It's odd isn't it. I think it mostly comes down to people seeing it as unequal. They don't understand the emotional satisfaction on your side and just see it as the man getting what he wants sexually but the woman not getting the same.

I don't think most people understand cuckolding either, it has nothing to do with gender.

They will probably compare it to something like BDSM, but in that you will still get pleasure through physicality, though it will be more teasing and physical pain. It can be hard for someone to understand the concept "I get off by not having sex."

The ideology of power dynamics in relationships is also rampant. They cannot understand that a woman wants to be led by a confident man, and not because the man is a chauvinist power junkie or the woman is a useless piece of meat.

I wouldn't sweat the whole kink-community-not-getting-it thing. For a group of people who should, logically, be super open-minded, I've not been particularly impressed with most of what I've seen in this regard.

As for women who suddenly change their tune when your boyfriend brings it up, I think there's two possibilities for why it happens:

First, that they think it's abusive or exploitative in some way. People, both men and women, tend to start out with more sympathy for women by default. Not sure how much is a learned behavior and how much is innate. But people will often react to a situation that seems one sided against a woman in a way that they would not react when the genders are reversed.

It's a double standard that treats men callously and treats women like they lack agency, but it happens.

The second is a little more self-involved. There are some women who have their ego wrapped up in their sex lives. It's not that they don't enjoy sex, but there's more to the circumstances than just whether they like and are attracted to a potential partner. The idea that they can 'take' a man from another woman, even if just for a night, is important to them. This is why they are okay with, or even specifically attracted to attached men.

So when this man who has a girlfriend tells her that the girlfriend knows and is even enthusiastic about it, it loses the allure. She isn't making him stray from his woman with her sex appeal. In fact, there's not a woman who can, because seriously - what man would ever leave a woman who wants him to fuck other women?

It's taking away power that she thought she had, which is what this was about for her to begin with.

>>2773

I guess that's probably a lot of it. It took even me a long time to properly get to grips with and I actually have the fetish!

>>2773

Even BDSM is massively understood, but not in the way I thought it would be. My boyfriend reports that after he mentions he's a dom, more than one girl has asked him "so, uh, can you have normal sex too?". It's like the culture at large sees kinky people as burned out sensation-junkies chasing the next high and unable to get off on anything that doesn't involve a basement, a gallon of lube, three trannies and a ferret. Whereas we actually enjoy vanilla sex more these days, it's just that kinky sex is something that's massively satisfying in a different way.

But yes, I think the concepts of psychological, denial-based kinks are even harder to get across. Even many kinky folks don't really get it.

>>2827

I guess kinky folks are just like any other group of folks in that respect, right? But somehow it just strikes home more. I expect vanilla people to not get it. But I guess somewhere in my brain I expect the kink community to be "my people", so their non-comprehension actually gets to me. I'm not going to whinge about that too much more though.

The thing about the implicit power dynamic does ring true. Girls are automatically protected in some ways by our culture - even the ones who don't want to be - so men end up disposable and women end up packed in cotton wool until said women step out of line in a way that isn't expected. And I do know women who measure themselves solely by what they can get away with taking from other people and getting away with it in the open, like it's some kind of fucked-up reenactment of "daddy's favourite big sister".

I guess the sudden removal of the man-stealing thrill combined with the utter confusion of a women enjoying her man sleeping around combines to make a cuckquean almost intimidating in that moment? I don't see how it would be. I guess I can't really put myself in their shoes or I'd already know this.

>>2773

Okay, maybe it's just too much /pol/ speaking here but I'm under the impression we might be under attack by cultural marxists because of our traditionalist and "patriarchal" connotations.

>>2800

>it has nothing to do with gender.

I don't really judge cuckholding but I understand it has too much impact on male's pride and that it might actually be used as a propaganda tool against conservative values maybe even against the White race itself if /pol/ is right.

>>2828

>to make a cuckquean almost intimidating in that moment?

I don't think it's about being intimidating as much as it just removes the interest. Since the man's partner is complicit, there's no ego boost to knowing that she made him stray.

It could also be that this says something about the man's character and that she's intimidated by men who have power in their own lives, but it may be reading too much into it.

>>2859

That does make sense. It's just that the thing that was attracting her isn't there anymore.

My boyfriend looks at it with typical optimism: He doesn't want to sleep with a girl whose only attraction to him is that he'll cheat on his girlfriend, so by removing her attraction she's actually doing him a favour.

>>2772

> Some kinky guys do seem to understand but others seem to think it's some kind of elaborate bullshit test, that it's actually an open relationship and I'll jump on their cock if they're persistent enough.

The worst. The absolute worst. The absolute worst experience I've ever had with a guy like this is when I outright told him "I have no intentions of cheating on my boyfriend" and he refused to accept this and leave.

>>2899

They ruin it. Couple of guys like that happened across my own girl and now she doesn't want to touch the local kink community with a bargepole anymore.

>>2827

>So when this man who has a girlfriend tells her that the girlfriend knows and is even enthusiastic about it, it loses the allure.

There's also the possibility that they might be insecure at the idea of you and your boyfriend discussing her, discussing the sex, her being fetishized by another woman, etc.

Much like I imagine some bulls would be reticent to knowingly fuck a male cuck's girlfriend, for example being afraid that the cuck was videotaping the encounter, hiding in a closet somewhere, asking how big the bull's cock was afterwards, etc. And uncomfortable with the gay connotation that a man was getting pleasure from him or that he was being fetishized by another man.

I can see how a woman unfamiliar with the concept of cuckqueaning might be creeped out by it in a similar way at first.

wew this is some roleplaying

>>2859

Women are inherently narcissistic. The reason why rape fantasies are common with women is not that they find the idea of rape to be attracted, it's because they fantasize about being SO desirable that a man simply cannot resist the urge to have her then and there, no matter what.

Similarly, this is why women are attracted to 'taken' men and constantly try to poach them from other women: the man himself isn't attractive, they just want to be so desirable that a man is willing to abandon another women for her.

It's an ego trip, and by stating that she is NOT, in fact, so sexy that a man is willing to cheat to have her, but he is simply hooking up with another girl and is still dedicated to 'his' girl, who is ok with him having sex with other women, you kill any attraction they had to the affair in the first place.

It's all about them, basically.

>to be strangely isolating?

Not really. I live in the UK, in couple of decades Sharia will be the standing law.

>>2772

>My boyfriend has told me that he sometimes strikes out the moment girls find out he's not cheating on me and he's not in a fully open relationship. They freak out and start being scared even though they might have been flirty and touchy a moment before that.

Yeah but you can't really blame them, I think even some guys who play the role of bulls in cuckolding relationships probably have a voice in the back of their head going "Go away! This is a trap so some psycho murder-couple can kill you!". I can only imagine what goes through the mind of a potential vixen when the man she's interested in tells her about the quean, there's already the stereotype of a ridiculously jealous girlfriend who'll go nuts for a girl looking at her partner, plus while great strides have been made in the last couple of years cuckqueaning is not nearly as close to the mainstream as cuckolding is, so they often think it's simply too weird.

>People accept open relationships and they seem to understand male subs who get cucked just fine.

because unlike cuckqueaning those kinds of arrangements get a spotlight, from porn sites, erotica literature, hell even a lot of normie TV shows and commercials if you look close enough, so the crowd is more dissensitized to 'em and sympathizes with the idea more easily

>>12710

start pumping out babies/getting your missus preggers, anon

>>12711

brb

sharpening my assault spoons

>>12711

>, I think even some guys who play the role of bulls in cuckolding relationships probably have a voice in the back of their head going "Go away! This is a trap so some psycho murder-couple can kill you!".

That does not make any evolutionary sense. It's an obvious product of feminist brainwashing.

>>2772

>Do any other cuckqueans find this fetish to be strangely isolating?

Yes but people suck so it's a good thing. I'd rather fantasize about being cucked by cute and innocent 2d girls than having to deal with with real people, especially other women.

>>20048

Something my boyfriend does for us.

>>2772

I have to wonder how exactly a cuckquean event would work out. Like, drawing straws to see who has to fuck the others boyfriends?

>>20501

>drawing straws to see who has to fuck the others boyfriends?

Sounds more like a swinger's orgy.

A quean event would probably work best as a social meetup before hitting the local scene in a good old fashioned fox hunt.