/f1/ - Formula One

>>6984

Pretty good driver for a music enthusiast, if he was more interested in driving than music he'd be forever GOAT for sure. Moss is just old racist trying to rationalize his dislike of Louise with irrelevant nonsense like that.

>>6984

I love it! I knew the old geezer couldn't seriously do any of the mercedes press events with this poser gangbanger.

Moss' sexist comments about female drivers aren't entirely misplaced though. There have been a decent amount of female drivers that made it up to top series in racing and nearly all of them are well below par. Aside from Michelle Mouton, Divina Galica, and Simona de Silvestro, and mayyyybe Danica Patrick, who else is there that has ever impressed?

That's really a small number for half the human race. Not to mention that women have been racing in grand prix racing since before it was F1. Additionally, Women are often better sponsored (Lella Lombardi brought a title sponsor, Lavazza to March and was completely outclassed by Brambilla).

Long story straight: Moss might be being a bit brusque in his discussion of female drivers and might be applying his own reasoning, but at the end of the day, he's not entirely wrong about female drivers underwhelming relative to their male counterparts.

Sorry, I'm like an expert on the wimminz drivers.

>>6987

they seem to forget that Jody Scheckter was the last formula 1 world champion for ferrari until 1998. 19 years without a driver's champion. This is the formula 1 equivalent of shouting "1918" to boston red sox fans (as the team hadn't won since then).

http://www.gpupdate.net/en/f1-news/324964/hembery-free-tyre-choice-impossible/

> Pirelli Motorsport Director Paul Hembery says the suggestion of Formula 1 teams choosing their preferred tyre compounds ahead of races would be "impossible" for the sport's sole supplier to implement.

>Force India's Otmar Szafnauer recently proposed that teams themselves could pick the two compounds they want to use at each race to add another strategy variable.

>Pirelli currently makes the Option and Prime allocations for all rounds from its dry-weather range, which is made up of Super Soft, Soft, Medium and Hard rubber.

>"First you have to make sure that all the teams agree to any new proposal – which is never easy – and in this scenario, you would also have to make sure that all the teams are making responsible choices," said Hembery, when GPUpdate.net asked if the idea is feasible.

>"You might find that some of the teams qualifying towards the back of the grid are constantly nominating the Super Soft, and there are some situations where that clearly wouldn't be suitable over a race distance.

>"But there is also a logistical element that makes it impossible to do."

WOW that's profoundly retarded

No shit the teams in the back will pick the super hard or super soft tires, that's how tire strategy works and that's how teams did it for years.

>b-b-but the teams might not make responsible choices!

are you their mother?

>what about the scary logistical challenge i mentioned but failed to name

>>6992

I get the thing about responsible choice because clearly at some tracks a supersoft would be like Indy 2005 and some team would crash hard, wouldn't be able to race and Pirelli would get shit for it even though the team picked the tyres.

Logistically I wonder if Pirelli produce tyres in batch form and so having to produce tyres to order for the whole grid at each race would be a big change.

I don't personally think it's going to produce any better racing. More likely to make it worse to be honest.

>>6992

I really think they should go to 'old school' rules.

Get a single tire supplier like GoodYear. They bring -ONE- type of tire to the track. You can use as many sets as you'd like, but there's only one compound.

Engines? Pfft. Bring whatever. In the late 80's / early 90's manufacturers built whatever they felt like.

In 1990, four teams won:

> McLaren (Honda V10)

> Ferrari (V12)

> Williams (Renault V10)

> Benetton (Ford V8)

The '94 Benetton won with a Ford V8 over Williams (Renault V10) and Ferrari V12.

The '88 McLaren dominated with a turbo V6 against turbo V8's, V10's and V12's.

And go back to the 60 minute qualifying system.

>>6996

>And go back to the 60 minute qualifying system.

No. Everything else was fine until that. The new version is so much better to watch on television and at track.

The only reason to go back would be to make qualifying worse and so it is guaranteed to be more boring than the race.

I'm glad I went to Spa 2013 not because the race was good (it wasn't, it was a terrible race with only interesting things being vettel passing hamilton on the first lap and pastor crashing into di resta at the chicane) but because quali was so good to watch.

Declaring these digits in the name of Lewis HamilGOAT

>>6999

As well as these.

Just imagine if fourthberg was to get a legit win against Hamilton.

No Hamilton failures in quali or the race. Seventhberg just beats him in pure skill on track.

It could really swing the championship in fourteenthbergs favour. Given him the momentum to fight.

Lauada did tell Startfrompitlaneandretirewithenginefailureberg to just restart the season at Spain and ignore all previous results so maybe it could happen.

>>6996

I don't like the 60 minute qualifying, but you are on the right track. The qualifying with the two sessions in which drivers could do only 12 laps was great. Yes I agree it was shittier to watch on tv (but you guys watch practice so its not that bad) but the thing is qualifying had much better strategy and the grid was much more often tossed up.

Also why have on tire supplier? Competition will make tires cheaper and better.

The issues in the past with one tire supplier dominating is the result of forcing the suppliers to homologate each compound for the season and prevent them from changing them in season to improve reliability and safety.

>>7006

Yeah this is the best idea. Look at the 1990 us gp at phoenix as an excellent example of it organically (not artificially) shuffling the grid.

>>6994

I'm fairly certain that Pirelli produces them in batch form anyway and then just hems and haws about needing time to prepare them and thinking so hard about which ones are right to bring to the track to make it seem like they're working harder than they are. It's not fucking complicated.

>>7006

I'm more interested in the compound than the supplier.

GoodYear produced rocks. Throw them on and go: no fucks were given.

I dislike the need for two types of tires. Let teams do whatever they want. Don't stifle their strategies.

Deregulation would lead to better competition, IMO.

>>7009

>Deregulation would lead to better competition, IMO.

HE GETS IT!

>>7009

>>7006

Why have official tyre suppliers?

Why not just put in some safety rules about tyres (pressure, side wall thickness, enough to guarantee safety) and then let the team turn up with something?

>>7010

My first post advocated going back to laize faire engine regs. Wasn't the "deregulation" implied…?

>>7012

I'm only hesitant because of '05.

Michelin built a tire that had a chemical compound that the Bridgestone tire couldn't work with effectively, if I recall correctly.

Put into simpler terms, I'd rather take the tire variable out of the equation. Everyone uses the same rubber, so you have a more honest competition between teams.

>>7013

*laissez faire.

>>7012

multiple tire suppliers is effectively that (i.e. the suppliers arent being signed by the FIA, they're the companies that the teams signed with). For years that was the case and it worked well enough.

>>7013

It's not meant to be as if i were disagreeing with you. Sorry if i made it sound like that. It's just a fight that F1 keeps having and to see someone get that most basic concept was cool.

Regarding '05, the teams should be free to upgrade and improve the tire during the year. If that doesn't solve the problem look at the economics of it: it will reach near equilibrium after a year or so, and if it doesn't a structurally free system would allow teams to choose another tire supplier.

>>7013

>Everyone uses the same rubber, so you have a more honest competition between teams.

But we don't like the current tyre rules because everyone has the same two compounds………….

I personally don't mind what the FIA is getting pirelli to do because having one rock hard set is just going to lead to the best car on those tyres winning every race and it will be boring.

If you had more asymmetrical performance in the cars I would prefer a proper racing tyre that doesn't degrade but the cars now are all similar in how they deliver their performance, some are just slower.

WEC demonstrates this perfectly.

>>7016

You have the answer: free up the car regs, and then free up the tire regs.

>>7017

You just have to get the teams to agree to it

That is the impossible part.

>>7019

A system based on recent constructors championship standings with a minor bonus for teams that have kept their entry for 30 plus years seems like the most logical option.

Also, this will sound ridiculous, but what about bringing back prize money for race wins? Is it so strange an idea? When did they stop doing that? Grand prix racing is a bit of a misnomer otherwise.

>>7019

Lotus is broke as shit, im suprised they can even compete.

>>7018

Someone even slightly more competent than jean todt would be able to do it. Honestly its good for the teams, lets the small teams get performance, rewards the big teams in making better use of their resources among other things.

>>7021

Gerard Lopez is made of money, Matthew Carter is finding pay drivers to put in the simulator, and the lotus car company is likely a significant part of its its debt guarantees

>>7020

Also, this will sound ridiculous, but what about bringing back prize money for race wins?

Awarding money per race would be great for some teams as they are having cash flow problems.

Also what would be the difference between first and last in prize money terms?

$202m to $10m is way too extreme

>>7022

>rewards the big teams in making better use of their resources among other things.

Yes but that means teams will gain and the other big teams would rather sacrifice themselves and everyone else then let anything change and another team ascend.

What we need is to completely get rid of the teams having any say in the rulemaking. Why they were allowed in the first place is beyond me and if they don't want to relinquish that power they can split and form their own series and we can watch the whole thing die.

>>7024

Agreed that that is too much of a gap in payout. All teams should probably be getting a bigger cut, but that's a cvc/bernie problem. I'm less concerned about the gap, more concerned about minimum payout. It should be considered that auto manufacturer teams dont necessarily have their budget determined by the winnings of the previous year.

In the united states we have a problem called "legislating from the bench" where judges reinterpret laws for political gain for laws they couldn't make or remove through congress. This is a huge problem because it means that the law enforced is not necessarily the one voted in, and it also makes a conflict of interest when judging should be impartial.

What this has to do with f1 is that teams shouldn't be part of the rule making process, but they have been because the FIA has failed to make a successful and long lived formula since the 3 liter/1.5 liter/3.5 liter days and they've been given control so they don't leave f1. ==As such, teams are for and against rules on a case by case basis depending on whether it would benefit them, not based on whether it's the correct one==

Examples: Sauber and force India getting FRIC banned (for a rule it didnt violate) because they had a shitty fric system.

Teams banning the lotus 88 despite the twin chassis ground effect aero being legal.

Ironically people will bitch for ages about how wanting a new formula now is sour grapes from Renault fans, despite that being a good move (even if were motivated by the same logic)

>>7026

wow, a fucking legal treatise. And cuckchan thinks we're nothing but wagposters.

(I agree with this legal treatise though)

Stream starting in 10 bings. Pre stream starting now.

Https://cytu.be/r/8chanF1

pre stream continuing until someone who said they'd watch actually does.

>>7033

and race starting now

>>7035

Im in here, other people come in here, pls, i am lonely, and my roomate is playing Rance its crreeepy

Spa tomorrow woou!

>>7038

make a thread.

>>7038

Just over 6 bongs to go

HYPE

>>7038

>>7040

Look a WEC thread!

>>7041

>>6991

holy shit I forgot about Hakkinen. Jody Scheckter (1979) was ferrari's last championship winning driver until 2000!

>>7045

Oh I remember that! wasn't that 1999 at monza? when he crashed into the bushes?

>>7046

>wasn't that 1999 at monza?

Yes.

>>7046

when he crashed into the bushes?

Nope.

Dropped down to first gear instead of second braking in to variante della roggia (chicane after curve grande), which I suspect blew the engine.

He then stormed off full of anger, which turned to tears when he was behind a bush and thought he was out of sight.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xypmf5_mika-hakkinen-monza-1999-matti-kyllonen-mtv3_auto

>>7047

I miss free live coverage of F1 in MTV3.

>>7071

When did they stop? Does Mika salo still commentate for them?

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-277571.html

>Yet another voice has been added to concerns that formula one must change its rules to stop them "killing" the sport.

>The powerful Strategy Group will meet in May and it is expected the headline agenda item will be a sharp change of direction for F1 in 2017.

>Smaller teams are struggling to survive, bigger teams are struggling for success in the new 'power unit' era, while fans and promoters are calling for the cars to appear, drive and sound more aggressive.

>And now, former F1 driver and current FIA steward, Briton Derek Warwick, says rules like those mandating long-life gearboxes and engines are "killing the sport for TV and spectators".

>"Most of them (the drivers) are only doing 10 laps in practice because they are saving something – whether it be engine, power unit, gearboxes," he is quoted by Sportal.

>"So they (the rules) are kind of backfiring a little bit, the principle is right but something needs to change to make F1 exciting, to make the drivers look like gladiators."

>Instead, Warwick argues, the stars of the show have become little more than "polished PR machines", while the cars allow teenagers like Max Verstappen to leap almost straight from karting to F1 points.

>In contrast, the cars of old were "animals", Warwick said.

>"We had 1,600 horse power and downforce that made your eyes pop out," said the 60-year-old, who raced throughout the 80s.

>"(Today) you see them doing a test and within ten laps they are two tenths off the lead driver. That didn't happen in my day, therefore these cars must be easier to drive," Warwick said.

>"We just need to take a step back, have a good look at ourselves before it is too late."

>>7081

They shoved all the live F1 broadcasts to the channels you need a card somewhere during the mid-to-late 2000s. As for Salo, he left back in 2013.

>>7084

Oh that blows

>>7086

Well, it's run by Bonnier Media which is a company of Swedish kikes so what was anyone else expecting of them?

>>7087

Swefag here. Sorry to hear about our kikes ruining F1.

>>7083

Agreed.

You don't even need 1,600 horsepower.

Allow refueling and the cars will run 5-8 seconds a lap faster.

De-regulate the engines and see what happens.

Hell, just go back to '03 rules where engines had to last a whole weekend. Or, go back to '02, when you could use as many as you wanted.

> More rules added

> More expensive

Seems like a simple, corollary concept, no?

>>7091

you've got the idea. We do need to go back to a displacement based formula though. That's the only thing that's ever been fair.

>>7091

02 was about the time shit started getting way too expensive and teams had the highest budgets.

An open formula (whatever that may be) should in theory be better at reducing costs.

I don't want refuelling back though. I never liked it and not bringing the heavy refuelling rigs all around the world is a fine way to cut costs.

>>7092

Why restrict displacement? Why not allow that to also be open?

>>7093

>>7093

refuelling made for some great strategic battles though, I wouldn't mind it coming back

>>7093

the refueling rig transportation is a trivial cost. If half the races werent in durka durkistan that cost would be saved anyway.

F1 has always been a displacement based formula. You have 3 liters na or 1.5 liters turbo charged (2.5 bars of boost) and have to make the most of that.

Without displacement rules (which f1 has had for its entire existence) fuel or other consumables would need to be limited, otherwise there would be no way to keep the cars in the same performance class.

If F1 had fuel limits and no displacement regulation it would be Group C/LeMans/can am, not F1.

Who /mayweather v pacquiao/ here?

>>7095

tl;dr can am would happen and basically whoever made a larger engine won for a while until someone with a larger one showed up.

>>7098

What would gropepunch have to do with Berniewheel?

>>7099

honestly I was underwhelmed by the gropepunch event. At least I expect berniewheel to suck, and am pleasantly surprised when it doesn't.

>>7100

I applaud them for pulling off the biggest scam in sporting history, though.

>Hype up this fight as "fight of the century"

>Actually bump up the PPV price to one hundred dollarydoos

>Prey on the casuals who don't even watch boxing

>End up selling out within a minute tickets wise, with scalpers charing upwards of ten thousand dollars a seat

>PPV orders to high they actually slow down the ordering process

>Fight turns out to be another predictable Mayweather fight, with him running around all fight and still scoring perfect tens

And people legitimately bought into this false hype. Honestly they deserve what they got.

>>7101

more or less what happens with mayweather's defensive style. That said. I still expected more aggression from pacquiao even if it ultimately didnt form a winning strategy.

Yeah I went to the bar. Wasn't going to eat that cost on my own.

>>7104

https://instagram.com/p/2M_uS0r0xQ/

hamilnigger went

>>7106

When you're a NEET and not by choice it's like crack, you need it to stay in touch and get basic contact, but it also exposes you to primarily the worst part of all those people.

Holy shit am I depressed

>blogging sorry

>>7107

I can't bring myself to use Twitter or Facebook, even if it gives me direct contact to friends. The normalfaggotry on there makes my anus pucker with spite.

>>7108

when you have literally nothing else to do, you recede into old, bad habits

>>7106

I should probably have them for WAGposting but I just never get round to making them and subscribing to everyone.

What was so special about this battle thing that every place was filled with it?

>spic and nigger dwarfs are put in a cage and battled against each other

>people literally are paying to see that freak show

Wtf

>>7114

They've been trying to make this fight happen for 5+ years. I didn't think it would actually happen, so it was interesting to watch.

In the meantime, some cool onboard footage from the 90s

>>7120

Thanks for the awesome 1990s Fuji tv footage anon!

>RIP old jerez

>>7122

I also love this one. Yes thats correct: A Tyrell is challenging a Mclaren for the lead.

>>7127

That fight went on longer than expected.

Does anyone want to watch videos on the Https://Cytu.be/r/8chanf1 stream? Burgermeister set it up so that it plays car videos even when he's not logged in.

>>7139

Id be down to doing that in about 2 hours or so (sry for wait).

In the mean time here's a link to a youtube channel which has a lot of good archived Japanese season reviews. I'd watch it if anything for the great on board shots.

>>7142

Link? Where is it?

>>7143

>Thinking there ever was a link.

>>7143

You never even had your car

>>7126

Depends, did he go thru the mandatory military service or was he a sivari?

>have a video of Räikkönen as an NCO doing drill shit back in the day

>>7146

Lolwut?

>>7147

Sivari?

>>7149

Look at you, granny shiftin', not double clutchin' like you should.

>>7149

conscientious objector

>>7149

>>7151

Sivari is civil service, objectors get prison.

>>7153

>>7147

According to an interview in F1 Racing last year he said he enjoyed his military training.

>>7154

I did now look up what he did and he got into the special program for athletes. He's essentially gonna do some operator shit in a long-range patrol/SF unit in case of SHTF.

>>7155

Do you think he passed on any skills to Emilia?

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In a waiting room while my wheel alignment is being done.

Guy just came out to tell me the technology says he can't stop it pulling to the right because the control arm caster bushes "aren't the same".

Meanwhile, they're identical, and installed correctly.

He literally has no fucking idea what he's talking about.

>>7161

I think your phone is communicating through the images

>>7159

what car do you have? I swear everyone in the chain service shops is a tard.

>>7161

oekaki lets you draw shit, you must have hit the button for that.

>>7163

E36 BMW

>>7164

cool. I saw one of those today, but it was a slushbox model like most in the us.

Reminder: this was what it looked like 20 years ago.

Mika Hakkinen and Jean Alesi in a single video, by the way.

>>7171

lol everyone locks up at spoon.

So fast! I love it. This is *after* they fucked up and de stroked the engines to 3 liters from 3.5

>look on tv for some auto racing

>guide shows dtm hockenheim

>why not.jpg

>tune in to CBS sports network

>PBR Ford Built Tough Bull Riding

>scratch head

>>7175

what channel is that?

>>7174

>CBS

so that's why they geoblocked the DTM youtube to usa partway into the season last year

>>7176

Fuck if I know, it's some public broadcast station I think.

Part of me wants to believe it's a shady TV station done up in some neckbear's basement for shits and giggles that somehow found leverage to make it onto DirecTV.

>>7177

>plot thickens

>>7178

Ghetto public access tv

>le obvious reference to videodrome movie

like this but for motorsport ahahah

Basic cable commercials and broadcasts being so bootleg is a huge amount of fun.

>>7153

Are you serious? That's incredibly shitty if true. No one should be forced into military service

>McLaren and Tag Heuer creating a Senna hologram on stage

That is weird

>>7187

I know it's just the idea of making a 'hologram' of a dead guy to sell some watches that feels weird

>>7188

All these commercials with dead people shilling things feel wrong and disrespectful.

>>7217

>muh japanese motor made from glorious nipponese steel

jk, thanks for posting.

>>7219

Oh good, i prefer to read.

>>7220

it's a pretty interesting layout especially everyone trying to figure out the compressor

a knock-on I notice is if they allowed a lot more fuel rate for qualy or in place of DRS it would probably fuck Honda because that thing is probably not good for really high boost

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completely separate: variable inlet trumpets for Ferrari coming this week?

>>7222

arent variable intake systems banned?

>>7224

last year they were but not now

found the news bite again, supposedly the big token spend for ferrari is for canadia not spain after all

>>7181

Sivari is then for you. They do nursing and other assorted services that various religious organizations don't have their sticks up their asses about.

Those who do end up being full-blown objectors are almost always try-hard anarchists and other 3edgy5me faggots who still miss the Soviet Union.

>>7234

>Those who do end up being full-blown objectors are almost always try-hard anarchists and other 3edgy5me faggots who still miss the Soviet Union.

HAHAHAH

How long is the mandatory service?

>>7236

Civilian service is about a year, Military is 6 to 12 months depending on what you are planning to do.

>>7239

That's not even that shitty. Interesting. Thanks for the insight.

soo… did i miss the race you guys streamed the other day?

>>7264

The one on Friday, yes. It was at 9pm east coast time. We had to delay it BC other people forgot to show.

>>7264

The stream is set up to show car videos even when the mod isn't logged on.

>>7266

In on it right now if anyones interesting

>>7267

A link for those who are interested

https://cytu.be/r/8chanF1

>>7265

>>7266

>>7267

>>7268

alright, cool.

>>7234

>Sivari is then for you. They do nursing and other assorted services that various religious organizations don't have their sticks up their asses about.

You can do any work you can get, it doesn't have to be related to that.

>>7181

You can get away with it quite easily, like simply saying you use cannabis or are feeling bit depressed or anxious.

The funny thing is it only concerns men, and no feminist is noting this severe equality problem at all. Like they find anything else to complain about, but the largest. most obvious and very real inequal treatment casted by state is no problem for them at all.

>mercedes being cunts

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/plans-for-fifth-engine-set-to-be-scrapped

"There will be no fifth engine," Lauda told Austrian news agency APA. "You cannot change the regulations in the middle of a season."

"We unanimously agreed on it in Malaysia," Horner said.

"That was all the teams, including Bernie Ecclestone, so it only has to formally go through the Strategy Group and permission to be signed, and that can be done by fax vote."

>>7272

The leading team are always cunts when it comes to using politics to protect their advantage. No exceptions.

>the people who hated on Red Bull when they did it were just newfags with no knowledge of F1's history

>>7270

To be honest, feminism, at least in the united states isn't even about equality or anything: It's about taking a woman's dependency on a father, a husband, or herself and replacing it with reliance on the state.

>>7272

Gay

>>7273

I can think of plenty who were far better than others about it.

>>7275 It keeps getting suggested that we do a stream of a classic race in between sessions. When would that be?

>>7277

At least the cigarette companies actually paid money and made colorful liveries.

Wow for a 3rd rate car this sounds amazing

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>>7283

I bet seeing those Penske cars on his return to CART was triggering for michael.

>>7280

well, who'd think a company that sells a product that kills people is good at marketing

>>7287

Makes sense. For as long as that product is legal, they should be able to advertise it.

>>7288

Go tell that to the advertising standards boards around the world

>>7289

do they have a comment box ;) ?

>>7290

I think it is the FTC that regulates advertising in America

Have fun

>>7291

>Recently, even further restrictions took effect under the newly enacted Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act. Effective 22 June 2010, the new regulations prohibit tobacco companies from sponsoring sports, music, and other cultural events. Also, tobacco companies can no longer display their logos or advertise their products on T-shirts, hats, or other apparel. Eventually, the law is planned to require almost all tobacco advertisements to consist of black text on a white background, but the constitutionality of that requirement has come under scrutiny.

Land of the free and home of the fat people.

>>7292

>home of the fat people.

Their days are numbered as well.

Don't think this will stop at tobacco. It will move on to alcohol, fast food & energy drinks soon enough.

Red Bull will do what Marlboro currently does with Phillip Morris

>>7293

>Implying americans need any of these things to be hamplanets

>>7294

They won't need them when they are forced to cycle on exercise bikes to create electricity.

>>7276

People that give a shit need to answer this. I would prefer a time that isn't impossible for an east coast murrican

>>7302

yup nigga.

>7276

I'd watch it instead of any formula e gp2 or gp3 session. I guess we need 2 hours time.

>>7302

>after 2 weeks

3 weeks!

>>7302

>every team with identical noses except Ferrari

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/118806

"I think they increased their engine by about 45 horsepower, so my estimate at the moment is that they have the same power Mercedes has." -Lauda

lets hope that's correct and not just a case of "pls don't regulate our engine, we totally don't have a massive power advantage"

>>7310

after they lost in malaysia toto wolff said something like "I hope this kills any discussion of equalization or change of engine" which led me to believe that this is all a scheme.

>>7308

>predatory

>creepy hunchbacked mannerisms

>bald

>old

>cradle-snatches drivers

Ron Dennis confirmed for pedophile.

>>7308

gotta do something to take the attention off the woeful season they are having.

Ron has been backtracking a lot on his preseason comments too about being competitive. Even I could feel as an enthusiast that McLaren weren't going to be anywhere other than midfield based on past form and new engine, and even that was best case scenario.Honda also got strong armed into compromising too much for the packaging. But I'm sure they are still happy with all that floor space they can't do anything with other than overcook everything in the car.

Williams did an extreme gearbox design a few years ago to save space at the back, no one else copied them.

RedBull could utilize that floor space as they had a supercharged rear diffuser during the EBD and coanda exhaust phases. Having that much floor space is okay but the compromises in the engines in now an engine formula is biting both RBR and McLaren.

>>7315

All the sennafags/plebbitors were wetting their beds over this. Honda makes shitty racing engines, McLaren makes shitty chassis; it isn't the 90s anymore.

Having a compromise engine (fewer cylinders, different bank angle or configuration) in order to have chassis advantages was a viable strategy for years (look at how many races/championships have been won by British teams with the cosworth engines when they were far from most powerful on the grid). Now that there is no freedom in the chassis, engine, transmission, and tires, you have to have the most powerful engine or you're fucked.

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>Go on Facebook bc bored

>see newsfeed is 90% social justice

>read one post where a girl I know is repeatedly writing hate mail to the editor of a shitty magazine where a writer wrote an opinion piece stating that rape culture doesn't exist

>think: it's an opinion piece and is clearly marked as such

>see 62+ comments commending her for being brave, for standing up for what's right, for being a good feminist woman

$$WTF$$

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-278137.html

Lotus now ready to join 'second group'

>Lotus thinks it is ready to join the action in the "second group" behind the title-warring Mercedes and Ferrari.

>Like most teams, the Enstone camp has brought what driver Romain Grosjean refers to as a "major upgrade" for its 2015 car to Barcelona.

>"Unlike last year, we now have a car that allows development," the French driver is quoted by Brazil's Globo. "I want to come up right behind (Daniel) Ricciardo.

>"Our goal is to fight with Red Bull."

>Australian Ricciardo, driving for Red Bull, is currently 'best of the rest' in the championship behind all of the Mercedes, Ferrari and Williams drivers.

>But Williams' technical boss Pat Symonds says he is not worried about the threat posed by Lotus.

>"No," he told Britain's Sky. "Like many teams, they really are quite tight on budget and therefore I think the development they'll be able to do is somewhat limited."

>Lotus' deputy boss Federico Gastaldi, however, begs to differ, insisting the black and gold-liveried team is now ready to join the 'second group' in 2015.

>"I believe that Williams, Red Bull and ourselves will fight for the positions behind Mercedes and Ferrari, who are still quite a long way in front," he said.

>>7317

>Woman interjecting her wrong opinions into matters that don't concern her.

Color me not surprised.

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/352ixs/im_pat_symonds_williams_f1_chief_technical/cr0bjp6

>If you could go back in time and create a permanent rule in F1, what would it be?

This is what the authoritarians on plebbit actually think.

https://youtu.be/tcPgE40t4dc?t=102

>tfw 3 liter cars could sound like this.

>>7334

Given the FIA's ability to write rules and how modern manufacturers want to go they would probably end up sounding closer to this

>>7322

when did they stop doing wreaths anyway?

>>7338

I imagine mid eighties. Just after the FISA-FOCA war

>>7339

>>7338

I was right. 1986 Italian GP seemed to be the last one.

I imagine they stopped it because it covered the logos on the overalls

>>7335

in 1989 they wanted to ban all engines except a 3 liter v8 of a defined bank angle, number of cylinders, bore and stroke. Ferrari built the 637 (a running and driving car) and threatened to quit f1 and go to CART.

The FIA then changed the rules so that all 3.5 liter piston engines were allowed.

The moral of the story is that manufacturers and the FIA don't have a fucking clue despite years of doing it right.

Every team that threatened to quit because of the 3.5 liter formula did not do so, and 1989 had a near record 20 teams entered because of the open regulations

>>7341

tl;dr manufacturers will enter no matter what as long as it is popular.

Renault has quit F1 3 times.

>>7341

And 7 engine suppliers were involved in the first year of the 3.5 liter formula

>>7340

we'd probably get wreaths made entirely of plastic santander logos

>>7352

Nigga that's a DANK ASS Button meme there.

I'd give it a 7/10 on the dankness scale.

>>7353

I love how it's completely irreverent to the post.

>thinking your maymay is so ebin that you don't even need a reason to post it

>>7354

When you have dankness on such an extravagant scale such as that, you need to get it out there through any means possible.

>>7359

Reddit won't be able to handle this level of dankness.

http://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/new-camera-to-cover-alonso-crash-corner

new camera to get a better view when Alonso parks the car

>>7373

Ron's not going to like that

http://paddocktalk.com/news/html/story-278196.html

Pirelli to go soft to spice up F1 - Hembery

>Pirelli is aiming to spice up races by leaning towards soft-compound tyre choices as the 2015 season progresses.

>Having faced intense criticism of its deliberately heavily-degrading tyres of the past, F1's official supplier went notably more conservative for the start of the new 'power unit' era last year.

>Pirelli vowed to ramp down that conservatism for this year as experience of the new regulations increases, but chief Paul Hembery acknowledged that the target of mainly three-stop races has yet to be achieved.

>"We aim to bring the softer compounds (to races) more and more," he told Finland's Turun Sanomat newspaper, "and in particular we want to be using the super-soft.

>"Maybe we should have taken that tyre to Bahrain," Hembery added, "as it would have meant a three-stop race."

>However, Lotus engineer Mark Slade says that, as far as Pirelli's approach to F1 goes, things have changed since Kimi Raikkonen was winning races for the Enstone team with ultra-soft tyres in 2012 and 2013.

>"Even if they still call them 'super-soft'," he said, "they really are just soft compounds. The names have changed but the tyres are harder now."

>Slade said he doubts Pirelli is really shaping up to change its current approach to F1.

>"I don't think they're going to make radical changes," said the Briton, "as they are satisfied with the current situation."

>>7394

>Don't have to get up early

Getting up at 1-5 A.M. isn't early for you?

>>7405

Y-You Too, Buttass.

>autism

>>7408

Y..y..yeah autism. I was never part of any virtual racing leagues on F1Rejects….

>>7408

The fuck am I watching?

>>7409

You were on F1 rejects?! hahahah.

Shame that GPrejects has no traffic now. I used to love their reject profiles.

>>7410

good question

>>7410

A.I racing series with commentary

I'm trying to find an English commentary series because they were truly autistic. You had a budget and could bid for cars, & drivers and buy upgrades.

Someone would put this all into an rFactor mod and simulate a race, sometimes streaming it.

It's like GP manager really

>>7413

That would be cool without the autism.

>>7413

A modern F1 manager game would be pretty cool, if someone would be able to get a license and publish it.

>FP1 is in like 5 hours(?)

>i'm not in bed sleeping to wake up

day of headaches and sleepiness during the day lay ahead for me.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UokNPvi5Tfk

>Alonso wearing sunglasses through the entire thing

Is he trying to outmeme kimi

Also,

>seconberg seated in the second row

>>7419

>35:30

>Nico has already answered the question but asks for another turn to say his thanks to Mercedes-Benz©® engine

Petronasberg strikes again

>>7422

But if you look like a homeless bum, won't people leave you alone?

>>7423

no the actual homeless bums who all have their own begging turf will jump me

I can probably take two or three of them with my elite fighting skills but I don't want tetanus

>>7424

I put it off till today then overslept man

also

>spicy nacho doritos at supermarket 2 for $5

>spicy nacho doritos at ghetto 24hr shop 1 for $4.59

FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings

FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings

FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings

FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings

$$FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings$$

FP1 in 2 bongs 45 bings

>>7428

>Jacking up a car like that without any stands

It's like he literally has a death wish.

>Literally ONE BONG 30 BINGS from FP1

>Very little thread activity

Y'all niggas better pile in for some MWL

>>7430

ready nigga

>>7432

world class

>>7433

it's like watching gulf war II when all those cnn cunts were doing their reports over their sat phones

Gonna pass our BC too late burgertime

>>7434

lel

36 BINGS AND 12 MICRO BINGS UNTIL FP1, FRIENDS.

>>7439

HYPE

jesus who invented scottish people

you ready for the fight today?

>>7443

Last fight I was ready for left me immensely disappointed, so no.

>it's good to be back here

look how cute they are trying to pretend they aren't all sick of this place

>>7445

Fuck you, nerd. Catalunya is god tier.

morning

>>7448

Yes, hello.

CATALUNYA NIGGAS, GET HYPE.

>ant davishit

practice runed

>>7447

Sky: he should be happy he's allowed to be third, why would he even want to win if he's against the almighty god king Hamilton

>Anthony Cuckinson

SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT SOILED IT

>Hughes acting as if the medium and hard compound is gonna even be remotely the same here as it was in Malaysia

Who lets this retard give "practice pointers?"

crofty *could* read out the whole power unit table but he'd rather clear time for tweets

>>7455

Ant did rek him though when he claimed that RB had used all their "power units"

>yfw Anthony goes around the grid on race day and starts protesting the use of grid girls as misogynistic and archaic while donning his pink button up with a feminism pin on his sleeve.

>people talking shit about reigning WEC champion

Cunts

>Perez

>>7459

And rightfully so.

Wait what? Wolff is on track?

Why isn't Sky hugging her proverbial nuts?

is ace stream death?

>>7464

I literally wasn't even aware she was racing until Crofty read off the time and I saw she was near the bottom, KEKE.

>>7464

>SeriousRacingDriver.jpg

>Be woman

>Instantly be 3 seconds off the pace

>>7464

Please love me Claire.

>>7468

Claire seems like she'd be very motherly.

>Will Stevens cleaning his helmet on cam

>Last Marussia driver to be catch cleaning his helmet on cam went on to become a potato

RIP

It's got to the point where I might honestly watch the stream without the sound so I don't have to listen to Crofty and Ted

once again spend almost entire session fucking with streams

Does hennostream show practices? Has he sent the passwords yet?

>>7473

Nigga, the fuck are you going for streams? My shit never goes down.

>>7472

>Muted it and put on BBC 5 live radio

>Stream is synced literally perfectly

This is nice

>>7475

I don't have flash installed so literally everything is an exercise in why doesn't this work it should work oh it's working oh wait no now it's not why isn't it

>>7477

Why the fuck not?

>>7476

link?

>>7474

No pass on this link apparently Stream http://henno.info/

>on my phone, haven't tested it

>>7478

I think you would have to use hola

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/formula1/32458112

And I'm using some terrible quality but reliable stream on cricfree

>BBC start interviewing Jenson

>Sky stream has an interview with Jenson

Seriously what the fuck this is perfect.

>Renault in charge of reliability

Crofty with his fucking rulebook again, GOD DAMN IT.

>Rosberg

>Put the audio on the Sky stream and Crofty immediately is reading the rulebook out

He did this in Singapore once as well

>Croft playing policeman again

He always seems to miss everything Hamilton does wrong though. Weird…

I didn't know Andrea Stella left Ferrari with Alonso.

lol

>Lewis thought Pacquiao had won

>"if Audi were to come in to F1, which engine would they use?"

Davison shitposting in the commentary booth

>>7488

Pacquiao did win.

>McLaren painting go-fast-stripes on their cars in a last ditch attempt to gain pace

At this point they need all they can get.

>>7491

All they need is for Susie Wolff to replace every single other driver, problem solved. They don't need to get faster, just bring everyone else down!

>>7492

Great idea, Jimbob. I'll inform Bernie right away.

>Alonso spins 360 out of a corner

>Croft: "great car control there by Alonso"

Call me old fashioned, but coming out the corner facing forwards is a mandatory requirement for something to be considered good car control.

>>7494

Was about to say that exact thing when Crofty said it, but restrained myself.

>I'm not allowed to turn it up to 11

Yeah, we know, you fucking cuck.

Mercedes are so dominant over 1 lap.

Merc and Ferrari have a good gap to the rest of the field. The race is going to be an interesting watch on who can pick off the remaining places.

FP2 in 1 bong, 8 bings.

>tfw 4 A.M. and starting to feel it

It's that weird feel where you're not tired, but you're not "snappy" so you just feel weird like you should be in bed but you can't.

Truly our fellow NEETs know this feel.

>>7501

>4am

>not the middle of your day

>>7501

only 9pm here but i know that feel well

>The dilapidated ruins of Renault

>Again with the VW rumors

Ain't happening with them doing well in WEC.

>Suzi "entertaining" corporate guests

>>7508

Sounds mighty comfy.

>Williams and Force India blocking a 5th engine based on costs

Nothing to do with the fact that they both have ultra-reliable Mercedes engines, and other teams having a 5th engine would lessen that advantage…

>Sky actually defends it

>Kimi:

>"I have no grip whatsoever"

Looks like plebbit will have a new le maymay

>>7510

>F1 once had qualifying engines that lasted only a couple of laps

We red flag now.

Lotus literally disintegrating.

engine cover kaput

>President of the United States

>Black man

Hahahaha I don't think so Tim.

Wait…

I these fucking "minion" things

>whatever the fuck they are

They're such a normie thing

>>7520

>Hating on the minions

Bet you hate on the meerkats too, you philistine.

>>7520

>I these

*I hate these

DERP

>accidentally a word

>>7521

Meerkats are awesome.

But this Minion shit is way too designed to appeal to normies with obvious as fuck senses of humor.

>reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons where Homer became smart. He went to see a movie, with jokes like "is that your final answer", and the normie audience were in stitches, while Homer thought it was dumb

>>7523

>hating on normies

>referencing the simpsons

get the fuck out of my country

>This dry banter

>tfw just thought But was Buttass on the positions board

Don't do this to me, brain.

SHOTS FIRED

>Sky conspiracy theories

SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIT

I FEEL ASLEEEEEEEEEEP

DID I MISS SOMETHING GOO?!

>>7535

Lotus literally disintegrated.

See

>>7517