No.258 [Last50 Posts]
Femanons of /cuckquean/, have you ever considered the possibility of being cucked in the context of already being dominated? For example, being enslaved in a long-term BDSM relationship and later it becomes clear that your boyfriend is still playing the field? Maybe even eventually bringing his conquests home and fucking them in plainly audible distance while you, gagged and in chains in the next room over, can do nothing but listen? Or maybe you're locked in chastity but are forced to serve as a sex toy, without reward, in their lovemaking?
Another thought I've had is a long-term loving, committed girlfriend being enslaved and brought into a preexisting slave harem of her owner's previous (current!) long-term loving, committed girlfriends, each of them vying for attention over the others.
I've only recently become aware that Femanons fantasize about this kind of thing. Regale me with fantasies; I'll try to reciprocate from the other half of the equation.
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No.261
>>258I see cuckqueaning as a kind of mental and emotional BDSM. Exactly which parts of the acronym are involved and how depends on the individual cuckquean, but the rate of cuckqueans already in BDSM relationships is quite high.
I won't go on though, since that's for said cuckqueans to detail for themselves.
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No.266
>>258Your first example of discovering ones boyfriend is playing the field while enslaving you would actually fall under cheating, not cuckqueaning. Whether one likes the idea after discovering it doesn't forgive that it was cheating to begin with.
I am in a Pet/Master relationship while also being a cuckquean so of course BDSM tends to creep into things. I can't really regale examples though since most of my fantasies are focused almost solely on what my partner and randomgirl are doing versus the position I am in.
I enjoyed the time I acted as an "assistant" of sorts while my boyfriend had sex with another girl. Getting towels or water or whatever they needed during the session (it went for awhile) while not participating at all and more or less being totally ignored. Not sure if that counts at all though since it is pretty vanilla.
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No.270
>>266I love that acting as servant to your boyfriend and his lover of the moment counts as vanilla. I see it as being incredibly subby, but scales differ…
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No.326
>>266>Not sure if that counts at all though since it is pretty vanilla.Well at least you acted on it. I'm under the impression that most posters here are within the fantasizing only or seriously considering phases.
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No.344
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No.354
>>270I guess it just felt natural enough that it registered as vanilla.
>>326Everyone has to start somewhere I guess, hopefully some more people on the board end up with actual experience (or ones with experience show up) as I'd love another active cuckquean to speak to.
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No.838
So how many of those in cuckquean relationships here are also in BDSM relationships? I am; we're 24/7 Master/sub. I'd be interested to know if
>>261 's theory is correct.
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No.844
>>838I and my quean are in a 24/7 TPE. We started with MFFs and eventually went to a more cuckquean-style relationship with other women.
A BDSM relationship is not necessary for cuckqueaning but it makes it much easier because of the level of trust that is (hopefully/usually) already present.
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No.845
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
I am not religious myself but I definitely see why more people are starting to practise domestic discipline.
There are obviously people complaining about it and projecting their problems onto others. Like this video of a women who suffered abuse and therefore says all domestic discipline is unhealthy and so on. There was a much more annoying video I was going to post but the user seems to have deleted it.
And look at this stupid nonsense
https://archive.today/yrnAhI don't see why they have such hostility to women choosing to submit. Oh no their husband gets off on dominating them! So? That is a good thing surely. I am sick of hearing that evil men are somehow manipulating women. It's so condescending.
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No.853
>>845I had to laugh at that article, even though I didn't get past the headline.
>"I Just Discovered Christian Domestic Discipline and It Makes Me Very Uncomfortable">It Makes Me Very UncomfortableAnti-sex league SocJus thinking in a nutshell, right there.
IIRC, Domestic Discipline is just Taken In Hand with the overt BDSM elements stripped away and the serial numbers filed off. Which is funny because Taken In Hand was itself an attempt to pick out certain 24/7 & TPE BDSM elements and apply them to an otherwise vanilla domestic relationship. I had no idea DD had turned into a Christian subculture thing, but given the non-existent standards of XOJane/Jezebel/whatever the fuck is popular pop-feminism nowadays I'm more willing to believe that the author threw that element in as clickbait rather than it actually being the case. Can anyone enlighten me?
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No.856
>>845>>853Actually, now that I read the article itself I notice that the author isn't so much hostile to DD as she is surprised to find women happily consenting to DD. The article's written in that lazy semi-stream-of-conscious style so popular among the chatty ladyblogs where it's used to cover up the fact that the article's half-baked and nothing more than the result of doing some shallow reading.
The constant attempts to frame it as an abusive relationship dynamic rankle, though. The author simply can't stop herself framing everything as a node in some larger, society-wide power struggle. The ironic part? That same obsessive framing occurs with disturbing similarity among radical Christians who subscribe to the doctrine of Spiritual Warfare, where everything has to be carefully weighed as a possible covert attack from the Great Enemy. Something to chew over.
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No.862
Lately I've been indulgent and relaxed my cuckquean's no-masturbation rule when I'm out fucking another girl, but with a few conditions. First, she has to be buttplugged while she's doing it. Second, she's only allowed to stimulate her pussy by humping things. No hands, no toys. Third, she's allowed a maximum of one clitoral or vaginal orgasm per cucking so she has to make it count. (Anally induced orgasms are unlimited.)
It's working quite well. She seems to enjoy the restrictions a lot and it's advancing her anal training at the same time.
(The irony is that she herself asked for the no-masturbation rule to be made in the first place.)
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No.865
>>862I have similar rules for my quean that are always in play. cucking or not. She can masturbate as much as she wants. She can only cum when I say and she can only cum when there is something in her ass, which is typically me. This has turned out to work very well for us. I also do a count down before letting her cum which gives her a chance to psychologically ratchet things up before she pops.
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No.872
>>865These are good rules. Do you allow her a ration of orgasms when you're cucking her elsewhere or does she just have to edge until you return?
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No.876
>>872I try not to mico-manage the relationship. Lately, when she's when I'm playing with another girl, she'll be playing some game on her XBox or ChromeBook but still available to get us drinks or for cleanup. I may start making her play her hentai games which get her riled up.
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No.912
I'm in a D/s cucking relationship with my ex-boyfriend. We were together for four years and had a bdsm dynamic through that entire thing but now that we're broken up it's gotten much more intense. For us it's much more about the humiliation/degradation element. He tells me about how many girls he's seeing and domming now that I'm out of the picture and that I'm at the very bottom. We've talked about me sending him money to use to take them out on dates and buying him sex toys to use with them. He had three of them make an identical sex video and sent me some screenshots (without any identifying features, he's good about privacy). He tells me how I ruined any chance of us ever getting back together as boyfriend and girlfriend and that I'll never feel his cock in my cunt again but that someday i can watch it happen with somebody else if I'm lucky. And a million other things.
It's emotionally really intense but i am having the best orgasms of my life.
Please feel free to ask me any questions.
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No.913
>>912You mention money, and that's the first time ever I've heard of findom working in that direction. Well, outside of the pimp/ho lifestyle, anyhow.
Do you have a better job than him?
How much do you see yourself giving up, financially, to continue this sort of interaction?
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No.1086
Month old thread rez yay
>>912
I've been in a similar situation for some time, except she doesn't give me money and until recently I was still fucking her reasonably often. It's nice to see someone else with the "cucking an ex" dynamic here though.
Specifically, when we were officially together we were very much into domination and submission, and some relatively light bondage. In general our rule was that I could do whatever I wanted to her as long as I had the balls to make her. It definitely played into the cuckqueaning dynamic later on. It's the kind of thing, common with us, that she would never explicitly agree to, but really got turned on by.
I've tied her up in an adjoining room and made her listen to me have sex with a new friend, made her listen over the phone, made her wash the clothes and sheets from a romp the night before, and so on. She has a strange aversion to masturbation which makes the whole thing more delicious.
Now I live in another state, so I'm limited to things very much along the lines of
> He tells me how I ruined any chance of us ever getting back together as boyfriend and girlfriend and that I'll never feel his cock in my cunt again but that someday i can watch it happen with somebody else if I'm lucky. And a million other things.
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No.1088
>>912
Perfect. Love financial domination. I prefer taken women though who would normally be using that money for their husband or family. I used to do it online a lot. It sustained me as a NEET for over a year.
I had one make videos begging me to accept her money while she degraded herself and insulted her family. She got off on extreme blackmail. She loved that I was a lazy, selfish pervert who only used her for money. Nothing has come close to that one since.
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No.1089
>>1088
>I had one make videos begging me to accept her money while she degraded herself and insulted her family. She got off on extreme blackmail. She loved that I was a lazy, selfish pervert who only used her for money.
I have the strangest boner right now. How did you find these women? What kind of thing do they look for in a financial domination relationship, anyway?
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No.1105
>>1089
They are hard to find. Most women are just casually into submission and don't want the deep soul crushing humiliation I enjoy giving.
Look on collarspace and fetlife.
I'll talk to you more about it if you want:
sirlambdadelta@cyber-wizard.com
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No.1163
>>912
>We've talked about me sending him money to use to take them out on dates and buying him sex toys to use with them.
Oh goodness. New fetish acquired!
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No.1467
Have any of you ever been put away?
I have this fantasy of a cuck that's the perfect housewife bordering on slave attending to her boyfriend's every need. She cooks, she cleans, handles all his affairs, and all of the above for his fling of the moment as well. But when it's time for sex, she's tied up, gagged, maybe caged, and left in the bedroom closet to listen to her man have a good time.
Maybe add chastity play, so she can't masturbate to it during or after.
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No.1468
>>258
First off I would just like to say that I love this board even though I've only been lurking for a very short while. Second off I'm not a femanon but my gf discovered that she was a cuckquean through our shared love of BDSM. She was always really into being dominated and used as a glorified sex toy by me and eventually she just came to the conclusion that this was the natural next step for our relationship. At the time we didn't even know that there was a specific term for this type of fetish, by the way I would like to thank /monster/ for pointing me in this direction, but now that we have a name for this and that we know other people out there enjoy this as well has just made things wonderful for both of us. We love combining bondage and cuckqueaning together: she absolutely loves being unable to move or say anything as she watches me fuck another woman and when we're done she eagerly eats my cum out of the vixen's pussy. Usually after cucking her I will reward her by whipping her ass and fucking her hard.
Sorry for my newfagness, and also sorry if I ended up butting into a conversation I wasn't welcomed to. I just really love this board so far and want to keep it alive and possibly contribute to it.
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No.1518
>>1467
I get put on a seat or in the corner nearby, if I'm really lucky! I don't masturbate while I watch, even though I'm not in chastity.
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No.1519
>>1468
We love you too, Anon.
It's good to hear that our friendship with /monster/ continues.
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No.2596
Questions for 'queans, some of which clear faptalk, others are genuine curiosity:
What's the heaviest bondage you've ever been put in? Were you being punished? Was it just because your dom likes it? Do you try to resist (even playfully), or accept it? Have you ever been presented as a toy for use in the cucking itself?
How would you feel about being completely restrained, forced/allowed to watch, then made to clean her off of him and him out of her with your tongue, and left like a piece of furniture while they move on to have the rest of their evening together?
The only person I know personally who is into the most extreme fetishes gives rationales for why they make her feel good that line up perfectly with many of the reasons people here cite for being a cuckquean. Do any of you have other fetishes that end in or center around extreme self-effacement, depreciation, or exploitation, such as vore/snuff/being used as livestock, furniture/decorations, or similarly dehumanizing roles?
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No.2606
>>2596
>What's the heaviest bondage you've ever been put in?
Full-body rope, involving a chest harness with my arms bound behind my back, my legs in a forced cross and my chest lashed to my ankles to put me in a forced bow with my wrists forcefully raised behind me.
>Were you being punished? Was it just because your dom likes it?
No. Yes.
>Do you try to resist (even playfully), or accept it?
I accepted it. Not that it would have done me much good to struggle.
>Have you ever been presented as a toy for use in the cucking itself?
Does being under the vixen and watching while periodically cleaning my master's cock off count? No, it doesn't. I didn't feel like a toy and I wasn't presented that way.
>How would you feel about being completely restrained, forced/allowed to watch, then made to clean her off of him and him out of her with your tongue, and left like a piece of furniture while they move on to have the rest of their evening together?
I don't like being forcefully abandoned. I love being an observer on the sidelines but being deliberately treated with contempt as part of the play itself doesn't tickle my fancy at all.
>The only person I know personally who is into the most extreme fetishes gives rationales for why they make her feel good that line up perfectly with many of the reasons people here cite for being a cuckquean. Do any of you have other fetishes that end in or center around extreme self-effacement, depreciation, or exploitation, such as vore/snuff/being used as livestock, furniture/decorations, or similarly dehumanizing roles?
I love being used as an onahole from time to time but deprecation, livestock and other more extreme dehumanisation either doesn't do anything for me or turns me off.
I'm what seems to be referred to as a compersive cuckquean rather than a humiliation type. The things you describe often sit side-by-side with the humiliation type cuckqueaning drive.
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No.2607
>>844
>A BDSM relationship is not necessary for cuckqueaning but it makes it much easier because of the level of trust that is (hopefully/usually) already present.
This. I've noticed that BDSM relationships that make it into the "long-term" category tend to be really strong and resilient because there's such a strong level of trust and openness involved as a prerequisite to the BDSM.
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No.2610
>>1519
>It's good to hear that our friendship with /monster/ continues.
kek. /monster/ hates us if they even think about us at all. We're a threat to happy monogamy with their monster waifus. Just look at the hate that the bicorn (the monstergirl cuckquean) gets with shrieks of HAREMS A SHIT and MORE THAN ONE WAIFU WILL DESTROY LAIFU and so on.
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No.2612
>>2610
Uh, I recognize this doesn't hold true for all of /monster/, but I love both monster waifus and cucking.
My only problem with the bicorn is the simple fact that horse-pussy is not JUSTICE.
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No.2616
>>2612
>this doesn't hold true for all of /monster/, but I love both monster waifus and cucking
Same here, anon. I'm one of the few people that will defend cuckqueans on /monster/ but it's pretty hard going. It's weird, I remember monstergirls and cuckqueaning used to go hand in hand but it doesn't really seem to be the case anymore. Actually now that I really think about it cuckqueaning hate and one waifu4lyfufagging started getting more apparent roughly around the same time Femdomfags started getting more vocal.
I'm pretty sure the Maledom part of /monster/, like me, still absolutely adores the 'queans. But the betamax femdom side can't stand the idea of being outside of a completely monogamous relationship and fall easily to oneitis waifuism.
But this is just a theory of mines so take it with some salt.
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No.2617
>>2616
>Same here, anon. I'm one of the few people that will defend cuckqueans on /monster/ but it's pretty hard going. It's weird, I remember monstergirls and cuckqueaning used to go hand in hand but it doesn't really seem to be the case anymore.
Yeah, it's strange. I also noticed that there's a lot of focus on the "cheating" option of the bicorn's transformation to the complete exclusion of the far more likely "takes a non-virgin husband", and that the harem the bicorn finds for her husband is always presented as non-consensual cheating-type cucking. Maybe part of it's down to just not understanding the compersive cuckqueaning dynamic but c'mon, it's all right there in the MGE entry. Doesn't even have to be a maledom thing, since it says that a bicorn will gently plant and grow her husband's polygynous desires.
Sweet loving story about a bicorn carefully selecting and cementing her husband's harem never ever. ;_;
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No.2618
>>2617
>Maybe part of it's down to just not understanding the compersive cuckqueaning dynamic
That seems very likely from what I've seen. Add that in with the fact that most users here(as in on 8chan in general) can't seem to distinguish the difference between male cuckolds and cuckqueans and you have yourself a recipe for disaster.
>Sweet loving story about a bicorn carefully selecting and cementing her husband's harem never ever
Maybe one day, anon, maybe one day. If that day comes I'm not sure if it'll be on here or on /monster/ but it'll be a glorious day nonetheless.
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No.2620
>>2616
>monstergirls and cuckqueaning used to go hand in hand
That only applies if harems are equated with cuckqueaning.
I mean, plenty of people like Monster Musume, but view Mero as one of the worst girls, if not the worst.
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No.2622
I've noticed among beta males a curious tendency towards over-romanticizing relationships. All this One True Waifu nonsense seems to stem from their basic inexperience in relationships.
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No.2641
>>2622
Looking at it this way is pretty ass-backwards. Ideally you wouldn't need to experience the fact that you fall in and out of love and go through partners as a matter of fact, ideally you'd find an as-close-as-possible to perfect partner and just stick with them for the rest of your life.
Of course, this does not translate to real life, since the chance of this happening is incredibly small, but when you're already in the realm of fiction and provided an enormous number of "partners" to pick from that have fairly stable personalities, there's no reason not to stick with it. With that said, I'm fairly confident that a harem can work as long as it only contains one male and the participants are decently intelligent people, but it also very much depends on the exact circumstances.
There's another, completely unrelated reason for it, and that is that people who change waifus often, or have many of them, are typically newfags straight outta /v/ who think that "waifu" stands for "character I like".
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No.2643
>>2641
I disagree. Considering that the human brain finishes developing long after puberty (early 20's), your personality can change drastically. This means that two people can start out perfect for each other and then grow radically different. Experimentation in relationships is perfectly fine and normal.
But it seems that those men without lots of relationship experience don't recognize this, and instead believe your First should be your Only.
Also, perhaps I wasn't clear. Preferring or striving for a One True Waifu is fine. What is not fine is placing women on a pedestal and believing that they should be perfect angels. That's how you wind up typing '3dpd' in all caps. People tend to idealize those things they're ignorant of, and betamax men are woefully ignorant of how women really act and think.
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No.2645
>>2643
I've married the perfect woman for me.
I'm on the fourth, now.
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No.2647
>>2643
>This means that two people can start out perfect for each other and then grow radically different
I was accounting for that, it was simply a hypothetical
>experimentation … is normal
Indeed, I said so as well
>placing women on a pedestal and believing that they should be perfect angels
3DPD is a general statement about how most women are shit, and it is true. Not because women are inherently shit, but because most people are shit.
The people you're talking about are already largely outside the dating pool anyway, in that they are people most women would refuse to date, or even if not that, they're just incapable of making a move on any of them. Even if we assume that 3DPD is incorrect, it doesn't make a huge difference.
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No.2648
>>2643
that was not correct but not wrong either. practically, There are no people that can start out perfect for each other. they start out fits to each other, and grow radically different or perfectly the same
from your way of talking you implies as if your first relationship will not work, while there are couples who married and stay together without problem despite being each other's first. of course you can just said you didnt.
i am not trying to be mean. i have some self study towards relationship. when people grow, they didnt grow in just 1 aspect in 1 way, humans are complicated. some grows too apart, some grows even closer
as for the First should be your only. i think it is possible if both party prioritize each other and help each other honestfully (of course its deeper than that, but i am not trying to be moremouthful than i already am). however with how the society works now, its almost impossible. why? because nowadays society make a lot of us cant even prioritize ourselves over job, or achievement and society itself, how can we prioritize others?.
btw actually alphas and betas male are just myth,for your information in animal life Alpha males usually are the one who got cheated on by the females. while beta is the other way around. in human life, wether you are a beta or an alpha you can get any woman, as long as the woman is interest in you. and you can still get cheated on
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No.2649
>>2643
that was not correct but not wrong either. practically, There are no people that can start out perfect for each other. they start out fits to each other, and grow radically different or perfectly the same
from your way of talking you implies as if your first relationship will not work, while there are couples who married and stay together without problem despite being each other's first. of course you can just said you didnt. experimentation is normal but its not fine either, dont simply date someone just because you think she is cute…though i can understand people who prefer to do this to understand the kind of person they really want
i am not trying to be mean. i have some self study towards relationship. when people grow, they didnt grow in just 1 aspect in 1 way, humans are complicated. some grows too apart, some grows even closer
as for the First should be your only. i think it is possible if both party prioritize each other and help each other honestfully (of course its deeper than that, but i am not trying to be moremouthful than i already am). however with how the society works now, its almost impossible. why? because nowadays society make a lot of us cant even prioritize ourselves over job, or achievement and society itself, how can we prioritize others?.
btw actually alphas and betas male are just myth,for your information in animal life Alpha males usually are the one who got cheated on by the females. while beta is the other way around. in human life, wether you are a beta or an alpha you can get any woman, as long as the woman is interest in you. and you can still get cheated on
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No.3644
Reminder that good girls always obey, even if it means watching Master enjoy someone better than you.
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No.3780
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No.3784
>>3780
>it's a happily-married bicorn story
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No.3785
>>3784
>…which eventually degrades the MC being the bull for cuckolding others in increasingly more obviously fetishy ways
>including sections from the male cuckolds' POV
I am pretty upset. It started off so wonderfully and now… this.
CAPTCHA: "danuis". Yes, CAPTCHA, we've both been had.
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No.3786
>>3785
Yes, it goes downhill, but I couldn't even find a significant bicorn story on http://monstergirlunlimited.net/ so hopefully it spawns better fics by inspiration.
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No.3797
>>3786
The worst part is that it's actually pretty good and I cared enough about the characters to keep reading even through events like the MC literally being introduced to a child he sired while being lent another man's lover and the other man volunteering to raise said child.
I didn't mind being in the MC's head most of the time even though it's not him I identify with but the actual cuckqueaning was never written from the bicorn wife's point of view either, which made it stranger and worse when I was suddenly locked into the male cucks' heads during the later parts of the story.
It left me feeling a little disoriented and sick. If this is how normal girls feel when they hear any talk of cuckqueaning, no wonder it's such a niche fetish.
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No.11491
>>2617
<giving a goddamned fuck about 2D degeneracy
ABSOLUTELY FUCKING HARAM
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No.13623
Not sure if relevant to this thread but made me think of you guys
http://motherless.com/8C1A07A
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No.13627
>>13623
>made me think of you guys
Why? There’s no cuckqueaning in that kidnap and prisoner fantasy.
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No.13916
>>13627
>after she's used up and they stop with her and and they take another girl that she looks after and welcomes to the family
Have you read half of the fantasies on this board? minus the kidnapping and violence it's pretty similar to the more maternal fantasies on here.
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No.13929
>>13916
It does have cuckquean elements because she talks about being the favourite girl and then later replaced in that role by another. However all the cigarette burning and bone breaking stuff is going way too far. Videos like that make it seem like only crazy people are into this stuff.
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No.15768
Have any ladies ever tried doing barbell squats while wearing a butt plug? It's a meme on /fit/ that the plug actually improves your form. I'm certainly not going to do it, but then I remembered female sex slaves probably do it. So how is it?
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