then the bullshit they have going on in Africa or Asia.

Lol at the larping.

>>3288

Most relationships are female led, but even then women are still mostly subs in bed. What I'd want is equal, but dom in the bedroom.

>>7734

Women are sexually submissive. Femdom is a male fantasy. 99% of women are more or less submissive sexually and the remaining 1% are just doing it for the money and/or "like" submissive men the way they like gay men: as an accessory while loving and desiring only "real" men, the "alpha" males they want to fuck.

In a male-dominated society, you still don't find your "gentle domme gf" or whatever, which is just a MEME anyway, but at least you don't have to deal with all the feminist BULLSHIT you have to live with today.

And the more feminist women are the more sexually masochist they become anyway.

I'd rather be single in a healthy patriarchy or pay a hooker "domme" than live in a feminist shit hole were women turn 50 shades of grey into the new female bible, spend all day on tinder waiting for some guy to BDSM torture them and then sperg about "rape culture" and "toxic masculinity" shit all day.

>>7817

This.

The anon who wrote >>7734 is in a deluded fantasy. I want to maintain a male-dominant social structure because it's actually functional. Fuck your personal fantasies, in a female-dominated society women would be bitter, angry, and destructive.

>>7564

It's like what Ludwig von Mises said about socialism. You want heat (prosperity), and you're burning your house (hard-earned prosperity) down to get it. Sure, you'll get heat, but only for a while and afterwards you'll have one less house. Sweden is, in many ways, burning down their house right now. It looks glorious and they're absolutely very toasty and /comfy/ right now, but sooner or later their house will be gone.

holy shit I can't even look at porn anymore without you fucking lunatics talking about soshalists

>>10674

they went full /pol/nigger. never go full /pol/nigger